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1819's Bryan Dawson Guest Host - Jeff Poor Show - Tuesday 8-13-24
[MUSIC PLAYING] From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Poor Show. I don't think I've done it this way. No, it ain't. All right. Welcome to the Jeff Poor Show. As you can tell by my amazing voice, I'm not Jeff Poor. Not that his voice isn't amazing. But he is on his last day of vacation, and I am rounding out the long list of guest hosts. I'm Brian Dawson. I'm CEO of 1819 News, a host of the 1819 News podcast. And today, the host of the Jeff Poor Show. So we got a great show for you guys today. I'm bringing on Brian Lanhollihan. He's going to be my first guest. He is the RNC's, the chairman of the RNC Youth Advisory Council. We'll be talking to Ernie Yarbrough at the 10 o'clock hour. He's a state representative from North Alabama. He's reintroducing the Lake and Riley Act. And at 11, we're bringing on state auditor Andrew Sorel. We're going to talk about the election, maybe some upcoming stuff he expects in the next session. Some other topics we'll dive into is kind of the shift towards populism that we're seeing in the Republican Party and what that means for the future of Alabama. The killing of our culture and the fall of country music. If we have time for that, that's always a fun one. And want to talk a little bit more about the Auburn City school teacher that was grooming children through a podcast and his resigning after we published the story. And I think there's more to that story I want to dive into if we have time. So we've got a great show for you guys. And I'm just going to go ahead and bring on my first guest, Brian Hollihan. Brian, how are you doing today? Brian, good morning. It's great to be back with you. Excited for the show. It's going to be a fun hour. Yeah, man. So Brian and Brian, not confusing at all. But Brian and I, we actually just did a podcast. It was really, really good, had a ton of fun. And wanted to just bring basically the contents of that podcast to the radio listeners here in lower Alabama. And so Brian, as I said, is the chairman of the RNC Youth Advisory Council. And so he's really been in media, I think, since he was like 11 years old. And growing his media career, he's now 18. And he's recently wrote a book that I'm going to have him talk a little bit about as well. And I'm trying to think of the Brian Hollihan shows "Make it a comeback." Is that right? Yes, sir. All right. Well, there you go. So Brian, if you want, just open up. Tell us a little bit about yourself. Tell us about your book and kind of where that came from and why you felt like you needed to write it. Yeah, absolutely. It's an honor to be back talking to lower Alabama. I was in North Carolina this past weekend at a leadership conference, speaking there. And I told somebody that I would be traveling to LA for a book signed in it a few weeks. And they said, oh, bless your heart. Los Angeles is terrible. And I said, no, no, no, no. My LA is lower Alabama. And it's a lot better. And we'd call this California. So this is really cool and excited to do this. The book really came from seven years of conversation. You've kind of seen my journey from the age of 11 to where I am now at 18 years old. Seven years of talking to the American people, but more importantly, listening to them. And so really, where this journey came from, I get interested in politics, age of 11, the 2016 election, started writing opinion columns, started hosting a podcast, started interviewing some of the top political figures. And eventually, just kind of got frustrated, got fed up around the time of the 2022 midterms. And that's around the time you and I met and started having these conversations because I really thought that there was an issue with our party. I recognized that the Republican Party wasn't listening to my generation. There was zero youth outreach on the RNC side. And I founded the RNC's inaugural Youth Advisory Council, and I'm working with President Trump and his campaign team to get him elected this November. So really cool to have Alabama represented on the national stage and really cool to have a first-time voters represented. So it's just an honor to get to do it. Absolutely. Well, I think you're doing a great job. You've certainly in your seven years have developed and a pretty great media talent. I actually got to watch you speak up in Coleman recently, too. I think you did a great job there. So yeah, it's always impressive to see a young person that we talked about on the podcast. I'm about to be 40, which makes me feel old when I say it out loud. But my generation looked at your generation, and we always thought a bunch of liberal snowflakes. That was always the thing. But what I see and sense happening is actually-- you guys are getting radicalized. When you see those memes on Twitter with the red eyes, with the light flashing out of them, that's your generation that's kind of happening. They've watched the hijacking of the presidency with a president who's basically licking ice cream and crapping his pants. And it's like, OK, maybe we should care a little bit more about politics if this is the direction things are going. And you've been, since the beginning, tell me about what you see the trend in your generation kind of going from what I think was accurate as liberal snowflakes to all of a sudden super-based Chad kings that are like holding up the flag in Raleigh, North Carolina, or Chapel Hill, excuse me. Yeah, no, I will say both of us are at the convention together in Milwaukee a few weeks ago. And probably one of the highlights was getting a catch up with those UNC frat guys that held up the flag. They ended up being in one of the suites that I was sitting in one of the nights that I was talking to them. And it was such a cool experience because you're exactly right. Seeing my generation be radicalized to become conservative at the historic-- I mean, our Republican presidential candidate has not won the youth vote since 2003. And that's sad. That shows the Democrats believe they had this monopoly on my generation for decades now. And we're pushing back against that. And we're seeing that in this election. And I think two really important things you touched on them are why we're seeing my generation be radicalized. The first one's COVID. I really think COVID showed my generation how bad big government was at its worst. COVID locked my generation out of school for a year and a half. That was a middle school at the time. And there's some really pivotal years of education that I'm still trying to catch up for. COVID told me that I was an evil, horrible human being. If I walked outside without a mask, or if I went and visited grandma for Thanksgiving dinner, we really saw how bad it was when you give government full control of your life. And we want to fight back against that. So the biggest thing I hear when we travel to college campuses is people coming up to me afterwards. And I know you're hearing the same thing, saying, listen, I disagree with the personality of Donald Trump, or I disagree with some of the policies of the Republican Party, but I'm anti-big government. And you're the party supporting that. And the Democrats only want to grow big governments. So with that, you said there was a couple things. I think COVID was absolutely-- there was recently Joe Rogan, his stand up on Netflix. It was so funny. I just saw a little clip that Brandon Tatum did on his show, where Joe Rogan in his stand up says, before COVID, I would have told you that vaccines were the safest and greatest invention in the history. And he goes, after COVID, I'm not even sure we landed on the moon. Michelle Obama might have a penis. I don't know what's going on, right? And obviously, he was being hyperbolic to make the point that it shook everyone's-- we blindly trust institutions. And I think that's a good thing for us to do in a good society when institutions can be trust. I think that's how we're wired. That's how society was built. But when those institutions have been hijacked by people with malicious intent, and that became abundantly clear through COVID, it woke us all up. What other things do you think have turned your generation into far right extremists? [LAUGHTER] There's a good word. We're domestic terrorist-supporting the FBI. Yeah. No, I'm going to bring him out today. There you go. I love it. I think a big thing was the 2020 election. I mean, I remember coming back to school. Obviously, I was covering the election. It was just traveling a lot on the campaign trail. I remember the days after the election being handed by the media to Joe Biden before we even had boats counted, coming back to school in Alabama. And I mean, people walk up to me and they're like, how in the world did this happen in America? This is something you expected, but in a republic. How in the world did this happen? And I think that those two things happen in the same year, COVID in the election really showed us, OK, maybe the people in their temple had on aren't so crazy. Like you said, Joe, I can call on those things. Maybe those could be true. Maybe the government's lying to us. But again, my generation has just grown up in a world post 9/11 where we think the government is here to protect us, they're here to save us, go into TSA as normal, these things that they're doing, you know, to spawn us or normal. This is here because we're all on the same team. And you saw those two things happen, of them locking us in our house and arresting us, you know, when we left our house and then literally still in an election blatantly in front of the American people while we were sleeping that night. I think a lot of us were like, OK, maybe the government isn't our best friend. Reagan was right when he said that, you know, the scariest words in the English language are, I'm from the government and I'm here to help. And when I share that, you know, a lot of people laugh, but it's true. I mean, it's genuinely true, Brian. And it's a terrifying thing to think about. Yeah. So one of the major conversations that you and I always have whenever we get together is the decentralization of mass media. And I went back and listed our podcast. I think I said that word like 17 times in the podcast, decentralization asked me. But it is, I try and I think people learn through repetition and I want people to continue to hear, continue to hear, continue to hear, because, you know, it used to be, and I will say, as I'm sitting here at an independently owned FM news talk station in Lower Alabama, this is a bulwark that has been here, OK, telling the truth. It's an independently owned news talk radio station where you can get the truth and there's no pressure on Sean or Jeff or anybody here to do anything but tell the truth. But other than that, like, when you're talking about TV news and where tons and tons, millions and millions and millions, people got their news, it was ABC, CBS, NBC, then they had Fox News CNN when cable news networks came in. And even on the radio front, I've done business with Cumulus and I Heart, you know, my entire career, great, whatever. But they still have corporate interests that aren't necessarily the peoples. And so you were very limited in where you could get your information from. And with the rise of podcasting and then Elon Musk buying Twitter, that is completely shaken up. You know, that traditional-- you can only get your-- because if you think about, like, a source of water, there's only three channels of water that you have to damn up. And in order to be able to control the water, that's like the flow of information. And if all you needed to do was stop ABC, CBS, and NBC, well, that was easy to do. But now all of a sudden, there's millions of podcasters out there with pretty large audiences. That changes the game, and specifically, when you have Elon Musk buying Twitter and renaming it X, and really just letting information flow, this is completely new going into 2024. What do you think the effect of that will be? Yeah, well, I think there's two perfect examples of this. The first one being this coronation we saw of Kamala Harris just a few weeks ago. We saw literally, in a matter of two hours, are win the nomination, and the media go from-- they both need to leave the ticket. She's not confident in the service president. This was a mistake that he picked her as VP. They're in the situation. They have the Kamala problem. I think I'm calling it, too. She's the greatest thing from George Washington. We all need to praise her. Every Democrat surrounded around her. But they circle the wagons, and like us. And I thought that was a pretty powerful example of how the media is getting their talking point to the DNC. I mean, they just snap their finger, and you could tell when they came back from a commercial break, everything was different. The other example of this is something that you and I just talked about. And it was Elon buying Twitter. And I posed the question to what world would we live in today at Elon Hatton bought Twitter? We kind of take it for granted. And I think another perfect example is the night Trump got shot. I was packing to fly to Milwaukee for the convention. When it happened, I found out through a Twitter notification that Trump had gotten shot. And I happened to look up to the TV that was on mute at the time. I thought I was packing and saw his motorcade barreling away and was like, oh, that can't be good. You know, of course you're like, oh, maybe it's not true, but obviously it was true. And I really think that we would have seen-- you remember those headlines that CNN put out immediately in minutes after we very clearly saw him get shot in blood coming from his head, that he tripped on Sage and fell. So that's what we would have been told at the time. We wouldn't have had Twitter to see these videos that would have gotten sent to their feed-on, wasn't in charge, to see what had really happened. So I think that really shows how powerful it is. And this election cycles specifically that you all must box with it. Yeah, it's hard to fathom. Once Twitter files came out after he bought it, it showed how influential Twitter and the other social media groups in big tech was in hijacking the election for Biden, I'll say, or at least introducing tons of chicanery into the process. Well, I mean, on that note, I'm trying to think-- let's go ahead and hit a break, and we'll come back, and we'll continue to dive into that conversation of what the decentralization mass media means for the 2024 election and what it means for us and our generation and yours as well. Sounds good. Looking forward to it. All right. Apparently, I thought I had a floating break here, and I got to go all the way up to 30. So we can keep going. All right. I'm learning the ropes here, guys. I've only been in radio for nine years, but I've not been a host. So I'm out selling ads and trying to do the marketing and stuff like that and bumping up against it. So here we are. There's the break. We will be back. This is a Jeff Horseshoe. [MUSIC PLAYING] All right. Welcome back to the Jeff Horseshoe. I am Brian Dawson. I am not Jeff Boor, and I am here figuring out how to