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Sweet Home Cannabama 8-12-24 guest Steve Sarich and the recreational weed scam
It's time for Sweet Home, Cannabema, a show that will answer all your questions, provide accurate information, and dispel the myths of cannabis, and have your specific questions answered by emailing jennifer@cannabema.com. Or ticks are called 3430106. And now, for all things cannabis in Alabama, here's your host, Jennifer Buser. Founder and founder of Cannabema in Downtown Mobile. We are located at 558 St. Francis Street. Our phone number is 251-255-5155. You can reach us on our website at cannabema.com. And of course, on social media, look for Sweet Home, Cannabema on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube. And I think we now have a TikTok page. So give us a call, come see us, check out our website, maybe buy a little something. And share the show. We're here to try to bring awareness to the issues that are affecting the cannabis industry, both on the medical marijuana side, as well as the hemp industry. And we want to make sure to get this information to as many people as possible. Tonight, we have a special guest I want to go ahead and bring in. He's calling in from Thailand. We're hoping that we're not going to have any technical issues. We were great. We had a phone call for an hour and a half the other night and nothing happened. So hopefully, we'll have a good connection. But I want to welcome to the show tonight, Steve. Sarah, Steve is an industry OG. That's how everybody describes him as an OG. He's currently living in Thailand. And he is bringing the wonders of hemp to Thailand, Africa, and Asia. Welcome to the show, Steve. Alright, well, welcome to the show. I wanted to bring you on, so I have some current events, things that are happening around the country. And I brought you on to tell us why these things are happening. But before we talk about why we need to talk about the what. And so I want to get into that. And if you want to chime in and help me out anywhere, I'm sure you have lots to say we've had these conversations already. But first, I want to talk about what is happening right here in Alabama. Throw hemp, who I know most of my regular listeners have heard me talk about since early this year, they actually won the lawsuit that they had to file against the Alabama Department of Health when they issued a cease and desist, not based on any kind of Alabama state law that edibles and drinks were, that were infused or not legal in Alabama, and anyone producing them or selling them was breaking the law. And so they actually won their case. We knew they would, because the state had no case on merit. And it was not based in Alabama state law, and the federal law supersedes the state health department's sudden need to create a regulation out of thin air. And they know they would never win on appeal, but because again, they've appealed now and they want to go back into court. Throw hemp won, the state's not satisfied even though I can't imagine what their argument for appeal would be, and we haven't seen that yet. But they were given 30 days to respond to that, and they want to keep dragging it through the courts. And we all know, borrow hemp situation, they have been absolutely bankrupted by this process. And there was never a chance that the state was going to win, there's still no chance. The state is counting on the fact that they will run out of money and have to give up. And they will win by default, and their plan is to take that default precedent and come after the rest of us. And we know that several other state health departments are looking to Alabama to do the same thing, just like all the governors in the country are now looking at what Missouri is doing. So it's an abuse of power. We know our attorney general is very much anti- cannabis, anything. And so, you know, he's the highest lawyer in the land here. And I just don't understand why they picked on one company. They have never explained why they only came after one company as if it were a public safety issue. That's the big, a cool term now for legislators, it's public safety. And if that was such a public safety issue that they would need to shut down this company, then why did the rest of us in the entire state get to go on? It's been two years since they started this. The rest of us have been operating just business as usual, making and selling these same products. And none of us have even been contacted. I didn't even know it was happening for almost a year, you know? And so, it's none of it makes sense, but they are going to have to continue to go forward in court. We're asking that people would, again, consider giving a donation because the only reason that they can't just shut the state down is because they keep dragging them through the courts and they're out of money. And it's a nasty abuse of power. And then we've got Missouri. Let's talk about Missouri. I know some of our friends from Missouri are watching tonight. We got information from the Missouri Hump Trade Association. Very much appreciate their health on this. But it's the same basic thing, just like in Alabama with the health department and a cease and desist, Missouri's governor decided to issue an executive order. And