Greetings. It's Mal. Call your banners because it's time to head back to Westeros for House of the Dragons Season 2. The Ringers Dragon Riders will soar alongside you each week with the Heron Hall-sized slate of conversations. The Dragon has three heads and on Sunday nights immediately after Hot D concludes, Chris Ryan, Joanna Robinson, and I will be with you for Talk the Thrones. Then on Mondays, two more shows away. Dan Latham, Charles Holmes, Steve Almond and Jomi Adeneron, aka The Midnight Boys, pew pew, will head to the Turny Grounds to share their reactions. And of course, Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald will sip the Arbor's finest vintage on the watch. Then on Tuesdays, Joanna and I will head to the Bowels of the Pleasure Den for our House of our Deep Dies. Then on Thursdays, Jo, Neil Miller, and Dave Gonzalez will gather the Ravens for trial by content. 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I didn't want anything to stop me from living my best life on my trip, so I was like, why not be brave and try Tampax? Before that, I really just thought tampons were for adults, and I definitely thought they'd be uncomfortable. Guess what y'all? They really aren't. It might take a few tries, but once it's in right, you shouldn't feel it, which is great. For a better way to period, just add Tampax. Hello and welcome to We're Obsessed, a podcast here on the Ringer Dish feed, where we are talking about all of the things that we and the internet were obsessed with watching, consuming, and memeing this week, which means we're of course talking about Justin Timberlake and his deeply glassy-eyed mugshot. We're talking about the Tonys. We're definitely talking about Bridgerton, and to do so, I am joined by my co-host, Chelsea Stark-Jones. Chelsea, how are you doing? Good, Jody. I'm doing great. This week, I am obsessed. I'm going to be so LA, and just I'm obsessed with my bone broth cleanse. I am currently doing a bone broth. Are you okay? Are you okay? Quick check-in, are you okay? I'm doing great. I really have Landon doing my my Tradwife duties. I have made bone broth from scratch, and I have loved every moment of this journey for myself. I got big mason jars. I have cheese cloths to really strain out the broth. I got a bigger crock pot, so I can make bigger batches. I am doing it, and it's actually kind of fun. I'm absolutely stunned by this information. I'm going to check in with you in four weeks and see how much you're using these big jars you got, and how the bone broth is going. My first day was yesterday. I'm going to do another day today, and if I get hungry, I'm going to snack on an apple or celery stick or something. This sounds like an eating disorder, but I promise it's not. Then tomorrow I'm going to reincorporate food, but I do want to do a bone broth, a glass of bone broth every morning. It's really good for your digestive tract, your gut health, skin, lots of collagen, and those bones of chickens. For the skin, hair, and yeah, I think it should be a routine. It's actually kind of fun, and it's cheaper to make it than it is to buy it, and a good box of bone broth is $10 for only two cups. To be able to get a rotisserie carcass, get the bone it. I have several things to say. The first is that if you are going to go full goop and then say the phrase rotisserie carcass to me, I actually need you to prep me before we go on there. This is wild, wild news to be receiving, especially as a peek behind the fourth wall for the listener, because we just did a little tech. We had a little tech run before we got on, and nothing frazzles me more than having to do tech. If it has to do with a laptop, a microphone, a recorder, my hands are shaking. It gives me great anxiety. I already came on a little geared up, and then you have informed me that you are consuming only bone broth. The other thing is that I actually thought about saying for my we're obsessed this week and decided against it that I'm obsessed with collagen, because I've also been trying to consume and understand multiple forms of collagen. I don't understand them, so instead I've just been getting what I can get in the store having nothing to do with a carcass. Like my collagen consumption has nothing to do with karkai. Is that the plural for carcass? Don't know, but I also have to say I also add chicken feet to the bone broth. So that is where a lot of the collagen comes from, and I made the mistake of Dustin seeing the chicken feet as it was in the crock-pot and it freaked him out. But no, it's really good for you, and it's really great. I have recorded my process. I am thinking about making a TikTok and posting it. If I do, so my bad habit is making TikToks and just saving them in my drafts and never sharing them. Hopefully, it will make it out of the draft folder and make it to the 4U page, but it's honestly been a lot of fun. I want to do this weekly. Chelsea, you've said several times now that it's been a lot of fun, and I can tell that you're saying it because you can tell that I don't believe you. Just a quick recap. What's so fun about it? Oh, it's just like the getting it together, the chopping of the vegetables. Maybe it's because it's new and then the straining of it. Honestly, I think it's the excitement of figuring out like cheating the system of I could do this fun, healthy thing for like half the price. And then I get the rotisserie chicken. I'm able to like have the chicken meat so we could have it for salads or meals throughout the week. So it's like two for one. And I think it's great. It's just so much fun. I'm eventually going, I'm going to calculate how much I spend on like DIY bone broth and then how much I would be spending