Inside Access with Jason LaCanfora and Ken Weinman

Will the Ravens go heavy personnel a lot this season?

In the second hour of Inside Access' live show from The Angler Restaurant and Bar with the ultimate football guy Bobby Depaul, the guys discuss why they believe the Ravens will go heavy personnel a lot with their offense this season. They also are joined by former NFL special teams coach Chris Tabor to talk the new special teams rules this season.

Duration:: 42m
Broadcast on:: 12 Aug 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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It's one running back, two tight ends and two receivers. 13 personnel is one running back, three tight ends and one receiver. So you guys are hammering the 12 personnel because you want likely and you want Andrews on the field. Jason has mentioned that they only threw 11% of the time when those two guys are on the field for dropback passing. Correct? Let me give you another step. Because this might blow your mind. Ravens quarterbacks attempted 494 passes last year. They attempted 34 of them with those two both on the field. So that's 6.8% of their attempts. Likely in Andrews, when on the field together, for 10 games combined for just 84 snaps, 11 catches, 121 yards, one touchdown between the two of them when they're on the field together, but obviously when they're not on the field together, each one performs individually at an all-pro level. So our thought has been, get them on the field more together. I don't disagree what you're saying. Okay. But if you go back to the AFC Championship game, where's the running game? Yeah. Okay. You want to win the World Championship. You want to be Kansas City. You got to run the football. So you need Patrick McCartle in the field. Okay. He used to fall back. That's 21 personnel. And that's how you get your play actions, which we I went back and listened to that tape before this show. And all I was hearing was Detroit Lions, 21 lineup and 21 personnel, run play action and take vertical shots, take the vertical shots down the field, and you might run them out of the park. They didn't do it. Okay. So now we're so infactuated with throwing a ball. I get it. But neither one of those guys are very good blockers. Okay. So you're so think about it. We still won't record on. We're thinking Henry, record those two tight ends. Throw a wee little Z a flowers out there and let's go. Okay. So saying that's a different package of personnel. It's called 22 personnel. Now you have two runbacks, two tight ends, one receiver. We're talking about 12 personnel, 13. It doesn't surprise me that when they were in 12 personnel, that they only had 11 percent, you know, dropback pass, because it's a run the ball. Play action, right? That quarterback under center, run the play action. That's what 12 personnel is. Can you get the 12 personnel and give you 11 personnel looks? What's 11 personnel? That's one tight end, three receivers, one running back. You can get likely, so you got to start thinking about 11 personnel looks by switching up with heavier personnel in the field. Now you get your, you know, your inside outside zone at a shotgun with King Henry, got a bit fortunate to defend the run, right? There's more play action and then hitting likely or Andrews off to play action or dropback passes. You can run dropback passing with those guys on the field. But when I think of dropback passing in Lamar Jackson, think of that the quarterback and where he's most dynamic is the off platform throws where he's, it's dropback, but then he's forcing the defense to defend the second play, which is his scramble play. Who do you want on the field? Do you want the slower tight ends? And I brought this up last year. Do you want the slower tight ends on the field with dropback or do you want the speed? The guys are concerned and go deep, okay? Because you got Lamar Jackson running around, the tight ends aren't going to get that great separation that they don't have the ability to go deep. So the safeties will sit on him, okay? If you've got the speed on the field and now it's dropback and it becomes the scramble drill, it's the speed guys that you're going to be wanting to throw the ball to, their guys are going to be open. So you just got to keep that in mind. You can do all the things you want to do with these two tight ends on the field, okay? There's no question. But who would you rather have on the field in that dropback situation when you know the second play is what Lamar is best doing? I guess for me in this passing offense, you want to get your best playmakers involved. And I mean, like you got answers, you got like the Zayflowers and we know what it has been or lack thereof with Rashad Bateman. And I feel like with likely he even said it himself, he's a chess piece, right? I mean, you can use him in the slot, you can use him out wide, you know, you can use him in a variety of different ways. I don't disagree. All I'm saying is, is that when these tight ends are on the field, it's not a big place. It's worth short to intermediate. Do you want to take the tight? If you don't have anybody who can take the top off of coverage, the safeties are going to realize what you're doing and sit on you. They're going to sit on these tight ends. And you got to keep my likely excelled because there was no Mark Andrews. That's why he just replaced Mark Andrews. Mark Andrews is always excelling. Now he gets hurt, likely comes in and he's excelled. He's just replacing Mark. So the Ravens have two guys that could do the same type of thing. You put both of them on the field defensively, they're going to go nickel person. Now they're going to rush the quarterback or they're going to blitz because they can cover these guys better than they could receive. It's a game of reaction on defense. So I'm telling you as a defensive coach, it's easier to defend two tight