the more I read about this situation, the more lunatic it sounds because it's only businesses that have a liquor license or serve food. But then they're telling people they can't actually make the products. And then they're telling the public, "Well, you can still order these products from outside of Missouri." So it's like they actually have a bone to pick and they're not trying to hide it with these Missouri processors and retail businesses because none of that even makes sense. And again, it's super, you know, the federal law supersedes the situation. We have a news clip that was given to us by the Missouri Hump Trade Association. And we want to play that clip for you right now. Take a listen. Or not. Well, Hump made products that mimic marijuana. Public safety officials say these products are dangerous because they're not regulated by the state or federal government. Missouri Capitol Bureau Chief Joe McLean hears from retail. Tonight, Missouri Hump retailers are exploring legal options ahead of an executive order that takes effect at the end of the month that order restricts the sale of hemp-made products that mimic marijuana. Public safety officials say these products are dangerous because they're not regulated by the state or federal government. Missouri Capitol Bureau Chief Joe McLean hears from retailers who are demanding answers. The problem these retailers have is not with regulation. In fact, most of them regulate themselves already. And they've been pleading with the state to do the same, to crack down on bad actors. Instead, this order actually just bans the sale of these products altogether. John Grady co-owns Slap Happy Hump Company in Herman, Missouri, wearing hemp overalls and standing under a hemp American flag, John and his wife grow all the plants and show their customers everything that's in them, down to the chemical level. We grow organically. We test our crop for compliance with the USDA. Then we further test our crop when we have it made into an extract. And then from that extract, when we make a final product, we test that product as well. So we have all the same testing. Actually, we do a little bit more stringent panel testing than what's required of the marijuana industry right now. Still, in three weeks, they'll have to stop selling the hemp-infused drinks they offer. A recent executive order means starting September 1, any Missouri business with a liquor license could lose it if it's caught selling hemp-made marijuana products. Also, the sale of hemp-infused food and drinks will no longer be allowed in Missouri. State Public Safety Director Sandy Karsten said, "While retailers might test their own products for safety, there's no independent safeguard." "These are completely unregulated psychoactive cannabis products. They're not tested and they are sold without any restrictions whatsoever." That, state officials say, creates a hazard for consumers. But John Grady says the answer to an unregulated market should be regulations, not banning sales. "It's going to stop businesses, small businesses, Missouri businesses. It's going to allow the online businesses to proliferate through Missouri so you'll see it more there, not tested. It's not going to have an agency working to actually create regulations." Grady said he expects the state to restrict the market even more in the coming months. The order does allow hemp-made marijuana to be sold if it comes from a state-approved source. "The Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services, when such an approval system will be established, we haven't heard back as of this recording." In Jefferson City, Joe McLean, first of all, heard four. "Alright, so just like in Alabama, this executive order was given and now these businesses all over the state of Missouri are forced to sue. And it's just this is what's happening. They cannot get legislators to do what they want in that state. So somebody in power probably gets paid. Why am I saying probably? And they cause some problems that these people have no other way to respond but to sue. And we all know when you figure out you're going to need to sue somebody, you're already in trouble. These people are small businesses. We all are just trying to feed our families. And now they've got to consider that 100,000, 200,000, borrow hemp spent over 300,000. And there was no basis in fact or law. They just could. And this is the trend. If they can't get a law passed, now they're going to use all these different agencies and abuse them to set precedent. When we come back, we're going to talk more with Steve Sarridge. Welcome back to Sweet Home, Canabema. Now with all the information you want about cannabis, here's your host, Jennifer Buser. Welcome back everybody. You're listening to Sweet Home, Canabema here every Monday night at 7 o'clock right here on FM Talk 1065 and also live streamed from the Sweet Home, Canabema pages on Facebook and Instagram. If you're watching and new to the show or listening and new to the show, we welcome you. All roads lead back to here because we were the first business in Alabama to sell a retail business to sell cannabis in this state. And we have always prided ourselves on teaching the people what they need to know. And right now instead of being able to