yeah. Hello and welcome to the latest episode of Phil Fries, me Russell and him Phil. Hello Phil. Hello, good evening. How are we all doing? Hopefully everybody's okay. Yeah, all good, all good. I haven't had to do any research or any reading up or anything for this episode to see. Yeah, going in blind and yeah, we'll see what happens. Makes a pleasant change, doesn't it? It's quite nice. Yes, because this is a well overdue. I'm finally getting on into the airwaves second episode of our golden silver and bronze seagulls episodes. We're just calling golden seagulls for short. It's only three years since we did the last one. I was listening to the heist movie. I've been listening about to loads of the previous episodes to just do the only research I've done for this. And I think it was around the time we did the heist movies, which was about two years ago that we were saying we'd be doing an episode either side or the last one. That didn't quite work out, did it? Yeah, well, it kind of went by the wayside. But we thought it's long overdue, do you? Yeah, this catch up. We've probably got two full episodes worth more or less to cover. So we're not going to do all that. We're just going to cover a period from when we last had one, which was after Ang Lee, I think it was. Yeah. So we are covering episodes from screwball comedy. I remember that because we recorded that one and the Ang Lee one in a pub in London while having an Indian roast and a few beers. It was brilliant. Yes, the day after my 50th. The day after your 50th. Yeah, we were a bit delicate. Just a little bit. Yeah. So the audio was different on that. That was one thing I was different about the thing on the episode. Yeah. And then we had the golden silver and bronze seagulls. So we were going to just sum up what we did, what we talked about so far in that one. And then we're going to cover everything from screwball comedies through to our Studio Ghibli episode, which was everything from Laurel and Harley onwards to cover in a later one and probably coming up later this year or early next year. That's the plan. So what we're going to do then, first of all, I'll give a quick summary of what we gave out last time, just as a refresher for everyone and for ourselves. And then we'll just go through it episode by episode cover the films we talked about in terms of what their value is worth. We look at it go silver and bronze, don't we? Yep, gold silver and bronze in the categories of film, music and acting. So those we're putting director under films really, just all those more. We'll take it as kind of like credits attached by default. Yeah. But music, which we've started to integrate, of course, into the ether and actors, which we've not really covered yet. So we might chuck some in there. We may, we may not. We'll see how it goes. Okay. So what we did last time, we gave out towards a gold silver and bronze on that one as well. We started off by talking about vertigo, sorry, about Hitchcock. So we gave vertigo, psycho north by northwest and rear window, or gold seagulls. We considered all four of those were, yeah, changeably brilliant. Undeniable, isn't it? Let's be honest. Yeah. We probably could retrospectively look back later and add some more for silvers and gold bronzes for those. But we've, we've got also what clearly came under our film of the year category. We had parasites, both our number one film of that year, 2020. We got, sorry, 2021, which we gave a gold. No, 2020. We were talking 2021 shortly. Yeah. Yes. Sorry. Yes. Yeah. So parasite, we gave a gold. We also gave gold to good, the bad, and the ugly. Once upon a time in the west, the searchers from our western episode, saving private Ryan from the war, well, the banks, wasn't it? And then from our sporting episodes, we gave the month 66 a gold. We gave raging bullet gold at the time, which is interesting because we've subsequently not that high up in Scossessie. That might be under review sometime later down the line, we'll see. Toy Story, Toy Story 2 and Toy Story 3 all got golds, as did Wally when we did Pixar. A crafting tiger, Hidden Dragon was the other one who got a gold, that's an ugly episode. We also did. Sounds like we were quite stinky with some of the golds there. Yeah. Okay. Trying to remind us of what sort of level of the gold is. This is mine. They've got to be fair. They have to be classic. They have to be a five star film, don't they? Yeah, definitely. On the matter of silvers, we gave, we didn't actually formally give it, but I think in a roundabout way, we did. So I think we can we can formalize it now. The post essentially got a silver, although we did technically say it. So the post has got a silver forest. Very underrated film that no one ever talks about, but watch it and you'll think, why is no one talking about this film? It's brilliant. Was that your number two, I think, or something? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Well, we also gave golds for Forrest Gump, for the Hank's episode. Two tanks. Yep. And then silvers for Pixar for the Incredibles inside out. Also, we gave silvers for Westerns for Brokeback Mountain and for Ang Lee for the Drink Man Woman. And then in the bronze category, again, going back to Pixar, we got a bronze in for Up for Finding Nemo. And in our films of the year, the trial of the Chicago Seven got a bronze in our sporting films, Rocky got a bronze as well. Okay. We have also, I think, again, sort of in a manner of fact way, actually, it was officially gave gold awards to Vertigo Psycho, North by Northwest, the Good, the Bad and the Ugly, and once upon a time in the West for music. Okay. Which we'd have gone on to talk about a bit more, haven't we? Yeah. So Westerns have come up in this episode that we're going to be talking about this time round. So that's what we've done so far. We may add things from what we've already covered in that category and that period in the future, we'll see. But in the meantime, we're going to crack straight on. That's a pretty solid list, isn't it? It's pretty good, isn't it? And there are a couple of little surprises in there as well. It's not all the ones you'd expect it to be. So that's good to know. Yeah, absolutely so. Absolutely. The trial of the Chicago Seven is another massively undervalued film that I talked about. It's brilliant. Yeah, it certainly is. So Scribble comedies is the first one we're covering then to to the bestow awards on this time. And we may add something from outside our top fires, we might not, but these are the top fires under consideration. They may not get an award at all, but we'll see. So with Scribble comedies, you had ball of fire at number five, which I hadn't seen at the time, have done since, think it's a great film. It's good, isn't it? It's not a gold and seagull, but it is a good film. It's just show over brawns. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, happy with that, that's fine. I went for the Philadelphia story at number five, which you had at number four. And what are we thinking for that one? I would probably pose a silver for that one. Okay, I'll go with that. Yeah, that is an excellent film. Because I think from that point on, the films are all absolute crackers. Yeah, so I'm sure you're okay with that. Yeah, because it sounds good to me. It's not quite the top bracket, but it is an absolute cracker, pretty good. Okay, so that was that was that, then at number three, you had the Libald Lady. Now, I've got to confess, I still haven't seen that. So, okay, I'll really comment on that one. So, over to you. All right, we'll leave that, we'll, we'll, we'll, it's a, it's a film you need to, you need to catch up on at some point. It's great. We'll leave that off the list. You know, I think we have to both agree. I think it has to be a criteria, really, for it to, to be on the, to be on the board. So, that's fine. You have some homework for next time. Yes, actually, I need to find a, find a way of seeing that, actually that one. Well, number three, I had, I don't think you've got it on your list at all, actually, which is interesting. I had bringing up baby number three, which I think are absolute cracker. I think we are. I think it's amazing. Did I not, how, why did I not have that? That, that, that is a gold, isn't it? You did. Yeah, it's a gold. I think you did one of your weird things where you said, you didn't want to have too many Kerri graphils or something. Oh, you know, when you do that. Yeah, I do do things like that. That's probably, yeah. I mean, it's just, it is a gold. It is one of the best comedic performances that ever done. Yeah, it's absolutely punchy, a rip roaring yarn. And I, I mean, both leads, you know, yeah, it's just got everything. It's, it's very much a classic example of the genre as well, isn't it? It's, it's just punchy. It's fast. You've got the, what they call the disruptor character of the female lead. It's interesting. I had a podcast the other day where they were talking about film war being the other side of the same coin as screwball comedies in the case, not a disruptor who's usually a female. Yeah. And antagonist, yeah, antagonism that will cause chaos and mayhem in the storyline. The male leads will be the, the victim of that or the protagonist. And then obviously, the stories then pan out differently, because they're different genres. But yeah, it's kind of an interesting comment. But I think this is a typical example of the genre. It's got all of those features. You have got the disruptor. You've got hilarious comedy, a far rip roaring pace, fantastic leads, fast paced dialogue all the way through. And it's bloody funny. And it's got some crazy crap in it. Yeah. Yeah. Great stuff. Okay. So we don't go. Yeah. Okay. That's my number three. Your number two, which I had seen at the time. Yeah. So there's a while ago now, I've seen it, which was your, your one was my name. Go free. Yeah. Well, we're thinking on that one. I think I'm thinking of silver over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm happy with that. Yeah. I don't, I don't particularly think it's completely screaming goals. But it is a very, very good fun film, very well worth of what's very underrated. Yeah. It's kind of, you know, I'm so yeah. I think that I think that's such as it. The way I look at it is silver is a nine out of 10 and gold is a 10 out of 10. Yes. That's, that's really good. Actually, that's exactly what I would say. And obviously bronze is about an eight. So yep. Maybe eight and a half. Yeah. Yeah. So that's all good. Um, and then of course, after that, we had tomorrow over, you had number two, didn't you? So my number two was your number one, which is it happened. It happened one night, which is possibly a gold. That's the best one. Definitely a gold is arguably the best. And there's two or three that could stake a claim. That's one of them. You was, I think you said at the time, it was probably one of the first, if not the first proper full-on screwball comedy to define the genre. And it nailed it. And it was just before the haze code came in. So it had that kind of degree of artistic freedom that the late films were denied. And it's just, yeah, and it shows you a part of America. But you know, I mean, this, this is a film that's 90 years old. So it's very much a kind of time capsule. And I found it absolutely fascinating. It's kind of the whole road trip part of it. Yeah. It's probably the first road trip kind of movie, you know. Yeah, maybe certainly a bit salt. Yeah, I can't really think what's what's gone before at the time. But yeah, certainly, certainly within that genre, it is. And you've got, as you said, you've got the topless Cary Grant scenes, which apparently caused lots of ripples. And it's before the haze code. So there was all that. There was the notion of staying in the same room as controversial, showing, showing how cool to get the hitchhiking. There's lots, loads and loads of bits in there, brilliant chemistry between the leads. Yeah, amazing guy. Whipshot, snap, sharp dialogue, you know, backwards and forwards. Absolutely sensational, worthy of a number one spot as you gave it. And I could easily have done the same. It really is up there as one of the best. And then that leaves my number one in the screwball comedy category, which is his girl Friday, which is. Yeah, which I also should have had a fair room for, but I don't know why I didn't. It's a gold. Yeah, gold star all day long, golden seagull. It's again, exactly what we just described. It happened one night in terms of brilliant, fast-paced rocket speed dialogue, great lead roles, strong female character. And