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Shane Baz Is Back in the Rays' Rotation & Finding the Next Hunter Brown

Eno and DVR discuss the busy long weekend in baseball including the return of Shane Baz to the Rays' rotation, the quietly productive season from Luis L. Ortiz, who now has an opportunity to start in Pittsburgh again, and the search for the 'next' Hunter Brown. Plus, they take a look back at where the money was spent in weekly leagues.

Rundown 3:10 Injury Updates 8:26 Ranking of ROS Impact of Currently IL'd Pitchers 16:53 Shane Baz Returns to the Rays' Rotation 22:37 Is Luis L. Ortiz Having a Breakout? 26:16 Can We Find Another Hunter Brown? 37:05 Yilber Diaz Getting a Look in Arizona 41:17 Where the Money Went: Brooks Lee & Yariel Rodriguez 51:37 A Splashy Bid From Eno 1:00:41 Spencer Arrighetti and 'The Line' for Pitching in 12-teamers

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Duration:
1h 9m
Broadcast on:
08 Jul 2024
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Eno and DVR discuss the busy long weekend in baseball including the return of Shane Baz to the Rays' rotation, the quietly productive season from Luis L. Ortiz, who now has an opportunity to start in Pittsburgh again, and the search for the 'next' Hunter Brown. Plus, they take a look back at where the money was spent in weekly leagues. 


Rundown

3:10 Injury Updates

8:26 Ranking of ROS Impact of Currently IL'd Pitchers

16:53 Shane Baz Returns to the Rays' Rotation

22:37 Is Luis L. Ortiz Having a Breakout?

26:16 Can We Find Another Hunter Brown?

37:05 Yilber Diaz Getting a Look in Arizona

41:17 Where the Money Went: Brooks Lee & Yariel Rodriguez

51:37 A Splashy Bid From Eno

1:00:41 Spencer Arrighetti and 'The Line' for Pitching in 12-teamers


Follow Eno on Twitter: @enosarris

Follow DVR on Twitter: @DerekVanRiper

e-mail: ratesandbarrels@gmail.com


Join our Discord: https://discord.gg/FyBa9f3wFe


Join us on Thursdays at 1p ET/10a PT for our livestream episodes!