ends than it is three receivers. But if we're in 21 or 22, we're getting some of the lesser coverage guys because they're going to have to respect our bulk, aren't they? So even if they've got the safeties over the top, if you've got likely against their second best coverage linebacker or a box safety, right? Because they're going to still have to respect us running Henry behind record out of those packages. No? Well, like I said, if you have two tight ends that are non blockers, they're not going to they're going to go nickel. They're not going to go base or defensively. They're not you wish they would, right? But they won't. They will go nickel. They will stay in nickel because they're not worried about defending the bar at the line checks into a run play. You can do that. Absolutely. But think of it this way. They will be the linebackers, you know, it's light in the box with six in the box, right? So they have six seven blockers, okay? Absolutely. With King Henry back here, it makes a difference. But like I said, I don't see defenses when those two guys on the field going heavy personnel, they're going to be defending the pass. And then they'll stick in the run blitzes, which I said, spags does you saw, you know, I talked, I went back last year and listened to that podcast with the Kansas City game. And all we talked about is how, you know, they don't defend the run. They don't defend the run. They defended the run pretty good in that game because they picked their spots. You know, it's about risk management, okay, for a defensive coordinator. And it's a it's a chess game going on out there. And you got to keep in mind, it always comes back to the evaluation of the player and what they can and cannot do. If you want to go 22 person now, now you get a compliment. And now you get what you want. See, I'm what I'm saying is it's not 12. It's 13. It's 22. It's now I've got record on the field who can play that H back spot. And now you can get now you get your matchups because they will go ahead. Now you got respect. Now when you go heavy. Oh, I'm in base now, because we can knock them off the ball because we have a guy that's a disruptor in the running game, which we're card. And now you stick likely out and you can, you know, you start getting into these bastard formations where you get the corner matched up to likely or Andrew's. Now you that's what that's what you guys really want. You want 22. Let me ask you one more question because his name was mentioned during all this. And he's a wide receiver, but Richard Bateman, like from a evaluator perspective, has the ship sailed on him like a do you have any expectation for him anymore? I a towel wise, he has the talent. Has he ever consistently played at the level that the expert? What do I always say? The expectations are where you're picked or how much you get paid. He don't get paid that much anymore, Bobby. I mean, it's a haircut. We just saw David Higgins out there. He looks like a first round pick. Yeah, right. We've seen glimpses of Bateman. Okay, but he's always getting hurt, man. He gets he's hurt now. It's a little scary right now because see, last year they had the competition with Odell Beckham. He's not back. Now these guys are sitting there going, Hey, we got a situation where you know, they don't have a lot of depth. And he's got to step up. This is his year to do it. Derek Henry, nine million bucks, 30 years old, 2,000 carries under his belt. Where are you on this? It's King Henry, by the way. Sorry. And I saw. I mean, no disrespect. I was watching the game. And before the game, they had a working out. They had a little thing with King Henry working out. And I've never seen anything like this. This guy is the Jim Brown of today. Okay. We mentioned Kansas City. We didn't run the ball. Probably the reason why they didn't win the game. Usually when you give up. If you're defensively that goes a hole in the 17 point selection, you should win the game at home. Yes, championship game. What was the difference running the ball? John Harbaugh sent out a statement by signing in the front office. They said we are running the ball. Now, keep in mind, they have an offensive line in transition. So what's the best thing to help the offensive line? It's going to take the offensive line. They lost three starters and good players. So what's the best way to help out a developing offensive line? Run the damn ball, right? So John in the front office that we're getting King Henry, Aussie with the Alabama ties. I mean, we saw a lot of Alabama guys get signed off season. They keep coming in. This is a guy that can force the offensive coordinator to run the damn ball. And this is what you want. If you're a Ravens fan, you're going to get a combination of the two. Okay, I can, you know, you talk about the zone read option with Lamar and King Henry. There's so many things that they're going to be able to do. You know, is Greg Roman going to be reinvented? No, I don't think so. Okay, because you got like, you know, likely and answers and things like that. But you're going to have to run the ball at the beginning of this season to get this offensive line. There's a lot of work that has to be done with this offensive line. John Gruden used to say, it's like a course mind. It's a Broadway course. Like they have to step and work together. Getting five guys to that level is going to take time. They don't they don't hit like they used to in the old days in the off season. What we saw, we talked about four he's what we saw Friday night was the first time these guys had the pads on her, wow, and they're just coming together. And I'm telling you, we don't know who's going to be playing where this is going to take the whole preseason to figure out. We are live at the angle by the sea here in Ocean City. It's a four hour Bobby DePaul extravaganza. She's coming out and see us two for one. She's storing happy hours. Happy hour has begun here at the angle. When we come back, your opportunity to ask Bobby DePaul a question for 10583 1057. We also have an interesting NIL conversation. You're going to want to hear that. That is next inside access with the till six here on the fan. We all belong outside. 