this as well, this, the main lead female, who is playing a role of Hildegard, who's like, it's called between two worlds. She's kind of got fiercely independent. She's brilliant at her job. She's driving the narrative. It's all brilliant. Yeah. It's almost trying to keep up in tow. Carrie Garnt's just Carrie Garnt. Carrie Garnt's already sitting. It's super stuff, isn't it? Really, really good fun. It's one of my favourite films, which is why I end up at number one. Yeah, it's thoroughly worthy of a gold. I think they're kind of underbaitable, aren't they? Those ones, really. From what else we talked about, was there anything else you thought could have got a cheeky medal in there? I'm not sure if there's anything specifically, the Lady Eve is very good. Yeah. I think that's pretty much where you would expect to be. I think we have definitely picked up the classics of the genre, if it's something you don't know about and you were interested in start knowing where to start, where to go in. That's the best entry point, definitely. Yeah. So just to summarise, it happened one night, bringing up baby, his girl Friday or golds, Philadelphia story is a silver and we had, well, my man go for your silver, yeah. Oh yeah, that's it. And libel lady is pending, ball of fire just misses out and somehow or other, when I was counting that out, I just realised I left out my number four, which was the awful truth. Now that's probably good. Well, I don't know what you think. I think that, does that, could I get a get in there somewhere maybe? Yeah, the bronze, I think. I want to only bronze so far in that category, brilliant. Okay. So the awful truth is another career grant film, again, all of the same ilk, equally brilliant, except it's just not quite at that absolutely new gold level. But yeah, we'll give that a bronze then for the awful truth. Now, next up, moving straight. Look at the smile on his face. And my longest pod by far. Yeah. I think we're going to have to, I'm going to have to try and be critical here and it's going to be difficult because if I were to go on Mastermind tomorrow, there is no doubt it's either going to be this subject or the music, because I made it, you know, it's, it's one of the two. It is, of course, yeah, bond change. James Bond. Yeah, absolutely. I love that one. That was brilliant. It was quite fun. Yeah. I mean, we did have a couple of other ones that were as long, but we made them into two episodes. But yeah, it was great fun. Really good. There's so much to talk about loads and loads of correspondence as well. This one's tricky for me because I think you could probably, yeah, I wouldn't. I mean, for entertainment back to, then I put a lot of them up there. But in terms of quality of cinema, yeah, it would be a bit more subjective about these things that really haven't you? Yeah. So there might be things that aren't in our fives here, so I'm going to think carefully on this one. So just to, just to give a list of what we did, I mean, I had number five, I had the spy who loved me. It had a lot of nostalgic appeal for me. I had Skyfall at four on Her Majesty's Secret Service at three, which by the way, I'm regretting now. I wouldn't have had that in my five actually now looking back. Anyway, that's another matter. Casino Royale 2 and Goldfinger at one. And you had, if I recall, correctly, GoldenEye at five, for your eyes only at four, from Russian Love at three, Casino Royale at two, and the Living Daylight's Bracket's License to Kill. And I love Timothy Dalton and my two favorite bomb films. I know I mean, I know it's just, I was, you know, I was 14 or 50 when those film came, films came out and they are forever etched upon my psyche. Now, I'll be honest, I don't think any of them are golds. Well, any of them, any of the 10? Yeah, I would put a good argument at Silver for Casino Royale from Russia with Love and Goldfinger. I would agree exactly with that, slightly boringly. I think you're spot on there. Yeah. Just seeing if there's anything else. Yeah. Only other question I would say is, do you think Skyfall is worthy of a bronze? No, not quite, not really. I don't think so. I think Skyfall is overrated. I think I don't know why Skyfall would become such a beloved box office smash. It's great. Don't get me wrong. Yeah, well, I think GoldenEye is better than Skyfall. I think theorize only it's better than Skyfall. I think Square Love me is better than Skyfall. I think Moon Raker is better than Skyfall. Whoa! And I still like Skyfall. Don't get me wrong, but yeah. Blimey, right. Well, yes. So in fact, that was easy and expected. So we've gone, so we're going for from Russia with Love, Casino Royale, and Goldfinger have Silver's. Silver. Nothing else has gotten award. The only other thing is we had no time to die, which will pick that up in the 2020 month later. So we won't even talk about it. Yeah, we'll talk about it just logically by podcast. Yeah. Brilliant. That's the bonds. Anything else to declare on that one? Other than the fact? No, I think that's fair enough. I think even the most hardened James Bond admirer, such as myself, would deep down agree with what we're saying. Absolutely. Yeah. And that brings us on to film scores at the 50s. Yeah. I got those two that we had, didn't we, during this period we're going to cover. Now, as I mentioned a little bit earlier on, we've already appointed some spaghetti Westerns and Hitchcock films, thanks to Tony and Bernard Herman. I've already been given the first Golden Seagulls. They're all Golden Seagulls, those ones. Here we did our favourite films in terms of scores for 1950s. So not necessarily best films, and it doesn't have to be for it to get a Golden or a Bronze Seagull. Let's do this just in a counter down this time again, shall we? So again, you went first on that one, and you went with the Golden Voyage of Simba, which is a great soundtrack. Yeah. Well, I know you listened to it the other day. You text me, didn't you? Really excited. It's great. It gets something for me. It's really, it's not great. I don't think it's quite bronze, but it's a great, I mean, as I think, as I mentioned, soundtracks for me, I like being an epic. That is something that really announces itself, and you know, that certainly does. I don't think it's award worthy, but I think it's brilliant. And just listening to it, you just want to, you know, quite scared it is. Yeah, there's one bit in the soundtrack, as I said, I listened to it again the other day, where you've got the clickety-clacky kind of orchestration, which is obviously, I wasn't watching the film at the time. Quite clearly that's depicting the skeleton. That's the Simba films. They are a little bit ropey. They are great. I love them, but it's not high art, and basically you're sitting around waiting for the next to Ray Harryhausen bit to kind of come on. But they're still great fun. They're not famous actors. In fact, they're very, very dead list actors, aren't they? The stories are variable in terms of quality, certainly very sketchy in terms of overall direction. But the fact that we managed to talk about it on a board episode, I think it's great. Absolutely. Well, I went for another kind of big orchestration, going back, harking back to the Western genre, I went for the big country, which is absolutely seminal soundtrack, particularly the theme itself. That's definitely a wall worthy. It's got to be, it's so famous. It's pretty much of the identity for the Western, isn't it? I would say. Maybe the Magnificent Seven, which you might talk about later. I'd say I'd go silver, but I could be argued up if you're feeling persuasive. I think, again, we don't want to play the music, of course, we're bound by a copy right now. Yeah. But it's dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead. That's the tune just so people know what to do. I think it's so synonymous with one of the most powerful genres of America. Yeah. Okay. I think it's worthy of that, of the G. I think it's all right. You've taught me into it. It really isn't. Didn't take much twisting of the arm. No, it didn't. It's quite, I mean, it's just so rousing and so powerful and it's so such a signature for the whole of the genre. Even at the time it came out, it just seems so familiar. The first time you hear it and you just think you're on your horse wiling through some huge open vista in Monument Valley or whatever. Yeah. When music either creates some sort of weird atmosphere to go along with the film in one form like, for example, the spaghetti westerns or something like Rosemary's Baby, which we might talk about later, those sort of things. Or it's so synonymous. It kind of like drives the story. It's kind of oozes everything about it. It kind of informs the narrative pretty much. You can taste, feel, smell the film from the music, what are those? Yeah. Okay. Thank you. I've now done my full set. Brilliant. Okay. So that's the big country. And you had, again, another absolute stinking stonking classic of a film, The Seven Samurai. Yeah. The music I didn't expect you to pick that one, but it's kind of pretty good, isn't it? It is intriguing. Yeah. I think that's a bronze. I mean, it hasn't got that huge motif that you immediately do off the top of your head. But if you listen to it, it's a fantastic piece of work. Yeah. I think that's the thing is now, I think it's got to really scream out at you to get the gold, maybe the silver as well. But it is a fantastic score. But yes, maybe it just lacks a little bit of distinction that would mean I would probably go with you. Did you say a bronze? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I'll go along with that, actually. Yeah. I think that's fair enough for that one. Yeah. Okay. Right. Number four, we might argue about this. I'm not sure. We'll see. I went for one of the films from your favourite genre of the musical singing. So, yeah. This is tricky because I've never seen it. I agreed earlier that if we haven't both seen it, then we can't put it in. In retrospect, that's not because I haven't got around to it yet. It's because I have a passionate hatred of all things musical and I never will see it. So, I think this is extenuating circumstances. All right. So is it a matter of just me choosing on this one? I think it's a matter of you choosing. I know the songs. That's the worst thing, you know. Yeah. What I can see singing in the rain off the top of my head, mainly after watching "Got What Orange" but even before that. Yes. But yeah, I can appreciate its influence and its quality and just say it's a personal preference thing that for me, don't get it. Right. Okay. Well, for me, I think singing in the rain is one of the greatest musicals ever made, arguably the best. It's got a number of absolute stonking classics in terms of the songs, which drive the story along. It's indelibly linked and is real to kind of the the meat and bones of the film. It's all about the music of this film. Without the music, it's not much to it. It's obviously, it's depicting the story of the change from silent to sound cinema. It's got comedy in it. It's got great performances, some really great physical acting as well, particularly from Donald O'Connell, who is just incredible. Jean Kelly's brilliant dancing, all that stuff. But I think also on top of that, you've got really good score that underlies it and sits way through in between the songs. So you've got both amazing classic songs, if you love musicals, or even just like the best of them, which is where I am at. But it's also got a really good score that underlies it as well. I would be arguing a case for a gold on this one. It's so famous, so synonymous. Kind of like the big country in terms of, you know, it might be the first thing you think of, if you're thinking of a music, if you suddenly have on pain of death, have to sing a song for an American musical, sing this or the sound of music or something. At some point in the future we will have to do musicals and I will have to watch these films, but just not yet. Fair enough, fair enough, but it's okay. So pending any much later on debate that crops up after you've watched it, we'll call it a couple of them. Yeah, okay, I'm good with that. Great. So that brings us then. You had your number three was some set boot of order, which I didn't have in my top five, but I did have it in when we did Biddy Wilder beforehand. All of that afterwards. That was afterwards, doesn't it? But brilliant film, great soundtrack. Thanks, soundtrack. I'd say I'll go for a bronze for that as well. Yeah, I don't think it's the build and endle to the film, but it's a really solid