teach people how to use the products and how to better their lives, we're stuck on these corrupt abuses of power in states all over the country. We were just talking about Boro hemp in Alabama and the Missouri Hemp Trade Association. We have QR codes up. If you feel led to donate to either one of these causes or both, it doesn't matter how small it is. We're all contributing. We're contributing by doing this show and talking about it. That's our contribution and we hope that you will feel led to help these people. They're just like me. They're just like us in this room. We're all hardworking Americans who just want to have a decent life and feed our children. And these abuses of power are happening to us in the tens of thousands at this point because so many states hemp programs are now under attack. Steve, are you there with us? I would like for us to talk about. I can hear you. We're going to turn you up as loud as we can. Thank you so much. Steve is here with us from Thailand. And, you know, we've had a lot of conversations this week and I kind of just want to ask you to tell us, you know, now that we know what's happening, can you give us any idea about why you believe this is happening? Because it makes no sense. Well, can you hear me wrong? I can. I can. Okay. So, this is the story that we'll explain all of this. As you know, all the garks of the world, pharmacy, the industry, and the hound, all the prohibition. And they have pretty good control prohibition and some medical cannabis thing along because it's very, very difficult from a legal standpoint to keep medicine out of people's hands. Right. So, all of a sudden, we have medical cannabis popping up all over the country. And that was a problem for them, but then in 2008, they were sort of switching up because not only the medical cannabis, but also now you have legal help. Right. I think I hope we all know who George Soros is. That's a, that's a pretty big name. Well, I think, but he's like an original about it, you know, that's not a solid time, he, he admits to be working for analysis, or to write on who is the largest funder of the world economic one. He's always river was a spunder. I live in a car party. So, if you wonder why the democratic party is not on the side of, or may it be that they're not on the side of medical cannabis or hemp, that's where, because that's where the money is coming. I always, always follow the money. Yeah. Yeah, I was in Washington at the time, I, I was a leader in the medical cannabis community here. And so, because I understood the politics today, I knew that what they were doing is not legalized. In fact, nothing in those lives, absolutely were legalizations in them at all. Right. So that appears to be legalization, but what you're saying is, it doesn't actually legalize anything. No, it doesn't, but it did, but it didn't allow the state to set up their own, their own cannabis resources licensing, and, and so, and I, I was, you know, I'm a company musician of having to run the know on high five, like the campaign. So basically, it was very obvious to me that what they were trying to do is kill medical cannabis in the state of Washington, something we have for 20 years. And at that point, we have a 15-minute distinction and patients are getting great check in the state of Washington, right, and, and, but then they were also trying, and, and, and they're just patiently trying to act, they have a 35-minute talk in a, so, I think we're, we're the, the Democratic Party of Washington state was always the biggest impediment to medical cannabis. Always. Really. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Yes. Can you please move your mic closer to your mouth? Really having trouble hearing you? I mean, sorry, your phone. >> Okay. Is that any better? >> A little bit. Okay. Let's keep going. I'm sorry. It's so hard. We were -- something you were saying at the end there. I want you to repeat whatever the last thing you said was, if you can, because it was breaking up pretty badly. >> I just had to call the audio problem. >> Okay. [inaudible] >> I'm sorry, Steve. I'm sorry, Steve. You're breaking up so badly. We can't quite understand what you're saying. And I'm trying to make it out, but I'm having a hard time. We might need to try to hang up and call us right back and see if we can get a better connection. And this has never happened to me before, so we really appreciate some patience from my listening audience and the ones watching my face turn seven shades of red, because this was not in my notes. >> I know that Steve is trying to explain that this has been done by design since 2008, and there's a lot of money involved, and it's easier to buy a state level legislator than it is to buy a U.S. congressman or senator and sway those federal votes. And that's one of the reasons why no one is willing to federally legalize it, because if they leave it in the states, then just like what's going on with their use of the court system and random orders to stomp out the hemp industry, they want to be able to control the cannabis industry. And these are basically like Marty likes to say, state-run cartels, if the government is only picking and choosing a handful of people to get licenses instead of opening it up to anyone who has