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We're here five times a week to get you ready for your fantasy football drafts with top-notch insights. Get the upper hand on your fantasy football season. Follow and listen to Upper Hand Fantasy on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. People, four one oh five eight three one oh five seven you have any Raven's questions for ultimate football guy Bobby DePaul call in now he will answer them. Before we get to that Bobby we wanted to have this NIL discussion you had an interesting idea. Well I mean I do have a day job as we mentioned last fall and that's working for Sumer Sports and we're an advanced analytics company and we get hired by a lot of the NFL teams now and we've got a huge staff. Actually this staff is headed up by Thomas to meet you off the former GM of Atlanta Falcons. We've got Mike Mayock who's been an NFL network. Yeah it was with the Raiders. We've got Phil Emery's with the Falcons with me in Chicago, General Manager Chicago. I mean just so many people like the list goes on but make a long story short. Last year I had the AFC north of the AFC South. This year we restructured I have all the defensive tackles for college. I did a hundred college evaluations in the spring for next year's draft. You want to talk about advanced analytics this is how you do it. We are creating the AI of scouting for the NFL people that's the future that's where we're all heading so they've hired all these people to experience because AI is about the data. The AI information is only as good as the data that is fed to it. So this gentleman by the name of Paul Tudor Jones who owns the company with a son Jack brought us in and we are feeding 400 years of experience into this system. So now I have college defensive tackles and the pro defensive tackles moving forward and eventually we're going to drop down to high school because when you if you play golf you think about caddies these head coaches in college football right now it's chaos because it's free agency every year for their players. So we're evaluating all their players now and when you have the evaluation we set the value. We're going to help they have they're hiring cat people. I mean I talked to Mike Loxie he sent me a text he's like hey I got a list of I'm trying to build a pro department you know like an NFL pro department because I have to evaluate all these guys. I haven't got back with you Mike but let me tell you something we could save you a lot of money and time because we are already evaluating all the players and so I'm in golf you have caddies what we envision is these head coaches calling us okay defense attack we'll call Bob and Paul okay coach you know here's my board just like a draft board in the NFL. Here's who I like he's playing over here he's playing over here you might remember him from college that type of thing and you know I was talking we hired Chuck Brezzanahan you know he's got live back I was telling Chuck Brezzanahan the other day I said you know the first thing a head coach is going to ask is what's your process and how did you come up with these names. Right. They trust us that's what this is all about they'll be able to see that we know the players and eventually they'll be able to call us the 1-800 I need a player okay. Now who assigns them will you or the AI or someone at Sumer assign a monetary value of how much you think of their NIL budget they should dictate to this player or are you just giving them rankings? Well are you doing so are you doing the cap form? We have cap people we have cap we have pro we have college okay so it all it's like a it's like a samskop it all because one-stop shopping right right so it all feeds in and then they these guys are smart they're MIT Jack graduated from MIT so they have all these people that they have the analytics they know what they're doing it's not my area right okay my mind is really what the player is okay so we're smoking the wheel and it creates this stack okay kind of like you heard the cost of talking about their board yeah we have our board I have my board for next year already these guys are just now getting to it right okay and you know they that's why you have blusto you have national because they're the kind of the advanced scouts for the college kind of create guys so I guess with this defensive line class since you've done all the legwork on them is it a good crop well there's a big kitty uh you know it's funny I was talking uh and I'm gonna mention any names you guys can realize what I'm talking to when you're on my own mission and it's but I was talking to a head coach before the draft and I said hey these defensive tackles are short for this year I've kind of looked at them this year I said now next year you've been waiting yeah you you and you know what the head coach said to me goes never had that information before I said you're right come to think of it I've never had that information before but he was able to say that's great information because now I know hold off on the defensive level this year let's go next year the only walker Kentucky wait till you see this guy reminds me of jumping together some of you this guy's a beast we're talking six six okay you got Mason Graham up at Michigan there's a kid named Walter Nolan down at Ole Miss I mean South Carolina's got TJ Sanders I mean there's I know where the guys are you know what I mean the diamonds in the rough so I'm not going to give you all our information people pay for it yeah but like I said I have a stack and about a hundred players for next year draft now they're all not you