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Dig into some news and notes from the long holiday weekend here in the States. We had the return of Shane Boz to the raise rotation. We'll talk about how he graded out in that first performance and whether or not we'd actually take the chance on Boz against the Yankees this week, which is not as simple of a question as it seems on the surface. We're going to take a look and see if we can find the next Hunter Brown. And by that, we mean someone who is not pitching well right now who could for a prolonged stretch pitch a lot better as Brown has recently. Take a look at where the money went this weekend and including a big splashy bid from Eno in his NFBC main event and we'll take a look at a couple of interesting drops time permitting as well. Eno hasn't gone for you on this Monday. That's good. We had the cousins in town from Hawaii and so it was a lot of boy stuff. We did laser max where I made sure to re-establish the record at the same Carlos laser max in the what is it like the pop a shot like the basketball arcade game. That's always my go-to there. We go cart raced. We went to the mall and went to Hot Topic, which is really surprising for me. Hot Topic had a certain place in my head and it wasn't necessarily like tween boy. But I don't know if you know that story. It's kind of I thought it was like sort of teen girl stuff. And now they've really kind of changed. They have like meme-ish shirts. Sure. And so the boys bought like one piece and bluey shirts and they also have like cheap earrings and jewelry. We went there and we went to the magic store, bought a bunch of magic cards. So it was a fun time. Of course we did the prerequisites grilling, but it was really hot. So there was a lot of in between doing things a lot of laying on the couch groaning. Yeah forced cool downs as a result. Yeah, we got pretty lucky. Nice long weekend weather wise here. A little bit of rain. We're getting a ton of rain all spring and summer, but yeah, no 90 degree days. So I feel like that's a win around the 4th of July. If you can keep it in the low 80s high 70s, that's where it was for most of those four days that we were off. If you'd like to join our discord, there's a link for that in the show description. Should be sure to do that. It's a good place to be lots of lively chatter about a bunch of different topics. Let's get to some news. There's some injury updates to start off today's show. Bryce Harper could be back on Tuesday. We're just going to wrap and kind of push through these just to get them out there. But I'm actually pleasantly surprised than one link for Bryce Harper because I thought with this being the week before the all-star break, maybe they would just give him the extra few days and let him come back with a completely clean slate in the second half. So some good news on that front, but Blake Snell is supposed to come back on Tuesday. So make sure he's in your lineup. If you're looking for that boost in pitching, question mark. It hasn't been the year we thought it would be for Blake Snell at all. Year one with the Giants, but a few injuries have slowed him down, the late signing. You look at the kind of underlying numbers. It doesn't look that different from a velocity perspective. The walk rate's high, but it's not that far away from where it was a year ago. I tend to think Blake Snell is going to iron it out and be mostly fine. I think the the best point I've heard about Blake Snell is something you said. I think at the time he signed, or maybe when he had his first couple of rough outings with the Giants, was that it may take him a little while to get on the same page with a new catcher, just because he's he's actually a relatively difficult pitcher to handle. And we look back at his time in San Diego and his worst year with the Padres was his first year with the Padres. So maybe there's a bit of a learning curve there for Snell and Patrick Bailey to sort of get on the same page and find that consistency. Bailey is a really good framer. I definitely saw it in the first two games where he just seemed a little surprised by movement patterns or maybe surprised by the wildness. Maybe he needs to figure out how one of the things that Snell does is he's wild above the zone. And I think a lot of catcher training right now and framing training is on like when we talk about catchers getting closer to the plate, that's for getting low breaking balls. And if you see the one knee down and all this stuff. So a lot of the attention in framing right now is how to take the low pitch and make it a strike or make it look like a strike or make it as it appears, whatever you want to say framing is. And so it's a little bit reverse on the high strike. There's different ways to set up and it favors taller catchers in terms of framing. So maybe Patrick Bailey actually needs a little bit of technique because there's not a lot of guys who live like Snell does. I guess maybe Harrison's a little bit similar. But Snell has a lot more ride on his fastball than Harrison. So yeah, it could just be comfort there. I tend to think that this is a guy who's never had great command. But I also think that the defense behind Snell has been inconsistent in terms of personnel. I don't know that Brett Wisely is a great defensive shortstop. But it has, you know, now there's more Nick Ahmed there. And I think it's settled down. What do you think of the Giants defensively? I think they patch it together in a way that makes it very difficult for them to be more than average defensively as a team. And they tend to be an old position player core. I know they've got Elliot Ramos and Luis Matos and a couple younger guys now taking on larger roles Ramos, of course, hitting really well. Matos sort of slipping into more of a small Cyplatoon role. Then they were sort of miscasting those guys as center fielders. So I think that works against them a little bit too. Even some of the younger guys they have have to sort of play out of position because they're pretty old. So if you said guess where they are as a team before looking it up, probably bottom third of the league if we're looking at maybe defensive run saved. They're better than that. You know, defensive, well, close, close to better than that. Defensive run saves, 18th outs above average 11th. UCR 150 18th. So, you know, they're not much better than what you said there. I would say they're a middling team. But I would also say that the personnel has been up and down and that there is a chance. I don't think that Elliot Ramos is the best, the most amazing defender in center. But there's a chance that with Nick Ahmed at short and Elliot Ramos in center and a healthy tire restaurant at second, that this could be a slightly above average defensive team. That's the ceiling, I think though, based on the personnel that they have available. And then they're dinged up a lot too. So that always kind of chips away at the quality of the defense behind that pitching staff as well. But Snell, back on Tuesday, if you want to get him into your lineup. Some news on Clayton Kershaw, he's going to have a rehab start next time out through a two inning simulated game on Sunday. Dodgers were happy with what they saw. Probably still a slower progression than we have for the typical veteran just giving them coming off of a pretty major injury for Clayton Kershaw. But we did have a question in our discord from Jeff A wondering how we'd rank these IL pitching stashes for their impact the rest of the year. It was de Grom Kershaw, Jeffrey Springs, Kodai Singa, and Robbie Ray, who I still think is the forgotten injured pitcher that could come back and be pretty impactful in the second half, especially when you consider the park. And even though we just talked about the defensive limitations for the Giants, maybe being above average, if it all works or slightly above average, if it all works. Robbie Ray last, like last time we saw him was missing a lot of bats and he had sustained the control growth that we saw back in 2021. He did that first first season in Seattle. So it's been a long time since we've seen Robbie Ray on a big league mound. But the last two seasons of Robbie Ray were really good. Yeah, I continue to be skeptical on Kershaw. It's going to possibly hurt me in the end. But one of my main indicators when people come back is the radar gun. A lot of times, because we don't have anything else. But also, I think it's a decent way of looking into their health. Mark Pryor touted Kershaw as fastball as hitting 88 to 89. So that's his max. So if he's hitting 89, he's going to sit 87. I don't know. That's just, I know it's Kershaw. And he's legendary. And he's going to the Hall of Fame. But he's never sat under 90 in any of his seasons. So sitting 87, I think makes me nervous. What we've heard that was good news from the Kodai Senga start was that he was hitting 97, 98. He cruised first to rehab start two and two thirds, no hits, no runs, no walks, six Ks look really, really good. I mean, is the question pick one of these guys? That's