the money, the time and the innovation and the drive to do it like any other industry, you know, then it's a cartel, you know, that's how it works. The family chooses who gets to run this and who gets to run that, and the trickle down is that the state controls everything, and then those people. I'm sorry. Oh, I'm not sure what's happening now. Yes, please, let's do that. We're going to go to a commercial break in just a minute, and we're just going to try again for the third segment. But that's basically the gist of what Steve was saying, just a minute ago for those of you who didn't quite understand, is that it is easier to manipulate it on a state level, and then it is on a federal level, and that's why it's kept in the states. Steve, if I'm wrong, and you can hear me, or Marty, if I'm wrong, and you can hear me correct me, but I'm trying to put the bits of pieces together. Yes. Well, I think so. We're going to have to go to a break, Steve, and we're going to figure this out on the break. Just give us a few minutes. Guys, normally we're here on Monday nights and we make some sort of some sort of sense, but we're having some technical difficulties. We are going to get this message out though. This is. We're going to be right back and we're going to get this message out. You just stay right here with me. Welcome back to Sweet Home, Canabema. Now with all the information you want about cannabis, here's your host, Jennifer Buser. Welcome back everybody. You're listening to Sweet Home, Canabema right here on FM Talk, 106-5 every Monday night at 7 o'clock, and we are just having the weirdest, craziest, funnest show tonight. And you can see all of my expressions. I'm not used to that. Also, when I ran to the ladies room and I was praying, my microphone was on and they could hear me. So, they heard my talk with Jesus about being able to hear this. That's how much this means to me, y'all. Now, let's be serious and give Steve the respect he deserves because it is 7 a.m. Steve, I'm so sorry. Let's go back a little bit and just pick a starting point and we're going to listen to you because this is too important. Let's go back for just a second. I don't think it's going to be a lot more aware of why the pharma can't have something called medical cannabis. Canabyloids don't work as single-blockings. And a single-blockings is they can't have patents on drugs. All of these are like their sendable functions. So THC, CD, all of those habits don't just play the role of what they did in the book, so it's called the answer I should go. So they can't work with medical cannabis. Again, it wasn't a problem, so much more than just a harmful medical cannabis state. But that's why it started doing it. And then the hemp industry, everybody started making CBD, they can't compete with CBD. Nope. It's coming from the hemp industry. It's affordable. I know a lot. It's a nice way to be used to be using a full spectrum of CBD. It's going to work better than anything that the pharmaceutical industry can possibly make for convenience. Only the only medication per body FDA is up with dialects, and a one-year prescription for methadylinine, which costs you in the name of 30,000, 500,000. But the insurance department was divided really good, almost from CBD for 30, 40, 50 dollars from the hemp industry. So what they did was... They went to the recreational marijuana people. Yep, yep, we're trying. Keep going. Okay. So, he went to the... So, church souls created the recreational marijuana industry. Okay. He paid for the initiative that was not lost. I don't want to be there because of people who had a lot of medication in their health licenses. And he provided them with funding. Still, and they weren't missing a lot of money because what the tax structure of the creation of marijuana, in particular, was 45%. If you're... Right. 45%. Yeah. They could not take a lot of real business to take a production for their employees and the cops, well, they couldn't do that. So it wasn't possible for them to make things that they do. They knew they weren't going to be able to make any money from the greedy people. So, I've got to... Right. So, a lot of people were people, and there was really a lot of people, but some of them got into it really. They did it in some dollars. Right. So, now, all the sudden, now, all the sudden, you've got politicians from medical centers, which saved them off. Now, you can have everybody in their brother able to sell. They used to... Yep. That was a story of two students in the article from Colorado about the objective just of trying out to watch the exchange. Right. So, they were never on the side of a lot of people on the side of keeping the business and taking time to actually realize they're a lot of shit there with the goal. Right. So that was never a fucking hell of a goal. And so they spoke about it. And the choice of this plan was to use those mean there a lot of people to go out and put medical cannabis on a business. So, despite their promise to this, two years ago, the question was, "What happened then?" They used to go close by a lot of people. Right. And they put it on that. They put it down in medical box, marijuana, all three of those. Right. Right. So, then what they did, they mentioned that marijuana is just an