know on average there's only 21 defensive tackles that get picked and in the draft so you think about it I have a board of 100s only 21 of them get drafted on average per year so you got to know your numbers you know what I'm saying how much of a step forward do you think Travis Jones can take this year I saw the tape okay he played great the other okay he's taking the next step based off what I'm looking at later on on the show we'll talk about I did a little study in an ASC north and breaking down the trenches okay and and right now the Ravens are in great shape inside based off what I've seen coming up I'll go oh I'm sorry about that we're gonna I'm talking about Travis Jones I think he's gonna take another step just like Matt Abouquet did right that guy's a monster now yep you know I can him a long time ago well he's a big body that can push the pocket and when you have that height that's a distraction for the quarterback when they step up and that's what you're looking for and that kid at Kentucky that's what he does he's like playing badminton with the ball coming up next so one of the big questions this season is this new kickoff and what the heck it's gonna look like it looked weird Friday night Ravens and Eagles were Chris Tabor long time special teams coach in the NFL Bears Browns Carolina Panthers he joins us next here on the fan live from the angler by the sea here in Ocean City it's a special Bobby DePaul edition of Inside Access and one of the big questions about this season is what the heck this new kickoff is going to look like so Bobby DePaul has enlisted an expert to help us learn about it he's a long time special teams coordinator National Football League was most recently the Intermed coach of the Carolina Panthers it's Chris Tabor and Chris thank you so much for joining us we appreciate your time before we get into the kickoff how did you and the ultimate football guy cross paths Bobby DePaul oh well thanks for having me guys no Bobby D when I was my first go around in Chicago under Coach Lovey Smith there Bobby was running our pro personnel department and and that's that's where we cross paths and then we hooked up again another stint when with the Cleveland Browns there so no Bobby long time does a great job and I know he has a lot of great insight for you guys well Chris Tabor invented the conveyor belt oh okay so special teams and coaches and personnel departments special teams coaches we have fan Bobby's fan club is everywhere groupies jumping Bobby while we're on air so so so so the first of the departments and the special teams coaches work hand in hand because you know there's old we're always dealing with injuries or we need players uh you know to come in uh you know quickly and sometimes we were in players and we think are better you know linebackers and the head coaches and the coordinators are but Chris Tabor he invented the conveyor belt you bring them down to the special teams guys and they get them going and start building their confidence up next thing you know the linebacker coach likes the guy because the special teams go to put their steel puts their seal on them well coach you've had a chance to um digest these new rules we've now had a a week of full exhibition games and I know that you're talking to a lot of guys in the league as well how big of a deal is this and and do you think that the teams that are gutsy enough to sort of play on the edges here or or try to maybe get a little cute will hold that stuff back rather than actually try it out and see it in in theory and practice in these in these preseason games well I you know it's obviously still a work in progress and I think probably a lot of guys are still trying to figure out some things I mean they're just simple simple things with regards to how you want to drop your front line guys that are only five yards away from the defender and trying to find out where the ball's being kicked and located and then getting on your guy to block I mean those those are all things I think guys are working through um I I it seems like the media uh maybe was hoping for more big returns but you know you saw some big returns here uh later on these uh later later games in preseason one and I just think it's it's going to be like I say a work in progress but I think it's I think the league is doing a good good thing by you know trying to enhance this play and and not just settle for the touchbacks. Chris how difficult is this going to be for the officials because it is so condensed with just two lines of players and all of this action is happening at once. Well I you know I think the officials do a good job and I'm you know and I do I think and I've always said this I know people sometimes get on officials but they have the toughest job and those guys have to make decisions quickly with the close condensed spaces um I think they'll I think they'll be fine I think they'll be able to um you know if you think about it with the old kickoff and guys running from the 35 and getting a full head of steam um and then they engage their blocker does the block you know naturally sometimes the blockers hands go around the outside and then the player replaces his hands inside for a legal block well the official has to kind of sometimes sort through that. I think with them closer together I think the the I don't want called illegal blocking but the hands outside the frame and those things will be easier to detect uh but it is everything is happening fast and I think that's probably what everyone's trying to get used to right now. Talking to Chris Taber it's inside access here on the fan. Chris just carries your opinion number one is this kickoff going to lead to more player safety and and the future of the kickoff because there is a theory that eventually they're going to get rid of it completely. Are you worried that the kickoff is going to going to eventually go the way