how would you rank them if you could only stash one? I mean, I think for me, Senga versus Ray, I thought Kodai was heading for surgery. But, you know, so far, so good. I think Kodai Senga versus Robbie Ray is a pretty interesting toss-up at the top of that list. I think Springs would be next for me. And I think I'd put Kershaw head of de Grom just because I think we have to wait longer on de Grom. What de Grom gives us might be the best of anybody, but it might be the shortest window of all these guys. We also got some interesting news. And who knows what that everyone's, everyone's speaking to three different audiences right now. But as when the trade deadline is coming, if you hear GM comments, the GM is talking to his players, he's talking to the media, he's talking to other GMs, you know what I mean? They're always, they always have like three different ideas that are trying to broadcast, you know. But Chris Young did come out and say that he would make most of his starters on one, like the free agent to be available at the trade deadline. Barring unforeseen circumstances or borrowing a change around here. So, you know, part of that is, hey, guys, you know, start winning or I'm going to trade, I'm going to be sellers, right? Part of that is, hey, give me call, you know, might sell my pictures, like, you know, call me for trade, you know, other GMs. But part of it is, like, you know, broadcasting to fans, oh, I'm not just happy with this. This is not just cool with with me. Like, I'm doing something about this. I'm making a very, look at my face. I'm not happy about this. But the last, the last part that I think is interesting, Jacob to Grom, if they are sellers, what does a return for Jacob to Grom look like? You know, how much urgency is there? Do they just want to get him, like, two or three good starts at the end of the year? And that's it. He threw a bullpen session in mid-June, and there hasn't been a lot in the way of updates since then. That's weird. It started the rehab assignment yet. I think it's going to be a three or four-week rehab assignment once the Grom does that, given, again, the lengthy layoff. And again, if they're sellers, why are they moving at us, you know? I think it would just be, yeah, like, if he's ready, he's ready, and we want to make sure he kind of gets the rust off and goes through the off-season feeling confident in his arm again. I think that would be the main goal for Grom with several years left, and given the importance he's going to have for the Rangers for these next couple of years, at least the expected importance. I think it's easy to lose sight of this because it's been around a lot of mistime. But when you look at the last 32 starts for Jacob DeGrom, and this spans the three seasons, since 2021, his last 32 starts, Jacob DeGrom, has a 293 to 23 strikeout-to-walk ratio in 186 and 2/3 innings. Imagine you got that season. That's why we all come back to the trough for Jacob DeGrom. Yes, this is why we will say that season be so epic. I will take that chance. Do you want 180 closer innings? If he gives you 25 starts with a 2 ERA and a 0.65 whip during that span, if he does anything close to that for even 2/3 of a season, you're going to be really happy. That's why we bought Tyler Glass now this year. Yeah, so I know I'm going to be dumb enough to get DeGrom on some teams in 2025. I can already see this train wreck happening. Unless he comes out and says, "My arm feels awful. I've lost seven ticks. Don't expect anything from me." Don't grab me, don't be right. Yeah, I need a message directly from DeGrom himself to not fall into this trap because it's still so good when he's out there. You agree with me that it's Senga versus Ray at the top, Springs is the clear 3, and then maybe Kershaw over DeGrom just based on timelines. Yeah, one thing that worries me a little bit about Springs is coming back from Tommy John's command comes back after stuff and Springs is a little bit of a command over stuff guy. Yeah, it needs that to be good. They might be okay if he comes back and is a little bit better than the tell a little bit worse than Eflin because that slots into the rotation. They need that, but will you as a fancy player want a pitcher that's a little bit better than the tell and a little bit worse than that Eflin? Right, that's a fair question to ask with Springs. I think that's that's why he's clearly third. Do you have a strong preference between Senga and Ray? I might take Ray just because I just have that little voice in the back of my head thinking, you know, surgery could still come for Kodai. It's like, you know, he could come back a little bit like a bradder situation where you could come back and like pitch well for a little bit and then just say, nope, I in the end, I did have to get the surgery. I think I'm Ray over Senga because we've seen a high level for a longer period of time. But anybody out there that wants Senga over Ray, like, that's two. There's questions of what is Kodai Senga's true talent? Like we don't actually maybe know it. He was great in the second half of last season. I think we're headed on or I had down the right path with him, but I had a little more confidence in Robbie Ray's skills. Just just a hair at this point. And I think that home park and both have good home parks, but I love the situation for Ray being a starter in San Francisco now as well. To just the land, two teams in a row now, he's been on a really nice picture friendly ballpark for his home starts. I hope we brought this up on Friday, and I think we did. But time is running out. Kodai, you know, Zander Bogart's is in rehab right now. Yeah, I'm stunned by that. We didn't talk about that because I thought that injury was going to take longer when Bogart's got hurt. I mean, I think at the time, it was reported in a way where they weren't really clear about a timetable, but it was kind of like two months, two months at least. And I think even at one point, it sounded like there was a chance he wasn't coming back at all this year. But I mean, now, like he could return before the all-star break. Big part of why Bogart's got scooped up in a lot of leagues this weekend, which we'll look at a few other players that got added in just a little bit. But I want to ask you how did Shane Boz look in his return to the rotation? Was it good enough where if you're in a 15 team league where pitching is really difficult to find, you're just letting it rip again against the Yankees this week and the Yankees have been struggling in a big way. We're going to dig into that in greater detail on tomorrow's show with Britt 5 and 15 in their last 20 games pitching in particular has been rough and the lineup kind of behind Judge and Soto just hasn't delivered. But Boz went six that first time back for the Rays. It's a scattered seven hits, gave up three runs. It wasn't was an amazing from a ratios perspective at six Ks one walk. I think all in all, it was a pretty successful return given how long he was down. Yeah, you know, it's he's maybe not all the way as good as he was in the sort of flashes that we got before. I remember in the futures game, he had like the best stuff plus out of any pitcher. And you know, in the 2021 glimpse that we got a 13 innings, he had a 159 stuff plus on the fastball and a 144 overall, it's just bonkers. That's that's like what you'd expect like a Felix Batista number to look like if except he was the starter. And then in 2022 wasn't quite as good 119 stuff plus 128 on the fastball 119 overall for Shane Boz. And then this year not as not as good as that 121 stuff plus on the fastball for Shane Boz 113 overall. But as you can tell, those numbers are still comfortably over over 100. And and so I'm I'm I'm in. I think there's going to be some bumps. I'm a little bit nervous that this week I think is the Yankees. But at least it's not the Yankees where they had the best offense at baseball. It's been the Yankees of the last month where they've been we'll talk about this again more some tomorrow, but it's been, you know, like the 11th best offense. So and I think he's home. So those things will help him. And so I don't want to waffle. I am all in. I'm buying. I would like to have him everywhere. I think he's I think he's relevant every league. I don't know how far up I want to zoom him up my rankings though because he's not quite as good as he was before. Yeah, I think if you put him in the 30 range among pitchers, that'd be a fair but aggressive sort of ranking based on still above average stuff. And what looks like a pretty clean runway to stay in the rotation and not have major workload restrictions moving through the second half. Me look at the workload at Durham, it was 10 starts, but it was only 39 in the third innings. So they really did a good job. And in part, because he wasn't crushing it, did a good job keeping that workload in check for Shane Boz pitching a lot better, of course, before they brought him up to write those last four starts were much better. He went five innings in three of those four outings, six, seven, eight and 