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We're joined by Odyssey MLB insider Brett Boone, insider calls are presented by Granger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Granger has the right product for you. Call click ranger.com or just stop by. Brett is also the host of the Brett Boone podcast featuring the most notable names in MLB and around sports every week. And Brett, thank you as always for joining us. So both the Orioles and Yankees stumbled to the to the break. Who are you more concerned about the Yankees or the Orioles? This is the first time I think the Orioles are really stumbled. They lost five out of six coming and three out of six. It might be good time to recharge your batteries. Yankees, they could do no wrong for the first two months of the season. I saw them a month ago. I thought I wouldn't want to play these guys right now. But then all of a sudden three weeks of they had a rough run. I think they had a point that went six and 14. Nothing was working. I still think they're two of the elite teams in all the game. Baltimore to me is really intriguing just because of this. I was one of those guys and I admit it now. I was one of those guys in the season watching them win 101 games a year ago. And knowing they were talented bunch, they got burns. He came over. I still didn't think it was enough. I said this team isn't good enough. Well, I'm wrong. I watched these guys. They're young. They've got you and it's that youthful energy that cities back to being some of the great Camden Yards years where the city's coming out. There's been a lot of lean times there recently. And I just like how they play the game. And there's so many, you know, Rushman and Henderson Gunnar get all the headlines. But man, up and down that lineup, these guys are just tough outs and they're just good. They pitch really well, both ends decent. But it's just one of the elite teams. I'm not worried about either one of them. I think the Yankees will get back on track. I think Baltimore will get back on track after this break. And then when it's all said and done, they're going to be one of the elite five teams in all of baseball. I'd be very surprised if either one of them had a tough time in the second half. We've been kicking around the notion of like, we're all conditioned as baseball fans and people who've followed this for a long time to get caught up and who wins divisions. And there's obviously perks that go with it. But how much do you really think it matters? Like with the schedule being the way it is and with them adding wildcard teams and with the rest advantage, almost being too significant, right? Like teams are all for too long. Do you really think it at the end of the day? It's a huge thing, Brett. I think for the first time in our lifetimes, it's completely not, I don't want to say irrelevant, but not very relevant. It used to be in my time, it was, hey, we got to win that division. That marathon was really important to hold up that pennant at the end of the season and go, wow, that automatically said, you got a chance to win the world series. It's a different ball game now. There's 12 seats at the table. There's more playoff spots than there's ever been in the game of baseball. There's more parity than there's ever been. And from a fans perspective, I put my fan hat on now. I think it's great. It's exciting. We're talking about baseball in September, where in yesteryear, we're on to the football season. There's six, seven cities that now are really in a baseball race that would be moved on to football a long, long time ago. I think moving the trade deadline to the two month versus the one month, it really adds a strategic element that I think from a fans perspective is really entertaining. It's like, in the old days, it was easy. It's like you knew you were in or you knew you were out, there were buyers and there were sellers. Now, everybody's kind of in the middle with the exception of four or five teams that we know aren't going to be there this year. I think it's the easiest time ever to get to the postseason. I think it's the toughest time ever to win a world series. There's so many landmines in that postseason to get to that, just to get there and then to win it, I think Arizona proved that a year ago. And if you look at that roster, look at their body of work a year ago. They were definitely not one of the elite teams. But I think it's good for the game. I think it's good for more eyeballs on the game. There's more excitement, but more than ever now. And that's why I watched this Yankee team struggle. I watched the Orioles struggle when in three out of 10 going into the break. You don't worry about that. Another thing that is in is plague today's game that really didn't as much in the past. Yeah, there's always been injuries in the game, but it seems to me, and I don't know if you guys, it seems like everybody's injured