the dinosaur? Well I hope it doesn't ever go away. I mean think think about it. I mean as we all grow up and you know back in the day when you know they they kick the ball off in the Super Bowl and they have a ground shot so everyone can see all the camera lights going off. I I think those are still important things. I know it'll be different now uh but just with regards to setting field position. I mean it's not we're not playing in our backyard anymore where we're going to start saying hey let's play make it take it. Um I I think for example if you have a team that struggles offensively you know and but you're good on defense and you're good on special teams well it's your right to be able to try to set field position as opposed to some arbitrary number say well if you score we'll just put the ball right here at the at the 25 yard line and see if you can go the whole way. You know you know big returns even if even if you only get the ball out you only if you get the ball out to the 40 yard line just imagine I mean one first down and now put you in an area where now you're pooching the ball and you've reset field position and then maybe you score the next series. So I hope it never goes away. I think that would be my mind obviously a travesty. I mean thing about football is a game of field position and so it's about acquiring land and you have to be able to set that you just can't have an arbitrary number. I do think with the condensed version I think the guys the coaches and the league have done a good job of trying to obviously shrink the space and the speed in those in those collisions and I and I think that's a good thing for the game because obviously today's player is it's different than what it was 20 years ago. They're bigger stronger and faster it's just the way it is and I think that the league is trying to stay up with that and adjust accordingly. Coach from the return side of things do you see the potential for trickeration or razzle dazzle? I know it would take some cajones but somebody running right and throwing back left to the other you know to the other back. Do you think some people may try to turn this into an explosive play? I think you could see that. I think obviously game situation will always override some of those decisions. I think the one thing that when you see some of those big returns that took place this weekend it kind of turns into a little bit if we could inside zone so to speak it's starting in the balls bending back you know the kickoff teams when you're kicking off from the 35 you could essentially come down in waves and there would be you know it's like having a defensive line of linebackers and secondaries that there's levels there now with the way it is I think guys are trying to figure out how are we going to get those different waves of coverage because like the Kansas City the Jacksonville Kansas City game I mean the Jacksonville guy does it obviously looks like a punt return just making guys miss and and if your coverage is all on one line I mean think of it as cover zero on offense and boom you get through you're gone so I think those are things that everyone's still trying to work through and it's going to be interesting to see how the game evolves I really guys this is going to be a thing that's going to go on for a few weeks you know as guys get more comfortable and get more reps about what works and what doesn't work and and who they want to attack it'll be interesting. Chris they obviously did this rule change to to get more action in the game for more returns in the game but that all being said could you envision halfway through the season that teams are still going to have their kickers just kick it through the end zone. Well I do think you're going to see some of that since the ball is going to be spotted at the 30 yard line. I think where it's going to get in your area up there in Baltimore where weather is a factor and obviously coach harves has always done a great job and that staff on special teams and overall as a team but you know hey if we can get guys down there into you know to tackle inside the 20 or get them at the 22 yard line and now that offense we stop them with our good defense and now they're punting into the wind and we get a short field boom we score again I just I think when you look at it as opposed to just it's just a kickoff kickoff return play look at it totally it within the game of football of how it could affect things and I think that's what makes it it's going to make it exciting like I say I'm not going to lie to you when I first saw it it does it looks different because that's where we're used to certain things but I think like anything the more reps that are on TV and and and we start seeing some plays or guys I know everyone wants to see big returns but guys tackles inside the 20 that those are good things too it just depends how you want to look at it and I think I think that I just want to let make a point that the Raven fans need to know that you helped coach with Dave Toe Devin Hester and you were at the Hall of Fame for Hester a couple weeks ago so you're using big returns and set and field positions brother no no and then we're fortunate to be around a guy like that both of them but but you know and and the Ravens have always had good returners also in my time playing them whether it was at the Bears or I was a long time in Cleveland got a lot of respect for for the guys that they get but it's just I think I think the narrative guys and you guys have kind of said it you want more big returns and those things I get all that but but putting people back and making offenses work I think that's those those are good things too it's how your team is built and I think fans need to look how is our team built and and what advantage does that give us Chris Taber this was great man thanks so much coach time we appreciate it okay James thanks guys thank you