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He, despite the fact that Justin Fields having had every opportunity at camp, because obviously Russell Wilson had that calf injury to open things up. He's still saying that Russell Wilson is his QB one. So I don't know how really hugely true of a competition this is right now. Don't be surprised though. Look, don't be surprised if there is indeed a package for Justin Fields. He has shown some very dynamic athleticism. I think that he still needs to, not I think from what I am being told, he still needs to be a little cleaner in terms of reading the field. So here's some opportunity to develop. How much better could they be with a brand in IUC, especially considering they're not, you know, they're not trading, they're starting left tackle form or anything like that, assuming it's a primarily draft pick compensation package. I mean, they don't have it. They're not going to send a first and a third and maybe another third in the future. That's just not it. Guys, let's talk about this. The offense is going to be what the offense is, meaning that the Steelers are never my Tomlin. The Steelers under my Tomlin are never suddenly going to start swinging the ball around and being unbelievably innovative in the way that they use their personnel. That's not been an Arthur Smith offense and that's not been the type of offense that either owner or owner Art Rooney or head coach Mike Tomlin has run or wants to run. They are very, very specific and public in saying the way that they want to play offensive football. So that's number one. Number two, who thinks that it's sort of like dumb-fiance me, this idea that Brandon IU wants to be nowhere but Pittsburgh. Okay, so you've got a defensive minded head coach who isn't particularly innovative offensively, who isn't really all about swinging the ball around. And you've got some serious questions about who's actually delivering the ball from the quarterback position. So there are enough questions that Brandon IU is not the one player that makes this enormous difference in who the Pittsburgh Steelers are. Well, D, let's get to the Ravens and a lot to feel good about with this team. Because I convinced you because you agree that this is sort of a silly circuitous conversation or because I think it could happen. I think there's just been so much smoke. There's just been so much smoke around the fact that the Steelers could bring in a receiver and outside at George Pickens, what do they have? I mean, but do they even have George Pickens? Like, let's be honest, how many hundred yard games does he have in his play? Oh, I'm with you. Is this a guy that is regularly shown that he is consistent, reliable, dependable? His numbers, I was just going over his numbers with somebody and it's jarring. I should have had this pulled up for you so I could have told you, but he's very much a feast or famine. Yeah, he has some one hundred yard games because he has a lot of games where he has less than five catches and less than 50 yards. I'm with you a hundred percent, Aditi. And I think that that's why it kind of necessitates a move. And there's there's been so much smoke around the trade rumors. Kyle Shanahan runs the hell out of the ball to Aditi. Like this guy's right. He's already been in a situation where he's the third or fourth option, right? Like it's run. It's McCaffrey. It's Debo. It's it's chiddle. You know what I mean? And it's you're playing for a guy. You're playing for a guy who wants to put up points. He's constantly thinking of how to put up points. He's constantly innovating the way that he plays off. And yeah, I mean, the sealers right now do not have the compensation that are is enough to make San Francisco pull the trigger. Yeah, we shall see and make a move. So me personally, I wouldn't want to play with either of those quarterbacks and Pittsburgh, but that's just me. You're signing a five year deal. You're going to outlast them. But it's a pretty good organization. Like they've had quarterbacks. Like they've a pretty good lot of games where they lost the coach and the corner. They're starting over with a bunch of dudes who never done it before. It's Mike F and Tomlin. Dudes want to play for Mike F and Tom Mike. Mike Tomlin inherited Ben Rolfus burger and has not had any success at choosing his next quarterback. There was a time when people thought that not thought that, you know, the Steelers had a first run grade on Mason Rudolph that Mike Tomlin loved my Mason read off. That didn't work out. Obviously, can you pick it? That didn't work out. Now here we have Russell Wilson who's. He's Russell Wilson. Sean Payton. Yeah. Once I'm trying to think about how to be diplomatic about all this. Maybe we should