all the time. You look up every day. Somebody's having Tommy John. Somebody's out with a hip. Somebody's out with an ankle. That didn't happen in my day. I mean, of course, you guys got hurt. Guys went on the DL now. It's the IL, but it seems every day, every day somebody's going on the 10 day, every single day. So I think more so than ever, what's imperative is for the teams that want to shot, they've got to be healthy going into that playoff run, healthy, good team going into the playoff run. I think health is more important than it's ever been in our game, but but to add to, you know, just to finalize that question. Yeah, I don't think winning is really the most important thing. It's more about a sprint now and not a marathon talking to Brett Boone. It's inside access here on the family. And with that in mind, we're 12 days away from the deadline. Are you expecting a lot of fireworks and big trades on July by July 30th? When it comes to Baltimore. Well, Baltimore and the wrestling, but yeah, Baltimore first. I think Baltimore, I think you could add somebody in the pen, you know, and who we're going to be looking for for that. I don't know, but I think they could add a pen. As far as up and down that roster from an offensive standpoint, I think you got what you need. Everybody would always welcome if that frontline pitcher comes along. But when you think about it now, and especially the faces then rightfully so, you got to do something. This is our year. I understand that. But in the past, as I mentioned earlier, you're at the, you're at that month mark, and everybody kind of knows who the buyers and the sellers are. There's not as many sellers as there used to be because so many more teams are in contention. And then the teams that aren't in contention, usually they're younger teams. They have maybe a veteran with a huge number hooked to them on the other end. So it's not as easy as you think just going out at the deadline and saying, "Oh yeah, get the guy we need." Well, who, you know, I was talking about from an offensive standpoint for some of the teams around the team that really, really need some punch, go get it in a Lonzo from the Mets, go get a Vladimir Guerrero. Now all of a sudden, the Mets are in the postseason, so a Lonzo is not going to be available. So I don't think it's a matter of people wanting to go out and bolster their roster and do better. I just think it's the volume just isn't there. The product just isn't there because there's so many teams that are still involved at that trading deadline, especially in the nationally. Look at the nationally. There's only really three teams in the nationally. You can eliminate everybody else's when it is three, three and a half games to be in a post-season. So who's going to buy and who's going to sell? You're two games out of the wild card race and you're selling, man, your fan base is going to have a problem with you. I think it's great for the game. I think it's great for the parody of the game, but the inventory just isn't there how we've seen it past years. Brett Boone, always great, man. Thank you so much for your time. We'll talk soon. Thanks guys. Thank you. Awesome. That was Odyssey MLB Insider. Brett Boone Insider calls presented by Granger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Granger has the right product for you. Call click ranger dot com or just stop by coming up next. We had down on the farm and how much of an impact could Kobe Mayo and Jackson Hall, they have on this roster down the stretch, assuming they're not traded. We'll discuss next year on the fam. We all belong outside. We're drawn to nature, whether it's the recorded sounds of the ocean we doze off to or the succulents that adorn our homes. Nature makes all of our lives, well, better. 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Get your laugh on with me, Chris Jericho, and the talk is Jericho podcast. We've got Guns N' Roses, Hall of Famer, Duffer Kagan and his joke of the week every Friday, plus regular visits from the hilarious Brad Williams and special appearances by everyone from Gabrielle Fluffley Iglesias, Mark Marin, Dennis Miller, Cheech Marin, Kevin Neeland, if they're funny, they're on talk as Jericho. So listen to it, follow talk as Jericho now on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcast. Swinging a high fly ball by Mayo, the tides may have their fourth homework of the game already. It's into the bullpen and goal. Colby Mayo joins the party. He is homeward for a third consecutive day and the tides have hit four home runs and four innings this afternoon. On the first pitch in the third inning, Jackson Holiday sends one the opposite way and a ground rule double off the awarding track into the bullpen and in his first game back off the I.L. Holiday and with a long drive the opposite way. Some highlights from Jackson Holiday and Colby Mayo. We play these because Michael I spoke