I just feel like we are surrounded in this world by bullshit. So how can you know what's real and what's not? Science bestes. That's how. We answer questions like, does anti-aging skincare actually work? And what is your true personality type? And to answer these questions, we don't use opinions. We dive into the scientific studies, talk to the experts, and put it in a podcast that I know you are going to love. Listen to science bestes on Spotify. I'll see you there. Hello folks. Welcome to Cudlow. I'm Larry Cudlow. President Trump and Elon Musk took the internet by storm last night. We're going to break it down and talk it up with Vivek Ramaswami in just a moment. But first up, breaking news. We're going to go to Fox News Peter Ducey, who caught up with President Biden earlier today. Peter, this is a remarkable achievement. Well, thank you, Larry. We did have a chance to chat with President Biden on his way down to a cancer moonshot event in Louisiana. And he has assured us that Vice President Harris is not as far to the left as her record in 2019 and 2020 would suggest. How much more progressive is Vice President Harris than you as a candidate in the general? The issues we've worked on together make great progress economically. No one calls what we did on infrastructure suggestion. It's a good policy. The former Biden for president campaign now here is for president campaign. Tells us that if she is elected president, she will not push for Medicare for all or single payer health insurance. That is a reversal from where she was at the beginning of her campaign in 2019. And as for hearing about this from Harris herself, it doesn't sound like she thinks she needs to explain herself anytime soon, which means that a lot of the tape about her talking about big hot button issues is going to be a couple years old. Just because she doesn't have anything in interview schedule and our public schedule doesn't mean that she's not taking her message directly to voters. Connellahairs.com, the campaign website, has a lot of places that you can click to donate to the Harris walls ticket. But it doesn't have anywhere at the moment that you can click to find out where the two of them stand on the big issues of the day. We've been told to expect a more formal platform by the end of this week, Larry. All right, Peter Ducey. Thanks ever so much. Now Donald Trump is on message with Elon Musk last night. And that's the subject of the riff. So the live Elon Musk interview on X with former president Donald Trump was one massive humongous huge event. Now, there are a lot of numbers being thrown around. According to Fox News report, at its peak, about 1.3 million people were listening live. The Trump team has numbers slightly bigger. And when they add in impressions, views, and posts related to the interview, what you have is a really big gigantic media event live and unscripted. Now, I know it's an important event because the liberal media is howling against it today. That's a surefire measuring tool of its success. And there's plenty of substance to that interview. For example, talking about the economy, Mr. Trump mentioned several times how voters want to hear about the economy because they cannot afford groceries. He said he cut taxes not only for businesses, but for the middle class. And he would further deregulate the economy. He said he intends to get rid of the criminals that have been given to us by other countries and explain that he will get tough on trade using the principle of reciprocity. He intends to close up the Department of Education, move it out to the states. He emphasized how in his first term, he achieved record unemployment for minorities. He repeated over and over how Biden-Harris energy policies have caused inflation. He also advocated for nuclear power. Mr. Trump vowed to drill, baby drill. Elon Musk said at one point, "I think we need a government efficiency commission to say, hey, where are we spending all this money?" Elon offered to serve on it. And Mr. Trump immediately said he loved that and called Elon the greatest cutter. And Mr. Trump also said that we need more energy in order to power AI. I'm foreign policy. Trump talked about how he left Iran broke, had Putin scared, also how he dealt with North Korea successfully, while Biden has allowed a Russia-China alliance that is dangerous to the world. Before the interview, Mr. Trump returned to the ex-site, of course, formally Twitter. And he said, "Are you better off now than you were when I was president?" Good question. He said this to his 89.2 million followers. This is on top of the interview with Mr. Musk. In other words, one way or another, millions upon millions of people heard Donald Trump's message in just the last 24 hours. And the good news is Mr. Trump was on message reminding people of his substantive, successful policies. In other words, full of insights, not insults. Good day's work, wouldn't you say, folks? And that's the riff. All right, with great pleasure joining us now with Blake Rameswamy, businessman and author of Truths, the future of America First. Vivek, as always welcome back. This one gets your take on this big media event with Elon Musk. And also Trump's return to ex, which some people have been advocating. All right, he's on. He's got 89 million some odd followers. A whole lot of people listened to the interview last night. I know that we're technical issues, but they seem to have gotten strained out. But they get all this internet, social media, substantive stuff is right up your alley. What do you think about it? I think it's great. I think it's a great chance for Americans to see Donald Trump in long form. That's what we should want of our presidential