if I actually bought it. And I know I'll be saving a lot of money. So like that is satisfying. That is satisfying. It's a real use the whole Buffalo situation operation you got going on over there in that kitchen. I too am, you know, I'm into to collagen in other ways right now. I also, you know, like the rest of the like our generation and variant of getting protein right now. There's something you can count on in this world. And it is that about every five years, I'm supposed to be getting a lot of protein. And then five years later, no, we actually freaked out about the protein thing. You don't need to get that much protein. But right now we're on a you need to be getting this much protein kick. And so a while back, I also heard probably from Gwyneth Paltrow that bone broth was a good source of quick protein. And what I did instead of boiling chicken feet was order powdered bone broth from the internet. And it's pretty delicious. You just heat it up. And you know, it's like soup. But there's absolutely no chance that I'm getting any nutritional content from it. It's just like, this can't be powdered down. And then helping my bones or my muscles via the protein. But just thinking that I'm doing it really helps. So I can only imagine the absolute morality kick that you are getting out of throwing those chicken feet into a crockpot and making your bone broth shall see. And then I like, I want to experiment with different flavors, like some lemongrass in there. I put some leeks in there this time. Maybe make it like, yeah, this is going to be really fun. Yeah, I mean, I imagine after a few weeks, the just flavor of bone isn't going to be giving you this adrenaline kick. Maybe women grass will. Yeah. Well, I will quote you back to me and say, I'm really happy for you, Chelsea. Great. Sounds like you're having a great time. And I can't wait to see how jacked you are next week after just a full week of bone broth. It's possible that our collagen consumption is going to be a little divisive. But I'm going to go ahead and get us started by saying that nothing has brought the pop culture world together more this week than the arrest of Justin Timberlake and the resulting mug shot, which has been a meme generator that just will not quit. It won't quit. We have been memeing this, the internet has been memeing this. And you know, I hate to make light of someone else's tragedy and driving a DWI is a horrible thing. We do not condone it. We do not like it. But it's really funny. I don't and the internet has really turned on Justin Timberlake since like the Janet Jackson documentary since the Spears documentary and he is just in his flop era. And he's even flopping harder. I don't remember what article it was in this week, but it basically someone attributed his heavy drinking to the Britney Spears book and another way in which this man is blaming Britney for his failures in life. But whatever, I have enjoyed all of the memes. I have enjoyed the like seeing him in handcuffs was chilling. And seeing him like that. So there's a there's a photographer that does photos of just like really up close celebrity portraits. And like that's what that mugshot was. It was so crisp. It was so clean. It looked like it was photoshopped. Like the lighting was superb. There must be a ring light in the Sag Harbor, Sag Harbor Police Department PD. Like that was unlike any mugs shot I've ever seen before. Yeah. So Justin Timberlake was arrested for driving well intoxicated in the Hamptons. Frankly, there's no good place to drive well intoxicated. But especially in the Hamptons, the roads are like tiny and winding. And there you just you shouldn't be doing it. He left dinner with friends and was pulled over in his 2025 BMW. You know how I know I'm not rich. I've never been rich and I never will be rich. I literally don't understand when people are driving cars from the next year from 2025 BMW. He took his future robot car out on the road and said, I'm going to drive this while intoxicated. He said he'd only had one martini. His eyes and the arresting police officers said otherwise. He was noted in the sort of original reports of this as being glassy eyed. And like you said, this mug shot absolutely fact checks that as a yes. It looks it is so high definition. You can see the ring light in his eyes. And yeah, like fully makes sense that in the Hamptons, they would, uh, they would really want to be hammered shot. I know that like Gen Z is back into having digital cameras. Like we're not just taking pictures on our phone anymore. We got so I think that the SAG Harbor Police Department also has a really high quality camera. Yeah. I have to say the Gen Z is using digital cameras. I don't know if I'm offended or flattered by their their adoption of our, um, of our struggle, like what we had to go through back in the day of like taking photos on a camera and then plugging it into said computer and downloading that like the whole process. Like I really hope they appreciate how we had to walk for them to run. But that's a sidebar. Um, it's not a sidebar because I have something else to say, which was that also, I've already talked about my problems with tech. And that's if I even make it to plugging it into the computer, if you lost your digital camera, there was no cloud photos. It was over. It was over. I'm like still haunted by after, I guess like my fall semester, a freshman year, you know, I'd just been clicky click clicking on that digital camera. I had the big SD card. So I wasn't plugging in. I was never plugging in. It's my fatal flaw. I will not update my tech. And you know, I had fall break on there. I was like, I don't like a homecoming representative. I had like