to the media on Saturday and he said out loud, he thinks both of these guys can have a big impact on this team down the stretch. So Jason, are you buying the boat Jackson Holiday and Colby Mayo could impact the big club down the stretch? I think they could. I the Jackson holiday of it all gives me a little pause. This young man hasn't played the field since June 12th and he was a work in progress at second base at the time. And he's only only played 38 games at second base this year. It's not like he's played 80, 90, 100 games there since when they sent him down. Again, I saw it with my own eyes the this what the third and fourth to last games he played in the field. I saw up in Scranton was not him was not impressed at second base. Didn't look natural lateral movement, backtracking his timing. It still didn't look he looked like somebody who was worked like thinking through it. It did not seem natural. It did not seem instinctual. Now the kid can obviously work counts and walk and get on base we're talking about somebody who you know gets on base over 40% of the time. So that would help because their own base percentage of among all major league second base is less than in the majors. I don't know about the power and the pop. Yes, he's got a 900 plus OPS and AAA, but ballparks or pitching's better ballparks are bigger up here. It's just you're traveling. It's just it's different. You don't have six game homestands all you know to bank on all the time. The caliber of pitching is much better. So I don't know from a pop standpoint, but like he's only stolen seven bases this year. Like this is a kid who's led off there all year. He's attempted to steal seven times. Now maybe they don't want him doing it because they're worried he's going to get hurt, but this team runs all over the place. So that gives me a little pause. The fact that he hasn't even D H four straight days since he had this original injury gives me a little calls that he's going to be you know, called up all of a sudden and impact a major league team. The fact that they only looked at him 10 times 10 major league games before they sent them down tells me that they think it was pretty significantly poor. And they talked about him needing to see more left handed pitching. He's got 87 played appearances against lefties this season at triple A 235 391 412 slash line. So it's a 803 OPS like it's eight, you know, it's it's not that big of a difference between lefties and righties, but we're still talking about 87 played appearances. Is that you know what I mean? Has that solved the their concerns? Has that really sureed things up? Well, my concern about it is he hadn't played second base and he ain't coming up here if he in this hypothetical rabbit hole to DH. No, he's not going to hit for enough power. No, I want him to DH. No, he's not a DH. Like, I don't know. You've seen him more than I have. I mean, he's also struck out 85 times in 74 games down there. Now again, he walks, he works counts. The guys who could throw 96 97 98 who come in on him and go up on him. That's elite velocity has been a problem for him to get even last year when he was dominating the miners to a better degree than now. Like that that's something that he's going to have to prove he could do. And he was clearly completely overwhelmed when he was here. I felt like he was starting to have make a turn for the better. I would have let it ride out more. They didn't. So I guess what I'm saying is that doesn't entirely pass my sniff test. And we're not going to know about Kobe Mayo fielding the ball at the Major League level until we see what I don't know. But I mean, his bats are different. His kids played 127 games at Triple A 286 387 561 948. Okay, it's a freak show 111 RBIs and 127 games at Triple A. Like we're talking about 70 extra base hits and 127 games at Triple A. He's been a Triple A for a calendar year. I mean, this year 301 381602 983 and 65 games at Norfolk. And they obviously have a deficiency if they don't have anybody from the right side of drives and runs unless it's a switch hitter batting from the right side. Right. Alston Hayes not producing runs Ramon not producing runs Mateo not producing runs. And if they were to trade, they were to trade Ryan Mount Castle, then you don't worry about the defense as much because he had first base. Yeah. But I think that needs to happen. And, and you know what? I think he's going to hit so well that you live with some of the growing pains at third base. The Jackson holiday of it all. The timing of this injury and now a week off, there's no minor league baseball this week. They're on hiatus just like Major Leaguers are. They don't come back to the weekend. You really tell me they're going to thrust him into a pennant race until or unless he's played at least when you want to think like a month more down there. 