do radio, despite a somewhat illustrious career in the radio field, figuring out the actual technical side of being behind a microphone. So we're getting that done. And listening to that bumper music, I already like Jeff, but if he picked up music, I like him a little bit more. He has great bumper music. So we'll be bringing back on, I guess, Brian on Holly Hand. He's still here. We're probably going to continue with him through the 9 o'clock hour talking about a number of things. We'll pick up where we left off with the conversation of what does the decentralization of mass media mean for the 2024 election. What does it mean as it-- we were talking to Brian about reaching his generation. He's 18. And just what a godsend it is that Elon Musk bought Twitter. Tucker got fired from Fox. You're seeing Candace on the rise. And on and on it goes, these independent voices with mass reach. And you look at the top three podcasts in the world right now is Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens. That's crazy. And whether you agree with them or disagree with them, they're independent voices. And you can choose to turn them on or turn them off. They're not the only source. And that's the whole point of the decentralization of it. One point I want to make, and it was the point I was thinking about making before I thought I was going to go to a break and screwed that up was we were talking about the mass media response to the Trump assassination attempt. So he gets shot. CNN says Trump falls on stage. Secret Service ushers him off stage. I think USA Today was Trump falls after loud popping noises. I mean, it's bizarre that these people can get away with that. But the other things that we're seeing that are more subtle, and some of them that you may have heard, but it's because Elon Musk is literally doing screen captures and screen records and then posting them on his Twitter feed, is you look up Donald Trump and it brings up Kamala Harris's campaign page on Google. Like you search Donald Trump assassination attempt, and then it's like Kamala Harris.com. You're like, why is this the search engine optimization? Why is that the suggested site to go to when I looked up Donald Trump? So those type of things. But again, this is a pure anecdotal, my opinion. Please don't sue me Facebook. I know you're listening, but I-- so it was actually my wife and I's anniversary on July 13. When Trump got shot, I was in my bedroom getting dressed, getting ready to take my wife to the acre in Auburn, which is a fantastic restaurant. And my phone's just lighting up, and I'm like, what in the world? And I go look, and oh my goodness, Trump's been shot. And so I go and tell my wife and I pull out my iPad. And I'm going back and forth between Facebook and Twitter, trying to make sure I'm not seeing anything. And for two hours, there was nothing on Facebook about the assassination attempt. My entire feed was just filled with puppies and cats and people's beach pictures. On Twitter, every single post was Trump getting shot. And so it's like, one, how would they know to not let you talk about Trump getting shot? You would think that was there something built into the software that if Trump ever gets shot, we don't talk about it until we can confirm it? Or is it like, we know Trump's fixing again? Anyway, this is a tin foil hat. Going to go ahead and put it on. It's the kind of stuff makes you want or makes you think. So anyway, getting back to that conversation of decentralization of mass media, what do you think about everything that I just said there, Brian? Well, sorry if I could respond to that. But these are two CBS headlines I wanted to read through in the audience. This one was published in June by CBS National News, OK? Former President Donald Trump's vow to stop taxing tips would cost the federal government up to $250 billion over 10 years. That's a CBS headline, not an opinion column. That's a straight headline. Yesterday, this is their front page headline. Vice President Kamala Harris is rolling out a new policy position saying she'll fight to end taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers. Between this CBS headline yesterday and the times painting that picture of her saying this is her moment when she wasn't elected by a single person, we can go back to our original point that we said in the first plot that the media has gotten their talking points from the DNC. They've circled the wagons along with the rest of the DNC leadership around Kamala Harris, and they're doing every single thing they can to praise her. The fact that the same reporter said that the same policy that Kamala Harris played drives from Trump would cost taxes for $10 billion or $250 billion over 10 years. And just a month later, started praising Kamala Harris the same policy really just shows that you're not crazy with a simple hat, Brian. Yeah. Well, I might be crazy and I might have a tin full hat on, but both of those things might be necessary for survival with what's coming, Brian. You can never be too ready. All right, well, we're up against another break. We will be back. This is the Jeff Porsche show. We'll see you on the other side. [MUSIC PLAYING] She said that all the railroof men just drink up your blood like wine. Hey, I was country. [APPLAUSE] I was country, I wasn't true. Yeah, I was country from my act down to all my poo. All right, welcome back to the Jeff Porsche show. Let them talk 106-5. This is not Jeff Ford's, it's Brian Dawson. And one of Jeff's many worlds that he works in, I'm kind of his boss. So I'm not rubbing that in or anything. I'm just throwing it out there. Now, Jeff does an incredible job. He is really made 18-19 news what it is in our newsroom. He can't speak highly enough about the work that he does, the culture that he's brought to the newsroom, and just the job that he does and all of you guys that I hope every single person on here is reading 18-19 news every morning you get in the newsletter. What the news that you see, in the way that we do it, is in large part because of him. So big shout out to Jeff Ford on his show. Grateful that he trusts me enough to come talking to the microphone for three hours without screwing up his brand. So thanks, Jeff. Back to the conversation of the decentralization mass media, what it means to the 2024 election and generations to come. I would put 18-19 news in that conversation also, but we're really talking about the 2024 election, more national things, but we have a media problem here in Alabama that 18-19 has solved in that same spirit of going from the places that you are forced. I mean, you think about AL.com, a radical leftist outlet that's constantly trying to force media matters and prove public talking points down our throats that are not real, the people of Alabama are not real responsive to that, and then they're doing that. And so we want to create an alternative in that same vein. I think we were three years kind of ahead of what you're seeing nationally in that. But I really want to get back to that conversation that we were talking about about the assassination attempt and that being one of those points where you could see the most clear problem that we had that to me, the most powerful, and it was unplanned, and that's what's so beautiful about when these things happen on the right, is we're not out staging things and dress rehearsing things and doing all these other things. Trump literally got shot in the head, you can't fake that, that happened. He went down like any sane person would. He was surrounded by secret service, and he stood back up, and while they were trying to drag him off the stage, he stopped them with disregard for his own safety, and he looked to the crowd, knowing that a leader has to look to the crowd and provide leadership in a circumstance like that so that they don't stampede or whatever, and he looks to the crowd with blood running down his face and the American flag waving behind him, and he pumps his fist and says, "Fight, fight, fight." Guys, that's the most important, most incredible moment in political history in my lifetime, and it has been Orwellian memory hold, okay? It's like it didn't even happen. How does that happen? That happens because of one side of the political apparatus having owning large swaths of the media, and despite trust or distrust, I should say, in the media never being hired, they're still effective at memory holding that event, and then as Brian said, coordinating Kamala, taking the least popular vice president in our nation's history in making her the liberal darling that's gonna save democracy overnight. How do they do that? It's powerful, it's powerful, it's powerful, and that's why we as conservatives need to think about how we engage in this political fight. I often talk about conservatives think in four-year election cycles and liberals think in 40-year generation cycles, okay? Liberals for the last 100 years have been over here taking over Ivy League schools, now colleges and universities and public schools and libraries and the media and news and all these other things, they're capturing institutions because they understand how culture shapes politics, and so they hijack these institutions that we built and then use them to shape and mold the political climate and policies that we're seeing, and so conservatives have to start thinking differently if we're going to win, and I think we will begin to think differently, and I think this decentralization of mass media is just the tip of the iceberg. So, Brian, Holly Hinn, still our guest, still joining me as I'm doing a monologue anyway. Sorry about that, Brian. So, another thing I think that we would be irresponsible to not talk about, I'm sure the guys in the morning show talked a lot about it, was Elon Musk having Donald Trump on a Twitter space and millions of people tuning in just to hear a conversation between the richest man in the world and President Donald Trump. Did you listen to that, Brian? Did you, I'm sure you did. - Yeah, I did, I was at Winston County last night speaking at their Republican event and walked out expecting the space to be over because it started an hour before and he actually ended up doing a three and a half hour interview with Elon Musk, which is something that Biden or Comma can do. And I think the perfect, you know, representation of that, you said, you know, a few million a week, the numbers we had last night. This morning, we woke up to news that Elon Musk saying over a billion people had listened to that conversation on Twitter. That's over a billion people. We're talking like more than suitable numbers, listening to a three and a half hour conversation between the 45th president and the richest man in the world, just a casual conversation. And when I think there's some points in the interview, I think are really important. First of all, Elon Musk admitting that he's not a Republican. He's somebody that supported Obama both times, voted for Obama, but Trump brought him around kind of red-pilled him because he's speaking the truth and he's pushing back against, like we talked about this decentralization, mass media, and also just of the government as a whole. And I think that's what's so important to push him back against that. I think this is a perfect time to talk about the stark contrast between the Trump campaign and the Harris campaign. And last night was a perfect example. What we're seeing on the Trump side is Donald Trump and JD Vance, criss-crossing the country, doing multiple events a day, going to the forgotten men and women like he did in 2016 and speaking directly to them and directly to my generation about how he can make America great again, make America prosperous again, with a hopeful message that's not just talking points. He sits and talks directly to young people. You and I talked about this last week. And we're seeing the complete opposite on the Harris wall side. We're seeing them refuse to take questions from reporters, refuse to even do a sit-down interview with DNC-friendly media and not put out any policy positions, zero. And so I think this is a perfect opportunity. Trump's campaign yesterday introduced their 20 core principles when he rejoined ex yesterday morning. And it was 20 promises that he plans to do, you know, within this harsh 100 days in office. And I think that's a perfect, perfect example to capitalize on this opportunity. I know last week, and this is an all-star thing, Harris and Wall's campaign, announced that sometime this week, showing out their economic plan, sometime this week, Brian. Now, what I think is important to note here, and this is what we constantly are hearing from the left talking point right now, I had somebody just this week in North Carolina come up to me and say, "Oh, well, would Kamala Harris get to an office in January? She's gonna fix the economy. Everything will be okay." And I said, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, one second. What's her current title?" And they said, "Oh, she's the first." You know, she's Madame Vice President. She's currently in there, Brian. She could fix this or prevent it. - Yeah, no, it's insane, any man. And thinking about you can tell where the threats are, based off of the flack that they're taking and the resistance to what's happening. And so, I don't know, a president being shot in the head, he's probably over the target, right? Or there's a book out right now called Shepherds for Sale, this amazing daily wire reporter. I mean, she's unbelievable. Meghan Basham has done all this tremendous investigative research into how the communists in our country, the Marxist, the woke mind virus, folks have spent, you know, tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions, of dollars trying to hijack the church the same way they've hijacked her universities and everything else. And man, she brings receipts and she has been under attack, right? And so, wherever you see attack coming from these people, that means that, okay, that guy's doing something that's hurting them, the other side, right? And what I see with that is Elon Musk has been under attack. Like, he's always been under attack, he's always been not in the cool club. But when he bought X, it was crazy the amount of adversity he faced in attack. But then specifically, when he's gonna bring on Donald Trump to do this, you know, this conversation, this three hour conversation, like you said, I wanna say it was the EU, or one of those groups put out a thing that said that they're gonna, this is just, it cracks me up, I giggle, chuckle, whatever the word would be, as I read it, that Elon Musk is at risk of exposing mass audiences to far-right extremist content by interviewing a former president. - Oh, and I think that's lunacy, and that's what we're seeing, that the EU is trying to censor Elon Musk. I'm surprised to begin to see it and put a similar statement out last night, saying that they were gonna censor it. But I really think that that exposes what's truly going on in the country. They're trying to shut this down. They're trying to stop conversations. This morning, Elon Musk woke up and tweeted that he would happily have Kamala Harris on for Twitter spaces anytime, any