pictures of my brother taking me out on the field. And I sure did leave that camera in a gas station. And I'll never have those memories except in my own head. Also, I don't know where any of the pictures from college that I actually saved or printed are anyways, but unlike myself, Justin Timberlake is documented on the internet forever with this mugshot. And it like the memes have gone so far beyond the mugshot. It's hilarious. What's the what's been your what's been, you know, and again, it is kind of tough to use a word like favorite when you are dealing with a DWI, but yeah, he did drive while under the influence. And so I kind of don't feel too bad about it. This is all his fault. I have really enjoyed the ones like the dancing ones of the like officer or officer saying like, please step out of the car and walk a straight line and cut to like Justin doing his weird dancing in that tan plaid shirt or like people also like mimicking like a JT dance sequence. Like those have probably been my favorite. I also like the officer. When can I drive again? And the officer's responses, it's going to be May, which we all are familiar with. So yeah, those have the videos particularly have been my favorite like watching his silly dance moves. I have been greatly impacted by a dialogue exchange that happened during this arrest. And to set to set the scene, the arresting officer in this case was apparently so young that he didn't even know who Justin Timberlake is, at least not by sight. Or by name, that's like a notable name. I have a friend whose last name is Timberlake and I'm like, how did you luck out like this? Like that is such a notable name. No one will ever forget it. And I guess to Justin Timberlake's credit, he did not go full Reese Witherspoon, someone who is, you know, completely socially recovered from from a pullover such as this, yeah, America's still sweetheart. She's got, you know, maybe Justin Timberlake, you two can one day have a very influential book club. But today is not that day. He didn't go full. But apparently per the recording, sort of under his breath said, this is going to ruin the tour. And the officer said, what tour? And he said, the world tour, which to this officer who doesn't know who he is just sounds like, you know, a random glassy eyed man being like, this is going to ruin the world tour, which people have now really taken on as like a kind of I saw a tweet that was like in quotes, like, this is going to ruin the tour. Every time my PTO doesn't get approved, it's just like, it's such a perfect thing to say for any minor inconvenience. Yeah, it's going to ruin the tour. And defense of the officer, like, I knew Justin was doing performances. I didn't know it was a world tour. I'm not sure that it is. That's that's one thing that hasn't come out of this. I mean, I know he had a performance like, like, big performances coming up. Oh, there are one officers of it. It knows a collective JT world tour. I definitely thought they were national. I mean, maybe he was just going to Toronto, going to perform in Spain. And this has absolutely ruined the world tour. This is just like the perfect kind of internet meme that like keeps on unfolding and unfolding. So like, the mug shot came out. The quotes about ruining the world tour came out. The picture of him sort of, I guess, scuffling out of a holding, like the drunk take in handcuffs. The handcuffs came out. And then a tweet came out. This is this is probably my favorite iteration, because it brings in media literacy. It brings in Twitter, which I will never call X. And I actually didn't see the tweet originally. I just saw a bunch of people you didn't. Were you fooled? Jody, what do you think? I'll see. I bet. I bet. You know what I think is that you were fooled until the moment I put on the outline that this. No, I did. I did see someone retweet it yesterday about media literacy and the importance of these check marks. And therefore, I was like, Oh, I guess I was wrong. However, I still buy the tweet. I think it makes me clear that this actually isn't media literacy. This is just literacy, because Popcrave is a very popular Twitter account that tweets out news, generally pop culture news. And it's actually pretty accurate. It's not a journalistic endeavor, exactly. But I think they're doing their fact checking. Sometimes they break things, which is always kind of crazy. It's like when TMZ breaks something and you're like, could it be true? It's TMZ. But actually, TMZ is generally accurate when they're breaking news. So is Popcrave. What's not accurate is the parody account, which is called poo crave, which is where Chelsea gets her news. Okay, I'm tweeted out Justin Timberlake allegedly had traces of Molly, Poppers, Truvada, and Coke in his bloodstream following a DWI arrest, which would suggest a real more than one martini type of party. And people really, really bought this for a little while, until it was exposed that it had in fact been who craves that had tweeted it out. Yeah, I still stand by, I think, at least there's, I feel like he was on, I mean, I don't know, because he denied taking a sobriety test. I read his lawyer claim that so there's no, I don't know if they know exactly what his blood alcohol levels were, or what I don't, I don't know. But I do believe maybe half of that tweet is true, not because it's poo crave, but just like the logistics of the situation. This wealthy man in his 2025 BMW, having a rich dinner with his rich friends in the Hamptons, it like, you know, our reality stars are high off Coke. Like, why wouldn't our pop stars be? Yeah, and you did say I was about to say Chelsea, there are four things listed here. I would love to know if you