candidates. And Larry, I think it is pathetic. The Kamala Harris has not sat down for one serious interview, long form or short form with the media of any kind. I think it was smart of Elon and he was correct in extending that same invitation to Kamala Harris. I doubt she'll take him up on it. But if she does, I'll give her credit for that too, because that makes the country stronger. One of the things that was most remarkable to me about it, Larry, though, was how threatened certain people were by the existence of that interview. Kamala Harris's team was criticizing things Donald Trump said, even as she refused to sit for those same interviews. And then look at the EU's censorship demands ahead of that interview to Elon Musk. That is, I think, arresting. When you think about the United States of America having foreign countries worried about an open conversation with the US president in the United States of America, that should be sending alarm bells. And I think that dimension was not discussed enough, if you ask me. Actually, we'll put it into the riff. It's a great point. We'll put it into the riff of the EU, which has some nerve. Was there hacking at the beginning of this thing? I don't know what the story was. And even if I knew, I probably wouldn't understand it today. What do you think? Look, hacking or some type of attack or cyber attack that stopped people from joining us when Elon signaled via his tweet, I don't think the technical details matter for what happened at the start of that. That would be like the equivalent of, if our interview glitched and we spent 10 minutes talking about it, it's a boring subject. What I care much more about is the content of what was discussed. And if we focus this election on sealing the border, growing the economy, staying out of World War III, and reviving national pride, that's what I heard in that conversation yesterday. I think we win this thing handily. The more we focus on policy and our vision for the future, the more successful we're going to be, the less we focus on that, the less successful we're going to be. That's the bottom line on this election. And just on that point about even foreign interference, when I think about this yesterday, Larry, that's that chills down my spine ahead of this interview or this discussion that Elon Musk had with Donald Trump. If that was Russia, telling a mainstream media news outlet that ahead of them talking to Kamala Harris, they had to abide by the EU's perspectives on that discussion. Imagine what the reaction in this country would be. You know what, our reaction shouldn't be any different when the same shoe fits the other foot. And so I do think that was one of the more alarming things that happened yesterday that escaped notice. I roughed out some of the topics. You know, it's a very long interview. I think it was over an hour and so forth. I actually might have been closer to two hours. But from, you know, from your own, I don't know what you heard of it from the riff tonight. Does it sound like Mr. Trump is now moved back on message? That's the key. You know, I had Kellyanne Conway on the show last night. We were going back and forth. We have very dear friends. She and I and we both agreed, you know, let's have insights, not insults. And it just seems like the speech in Montana by Mr. Trump over the weekend and this interview with Mr. Elon Musk sounds like he's really kind of back on important messaging. Do you think that's correct? Well, look, I talked to President Trump pretty frequently. And one of the things I love about him is he is always himself. He's authentic. Voters are hungry for that. They don't want a candidate who is managed by the advisor class around them. That's what you get with Joe Biden. That's what you get with Kamala Harris. They're really just puppets for a system that sits underneath them. Donald Trump is different in that way. And I think that the best Donald Trump is the true Donald Trump, somebody who's actually showing voters who he is. At the same time, I do think he believes that a focus on policy is the way to win this election, because Kamala Harris has served up a policy record. It's really, frankly, so easy to go after. You don't need to go after personally, because the stronger insults are actually the insults of her policy record. You think about somebody, despite what she says now, has favored a single-payer health care system, nationalization of U.S. health care. Something the GOP has not talked about, enough, Larry. You want to talk about somebody who favors the Green New Deal so much so that she co-sponsored the legislation and said that she would end the filibuster to ram it through. Somebody who actually favors a tax on unrealized capital gains. That means many small business owners across this country will literally have to owe taxes that they don't have the cash to pay. That's a formula for market crash and a second grade depression. She leaves a lot for the picking to say that if that's what you want, go with Kamala Harris, if not, come our way and vote for Donald Trump. And then that's what's going to win us this election. You know, let's go back for a second, the wealth tax on unrealized capital gains, which is so crazy. And, you know, it would kill, retirees would get killed, farmers would get killed, ranchers would get killed. As you said, small business people would get killed. I think that one probably deserves a special place in hell. I mean, I think it deserves more discussion just how bad that would be. That's a look, only markets, you know this, an asset is worth only what somebody's going to pay for it. And you're going to set up some IRS bureaucracy that's going to make valuations on sales that were never