part of the story. Yeah, really well done, really fits the narrative. Yeah, yeah, really good sort of sassy soundtrack. Yeah, bronze for sunset, boot of odd. I then had touch of evil at number three. Again, sort of like, yeah, it's great. Yeah, I'm not quite sure what to do with this one, because it's, again, it's very synonymous. It's got a very iconic theme that everyone knows, doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo. You know, everyone knows that. It's got a ticking time bomb element to it a little bit because the opening scene involves something that's relevant to that. Yeah. I'm going to be a little bit like the metaphorical ticking time bomb in Taxi Driver. I think it just really is a heartbeat to the film, but it's kind of like it's intermittent, isn't it, a bit sort of jazzy and it kind of weaves in and out a bit. Much I'd argue with bronze. Yeah, I mean, I'd be thinking bronze or silver. I could possibly talk you into a silver. It is pretty iconic. It's got a great beat to it. It does give you a percent of flavor for the area as well. It's got those kind of... Okay, let's go silver. Yeah, let's do a silver then. Yeah, okay, on that one, brilliant. Right, so that's a touch of evil. Then we had, well, you were talking about the big brassie. I have been. I know, didn't I? Yeah, been brilliant. As you said, it's a utterly boring film, really watching it back. It's one of those, it's one of those films that kind of peaks about two thirds of the way through and it should really finish there, but it does, like, goes on for about another hour or anything. Yeah. Which is why we put it way down the pecky order if we were rating as a film, but we were rating it, of course, it got to number two because it was there for the music. The music is fantastic, although it's got a silver or gold for me. Yeah, happy with that. Where are we looking at? So, trying to think now, silver or gold. I mean, it is an epic soundtrack, literally, but also metaphorically. God, it could be a case. I'm going to leave that one. Let's go silver. That was not your list. So, yeah, let's go silver. All right. Okay. All right. Yeah. Well, we can always change these if we have a change of heart, but yeah, happy with the silver for that one then. So, that was your number two. And then I had, I had my number two. This is another one of these weird ones you did. So, basically, I had North by Northwest at number two. You had vertigo at number one, which also I had at number one. Yeah, but I then got in brackets. Real number two is North by Northwest, was written down, which is what, I think it was either a summary of what you said or the literal one. Yeah. It's another one of those ones you didn't want to have too many of hermen in there. Yeah. It's got a double and voyager similar. I think we kind of, we've already put both of those in there already though, isn't we? Oh, yeah. So, of course, yeah. Yeah. So, that doesn't matter anyway. We've already got both of those. That's true. Good point. So, North by Northwest and vertigo. Yeah. So, that covers everything else, doesn't it, for me? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Completely forgotten what I said earlier on today there. It's been a long day, Phil, wasn't it? Not least for me. Right. Okay. Going along at a good rate of knots here. Yeah, we are. So, 2021, this is a difficult one. So, obviously, we had the pandemic that started principally around March 2020 and continue for the best part of two years. So, not a huge number of films were really released in 2021. Quite a lot of the sort of cinemas and studios that held their films back, didn't they, thinking, "This is going to be over soon and we can make all our money back then." So, there were some good films out. I, how many of them would actually be award worthy? We shall see. I don't think there are any silver or golds for me, but I think there's a couple of bronzes. Yeah. Well, yeah, exactly. Well, let's get into that. Well, actually, because there's a couple of cross-saves. So, if I just say, I started off by saying, "No time to dive is my number five." I might have had it higher actually on retrospective consideration, but I had it a number five. You had it a number one. Brilliant film. Really good. One of the best of the bonds. Yeah. I'd say that's a bronze. It was a a suitable one. I know it's long. I know it dips in the middle. The beginning of the end is fantastic. It did some things we hadn't seen from Bond films before. It was an excellent one. I'd say goodbye to Daniel Brake. I think it was for James Bond film. It's a masterpiece. I'd have that as a bronze. Yeah. I'd agree with that. Yeah. I'm happy to go with that. I remember you saying you went through all the emotions. You said you were in tears at one point during the film, I think. I figured a little bit. Yeah. And as you said, there are little blemishes in that, I mean, bits that don't work, maybe not quite as well. But it was, I think, really touching, really well handled. Yeah, fitting send off for Daniel Crake. But also, I love the little notes, which were kind of some visual, some narrative, but some musical as well, which were hints to the past as well. So it had that. It was very tastefully, very respectfully done. Yeah. And quite nostalgic, but in a good way. Yeah. I thought it was great. Okay. Bronze for no time to die. Fantastic. I'm happy with that. Right. You've got my number five and your number three, the sequel got greenlit this week. Nobody. Oh, yes. Nobody. Yes. I don't think it's a gold and seagull winner. It's a great film. Yeah. I can't wait to watch the sequel. It's brilliant. But it is not higher. Let's be perfectly honest. No, probably not. But it was huge entertaining. I really really hope they handled the sequel. Well, yeah. I need to watch that again. Yeah. Are you saying it's not worthy of any? I don't think so. I don't think so. It's popcorn. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen twice as well. There's not going to watch a second time so soon afterwards purely because I've got so many other things I want to watch. Yes. I did watch that when it was, I think, popped up on Netflix or something. I watched it. Yeah. It's just great. Really entertaining. It's not too far off the mark. And who knows? Who knows? We might retrofit it in. But yeah, I'm happy to skip that one out of it. That's fine. My number four was Sound of Metal, which is a film, as I'm talking about a musician who plays music, loses his hearing and he's coping with it. It's a tour de force performance. Brilliantly acted. Brilliantly told Story. It's got a small story in one sense. Yeah. Sound itself is hugely important in the film. Yeah. I think if we were giving awards for Sound which we're not, it probably got a goal. Yes. In terms of the fact it's not being awarded for that, it's just is it a best film or not? I'm not sure. I don't. It's good. It's a seven and a half, eight and a ten. It's my personal view. Yeah. Yeah. I'd probably agree with that. Also, I think the one issue I've got with films of, okay, that's actually three years old, but I'm not seeing it again since, but how films will age might be another thing to take. But yeah, I'm happy to go along with that. That's quite correct. I don't know if we're going to get into acting at this stage, but if we were, I would put him up for that. I think we should probably look through acting as a separate thing, maybe, because I think we're mainly too involved with lots of different things otherwise. So we won't consider acting at the moment, but as a film, yeah, just misses out, I think. And you had the last, I'm sorry, the last jewel, which is your right. Okay. It's not, it's not or worthy. It's a pleasant couple of hours in the hands of Ridley Scott, who's not what he was, but he's still an incredible filmmaker and a great performances by Adam Driver and Matt Damon, and I'm a sucker for anything medieval, so I just love the whole aesthetic and, you know, epicness. I wasn't over keen on it, to be honest, so I definitely wouldn't be thinking awards for that one. But yeah, I didn't rate it particularly highly, and it didn't feature in my five, for sure. So we'll skip that one. I mean, writers of justice, I'd imagine you've got to be connected to this to know that. Yeah, it's good for brilliant film, well worth watching. If you haven't seen it, it's a Danish film, Mads Mikkelson's fantastic in it. It doesn't go quite where you expect it to go all the time. It's very, very, very recommended, well worth watching. It's very, very solid, not quite or worthy. Yeah. I suspect the next one on the list is going to be pending anyway, because it's Le Petit-Mamam, which at the time you said... Sorry I haven't seen it. So we'll leave that one out of the equation anyway, no further discussion on that one. June, which I didn't have in my top five, I really would have. Yeah, it's got to be a bronze for me, the whole... I think that in a few years time, when we have June, June 2, that I think that they've greenlit June 3, which is going to be the second book, "Joomisiah," which kind of finishes the Paul L.G.A. and he's kind of story-ish. And then we're going to get the June Prophecy TV series about the Bene Gesser at coming at some point later this year. I think, or I'll be early next year, I think that as a combined piece of art and a view of where science fiction is at the current moment in time, I think it's brilliant. I do. I think it's a brilliant film. I would be happy to give it a bronze. It even looks bronze, doesn't it? It's got one's look for film. It couldn't be fitting. Yeah, happy to go. I think Danny Villeneuve can do no wrong in my eyes, quite frankly, and we'll probably be talking about the sequel of the interview year. Yeah, and we'll be talking about Danny Villeneuve for years to come, for sure. Oh, definitely. And after he's gone, as I imagine, we might not be, so you might not know what I mean. Yeah, so that brings us to our number one. Now, I was already mentioned. I had James Bond, yeah. Mine is the power of the dog, which you hadn't seen at the time. Yeah, no, I think, okay, I have seen it. It's brilliant. Yeah, I would say silver. I was going to say the same, yeah. It comes, but she's unbelievably brilliant, like he isn't everything. He's probably the most adaptable actor. I mean, if you think of one end of the scale, you've got Carrie Grant, the bass Carrie Grant in every single film, Benedict Cumberbatch, you never know which one you're going to get. He's ranges. I've never seen an actor like it that could do so many different things. He is absolutely incredible in this, isn't he? He's playing a really rugged, kind of deliberately scruffy, kind of old-school, masculine, kind of homophobe guy, homophobe. Yeah, just probably got every bit of bigotry under the sun, trying to be awkward and disruptor. And it's great how the story, I won't give it a way of people haven't seen it in a way that story twists around and it doesn't go where you think it's going to go. Yeah, woman's is a brilliant. It's interesting. The whole aesthetic and look of it, it's very interesting. Yeah, it's kind of an Australian Western, isn't it? Yeah, and set slightly in the later period than the traditional American Western period, which gives it a nice little different twist on a setting and a scene. And I love being taken to a different world, and being shown some characters, and to really, really get my teasers. I mean, it's quite miserable. It's not a date movie, but it is rather a filmmaking of the highest order. It's also got Jesse Plemons in it. Who is in everything? He's brilliant, everything, yeah. Yeah, who's always great. So yeah, okay, Silver, I agree with you on that one. I was going to suggest the same thing. Very happy. Right. Okay, we move on to our next one. Next up, we covered Francis McDormand. Yeah. So yeah, oh, yeah. So there's a few other ones to cover. Well, probably, by the way, we'll probably do the film scores at the 60s last and swap it with students. Yeah, that sounds good. A bit to talk about on that one, by the way, just to kind of give a precursor. Yeah. He made me Francis McDormand and I have a quick breather, shall we? Yeah, sounds good. Cool. So Francis McDormand, you went first on that one. Brilliant. You picked on an after reading, usually. Yeah, it's all right. It's good fun. It's not an award-winning. It's a seven and a half out of two. Very, very, it's a kind of a screwball comedy, the type that only really the current brothers make now. You don't really get many other films like that. And it's quite refreshing. I love, you know, George