place that you wear. Brian, you know, she's not gonna do that because she doesn't have policies to stand on. Last week, when I was talking to you, I called her Kamala the chameleon. And I could not tell you the amount of DMs and emails I got because I said that on your show, but it's true. It's genuinely true. She changes her stance regardless of what groups she's standing in front of. And she has no core policies, no core principles. She really flip-flops, worse than anybody I've ever seen. - Could you imagine a three-hour conversation with Kamala Harris? I think the suicide rate would skyrocket. People would just be reaching for a gun to shoot themselves with just to make the pain go away if they had to listen to that. Singing of her being unburdened for three hours to talk about the Venn diagram. So, yeah. Anywho, so, I mean, there's so many places I wanna go. I think one of the other things that I thought was very productive in our conversation that we had was, you know, I think I mentioned earlier Gigabay Super Chad, Chad King. I would attribute that title to JD Vance. It's not an endorsement, just saying. I think the guy is, he's new blood and what has been a very establishment chamber of commercey, neo-con, Karl Rove, and on and on I go. You know, space, here comes this hillbilly populist conservative. Yeah, he went to Yale, but at the end of the day, dude, I watched JD Vance's Hill, so you told me, have you watched the hillbilly OG? I'm like, no, I better go watch it. And I went and watched it. I watched his story, his story is my story. Okay, and it's literally like, I'm watching it. I'm like, oh my goodness. Like, I was like getting choked up watching it 'cause he went through a very similar upbringing. Except he was smart and he got in the Marines and went to Yale. I got into trouble and went to jail. That's where our paths differed. And that's why he's the vice president. I'm sitting here with you guys in Laurel, Alabama. That's neither here nor there. It's neither here nor there. What does JD Vance mean to your generation, the people that you're talking and listening to every day? Oh, it means a lot and it shows that the RNC and Trump's campaign are being strategic with trying to win over youth voters. I mean, I mentioned you and I were in Milwaukee together for the convention. The day he was nominated, official announced that Monday morning when Trump announced no true social. He did that interview with Sean Hannity was walking out of that interview and him and I literally bumped into each other walking down the corridor in the media hallway. And so, you know, guys have a very brief conversation. Grab a picture with him. And I can tell you just from that interaction that he's genuine. On probably the craziest day of his entire life, it took the time to sit and talk to a young person. Sitting actually, you know, listen to a young person. In the comment he made, and I've said it a few times 'cause I think it's a perfect, perfect example, is that if and when he gets inaugurated in January, he will be the 40-year-old vice president taking the place of Joe Biden's 40-year-old career in Washington, D.C. This is a perfect choice. JD Vance, first of all, is a great debater. He won Ohio in a very close election. He knows how to win the nation and what's going to be a very close election regardless of what pundits are trying to tell you. I mean, he's a youthful voice that the Republican Party so desperately needs. And so, I really think some of the pushback that we saw on the left and the right, the day that JD Vance was announced, shows how good of a candidate he was because just like you said, you look at who was attacking him, it was his establishment, Karl Rove figures, who are terrified of a populist coming into the party and actually representing Edward Adams. - Yeah, so, as an example of a super-based giga-chad moment in JD Vance, walks up to Kamala Harris' press corps, right, he's got his secret service and who's his secret service made up of? Yeah, they want him to get shot next. It's all the people. (laughs) It's all the D, the D hires that they were there trying to holster their pistols and when Trump got shot, those are all the people on JD Vance now just so you know if you're watching. So anyway, he's walking up with his secret service cadre as he goes up to the Vice President's press corps and is just like, hey, thoughts you guys might be lonely. I wanted to come take a look at my new plane and give you guys a chance to actually ask somebody some real questions. And I was just like, oh my gosh, I cannot believe he just did that. Oh, that was based. You know, it's so perfect of an example to show that this is somebody that is gonna represent the part of the party that is so fed up with the media. Not even, I mean, imagine if Donald Trump didn't do a press conference for close to 20 days. No, it didn't take any media questions. They would be screaming at the top of the lungs at the guy every time he walked in, out of a car up and on the stairs. Kamala Harris walks down the stairs. Good morning, not in Vice President. No questions, they're screaming, no anything. So JD Vance realized he's parked in the same airport. And sorry, let me just take a little stroll over there. I have a friend who is in his, you know, team of advisors that walked with him and he texted and said, "They'll look on the media space." Was like, this isn't a part of the script. What do we do? Do we cut our cameras? What are we supposed to do? Because they're just there to cover through Kamala and JD Vance just stole the show from him and it was perfect. - Yep, it's absolutely amazing. You know, and there's so much more to talk about kind of in that vein. And I want to hear more from you as far as kind of what your ambitions are, where you're headed. And we can do that on the other side of this next break that's coming out. But what is JD Vance, and we got a tight window, but when I see him, the pick, like you said, the response to JD Vance shows that he was the right pick. I was having a conversation in the last commercial break about, do you think Kamala Harris picked Tim Walzer? Do you think that pick was given to her? - I think the pick was given to her. I think Josh Piero was the obvious pick. And the DNC leadership was like, "Oh no, we can't do this. "This is going to upset our extreme radical base." And so they actually win over independent voters that chose to side with the base, which shows she could have had the opportunity as an nominee to say, "No, no, no, no, no. "I'm picking who I want to pick. "I want to pick the candidate. "I can win me an entire state of Pennsylvania, "the swingiest of swing states right now." But she laid down and did what the DNC wanted her to do. And I think that she's going to show her decision-making skills. This is going to be another potential president that's just going to listen to the Obama wing of the party. I was just going to listen to her advisors and not really do strong, smart things. - Yep, there it is. All right, this is Jeff Portia. We'll be back on the other side of this break. ♪ Jesus ♪ ♪ Where if my first car ♪ ♪ My heroes have always been cowboy ♪ ♪ And they're still on the scene ♪ ♪ Sat in search of ♪ ♪ One step ♪ - Welcome back to the Jeff Portia on FM Talk 106-5. This is not Jeff Port. This is Brian Dawson. I'm filling in for a couple more hours. So we're going to continue this conversation. I've been having with Brian on Holly Hand. Again, he is the chairman of the RNC's advisory council, a very sharp young man. Written a book called One Generation Away. Before we dive in, Brian, where can people get that book? - Yeah, absolutely. Time copies are available at brylandbook.com. That's v-r-i-l-i-n-book.com or anywhere books are sold. - There you go. And I do think that the message is so important. And it was funny that, you know, it's called One Generation Away. Obviously referencing the Reagan quote of freedom, not being handed down on the bloodstream, something that has to be fought for and worked for. And I have a daughter named Reagan in that same spirit. And she happened to be in the studio with me when you came in and brought me that book. So I thought that was very appropriate. - That's perfect. - Talk more about the book. That's how I kind of, I think we should close. I mean, there's so many other things we could talk about. But I really, I do want to give you a chance to plug your book, push your book. And I think people need to buy and read your book. - Oh, I appreciate that. Yeah, you know, I mentioned at the top of the first segment that it's a book that was seven years in the works. It really is. It's conversations with the American people and what I've constantly heard. And Brian, you and I have talked about this, you know, a dozen times, but it's true. What I constantly hear from people is that they believe that there's not hope in our future. And I specifically hear that from my peers, no travel to college campuses. And we're pushing back against that. What I constantly tell people is that my hope is in Jesus Christ alone, not in the DC bureaucrat. That's the spirit, that's the theme of the book. I wrote it from my peers out there. My peers who look out at this country and do not see a future of a free American and want to fight against that. I've wrote it for parents. Parents just like mine, that Stephen Doctrine Nation going on to the schools that want to push back against that. They want to start instilling these Christian conservative morals and values we've all talked about today in the living room before they're indoctrinated in the classrooms. And finally, it's for grandparents. Grandparents just like mine who look out at the country and do not recognize this country and want to fight against that. This is for them. It's, you know, something that it was a labor of love for several, several, several months. And it came together and it's just an honor to be able to publish it. - Awesome. Well, I'm sure your parents are super proud and they should be watching you go over the country doing these big interviews and, you know, building your own brand and all of these things. And so I've met your mom on a number of occasions and obviously she's always beaming with pride when she's next to you as she should be. And one of the points I want to make is you think about the next generation as parents who are listening to this, that Reagan quote is so true. Freedom is not something that's handed out on the bloodstream. We, kids, children don't pick up principles of freedom by osmosis, specifically in the world we're living in now. The culture of freedom and liberty used to be so thick in our country that it was. I mean, schools actually did teach patriotism and love of country and actual history. But those days are no more. And so it requires an extremely intentional effort to make conservatives, to make Christians, to make, you know, citizens that are going to be productive members of society that think rightly about everything from politics to economics and everything in between because there's a group of people who have hijacked our education system that want to teach them the exact opposite of what you believe in. They essentially want to steal your children. And this is the quote that I always use is that liberals don't reproduce in the bedroom, they reproduce in the classroom. And so parents think about that as you make education decisions. Brian and Holly and thank you so much for taking the hour to spend with us and have this great conversation. Brian, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me anytime. - Awesome. Thanks, Brian. Blessings. All right. This is the Jeff Porchoe. We'll be back. (upbeat music) - From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porchoe. ♪ I don't think I ain't done it this way ♪ - All right. Welcome back to the Jeff Porchoe. I'm Brian Dawson, guest hosting for Jeff with the best bumper music in the state of Alabama on any radio show ever in the whole history of the medium. Anyway, well, I'm going into another hour here, gonna be bringing on a new guest. My next guest is a dear friend of mine and state representative in Alabama. His name is Ernie Yarbrough, and he is up and off Alabama way far from here. Basically, on the other side of the globe, it feels like when you're down in lower Alabama, talking to people up where he is. Ernie Yarbrough, thank you so much for joining us. - Well, thank you for having me. It's my honor to get on and talk for a few minutes, and hopefully we can check new some liberty and freedom for Alabama. - That's it. Yeah, the result of this is gonna be freedom raining from ocean to next federal government project up in Huntsville, whatever landmark that would be. Space rocket, that's it, there it is. Okay, moving on. So, I wanted to talk to you. I think it's very timely with all of the immigration problems we're having in the state right now, with Haitian migrants being busting Athens and Albertville and everywhere else. It just, it seems real crazy, and I think, and we can, kind of, what is the wax philosophical or whatever this thing in, after you talk about Lake and Riley Act, I want to hear more about the Lake and Riley Act, what you think that will do for our state, but then I really want to get into, why are they doing this? 