38 games at second base. So yeah, you would think so though though the interesting thing is if he were to be traded, he's going right to the major leagues wherever, whatever it was, a bad team that needs a shortstop. That's going to take the lumps now because they're not competing this year or probably next year anyway. Like, or at the very least, he's going to start playing shortstop for their triple A team for a little while and then bring them up here. But most likely, like I'm still very high on Jackson holiday. But to think he's, this team's pretty damn good. I think he's going to come up here at age 20 and what's been a staccato, you know, it's been a weird year for him. Everybody thought he's going to make the major league team. He didn't. He's down there for a minute. He's up here for a minute and a half. He's down there again. He's struggling in the field. He even goes through his first real triple A slump. He starts to come out of it. He gets shut down. And now the GM's talking about him being one of the missing links in the second half. The only way that happens, I don't buy it. And I'm, I want to tell you, I'm going down a big hypothetical rabbit hole here. But the only way he's up here is if Ryan Mountcastle gets traded because that puts Jordan Westbrook at third base and Kobe Mayo at first. And that's to me, like there's this hypothetical rabbit hole where Mayo stays, holiday stays and Mountcastle goes and you, you bet Jackson holiday ninth and blame and second base and think he can, he's going to work, work through it. And the rest of this lineup with Mayo at first base and Westbrook at third base is going to be able to handle things until he figures it out batting ninth and playing second base. That, that, that to me is the only way he's helping this team up here. Yeah. And I mean, with him from the left side, like even, is he going to displace Jorge Mateo as much as Jorge slowed down. Yeah. Jorge still has flashed some power and Jorge in the field as a whole different deal. Like, could Jackson holiday help them having a second half on base percentage from their second baseman? That's above 254. It's two, they're on base. It's second base is 254. Yeah. But they already, they're tenth and slugging percentage at second base. They're, they're sixth and home runs in the majors, 20th and RBIs from second base. Like, he's good. Like you said, he's going to be batting ninth. Mm hmm. Is he really going to be I'm altering the span of their run construction. I mean, I'd roll with it and he better be running more if he's playing up here, like a bat and I be running all the time. Yes. This kid should be still 3540 bases. Yes. You bat him ninth. You play him at second base. And now this is again, a huge hypothetical rabbit hole, but that's the only way he's here. Like because otherwise Westbrook's at second base because Mayo's coming. Yeah. I have a lot of questions about the whole Jackson holiday. And I wonder how significant the injury really is. Yeah. I wonder if this was just a great way to get him out of the off the infield dirt at a time when all these scouts are going to be kicked in overdrive, picking people apart before the deadline. And again, the idea that I would lump him in with Kobe Mayo, given the fact that kid hasn't even played a game in the field in over a month. You think he's talking to other teams? I think he's sending signals. Yes. I think he's talking this kid up because he wants it to be once it to sound like it's the hardest thing in the world for me to have to get rid of him. But I don't know, man. I I don't know. I wish I wish he took the second base in a way that I thought he would, but but he has it inside access here on a Thursday coming up next. We switch to the Ravens and the Ravens hit the practice field on Sunday. That is the start of training camp. With that in mind, as we hit training camp, six pack time, six biggest Ravens strengths right now, we'll give you ours next year on the fan training camp begins on Sunday for the Baltimore Ravens. Their first practices are coming up on Sunday. Most of the guys are probably already in the building as they get ready for this whole thing to start with that in mind. Six pack time are six pack of the Ravens biggest strengths as training camp begins and Ben, let's get started. Six. I have Justin Tucker. Hey, like he's not what he used to be, but he's still a Hall of Fame kicker. And he's still one of the top kickers in football. And they still not as not to the same extent as maybe a couple of years ago, but they still in regular season games play the game slightly different because they know they have that guy on his side. I put that at six. I got to tell you, I struggled with individual. I did not put many individuals on my list. I ended up kind of looking at it a little bit more holistically. I did too. Because I kind of like, there's for a team that this much is expected of. I feel like there's a lot of unknowns. My six was resources. And