issue. Well, you guys don't have to give me a statement at immigration marijuana. A couple of those people, they're making a lot of money in CBD. One way, one way in the government, and one way to make sure that you get the money to get the sell. All the cannabinoids. Not the industry. Right. So, since then, she is hired to do that. Well, obviously, essentially. So, a lot of things. They think they're competition in the industry. A lot of people do have to stay in the industry at the time. Right. Well, let me ask you this. I'm going to put the point in the federal level. They are. Let me ask you this. Do you have an opinion on why would they, why would they let us have hemp in the first place if they were just going to come back after we, I mean, we knocks it out of the park. You know, I was on the front end of that wave. We did well. We did, we, on the whole, there are bad actors. Like Missouri trying to claim they're trying to prevent bad actors. There are a few. You don't ban a whole thing, a whole state because of a couple of bad guys. You know, but on the whole, we knocked it out of the park, we started with education. We made quality products. The competition of a free market made us innovative. We had to be at a higher standard than everyone else because that's where you have to compete when anybody can get in the game. And so we did it really well. I believe that medical, any kind of cannabis should be done that way in a free market. And it's what makes sense. It's almost like a grand experiment that they let him out of the bag and gave us this opportunity. And they must have thought we would fail. You know, they must have thought we would fail. Because why would they let this happen and then just sweep it all under the rug? Can you hear me? I can hear you. Yeah. Okay. Well, again, remember, it wasn't really any kind of a problem. Well, until 2009, 2010, when, when, um. Helped Steve shut up, but it was a concern for them. Right. They didn't care prior to that. Why would they? Well, of course. Why, why do you think in 2018? Because most of us hadn't seen it that early. That was California. That was Oregon, probably, but most of us didn't see it until 1718, 19. It started in Colorado. Okay. Yeah. But I mean, like, you know what I mean? If they had CBD back then, but they weren't really worried about it. I wonder why they would have started all this and let him have a shot. If they had no intention of letting it actually be. That's like, it's almost like a really sick, bait and switch. It's hard to argue with growing a hemp. And they couldn't really go. They couldn't really argue. Oh, well, we can't have. We don't want competition on them. Right. So it was only, it's only when they, when they were started making a lot of money. That they started really concerning them. And you understand, all of a sudden, since 1930s, but it's been a stranglehold. And all of a sudden, you're getting legislative. You've got medical marijuana. The hemp people selling CBD. And now plan is we need to go back to the old system where, where the medical industry, the pharmaceutical industry controls all can have them. Because the only way they can be competitive. Right. They cannot have products that are going to work better. A thousand of the things. Right. So how do we get rid of that? Well, it's a hard time to legislate away. Okay. There's still an hard time. They're still trying to stuff. They're not trying to do the whole hemp industry. Right. The consumable product that people like to use is medicine that would interfere with the pharmaceutical industry. And alcohol and cigarettes and all those industries that love us so much. They don't want to get rid of fiber and they don't want to get rid of hempcrete. They just want to get rid of what we put in our bodies and on our bodies that makes us feel better. And less dependent on pharmaceuticals. Okay. So the plan is then, when we developed 2008, it was just to get rid of medical and CBD. It was to make it so that only one of those companies had trouble with eating ingredients. Right. Okay. So they, they weren't really stopping. So you have to buy the realized marijuana because it's a pretty good argument. There's a very good article, but no really good legal arguments. Okay. Let me, let me stop you right there on, on that. And let me stop you right there. We have to go to another commercial break. Now that we're on a roll and everybody's flowing, we'll be right back. We're going to finish out with Steve Sarich and talk about why this is happening. Stay with us. And we'll be right back. Welcome back to Sweet Home, Canabema. Now with all the information you want about cannabis, here's your host, Jennifer Boozer. Welcome back to the show everybody. I'm your host, Jennifer Boozer, owner and founder of Canabema in downtown Mobile. We're located at 558 St. Francis Street in downtown. Our phone number is 251-255-5155 and we are at canabema.com. Sweet Home, Canabema on Instagram and Facebook. We're talking tonight with Steve Sarich calling in from Thailand. He is an OG in the industry and bringing the wonders of him to Thailand, Africa and Asia. He has been watching and observing and experiencing all of these things long before most of us were here. And so Steve, I want to pick back up. You were talking before about something comparing two things. Why don't we pick up there? Okay, so I'll turn this off. These are the same people that are watching the calls. These are some of the most evil people in the group and they plan well. Right. So what we're talking about is the people who attack people and attack medical and get rid of those two things. But the third part of the panel that the recreation panel of these engineers today was they were going to be next to the best. Because once you can get rid of the best, you can get rid of the CDD. Right. So how do you do that? Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. So that's what's happening right now. So all of these bills come from the state and federal legislation is all being picked up by Joe and so. It's being flooded by the marijuana. Right. So wait, let me see if I'm hearing you correctly because it's being funded by this person. We all know who he is. And these marijuana, the people that are in the medical industry and even in the recreational side are being dangled. These licenses and this ability to do something and they're being so greedy about it that they only want to be a few of them. And that is their ultimate downfall because when they rescheduled, then all of them will be booted out. Right. Yeah, but all of them, all of them, because he's a pretty much legal man. Right. If you've met these people, all of these people, these are the people willing to put up $5 million for a recreational. Right. Okay. They're being sold for sorrows. And that is the funding they got. They used to record them. Right. So they're willing to go to bat with their own money and they're willing to go to bat with their own reputations and do things that are backhanded and probably illegal because they've been told you're protected. Is that what you're saying? Right. Right. And I'm sure, I mean, if that tracks, I mean, I'm sure that he's had to pony up a little proof every once in a while and must have been willing to do that to the extent that these people are now. It's almost like we were all this one big group of people trying to push this giant rock up a hill. And then now we're, half of us are turning on the others and eating, eating them in hell. Like, how, how, how, I thought we were trying to push the rock up a hill together. And then one thing. One thing I want to think about, what's it about? Oh, really? Oh, really. So. Okay. Wow. Well, it's the same, it's the same reason we believe, you know, there are some people that believe that, that all doctors are just benevolent and they only want to help people and that's all they ever care about. But the reality is it's a business, no more than doctors are concerned at the end of the day about whether or not you are a drug addict now or you lost your vision because they didn't tell you to eat right instead of giving you insulin. And they don't care. As long as you're coming in and giving them money, they don't care. It's the same thing. The medical profession has been approached as a patient. And it was not the same. It's the perspective that staying two years away from your friends, but it was the worst thing. You would think, I mean, they tried to try to say that tons of the people died from COVID and we never really saw any evidence of that. And I guess it in far fetched to think that they could sort of smoke and mirrors their way through that kind of a body count from the vaccine. Well, I know I'm saying that they would that they would go to that link also to conceal a body count as much as they would go to great links to inflate a body count to put fear into citizens so they will go get it. It's just as reasonable to think that they would then downplay what the numbers are in consequences. Do you know what the nature process is for the W.E.F.? No. All of these are like what people say and they're willing to put in it. Well, what better way to do something out of the vaccine than at all. Right. Okay. Yeah. This is now official policy. Okay, Steve. I'm so sorry to have to cut you off at the end of the show, but we have about a minute ago and there's so much more that we could get into on this. I appreciate your time and thank you for joining us for Thailand and helping us to understand some of these things. We want to thank the Missouri Hemp Trade Association for their information and borrow help and know that we're praying and fighting for you all here at Sweet Home, Canada, just like we do all the time when our friends are in trouble and they have a need. And we try to help. We do the best we can and we hope that those people then come running when we need help. And I do believe that this is that time. But yes, thank you so much, Steve, for being on the show. Thanks. All right, guys, you can find us every Monday night. Like we said, it's seven o'clock right here on FM Talk 1065. We thank you for being with us tonight. If you have any suggestions or questions, you can email me, Jennifer at cannebema.com. And until then, we will see you next week on Sweet Home, Canada. And thanks for hanging in there with me. This has been a tongue tying. Weird show, but thanks for hanging in there with me, guys. Good night. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] (upbeat music) [MUSIC PLAYING]