even completed. You're literally taking money out of people's hands and out of their wallets, literally pulling it out one by one. That's crazy. I mean, it's totally un-American. It would also trigger a stock market crash because you have a lot of Americans sitting on long term, sometimes in decades long capital gains, that they would then have to sell which creates a technical effect. That's a formula for a stock market crash that hurts everyday Americans retirees in their 401k accounts. Then you think about landowners and farmers, they're illiquid, they don't have the cash to pay what the government says their land or their business is worth. So this is one of the issues. I think there's two things Larry that Republicans need to focus on that we haven't yet. It is Kamal Harris's support for nationalizing the U.S. health care system which would decimate all health care innovation in this country and her focus on an unrealized capital gains tax. That is a formula for economic calamity. If you want that, you got your candidate. Kamal Harris is sitting right there for you. But if you want to go the direction of economic growth and prosperity and lifting up all Americans, the choice could not be clearer. Donald Trump's the way to go. You know, one more related to the nationalizing of health care and so forth. Ending private insurance, which she has said several times, you know, there's, last I look, 150, 160 million, maybe more. Most Americans get their health care from their employers, okay, or they have a kind of co-payment employer employee as they do with the stock market. But that's private insurance. That would all be about 150 million. I don't know, maybe more, maybe closer to 200 million people would lose their health insurance if you abolish private insurance. She's for that. I haven't heard her change her mind. And anyway, if she flipped flops, nobody's going to believe it. Yeah, look, she was on a democratic debate stage where they asked a flat-out question. This was not some sort of wishy-washy extrapolation. They said, raise your hand if you would abolish private health insurance. She raised her hand. She has been crystal clear on this issue. She was the co-sponsor. She didn't just support nationalizing U.S. health care. She was the co-sponsor of the bill with Bernie Sanders to actually do it. She even said that in certain cases for the Green New Deal, which also included one-time national health care, she said she would end the Senate filibuster to pass it through. So whatever she says in the next three months doesn't matter because her actions speak louder than her words. And I do think you have a real choice here for what direction the future of the country is going to take. Single-payer health care reduces health choice for all Americans, requires a massive bureaucracy to administer. And if you like your private health insurance plan right now, anybody's watching this. If you like your private health insurance plan, you better believe and bet that that is gone if Kamala Harris gets her way. Now, maybe some people want that gone. That's great. Vote for her. If not, you have a different candidate. And I think that that choice on policy is about as stark as we've had probably in the 21st century between two candidates of very different visions. That's up to the voters to decide which one they want. You know, this came up when the original Obamacare came in, the idea of abolishing private insurance, which is again, most people get their health care insurance from their business. And it was vastly, vastly unpopular, vastly unpopular. Anyway, last one, because a lot of people don't understand that Trump does want to limit government and cut back unnecessary and inefficient spending. We have some tape on what Mr. Musk and Mr. Trump talked about with respect to government efficiency commission. Take a listen, please. I think it'd be great to just have a government efficiency commission that takes a look at these things and just ensures that the taxpayer money, the taxpayers are a hard earned money, is spent in a good way. And I'd be happy to help out on such a commission. I'd love it if it were for them. Well, you're the greatest cutter. There you go. You're the greatest cutter. This, when I was a young pup working for Reagan, that Peter Grace, the famous businessman, headed up to Grace Commission, and he did a fabulous job. I mean, he could have saved a couple trillion dollars if there had been any follow through from Congress. But this is important, right? Put a lot on some government spending commission, some government efficiency commission. That's the first we've heard of Mr. Trump talk about that. I think that's progress that they give you the last word. Yeah, look, Elon is a brilliant guy. He and I have talked about this very idea as well. The reality is we don't need four million federal bureaucrats in Washington, D.C. That's the second mass deportation we don't talk about. Mass deport those federal bureaucrats out of D.C. to the rest of the countries that they can get real jobs in the private sector. And I think, Larry, this is a moment for clarity for Republicans. We do not want and we should not want to replace the left-wing nanny state with some right-wing nanny state. We want to dismantle the nanny state. We don't want to replace the left-wing regulatory state with the right-wing regulatory state. We should want to dismantle the regulatory state. And I am glad that's what draining the swamp actually means. If we're being honest, there has been some debate around this. And even in conservative or Republican circles, I come down on one side of that question, shut it down. And if we take that approach, both to government inefficiency and the bureaucracy, we're going to save our country. I have a vague thank you for your wisdom. Count me and sign me up all for it. We appreciate it very, very much, and vague about astronomy. Thanks so much. All right, folks. Coming up here on Cutload President Trump needs to stay laser focused on the issues. Looks like he's making pretty good progress. We're going to talk some more about this with D Forbes right here on set. And remember, you can catch Cutload Monday through Friday at 4 p.m. right here on fabulous Fox Business. And then for some reason, you can't catch us at 4 p.m. Please text your favorite 9-year-old and she will show you how to DVR the show. And you will never miss a government efficiency commission. How about that one? I'm Cutload. 