by resources, I mean, upgrades to the facility, upgrades to the creature conference for players, upgrades to the support staff. Basically, Bishadi and those guys looking at all those F's on D's on their LPA report card a few years ago and making some important changes to how these guys are strength trained, weight trained, right, the changes they've made to the when they practice how they practice. I feel like it's made a difference. And there's still plenty of teams that don't really care about that stuff that aren't trying to find ways to improve on the margins. So I put those resources and upgrades at six. A five for me is leadership culture. The sort of legacy of that being a locker room that can handle its business. Now, they've lost guys like Kaleis Campbell in recent years. Like, I'm not going to tell you that it's at an all time high. But when you've got to Mark Andrews on one side of the ball, when you've got a Rowquan Smith on the other side of the ball, there's a lot of guys who understand what it takes to sort of rain their teammates in when they need to be rained in to basically handle their business. And again, that's not true across the league. There's a lot of places with a lot of shenanigans. So I think their leadership and culture are major reasons why they can have success this year. We're along the same lines, but I put like in leadership is concerned. I got John Harbaugh at five. Like he's been their head coach since 2008. I think he's still one of the top head coaches and all the football. And we, you know, we live in this culture now. Everybody wants their coach fired. You're in the same thing's going to Pittsburgh. But if John Harbaugh was let go, he'd have a if he wanted another job, he'd have a new job pretty quickly. I think there's something to be said for keeping things. And remember, when Billy left, but shot, he said out loud. He wanted a similar thing like they have in Pittsburgh. He didn't want to be hiring a new head coach every few years. And John Harbaugh, except for the blip in 2018. And he went to he went to Lamar and it saved his job. And now that this thing, I say there's something to be said for consistency. I'm higher on on this than you are, but I got Derek Henry at four. And I think he's going to make a huge impact. And I thought you made a good pointer. You and Jeff together, just having him in that backfield, I think it's going to do wonders for the passing game, just the threat of Derek Henry. And I still think they're going to be able, I don't know what your two is going to bring. But I think they're going to, they're going to suck the juice all out of this orange. I think they're going to get a big year out of Derek Henry this year. I have that at four. Four, I've got blue chip defensive players. Like I wanted to go like roster overall, but I, I still have questions. I don't think there's deep as they were last year. I have, I have serious reservations about offensive line and pass rush, but they've got a spine. When you've got Kyle Hamilton, when you've got Justin Matabique, you've got Roquan Smith, that's a pretty damn good starting point. And the blue chip players on defense, for me, remain one of the reasons why you should be bullish about them. About in between right now, I like Justin, Justin, the Justin Tucker points good because I feel like because he's not as great as he once was, people take it for advantage. And at the same time, we watched teams around the league lose games on kickers all the time regularly and filter them through. Whether you're getting Tucker's best or even where he's at now, it's still very, very professional from your kicker. We were talking about the Raven six, biggest strengths entering training camp and Ben, let's continue. Three for me is health. There's a lot of teams in the league that are dealing with major injuries right now. 49ers got a linebacker get hurt in a Super Bowl. Don't know when he's coming back, right? We've talked a lot about the Browns and their quarterback situation. We've talked about Joe Burrow coming back from a significant injury and sounding like a guy who might be contemplating his football mortality in ways that we never thought he would in year four. These guys got what they got, whatever this Marlin thing is. Am I missing anything? No, I mean, a jobo got hurt slightly. I mean, that I mean, he's never done anything anyway. So like, but that happened so early that he should be fine. Like there are a lot of teams. This guy's on pup. This guy's on pup. We don't know when he's coming back. It's, it's Keaton Mitchell and Marlin Humphrey. That's a pretty clean bill of health kicking off camp in three days. You, you had part of this as your four. My three is their spinal defense. Matabique, Roquan Smith, Kyle Hamilton, you've got three all pros right there. You, you, you can't discount that their spinal defense is exceptional. Two is their tight ends. Like