10 Ks, no homers allowed. So I think everything is still on that long term up trajectory that we're hoping for. Yeah, there's there's some sort of up and down again in the vertical movement on his fastball. And so I was glad to see that he at least was close to where he was before. So his fastball in 2022 did have maybe about an inch more ride. But at 96 miles an hour with above average ride, it's still a good fastball. So it's, you know, I don't want to dam with faint praise just being like, Oh, yeah, he's not as good as he used to be. He's still really good. And our projections have him with basically a four ERA and a 23% strikeout rate. And I think those are low, but those compare favorably with Jack Flaherty, for example, was in our top 30. And so I would at least, I think a tough rank might be him versus Pepio or him versus Pavetta maybe going forward. I think I would take Boz over Pepio. Pavetta is a tougher one because Pavetta is like the Whitmeri field of pitchers for me, where I'm always a little bit off. And I think I think Pavetta is more likely to beat his ERA so far going forward if his skills hold than to continue at a four. I think he's more of a mid threes guy. Like I'm kind of buying Sierra on that ERA. If he's still missing bats at a 28% clip is weird. He's getting hit in the zone a little bit more. So the home run problems that have always been there are there. But this looks like a better version of Pavetta where the results haven't fully backed the underlying skills being better. Yeah. Both of our projections are for slightly better for Pepio and Pavetta over Boz. But I don't think this last update in projections had his current stuff plus. There you go. There's the gap for now. You mentioned Jack Flaherty, by the way. He could be in your lineup again for weekly leagues scheduled to start Thursday against the Guardians to home start. So it depends on how much you respect and worry about matching up against the Guardians, I guess. But I'd err on the side of Flaherty being good enough to handle that match up capably with it being at Comerica Park. Hello people. I am a Kim Malera here host of the Athletic FC podcast. The new Premier League and European football seasons are here and the Athletic FC has you covered. Join me, David Ornstein, Phil Hay and the most stacked footballing newsroom ever assembled every Monday to Thursday, as we take a deep dive into the biggest football story of the day. Then every Friday, Adam Laventhong and our club reporters will preview the potential tactics, drama and Jeopardy riding on the biggest game from that coming weekend. Check us out wherever you get your podcasts from for free. We hope you can join us for what is set to be another blockbuster season. So good news here. Also, this is the guy we've been waiting on for a long time. Luis Ortiz might be putting the pieces together. My man. Yeah, I mean, hey, like it's better late than never, right? I mean, for the season, a sub three ERA, it's a 118 whip, just three homers allowed now and 61 innings. Homer's been a problem for him in the past. He's had two recent outings as a starter where he's been really good, right? Six innings. Each of those starts, 12 Ks combined, no walks. Is anything different? The location strategy, pitch movements, velocity, like what do you see with Ortiz that's enabling him to have some success outside of a lot of those appearances being out of the bullpen? Well, I think a main thing and it's actually cost of a little bit of stuff plus upside, but it's helped him with location so much is the advent of his cutter. He has added a cutter. I mean, he's it's not that he's never thrown it before. It's not, you know, out of left field, but he's throwing it 20% of the time. And he hadn't ever thrown it 1% of the time before. And what the cutter is taking away from for Luis, Luis F or L, he's L. He's L or T's is that he can't command his change up. And so he's reduced the number of change ups and replaced them with a pitch he can command the cutter. And now he's a guy who has three good breaking balls, three good fastballs of which the sinker is, I think, plus, but as a starter, it's it's only sort of above average. It was when he was a reliever, it was like, you know, really good V low, really good sink. You know, now it's a it's a pretty good pitch. I would say he has three above average fastballs in the fat and the forcing the sinker in the cutter with the sinker being his strength. The nice thing is with the cutter, you know, he can use that against lefties. It's the modern wrinkle on pitching that we've been talking about in the multiple fastball thing. So you take that and then you take his one on one location plus for the year, you know, which includes some starts and includes all that relief time. I would say that's that's the biggest thing is replacing the change up with the cutter and having good command. He always had a plus breaking ball. He always had a pretty good sinker. Now he's kind of putting it all together. And, you know, I do want to see one last thing, what's his velocity has been in starts versus before. He's maintaining. Yeah, he's sitting nine six. So I don't know, he hasn't had the Vila really go down since he went to starting. I think he could afford to maybe slip to 95 or something, but really get breaking ball, really good sinker, new cutter. I mean, I tried to get him where I could. Yeah, probably a relatively inexpensive ad where available, the reason they have a need right now, Jared Jones down with a lat strain, a grade two lat strain, which is not great. But also, I think there's a reason that you you could tell yourself a story that even when Jared Jones comes back, he stays in the rotation. That is a Bailey falter has has not been playing well. There's another word for it. Right. And he's down with a tricep. Oh, he's hurt. Yeah, he's also hurt. So there's two guys there. There's two spots that he can play for. Yeah, so part of the inspiration for putting Ortiz in the rundown today was this idea that perhaps we could find another hunter brown. And I think you can you can basically make this universe as large as you want. You just need a pitcher who has not performed well. It could be someone like Ortiz who got moved into the bullpen. It could be someone maybe even as good as Carlos Rodin, who's just been awful for the last 30 days. It could be guys like Brian Bayo, who were kind of trendy during draft season and still haven't put it together yet. Up and down type guys like Spencer Aragetty or Randy Vasquez. But you're looking for bad recent performance, good underlying stuff, possibility of making an adjustment, and then having things click. And I was just looking at the player raider over at fan graphs again this morning. Hunter Brown has been the number one rated pitcher in the last 30 days, which if you told somebody that in the middle of April, they might have laughed in your face, even though we all liked Hunter Brown a lot throughout draft season. And of course, you know, last year when he was breaking through with the Astros. Yeah, I mean, I think like how how much are we? What is the story we're trying to tell? Like, is it the adding of a pitch? Is it the changing of a profile? Is it the adding of a fastball specifically? I mean, I think for Hunter Brown, the big thing was stuff plus loved is four-seamer, but batters could anticipate it better because it was his only fastball. And because his cutter is more of a power slider, that he doesn't really use like a cutter. So adding the sinker in there just gave him a wrinkle, especially against Rides, where he didn't have to go to the foreseam and made him less predictable. So in some ways, you know, there's still the chance that Graham Ashcraft sinker, you know, gives him that, even though it's not fully working out that way. But I, is that the story we're trying to tell, you know, I think some of that actually applies to Ortiz, where you look back at last season, Ortiz's foreseamer was crushed last year. Opposing hitters hit 383 and slugged 704 against Luis Ortiz's foreseamer. So far this year, 214-304 for the average and slugging against. And I would say that there's a very good chance that the addition of the cutter has helped make that foreseamer much more effective. Wait, and given that we're talking about a guy that throws really hard, a lot of times we're talking about these at a fastball guys as they throw 92-93 more in the Colin Ray to bias Myers back end starter bucket. When you do that at 95 or 96, I think there's a lot more ceiling and growth potential there. Yeah, I mean, I also just like, like there's not a lot of names that sort of pop off the list for me in terms of, you know, this is proliferating through baseball right now. You know, I put it on the story recently, but the number of pitchers with three pitchers has gone up 40%, three fastballs has gone up 40% in two years. So this is proliferating so fast, that's kind of even hard for me to find pitchers like Freddie Peralta, you know, leaps off the page to me as someone that like, what if he threw a