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In the 1988 convention, because Michael Dukakis tried to change all of his liberal left positions as governor of Massachusetts. He tried to pawn himself off as some kind of manager. And you're in the crowd, in the convention hall, the Republican convention, they all go flip, flop, flip, flop, and they'd show beach slippers and they'd have signs, flip, flop. I just thought, you guys, you and I, the only people old enough to remember that. Maybe you you later in the show, but flip, flop, flip, flop. Anyway, what must, and by the way, at the convention, they also at the Democratic convention had all these flags trying to show their patriotic, Reagan made reference to it and said, and they call me an actor. That's one. I don't remember that, but that's terrific. All right, what must, what must Trump do? Stick the message as you've been hammering home. Very, very basic issues. Don't go try to be humorous about moving to Venezuela and all that kind of stuff. Stick to taxes, the economy, inflation, the border and national security. Hammer those and then end up with a question we keep asking. Are you better off today than you were four years ago? You have your answer and don't get sidetracked on her. What she does or doesn't do, just focus on those issues. That's what people want to know. How do we move ahead? And then we can turn this around. Just as three weeks, we've seen a big flip flop. Who could have thought that she would be the new queen or whatever, whatever, second coming? Well, three, four weeks, five weeks can flip again. The other thing to watch out for, and I hope they're preparing for it, as a contingency, what if Biden resigns after the convention? Really? What if he resigns and she orders an air strike against Iran? Oh my gosh. Wow. I hadn't thought of any of that. So they have to be prepared and go on offense and say Iran would not have needed to be attacked as I had them, as he said last night, on their knees when I was president. So be prepared so he can hit, maybe in advance that don't be fooled. You are one of the few and you stuck to it. You were there early, looked good, then you look good. But you always said Biden would not run and you were correct about that. So you're saying, possibly, she, he would just step away. She becomes the president. Well, you do it through the 25th amendment. No, you just say, he just resigned. Just just resigned by the president. It's time to pass the torch. And then she bombs you ran. She wouldn't have the, you know, what's to do that? Would she? I don't know. Well, to win an election, progressives are ready to have her do anything because they know she's ultimately on their side. And you know, it's going to happen to defense spending, which has already been under pressure if she gets in with that crew. So the assets are already there in the Middle East. Doesn't have to be much. Just say, Oh, yeah, I'm commander in chief and by golly, I'm willing to defend America. And so I'm not sure it'll happen. I wouldn't bet my 401k on it. But that's the kind of thing they have to scenario out in advance, the Trump people, and go on offense and say, look what's happened in national defense. Why do we have to send those assets to the Middle East? Why do we still have American hostages because of what they did to defense? And they're going to try to cover it up with some something like that. But be kind of fake bravado, fake, fake bravado. So people are prepared and not to call off guard. You know, on that very point, we had some numbers. Defense spending as a share of GDP, Trump's last budget, he had 3.7% way too low, but a big pickup from where inherited from Obama. Yes, Biden, by the end of Biden's 10 year budget window 2034, 2.4% of GDP. So from 3.7 to 2.4, that's probably 35% some 40% reduction in defense spending in a very dangerous world, which Biden, Harris have made even more dangerous. We're not equipped for that right now. That's what Trump has to emphasize. We don't have the infrastructure in to build the weaponry that we need. And he should make the point. This is the most dangerous period in international affairs since the 1930s. And we know that led because of catastrophic mistakes by people who believed in appeasement. These people believe in appeasement, even though they'll try to cover it up for election day. And we got to turn that around because this is America's safety at stake. It's the free world at stake. That's the big issue. These people brought us to that position. So to Barack Obama, now we got to reverse it before it's too late. I'd like to see Mr. Trump actually talk some more about building up defense. He mentions it. And I believe he mentioned it in the Elon Musk interview. No, I'm not sure. But I know he, I know he believes it. And it can't hit, hit, hit, hit, hit. You know, the first time in 100 years, the United States does not have the biggest Navy in the world in terms of