know what each one of them are, but I do believe that you accurately said half of these things might be true. It's not a fact given by poo crave, but it's a pretty educated guess, which I would say is what who crave excels in is sort of making something that seems just enough like it could be true to really. Okay, so then the full circle, there's one thing that's going to bring this story completely full circle and its pop culture cycle. This is the second to last thing that will bring it, which is that so many people are fooled by this poo crave tweet, then there's the then there's a session of being like, Oh, we've been fooled by poo crave again. Now, poo crave accounts suspended. They didn't get away with it this time. I still have hope that they can come back. But the final thing, I believe that brings this to a pop culture close is that club Shalame has wade in on the controversy. I thought you were going to say Britney Spears fans have spoken on behalf of Britney because they have been bumping sisters, streaming numbers up high in light of this, which I find to be so funny is like what other what better way to support Britney than to play her music and to do it when her nemesis is in peril. So I love it. And I like to just think that Britney is at home, twirling and twirling and twirling and just has no idea this is even happening. But of course, for me, club Shalame will always be the finish line. And she said, Timothy Shalame will never have a mugshot because he's a good boy. He's not a troublemaker. He doesn't post violence, nor is he a menace to society. That's why his good name helps deflect attention away from other people, except a huge uptick in headlines using his name because for club Shalame, it's always about Timothy Shalame. I was like, why did he get brought into this? Was someone saying something about Timothy that like she felt the need to to drag him into this? No, I mean, not particularly. No, his numbers are not up. But when you're a fan account, that's always about interesting. I mean, I'm curious to see how this affects the world tour, but I'm also curious to see how this affects his marriage, if at all, like him and Jessica Biel, who is gallivanting on set looks like a time, a period piece movie that she's in in New York. But like, I don't know, like JT is spiraling. I mean, a couple years ago, it was him on set holding hands with a co-star. Now he's fucking up getting DWIs in the Hamptons, like, stop embarrassing me. Please, please, please, don't embarrass me. Jessica Biel has good social credibility. You know, like the worst thing she's ever done is Mary Justin Timberlake. Like even, you know, she's kind of also like a woman celebrity that we reflect back on and good for her for getting out into some racy magazines after she got off the hell zone that is seventh heaven. Like I look back on Jessica Biel now and I'm like, you are one of our superstars. And she's just been kind of doing her thing. She's like filming. She's on set. But I did see that she recently got a drastic haircut. And if anything is indication that maybe things are a little tumultuous right now, it's a drastic haircut. Yeah. So we'll just have to keep our eye on that. You know, I will be personally happy with things ending at Club Chalamet weighing in and not like any marriages being ruined. But we're just going to have to see. Yeah, I feel like there's trouble of brewing and then Timberlake Biel household. But let's switch over to what's on line. Now, Jodi, you were really going to have to cue me in here because I read your note in the outline. And I was like, this is a different language to me. But the Tonys were this week. And I know that this was a huge week. As you put in the outline, I did not for annoying people. So can you please please let me know what you mean by that? Well, huge week for annoying people is just sort of a shorthand for like, this is a big week either for theater people or glee people wherever the two shall meet. And this Sunday was the Tonys. No, I will be honest, I was watching and preparing to watch House of the Dragon. However, I was deeply distracted because like a lot was going down on the Tonys as usual, you know, you get a bunch of theater nerds in a room and they're going to be accents. They're going to be handwaves. They're going to be absolutely rousing and weap inducing speeches. So that like, there was other stuff going on. Ariana DeBose was hosting for her third year in a row. And she's one of the stranger celebrities that we have. She is always using an accent. She's deeply talented. So last year, Ariana DeBose went viral for just kind of like a real goofy talk sing song that she's saying, Sasha, can you, how did, how did it go? It went. Angela Bassett did the thing. Viola Davis, Michael and King. Never forget. How can you forget? I just, I needed you to do it because I knew that you would not only remember, but remember it in the accent that the accent. Which I, I felt kind of conflicted about last year because she is really talented and this like kind of made a joke of her, but she is just so strange. And like, that's the thing about the Tonys is sometimes you're going to be watching like some classic Sondheim shit. And then sometimes you're going to be watching something totally bizarre, like Eddie Redmayne's performance from cabaret this year, extremely controversial as a non cabaret. Did you see any clips of this Chelsea of Eddie Redmayne? No, it's just this is literally a foreign language. Everything that you're saying. What were you doing on Sunday? Tell me what you were doing on Sunday. I was, I was, I was driving home from Berkeley. So I was on a long road trip, but I also don't think it would