move on. How about those Ravens. Let's get to the Ravens. Indeed. Russell Gage. I was just I was just talking to a friend of mine who. It has been on the football side of things for a long, long time with multiple organizations is a super bowl winner and now has somewhat recently moved to TV and he's been on a training camp tour and we were sort of joking about how fans get so riled up about training camp stats or, you know, what somebody's completion percentage in shorts and what can you really see and who's really that impressive and he's bit to. Let's say roughly eight or nine different places and that we were kind of talking about questions everywhere this that and the other. I said, well, is there anyone you've seen that's impressive? Is there anyone that you feel like? Yeah, this seems good and he said the Ravens. And I trust this guy. I trust him a lot considering his background that the fact that he was so easy and quick for him to kind of. Slow the role and everybody else, but unequivocally say yeah, the Ravens are already humming a bit that meant something to me. And there's really one last couple question marks, but the big one for me is the offensive line where they're trying to replace three of their five starters from last year does that give you pause. I think it always does just because there's no unit that relies on chemistry, camaraderie, time on task together more than the offensive line. And so I like the way things project. I like essentially what I'm hearing. There doesn't seem to be a lot of panic, but I think that that's one of those things that you really need to see it and you need to see it in action. We're talking to a DD Kinkaball. It's inside access here on the fan. What about in Cleveland a DD? Obviously, they made the late run last year with Joe Flacco. Are you Sean Watson sick of the BS and he is sick of the BS. The BS that just flies from the sky and hits him for him. No comment, no comment. Are you forget right for the next three weeks, I'm the bear size. I mean, that's the bear. So my goodness, I can't even get it. He's inside buying reporter. Are you buying the Browns as a team? As a contender, as a team a year ago, I loved the chemistry, the camaraderie, the way that guys genuinely played for the guy next to them. It had been a long time since I'd felt that a defense was as close as that defense was and that team just kept on taking hits, whether it was Nick Chubb. I mean, you go down the line, how many key, key, key important players did they lose last year? And Kevin Stefanci and Andrew, Andrew Barry kept finding someone and Kevin Stefanci kept plugging that someone in. And Joe Flacco being the best example of that. They've retooled a lot. They have a new offensive coordinator. They have a new tight-end coach. They have a new O-line coach. They're obviously tweaking and evolving their offense, which Kevin Stefanci said obviously is the goal every single year. We know that the Ravens have done the same, but they've done it sort of in a very jarring way because they've brought in all these fresh ideas and they're implementing these fresh ideas. And obviously, you're not going to see a lot of that in the preseason and the less that we talk about it, the better it is for my future since Kevin Stefanci said, "Let's not talk about certain things." So that's the Cowboys here, the Cowboys being their weak one opponent, but you are going to see an augmented passing game that perhaps suits these players a bit more. And there's certainly a lot of excitement from the wide receivers in terms of the freedom that they'll have with the abundance of choice routes and sort of the changes that are coming in. So I guess the question here is, now I'll get to talk to Deshawn for the first time myself this weekend, but from everyone I'm talking to within the organization and around the organization, he is markedly more comfortable. And whether that's comfortable in the operation, comfortable in the organization, comfortable in the locker room, comfortable in the offense, whatever, all of those things, I mean, at some point, it has to add up to something, right? The expectations are there and we've sort of had a mitigating circumstance or a mitigating factor every year up until now. >> Didi Kinkabolo will be on the sidelines for the Browns during the preseason and then, of course, working for CBS once the regular season begins. Didi, always great. Please don't be a stranger. We do love talking to you. Thank you, Aditi. >> Anytime you call, you know, I say yes. It's always great talking to you guys. >> Thanks so much, Aditi. Enjoy the Browns. Have an awesome season. >> Thanks. Bye, guys. >> Coming up next, the Ravens gave us an update. John Harbaugh specifically gave us an update on Arthur Mollett yesterday after practice. 