warships. How did that allow to happen when China's getting more aggressive? Throw it back at him. We couldn't fight two wars anymore. That's what many defense experts are saying. We used to think about having a two war army. We don't have a two war army. People are saying we need actually three small war army and sort of the Vietnam type moves you've got. But this is where, you know, we could put on the table. Maybe we work with South Korea to build ships. Maybe work with Japan to use their shipyards. Use the allies, the resources of the free world to confront this threat to the free world. Show these thinking ahead about what we do to save the free world. Trump made progress, you think, with this Elon Musk business last night. And also he went back on X Twitter and he's got almost 100 million followers. He make any progress on the messaging. I think he's moving there, but he's now got to just tell himself. This is it. Only 80, 85 days left. I just have to focus on this like those runners at the Olympics. They don't think about anything else. They don't worry about anything. There's focus getting close to that finish line. Fabulous. Steve Forbes, you're so terrific, just terrific stuff. Thank you. Keep up the good fight. I hope, go ahead. Biden steps down. She steps in and then bombs are ran. I got process that. That is really something. But you have a lot of foresight on these matters. So thank you for your wisdom. Anyway, folks, coming up, Kamala Harris cannot flip flop her way out of her failed border record and other things. I want to pursue Steve Forbes's concerns about defense and what we can and cannot do and what might or might not happen. Anyway, we've got Hugh Hewitt coming up. We've got Byron. 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Got a few things right and they had the Dukakis flip flops. Remember Dukakis rode around in a tank and he had a helmet on and had proud to be ruined him. And everyone in the crowd in the convention all go flip flop, flip flop, speaker after speaker after speaker. Maybe we can reenact that you or maybe that's what this so Kamala Harris things all about. I was listening Larry and I do remember the campaign very well. I was in the Reagan administration, watched it from what would have a hatch act restricted position, but I watched it nevertheless very closely. George H. W. Bush was down 17 points in July of 1980, one by eight points, 25 points swing in months. However, the Republicans went second year. So they could do what that did. In other words, underscore all the flip flopping and the Republicans are not going to have that opportunity this time. I think the vice president has a pretty easy two week stretch ahead of her. And after that, the going's going to get very tough very quickly. Well, Byron, won't she be held to some account for all these flip flops? It's not just a border, it's a flip flop on healthcare. It's a flip flop on fracking. You've been writing about this. I know her polls look better, although Rasmussen, by the way, doesn't think so. His daily polling still shows that Trump is ahead, but putting all the polling aside for a minute. Will she not be held account for all these flip flops? You know, I have to tell you, I don't actually know right now. So far, she hasn't been. She said a few weeks now of absolutely celebratory press and no pressure at all to talk to journalists or anybody else. She she's gotten this glowing press without saying anything to anybody. As a matter of fact, her incentive is to keep not saying anything to anybody. So I really don't see her being pressed on this anytime soon. Perhaps if she submitted herself to a press conference situation where there were multiple journalists, but she could as far as one on one interview, she could pick a very friendly interview and never have to deal with this at all. I thought for sure you were going to say submit herself to a lie detector test. No talking about a big press conference joke joke joke. You know, I would never insist on such a thing. I don't know. Maybe I would. Hugh Hewlett, you wrote a tough column saying she's basically not qualified to be president. And I don't know if you heard what Steve Forbes said. Steve Forbes just raised the threat that after the DNC convention, Mr. Biden would step down. She would assume the presidency and then to show how tough she is, she would bomb Iran. He didn't forecast that he just said that's a possibility. You're saying she's not qualified to do anything above? No, she's not. I think right now, in fact, I heard Steve Forbes say that and I said, OK, I haven't considered that possibility. Everyone should game out everything. But the fact of the matter is she's been in public life for 20 plus years. She has never achieved anything. Her one job with the Biden administration, tasked her in March of 2021, was to control the border flow and to fix the problem in Central America. Of course, that did not happen. And I believe this issue is the great white whale of the election. It's beneath the surface at this point, but it matters very much in Pennsylvania, very much in Michigan, very much in Wisconsin. The three states that will decide this fairly early on election night. There are lots of costs associated with 10 million people coming in uninvited to the United States costs that are present and covered almost 24/7 on some networks. And I believe very much not quite as present in top of mine is what you're paying for for your groceries. But inflation, immigration, and Israel are the three big eyes. And I hope the former president sticks on those three things like flies on fly paper. Barry New York, I thought Trump made a very good showing on all three of the issues that he