Clooney's brilliant in it. She's brilliant in it. It's Brad Pitt. It's great fun. It's a popcorn film. It's very entertaining. But you won't be thinking about it still a year later, like you would with power of the dog, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. My number five, which could easily have dropped off the five, actually, is No Mad Lands. You didn't like it. I thought it was all right. I thought it was a good film, but I didn't want to it. And it doesn't really hold, you know, like a really good film, you'd remember it. You'd be held by the images. I think I've got to watch that again. Yeah. I wouldn't want to watch this again in itself. There's a lot. And I don't remember a huge amount of it. So the combination of those two things suggests that wouldn't be in there. A lot of people have very highly rated, but I don't think it's worthy. I do think it's worth seeing. Yeah, it's a good film. So it's a good film. She's very good as a director, I think. And obviously, Francesna Dorman's really good in the film as well. But yeah, not more for me, not that one. You had Mississippi burning at number four, didn't you? Yeah, it's got to be a bronze, isn't it? Yeah, I think so. Good film, cracking, punchy. It's kind of terrifying in some ways, isn't it? Really gritty. You feel the kind of the sweater in South in that film. Brilliant. You put together Francesna Dorman for her. She's fantastic. She's kind of brilliant. Yeah, she's like the heart of the film. Yeah, she's the wife of one of the bigoted police officers. And she's kind of the linchpin where the story's able to swivel, Gene Hackman's able to kind of gain something from her, which drives the story on. Yeah, bronze, I'm happy with that. Yeah, okay. And I had another current brother's film, blood simple at number four, enjoyed it. It was their first film, I think. Yeah. It's good. I felt it. I loved it more the first time than the second, which has made it more on. I don't think it's quite there. Not quite there. It's raw, shows a lot of potential. It's like a 18-year-old premiership footballer coming on and having a run around. I think, you know, it could be good in the future. With a bit more money. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's, yeah, agreed. Happy with that. You had a number three and I had a number three billboards outside in Missouri. Yeah, that's a film, isn't it? Is it bronze or is it silver? Yeah, I've only seen it at once. I don't know if you've seen it more than once. I saw it twice. I watched it again when I did "Fants of a Dormant." Yeah, I mean, Sam Rockwell was incredible in that film. "Fants of a Dormant" is incredible in that film. Yeah. Yeah, and Woody Harrelson as well. Yeah. I'm happy with I, though, because I mean, we can always... Oh, let's go bronze. Don't give it too many away. I'll feed you a little bit stingy. Yeah, give it a bronze. It feels like a couple of bronzes in there anyway. And you can always upgrade it if we find on retrospective viewings of it. It's worthy of more. I think it's... Bronze is... we're talking really, really good. Yeah, yeah. Two ways about this. So I think that's good for that one. Happy with that. Then I said, you had that number two. Sorry, I had that number two. And you had almost famous number two, which I still haven't seen. I know. What would you have given it first of all? I'm biased because I spent my weekends playing 70s rock in a pub band. That whole kind of thing, that's my bag. That's my gem. So anything that's got 70s rock in here is about a 70s rock band that was sort of half based on Led Zeppelin, but most famous. And they go on tour and you see everything happening and have the songs and everything else. I'm always going to love it. It's like James Bond. It's always going to be hard on this for me. So it's difficult for me to be quite sort of objective as I am about other things. We'll wait till you've seen it. Yeah, all right. I won't get around to seeing that one. Sorry, I only realized too that I haven't seen it in doing the prep for this. But yeah, okay. That one's pending as is the libel lady. And I think that's it. It's the other one we... And sounded the music. Might be more dependent on that for a long time. Oh, sorry, you're singing me away. I won't be pending for a long time. Fair enough. If and when I get to see the other ones, I'll show them, bring them up in general conversation. One of them are other random episodes, actually, as we can always add it in as a winner. Now, at number one, quite startlingly, we both had the same film. It's a gold. It's a gold. It's a gold. It's still their best film. Five season TV series, probably still counting. Brilliant in every way. It's funny. Every character is completely unique and has their own little quirks and everything. It's just brilliantly done. It's set in a kind of world you don't see in any other films. And it's just got a kind of charm to it that it's very difficult to do. Yeah, it's so distinctive. It's got such a strong identity. The only other films I can think are in that general field. If you think of something like Misery, that kind of world like middle of nowhere and some sort of like slightly black comic crime scenarios going on, but it's so different to that film. I mean, a good example, but a bad example, if you know what I mean. Fago is so distinctly different. You really feel like, wow, I've just arrived in a whole different world here. I believe everything about it. It's quirky and weird and wonderful, but completely believable. The acting's brilliant, as usual. As you said, every single character just adds extra layer to the story and the performances are just all snow-perfect. Yeah, and I mean, it's got what at the time was the only time I'd seen a really unfashionable injury when the guy gets shot across the bottom of the shot, something, doesn't he? Which is kind of the typical, how you imagine a reality would be if someone got minorly injured by a shot. He wouldn't just get a leg injury. It would be some really awkward weird injury. Who would have thought years later that an orange tango buffoon would get shot on the edge of the ear, or did he? He's the only other person I could think of, allegedly, has been shot in a weird or awkward way. Anyway, Fargo, it's a nail on gold for both of us. Right, okay then. Well, that's the halfway mark, I think, thereabouts. In part two, we've got the other subjects to cover in there, some juicy ones. We've got Billy Wilder films, Heist movies, the film scores at the 1960s, which will do last, and just before that, we'll do the other one, which is another cracker studio. Can't wait to talk about those again, absolutely love them. Okay, to part two then of this Golden Sea Goals, where we talk about gold, silver and bronze awards, are we giving to the films that we have so far reviewed as part of our Film Fives back catalogue of episodes? We've been going through episodes since the screwball comedies, and we've got as far as Francis McDormand, we're now going to cover Billy Wilder through to Studio Ghibli and our films of the 60s scores. That's what's coming up next. We're going to crack on without any further ado, aren't we? Billy Wilder was next, and I was first to go on that one, and I gave Ace in the whole number five spot. Didn't make your five thoughts on that? Not very good. It's a sort of film that I wouldn't normally say this, it's quite an hour for Remay, because it feels like such a topic that is still very, very prescient today. I don't think it's quite at brawns, but it's very close. No, I mean, I probably would have thrown it in as a proposal, but I'm quite happy to say it just misses out for now. Yeah, it's not my favourite one. I would say that my top four Billy Wilders, I think you're also the same, well, they're literally the same in a different order, were, you know, are cut above the half nose, so they'll probably be... Oh, I had Stalex 17, I think, did nine number five. Yes, I was going to say... Similar for that, another great, great, great film, but not right. Yeah, I can't say you got a worthy. No, we'll stick with those, it's just honourable mentions, essentially. So, I was saying just not fair that I probably regret having the apartment in number four. I could have interchanged any of my top four. Yeah, I had it in number one. That was the cream of the clock for me. The apartment is a stone cold goal for me. It is a stone cold goal for me. I would have had it in number two, if I'd have done the same episode now, and in that might change it, even further away. But I think it's absolutely brilliant. It's got, again, brilliant performances, a really good concept, multi-layers, it's quite poignant, it's really sad, isn't it, that Shirley McClaincat, there's a real sort of melancholy kind of... Batman is so good. He's just brilliant, I just love Jack Lemon anyway, and this is probably his model performance, isn't it? His absolute best. Tour de force. Yeah, I'd also have some lucky hot ones and they're out on gold. Yeah, which I had at number one, you had at number two, so they both go straight in as golds. Sunset Boulevard, we've already talked about from music point of view and one of the other episodes, but in terms of it as a film, what are we talking about? I'd be thinking silver, don't I? I think it's silver. I think it's silver. Yeah, we're very good. It is an absolute classic, it's right up in then, on Shallons, but maybe... It's another fascinating kind of period of time, but you know, you kind of didn't happen again, it's, you've got this old-sided movie star who's kind of living in the big house who's no longer a star but thinks she's going to get it, and then you've got the cameos in it and the music's great, which is brilliant. Okay, apartment in some like it, I'll get golds. Sunset Boulevard gets a silver, the other one, we both have... I think I'm going to go for a silver for that as well. Silver as well, it's an absolute classic of the film, noir genre, it's an absolute classic of Bill Biddy Wilder's filmography, and I think it's got again, multi-layed it, it's super Barbara Stanwick's brilliant as the femme fatale. I like the fact that the, what you might call the victim, the sap of the story who falls to the femme fatale isn't actually that, there's a bit more turt and that Fred McMurray plays a guy who knows exactly what he's doing and wild and entanglements occur, literally am metaphorically in the film, don't they? It's great, it's brilliant, it's worthy of a silver, please you agree with me on that one. So that's pretty well done, that was quite quick. Yeah, well we had a lot of that, we had pretty much the same films. So we did we did, we did eist films next, and I don't think we both, it was great fun, I had a lot of fun doing it, I don't think we quite really agreed on what a eist film was, so we had kind of very different lists based on what I thought a eist film was or what you thought a eist film was, but it didn't matter because it was great anyway. Yeah, so for example, you had Dog Day afternoon at number three and I think it's a brilliant film, I didn't have it in my top five, so I wasn't comparing it, category worthy in terms of it's not an out and out heist for me, but then again, you know, that kind of works the other way, but you had the you had inception as well, which is quite a good valid choice as a heist, but I didn't actually think of that at all. Yeah, I have a sting as well. Yeah, and the sting which again I would- Which is not technically a heist, but you could understand why I think it's- I could, but I thought you were bending your own rules a bit, I didn't include it. I just wanted an excuse to watch it again, so we just go for it one by one then and work out exactly right, you went first, so you go first here, you had number five. I have fast and furious five, absolutely brilliant film, but only one of the whole franchise worth watching. Yes, which you said at the time, I hadn't seen it at the time, I have- Have you seen it? I did finally see it about a couple of months ago, very recently actually. It's quite, it's fun, isn't it? It was great fun, I actually really thought that I've got no particular desire to watch the other films, I never had, I only watched this on your recommendation, but I thought someone else said the same thing as well, they said it was already good, so I thought all right then. It's not a war winning, but it's a great way to spend the Saturday night. Yeah, it's ridiculous. You get a pizza and a few beers, and you watch two sports cars drag a huge safe the size of a room around Brazil. That was absolutely ridiculous and