have crossed any of my internet pages. I, my Twitter was filled with House of the Dragon stuff that I was trying to avoid because I wasn't going to be able to watch until the next day. And then I did see, I did see that the guy from Jonathan Groff won something. But that's all I saw. So this is what we have to get into. Although right before you go to sleep tonight, I do want you and everyone listening to watch Eddie Redmayne's performance from cabaret and just try to see if you can sleep. Me, myself personally, I kind of liked it. I'm not like a cabaret head. So I didn't find it like offensive. I don't know. I didn't, I didn't exactly know how I was, I just, I thought it was weird. So I was kind of into it. What I was absolutely obsessed with was, as you mentioned, Jonathan Groff and Daniel Radcliffe, Harry Potter himself, both won Tonys for their performance in Marily We Roll Along. This is a huge deal for several reasons. Let's start with Marily We Roll Along, which is a sondheim musical that originally debuted on Broadway in 1981. It was a huge flop. It closed after 16 performances. Now 40 years later, it's been revived with these very popular and very talented actors. Lindsey Mendez is the other third of this story of Marily We Roll Along. It's about three friends over the course of 20 years of their lives. And it's, it's in reverse order. So you start with them in the present and then move throughout the past. So the play, the revival of Marily We Roll Along itself also won a Tony. So like 40 years later, this play as a huge success, it won a Tony. And in part, I do think that its popularity has been because of like the extreme chemistry between these three leads. And it's just clear from their publicity that they've truly fallen in love with each other. Like, watch the Vanity Fair videos, watch the CBS Sunday morning interviews. I am partially personally obsessed with it because I did see Jonathan Groff and Daniel Radcliffe in the play this past winter. When I was in town on official ringer business to see Ariana from Vanderpump Rules in Chicago, I also made a personal pitstop at Marily We Roll Along. And they were, I actually didn't see Lindsey Mendez in it. But they were so incredible. But I think the thing that's like made people just be very like galvanized by these wins is that Daniel Radcliffe and Jonathan Groff in completely different ways are like the nicest men in Hollywood. They're like, well, and it's it's so crazy for each one of them because Daniel Radcliffe is a child star. Like he was on screen and in publicity and raised in front of millions and millions of eyes and thrust into like this insane position to be Harry Potter in the movies after the wild success of the books. And he and also the other two stars of Harry Potter have like come out of that. Fine. Like seeming not just a British. I don't because I think there are lots of British child stars that like have done the, you know, general, but I don't know. There are also like, like maybe their families just whisk them back away of the UK after everything. And it's just like, you know, so there has been a lot written about how Chris Columbus, who was the director of the first several movies when they were really like children, children that he took a lot of like pains to make sure that the children that they were casting had good support systems at home. Like he worked very closely with them. He was very supportive. The onset, you know, it does seem like in this case, a lot of links were gone to to give them a healthy mindset. But Daniel Radcliffe in particular has gone on to have this like very strange career. Like he has not sought out stardom. He's frankly sought out to do very strange things. I mean, I remember when he was like still in the movies and he starred in Equus on the West End. And it was like this big deal because he was like partially nude and exposing his like recently muscled body, but he's just gone on to like continue this stage performance and and also like starring in weird things and also doing weird things. So like a fun part of him winning was that then there was this Twitter prompt of people saying like to share your favorite stories about Daniel Radcliffe. And they would be like, like what someone was like my favorite story about Daniel Radcliffe is how he just went on a podcast as a guest about the Bachelor and just let no one mentions that he's like one of the biggest stars in the world. He was just talking about the Bachelor and was extremely informed. And it's true. I listened to that podcast at the time. And he's just like, he's a pop culture consumer. When you see him on talk shows, he's like, he's really hyper. It's like it's so different than the Harry Potter performance. Is he like our age? Like I'm sure he's our age, but like, yeah, he's 34. He's he's so young. And I've known him personally for so long. It's crazy. I do just feel like this very personal connection to him. And I just really appreciate like what a nice person he seems like. And he's an incredible in this show. He's so good. And then Jonathan Groff kind of like opposite thing moved to New York, you know, when he was 19 or 20 to become a Broadway star. And it's just been kind of like rising and rising through the ranks. But he is one of our like biggest Broadway stars. And he hadn't won a Tony yet. So for him, this Tony is like when Leonardo DiCaprio finally won his Oscar. Oh, these are also very young people, but they've just been like in the game for so long. Yeah, it's not overnight success. No, not at all. And like he's been nominated two other times for like huge roles. He opened Spring Awakening and was nominated for that, which is notoriously when he became