'Cause I think that's the bigger question that I want to get to. I believe it goes into another topic that I'm gonna talk about later on the show, is the death of Western civilization. Some of it was the suicide of the West, and some of it was an intentional killing of a culture, and why would you let your border open? Why would you open it up? Why would you encourage and incentivize migrants from countries where they're eating people, like in Haiti right now, literally cannibals over there? Why would you want them pouring over your border and all of these type of things? We'll get into that, but specifically, talk about the Lake and Riley Act and what you think that will do for our state and nation. - Yes, thank you for having me on, brother. - I appreciate that. Yeah, so basically, the context here is, I think it's really important to see, is that what we have, what we're currently experiencing in terms of the immigration situation, is an application of duty by the federal government. When people in places of responsibility advocate their duty, it is then, we're not helpless. This is America. A grassroots freedom, local authority and responsibility. So it becomes incumbent and necessary for the lesser magistrates for those in the state in lower positions of authority to step in and be a firewall and the protection for their people. So that's the concept behind the Lake and Riley Act. The concept here is like, look, the federal government has advocated its responsibility, like it's actively encouraging the opposite, right? The destruction of their responsibility to protect in a treasonous action of opening our borders. So what this bill does is it's a take. We're gonna allow local law enforcement. The concept here is what is local, what is closest to our communities is the best solution, right? And people who care the most, 'cause most people live there, right? So the idea is we're gonna allow local law enforcement to enter into an MOU, a memorandum of understanding for the federal government, for the purpose of not profiling, but for the purpose of, and we have illegal people who are here illegally, who are engaged in criminal behavior, that this gives them a process to arrest them, to detain them for 48 hours, while their immigration status is being checked, 'cause if they're arrested in the prosecution of a crime, then we can say, okay, also are you here illegally or not, right? And if you're here illegally, now the local law enforcement can enter into an MOU with the federal government, is that, all right, you're not here illegally, you were caught shoplifting, okay, for example, but you're not here illegally, and we have, we have documented cases where lesser crimes, as it were by people who are here illegally, because it wasn't checked, it wasn't stopped, it wasn't, it led to murder. Hence the name of the act itself, because the guy who was convicted, the guy who was caught in the murder of Lake and Riley, it already had multiple run-ins with the law, right? Because they did not have a formalized process, so with an MOU, just say, hey, this is garbage, get him out of here, he shouldn't even be here, right? So that's what led to this bill being drafted in Georgia, and passed, and that became the model for what we're doing here, so is the Lake and Riley. So the concept is, number one, local law enforcement, is able to arrest and engage with people who are engaged in illegal behavior, criminal activity, right, it's not just driving around profiling deep law, all he was accused from Mexico, let's just scoop him up. That's not what's happening here, to enforce already existing law, right, it's no new law. It's already existing law, but the federal government is supposed to be doing, but they're not, right? So this is a move to officially codify what is already on the books, but co-opting in local law enforcement to be a protective barrier for local people. - Wow, protecting your citizens. Who would have thought, Ernie, what an idea, the government protecting their citizens from people with malicious intent, you know, amazing. Well, that is the, go ahead. - Well, obviously, yeah, the problem with that not happening is because we have people in government who have malicious intent, our own government officials have malicious intent towards their own citizens. - Yeah, now you're 100% correct, and I'm grateful to see you bringing this bill, I'm grateful to see, you know, the response. And again, you know, this is a common theme if you listen to my podcast or read any of my writing is, I was saying, when that will never happen here, it happens here again, right? You know, we're seeing the crazy stuff in schools with the, you know, the pervert teachers and then, you know, porn in the public libraries and blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, you know, southern Baptists and, you know, southern Christians in the Bible Belt, like we don't, we thought we were safe here. And we said that will never happen here, but then it keeps happening. So the saying is when that will never happen here, happens here again, I believe immigration is the same thing. This is Alabama, we ain't gonna play that. We ain't gonna have, you know, and again, like I feel the same way as like, why I love living in Alabama, we're gonna be the last place that happens, but just being Alabama or just being in the South doesn't actually prevent these things from happening. We actually have to do something, right? And so immigration should not be happening here, not illegal immigration. And then this new thing that they're doing is all like, oh, they're actually seeking refugee status. And it's like refugee from what? Well, they're eating people in Haiti. Okay, well, I'm sorry they're seeking refuge from that, but what if they come here and start eating people? Again, I mean, I would say that somewhat jokingly, but you're bringing dangers from dangerous places onto our borders. Do we have a responsibility to help? I guess that's, again, waxing philosophical, but by getting back to it, there is, it seems why is the state of Texas at war with the federal government, or better yet, why is the federal government war with the state of Texas for trying to seal up the border? Like what kind of federal government do we have, Ernie, that they're literally wanting people to pour over our borders? Well, I think the answer to that question is very simple, that this thing started to come out when Kamala, I mean Kamala, Kamala, Kamala, how do you say your name? Kamala. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Kamala, Kamala, part of the Kamala. So when the message started to come out, hey, well, we should allow these, well, I know they don't want to call them illegal aliens because that's so unkind, but it's true. They're aliens, they're not native to this man and they're here illegally. Like when these now, they're just migrant workers, even though they're undocumented, they're not here illegally, whatever. Now here comes the messaging. I saw this the other day reading an article about it. Well, they should be able to vote because they pay taxes too. Oh, what, oh, in other words, what they say is, well, they go and buy stuff at the gas stations, so they're contributing to our economy as well. So stock and surprise, it's like, how many things do we predict gonna happen and they keep happening? I was saying forever, I was saying forever, there will be an attempt made on Trump's life. I firmly believe that and full of all, boom, done. So what they want is they don't see, my dad put it best. These people in power, you have to understand that they believe that power is a virtue, right? The holding of power is any means to that end is also therefore by default virtuous. And they do not care what those means are. They don't care because they hate God, they hate America's history, they hate everything good, wholesome, decent and virtuous and they will not stop until either the righteous people of this country repent and rise up or they turn America into Mordor. That's what, this is the battle. This is the no holds, this is the reality. And to your point, you know, when you say, oh, this has never happened here, but then it happens, why? Because we are not, we have to intentionally go on the offensive and say, no, no, no, we're going to put barriers in place. We're going to put legal protections. We're going to stand up and stand fast and stand firm. And if you don't like it, you can go eat dirt somewhere else. - Mm-mm, mm-mm, preach. - And we have to have that spirit because that is what somebody who loves their country. And now, here's the thing. Teddy Roosevelt said, walk softly, carry a big stick. Now, on the other hand, America has this history of being a beacon of hope. Send me your poor, send me your oppressed, send me your downtrodden, right? That's the story of America. But the thing is, is why is it so easy for people to pour over the border who are, I mean, even I saw a report where even DHS acknowledged that they knew that Venezuela was emptying their prisons into this country, basically a big SPU to America. They don't care, right? But then on the other hand, why is it that so many citizens are people who want to be citizens, who are, who are, you know, got medical training, who are family people, character, they have been trying for years to become citizens of our country. And the answer, the answer is just as simple as what we're seeing unfold. It's because they want to have a certain class of people come in and they don't want to have a, it's a power play. So what they think can be their voter base by using tax dollars to prosecute votes. That's what it is. - And I think it's bigger than garnering votes. I think that that's obvious, yes, they're trying to bring on a whole bunch of people they know that they're gonna vote. But I think it's bigger and I think it's more nefarious and I think it's more malicious. I look, I'm a cultural student. That is my biggest thing. I'm constantly looking at culture. What is culture? Where does it come from? What does it do? You know, and I think it's most nutshell, culture is that something that is produced from the values and mores and in common ways of a people. It's produced, but once that culture is produced, it then reflects what's going on in that society and reinforces it. So it's almost like momentum. Like a people is going this way. And then that culture almost gives it momentum to continue going that way. And one of the things that shapes culture, and if you have a nation, which is a people and a place, some of the things that JD Vance has gotten trouble for saying is like, this is not a nation of ideas. That is a liberal talking point. This is not a nation of ideas and it's not even really a nation of immigrants. It's a nation of settlers, which is a big difference. But JD Vance comes out and says, no, we are a nation is a people and a place. Yes, we have common ideas, but we're not a nation of ideas. We are people and a place and we have a shared history, a shared heritage, a shared religion, a shared language and a shared future, right? And we're here with what I would consider in kind of heritage America. And that's the black people who've been here from the beginning, that's the white people who've been here since the beginning, but we still have a common religion and a common history and a common all these other things. They're trying to get the biggest hodgepodge of people who do not believe what we believe, do not speak our language, do not look like us and force them all in here to create absolute chaos. That's what I think they're doing. And the end is if they can destroy the Christian culture and the Christian heritage of this nation, that's the only way they win. That's the reason I mentioned Megan Bashan's book earlier, Shepherds for sale, the reason they're attacking her is because they know that there's one thing that's standing in the way of their full bore sexual revolution. There's one thing that's standing in the way of all of their goals and that's the Christian church and a Christian culture. Or if you can hold on the line, we're gonna hit a break and then I'll bring it back and we'll continue the conversation. All right guys, this is the Jeff Horseshoe. We'll be back. (upbeat music) ♪ Why can't you see ♪ ♪ What you do with me ♪ ♪ When you don't believe a word ♪ ♪ Stayed up late again watching TV with my best friend ♪ ♪ Laughing at the late night show ♪ ♪ I don't know what's wrong with me ♪ ♪ 'Cause I know I need my wrist ♪ ♪ But if I go stay about now ♪ ♪ I sleep on day and ain't in my best ♪ ♪ Hey, yes ♪ - Welcome back to the Jeff Horseshoe. This is Brian Dawson, filling in for Jeff Horseshoe. We're just about at the halfway point, so if you're suffering, waiting for Sean to get in here only an hour and a half or so left and then you'll be able to have the professional, the man in doing his show. But let's get back to state rep Ernie Yarbrough. We've got a short segment here. Ernie, if you will, talk a little, I'd really just like to introduce you to the people of Mobile. You are up in North Alabama. What are some of the other things that you're passionate about? Why did you run for office? What in your DNA just makes you go when you get up every single day? - Yeah, 100% brother. Yeah, so my campaign slogan is make Alabama local again, right? And I'm actually writing a book right now called Make America Local Again. And what really is the core of my passion is number one of returning to our historical Christian roots and number two in that context, it is localism. It is our local freedoms, our local liberties, our rights, but also our responsibilities that we have to return to as the tip of the spear for how we solve the problems that we face. And I think it's really important that when we talk about our rights, we have to talk about responsibility. And the message that needs to go out to our people in terms of what I want the people of Alabama to hear is that ultimately when we talk about our rights, we have to also talk about our responsibilities in a local context and that we have to begin to shift our minds to the way from top-down solutions to grassroots solutions for the needs and problems of our communities. And so my passion and my heart is that, you see, you heard the statement, service or authority flows to those who serve. Another way is authority flows to those who take responsibility. And we are in tremendous need for the people of Alabama to create a plethora of voluntary institutions to start getting the dependency on our tax dollars taken from us, giving back to us with a hook through our nose from the federal government. We've got to start forming voluntary institutions to meet the needs of our country, to meet the needs of our state. And so my desire is to see the people of Alabama begin to really intentionally turn off the television, get away from the lack of pleasure and amusement that dreams not to think. And so you know what is meaningful? You know what is like fulfilling to me? It's not some idea of an American dream where I work for 30 years and go right in an RV for 30 years and I'm used to no one. What is really fulfilling to me is to walk in my responsibilities and to crack local solutions and bring my children with me, bring my community with me, bring my young people with us who solve the problems, connect our hands, form relationships and walk in freedom. That is really the heartbeat of why I have such a passion to see happen in Alabama. - Hmm, that's good. Talk about some of the bills that you are known for, medical freedom and equal protection. We've got a couple of minutes, see if you can blast through that and what is the future of those things. Real quick, medical freedom, a simple idea there. I filed a bill that actually the current speaker of the House co-sponsored when it was the year before I got in there, I think that was the year before you became a speaker, which is medical freedom, which is the idea that your vaccination voices should be between you and your employer. They should have no bearing on your job status. They should have, you know the state have to be willing to band together and tell the federal government and the Pfizer's and the Fauci's when they come to medical freedom, go pound sand. You will not use vaccinations and our medical choices that are between me and my doctor as anything other than it's my freedom, leave me alone. You know, don't call me, I'll call you. That's the heart of that bill. It should be very simple. It should be non-controversial. Get out of my medical choices when it comes to my vaccination status, right? So I will be filing that bill again in the law of God. And then also equal protection, simple concept. Abortion is still not illegal, because in the Alabama's homicide laws and in all these other states, the baby is removed from all protections if the person taking the life of the baby is the mama, right? So a woman can be nine months pregnant, take a knife to her tummy, and then we wanna charge double homicide if the baby dies in the car crash by a drunk driver. And the simplest way to prevent the unjust taking of life is equal protection, right? We want to say that regardless of your position, enter out of the room, ground our little, right? That your life is equally protected and can't be taken without due process and equal justice. That simple. - Good, good stuff. Ernie, Representative Ernie Yarbrough, thank you so much for your time, brother. Thanks for coming on. - Thank you, it's my honor. God bless you. - All right, it's Jeff Porsche. We'll be back. 