we're expecting it. And even Jeff's Rebecca referred to this when we were talking about this earlier, like Isaiah likely took a step last year and he didn't have the opportunity to do that with the healthy Mark Andrews. We came back as a decoy in the playoff game. Like Mark Andrews, healthy Isaiah, likely healthy. This should be a thing in 2024. It should be. It hasn't been to this point. It didn't make the cut for me. Two for me is their organizational hierarchy. Like the, I don't agree with a lot of stuff the GM does, but like you've got, and, and the owner has botched plenty of things. But ultimately they, they, they're, they're a winning franchise way more often than not. You still have a football savant and Aussie Newsome hanging around the draft, hanging around free agency. You've got an owner who has one. You've got a head coach who's among the most distinguished and accomplished in the NFL. They've got a lot of adults. They've got a lot of guys who've had success and they have continuity. Yeah, they've lost coordinators and that stuff. It's going to happen, but their overall organizational hierarchy, I think, is one of their greatest strengths. You got a quarterback in this league. You got to fight and chance. If you've got one of the five or six best quarterbacks in this league, you got to fight and chance every single year, not just to get in the dance, but to do damage in it. We all want to see Lamar have Lamar games plural in the same playoff run. But he is their biggest strength in getting back there. Yeah, we're simpatico Lamar Demetrius Jackson has won two MVPs. He has accomplished everything he can accomplish in the regular season. He's led them to a one seed twice. Their Ravens never were a one seed before. All he's got left is we got to see it in the postseason. Got to happen in January. He's the top five quarterback. He's won. That's a big W for the ginger gorilla. Thanks, Sharky. I was in between on a lot of them and most of the points that you guys made together were big. But I decided with Ken slightly with the tight ends at the end because I think that's massive this year. But the quarterback one is one I wanted to touch on just because the city, I understand he's getting paid a lot of money and I understand whatever they want to complain about. But they don't understand what it would be like if we had Drew Locke and Gino Smith battling it out to see who's going to be starting week one. They take that for granted. And if they want to go somewhere else like they did for all that time, it doesn't make sense. You're hung up on the money. He's already a bargain. Yeah. He's already been jumped by guys who aren't as good. And there's one in Dallas and one in Miami. At least one of them is probably going to jump in two. Yeah, maybe both. And Jordan loves going to love probably just like Jordan loved me. He's really good. But like that's the billionaire ain't sweating that night about what he's paying the quarterback. The quarterback's more than worth it. Got to get it done that postseason coming up next. We're going to hit the hot corner and we got some polls to pay off. We're looking at and of course is it imperative to win the alleys and reset our conversation from yesterday should the Orioles consider trading Jackson holiday for Tarek scuba. That's next here on the fan. As we await the for the season to restart tomorrow, that's in Texas, bottom or baseball tonight will be tomorrow myself and Ryan Ripken as we'll take you till seven. The world game doesn't start till eight. Alas, as we get restarted, trade deadline is now 12 days away, Jason. And we've been talking a lot about potential trades. And one of the ones that that has garnered the most conversation is potentially making a blockbuster trade to get Tarek scuba and including Jackson holiday and said trade. Well, you're not getting Tarek scuba unless, you know, Mayo, Jackson holiday, a Bassiah is involved in the trade. And I actually think Kobe Mayo, they've had a lot of like special Torkelson was allegedly supposed to going to be a third baseman. Yeah, then that was never going to happen. And he moved to first base. And now he's back in triple A and he might just be a DH and he's not hitting there right now. He's not doing great there. They thought Colke Keith would be their solution to third base. He can't field the ball enough. He's starting to really hit for them now at second base. Like they drafted Jay Sheung as a second baseman. I don't even know that he's going to stay at second base. He might be a first baseman. So the defensive issues with Kobe Mayo, like, I don't know, or potential defensive issues. I don't know that he would appeal to them as much. I think Jackson holiday absolutely appeals to them. They just gave hobby by as $150 million. He can't play. And he's got 75 still left on that thing or 125 75 still left on it. Like they need a shortstop badly. They do