sinker? It'd almost be like Tyler Glass now adding his two-seamer, you know? It wouldn't be something a pitch that had tremendous sink because of the Freddie Peralta's mechanics, but it could make him even more dominant against righties. And you don't know, maybe he can command it. He's not struggling though, so he doesn't count as the next hunter brown. Yeah, you got to have the low bottom out floor, wherever what he's like, it's a 12 team lead, I don't know if I can keep this guy. I mean, there were 12 team leagues where hunter brown got dropped at the beginning of the season because things were so bad. So that's where I think, that's where my brain goes is like, how bad does it have to get dropable in 12 teams, ideally, but I think, yeah, because again, I keep coming back to like Dylan Cease, I think should throw the cutter more. And I think that would help him with some of the stuff that kind of keeps, I think would help him with his walk rate and maybe his home run rate, and that would make him go from a player that's on the only in most leagues to a player that could be like top 30, top 20 going forward. So again, I haven't haven't quite thread that needle that you're looking for. All right, well, we're going to keep digging around. We'll see if we can find someone like that. I thought the other way to possibly break it out is to look for guys that have a ton of pitches that haven't really popped yet, right? And I think Randy Vasquez has quite a few pitches. Yeah, it's just to find the right mix. It's just tweaking the mix, like scrapping one a little, they were throwing one a lot less and then throwing one or two of the good pitches more, like maybe that's the thing that makes someone take off. So I think that's the profile that I'm probably hunting the most right now on the wire or in inexpensive trades, because I think those are the somewhat gettable pitchers out there that could be heroes for us in the second half. You know, I've always like wondered, you know, why Haney or Harrison Kyle Harrison or Andrew Haney or John Gray don't throw sinkers because they throw these weird kind of dead zoney fastballs that have sideways movement. I talked to John Gray about a little bit and he said that his ball naturally moves more like a sinker towards his arm side and more like a foreseem to his glove side. So he's kind of hiding a little bit of different profiles in there. And that might be the case for Haney and Harrison as well, who throw a lot of fastballs who probably their fastballs their best pitch for all three of them that Gray has a decent slider. You know, I just wonder why they have never try to lean into the sinker profile and maybe do some seam shifted wake on there on their sinkers. But I do know that the pitching coaches for these guys have all considered that. So whatever reason that there is, I kind of doubt it's going to change on a dime, you know. Yeah, it doesn't always happen quickly. The only name I wanted to throw at you that we haven't talked about in a few weeks at least is Brian Bayo. And I think it's odd that he's been the outlier so far for a Red Sox rotation where so many so many pitchers have exceeded expectations this year. And Bayo, if you kind of looked at core skills to begin with some of the minor league results, he'd say, why? Why isn't he also thriving? And maybe it's just going to happen in the second half because they're still working through some of those tweaks with him. Yeah, I mean, they very famously said that they were going to go away from the foreseem in Boston, away from fastballs in general. And in his last start against Miami, the foreseen came back and it was his best or his maybe his second best start of the year. You have to tease that apart from the fact that it was against Pittsburgh, the other one. And the last start for Brian Bayo was against Miami. So his two best starts of the year, not against premium offenses. But it is interesting to think that they're going to roll they're going to roll that forcing her back in for Brian Bayo and like try to use it. Maybe it's just a surprise pitch and not something that's like sort of foundational for him. I'm interested to see where that goes. I think more pitches is better for every pitcher, even if it's not your best pitch. I think this could be a good thing for Brian Bayo. I keep trying to convince myself that Slade's a Coney is going to be a thing too. Yeah, me too. I just keep falling to that trap and then it'll be off a roster, have a good start, go back to the waiver wire, try to add him again. You know, just on again off again, K-rate's been a little bit lower than expected. ERA shouldn't be this bad. The whole run rate's been a problem so far. So that's part of what's gone wrong for Slade to this point. But he's one of those guys that I keep in deep leagues especially, keep thinking maybe the second half would be better. Yeah, I wonder if he could throw a two-seamery. He has an 1165 ERA at home. Also, interestingly enough for a guy that has two decent breaking balls, he has allowed a 552 slugging and has allowed Rites to do better against him than Lefties. So he seems like a real candidate for a two-seamery. What you're trying to do with the two-seamery in this situation is give yourself a fastball that's better against Rites. And he's obviously having some trouble against Rites. So maybe Slade's Coney is your next Hunter Brown. Although really, I go back to the fact that Hunter Brown is a little bit unique in that he had pedigree. He was a prospect, you know what I mean? I would think he had a better pedigree than Slade's Coney. That's where I landed on Bayo. Like, you know what, Bayo was supposed to be good, is supposed to be good, could still be good. And I think if you trust the organization and the way they can make some adjustments, maybe that's what it is, it's not as easy to see it. Like, it's easy to see it in hindsight. Much harder to see at the time because unless you were the one going out there trading for Hunter Brown and adding Hunter Brown, you probably watch someone else do it. And that's frustrating when things click and we're all looking for pitching, just about all the time. It's just the way it is. If you have a lot of good pitching, it starts to break down and you need more. If you never have good pitching, you're chasing it because you're trying to make up ground as fast as you possibly can. So let us know in Discord, if you have candidates for the next Hunter Brown, the pitcher that you would barely want to start right now that could go red hot for a dozen plus starts in the second half and carry you into contention. I think Bayo is our Hunter Brown because first of all, you have this really small sample of the forcing fastball coming back. On top of that, he's forcing fastball this year has an inch more ride and he was throwing a 97 in that start. So that's kind of exciting, you know, and it mirrors kind of browns up again, down again, you know, how good easy, good prospect pedigree, good other pitches where you're just trying to add a fourth pitch and make it really home. We were just talking about the Diamondbacks a minute ago, they have a guy, Gilbert Diaz getting a look in the rotation this week. And I was like, I saw the, I was looking at the Roto wire projected starter grid, getting ready for the week, saw the wide Diaz in the grid was like, wait, who? And I had to click through. And I saw that our friend James Anderson actually had Gilbert Diaz inside his top 100 prospects list in his last update, which, you know, is clearly a riser. Gilbert Diaz was not a top 100 prospect on the list that I saw going into the season. And Arizona is one of those places where opportunity is certainly there because Jordan Montgomery is on the IL, Merrill Kelly has a long term injury that he's been down with, like, Wollstone just got hurt. So I think this is a situation for Diaz, where if he pitches well, he could actually hang around for more than just this first turn against Atlanta. But seeing that he was briefly in AAA, I was curious if you had some stuff numbers, because the results were really, really good these last two times out 21 strikeouts in 12 innings and just two walks. Yeah, stuff less does not like him. And I'm trying to figure out why really quickly the 80, 88 in the minor leagues so far for us. And let me do this real quick sort by ID. Gilbert, command thing is the pitch grades from the Fangraft scouting report are actually really good 60 fastball 55 slider 55 curve. That's 30 with future 40 command. Yes, the command is a big question. You can see that just from the walk rates. And he had a 98 location plus the minors, which might be decent, actually. So he's gone to a cutter, it looks like now. And the stat cast pitch definitions are forcing fastball cutter and slider, which is a it's not a unique combination, but it's not like who comes to mind that's like that, maybe Walker Bueller who has a curve. Yeah, Bueller's got a curve. Like Ryan Nelson's a little bit like that, maybe. It's a little bit, it makes me a little bit nervous. You know