just mentioned in his interview with Elon Musk, which I know that liberal media is hating and yelling and grossing. But the fact is, it hit a lot of people. And then he's gone back on Twitter X, which is hitting another 100 million. I mean, he just, I've got to notice how many hundreds of millions of people he's been in contact with one way or another in the last 24, 48 hours. It sounds like he's back on message to me. Well, it's been completely trashed, as you suggest, in many media outlets. Most of them dealing with whatever technical glitches happened at the start. So it started at 8 45 p.m. Eastern time instead of eight o'clock Eastern time. That's the big deal apparently. My feeling was it was a real net plus for him because Americans got to hear Trump in a little bit of a different way. It wasn't entirely the way Trump speaks in conversation, but it was a lot closer than listening to him in a speech or something like that. So it was actually, and he got to make all of his points on all of his issues. It wasn't like a discipline bullet points or a talk because it was a conversation. But I think overall, it was a real net positive and it's the kind of thing. It's not like one live TV event in the way back time where people could only watch it at one time. They'll be listening to snippets of this for quite a while now. No, it's hot stuff in here that I played so much of that interview on my radio show this morning because so many parts of it were provocative and piercing, especially on Musk talking about how America faces an existential threat from being 4% of the world's population and 10% of the world wanted to move here. And Donald Trump in conversation, not hospital in conversation. I just played it again and again and again. It was a fabulous evening for the former president. Well, that's important because if you hear it, you have a bigger following than Elon Musk. I mean, you know, everybody listen to your radio show and they have for a good many years. Thank you for coming on our TV show. Thank you. Byron York, as always. Thank you very much. All right, folks. Coming to another story or back around on another story, this defense spending issue joining us now. Texas Congressman Wesley Hunt, who was an army combat vet deployed to Iraq among other places. Wesley Hunt, thank you for coming on. You know, we were talking about this specular defense preparedness, which seems like it's at low point right now. Steve Forbes and I were talking about it earlier in the show. And I'll just, I'll start you out on this. Mr. Trump's last budget in 2020, defense as a share of GDP 3.7%. And he would have built that up to five or 6% if there had been a second term. Now, Mr. Biden's out to 2034, 2034, defense to GDP 2.4. So from 3.7 to 2.4. I don't know what the arithmetic is about 35, 40% drop. And I won't tell you something else too. If I'm reading this and I'm going to ascribe it to my dear friend Larry Lindsey and hope that he doesn't get cross. But personnel are short, the number of active duty personnel is down 39% since 2008. Recruitment shortfalls are large and growing. And last year, the Army and Air Force were each down over 10,000. Those are remarkably bad weak numbers at a time when the world is sort of blowing up. What do you make of it, sir? Well, so it's my responsibility to be to be good stewards of the American tax paying dollar. But it's also my responsibility to make sure that Americans are safe and our allies are safe. This is the weakest we have seen our military and generations because we are focused on woke ideology instead of enlisting people that would just want to fight for this country to protect and serve this nation. And we have got to get back to that. I think that's going to be a priority for President Trump coming up here. But we also have got to rebuild our military. If you're not paying attention to what's going on around the world with China and with Russia and what's happening in the Middle East right now with Israel, a strong military, something that we absolutely have to have. But we have to have peace through strength. That's the most important piece of this. We are sending $200 billion to other countries. And the reason why that's happening is aside from our defense budget, the reason why that's happening is because we are viewed as the weakest that we have seen and generations. We've got to have a strong leader back. We have to reinvest into our military. We have to find young people that want to serve this country and not serve woke ideology. Congressman, you know, you look at this overall story. Let's just take peace through strength. A phrase that goes back to Ronald Reagan, my former boss, a long time ago, four decades ago. But it's stood the test of time. I think you would agree. The strength is home on the economy. The economy, if it's strong, and you're removing barriers like taxes and regulatory barriers or fossil fuel barriers, all right, that throws off the resources that enable us to pick up our defense spending and improve our list. You know, instead of being down, the Navy is down 6,000 from its own goal. We couldn't fight a two war doctrine anymore. Now it's peace through strength. Peace. Yes. But we need a strong economy to have the kind of defense strength. So people will, you know what, Machiavelli, it's better to be feared than loved. Always. That's what, you know, hundreds and hundreds of years and centuries have shown. We got, we're not there right now. We are not there right now. That's right. President Trump wants to unleash American energy. Keeping in mind when President Trump was president, Iran was broke. Hezbollah would never have made a move on Israel like we're seeing right now. The world was