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So we can revisit it when we get close to the start of the season and talk about it. John Harbaugh yesterday discussing Arthur Mallette, who of course the word got out a couple days ago, I think they said he had a knee situation. Now he says it's a scope. I think NFL Network is reporting that before practice. Being out there yesterday, talking to some people, it sounds like a six to eight week kind of thing. So we're sitting here about a month out from the start of the season. As we get closer to the season, I guess they have to decide whether they put him on IR, which means he'll miss the first four weeks, or they think he can get back. Remember, they've missed on that before. Remember, didn't they not put Bowser on IR? And then they don't think you would just put this guy on IR. And having for week five, I mean, now they don't have to set their final roster. Now everything's all at once, right? They changed it again. Now it's all after the third season. So you'll have taken in the entirety of the preseason and you'll be able to assess your depth at that point. I still think you put them on either way. And I know they changed the rule also this year because remember, they used to have like the wink, wink, nod, nod with some of the veterans, like a Brettner bin, for example. Like maybe you cut him and play Scott. Where now I don't, I think you can put two guys on IR, you know, during the cut down time. So he could obviously be one of those guys, but it comes at their deepest position group. But I mean, right now, he's right now. He was really good for them last year. 65.8 passer rating against him, we know what he could do blitzing from the nickel corner spot. And also this training camp. He's been one of the big standouts. And just to point out, let's assume he goes on IR miss the first four games. That's at Chiefs, home against Raiders at Cowboys, home against Bills. That's three other than the Raiders. That's three legit quarterbacks. Yes. Three Pro Bowl. Um, yeah, I think, look, this team is super baller bust. I think you're playing the long game here. They've continued to draft defensive backs. They always draft defensive backs. Um, we know a Kyle Hamilton can do in the slot. We know if they have a full compliment of corners that Marlon could do more damage in the slot. And Arthur Mullette was a very effective player for them, but I think he was very effective in part because they, they, they, they could really hone in on where he excels in the type of body types that he matches up with in the slot. And certainly Mike McDonald had a very keen sense of when to deploy him as a blitzer and his get home rate was astonishingly high. Now, will that remain the same in, in this new iteration of the defense, um, remains to be seen, but like they've got other guys they could activate in that role as well. So, um, look, if he's back in some time in October and in the meantime, you've expanded the skill set of a Jalen armor Davis or something like that, then it could actually be a win for you long term. Well, it is a Jalen armor Davis. Does Marlon Humphrey get kicked inside? I mean, is it Kyle Hamilton inside at the nickel where you have Eddie Jackson now, or you have another competent safety in the back end? So you do have options there. Yeah. I, I think, and Jason, I think you made a good point right now, they're incredibly deep at corner. Here before you have a couple injuries all of a sudden, but this to me, maybe Pepe Williams has an opportunity to make this roster because of this. I will say this. It looks like TJ Tampa might be back on the practice field next week. He was working out on another field yesterday, see, it looks like he might be close to getting back. So there's even another corner Jalen armor Davis did not have a good day. Was it Monday, but he had been really good the two weeks prior. So they do it, they do have options at least at the moment. Yeah. And again, I think, you know, I'd be really surprised if they didn't just go ahead, clear a roster spot for somebody else and, you know, Arthur Mallette, you're going to be back week five. If everything goes according to plan, like that's, that's our goal. That's what we're shooting for. You're going to spend the first month on the sidelines. It makes sense. Like why risk it if you, if you have, if you have any question, give them the extra time. Yeah. And, and we've pointed out, they've missed on this before saying, you know what, we're going to keep them off. I are getting back early and then the other one, yeah, just having back for week five, week five. If you care about these things is the bangles in Cincinnati, get