what I mean? Like, there's no curve, there's no change, there's no sinker, but it is two fastballs on a slider. It just doesn't, it says the forcing fastball 78 stuff less than the slider 72, which is, that's a low number for a slider. So I don't know exactly what's going on there. But and so I would never use this information to say that I'm out on a guy like preemptively. But if I did pick him up, you know, I wouldn't start him in my first start if he had these numbers in the minors. And I would also point out that the the command grades are backed up by big walk rates. So those are two things that are kind of against him before he steps foot on the field. But that doesn't mean he can't be good. I mean, there's, it's really complicated to be a good starting pitcher. I would, I would definitely, I'm going to watch it, you know, I'm going to watch it and start. But I, I'm not pretty supposed to, you know, I need to have this guy before he comes up, you know. Yeah, I think it's definitely worth keeping an eye on. I think what's other, what else interesting in the profile so far is the home run rates have been pretty good. At most of his stops had a bit of a blip at high A where he got up there. But if he's someone that issues walks, but doesn't really give in and misses, misses are more in the outside the zone situation and then less in zone, then maybe that's how he makes up for it. Maybe he's one of those higher walk rate guys that gets by by not getting squared up as often. Yeah, and maybe cutter slider is actually gyro slider and sweeper or gyro slider and curve, you know, like these names sometimes don't mean much until you see the pitch. I mean, if it was foreseen fastball, cut fastball and gyro slider, I'd be like, yo, I don't know how that's going to work because everything is just too similar, you know. Yeah, well, I think we'll be, we'll be joined by a lot of folks curious to see what yield birdie us can bring to the table for the Diamondbacks. Let's take a look at where some of the money went this weekend in our leagues. We talked about James Wood a lot last week. There were NFBC leagues where Wood was only available for the first time Sunday night. So not surprisingly, he was heavily added and at a steep price where that was an option. But I think we should talk about Brooks Lee a little bit because he was available almost everywhere this weekend outside of keeper and dynasty situations. Royce Lewis getting hurt again opened the door for Lee to come up make his debut. He's short stop eligible now. He's probably going to play a lot of third base and pick up the corner to go with that middle infield spot. So that's kind of nice. And Brooks Lee was obliterating triple A this year once he got healthy pop seven homers and 94 plate appearances should create plate discipline. This is a pretty interesting profile that actually came a lot cheaper and a lot of leagues than James Wood did. I got outbid nine to eight in one league. I should have obviously put a little bit more in there was a $100 league with no $0 bid. So bidding is really tight in that league. And I think our buddy Ryan Bloomfield was in that swooped in with the extra $1 on me. So big mistake on my part, not going like, I don't know, 11 or 12 on Brooks Lee because there's probably a situation that could unfold where he continues to play even after Royce Lewis eventually returns. I was willing to go to 50 out of a thousand and that was five percent. Yeah, that wasn't enough to get him. He mostly went well one league he went 67 in my TGFBI another 121 and in my main event 123. So people are pretty excited. I just wasn't willing to go there because I just don't understand how Brooks Lee has managed this level of power considering his bad ball stats. Like I just don't get where it's coming from. He had a 1049 max CV and triple A and that's not the be all end all of any stats, but it's 104 six this year. And even if you add 2023 triple A, that's 109. So now we're talking about 300 plate appearances where the best he's hit is a 109. Also his hard hit and triple A this year was 31% is 33% in the big leagues. Like there's just something missing for me in terms of I would want the hard hit or the barrel or the max CV something to sing to me as to why he had a 300 ISO in triple A this year. And I don't see it. So I think it's a much more likely he's kind of this 175 ISO guy that we saw in double A in 2023. And if that's the case, he can still be a good hitter, you know, but he won't be a great one. If he does, if he adds a 175 ISO to what he's projected to do, he would be a 250 hitter with something like 18 to 22 home run power. That'd be all right if you ran a little bit. Yeah, he has some running. I mean, but you know, this year combined two stolen bases. Yeah, it doesn't look like a big part of his game yet. Also, he's banged up. So who knows like, I always find that really hard to figure out is like, is this a player who won't run at all? Yeah, run much because waiting for his rings to feel better or whatever. Yeah, you know, even if it's like a hand injury or something, it's like, well, you probably don't want to go try stealing bases when your hands all messed up. So you just want to stay healthy and play. So that becomes a big part of it. I also wonder with Brooks Lee, you know, where was he hitting the ball? I have something I want to look at too. And it looks like a pretty decent distribution from triple A looking at a spray chart right now looks like a guy that doesn't have like all pull side production or anything that the whole world is going to make the most out of is not a parades. I was hoping to see more of a parade is from like, yeah, you know what? It's, it's unique. It works. But he's a switch hitter. So I wonder how much that's kind of a funky part of exit Vlo. But I mean, one thing I'm really circling is 30% fly ball rate and triple A with with medium with like below average, I would say bad ball stats. So he's not he's not doing the priorities where he's making the most out of the fastballs and pulling them. It's it's a it's a blah line with the blah that blah. Okay, it's a it's it could be a strong batting average distribution, right? 45% ground balls, 30% fly balls, you know, that's that kind of a line drives situation, right? So that could be maybe you say he's okay, he's a 275 hitter. Okay, maybe I believe you, but it's not one that should produce more than 20 home run power. That's that's where that's where my line is. It's like, I just I don't think it's above average power. I don't think it's above average power yet, but I'm wondering if it can be I'm looking back. So the the player profile, this kind of reminds me of I know he doesn't switch hit, but it's early career willy adamis, where he's like kind of good at everything, but not great at anything. And this is better plate discipline from Brooks Lee than we saw from willy adamis. Better contact, I want to say that the swing strike rates have been moving up and down. Yeah, so when willy adamis broken with the rays, he cade about 30% of the time, just under that only had a 29.6% hard hit rate. And I think at the time, we would have looked at that and said, oh, that's not that's not great, but he was a 22 year old hitting big league pitching for the first time, right, right. And then you say, okay, well, what was the max EV back then if that gives us a north star for power potential one 10.6 was the max EV for the adamis, better than what Lee's done. And willy hasn't really like the first three years in the league, like one 10.9. The second year up was the hardest hit ball of his first three years. So it's not it's not like a finished product. Any time you get a play that's just incomplete at least the first time, easy to sort of make that assumption. Yeah, my opinion is on him long term or different than, you know, what I gave you is my opinion on him for the next two months. Right, he might be Brooks Lee might be a little bit tricky in a 12 team league to keep on your roster and in your lineup consistently at a 15. It might be good enough to play. You might have enough hold his own sort of skills to just get by. If he starts stealing bases someday, maybe it's a dance be Swanson profile in the long run in the infield. Remember also that the corresponding move was Royce Lewis being hurt. So there is a possibility that he is just in Royce Lewis's spot until Royce Lewis comes back. Yeah, I think the defensive versatility is something that works in Lee's favor though, because they could let Willy Castro be a true utility guy. They could play him more in left field eventually and play Lee at second base. And that's something that Julian couldn't do really. Yeah, so I do think they can play all over. Brooks Lee offers a little bit more of the roster that gives him a chance to hang around. That's where the next game came from. You know, and open up a spot for Lee, you know, while while Royce Lewis is coming back. So yeah, I can see the arguments for him. But without that standout bad ball stuff, I was just I don't believe the current ISO or even