a safer place because we had a thriving economy. We had the highest growth of our GDP in our economy and modern history. If people realized that the United States was a forced to be reckoned with, especially when it came to our strong economy and how we were able to protect our world through strength. And so President Trump, which I think he's going to do by unleashing American energy, getting a lot of that tax revenue back, building up our military, paying down our debt. These are all basic principles about the economy that Democrats have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. And then furthermore, I want to talk about Kamala Harris. Could you imagine Kamala Harris negotiating with Vladimir Putin or Xi Jinping? It'll be a complete disaster. America's got to be able to realize we have got to have a strong man back in this room because these people are taking advantage of us and they're going to continue to do so. Again, peace through strength is a tenant that started off with Reagan and President Trump has carried the banner. We have got to have him back to carry the banner here again in 2024, 2025. Just one more quickly, Congressman, 30 seconds, please. Black unemployment. I'm sorry. Black male unemployment has gone from 4.6% to 6.6%. Now, I know you've worked on this. Byron Donald has worked on this. Mr. Trump has been working on this. 30 seconds, your assessment, Kamala Harris cut into that or can Mr. Trump maintain his margins among the minority groups. And black males included. Larry Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have got to own this mess. They've got to own what they have done to the black community. It is their failed policies. It is the increase in price of gas. It's the increase of inflation that has destroyed the middle class, particularly black males. And also with this immigration process, immigration crisis that we seen when President Trump said that they are taking black jobs, they absolutely are taking black working class jobs. This is a fact. They're taking American working class jobs. And Kamala Harris has been the vice president for four years. This is her mess. These are her policies. And if she gets reelected, expect four more years of this and more. That's why this election is so consequential. Yes, sir. Thank you. Congressman Wesley Hunt, we appreciate it, sir, as always. Of course, Larry, bless you. Thank you, Larry, as always. Take a quick break. We're going to have Senator Bill Hagerty next up on the Iran threat to Israel. I'm Kudlow. We'll be right back. We view the world the same way. I'm sure we'll have some disagreements, but you don't want to get her mad. No, you don't. The bottom line with Jagan and Duffy on Fox Business. It's the final chapter in the saga of this Higgins landing craft that saw combat during World War II and somehow ended up in Shasta Lake in Northern California. Exposed two years ago, after the drought caused the lake level to drop. Experts say the wooden boat was well preserved after spending 50 years in the dark, cold water. No one knows how it got here. But the boat's history before its remarkable discovery is well documented. Higginsboat 3117 was attached to the USS Monrovia, a warship that served as general patents headquarters during the Battle of Sicily. With their iconic dropdown ramps, Higgins boats transported soldiers from ship to shore for beach invasions, battles that helped secure the Allied victory in 1945. The last veteran who served with this boat on the USS Monrovia recently passed away, and the Monrovia itself was scrapped in the late 1960s. In all likelihood, Higginsboat 3117 is all that remains from this particular chapter of World War II. The design why these boats were so successful was the design by Higgins and brass, fixings in the Hoggany plywood. Just quality construction really gave the Allies the edge during the landings. Since its discovery, local military buff James Dunstan has preserved the Higginsboat on his property. But now it's headed to its final destination, the National Guard Museum in Seward, Nebraska. The cost to transport the boat there is being underwritten by philanthropist Virginia Cattle, whose late husband served in the Battle of Sicily. She wants to memorialize his service by bringing this rare artifact to their hometown museum, where the contributions of Higgins boats and the sacrifice of so many Americans can be studied and honored. In Trinity County, California, Claudia Cowen, Fox News. When Lieutenant Mark Quicks saw a car wreck in January, the off-duty firefighter and registered nurse rushed to help, only to be struck by another vehicle. From that point on, I don't remember anything. I just remember waking up in a hospital bed days later. Mark had multiple injuries, including to his brain and spine. Those first few days, we really weren't sure. First, if he would make it, and then how he would make it. His doctors sent him for rehabilitation at Atlanta's internationally acclaimed Shepherd Center. The professionalism, the bedside manner, resist outstanding. And I couldn't be at a better place. Other patients have experienced the same, including longtime Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer, who received eight months of treatment. In a 2018 thank-you letter, Krauthammer writes, "How you found staff so uniformly skilled, caring, competent, and energetic is beyond me. 