our good quarterback, good blitzer, good quarter, good, good corner blitzer back for that game. There you go. Coming up next, we sorted it out in eight, seven minutes. We did it. I hope they were listening. We just, we just, we just gave them what to do. Whether there's an intern or somebody was, somebody's monitoring that we gave them the blueprint made it pretty easy to do what we can. And we try to help sometimes. Hey, coming up next, Maryland basketball season is right around the corner and the university of Maryland announced their new hall of fame, their, their athletic department hall of fame class. Part of that class, he was a national champion, Lonnie Baxter joining the Maryland athletics department hall of fame. And he joins us next year on the fan. It's incredible how fast things happen. Ravens play their first preseason game tomorrow night. Before you know it, Maryland basketball will be on the courts playing games. And just announced recently that their athletics hall of fame class. Part of that class from the Maryland basketball program, he won a national championship with the Terps. It's Lonnie Baxter and Lonnie, thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate your time. So I guess take us back to when you got the announcement, your reaction. Yeah, they had told me, you know, about two months ago, I was a zoom call with Damon Evans, coach Gary Williams and Laura. I mean, I was just shocked, you know, that they, they, they picked me to go because I mean, there's so many reasons why they shouldn't have picked me, but they should. And I was just so, you know, I made me being from the state of Maryland, you know, growing up in Silver Spring, always wanted to play for Maryland when in the national championship, but now, you know, this inductions means the world of me. Lonnie, it's crazy. It's been 22 years since you guys won the national championship in '02, but going back to the prior season, how much did that final four loss to do kind of fuel you guys going into the following year? I mean, that loss was everything for us. We felt like we should have competed for a national championship in 2001, but some things that happened that were out of our control and the next year, we just made sure that it would never happen again. As someone who, as you know, to grow up in the region and, and solve the rivalry as a fan, right as a kid, and then participated in what the ACC used to be and Maryland going down a tobacco road and banging heads with Duke and UNC, are you totally over the fact that that doesn't exist anymore? Like, are you at peace with the Big Ten and modern, you know, college, big-time money athletics? I mean, it's definitely different times, you know, when I see Maryland play Michigan, it's not the same rivalry. We don't really hate those guys or if they're playing, you know, Michigan State or Wisconsin or Ohio State. It's not like a Duke, you know, NC State, Virginia, those, those teams we used to play. So it's definitely, you know, just different time. I mean, I, I play, what, 22 years ago, like you said, so it is, it's just a different era now. We're talking to Lonnie Baxter's inside access here in the fan line. I want to take you back to some of what you said and just piggybacking much. Oh, Jason just asked you being from the area, dreaming of playing at Maryland and then to be a part of the only teams that went to final fours at Maryland, going to back-to-back final fours and bringing home that banner, how, how much does that all mean to you? Not only being a part of it, being a big part of it. Oh, yeah. You know, that, that team we have, we were just so special, we're still close to this day. Everybody speaks, you know, everybody congratulated me, you know, my induction the other day. So we were just a special unit. It's hard to find another team like that. We were just a special group of guys and me being from Maryland. You know, always looking up. So, you know, like I say, when I was in high school, Joe Smith, Boop, Dwayne Simkins, X-Ree Hip, Johnny Rose, those were the guys that I was looking up to that I wanted to be like, and that's how I ended up in Maryland. It was obviously a very talented group, but the fact that you guys didn't have a McDonald's All-American on that national championship, it's just how much pride did you take in just being that cohesive group that grinded for it? And everybody asked me that question, I always tell him, you know, Gary Williams was a coach that was always able to do more with less. He just always got the best out of his players, whether it was me, Juan Dixon, Chris Wilcox. I mean, before, you know, Greetis Baskler came to Maryland, no one knew who he was. I mean, if you just see what Gary's energy, his passion, his