the AAA ISO for Brooks Lee. Twins have had a few red hot hitters. I mean, Jose Miranda has been just ridiculous. Like he's a top 20 player in the player raider for the last 30 days. He's got a 424 average three homers, just a steal during that spam at 23 RV eyes, 15 run scores. He's been really good. And Buxton has been great too. Six homers, three steals, 357, 21 runs driven in and 21 runs scored. He's 10th tied for 10th in the player raider for the last 30 days among hitters, just in 12 team leagues. So I think the twins are starting to put the pieces together around a lot of injuries. They still look to me like they're maybe the most complete team in that division. Even the guardians have opened up an impressive lead. They can make it a they can make it a battle, I think. If you're in the position of the guardians, we're going to talk a lot about them and maybe issue an apology for doubting them a couple months back through that tomorrow. But I think the twins of the team you're more worried about as they're currently built than the royals, even though the royals continue to play very well. Also, some other names here though, where the money went. Yariel Rodriguez. I think this is like 50% streaming. Yeah, to start situation. I think he's he's got Arizona this week is the matchup. I think he was to start. No, I think he was to last week. But two starts in a row where he went at least six innings and struck six out. I think I think that's sort of the reason people were more aggressive with him in more shallow leagues this weekend. What do you think about Yariel Rodriguez? I mean, I think he came up maybe a month or so ago in one of our conversations. Has anything changed now that you've had a few more looks at him? He's okay. I was a little nervous. I think the two start one of the matchups was not ideal. Let me see what his game log says. Yeah, one was I guess was Houston and at Seattle and I liked him, you know, a little bit. But then I, you know, imagine go back to before the first of July and you're looking to pick him up and you think, Oh, I can get two starts out in the next week. He had just thrown one inning and one and one and a third. So I was just like, he's not stretched out. Like it's really amazing that he's gone to six. Now he's gone to six. I think of him like completely differently and think of him as a credible streaming option that I would just avoid against top five top 10 offenses if I could. Yeah, I think with the Ario Rodriguez, I watched a little bit of him and there's a in the delivery, there's a lot of ways to disrupt the hitter's timing. You know, so I think that's one of the things in the toolbox that might make stuff play up a little higher above the actual raw pitch grades for him. So that's part of why I'm intrigued by what he's been doing here recently. Projections aren't bad. I think you see low fours, a lot of places kind of 1.3 whips, not bad in that regard, but probably more of like a number four starter right now based on what we're seeing right now. The streaming makes a lot of sense and Arizona's a team I don't think you have to be afraid of. I mean, why? Why? Why would you really worry about matching up against them? Curious. What did you do as far as your big moves this weekend? Oh, I guess so. Arizona 11th best offense for the season and in the last 30 days, fifth best, 126 w rc plus in the last 30 days for Arizona. And I did not expect that. You know, Christian Walker was crushing the Dodgers all all weekend. Christian Walker has a 164 w rc plus over the last 30 days and listen to this, could tell Marte 145 jock Peterson 142 Lord's Christian here 142 Suarez back off the mat 247 396 397 for you honey or Suarez, 133 w rc plus in the last 30 days, even Corbin Carroll with a 105 and finally got a homer. I don't know. I'm not saying that you're wrong. I'm just saying I think I am sneaky sneaky offense. I might be a little bit afraid of him, but yeah, I mean, sometimes you got to throw him. I just don't I don't think I'd circle Arizona, you know, and for one starts, if I'm streaming for one starts, it's usually somewhere I'm like, Oh, Oakland's in town or they're in Oakland. You know what I mean? Like it's usually I'm trying to circle an offense. It's I'm trying to target somebody. What I did was one of the big things that I did was bought Edwin Diaz in my main event. And I actually thought this is a funny story beyond just, you know, nobody cares about your fancy team kind of stuff. So we had like 390 left or something. Yeah, 395 or something. And we wanted to prepare a max bid for Edwin Diaz because we have been limping along with Josh Hader and Jeff Hoffman as our main closers. And so I decided that I didn't like the the max bid. So we had a max bid on the table of like 327 or something. I was like, Oh, God, has Edwin Diaz been the same since enforcement? Like, what is he gonna come back? Is this command gonna be good? Like, we're gonna spend all of our money on a closer? Oh, no, I don't want to do this, you know? But we do need a closer is actually would it's really important for us because we've streamed our way to the top of the case and near the we're doing we'll go out and wins. And at some point, we may want to switch our focus and start playing like three closers and four closers. You know, at some point, we need to do something a little different. And Diaz offered us that opportunity. And, and so I argued my calendar down to 265, you know, before, before Sunday. And then Michael Copac, who is one of our closest, we just picked up, blew the save. And I got so mad that I went in immediately after he blew the save. And up to our bid to 317 is just out of spite and hatred and pure reactionary juice there. And we bought we wanted 317 to 300 Edwin Diaz. And so we've got something like 75 bucks for six weeks or something. Seventy bucks for six weeks. And so we're going to be doing a lot of $1 one dollar bids from here on out. But, you know, looking at our pitching staff, I feel like we have now seven pitchers that we want in our lineup every week, which means, you know, we have three or four pitchers on the bench, two, two more pitches in the lineup. We have a lot of flexibility in lineup and in the starting pitching. So the real question will be, will our $70 get us through the year on, you know, helping us with our offense. So I look at my offense though, and this is something you're reacting to pre show is, you know, I look at our offense and I can identify five guys that should be doing better going forward than have done. And so to some extent, the plan now for our main event team is, hey, we're going to be sellers if you don't turn it around. We need to give the motivational speech to our hitters. We're basically we're like, Hey, our future is in your hands hitters. We can't, we don't have much money to change things around here. And so that's, that's where we're at there. I also bought Zander Bogart's picked him up for 31 to 27 bid, hopefully just a week before he would cost a lot more. And I tried to get some Luis Ortiz, didn't didn't work out, ended up instead with Dean Kramer, where I won him in one league, 33 to 17, and lost him in another league with the exact same settings, 107 to 23. So you only bid 23 in the other league because you didn't need him as badly. Yeah. That was the difference in your bid. Yeah. Yeah. So there were better other pitchers. You know, sometimes my, my top bid has has something to do with the other bids below it in the tree, right? So if I, if I look and I say, okay, I want Dean Kramer, but this league also has Jose Soriano available and two or three other pitchers I like. The fact that Jose Soriano was second on that brought Dean Kramer's bid down in this league. In the other league, I was looking at it. I was like, I don't really want anybody but Dean Kramer, you know. So it's, you know, the availability means something. So I, instead of getting Dean Kramer for 107, which I think is a little bit over your skis, I mean, he's a, he's a decent pitcher, but he's maybe a step above streaming. I got Jose Soriano for $7 bucks, you know, and Soriano's availability brought Dean Kramer's bid down in that league. Yeah. Dean Kramer is pretty interesting right now because he's been running the best whip that we've seen from him in the big big. So 109 for the season through 55 innings. Best K rate we've seen really over any long stretch. I think when he came up in 2020, he had 18 innings is where he was better than he is right now. But this is an improvement over what we've seen previously. I'm swinging strike rate doesn't necessarily back up a massive uptick in strikeout rate, but it's kind of a home run problem profile, but it's working pretty well. Dean Kramer looking like a little bit more than a temporary rotation guy and they've had a lot of problems. If you look at the players that were, were shifted around or cut from rosters, Cade Povich got rocked by the A's on Saturday, and they said Colerven's going to the bullpen. I mean, Kramer is increasingly like part of the core rotation in Baltimore. I think, you