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All right, joining us now, Tennessee Center Bill Hagerty, Center Hagerty, welcome. I want to play some Quiktape. This is Hot Off the Press, President Biden on the Tarmac in New Orleans. Take a listen. "We'll see what Iran does and we'll see what happens." All right, we'll see what Iran does. And they asked him a question what it's going to have. We'll see what Iran does. Is that a policy? Is that a statement? We'll see what Iran does. I thought he was engaged in one thing. I mean, really, is see what Iran does? It's there in the driver's seat, not us. Oh, they have been ever since Biden took office. The Biden-Harris administration basically pursued a policy of appeasement since the day Donald Trump stepped out of office. You know, Larry, when you and I worked together for President Trump, we helped impose the maximum pressure campaign on Iran that literally took them out of business and stopped all of this terror in the Middle East. President Trump was able to take out Soleimani. We were able to deliver peace throughout the region. As soon as Biden came in, he starts his appeasement process, playing both sides of everything. And now, instead of speaking from a position of strength, we're looking to see what Iran does. It's unbelievable. I mean, notice, I mean, he doesn't even say, first of all, I mean, he didn't even say don't, not that that mattered because Putin didn't care about don't either. And as John Roberts said, that don't is what you say to your dog, stopping him from taking your socks. But the other point is, why doesn't he say they'll, you know, they'll be made consequences. They'll be held to pay. They'll be this. Why doesn't he say, I got your phone number, and I know your home address? I mean, anything, anything, except this sort of passive, non-reactive phase. There's a very simple and regrettable reason. And that's because Vice President Harris is very much appeasing the Hamas left in her own party, the Pearl Hamas left in the Democrat party. They're focused on what's happening in Michigan and in Minnesota. That's what's happening right now. That's why Joe Biden can't be deliberative. He can't be thoughtful. All he does is react in a knee jerk way. And again, they try to play both sides to appease everybody in the process, making the entire region a catastrophe. Well, I'm not privy to any of this, obviously the national security stuff. But I would just say this, Israel has knocked out all these commanders. They've knocked out Hezbollah commanders right there in Beirut, and they've knocked out the Hamas commander right there in Tehran. That's got to give Iran, Hezbollah, and Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas some pause. I mean, Israel is not a paper tiger. I don't know about the United States, but Israel said the IDF is not a paper tiger. Yes. I think Iran actually is a paper tiger though. That's why they rely on terror. That's why they rely on proxies. You know, they're talking big game right now. When President Trump was in office, we took out Soleimani, Iran couldn't respond. They didn't. But now what they're trying to do is draw the United States into this, draw other Western nations into this, and argue this ceasefire deal must be accepted by Israel. A ceasefire deal is not going to be a good deal for Israel, because it's basically a win for Hamas. It keeps them in business. Israel needs to finish the job. The United States needs to clearly support that, and that would put an end to this. Instead, I fear that, again, given the political climate here in America, given Harris's need to appease the pro Hamas left in her own party, that you're going to see them weighed right into this thing, trying to support Iran in the process. I've seen some U.S. military men, though, say that, you know, Putin doesn't want Iran to hit Israel. Putin needs Iranian drones and Iranian weapons for their fight in Ukraine. And that might somehow be a restraining influence on Iran. Give you the last word on it. Well, I think the best way to restrain Iran is for the United States to speak from position of strength. In your previous segment with Congressman Hunt, you did a great job. We need a strong economy. We need a strong military to speak for spring. Yeah, we really do. Thank you, Larry. You're in for peace to strength. Senator Bill Hagerty, thank you, sir. We appreciate it very much. Folks, I'll be right back with my last word. Plainmaker Boeing granted a $2.5 billion government contract to make two prototype aircrafts for the Air Force. The contract awarded despite a slew of issues, Boeing has been plagued with, including their faulty star linership that has led two astronauts stuck in space for the past two months over safety concerns. From pinto beans to coffee beans, Starbucks, choose a Chipotle's chief Brian Nickel as its next leader. The chain is looking to stir up its business and deal with activists investors. Nickel will start as CEO September 9th. Small business confidence rose in July to the highest level in nearly two and a half years. The National Federation of Independent Business says it's reading rose to 93.7, which is the highest since February of 2022. Businesses are still concerned about inflation, but fewer reported raising prices or wages. And more people around the world are buying electric cars. An industry report says global sales of fully electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles rose by 21 percent on an annual basis last month. In the US and Canada, EV sales are up more than 7 percent in July. That's business. I'm CJ Papa. AI is changing every industry from the office to the grocery aisle. Fox Businesses Madison All Worth has a look at how the technology is changing the experience at the supermarket. I'm at Fairway Market, and I have the new Paper Instacart Smart Cart AI powered. I got David here with me. David, I got big plans tonight. I'm thinking spaghetti and meat balls. Can you help me shop? Excellent. 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