intensity, he just transfers it to his players like no other can. So you mentioned Coach Williams. We are very big fans of Coach Patzos who spends a fair amount of time in our studios here. He is always full of exquisite, worldly life advice. What kind of an impact did he make on you? Are there any favorite stories of his that you can tell on air? Probably not on air, you know, that's my favorite coach, that's my one of the best human beings in the world. My best friends, you know, we're still close to this day as well. I mean, Jimmy is just the best, you know, he's the guy that'll give you the shirt off his back, you know, and he has for me plenty of times, you know, that's why I love him. And Jimmy Patzos is just one of those, one of those guys that made everything happen for a lot of us at Maryland. He is the optimist, optimist. He is the, we call him Jimmy Sunshine here on the program because he is always positive. Was he like that as a coach? Yes, he was, you know, he was the guy that always kept us together, you know, when things didn't go right, you know, he was the guy that always, you know, would come to us, you know, encourage us. And like I say, he's just one of those guys that you just can't find anywhere. Lonnie, what about the program today? Do you still keep tabs on it? What have you thought of Kevin Willard and the direction in which it's going? Kevin, what is doing a great job? You know, last year was a little down, but he's come in. He's making a lot of, you know, right moves are going to right directions. You know, I mean, it's just so hard these days with the NIL and the transfer portals, you know, it's really hard to build like it was back in the day when we played. But they're making the right steps, recruiting the right players and things are going to go well for the therapists. Lonnie Baxter will go into the Maryland Athletics Hall of Fame October 18th is when they will hold the ceremony. It's at the College Park Marriott Hotel and conference center reception will begin at 530 with dinner to follow at 630 for ticket information. Please call the M club office at 301-314-6394 or visit go dot Maryland go dot UMD dot edu backslash HOF 2024 Lonnie Baxter, congrats. You deserve it, man. Thank you so much for your time. All right. Thanks for having me. I appreciate you guys. Appreciate it. Also, with Lonnie Baxter, Patty course in Robbins, women swimming, Jill Fisher, galley, gymnastics, Patrick Mullins, men's soccer, Kate Schwartzman, women's lacrosse, Alyssa Thomas, women's basketball, autumn Welch, Kelly Field Hockey and Lee Zink men's lacrosse going into that Hall of Fame class. Patrick Mullins scored a lot of big goals. I knew you knew him. Yeah. He scored a lot of big goals. When I went in Sasho and the Terps were going to final forest. You want to tell the story again how you kick that ball and everybody was real impressed there. I only tell that story when I'm on campus. Yeah. If there's a God above on that campus a lot, maybe this time next year, moving a young young Terp in there as a freshman, I'll tell, I'll tell the hell out of that story. Rocco. Hopefully going on. I'll raise money for, I'll help raise money for your program, Sasho, I'll do anything you guys want. Yeah. Give the shirt off your back. Like something else. Yeah. I'll go full Patzos. Yeah. Let's go. Nobody goes full Patzos. Who would be the best damn manager you've ever had? Hey, coming up next, we get back to baseball and all the young dudes is next and we focus on one young dude in particular and that's one Jackson holiday who keeps on keeping on. That's next here on the fan. Oh, two pitch hit team, right field and Jackson holiday has Homer in a third straight game. The Orioles take a fourth really. He's got a nice swing and there's a lot of things that work in that swing and he's got a lot of confidence and he's really can get on a fastball and I just think you see the confidence growing, honestly, up here at this level, a little bit of success and all of a sudden you start feeling good in the batter's box and getting some huge hits, three nights in a row. So that's really happy for him. You're the highlight courtesy of SportsNet and then Brandon and I talking about Jackson holiday and what's working for him when he was sent down. He was batting 059 with one RBI. This is recall he's betting 292 with four homers in 10 RBIs and he's the youngest player in American League history to Homer in three straight games. Maybe don't pitch it for him. I would never pinch it. Maybe let him maybe let him take all his acts here. He's feeling pretty good right now. His heart hit rate, absolutely phenomenal even when he's not getting on base last night he hit the crap. Yeah. Making loud contact. Everything