know, going into last season, it felt like that was his last chance to lock down a spot. He did well enough to do that, but now he's pitching at another level above that. And he doesn't, he doesn't have an out pitch. I think for me is the reason why he can't get too excited for him. He doesn't have a single, you know, pitch with a stuff plus over 100, but I will say that in his last start against Seattle, the splitter looked pretty good. And splitters, you know, sometimes, you know, take a little bit more time and stuff plus. And if he does have an out pitch in that splitter, that changes things because he does have three average ish fastballs. And so he can be a kitchen sink guy. He does have good command. And so there are things I like about him, but it's, he's sort of in search of an out pitch. So if you want to watch his next outing, you're watching the splitter and deciding whether or not that can be a real out pitch for him. Another way you can tell that he doesn't have a great out pitch is a 20.5% strikeout rate for his career and a 9.8 swing strike rate, 9.7 this year for Dean Kramer. So he's not great at, at whiffs. And that's something that we are always looking for in fantasy. And that's why the bat has Kramer with a four, six, seven year array and doesn't believe in him at all. I someone who rosters a lot of Jamis and tie on, I find myself intrigued by being Kramer, like that similar expectations. I think tie ons, fastballs, great out, worse than Kramer's and Kramer's non fastballs, great out worse than tie on, but like tie ons, breaking balls are better. You just kind of look at both those guys and say, you know, they're, they're just good enough. And I think if I like the team context or the park or maybe both in the case, the Orioles, that's enough for me to sort of round up even though there are some limitations. One of those pitchers that you sometimes have in your lineup sometimes don't, but it's like a little bit too good to drop. Right, probably my seventh starting pitcher at best would be where I want Dean Kramer right now. But the idea, I don't want to drop him because he's an Oreo. The Orioles are good. They win a lot. He can go five plus like there's all those things I always talk myself into in as far as holding on to someone like Dean Kramer. But yeah, the Orioles sort of led the way with pitching drops between Povitch and Ervin. David Festa quick return to Triple A after another bumpy outing against the Tigers. Maybe it'll happen next time around. It's possible. I think what's hard is the 12 team line for pitching. It's very tough to define it. Expenser Arageti seems to be on that line. David Peterson right now seems to be on that line. Those were guys that had two steps last week that got cut out of the weekend because they only have one start or a more difficult start coming up on the schedule this week. Yeah. I think Peterson is just easier for me to hang on to. I picked him up in my 12 team dynasty for the weekend. And he's just easier for me to hold on to because him at home is I think pretty much an always start. So it's just easier for me to circle. You know, again, sometimes players are just as useful as how easy it is for you to figure out how to use them. And with David Peterson, it's like, okay, I'm gonna start him at every home start. And then I'm gonna, if it's a two starter where one's a home, one's away, I'm gonna have to think about it a little bit harder. But otherwise, there's, you know, it's easy for me to figure out how to start an Arageti. I just, I think it's has to do with command and like, you know, he has good breaking balls, but not great fastballs. And so he's, when he can command the fastball, then it all works. But if you look at Arageti's line and you try to be like, Hey, could I have avoided, you know, the bad starts for Arageti? I don't think that you would win that game. I mean, what do we do? We have a game, a name for this at some point. But, you know, let's say, would you have started him at Toronto? Maybe in a 15 team or, yeah, 12, no. Well, that was a blow up. You would have started him at home against Colorado. And that would have, that would have been the best start of his career. You would you have started him at home against Detroit, though? Yes. Yeah. So that's the worst star of his career. One and a third was seven earned runs. Would you have started him at home against San Francisco? Yeah. Would you have started him at home against Milwaukee? Hmm. Let's see. The Brewers and Diamondbacks are really similar in terms of what their lineups have done this year. Underrated lineups, yeah. Underrated, but I think I'm poking the bear with both of them and clearly based on what I thought of Arizona earlier in the show. But I've been critical of the Brewers lineup as one that at the beginning of the year looked like it was top five, top six, and it's kind of slowly sinking back closer to league average or slightly above. So a long way of saying, yeah, I probably would have thrown Eric Getty at least in a 15, but maybe also in a 12. He would have been in that situation we just described with Dean Kramer, where maybe he was my seventh or eighth best starter. But by matchup, that would have bumped him in because someone else's matchup might have been more difficult. I just, yeah, it's just, yeah, at Seattle, he was great at Oakland. He wasn't, you know, five innings, three earned runs. That's another guy that looks like tie-on on paper. I guess it's just, I mean, not really though, because he has this high-end upside, strike-out upside, you know, but it comes with like really bad command, most games. And then when the command is good, he's, everyone's like, "Why, why is your model eight, Eric Getty?" And the command is bad, nobody's asking me about him, you know, so. It likes the secondaries. It likes the slider, the curve, and the change-up. And that's where the similarity. They're just looking at the model numbers. Oh, okay. He does that stuff well. But, yeah, it's the command right now. But Eric Getty would be somebody that I could keep talking myself into, right? Because, oh, yeah. Well, the Astros, they still have that reputation. And he shows these flashes. So maybe I'm constantly looking at him on the wire and trying to make it work. But it was a two-step last week. So. One name to stash, because I think the next time we get a health update, he'll be picked up everywhere as Ben Brown. I saw him go in a couple places and we put him on some lists. But it was just below Kramer or whatever. So you're running out of chances to pick up Ben Brown on the cheap again, I think. I think there's room for him, especially with the Assad injury. And, you know, and the chance that he becomes a closer. So I think he's just a guy. If you have deeper rosters, even in a 10 team or 12 team, he could be worth picking up. If you have deeper rosters, if you don't have deeper rosters, then it's kind of hard to hold on to guys like that while you're waiting. Yeah, I think this next week going into Sunday, especially keeping an extra close eye on news and figuring out who's actually coming back right out of the break and who's still maybe a few weeks away from returning is going to be a way to possibly dig up a bargain or two in FAB. Like if you're on it, you're more likely to find a couple of those players. If you're not, someone else is going to find those players instead. So we'll try to help out with that. We got a a little bit of a show schedule note. We're going to flip the order of our shows. We're going to put the live stream with Trevor on Thursdays. It's going to be one o'clock Eastern, same start time over on YouTube. Of course, you don't watch it live potted drop in the afternoon. And then on Fridays, we're going to do all the fantasy stuff we were doing on Thursdays. We're going to try that out for a little while and see see how that feels. I think that's going to work out really well. Theory being, we just want you guys to be there live with us because we can get more live questions, more live reactions. It makes it more fun. And maybe more people can get to a live show on Thursdays. Fridays are the getaway day of the work week. There's too many of us that are trying to leave early, especially during the summer, trying to leave early, pick up the kids, go for a long weekend or whatever. So we're going to try Thursdays out. Now through Labor Day, especially, people are trying to just get out the door on Friday. So yeah, Thursday, one o'clock Eastern on YouTube for the live stream this week. And I think most weeks going forward for us. If you'd like to get a subscription to the Atlantic, you can do that for $2 a month. The athletic dot com slash rates and barrels will bring you to that offer. You can find, you know, on Twitter at, you know, Sarah's, you can find me at Derek VanRiper, find the pod at rates and barrels. And as I mentioned earlier, you can get the link to join our Discord in the show description. That's going to do it for this episode of rates and barrels. We're back with you on Tuesday. Thanks for listening.