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All right, so rounding out the 10 o'clock hour, I wanna talk about something that I think is, it's very pivotal. It's something I've talked a little bit about on my podcast, but I've never really dove all the way into it. And I've had this conversation. I was in Milwaukee. I was at the RNC, really, really cool event, by the way. It's crazy to see kind of the memory holding of the assassination attempt and the way that the, kind of call it the regime machine, the left, lame stream media, their ability to just kind of deflate all the energy that conservatives had coming out of the convention. I'd never seen conservatives more energized, unified, galvanized any of those things as I did at that event. And I think it's still so. It's just ever since the coronation of Kamala things have gotten a little, I guess it's taking up all the air in the room. So we'll see as they get out of their convention if that energy or the appearance of that energy returns. So, but as I was in Milwaukee and JD Vance was made the vice presidential nominee, what became abundantly clear to me, I'm not a deep political student like some of the people that I've talked to specifically on Alabama politics. Some of the people that are probably listening to this right now down here in lower Alabama that know infinitely more than me. But I have been right about a few things. And what I sense is happening is the JD Vance pick represents a massive push towards populist conservatism in the Republican Party. And it's twofold. And so in 2016, Trump's strategy was he went into the factories and talked to coal miners and talked to that working class people. And he really resonates with populist and he really resonated with the Bible Belt down here in the South. It was just deep red. I mean, everywhere I went, you know, I was a Ted Cruz guy back in that. That was kind of who I wanted to see when that primary back in 2016 didn't know that much about Trump, wasn't sure about him. But man, everybody I talked to that lived near me these, you know, just good God-fearing, hardworking people, they all want to Trump, they all want to Trump. And I'm like, what is, you know, and so that's when I began to kind of have a window into this topic that I want to talk to you guys about in this segment. And that is the shift towards populism in the Republican Party and what that means and then what does that mean for Alabama in the future. And the strategy, so what you used to see in, you know, the Karl Rove, George Bush, George W. Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney, Bob Dole, blah, blah, blah, like that whole low energy chamber of commerce, war-hocking sect of the Republican Party, that's over at the national stage, guys, like that's done. Nikki Haley was the Karl Rove candidate, if you, I don't know if that was actually who was running her campaign, but I'm just saying in the culture of the Karl Rove space, the Neocon, the Warhawk, that person was Nikki Haley, and she was pulling it like 2% when the field was still crowded. In 2012, if Nikki Haley was running and she was the Neocon, Warhawk, you know, coordinated candidate, then what you would have seen is she would have been like 72% and she would have won the nomination. And so what you're seeing is a massive shift away from neo-conservative war-hocking, that being the push in the Republican Party. Now it's more towards that working class, people who are raising their families and going to church, the people who make the country hum the forgotten worker is the terminology that they've been using a lot, a forgotten worker, that's what's in the party platform, Trump's party platform. Is there going after, in order to win in 2020, Republicans are going to have to go into Minnesota, they're gonna have to go into Wisconsin, they're gonna have to go into Michigan, they're gonna have to go to Ohio and go to Pennsylvania and win the majority of those states, if not all of them, if they want to win. And what is really interesting, what happened in Alabama in the South, I don't know the exact years, but I know when you go back and look at the Senate in 2010, there was some very rambunctious, good, great conservatives in the state Senate here in Alabama, but I don't know exactly what years everything started to really flow and move, but everyone went from being a Democrat in Alabama to becoming a Republican. And that's kind of what I wanna talk about, and then show how that national trend could affect what's going on in the state of Alabama. And so my family, the Dawson's, are from North Louisiana and Mississippi. So Gloucester, Mississippi and West Monroe, Louisiana. And so my dad grew up in the South, very similar culture is Alabama. And he and his mom and his friends and everybody they went to church with, all people who went to church, worked hard for a paycheck at a factory or a warehouse or something like that, they were all Democrats. If you worked for a paycheck back in the day, you were likely a Democrat. That's the way that it was. And the Republican party was made up of primarily big corporations, big business. And what happened, the big businesses, there really was predatory practices from big corporations that hurt the working class. And so the working class, that's where you got trial lawyers and unions and unions and trial lawyers at one time, actually served a purpose to protect working class, God-fearing, hard-working people who worked for their paychecks, from bad practices, from corporations and businesses. Well, what ends up happening though, is that the unions get out of control and they spiral into what they've turned into now, which is no good. The trial lawyers spiral out of control and turning into ambulance chasers and they kind of get drunk on their own power. And then the Democrat party completely abandons the working class, okay? The Democrat party completely abandons the working class, they have been completely hijacked by the woke mind virus, the Marxist, the communists, okay? And so when the Democrat party left the working class, the working class didn't have anywhere to go, there was no political representation for them. And so in the South, they came, those populists, those working class people, those God-fearing, hard-working people that worked for their paychecks, they moved into the Republican party. And then what you ended up having in the Republican party in the South and in Alabama, we'll say, is you had two parties inside a one party. You ended up with that working class populist base and then you kind of had your chamber of commerce, Republicans, all in the same party. And it worked for a little while, but one of the big things that you see in Alabama that it seems like it's like, why is there such a split in the Republican party? Well, that's why, that's where you see the fault lines between when you see, again, a Jerry Carl and a Barry Moore, both great guys, but Barry Moore is much more your populist working class representation guy and Jerry Carl, a great guy has done great stuff for this area down here, but he's a little bit more of the big business. You have to have big business, you have to have working class people, you have to have them both, they both need representation. But that's some of the war that you see that happens in the state, in the Republican party, is this difference between the working class populist conservative and some of that big business Republican. Again, you have to have both of them for things to function, but it used to be, those were two separate parties, but then the Democrat party really just turned into the full blown communist party of America in a sense of the values and things in them, abandoning the working class. And so now what you're seeing, I believe on the national stage, is that you see the big push to go get that working class vote in the Rust Belt. They got the working class vote in the Bible Belt, now they're going to get that working class vote in the Rust Belt, going and getting the factory workers in Michigan and Wisconsin and Minnesota and Pennsylvania and Ohio. And that pick for JD Vance, who is exactly, that is his bread and butter, that was his entire platform that JD Vance ran on, it's what his movie is all about, is this class of people who's been completely forgotten, and specifically what I think is really interesting, and you're not allowed to talk about it, which means I'm probably going to talk about it, is another thing that's happened that you see with JD Vance and some of their messaging is, you see people battling to get the black vote, the woman vote, they gave vote. But like, there's no one who's just actually coming out and saying like, you know, if we went after the white working class vote, that might help us, if we actually targeted them and actually tried to serve them, we need to serve everybody, but there's no messaging that was targeted at the white working class, there's no messaging that was targeted towards, you know, families and things like that. It was always like pandering to the periphery, is what I call it. All this messaging that was trying to go scoop up a few percentage points of these kind of periphery groups, when if you really just super served the core of your base, they would actually get excited and energized and turn out, and Steve Dase has actually showed this, and you know, as he reviewed exit polling from the last, I don't know, like five elections or something, you know, but so it's just, it's really interesting, but it's interesting to watch this strategy to see where their efforts are and what they're doing and what JD Vance means is that they're doubling down on that position to go after the forgotten working class because they want to do in the Rust Belt, what they did in the Bible Belt, which is by pulling all of the hardworking, you know, working class, church going, families, those type of people into the Republican Party, the same way they did here, they want to see that happen, up there as well, and so I think it's, you know, really interesting, and it'll be fun to watch, and again, JD Vance, if you've not seen that movie, He'll Billie Elegy, I think it's worth going to watch and getting just a good idea of who he is, where he comes from, the type of adversity that he's overcome, and you know, why it shapes his character into who it is, and I think it's also a really interesting point that, man, I'm trying to think of the guy that made the movie, it's like one of the greatest film producers in our country. I'm going to have to Google it anyway, but he was against Trump when he started. In 2016, JD Vance was not on the Trump train, and because he wasn't on the Trump train, he ends up getting one of the best filmmakers in the world makes his movie. If he was a Trump supporter in 2016, that movie doesn't get made, and so he wasn't so sure about Trump, he didn't trust Trump. Well, then he gets his incredible movie made because he wasn't for Trump. Switch is over and becomes a huge Trump supporter, and I believe that it's genuine support for him too. And what he can do is he shows that if he had his mind changed, so he knows how to go out and change the minds of other people who thought the way he did. So I think that's the strategy that you're seeing, that's not my endorsement of this or that, that's just my observation of what's happening. Ron Howard just got it in the text message, that is it. So that is the guy that made the movie. So anyway, that's my observation of what you're seeing on the national political scale, and what that means for Alabama, we'll talk about when we come back. (upbeat music) ♪ Oh, I'm leaving on that midnight train tomorrow ♪ ♪ And I know just where I'm going ♪ ♪ Back to my troubles and stuff ♪ - Welcome back to "The Jeff Poor Show." This is Brian Dawson filling in for Jeff Poor. I believe he will be back tomorrow. You guys will be pleased. I know he's been gone for a little bit. I know I am certainly happy that he is back. And on the 18-19 news front where Jeff Poor is the editor-in-chief of 18-19 news, I wanna talk a little bit about him kind of shifting years. I wasn't gonna dive a little bit more into, you know, that popular shift at the Republican party and all that stuff, but John Wall is actually gonna be calling in at 11.30, so we'll have Andrew Srell and John Wall next hour. And there's something I wanted to talk about. It's really just been burning in my chest. I don't think I'm gonna have time to read the entire article, but I'm sure you guys heard, saw there was a Auburn City school teacher at Drake Middle School who essentially felt that his hands were being tied in the classroom, that he wasn't able to communicate to the children in his classroom about his sexuality and dragged train. I don't know what all that I can't decide from between trains, drag, all that other stuff. That lifestyle, he wasn't allowed to talk to him in class and he didn't like that, so he created a podcast and advertised that podcast from what we understand allegedly, as they say, to the children in his class. And the things that were on his social media feed and in this podcast were extremely alarming. You know, I would say it probably qualifies as grooming, getting convincing children to not care about their parents' opinions and all of those type of things. And so we exposed that, we had, we found out about that, we wrote an article on that as well as Libs of TikTok did and kind of in unison printed those stories, published those stories. And that afternoon that school teacher resigned. And so, you know, and it's like, okay, well, cool. You know, there's a one less predator in the public schools in the state of Alabama doing weird things, yay. But what we found out was we had some parents that called us, reached out to us and said, they had been trying to tell the school system map for years and the school system would do nothing. So after the original story, several parents contacted 18, 19 news saying they had attempted to address McCullough in 2021, McCullough was the school teacher at Drake Middle School. Parents attempted to address McCullough in 2021 and 2022, specifically regarding his online activities, including this podcast. There's some extremely explicit social media things and stuff that are on the story. The parents provided the evidence they reported to school officials, which included postings on Twitter, TikTok and Instagram. The Twitter page is now non-existent and the Instagram account is now set as private page, although the parents contend that was not the case at the time of the complaint. So one Instagram video shows McCullough receiving a lap dance. Another on TikTok shows McCullough getting into a physical altercation with a man on a local