have a kid in high a high school kid they took last year who looks like he's going to be the real deal, but he's years away. And he could always move to second base or the outfield or whatever. Look, they also need a center fielder. There's plenty of people who think Jackson holiday could play center field. Like I they need help up the middle. They need spine. And I think Jackson holiday would have to be in the Terrik scuba trade. You and I are way open to it. Yes. Beltway Ben is way open to it. And we talked about a lot on yesterday's show. And as of right now, our poll at IA 105 seven the fan, the Orioles have reportedly sniffing around on Terrik scuba as they should be yada, yada, yada, Jackson holiday's blocked at shortstop here. Would you be willing to deal Jackson as part of a package for Terrik scuba and bullpen upgrades? We're 2200 votes into this thing. 49% got to do it. 51% can't do it. Maybe our biggest baseball poll that we've done. And it's basically split down the middle. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's close. There's a little less than two hours left on that thing. So we'll see. We also had a poll up earlier this week about adding some pop offensively. If you thought that was necessary, should they go big for a Lewis Robert or a jazz chism, 24% go medium. My guy Ian Hap 26% go small and just rent Tommy fam 16% 33% said we don't need a bat at all. And then we had another starting pitching poll about what should allow us to add a righty and a lefty 23% add scuba or crochet 66% just add a number four, number five starter, one starter, 11%. That's a pretty sizable margin for a three option poll 66% add scuba or crochet. Yeah. The crochet and hey, if I woke up tomorrow and they traded for crochet, I'm giving them credit for taking a big swing. He's got some concerns though, because of the inning situation. But I would be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they will construct a overarching plan for each start for the final two plus months of the regular season for the off season. And then how to relaunch him next year, which would be an even bigger step coming back from his first year as a starter, having pitched all those additional innings, and then still trying to get him through all of next year as well. You do have the fallback plan of if you need to back off, he's perfectly comfortable pitching the ninth inning and looking pretty filthy there. Yes, absolutely. And he currently leads, I think baseball and strikeouts, at least the American League and strikeouts. So kids having a hell of a year. We also have one more poll, which is going to lead into our next segment. And and that's about how important it is to wit to win the division Orioles won the division last year. Of course, we saw all three teams in baseball that 100 plus games did not get out of their their first round. Yes. Is it still the primary objective is winning the ALEs to securing the top seed, a top priority? Is it a big deal 53% say yes, is it a little deal 41% no deal 6% we both voted little deal? Yes. I was a little surprised by Brett Boone's response to this when I asked him because he's you know, old school is that's been in the game forever. His brother's been a manager. He's been involved in the hierarchy of baseball teams. Again, they've got a dad and a grandfather. Yeah, like they're pretty tried and true and division went into division was always near number one thing you checked off in spring training. And even he was like, I don't think it matters much. Yeah, he said, I'm not going to say it's irrelevant. But it's certainly not the end all and be all and it's it's there's a case to be made that this Orioles team still being pretty young. Maybe they relax a little more on the road like I and they're very accustomed to winning on the road. They want to the better road teams in the league the last couple of years. And if they don't have a scuba or a crochet, it's a pretty good chance that the other teams got a better left handed starter than you do, which will work against you potentially since you have Baltimore and they don't. And that's what we're going to get into next Jim McCarthy from the athletics going to join us in 415. But coming up next, how important is it to win the ALEs? How important is winning a division in the new baseball playoff system will discuss next here on the fan trying to figure out what to eat for dinner yet again with north sides and bullion as you're not so secret ingredient, you can skip the drive through and do dinner at home. Nor taste combos provide a menu of delicious, affordable and well balanced meals that you can prepare in 30 minutes or less. Visit nor.com to get quick and easy recipe ideas for your home cooked weeknight dinners. It's not fast food, but it's so good. Get your laugh on with me, Chris Jericho at the Talk is Jericho podcast. 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