thank you coming up next live from the angler T-bone time TMI TIM what you got got a lot of ground to cover because I was out at training camp yesterday and eventful day at the castle but also Ken and I we spent the night at Chuck Buck's about that it was and the red leap over Chuck the red carpet was out we will get into it next Italian hospitality baby T-bone time TMI with TIM and the floor is yours it is a special ocean city edition yes version of TMI with Bobby to Paul where else would you rather be well we were at Chuck Buck's establishment the villa the villa the villa last night the beach compound we get in we like it was like being on Lake Como with George Clooney it was I'm sure we went to his clubhouse I guess is that what you would call it signatures so this is like on the golf course yeah pretty much pretty much you're on the golf course had had some dinners drinks then we went back by the way you guys all drove down together or no we drove I left her yeah okay so it was his wife his wife sister and two of Chuck Buck's friends yeah two of Chuck Buck's his friends and one of his friends friend humongous Bobby D yes apparently he's coming by yeah at some point around four thirty oh four thirty so we'll be seeing him sometime soon but yeah man and then we went back to his place really nice place he he made a 15 bed made his breakfast plenty of room yeah made us breakfast in the morning gave us the tour of the whole facility talked about how hard the golf course was he'd take you out to the uh chipping rain button ranger he showed us and then he gushed about the 91 Washington football team oh yeah the then red skin never seen him happier oh my god he was he was just oh he's glowing up glowing I'd be willing to bet Chuck Buck's is happier about the 91 red skins than the birth of his children I I think so his well I guess I shouldn't say what his pet I guess I shouldn't say what your passport is but it doesn't fall so wait wait so everybody had their own bedroom you know I didn't say it in same bed twin twin beds yeah oh but it wasn't bunk beds but I was hoping there better be a picture I was there oh but you were in the same room yes you're like in the kid's room yeah yeah which called the kid's room yeah yeah nice and Chuck Buck's cooked dinner for you guys for breakfast breakfast also you had dinner at the club signature yes he made his egg sandwiches they were chocolate croissant chopped up watermelon I mean it was really like wow yeah it was unreal did you know it was coming or like were you guys still asleep and he just came in with plates or I paint me a picture no I got up early I went for a run yeah and then he dassed you on eggs I came downstairs and he was wearing nothing but a kiss but an apron that's a kiss that's what I was picturing yes so I missed out just coming down with my family this morning yeah you really did miss I missed like some serious I a bonding it sounds like it was very big I a bonding and earlier in the day I was out at one winning drive and one of the biggest happenings unfortunate happenings was Kyle Hamilton yeah thankfully sounds like he is fine he was according to the beat guys they're working off to the side and John Harbaugh was in a great mood despite all of that and gave out a ton of injury updates obviously we talked a lot about Wiggins Bateman he said that he felt Bateman was you know ready to go he was back at practice today for a little bit not working himself back yeah Rashin Ali Sanusi Kane those were stingers lender bomb they feel like he'll be good come week one Malette Malette he kind of said in passing that he was going to miss regular season of course he is but some other big takeaways from practice Lamar got off to a rough start Hamilton had an interception early on but then he was picking it up and I felt like Lamar and we were talking about with Bobby D about the inaccuracy with deep ball I thought he was throwing a really nice deep ball yesterday there were two deep balls to Nelson Aguilar down the sideline right in the bread basket drops and Lamar was I can't help but think of that interview with the guy and fill it out with the kid throwing out the window throwing throwing his helmet down he had a really nice pass to a flower down the sideline I say a likely it continues to flash there was a play late in the game when it was 11 on 11 late in practice in 11 on 11s he had this one-handed grab left hand over the middle just snagged it right in I mean it was really really impressive uh Matabique was wreaking havoc a lot throughout the day I mean he would have had an easy strip sack of Josh Johnson at that point in practice but do you think we see Rosengarten with the ones this time around well John Harbaugh did say that so he was asked a lot about the offensive line and Rosengarten he said that he wants to see him play one yeah in this next uh I think so this next game I mean as far as the job oh I mean I'm glad they got Jones reps in a couple different places and move some guys around but like I think you need to see Rosengarten against some ones here he was he was pleased with uh Ben Cleveland though like with uh Bobby D was saying at center so no it was anything but a disaster I mean it was it was you know could have gone a whole hell of a lot worse I'll put it that way he's a massive human being that Ben Cleveland is a big dude hey come in I'm next we're going to take a look at the Ravens defense with Bobby DePaul and we've documented their losses from a year ago on defense guys like your David and clowny gino stone patrick queen etc is this about the scheme over personnel we'll ask Bobby D next here on the family today's episode is sponsored by nerd wallet smart money podcast get your head in the financial game with smart investing and budgeting tips straight from the nerds nerd wallets experts will set future you up for 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