bar. While he was doing his singing drag performance, another video shows McCullough describing the event, saying he was taking off his nails and rings to fight this B word. So again, a public school teacher's social media feed. Imagine there's plenty of other things that if a public school teacher was doing on his social media feed, he would have been fired. But because this guy is part of the LGBTQ community, he was not being fired because at the end of the day, the school system is scared of these people. So on Twitter, McCullough also boasted about being drunk on a school night. Another tweet read, "Open your mind. "I'm not even gonna read that actually. "That's extremely vile." So point being, and where I'm going with all this, is that the parents brought this vile behavior content on social media podcasts, all of these things, brought them to the school decision makers, the people who would be getting rid of a public school teacher that would be in charge of that, were looking into this, and they did nothing. They did nothing for years. Parents begged and pleaded the school to do something about this behavior, and they did nothing. So it says, "One parent who spoke to 18-19 news "on conditional man, and then when he said, "she was made aware of McCullough's online behavior "after her sixth-grade daughter was watching a video "of him doing a strip tease on her school-provided tablet." Lovely, fantastic. She says, "I was wondering why my daughter "was sharing this video of the strip tease of a drag queen "after I found out it was a teacher I just kept digging." She says, "She continues. "I went through TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, all of it. "I also found those podcasts back in 2021, "and I recorded all of it." So the same podcast that came out recently, I already brought it up with the school board, and Sarah Armstrong, the Drake Middle School principal three years ago, and nothing was done. The parent also said she got nowhere with Lowe and was directed to speak with the school attorney's, school's attorney, Patrick Davidson, 'cause I talked with Davidson, I cried, I cried. Hear that, I cried. I sat down across the table from him. He told me that unless they have a physical complaint from a student, like it's going to take this guy touching a student, or sexual action with a student, or students to come forward. He said that, he said, "This is unfortunate, "but this is the way that it is. "We have to wait until something physical happens." And that just broke my heart. Like, I kept saying, there's got to be some code of ethics or something for these children. I mean, I thought teachers had to have beer and a Dixie cup if they're gonna post it. And so again, referring to that behavior, online behavior is scrutinized by schools and other employers. If you're doing this type of behavior, imagine if someone said something racist on their Facebook, they would be fired immediately, right? And so, but they can go and do this and there's not a problem. And what I try and tell people, the necessity of 18, 19 news for the state of Alabama is exemplified in these stories, okay? For years, these parents sat down with the teachers and the principals and the administration with tears in their eyes, begging and pleading for something to be done. But the education system in our state is more scared of the perverts than they are the parents, but it appears they're more scared of 18, 19 news than they are the perverts. And that is the necessity of why we have to be here, or just one more example of what it means to shine light on this stuff so that the right thing can happen. All right, well, that brings us up to the next break in the end of the hour. This is the Jeff Horshow, we'll be back. - Now, if you're leather jagged means to you what this hat means to me, what can I get from Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach at all points in between an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Horshow. ♪ I don't think I ain't done it this way ♪ - Welcome back to the Jeff Horshow, everyone. This is Brian Dawson, CEO of 18, 19 news, filling in for Sir Jeffrey until he is back tomorrow. And we've got another illustrious, I think that's a good word to describe him, illustrious guest, State Auditor Andrew Sorrell. Andrew, thank you so much for taking the time to join us today, sir. - Brian, thank you for having me on. Can you hear me okay? - Yeah, coming through loud and clear. Thinking of some CB radio terminology, we could go back and forth, but that wouldn't be as funny as I thought it was gonna be in my head. So anyway, so much going on. And so the reason I started 18, 19 news is because I wanted to talk about what was going on in the state of Alabama. I think too often, everyone's news cycle that they pay attention to is Fox News. They're, everyone is, what is Nancy Pelosi doing? What's Vladimir Putin doing? What's Vladimir Putin doing? It's all about that. And meanwhile, there's all these things that are going on at the state level that people need to be paying attention to, right? Vladimir Putin's not the reason we're 52nd in education or what's what we were when I started 18, 19, I'm not exactly sure where we are now, but these national and international forces aren't the reason that so many of the bad things that we're seeing in our state are happening. And then also no one was pointing out the good things that were going on in our state and really felt there was a need to do that. And you are a state elected official and why don't you talk about what do you see, let's talk about some state issue things before we jump to the national news cycle that everyone wants to hear about, 'cause really everybody is so laser focused on November, Trump, Kamala, all of that. We will talk about that. But from your perspective, what do you see happening in the next legislative session? What do you think some of the big moves are? Do you think we see gambling again? What are your thoughts? - First of all, I don't read Fox News, I read 18, 19 news. - That's what I'm talking about, tell 'em. - It's way more relevant to my life as an Alabamaian and to my life as an elected official than Fox News is. I consume very little national news. The state and local news is really where it's at. It's much more important. But as far as your question about next session, some of the bills we need to be watching, and look, I know we're still seven months out from the next session, but seriously, it's right around the corner. It's like, it's gonna be Thanksgiving Christmas session. That's how this stuff works. And there's been some crazy legislation introduced and I'm speaking of Representative Hassel's House Bill 23, a bill that, you know, Brian, when I was there, I worked to eliminate the requirement to have a pistol permit to carry a pistol and concealed on your person or in your vehicle. I thought that was unconstitutional to have that requirement. And my friend down there in your neck of the woods where you are right now, Shane Stranger, was the one who got that bill across the finish line. Well, now Representative Hassel's come up with a new twist on it. Hey, how about this? If you're gonna purchase an AR, you have to have a permit. - What a dumb idea. - Yeah. - I mean, long guns weren't even required to have a permit under the old law before we did constitutional carry. You could have a long gun, a shotgun, a rifle, whatever. In your car, you could carry a concealed with no permit. And now he's saying, well, if you're gonna, if you're gonna carry a long gun, you have to have a pistol permit, which makes no sense at all, just another. We see a lot of these bills. We see the red flag laws that get filed by the Democrats every year, but we've got to be careful. There's actually a few Republicans in the House that I think might consider this. And I hate to say that, but I don't think there's gonna be the votes there to pass it, but we just need to be aware of this is going on. So continue speaking out to your legislators about voting against bad gun laws. You mentioned gambling, is gambling gonna come back up again? The question is whether or not they have the votes, if they think they have the votes, then it will come up again. If they don't think they have the votes, I think it consumed so much of last session. I think leadership might be reluctant to bring it up again, because it was really school choice and gambling and IVF. Those were the three big things last session that sucked all the oxygen out of the rim. And if you bring gambling back up again, I could easily eat up half of your session. And if you don't have the votes to pass it anyway, it's just kind of a waste of time. So might there be a couple special elections here or there that happen in the next six or seven months unlikely, but it could happen, could definitely happen before the next legislative session, the final one in the quadrennium. So don't know if gambling will be brought up again, but I will make a prediction. They won't bring it up unless they for sure have the votes. - Yeah, and I think they for sure had the votes last time. And obviously, I think Chris Elliott and Lance Bell were there was not in their predictions that they would be no votes, I feel like. But I don't know I've had those conversations, but just from an outsider's perspective. And man, they went hard in the amount of capital that speaker led better, used in order to try and get that across. It'll be really interesting to see what that does to his influence as the speaker. Obviously when you're the speaker, you're still gonna have a ton of influence. But anytime they go in, like whether it's for a gas tax or it's gambling or it's marijuana or whatever, and they begin to twist arms at that level. And then they twist arms and then the bill doesn't even get passed. It'll be interesting to see how that affects his influence or maybe some of the bigger things that he tries to launch forward in the future. Yeah, I don't know. - But to be fair though, I don't think it made the speaker look weak because he got it through his chamber with more votes than he needed. He had both spare, like 14 votes to spare. It didn't make it through the Senate. So I understand what you're saying, but I'm not sure it impacts, you know, lead better credibility in his own chamber. I think that the blame's getting on the Senate. But I gotta say, compliment the Lance Bell and Chris Elliott, they made the right decision. They stopped a terrible bill from passing. I don't understand how they build gambling as economic development. What's gonna bring jobs in? No, all it's gonna do is take money out of people's pockets. They're going to go lose it at the casino. That's money they would have spent somewhere else and would have created jobs somewhere else in the economy. Henry Haslett wrote a book on this. It's called Economics in One Lesson. And one of the best points he makes the entire book is any time government takes money and gives it to some business to, quote, create jobs, all they've done is pull it out of the economy. And those jobs would have been created somewhere else. But that's impossible to measure. All you can measure is the jobs that were, quote, created by whatever economic incentive they just gave to someone, right? So that's very easy to say. Government just created 1,000 jobs with this incentive program. Yeah, but we don't know did we lose 1,200 on the back end because we pulled the money out of the economy. That's all that happens with gambling. Gambling does not create any economic development at all. You're taking money from one person, giving money to another person, and the conceit taking a cut in the middle. That doesn't generate any good or service that will raise the standard of living for Alabama. Yeah, no, it's crazy. And I mean, obviously, there's so many other problems with it. And I think the most interesting is, is the way that it was kind of pitched. I think they have to pitch it a certain way. So I'm not hyper criticizing, but Ledbetter comes out. And it was kind of funny. He was like, you know, we have a serious problem with illegal gambling in Alabama. And I'm like, you have my ear, speaker. I think we finally agree on something. And then his solution to said illegal gambling problem was, what we need to do is we need to legalize it for the big five, seeing if we legalize it for them, then we'll make it a felony to gamble if you don't have a license. And then we'll create an enforcement agency that's unanswerable and unaccountable to anybody else to go enforce this new felony thing so that we can essentially take out the competition of the big five. And so I always say, you know, imagine if that was drug dealing in fentanyl, okay? And so if someone in the house was like, you know, we've got a big problem with fentanyl. And everyone's like, yeah, no, I totally agree. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna, we're gonna get the biggest five drug dealers in the state of Alabama. We're gonna make fentanyl dealing legal for them. And then we're gonna create an enforcement agency that goes and locks up anybody else that wants to sell drugs. That to me is exactly what they did with that bill. And it just seems bizarre that the way to solve illegal gambling is by legalizing it. - That's a great point. And you know, the funny thing is, this has actually been tried before and it's been tried in the state of California. What did California do? They had a problem with petty theft. That's $1,000 and under in some of these big cities. So they just legalized it. They said, for at least they said, we're not gonna prosecute any theft under $1,000. Well theft under $1,000 went through the roof. And now everything, you go into a CVS there and the entire store is on lockdown because people just shoplifting 'cause they know they're not gonna go to jail for it. It's the exact same idea. We can solve the illegal gambling problem without legalizing the very behavior we're seeking to discourage. And that was Steve Marshall's whole point. I respect it when he came out and said this last session. Jumping topic quickly, it's gonna be interesting to see if we get a school choice expansion. I think, you know, it's quote, universal. Yeah, but is it funded universally? Are we gonna have enough applicants to the program to exceed the cap that they put on it? And I hope we do. I hope that people take advantage of this program. My children are not school aged yet. I've got a two year old and a one year old, but you know, maybe in a few years, they'll even be able to take advantage of what some of the income limits and other limitations roll off. But are we going to see the legislature move the dollar cap up on school choice in the next session or two? And I hope so. That's the answer I'm looking for. I hope that they will. And finally, another bill I wanna mention that I think would be terrible for the Republican Party in Alabama. It was filed by Representative Pettis just a couple of weeks ago. And it would disallow parties, political parties, in Alabama from controlling their own ballot access based on who their politicians took money from. So for instance, there's a Republican Party bylaw right now. I'm very familiar with it. I serve as bylaws chairman for the Republican Party and have for the last three and a half years. And the bylaw says that if you are a candidate for state school board or superintendent Alabama, you cannot take money from the AEA. It was viewed as a conflict of interest by the party and it was passed with about 70% of the vote at the state party meeting one year ago. Well, Representative Pettis is saying, "Look, we don't need the party telling people who you could take money from. Take the money and then let the voters decide whether or not it's inappropriate for you to take money from gambling interest or from AEA or from whoever." And that may sound good on the surface, especially the politicians. But then you have to ask, so wait a minute, the logical conclusion of this bill is if you had a candidate on the ballot for let's say governor and their entire campaign was funded by George Soros and Planned Parenthood and Russia, we couldn't remove them from the ballot. That's what this bill says. I mean, we could not remove them for any reason. If 100% of literally the Democrat Party itself could fund the entire campaign, all the money for the campaign for this Republican candidate for governor and we could not remove them from the ballot in this bill passes. - And I'm assuming that's being really dangerous. - That's being pushed by the AEA, that's gotta be where that's coming from. Am I, do we know? - I actually don't think the AEA has been, I think this was Philip Pettis' own idea. I don't think the AEA is really asking for this. - Interesting, 'cause I mean, they're the obvious beneficiary, right? 