seems to be squared up and a line drive and he's already incrementally starting to work his way up the line of bat seven tonight. He's working his way up. I was thinking about this last night about second baseman and we've talked before and I've mentioned Pedroia and I mentioned Altuve. How about could tell Marte who's probably going to finish second in the end of the beast. He's second baseman. I seem to remember there was a fellow that played second base here a couple of years named Roberto Alamar who for he played here three years for two of those years was arguably one of the best players in baseball. This team could have the double play combination this, this, this generation's version of Tremblin Whitaker with Gunnar and Jackson Holiday playing short and second. Yeah. I just, I mean, far be it for me to be Debbie Downer but like, yeah, I'll never move. That's just been a tale. Never. We've been Whitaker and travel span decades. Yeah. These two, if we get four years, okay, but that, but the reality is the money has changed. Change things there. They may not stay together forever and control and labor strife. Yeah. Guys fighting for free agency and five years of this, I will too. But like I'm just saying, like I, I think we, hey, if, and if we need to couch it a little bit because like enjoy it, yeah, you're going to enjoy it, but I mean, I don't know that we're going to be able to make historical comparisons because there's no way in hell that bro signing Scott Boris controls the middle infield of the Baltimore Orioles and I got news for him. Westford. Yes. He's going to want Jackson holiday whenever it is time for Jackson holiday to get paid to be paid as a shortstop and not a second baseman. That's fine. They both can't play shortstop at the same time. Here's what I remember. Manny Machado wanted to be paid as a shortstop. He ended up being a third base because that's where the team would pay him. Yeah. And then he ended up getting $200 million somewhere else and we had a great time with Manny. What was it? Five years. Yeah. That's fine. I'm going to enjoy it. I'm going to enjoy it. And what we are seeing is a power surge that we didn't see it. Norfolk. Well, he Homer 10 times in 266 at bats, it's got four homers in 24 at bat since being recalled and obviously he's not anywhere even close to qualifying in terms of baseball savants, analytics pages. But even with the rough first stint, I mean, guys, his hard hit percentage, barrel percentage, average exit velocity. I get it. It's a small, small sample size, but I mean, they are way on the right side of the screen. Look, the homers are going to regress. This is like, like, well, he's not going to Homer. Right. That's what I'm saying. Like this pace is it's not at some point in his life when he puts on a little more weight. I mean, again, he he's still more boy than mass 20. Okay. So like the home runs to be our cherry on top. Like they're awesome. I'll take them whenever we get them. I don't think that's going to be the calling card for him for the next for his first couple of seasons in the league. I'm not saying he doesn't have power. I'm not saying he can't hit 15 or 20, but right now he's on an infinite pace that will regress, but it's the quality of that back at bat. It's the approach. It's going up there and watching him dictate rather than watching him flail. It's watching the pitcher have to squirm versus the pitcher knowing I can get him out with a sweeper away. I can get him out with Velo up high. I could get him out with something in his hands. Like it's he's fouling off the pitches he needs to foul off. He's not scared to do damage with two strikes. He's using the entire field. The toe tap is not as extreme his his he's on time to the fastball in ways that he wasn't half the year enough. Not even just the 10 game sample size here. Like you read a lot of industry publications. You talk to some scouts like that his batting average on balls in the upper quadrants over 95 miles an hour was really low. That doesn't seem to be a problem right now. Um, he's seeing the ball really well too. Like he that he, I think it was a breaking ball that he crushed it. He didn't get enough lift on it and, uh, and George Springer made a nice running catch, but it was like 103 miles an hour off the bat. Getting on base, having this approach, working counts, squaring the ball up. I'm here for all of it. And the one thing we haven't seen yet, we haven't seen him doing anything on the base pass. And I still feel like that. I mean, there's no reason why this kid, if he gets on base as much as we think he's going to, um, with his speed and agility and baseball instincts, can't steal 20 and 25 bases feels like really, really doable to me, but we, we