best friends with Liam Michelle, which is kind of the thing that makes it incredible that he is clearly such a kind and wonderful person that his best friendship with Liam Michelle notorious troublemaker will always be an enduring mystery. But like she is the best her friendship with him. Do you think she's a rehab diva like like no longer a big asshole or she just hides it in front of the right people? I think she has learned how to lay low. And I'm sure she has done some internal work, a lot of internal work, because over her dead body was she not going to get that second chance at Funny Girl. And that meant play a nice and she did it. If you would ever like to read about 6,000 words on that entire saga, there is a piece by myself on the ringer.com about Liam Michelle landing the Funny Girl gig. But I was just so excited for Jonathan Groff and his acceptance speech talking about growing up in Pennsylvania and thinking his family and talking about coming out at the age of 23 was just so, so lovely. And of course, he was not only weeping during his speech, he was also weeping during Daniel Radcliffe's speech because I don't know if you know this about Jonathan Groff, but he's known for being just emitting dampness from his body, which is to say that he sweats a lot when he performs, he spits a lot when he performs, and he cries a lot. I saw the spitting in Hamilton, the Disney pletler, there was lots of spitting, there was lots of sweating. I thought that was a part of the character of the king, like I thought maybe the king just spit a lot, but apparently, yeah, okay, cool, it's personality trait. I personally like Jonathan Groff in Mindhunter, and it's been really frustrating. It's still something I think about on a my regular basis of why and how Netflix can cancel that show when it was so fucking good. And I just love like serial killer's scripted story, like detective work. What more do you want? Well, if it makes you feel any better, the show hasn't been canceled. It's just like, you know, David has a lot of other stuff going on. Real houses in Miami sitting on the shelf. Okay, so we'll get it in like five or six years. And I like to think that we could have a fresh, fresh batch of serial killers and a fresh Jonathan Groff performance. It's so wild that I'm so frankly relieved that you've watched Mindhunter and that you love it. I love that show. It's so good. And it's like, it's so crazy that that's him, like that this like Broadway star voice of a generation like Christoph from Frozen is also Mindhunter. It's like that's his character's name in the show, like Fleabash. Jonathan Groff is Mindhunter. Yeah, so this was really took up absolutely all of my Sunday. And it would have taken up the rest of my week mentally as well, if Justin Timberlake hadn't been arrested and pretty much taken over the rest of the week. Oh my gosh, I know it's been crazy how much like the JT News has lived online all week. What this happened on Monday night, Monday morning, something like that. And it's still like I'm still getting names about it. It's crazy. This episode is brought to you by Peloton. 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I'm getting so much TikTok, so much content about the next thing that we're going to talk about. And it's what we are watching. And Jody, it's like a bittersweet thing because I felt like the season kind of ended very rushed and abruptly, and then just knowing the news that we're not going to get another season of Bridgerton for a full two years is also very frustrating. So it was really hard to sit through the final two episodes, seven and eight, knowing that I'm not going to be in this world for another two years. I haven't been thinking about it. I've been mentally blocking it out. You're a glass half full kind of girl. I'm an absolutely like ignore. I'm weaponizing my own ignorance. I am pretending like reality doesn't exist, and just trying to enjoy these last episodes, episode seven and eight of the pollen season of Bridgerton. And I actually did such a good job. I was so delusional while watching these last two episodes that I had a really great time. It's like I know in my mind that there were better episodes, but I cried a lot during these episodes. And you know, that's a barometer for me. There were so many declarations of blood. It's a low barometer, Jody. You cry a lot. I cry a lot, but there's still a scale. It's really visible on my face on how much I'm crying. So I think I, you know, I cried a little bit at the original love declarations in episode four. And then things got so tumultuous. And they remained tumultuous. But this, I mean, this season was just kind of hilarious. Like, it was really, you know, I feel like we've been skirting around it. Colin, as the Bridgerton lead, I don't think is as compelling as Daphne or Anthony were in seasons one and two. And that's okay for me because Penelope is so compelling. And I think that like season three just really is Penelope's story that the love of her life, Colin Bridgerton happens to be a part of. But it's ultimately like about so much more than her love story. It's about like her story of growth. It's very sweetly at times about like her story of like with her mother and fitting in with her family and like being known and knowing someone else. And that really works in the Colin storyline, I think too, of like feeling seen is so important to falling in love. And that's like, that's a story that I do think that the season told really well. But then when you boil that down, it's very much about just like a very simple man coming to terms with what it's like to be in love with a woman who is like deeply more powerful than him, deeply more