probably plausible of course, but none of that, it was hugely entertaining, I feel like initially possible, the recent one was, you know, it's kind of just good fun, yeah, but yes, not a war. I'm really impressed you watched it, well, that's my day. At least we talk about this. Yeah, and then I had, number five, I had a film which I think you just didn't include in your five rather than characterize it, which was a baby driver, modern classic I think. I'd say that's a bronze. I think it's a bronze, I think it's that good, it's really good on the needle drops, which he always is, isn't he? Yeah, but aside from that, he's got John Han playing out of character as a, something like a banker turns bank robber, wasn't he? Or something? Yeah, you got an anachronistic and hooked up with a girl and got involved in his gang. Yeah, it's, it's a proper egg. Well, all these films are, but it's got his DNA, his fingering all over it. And the central concept of the getaway driver being the main focus manager is interesting, given his chronic tinnitus as well, and the way music's used obviously is within the story. As you said, Edgar Wright always uses the music well, one of the number of directors that does before and since, but he uses it particularly well here. I think it's a great fun, good entertainment, I've watched it again, loved it again. So I think, I think we're talking, you said bronze, didn't you? Yeah, I agree with that. I'm going with bronze, yeah. Okay, well, we're very agreeable tonight, this is good. It's not a great year on an award, actually, that will be quite awkward. Right. Number four, we both had the remake and the more famous and certainly much better version of Ocean's Eleven starring well, loads of people. Yeah, loads of people. So it's quite easy to be sniffy about films like that and say, it's not high art, I got a load of famous people together. But to be so effortlessly cool, it's a very difficult trick to turn off. Yeah, I think it's a bronze. So do I and again, a bit like June, it kind of looks bronzy, doesn't it? Yeah. So yeah, I'm happy to go with that. If you'd have said it, not just Mrs. The Mark, I've probably been okay with that as well. I think it's great. I think your last point there is the direction is it's, it's really, it's very easy on the OI. It's easy to watch it. It's great that you're kind of, you feel part of the high speed, don't know everything that's going on and they're still surprises. It's coming in. It props, Saturday night, popcorn film, but with one of the best castes in the history, let's be perfectly honest. Really good cast. It doesn't have to be all stars, does it? But it worked well, which is, as you said, hard to put on. And they're not competing with each other. You know, it's a very much an ensemble piece. It's a, it's a, it's a sort of film that I think Hollywood tries to do in kind of that sort of thing quite a lot. And it doesn't feel often. It usually always fails quite heavily sometimes. And as you said, that balance, I think you said on when we did "Heist" and we were covering it at the time, getting that balance of having the audience know there's something more than the characters, but not having self-step out. So they've still got a bit of a surprise. It's not a balance right. Within the script, the story, the way it's told, the direction is, is not always easy. So it's, it's carried it off well. And even though we got it both at number four, I agree. Bronze. Brilliant. Then you had number three, you had "Dog Day Afternoon." So I'd argue for a silver for that. Yeah. Well, I mean, for me, I, I didn't think of it as a Heist film, more than just a bank robbery film/drama. Yeah. The fact it's been included on the list means it's for consideration and under consideration as a film. So then I'm just not talking about whether I like it or not. So yeah, I do. I think it's bloody brilliant. Fantastic. Yeah. Pacino is best and probably one of his earliest best performances. But before he turned into just doing our Pacino in every film, in the nicest possible way, he's quite a great big ass. There, which is another film we'll be talking about a second. Yeah, it's, it's, you know, back when he still had some subtlety. I mean, not to say he didn't in later roles, but he kind of did, he turned into a bit of a caricature. I'd hate to say that. And he did doing everything. But you know what I mean? It's just playing him. So he's playing the same role, isn't he? Just ultimately nowadays. But back then, yeah, he was at the top of his game. He played one of three bank robbers that ends up being just two of them who are a couple and one's trying to, basically they're trying to rob this bank in order to fund a transgender operations. That's right. It's been a long time since I've seen the story. True story. Yeah. True story is based on handles the story pretty well. I think it's just, you keep the tension all the way through, which you do need with that. Considering it's all not pretty much the vast, vast majority with 90% of the film set within the same couple of rooms. Yeah. You know, it would make a brilliant play. Some others already, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I'm surprised. Absolutely. Fantastic film. I love that. It's one of those peak films of that era. It was 70s, isn't it? So all of those films, there's so many good films in that era involving just a small number of directors and certainly, you know, when we do talk about acting, this is coming up for discussion as well. Superp. Yeah. And you're saying silver? I'm saying silver. Yeah. I think so. It's just one notch away from being absolutely amazing. So yes, I'd say a silver for that one. So you had that three. I had the Lavender Hillmoor classic Ealing film at number three. That's what I love. All right. It's great. Well, we think, I mean, I think it definitely has to get an award. I think it's one of the Ealing classics. There's six that was included in one one package as to being the sixth best. Yeah, probably there will be more or less on a par. We're not talking about the other one, so we're just talking about it. Alec Guinness is a guy who's been an upstanding a company to the to the bullion when it goes on its journey of bypass. And he's been above suspicion and completely and utterly trustworthy, justifiably and earnestly. But just as he's coming towards his retirement, he suddenly starts having an ocean of doing something naughty, runs into some criminals and he kind of entices into a scenario, I won't bore you with the details, but Sid James clonshire window, I think. And he ends up with a small group of thugs, because he's already there as the insider. You've got the perfect scenario. He's so trustworthy, they could carry on. But the brilliant bit about it is they then try and smuggle the gold out, disguised as Eiffel Tower souvenirs. And there's a whole load of hilarious shenanigans that go on in part with the school, and all sorts of won't go into the details of them to say. It's got to be a silver, isn't it? I think it's a silver. Yeah, I think so. I think I think that's the right home for that. It should be a goal given the subject matter, but I don't think it is. Yeah. It's just my option. Yeah. Anyway, so yeah, that's great. Thank you. I'm happy with that one. You've got a number two inception, I didn't consider in this category, but you did, so we'll talk about that. Fantastic film, Chris. Chris, it's a silver again for me. A silver, yes. I've only seen it at once. My only reservation would be, would I like it as much the second time? Yeah, I think so. I've watched it a few times. You need to. I think every Christopher Nolan film with the exception of Tenet is silver and above, to be perfectly honest. He's just brilliant. Well, we'll continue to talk about that subject in more detail later, I'm sure. But it happens to go with a silver, yeah. I mean, maybe I'm rather down the line, I might not think so. It's so clever. From what I remember, it's high concept, and a lot of kind of high concept films don't sustain the whole running time of the film, particularly if they're like two and a half hours or whatever. But he really has this idea that's very clever, you know, they're going into dreams, and plans for this. And it doesn't mess up the landing, it stays completely riveting. And that whole concept, he kind of milks for everything it's worth, and he gets maximum mileage out of it. It's one of the best films of the 21st century for me. Yeah, I would say so. And there's also, I mean, there's the iconography in there, the spinning top thing, the bopping scenery. Yeah, there's certain certain other scenes as well. The sound production's brilliant on it, which is not a surprise for Christopher Nolan film, but yeah, I mentioned while we're talking about this one. Interesting. And I'm worthy of multiple viewings, which is always not always a good thing, but usually a good thing. And I just got round to it, because it takes a bit of time to watch a new time, eventually watch it again. But pending any further alternative opinions, I'm happy to go with the silver for that one. I mean, you can be a bit of concession on a couple of things anyway. So if I was wavering between bronze and silver, I'd go definitely silver for that one. So thank you. There we go, marvellous. Right. Now, number two, I've got Stanley Kubrick classic The Killing. This is a black one. That's quite a brilliant film. I've seen it so many times. I did it. I did it when we did Stanley Kubrick films, didn't I? Be sure he's on the list for that. Yeah. Yeah. I'd say I'd say that's a silver. Yeah. I would say the same. Yeah. Yeah. It just feels like a lot of films that there haven't even been even more to it, maybe, maybe, maybe. And just because of that, yeah, possibly we keep it as a silver, but it's absolutely superb cinema. Getting a silver seagull from us is, you know, we don't give them out lightly until we film. Yeah, exactly. It's great. He's great. All of the film is brilliant. The great concept, some interesting side characters in it as well. We mentioned that guy who pops up with the teller who's the insider of racist, unpleasant, John Taturo alike. Yeah. Those on the top of the horses. Yeah. A lot of unlikeable characters. Stanley Kubrick was like in his mid-20s, first film I think just got in technically brilliant masterpiece. That's really nice. Yeah. That's incredible. I suppose none of the characters are particularly likable. That's one of the, one of the slight nags to it, maybe, but yeah, silver. I'm happy with silver on that one. Yeah. Yeah. Brilliant. So again, we come back to you with one that I've not thought for consideration, but you did, and you got it number one, and it is a fantastic film, and it involves one of your favorite characters, Robert Shaw. For me, it's a silver. We can discuss if you want. It's very, very, very cleverly done. It's kind of a bit similar to kind of oceans and levelling. There's a big cast. It's very, very, very clever, and it will make you smile, and you'll be happy after watching it, you know. And there's twist in it. Yeah. The characters all, one might fool you, probably will, definitely fool you, but again, it's just sensational. It's a brilliant double act, isn't it? One of the double acts of cinema have also done other stuff together, but this is as good as anything they've done. Music's great as well. You've got the Scotland, Scotland, yeah, the entertainment, yeah. It's interesting. I heard a podcast a few days ago, I think, or a few weeks ago. I think it was actually the Mark Como's podcast that he does with Elene Jones, who's really good as well. He's called Screenshot, they did for BBC. I think it's Radio 4, and they were talking about how a lot of people's perception of Scott Joplin was that he was white, it's not black, but he is in fact black. Yeah. And I think that's because of the film, because all the people in the car, it's because it's cool, isn't it? Because that music is brilliant, and it's so, sort of ragtime music. Yeah. Because it's said in what, so this is like '20s, is it, or even the 1910s? '20s, I think, but yeah, yeah. And it's great, yeah. I mean, framed in separate chapters, and it all kind of comes together. Yeah. You don't know everybody's quite know everybody's motivations. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Solid performances throughout. As you said, it's got Robert Shaw in, who would definitely be able to do at one point. I'm quite sure. Great. Yeah. Happy to have that at Silver. Yeah. I haven't seen it for a very, very long time, but if I get around to seeing it again, I don't know, maybe I'll give it more. Who knows? And then number one... You are the Italian job, didn't you? Italian job, yeah. I don't think we're talking a majorly high award here for this one, for sure. I don't think it's a gold. I don't think it's a silver. It is a bit of an old classic. There's an argument for bronze, I think. Yeah. The thing with the Italian, it is, again, effortlessly cool, much like oceans and ever, and it's really, really fun and well put together. But ultimately, you're just waiting around for the minis at the end, for the two fairs of the film, or when you watch it. When the minis get a bit, or you want to watch the bits from Noel Coward, and then you want to watch the minis. It's got classic lines, it's got classic actors on it. And you're supposed to blow the bloody doors off. You've got Noel Coward, for God's sake, because I think it's the key boss man. It's so good. It's great. It's got great car sequences. As you said, they have the Matthew, I think, we're involved in getting the traffic to come to a stand still for real, so they can film it. You've got these epic chase scenes and long shots of Milan, isn't it? I'd say it's a bronze, but yeah, I'm trying to work up the argument for a bronze here, because I don't think that's fair, or silver. Oh, you're okay with that. I thought you were going to say that. It's bronze. When I think that, I think that's what I was just thinking back holiday Mondays as a kid and watching it on TV. When the minis get going to be on? It is an iconic classic, isn't it? I think the minis, the Union Jacks, the song, the cliffhanger, literally, at the end, and a few of those lines that you just mentioned there, I think, give it that. I know you said that the one quan against was Benny Hill, was in it at the time, just a bit weird and slightly disarming. I've forgotten that, obviously, until later when I saw it again, I went, "Oh, my God, Benny Hill's in it." Yeah, it's a bit of a horrendous character as well, inviting today's standards. 3p, guys, isn't it? Yeah. It's not the guy that, if he was a real person, the character he's playing, would have been someone working for the BBC in the 1970s. Let's put it that way. Okay, so the other thing I was going to say about Hightfield, there's the one film that neither of us mentioned, is Hight. Oh, yeah, we were sort of, that was kind of my number six. You mentioned it was actually, I think, after we arrived at the time. See, that's a brilliant film, is it bronze? Well, I think it might be, I've only seen it once at the cinema. Really? I've even seen it with you, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, Marina? That's 30, yeah, yeah, yeah. About 30 years ago, yeah. I know. Okay, maybe it might be a whole far on that. That's quite far on it, because I'm missing it like it, as much as I did. Not that matters, particularly, but I've only seen it the whole action sequence in the middle, where they do the bank robbery, and they're all out in the street with, you know, and I think they had that Andy McNabb from the ex-SES guy who taught me how to add the guns and how to move. Yeah, that whole sequence is absolutely brilliant. It's so well done. The film's probably off now longer than it needs to be. Yes. But, you know, it's got a brilliant cast, and it's a brilliant film. We're bound to do Al Pacino. We're bound to do Robert De Niro. We're bound to do Michael Mann, so at some point, we do Michael Mann, I suppose. I want to do Val Kilwood, just so we can talk about top secret. That would be a weird choice. Who knows? No, maybe not, maybe not. Yeah, so Heat is one for later consideration, yeah. But good shout though, because I need to see that again. I really do, yeah. Okay, well, we said we'd leave film scores in the 60s or what? Ghibli. Jump head to the other one that was on the list, which is, yeah, Studio Ghibli. A seminal thing. One thing, I listened back to the episode, and I think at the time you said that Totoro is kind of like the Winnie the Pooh for Disney, and having listened back to that, I thought, "You what?" So I think I'm not landed, said, "Oh, yeah, maybe," or Winnie, or Mickey Mouse. Definitely the Mickey Mouse, not Winnie. Okay, bear enough. I've never seen any of the Winnie the Pooh Disney because it looks... You don't have children. Read the Winnie the Pooh books. That's not Winnie the Pooh. Just wanted to get that out there, by the way. But anyway, yeah. Totoro is the icon. He's the Mickey Mouse of the Ghibli world. He's one of the earlier films. I had it in number four. You had it in number three. So that's what people would know, and they think of Ghibli. And if they've seen any of their stuff, they've almost certainly seen Spirited Away. They might have seen other things as well. We'll count it down, though, shall we? So you... Yeah, let's go for it. You went for Ponyo at number five, which I... Well, one, I think you're a daughter, one of your daughters. Yeah, I love Ponyo. And I know my mate James from Lancaster is a massive fan of the reason that I didn't pick it. What do we think about that one? I only saw it at the once. I thought it was charming and nice. It's a fairy tale. There's an argument for it being a bronze, I think. Yeah. If you don't want to go that far, then no problem. No, I'm happy to give it a bronze. I thought that's fine, because it is pretty charming little film. Some people's number ones. That's kind of worthy of something. But from our points of view, you had it in your five. And it is a sweet film. It's basically, isn't it? But it still is. You can watch it. When you say it's a sweet film, it's still quite weird as well. Which is one I like enough to think of it, being in there. Because sweet on its own, of course, is not. Disney is not. Yeah, no. This is the thing I love about Ghibli over Disney. The Disney stuff, the hand-drawn stuff is on a par, I think, the two at their best. Maybe Ghibli even edges that. But in terms of the subject matter, there's a couple of times Disney goes dark, doesn't it? The forest scene in Snow White, and Bambi's mum being shot, and stuff like that, is kind of... It goes dark, but this goes kind of weird as well, these films sometimes, and that's why I love that. Yeah. So, yeah, happy to have a bronze on Ponya. That's fine for me. I had... So, yeah. So, I had my neighbour, Tottara, at number five, actually, so I was looking at the wrong way around, I think. I surprised I put it at five, actually, could have had it higher. But I think with hindsight, graver the five fires might have been lowered down in my ratings. I think they didn't quite make my list. Tottara, is it a bronze, or is it a silver? What would you say? I think it's teetering in the silver category. I think so, too. A lot of the same happens as Ponya, but because it's got this such an... It's quite a short film, and it's only about an hour and a quarter long, and not really a great deal happens. Right. But the whole... You're drawn into a kind of world, and that you've got a boss made out of a cat, and people that, you know, just don't ask questions, but it's just... It's beautiful. It's utterly charming. It's beautiful. Yeah. And it's weird. Nice. And it's just iconic. I mean, the image of Tottara, there's the giant one, and there's a small one. I've got some of those fridge magnets. I've got an ornament in my bookshelf with Tottara, kind of a clockwork thing. I love it. I think it's great. It's such a beacon for the... for the whole studio is superb. It's just such a brilliant invention, the character itself, and it just doesn't really talk, just makes noises, the bass heat kind of rumbling noises. But it's just... It doesn't matter. It's just lovely, and so offbeat. I've also, since you did arguably recording, I've seen both my neighbor Tottara and Spirited Away on the stage, both great. Tottara was at the Barbican about a year ago or a few months ago, and Spirited Away, I saw literally just a few short weeks ago at the London Coliseum. I don't know if they're either of them, they're still going to be available, but if they are, I highly recommend watching them. They're really good fun for any ages, and there's some great little set pieces in there. Pretty true to the original stories. I preferred Spirited Away A, I think it's about a story. Also, it was in Japanese, whereas Tottara, at least the one I saw was in English, which so kind of slightly takes something away. With these films, I always watch them as subtitles and chapters. Yeah, no, no, exactly. Proper way, proper way. Yeah, exactly. But anyway, yeah, so we're talking silver, do you think? Yeah. Okay. Brilliant. Super, my neighbor Tottara gets a silver. So I had that at... I'm sorry, we both had Princess Mononoke at number four. Yeah, that's a silver. I think it is, as well. Yeah, it's brilliant. It's a proper adventure story. Again, a bit weird. Yeah. Interesting. You're kind of, "Well, what's going on?" Oh, yeah, no. But it's a fully idealised world that you're just pulled into, and if you just go with it and kind of live in it in a film, and just don't ask too many questions about what's going on, you're here for a great time. As with most of his other stuff, there's lots of earth saving, environmental messages, and you've got multiple characters with multiple dimensions to them. You're not quite sure who's what, what the agendas are, who you can trust. A couple of people change their minds about what they want to do, who's going to help who. Yeah. Well, that's what I love all that. There's so many details. And the whole... Oh, the art is fantastic. Oh, the artworks, brilliant. Oh, Iron Town thing, and just the rumbling forest and hill scenes, and just superb in it as well. Great film. Silver, yeah, 100% agree. Not quite as densely brilliant as certain other things we might mention in a minute. Yeah. But other than that, fantastic. Yeah. Okay, so we both had that at four, you had Totoro at three. I had Great for the Fireflies at three. Very, very poignant film. Yeah, I didn't include it. It's unrelentingly grim. Let's be honest, it's bad. It is a... It is one of those films that you watch, and you say, "That was brilliant. I'm happy I've watched it. I'm never going to watch it again." Well, I did, but I'm a bit weird. I mean, first time around, made me cry. I thought, "Wow." Just so sad. I'm not sure I quite enjoyed it as much as second time. So I'm happy to kind of... I'll say, it's a bronze. Yeah. I mean, it's one of the two founders, I forgot his name, Takamata, I think it's name, isn't it? Yeah. It's probably his masterpiece, you would say. Certainly. Yeah, great. Okay, well, yeah. Let's go with the bronze, because it is an iconic film, and yes, it's pretty powerful stuff. Yeah. Okay, good, good. Then we're on to our number two's. You had... How's moving castle? See, this is a proper adventure film. I don't, technically, maybe it's not quite up. There were some of the other ones, but the whole story just really carried me away. I really enjoyed it. As in, the whole fantasy element, it was something I kind of had seen before. I think this is an absolutely brilliant film. People don't mention it in the same breakfast, or it's spirited away. For me, personally, it's up there, but I know that I'd be in the minor routine. I liked it. I liked even more the second time I saw it. I hadn't included it in my five, but I could easily have done... I could have actually got in and out of grade with the five lives. Okay, another one of these ones that I've got in a bit of a weird way. I think it's great. I think it's densely packed with lots of stories. There's multiple kind of worlds that she goes in. There's the quirky kind of... There's that weird sort of like fire thing, isn't there? In the corner of the fireplace. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just, it's a magical world. He's in love with a number of things. I think the air flights, and his dad was an aircraft designer. So he loves those sort of worlds. He loves fairy tales. He loves European stories, including old factory stories. But he's an obviously Ariati, from the borrowers he made Ariati, from Howl's Moving Castle, which was a British story. And he's done stuff in the past, I think, a high-D as well way back when way before the Studio Ghibli Bira, which came in the story. So he loves all those things. This is very much a terribly part of that. I think it's great. I'm happy to give it an award. It's just a matter. I think I'll leave it up to you because you've even more impassion than I was about the film. Silver? I'm silver, but I don't know if it's quite silver for everybody else, but never mind. It's our podcast. Let's go silver. It's our podcast. I suggested a silver. Yeah, let's go silver for Howl's Moving Castle. Brilliant. And I don't think... Oh, I know my number two as well. We can't miss that one out. I had a number two, something you didn't have in your five. So that was a bit weird. We both did that. Yeah. I had Laputa Castle in the sky also sometimes. That was like my number six. Yeah. Great film. Great, very great film. I really enjoy it. That's on the earlier ones, wasn't it? But it's a incredible story. I think you said the title of visuals. It stands to test the time. It looks like it could have made recently. It's great. I love this film. I think it's really good. It stands up to multiple viewings. Again, that wisful, very tell thing. The concept is there's a city, effectively, more or less a castle. Yes. And it's ground. A stable city. A stable city in the sky, somewhere floating about in a cloud. And through various means, people try to find it. There's long been sought after. And there's a girl at the heart of the story who is key to that being possible. These old robots are really long arms. They're very similar to the iron giant that pops up as a film. They've got nothing to do with jibberly. They're really old, though, aren't they? It's falling into bits. Yeah. These ones. And you can see it's influenced the iron giant. But anyway, yeah, they're falling into bits, these kind of robotic entities on Arso Island. And I think it's just magical film. It's wonderful. It's superb animation. Great story. There's lots of quirky characters running about. Again, you're not quite sure what the remotives and agendas are, are or they're changing priorities. There's fun, there's humour. And there's girl at the heart of the story is a good protagonist. It's nice to see. Silver? Silver, I think. You're going to give me silver for house moving castle. I've got to give you silver castles in the sky, so I'm going to fit it. Yeah, it is. We've both got it. But spirit in the way isn't nailed on gold. I would have discontinued the podcast. From here on in. Yeah, I mean, that's just one. I think you said at the time, I'll give you the best animated film of all time. I think it probably is. I'd have to give that further consideration. But I think it's certainly, if not the best, it's one of the best of all time. It's one of the best films of the decade of its generation. It's definitely Studio Ghibli's best film. We both agree. Yeah. That's what other people did. It's nothing like it is. It's all these just so detailed, isn't it? The characters are just amazing. Yeah. And again, in typical way, it goes off in all sorts of tangents and you're you're not quite sure there's a guy that's trying to help, but he's a little bit spiky. He actually works for the granny-ish crone, who there's a typical signature of Ghibli, who sort of seems to be a witch you don't want to mess with. But then she's not just as simple as that either. And then the boy seems to be a bit more favorable, but he turns into it. And then you've got the dust sprite things, you know. Yeah, the little touches like that just mean that every single frame of it is a work of art. The talking character. Yeah, the talking animals like the frog. And you've got those three things, those kind of wobbling things that the witch has around it. And the gigantic baby, it's got no face who's representation of greed, he's a river monster that's been polluted or something, hasn't he? And he turns up and he seems to be the only character that seems to be perceiving things out of the everyone else. And so he sort of, it is tapping into the main character and kind of there's an interaction there. And he grows and grows and becomes seemingly large as a representation of greed. Again, there's a theme going on there. And just the level of detail, it stands up to multiple viewings. It's set at the giant magical bathhouse that's just through a magical walkway kind of. And I love the fact that they made this film box, told the story box off its smash. Everybody loves it. Stories told. If it had been Disney film, I'd try and make a sequel. There'd have been TV series spin-offs with the characters. And that just dilutes the power of it in MIT, you know, because you know that there'll be a sequel and a prequel. And then so-and-so character will get their own show, but that show will be just for kids. And then other characters will get a different show for adults or something. Exactly. No, no, just tell the story. And that's everything we need to know. And I remember you said there was an anecdote from the Princess Mononoke, when they were trying to make some cuts, Harvey Weinstein, Mae Rottenhill, was trying to get some cuts made. And they just sent a Japanese sword saying no cuts. Just love that. If you're going to not not compromise in their art, why should they? They don't need to. They don't need to. I'm making a fortune anyway. Keep the artwork levels high. Keep the integrity high, like Ghibli-Doo. That's what I say. But anyway, yeah, it's brilliant. And I mean, just the it sets the answer. And it's some wonderland. I'm pretty sure that Sam Miyazaki loves some wonderland, because there's that sense of going through a space into a magical world that's in it's in Spirited Away. It's in other films as well. It also kind of has echoes of the world that you were in before, yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. So wonderful stuff. And then nailed on Gold, to be honest with you, I was going to say actually, on the matter of music, Princess Mononoke, Howl's Moving Castle Spirited Away, the scores are brilliant in all three. Yeah. What are we thinking? Are we going to throw anything in there? That's true. At some point, we'll be doing the 80s and the 90s scores and we'll probably talk them in there. But yeah, it would be difficult to disagree. I think they're all fantastic. Is that one guy of his name? Joe? Joe? Joe? Is that sorry? He's it? Absolutely, I think. Yeah. Yeah. He does all of them. Yeah. And they're all absolutely perfect. Fit the visuals, fit the vibe. Are we throwing in Gold here straight away? Are we going to leave it? I think they're pretty good. Yeah. I think so. I think put them in now, because we did do that with this before, and we will make exceptions. So he's got three Gold Seagulls on Manjo there. Brilliant. They're all super. I think Monon, okay, he's probably, well, actually, I don't know, they're all pretty good. I was going to throw one out. They're all plenty brilliant. Right. Okay, Phil. We're on to our last segment. 60 scores. 60 scores. Now we picked five pretty variant list here again. I've got a number of honorable mentions as well. I think there's some very iconic scores on there. A lot. Yeah. Should we do the five first? Yeah. So you've gone for, no, sorry, I've gone for an absolute sweeping, swaggering classic score as epic as the film The Companies, which is Lawrence of Arabia, which has a number two, is it? Number two. It's an astonishing score. Morashari. Yeah. It's just brilliant. It's just a stick. It's got no one on Gold. I don't think that's it. Yeah. Coming in with Gold straight away. It's, yeah. It is just sensationally good. It just, it adds to the film, it adds to the magnitudes of the film, the grandiose nature, the majestic, kind of the sweeping scenes that just took. Yeah. It would be brilliant anyway. It's a David Lean film. He's a brilliant visualist, but without the music, it wouldn't be quite as good. No. And it's a lot. It's epic in every sense of the world. Yeah. Right. That's a great straightaway then. Brilliant. Right. On to the next subject. Here we go. Here we start touching on bonds with my number four from Russia with love. Great score all the way through, I thought. Yeah. I think so. One of the best. I think it's an absolute cracker. Yeah. I don't think I could go gold, but I think I'll definitely give it a silver. Yeah. Agreed. Let's go with that silver, I say as well. You've gone for an iconic one at number four, haven't you, Phil? Great escape. Yeah. Yeah. It's not just for England fans, you know? No, exactly. It's gold, isn't it? I think so. Yeah. It's great stuff. Elmer Bernstein at the top level. First rate score sweeps all the way through nicely. It's signature. It's one of the classic themes that we have, isn't it? Some of them, the theme's great and that's it. I think the score is good enough throughout as well to put it into gold status. And that theme is all good. It's hard not to ignore it. Everybody knows it. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a brilliant film as well. Yeah. Okay. Good. Well, we're doing all right here. But I've just realized I didn't talk about you on number five. One was a slightly different one. I've been for easy writing, which is more of a collection of songs. Yeah. And I kind of mentioned it more, and we're kind of saying, well, this is the way that the world was going at. This is right at the end of the 60s, and they were moving into playing popular music, should I say, rather than kind of classic scores? And I think it was a very, very influential piece and it had some cracking tunes on it, but you couldn't really call it a score. No, exactly. Yeah. I mean, it's a classic for what they're now called needle drops or found music. No such expression. It's just many years after this film, but it's not, it's not a score or a original set of songs. For example, the graduate is a load of songs, which we might talk about in a minute. But yeah, easy writer will leave out just in case people wondered why. So that was, that was your five Lawrence Arabia was five for me. From Russian with love was my four, yours was great escape. Then number three, I had a fistful of dollars, which controversy I didn't add. I didn't include the good, the bad and the ugly, which you had at number one. And then I had their both goals. Yeah, I mean, I think so. Yeah, I think we've not do them already. We've done, well, we've done the good, the bad and the ugly has already been included. Yeah. Under music when we talk about Western. So that's all. Yeah. The once it's got going there as well. Once upon a time, the West, I think was, and if it is, yeah, a fistful of dollars, which, which started all these signature music. Yes. That's got to be there as well. So good. Yeah. Yeah. For a few dollars more, I think he's kind of a bit more sort of just derivative of the other originals for it. Yeah. That's what I remember. So in case people are wondering about that. So, okay. So golds for a fistful of dollars and already golds for once upon a time in the West and the good, the bad and the ugly. And the only other one I had in my list, number three, was psycho, which I think is in there already as well. And there's also my number two. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. That's the gold. Yeah. Yeah. So we moved on to the final bit, which was our honorable mentions. Now, in this section, we had a load of absolute classics that could easily be in there. You could have had a list of a top 10 and not only five that we did pay. I listened to a lot of soundtracks when we were doing this one. It was a couple of years ago. So we've already talked, I've got the good about the ugly written down here. We've already talked about that. We've got some more bond to talk about. So I think we discussed from Russia with Lovell, obviously already, on Her Majesty's Secret Service and you only live twice with sort of disgust between us as being the other two that were noteworthy in terms of being really up up there as a good standard. The main thing that people remember on Her Majesty's Secret Service was obviously Bluey Armstrong's song, which is beautiful, which they also replayed in no time to die in one of its. I'm unaware if that song was written through the soundtrack or whether it was already. Yeah. I think it was. I think it was. I can't be 100% sure your stations, which kind of lead off of that same. I think it's a lot one of the last things you've recorded, wasn't it? Yeah. I think he was on the way out then. Yeah. But I'm not sure there's as much to it. I think one bond film is is enough, really. Yeah. So you only live to not leave as well? Yeah, I think so. They've got to mention me from Russia with love, you know. Yeah. No, that's far enough. Yeah. Okay. Right. So we'll leave the other ones from there. Then I think you did mention where he was there, but I listened to the Scott. It's kind of like, wasn't over-impressed with it. I think it's all right. It's quite good enough. Yeah. I fell in love to talk about some points. It's one of my favorites. I've watched it every year. So I have to call it Danny Boy. We need to do that at some point. Speaking of war films, we had, again, this is what there's an absolute calcare of a thing. C33 squadron. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, I think that's silver, isn't it? I get silver. It's- Yeah. Absolutely superb. We probably should have had it enough. Five. Yeah. Yeah. But I think, yeah, I think that's got to be in there. So we're talking gold on that one. It's iconic. The theme's great, but the whole story as well. And planet of the apes got to mention as well. That's great. It's kind of spooky and creepy and a little bit different. Really good score. Obviously they use the same sort of music in the later sequels as well. But I thought that's kind of just had some really good eerie elements. It really was an important part of the film as much as the iconography with those kind of weird crisscrossing. Yeah. Yeah. It's not a gold. Not a gold, no. It's at least a bronze. Yeah. I think probably- I'll tell you what, for now, should we have it as a bronze? Yeah. Sounds good. I would like to do Planet of the Apes as a subject, because there's enough films with the remakes as well. Yeah. What was the most recent one a couple of weeks ago? Yeah. I've not seen that yet. But we might end up doing that as a singular subject. One for the original ones. The first ones are amazing and the sequels were pretty dire. Yeah. Whereas with the more recent ones, they're all pretty much a standard seven out of 10 thing, every single one of them. Yeah. They're not classic and they're not rubbish. They don't get any better or much worse. They're all solid, you know? So we're thinking bronze for the planet. Yeah, it sounds good. Yeah. Okay. Great. We're moving swiftly on then. There's a few others we mentioned. Rosemary's baby, which is kind of- you mentioned that one. Interesting, because it's kind of a weirdy, refillment. It's horrible, isn't it? It's me. It gets under your skin. Unsettling, isn't it? It's just much like the film. Yeah. I think they're making it pretty comfortable. Well, sure. We'll feel about that. Yeah. But I think that's a bronze. Yeah. Happy to give a bronze to that because it is particularly distinctive, particularly strong parts of the story. And there's lots and lots of bits in it as well. It's not just two main melodies and things. There's a lot to it there. So I'm happy to give that a bronze as well. Henry Mancini, we come into next. There was breakfast at Tiffany's and Pink Panther. Pink Panther, yeah. I mentioned. I think breakfast at Tiffany's, it's not gold level for me. I think it's, you've got the classic Moon River, which was, I think, with the film. Audrey Hepburn sings a version of it as well as orchestrated versions. There's some other good old kind of jazzy moody things in there, but nothing to really stand out as such, possibly a bronze for me. But I don't know what you think or not. Yeah, bronze sounds fair. Okay, we'll do that with the Pink Panther. It kind of felt great. Yeah, it's because it's pretty similar in terms of jazzy. Just great. Some other good little informed bits as well, through the story. You reckon the silver? Oh, okay. Yeah, happy to go with that. Okay, cool. Silver it is. Right. I'd say that's, without seeing a list of his films, he was finding me. I'd say that's possibly Henry Mancini's finest hour. Yeah. Yeah. There might be something I'm completely forgetting about off the top of my head. A couple of cans in, but yeah. Yeah, fair enough. Then we've got a film, which again, I'm a little bit surprised neither of us included. I think I forgot to think about it. This next one, it's another absolute talking score with an amazing theme. It's the Magnificent Seven. It's one that's famous bits of music and film, and we didn't have it in our final side. Oh, that's mad, isn't it? With retrospect on thinking, "Oh, God, how did that happen?" It's got to be a silver, isn't it? Oh, I don't know. I think this is gold. I was doing the intro bit. I forgot on the main bit. I don't remember. No, that's... The tune's gone out of my head now. Well, you've sort of a big country again in a minute. Yeah, that's exactly it. But okay, we can go gold. It is bright. It's a lot like gold. I'm everyone I know this tune, apart from me at this exact moment in time. But it's brilliant. I think it's gold. We've got the Ipgress files. That's pretty cool soundtrack, I think. Yeah, I like those films. There's the sequels. Yeah. Harry Palmer. Great. Yeah, they're great. Sharp. It's iconic. I think the music is something I've immediately think about. I'd say it's bronze. Bronze, okay. All right. Because when you think of the film, you think, "Oh, oh, yeah." The music and Michael came the first time. Yeah. And his glasses. Yeah. Okay, all right. We'll go with that. I think it could be a silver though, to be honest. Did you hear us? Chris Mom? Okay. Do you mind if we're not? Let's go silver. Okay. I think it's pretty iconic. I mean, I can't voice good. I mean, that's a good important part of the story as well. A couple of major melodies in that one. Brilliant. Form the dialogue. Great. Yeah, I'd say that's a bronze. Bronze. Happy with that. Quite no more cover. It's the heavy metal band play for no more cover with the theme tune, under what they might have done. They're what I think is their best album, Angel Dust. It's a whole album of really weird songs, and it's got them just playing a completely straight, kind of version of the theme tune, one of the other tracks. Brilliant. And you've got the graduate, which we mentioned earlier. It's a long-based stuff that was written for the film, Simon. You know, Amis is well-being certain that you know all the songs, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hello, darkness, my old friends. Yeah. How do we not mention that? The time? I think we mentioned it in Dispatches afterwards. We've got to be done our fives and everything else. What do we think of that one? At least silver. Yeah. Shall we go silver? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Okay. We've got Z as well, which I don't think is quite, I'll leave that one out. Zulu, that is a cracking soundtrack. That's a really good score. A lot of Michael Caine coming up at the moment. You see, in every film in the 60s, I mean, we're realising how many good scores they were in the 60s. That's got to be a silver as well, isn't it? I think so. I think it's actually a cracker of a score. Cleopatra is a good solid score. I'll probably go with the bronze for that. Yeah, that sounds good. Spartacus probably the same. Yeah. I will see it. You've got a big fan of that music and that, won't you? As well, I think. That was another big solid, typical epic. Yeah. That thing is quite out with the other ones, but it's interesting. We can give that one a mister as well. Yeah. Yeah. I thought the misfits are a really good score as well. Nothing particularly iconic in it. That's the only thing. Yeah. Really good solid score. I don't know if we skip that one or give it a bronze. I don't know if you've seen the film recently or at all. I can't remember at the time of my hit. I feel it's a score. Yeah. I'll leave that for now. The apartment, I'll put the apartment down, but I can't really remember the music in the apartment. I've to admit, it's been a long time, since I've seen it. I watched it. Yeah, it's very good. What would you say? It's not stunning. I think bronze. Bronze. Okay. Bronze. In a gold film. Yeah. Okay. We've got the Fellini classics, the Dolce Vita and Eight and a Half, which have both got really frantic, busy, and by music, very much part of the stories, both cracks. It's silver, isn't it? It's silver, I think. Yeah. There's also Rocco and his brothers. That's a really good score as well. I don't think I know that one. We'll leave that one for now then because we need to buy that. Yeah. Jason and the Argonauts. No, that's... Yeah, that is it, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. I don't think it's quite there. It's similar to Sinbad one. I don't think we put that one in, did we? Great fun. Brilliantly fit to the material. It's not completely classic. Last night, let's see. And another classic of the '60s was Dr. Givardo, which we didn't mention. I think correspondence did and said, "Oh, that's a good one should have included." Yeah. It's a bit of a classic one, isn't it? Yeah. Bronze. Yeah, let's go for bronze then. We've got to include it, I think. Yeah, yeah. And there was actually a load of musicals we didn't talk about, so we're... We'll leave that for now. I mean, basically, if we didn't talk about the sound of music, West Side Story, Mary Poppins and My Fair Lady, and I'm thinking bloody hell. I've seen Mary Poppins and My Fair Lady, I haven't seen the other two. Yeah. So, we'll leave that. I remember all the songs from Mary Poppins off the top of my head from what to spoonful-ish sugar and... It's gold. It's, isn't it? I mean, of the Disney musicals, the Jungle Book was pretty good as well, wasn't it? Oh, is that '60s? I can't remember, I think it is. It might be, yeah. Oh, bolts. I haven't even thought about that one. We'll take that in a minute. But in terms of Mary Poppins... That had, like, the Bayon Assessities and all of that. I've got a soundtrack at home, yeah. Yeah. That's bloody love it. Oh, I'll have a look at that. We're talking, but Mary Poppins, the way you've just described it, sounds like a gold to me. I think it's a gold, yeah. Oh, good. I'm glad you said that. So, okay. The Jungle Book. Begrudgingly. The Jungle Book, 1967, yeah, just to confirm. So, here's another one. We didn't even... God, this is a chaos, isn't it? Yeah. So, okay. Mary Poppins' gold, Sound of Music and West Side Story you've not seen, so we're not talking about. Mary, if my fair lady, do you say you have seen? Yeah. What would you give that? It's good, isn't it? It's pretty good. Yeah. Silver. Silver. Is it Mary Poppins' standard? Well, I've got the baby ugly standard, yeah. Silver, silver for my fair lady. And finally, for this episode, Jungle Book, which I hadn't even thought about. I'd say it's a silver as well, to be honest. Yeah. It's got three or four brilliant songs, band of sessions. I want to be like you. And if one never forgets. Yeah. You've got the Beatles as crows. What more do you want? Something, yeah. Great film. Great soundtrack. Which is all saying silver? Yeah, I think. All right. Okay, then. Silver. Right. That wraps it up. Brilliant. I told you to take quite a while to go through this. Absolutely. Unbelievable selection of soundtracks, though, isn't it? I think when next time we do this, when we go for the '70s while I think it'd be much the same. Yeah. Yeah. There's more than we immediately will think of. So, we've forgotten some classics. That's how there were to go through. Incredible. Yeah. Fantastic. All right. Phil, I think that covers it all, doesn't it? It just leaves us to say what we're doing next. So, in a month or so, we will be doing Mr. Gene Hackman. Oh, yes, indeed. Mr. Gene Hackman, indeed. Yeah. Right in the middle of watching all these films at once. Brilliant. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, you've got the French connection at home. We're having the conversation at the moment, talking to me about what we're doing next. It's just be unforgiven, really, if we didn't mention a number of his films in this sentence. So, there's no way out. Is that your best shot, is it? Very good. I like it. Yeah. It's very good. Yeah. So, yeah, we'll do those next. So, it's Gene Hackman. That'll be up next. Yeah. Thank you for listening. As always, check us out on Facebook. I noticed you called it the Facebook on one of our back episode. That's a film tribute in itself, isn't it? Yeah. I think we should always call it that from now on. That's what they call it in a social network. That's brilliant. Yeah, that's great, isn't it? So, yes, look us up on the Facebook. The Facebook, yeah. And Twitter, Film Fives, Film Fives One, Film Fives Poison. I'm going to go to my Twitter in months. I've got for the only some of it, a bit lax in there. Yeah, fair enough. But yeah, and to give us your opinions on Gene Hackman, let us know, include them in the next episode. So, thank you for listening. Thank you for joining us. And thank you for joining me as well, Phil. Thank you. Excellent. See you next time. It's been a pleasure. Yeah, it has. It's been great. We've got a lot of gold and seagulls now, isn't we? Yeah. The list is building. We should publish all this somewhere at some. Yeah. Anyway, until next time, kart.