haven't seen that activated. Yeah. He's in the 88th percentile and sprint speed and not to go in a completely different direction, but gunner Henderson too. I mean, I don't understand why he has legs aren't activated on the base. So I want to follow up on something you said. He's moving up the lineup and you, and you, you mentioned he's batting seventh in tonight's lineup. Won't get you the lineup in a little bit, but is there a time when we could see him maybe obviously Colton Calzer has got a strangle hole in that right now, but is Jackson holiday, the future lead off hitter of this team? Absolutely. That's what I, yeah, that's, that's where I am. I mean, I think that would be absolutely positively the long term plan that they might get there by October, I don't know, but certainly spring training next year. I mean, he had hit lead off all the time and not fuck like that's not, they're not doing that like rolling the dice every day and said, Oh, it came up for him to bad lead off again. Like that. Yeah, they're building for this. Isn't it funny that it seemed like it was always going to be gunner leading off an Adley batting second. And now that's, that seems to be a thing of a pass because Adley's batting fifth tonight and gunners batting. He's been in the three hole for a while now. No, I mean, I, I think the plan is like we're talking opening day, 2026, 2026. I think you got Jackson Holly leading off. I think you got to wreak a Bradfield junior hitting ninth who's getting on basic time. It's just high a, but like I think he'd get the double A this year. Like you'd have, that would be a hell of a book end to line up a lot of speed. I want to talk about a youngish dude, but he's not as young as these other guys. But Cedric Mullins, like they pinched it Slater over Mullins and pinch, they put him in defensively over Mullins. Did you notice that? Oh, I noticed it. Yeah. What do you think? I noticed it. Well, they would just tell you it's all about, they think Slater could hit lefties and they don't trust Mullins to hit lefties. It's a little, it's, it's odd to me. Yeah. It was noticeable. And then, and then Slater played that play in left field in ninth inning. Very odd to me, especially because there was a decent sample size of said. I mean, the numbers were really ticking up. I mean, you're talking over a 30 plus game stretch. He's back in the starting lineup tonight, but that's after not being in the starting line of the past couple nights. It is odd. Yeah. I mean, part of me is like when we get to the playoffs, they're not going to be putting Ryan O'Hern in left field at Camden Yards, right? So you're going to see Calzer and Mullins in the outfield most of the time. But it's that that's part of it, right? That's kind of the domino effect of Eloy Jimenez in this D.H. role where you're clogged it up. Yeah. By the way, because we're switching gears after this, let me give you the lineup really quickly. Colton, Calzer leading off in left field and the Santander is your D.H. batting second. Gunner Henderson batting third at shortstop, Ryan O'Hern in right field batting fourth, Natalie brought from your catcher, betting fifth, Ryan Mount castle, batting six, the first bait Jackson holiday is the second baseman betting seventh, Cedric Mullins, betting eights in center field. And Ramona Rias is the third baseman batting knife. So no Eloy tonight against the Blue Jays. He's getting his first day off. And if you're keeping score at home, 73% of his contact as an Orioles round balls and his batting average on balls and play batting average of balls and plays seven 27 that will regress. Your point, Kobe Mayo on the fast track, now not in the lineup again tonight. I don't think they want his glove in there. I wonder though, they're going to Tampa indoors. So you're going to be back at third base Friday. Well, I think it also translates very much to the pitcher and when Corbin Burns is out there, would swing and miss stuff is a little different than I would say Rogers and Kramer where a lot of balls are going to be put in play. For me, especially Rogers, I thought it was even more important for Rogers second start for Ramona to be there yesterday and then you know, Mayo today would have made more sense to me. They did it the other way. Although Ramona ended up playing half that game anyway. Yes, he did. Hey, coming up next, it's a Thursday and what would a Thursday be without our friend? I a Hall of Famer Lucy Bird. She's from Beck QL and she joins us next here on the fan trying to figure out what to eat for dinner yet again with North sides and bullion as you're not so secret ingredient. You can skip the drive through and do dinner at home. 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