talented than him. Like deeply like she is so much. She's a powerhouse. And he is, you know, like the third child he is. He is kin and he does such a good job at being Bridgerton Ken. Yeah, you know, I I really enjoyed Penelope being the main like protagonist of the season and the Bridgerton family kind of taking more of a backseat and like their their story lines and stuff like that being the B plot of of it. And it really focusing on my girl Pen. But this episode episode seven and I also say like I too enjoyed watching seven and eight. And it wasn't until I saw a Tiktok as someone like destroying the feathering tin ball in episode eight when Penelope like announces that she is Lady Whistledown that I was like, Oh, I guess that wasn't as powerful the moment as I thought it was. I guess that was deeply flawed in like very many ways of character development and stuff like that. But I liked it when I watched it. And now I feel a little silly. I think it depends like I think that you as an audience member, you meet Bridgerton where you are, you know, so like if you were in a frame of mind where you want like to to really understand something deeply and to be like this all makes sense on a logical level. And people aren't wearing acrylic nails in like Regent Sierra London, then this might not be the season for you. But if you want to like enjoy Nicola Coughlin looking absolutely incredible. There's a shot before her wedding where she's in her like wedding undergarments, like a corset and she's just sitting there and the sun is shining on her and where it's like for me, the season is almost worth it just for that. But I will say I did see that Tiktok. And even in that moment, we're talking about in the season finale episode and episode eight, you know, it all kind of it's I guess it also depends on how invested you've been in the exposure of Lady Whistledown because like I do feel like that story has become less and less important. Like the queen is less invested in it. She's like offering prizes, but she's not really that into it. It's all just become like this allegory for power, you know, that Penelope was able to gain power that she never felt in her family that she doesn't have in this society as a woman, but that she has in this anonymous role as Lady Whistledown. She's able to change the course of society. She's able to use her skills and her powers of observation to create and to make people listen to her. And she's also I think a millionaire like what would in two days amount of money be a millionaire from publishing, you know, a notoriously dying industry. It's pretty incredible stuff. And so for all of that to kind of come down to a speech, which I did think was a rousing speech. It was moving. It was very moving. And Penelope's smart. And she is actually manipulative, you know, in the way that like a good writer or comedian needs to be. You need to understand how people are feeling in the moment that you are communicating to them. And you need to anticipate how they're about to feel in order to meet them on their level. So she knows she's in trouble. She knows she's about to get kicked out of this ton. And she goes out there and she addresses all these people. And she says, I know you've felt not powerful at times in your life. And I'm sorry that I called you all petty ass bitches. But frankly, you were being that. And I was looking for power. I was insecure. I was having this personal journey while I was becoming Lady Whistledown. And I just love the moment when then she like turns to the queen, who she's also manipulating and set, you know, kind of like says, and I would have never exposed myself like this. If it hadn't been for the queen chasing me down and cornering me and catching me. And then I think like the most sort of throw away part of the story line that that TikTok addresses is that then the queen's like, yeah, we're good here. Yeah. I think that's when I was like, oh, yeah, like no one's angry with her. That's strange. Or she could just be in society, whereas Kressida was totally like scarlet letter. It was weird. But in the moment, as I was watching it, I did not pick up on that. But what like hearing someone else's like breakdown of it, I was like, Oh, I guess that is a little bit strange. But I mean, like, honestly, I'm happy with the ending. I'm happy that she gets to maintain being Lady Whistledown. If she so chooses to be that Colin came around and supports her. And, you know, we have a little surprise at the end. So let's let's go back. Let's go back to episode seven to when Colin was not as supportive. And he very much said that he will never forgive her for being Lady Whistledown and is very angry. However, I thought this was also another mild reaction. I was expecting there to be conversations about calling the wedding off that he would not want to marry her, that he would or if they were to get married, he would treat her like shit. Like, I don't know. I was expecting like a little bit of a darker turn here, but it was more like, I'm just going to sleep on the couch. Right. Well, I do think and like Colin somehow like kind of won me over in these last two episodes because he really just proves himself to be like a total simp for Penelope. And that's what I want for her. And that's what I want from him is like, the best thing about Colin is how much he loves Penelope. And it took him a what it took him a long time to realize it. He said a lot of offensive things within earshot of her before he got there. But once he like understands that he loves her, that he's probably loved her all along, he loves her so much. Like, he's still trying really hard to be a brat. Like he's trying to be annoying, but he can't help