'Cause there's only, in my mind, there's only one group of people that's looking to potentially lose all power if the GOP stopped allowing people to take AEA money if they wanted to be on the ballot. There's, I mean, that to me seems like the, who would benefit most from that bill is gonna be the AEA, so they can continue to just give money to whoever they want, however they want and continue to influence Republican politics despite being the state level affiliate of the Godless Marxist National Education Association that wants to steal your kids and turn them into communists. But that's neither here nor there. - Well, I agree that they would be the beneficiary, but I don't think that they went to Philip Pettis and asked him to sponsor this. I think he came up with this idea on his own, probably because he's taken AEA money, and he's worried that in the future, the Republican Party might pass a bylaw that says that legislators themselves cannot take money from AEA, which there is absolutely no plans to do. If there were, I would know about it again. I'm bylaws chairman, it would go through my committee. That's not even being discussed. We, the party said no on the education races. That's it, end of story. We're not planning to do anything more, but on the flip side, the legislature also doesn't need to pass this bill. This bill would be terrible for the Republican Party going forward, because there is a brand, when you run as a Republican, people expect their candidates to be pro-life. They expect them to be, you know, for small government. There's just some basic expectations you have when you have an arbiter, someone's name on your ballot. And if we lose control of that, and the Democrat organizations can be funding our Republican candidates, then we cease to stand for anything at all. - Sure. No, and I mean, that's the key to a lot of what we're doing, is showing people who they voted for and what those people are actually doing, because every single political ad is the same in the state of Alabama, right? It's the guy with the shotgun over his shoulder, the John Deere tracker and the church table behind him. He's like, my name's Bill. I love Jesus babies and the Constitution. You're like, man, Bill loves Jesus babies. And the Constitution, I'm voting for Bill. And then Bill gets to Montgomery, and it turns out Bill does not love Jesus babies or the Constitution. And there's no way for you to know that, unless we were there reporting on it, right? And so I think that is why it's so important, which you just said, people can say there about whatever, but who they get money from. It's not foolproof, but majority of time, people where you get your money is gonna be what you do. And so I think that's spot on. And so trying to think let's get into, I think when we get it on the other side of this break, wanna jump into some of those national political things. Can you hang around for another segment, Andrew? Awesome. - Yeah, we have it, too. - All right, guys, this is the Jeff foreshow. We'll be back. ♪ Make a few tiny other chicks ♪ ♪ I hope you're old enough to understand ♪ ♪ The sun you don't have to fight to be a man ♪ ♪ There's someone for everyone ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ Spent my dollar ♪ ♪ Barking a holler needs a mountain moonlight ♪ ♪ Order up tight ♪ ♪ Make a little love in ♪ ♪ A little turn of love in on a mason dixon light ♪ ♪ It's my life ♪ ♪ Oh, it's all right ♪ ♪ My big sea light ♪ - All right, welcome back to the Jeff poor show. Brian Dawson filling in for Jeff poor. We are in the last hour here, guys. I'm enjoying myself, almost don't wanna leave, but I bet they make me at the end of the hour. So still have state auditor Andrew Sorrell on with me. And now after covering these local political topics, I wanna dive into kind of your perspective as someone who I think has very good instincts on seeing things you're much more analytical than me. I'm much more cultural, I see energy, I see movement, I see patterns, I see things like that on the cultural side. I think you're more of a numbers analytical data guy. Tell me kind of what you're seeing, obviously going on the heels of the Trump assassination and the convention, crazy energy going to the right. Then all of a sudden they take the least popular vice presidential candidate in the history of our nation, coordinate her, turn on the regime machine, and she's the liberal darling that's gonna save democracy. They did that literally flipped a switch. What do you see happening? What's your predictions? - There's been a big polling reversal. So Trump was up, let's say two points on Joe Biden a month ago. Now Trump is down two points nationally on Kamala Harris. But never fear, I predicted that this would happen on several radio shows and the prediction. Some people said I was crazy and I said, no, it's very easy to predict. Why is Trump ahead two points? Well, Joe Biden's incredibly unpopular, he's very old. Then he had a horrific debate performance, even his own party was calling for him to step aside so all the polls start moving our way. Then what happened? The Trump assassination attempt. Wow, nationwide sympathy for Trump. Somebody tried to literally take out the former president and our nominee. Then you had all the excitement. Who was Trump gonna pick for vice president? Okay, that was a big news story. Then we had the Republican convention. So you come off a solid month of basically a half billion dollars of free advertising for the Republicans and our nominee. And then it was at that moment I predicted, this is going to change. When they replaced Joe Biden with Kamala Harris, I said, give it a month and it'll be back the other way. Why? Because now all the coverage is, oh my goodness, Joe Biden, just resigned. Who's gonna be the nominee? Oh, it's Kamala. Oh, who's Kamala gonna pick for vice president? Oh, it's Tim Walls. And then what do we have coming up? I think next week, the Democrat National Convention. So now the Democrats have gotten all the coverage for a solid month. So what I tell everybody is completely ignore all of the polling from when Trump was ahead and when Kamala was ahead now, it doesn't matter yet. Where is the race on September 10th? That's what I wanna see. That's when we'll have some idea when all the excitement of the new nominee for the Democrats and everything is kind of worn down. We'll see where this race settles out with about two months to go. That'll give us a good indication of which way it might go. Do you think one of the things that I cannot stand is all of the, I call them black pillars. So you have white pill, which means you have hope. Black pill means you're just super negative. And, you know, the, like I'm as critical of Trump as anybody at the right time and now's not the time, right? Like, you know, we, I mean, I guess that there's like some political strategy stuff, whatever. But, you know, him, he came out and he questioned whether Kamala was black or not. And it's like, okay, well, this lady is, you know, his, her entire career has been Indian when it meant for her, you know, when being Indian was advantageous. And then she's, you know, now black, when being black is advantageous. Donald, like the reason that Donald Trump got elected in 2016 is because Donald Trump does those things. Everyone's like, you can't do that. You can't say that you can't. What do you think? Do you think that stuff really hurts him? Or is that just part of who he is and what, and why he's able to energize the GOP base like nobody else ever has since Reagan? - I think criticizing the Republican governor and Georgia, Brian Kemp, that probably hurts him. Brian Kemp's more popular than Trump is in Georgia. That's not smart. But as far as questioning whether Kamala is black, I actually don't think that's what he did. I think what he was saying was Kamala is just a chameleon. You will be Indian or she will be black, depending on who she's talking to. That's a fair hit and everybody knows it. I don't think that that hurts him a bit. But if you look at her vice presidential pick, Tim Walz, like where did that come from? Shapiro was the obviously superior pick. - I was forced to hear, but they couldn't pick Shapiro because he's a Jew. And there's so many pro-Palestinian people in the Democrat party right now, she could not get away with picking Shapiro even though it made better political sense. - Isn't she married to a Jewish guy too? I actually don't know that. - I think she is and again, so it's like, what if the Muslims find out about that? Is she gonna divorce her husband? (laughing) - Good question. - Crazy time to be alive, crazy time to be in politics. But I'm grateful for you, Andrew. You've been just a bulwark of stout, healthy conservatism. Thank you for spending some time with us. - Thanks for having me on. - Awesome. All right guys, we've got John Wall, the chairman of the Alabama Republican party after the break. You have poor show, we'll be back. ♪ When there was no ♪ ♪ Like a rhinestone cowboy ♪ ♪ Riding out on a horse that a star's playing the rodeo ♪ ♪ Like a rhinestone cowboy ♪ ♪ Getting caught and let a strong people I don't even know ♪ ♪ And awful's coming over the road ♪ ♪ Welcome back to the Jeff poor show ♪ The last half of the last hour. I don't know how that breaks down with fractions. But we are coming to an end here. We are waiting on the chairman of the Alabama Republican party, John Wall to be calling in. And so I'm just gonna monologue and entertain you with my excellent monologuing skills. Talking is something I do often and my wife probably wished I'd do a little bit less of, but anyway, here we are. So I wanna just go back to something I said earlier. I kinda talked about in 1890 news and going there and supporting us because we are citizens supported. That's one of the things that separates 1890 news from these other outlets that we have in our state. I say you've got Soros sponsored with AL.com. And then you've kinda got corporate sponsored with some of these other outlets in the state. And so essentially the left has their outlet, the lobbyists and corporations have theirs. And so we wanted to create an outlet for the people of Alabama, and that means that we have to be supported by the people of Alabama. So please, it is important that you guys support us if you're a qualified investor or someone of high net worth and would like to learn more about supporting us. Reach out, I'd love to talk to you. So we've got chairman John Wall on now. He's on the line. John, thank you so much for joining us and showing up fashionably late to your radio appearance. - Yeah, sir, well, unfortunately, the life of the chairman, I'm on the road, but it's always good to be on the show. - Yes, yes, yes, yes. And I pictured as it was 1133 and you hadn't called. He is on another phone call because I've been with John and John is on the phone as often as I am on the phone. And so I knew that it wouldn't be long and you would be joining us. So I just did an 1819 commercial because I'm a salesman and that's what I do. - No, that's right, never missing a good opportunity, right? - That's right, I'm an opportunist. (laughs) Well, John, it is a, and just real quick, if you guys don't know who I'm sure you do, I think he's a regular on the show and on the station, but John Wall is the chairman of the Alabama Republican Party. He has done a phenomenal job with the party. Again, thinking about what it is that the chairman does, looking at what he's done, he got Ron DeSantis to Alabama. He got Trump to Alabama, not once but twice, right? Coleman and then the event last year. Then you got a debate in Alabama and then what you just pulled off at the RNC, that experience was an experience of a lifetime and a lot of the greatness of that experience was that we were there with Alabama and the work that you guys did. So kudos to you all the way around for the work that you've been doing. - Well, I appreciate you saying that. For me, there's three things that I always try to prioritize as a chairman. And the first is raising Alabama's profile. Like, I'm biased, but I believe that we've got the best people in the entire country here in Alabama. I love Alabama, I love to see a stupid credit that I think we deserve. But then secondly, what good is the Republican party? What good are we, if it's just the name? And then, me, it's really about policy and I love being involved in the policy discussions, you know, another big convention over into the policy thinkers from across the country. And being involved in that, you know, what makes the policy, what helps the people of America have a better life because it really is what we stand for that makes a difference. So it will fall for anything. And we just go wherever, the polls it or whatever, then we're not solved, we're not like. And it's important that we stay grounded in the constitution, to be grounded in the principles that made America great. That is a liberty to freedom and really standing up for people. And then of course, the third thing is helping Republicans get elected. So I appreciate your kind words. I think that's my goal. So I always appreciate it when someone looking for the outside thinks I'm doing a good job. Sometimes when you're on the inside, you're just trying to keep your head up of the water. - Sure. And I am not one who hands out compliments that aren't earned. I make it, live in criticizing people. So if you're getting compliments from me, they're probably well deserved. Well, John, we're, I'm sitting in Mobile. I don't know exactly how they diced it up when they screwed up the entire second congressional district making Jerry and Barry show, the Jerry Barry showdown, that happening completely unnecessary, it was horrible. And now we've got Caroline versus Shamari figures. And so I don't know which way that Mobile is diced up and where I'm sitting, but very close to here for sure. There's going to be a decision made on who's going to represent that second congressional district. Could you give us an update on that from the ALGOP perspective? - Yeah, no, absolutely. First thing is I think you hit a very important issue for us to all realize and really hopefully be able to communicate down the road, which is this is exactly the situation in Alabama and in CD2 is exactly why the founders and the framers of the constitution left to redistribute up to the states, up to the state legislature. Because those members of the elected representatives of the people of Alabama, they know their districts, they know their area. And in this case, they know their communities of interest. And we saw just, you know, the coastal area, just got it as a literalistic community of interest just split them into. I think that's the tragedy of this is when we don't follow the constitution, we don't realize why our founding fathers set those things up the way they do. The victims and the unintended consequences are the people. And in this case, the people of Mobile County and the people of the coastal region. But dealing with this, you know, obviously something's thrown into our last, we did not want or we're not expecting, but it has put Alabama on the front lines of defending holding the U.S. House of Representatives. And I think it's so important that we realize that it's important this race is, it is winnable. It is not easy though. The federal courts did create this district to be a Democrat district, and there's no way to shoot it with that. I think what they forgot was they made a false assumption that all African Americans vote Democrats, vote Democrats, and that is not the case. You know, our latest polling has minorities going about between 12 to 15% for Republicans. If that trend continues, I think we have a very good shot at CD2. The latest polling has nearly gotten down by a couple points. I think that is make-up-able in the next three months, and I think we have a very real shot at CD2. What polling is showing her down by two points? Is that your guys' internal polling? Is it... So that is not our internal polling. This is actually something done more recently. Our internal polling had her down. This was a couple weeks ago, had her down by about three, three and a half. Okay. So this actually, actually, I mean both within the margin of error, this is potentially, actually, you know, with anything that shows her taking slightly up. But this was done by independent pollster and released by the super PAC. Okay. Well, it is very strange that reliably read Alabama, maybe the, you know, District 2 may be the difference if Trump wins the White House and the Senate is whether or not there's a super majority in the House, that could be the difference here right here in Alabama. And again, it just shows the level at which these people are willing to go to steal, lie, cheat, destroy, to get their agenda. I mean, we were literally just punked in strongarm. Like, I don't know, I'm gonna take a wild yes, John, and say that you've never seen the movie Friday. - That is correct. - Okay. Well, in the movie Friday, everyone listening has seen it. There's a guy named Debo, and he just goes up and punks people, and he's like, that's my bike. And he takes the bike. We were Deboed into the second congressional district. That's my district, and they just took it. That's what happened, okay? We were punked, we were Deboed. And now we're in this position where, you know, literally the future of the country rests on this, you know, this congressional district. And so it's, I don't know, it's crazy. It's crazy to watch how all this stuff goes. And anyway, but certainly a lot more going on across the country and the things that go ahead. - Yeah, I was gonna say, let me interject. You're absolutely right. And look, this is classic from the Democrats. Republicans believe in the rule of law. We believe in the constitution. We believe in the, you know, the principles, the way our government said that we don't try to use the power of government as a political weapon. The Democrats are the state opposite. They thrive, the idea of all powerful government that inserts and forces their will, not just on the people, but into the political arena. And that's what we saw here, you know, it's not just against Donald Trump, you know, with the weaponization of the justice system or the FBI. It's also their political agenda in other areas, which includes using the court system to force new districts or the redistricting process in other states with redistricting conditions. And the bottom line is redistricting was not good for Republicans because Democrats have figured out a way to try to weigh the scales in their direction through redistricting and I think that's the battle we're in, unfortunately. And yes, we are, we were handed it down, forced on us by a federal court that in my opinion was not really looking at what was best for the people of Alabama, but fulfilling a political agenda by the Democrats. No way, they don't do that, John. - Right, I think you're serious, you can't survive. (laughing) Hey, I will say the recipe back, the recipe to stop this is for the people, we the people to stand up and take out. - Yep. - And I encourage everyone out there listening, it's so important that you vote at the forum for land. I know, look, if you're listening to talk radio, you're already gonna vote more likely. Remind your friends and family, make sure people get out there to cycle. It's so important. And if you have people in your life, maybe in your church, maybe in a civic group that aren't registered to vote, make sure they get registered to vote. This is still important. It's the presidential election, but also the CD2 race, freedom itself is on the ballot this November and we need every person out there. - Yep, yeah. And last point on that before we move on, it was really interesting that the special master, he said that map right there, that Alabama does racist, so we're gonna fix it by making it super racist. But anyway, so. - So look, that super master, they said the civil rights movement was all about not looking at people facing the color of their skin. And that's what the Republican Party believe if we've been consistent all the way back to the 1800s, standing against slavery. You know, we don't believe in looking at people facing the color of their skin. That's why we fought against slavery. That's why we fought with the civil rights movement. But this changed that court decision and redrawn the district, it did look at the color of people's skin. It wanted racism. And we still are the consistent ones to say, "No, we don't look at people facing the color of our skin. We believe all people are individually vaccinated in equal mighty God." - No, that's really good. So this always gets people like right up on the edge of a break. Can you stick around for another segment? We're not gonna end right now, but I just wanna make sure that you can, so I know what we need to cover here. - Sure, no, I'm glad to stick around. - Okay, good. So really just getting continued to pontificate about the craziness of that, that it could be what was once a reliably red district that belonged to Barry Moore, who is now going to be the congressman of the first district because they squared off Jerry versus Barry in that whole entire thing. It's madness and there's nothing these people won't do to gain power if you have not woken up to the fact that there's literally nothing these people won't do to take power. I put my tin foil hat on and tell you that they let out a virus that killed tens of millions of people in 2020 to make sure that Trump wasn't the president. They've shot him in the head this go round to make sure that he's not trying to make sure that he's not president. There's nothing they won't do to achieve power. So if you're not awake to that, you need to wake up. All right, we've got John Wall on the other side of the break. This is Jeff Porsche, we'll be back. (upbeat music) ♪ To larger that portal wouldn't be ♪ ♪ Have a good time ♪ ♪ And then one day you will the customer ♪ ♪ Walk the Indian way ♪ ♪ Eat the girls ♪ ♪ Then it crashes south of Nashville ♪ ♪ And it turned that car around ♪ ♪ He said, this is where you get off boy ♪ ♪ 'Cause I'm going back to Alabama ♪ ♪ As I stepped out of that Cadillac ♪ ♪ I said, Mr. Minifang's ♪ ♪ He said, you don't have to call me Mr. Mr. ♪ ♪ The whole world called behind ♪ - Welcome back to the Jeff Porsche show. I was just gonna let that song play through 'cause you don't interrupt Hank, you know, when he's slowing down. And so I didn't, but here it is the final segment of this three hours I get to spend with you guys. And we're gonna be finishing it out strong with Chairman John Wall. - John, I think, and there's a million things we could talk about that's going on. I think one of the most things that's most pertinent, I don't know how you would fit into this, but I would love to hear your opinion, if nothing else, about the fact that Alabama, a place where you would not expect this to be happening, is now getting planes and buses full of Haitian migrants, you know, being shipped to multiple locations in the state, Athens, Albertville, and others. What are your thoughts there? - Well, I mean, obviously this is something that is very much of my radar, because I am a limestone County Neda in Athens, my County seat. So I am very, very aware of what went on. And I'll tell you, it brings up a good question. I think you just, Bobby, you would not think Alabama would be at the center of this, but look, every state is now a border state. We see the, you know, we've seen the Biden administration, busing, and flying migrants into all over the country. There's been, you know, I think that a few months ago, where there were some planes being thrown into Tuscaloosa. And I think just, this highlights the importance for us as a country, and definitely for us as I've already talked about it, to understand what's going on here. This is a purposeful and intentional plan by the Democrats to change our society. You know, there's been a shift even in my life span, where it used to be that, you know, immigrants, illegal immigrants coming across the border, they genuinely wanted to work. They genuinely wanted to come here. They wanted to work. They wanted to send money back home, and they were probably going home at some point themselves. That has changed. And the Biden administration are welcoming in people who don't want to work, who want to get on our welfare system, who want to get money from the American economy, and really be effective and change who of what America is. And I think that's the most concerning thing for me is I watch this across the country. We have a situation where the American people know the dangers that come with illegal immigration. They know that it increases human trafficking, drugs coming across the border. The open border policies of Biden administration have been a complete disaster. And it didn't have to be. Under the presidency of Donald Trump, the border was far more secure. And literally, in Biden's first few months, his presidency reversed those things and opened the border. And I know Kamala Harris is trying to run from that now, but this goes weirdly onto the Democrat leadership in the White House right now, and that is not just Joe Biden, it's also Kamala Harris, as his borders are, and the person he was charged of literally opening the southern border and creating these prices. - Yeah, she is the borders are, and that was in the talking points. We're gonna call J.D. Vance weird. And Kamala Harris wasn't the borders are. I don't know if you saw those DNC talking points that were handed out to all the media to be repeated in ad fin item. But yeah, I'll give AL.com something to write about me. Sometimes they like to write about me. I do think it's bigger than Democrats. - DQ, by the way, then, that's a matter of honor. - Yes. - Correct, but everybody thinks that it's about getting votes. And I do think they're opening up the borders so that they can make some attempt to get more votes. There's a hundred percent, that's part of it. But they say the great replacement theory, right? And when people say that, they think, okay, they're trying to bring in migrants to replace white Americans. And I do think that's a part of it. But I'm saying replacement theory as heritage Americans, which should be black Americans, white Americans, Americans who have been here, whose forefathers built this land, who lay claim to this nation, they're trying to replace them, no matter what ethnicity or background we have, we have heritage America that's trying to be replaced by this other people. They want chaos. They don't want order. They know that they thrive when they're basically the ones that are the ministers of chaos, bringing it in. But it is interesting since Donald Trump is not the incumbent. I don't think we're gonna see cities burning and all the other stuff like we did. Everything's gonna be hidden. It's not gonna be on full display. What do you think about that? - No, I agree, I agree. And but look, this is a classic government tactic for forever. Government creates a crisis. - Yep. - And then the answer to that crisis is more government. - Yep. - And that is exactly what we're seeing on the Southern border right now. Government has created an open border system, the Biden administration, all the Harris, that has led to increase over doses for drugs. It's even trafficking, and we all know it is a crisis. And the answer to that, increased crime, increased drug overdose is always bigger government. And so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. They create the problems and then they have to solve. And the answer to this, freedom, pure and simple, the American dream, the fiction of our founding fathers. And I think that is what we have to communicate this relationship like. - Yep. No, I think you're right. Well, John, thank you so much for taking the time to join us. Always grateful to have you on, grateful to talk to you. And you're doing a great job. Thank you, sir. - Always good to be on the show. I appreciate it. - Awesome. All right, well, we are wrapping up the show here, guys. Thank you so much for spending the last three hours with me. Jeff will be back tomorrow. And the next time he's out of town, I'll be back down here to talk to you guys again. So maybe next time I'll get a couple days, I stay pretty busy traveling all over the place. So, you know, I'm glad I got to spend these three hours with you guys and Godspeed. [MUSIC PLAYING] ♪ Setting all the things I wish I'd done ♪ ♪ Over the last five hours, the hardest one to save ♪ ♪ This is where the caribou are out the way ♪ ♪ Overlastin' miles, the hardest one to save ♪ ♪ This is where the caribou are out the way ♪ [MUSIC PLAYING] (upbeat music)