it. He he does a lot of like, like when he discovers her and her lady whistle down hood at the publisher, he's like, what are you doing here? No, don't tell me. I'm gonna be like, he does a lot of like, just asking her questions and then quickly correcting himself, which is pretty annoying. But I mean, he also mentions that like, they've already had sex and this is kind of a pattern for him as once he's, you know, defiled a woman, he will marry her. But I think he really loves her. I just thought I did find myself thinking in these episodes that like, while they're Bridger-tonified, there's a lot of actual relationship type stuff happening here. Like, he's sleeping on the couch, but he's still like sitting there moping waiting for her to come out before he's like, now I'm leaving because I'm mad, but I still love you and I think you're beautiful. Yeah, it was, it was definitely, yeah, he had a lot of internal conflict there. And he also was upset with his sister for not sharing it with him sooner. And so it was a whole thing. But the drooling lady whistle down magazines newsletters come out and we have Cressidus, which is very pointed against the Bridger-tins. And then we have Penelope's, which is the real version, which she uses that as a way to verify that Cressidus is a fake by pointing out very specific moments and things about people in the ton. But also you could clearly tell that Cressidus is a fake because she can't write for shit, even with her mom helping her. I would just like to say though that while it was rude, Cressidus was lightly spitting facts by being like, the Bridger-tins seem so perfect and their skin is so clear and their cheekbones are so high, but why are all these marriages getting rushed? It's because they fucking, they literally are all, you know, doing the Regency era version of fucking, which is kissing in a garden before marriage. So they have to rush their weddings, like except for Francesca. They are kind of scandalous. They are scandalous, but you know, I love it. I'm not mad at it, but of course, I love scandal. Speaking of, okay, the Benedict of it all does not interest me. Like he's, maybe it's like, I guess how it is with any other Bridgerton that's like their pre-star season, like, Collin didn't interest me in previous seasons. Anthony didn't interest me in season one. Like, Benedict does not interest me. And I just, this whole subplot of him and his threesome, like, I know you and producer Sasha were talking about it before. I was like, okay. First of all, it's "Thruple Season." And, you know, I do tip my hat to Bridgerton for anticipating that challengers would be coming out and making threesomes and threples a really hot topic right now. I am interested in Benedict. And I liked the setup where he says to, okay, okay, I'm distracting myself. I was going to say, I like the setup where he says to Eloise, like, I feel like the next thing that happens to me is going to be the most important thing that happens to me. And I was like, oh, okay, season four is Benedict. I like that setup. I like anticipating it. I like the actor. I find him charming and capable. I like trust that the Benedict season will be in good hands. I was starting to distract myself because I have now had this confirmed by several people. I've always felt it and didn't want to say it out loud. But Benedict and Eloise have too much chemistry. I'm always like, are you guys about to kiss? They are absolutely electric when they're on screen together. And it's just like a little bit uncomfortable. They're both I mean, I feel like the actors kind of have chemistry with everyone. So then when they are together, it always feels like they're about to kiss. But I think that is one twist too far for Bridgerton. Okay, okay. Okay. So I'm interested in Benedict as a character. I'm interested in his season, but it's just very evident that they're always biting time because the thing about like setting up the characters for their eventual starring season is that you're always setting them up with someone that you know is not their forever person. I almost feel like they've done that most successfully with Francesca, who, you know, we know from people who have read the books or from being book readers that like this, you know, Lord Kilmartin is not her forever person, more on that later. But like it was a sweet story. I don't know, you know, like I just, I felt like it was a pretty compelling story with Benedict it is like they're just biting their time. Yeah, it's hard for me to like really lean into him, but he has his threesome. But the part that I am really interested in, and again, I don't think this was in Queen Charlotte, but the Lady Danbury, Lady Bridgerton, Lady Danbury, fucking Lady Bridgerton's dad of it all, like, who went where and why? Like, we got a lot, we got to watch Queen Charlotte. I mean, yeah, you know, obviously I did a little research after those couple of sentences and yeah, I think Lady Danbury has fought Lady Bridgerton's dad. And Lady Bridgerton may be the regency era, maybe the regency version of fucking kissing at a garden. But what's the age difference there? Yeah, she almost her stepmom. Is that what Marcus, her brother, messed up for her by taddling on her? So then she had to marry someone awful. I don't know, I was relieved that she talked about a quick tying of a bow. Like, she has a parent, Lady Danbury has apparently held this against her handsome brother since he was 10 years old for like 40 years. And then he's like, I'm so sorry, I also hated our dad. And actually, sometimes that is all it takes. And just be like, yes, I suffered the same childhood trauma in a different but similar way. Let's heal these wounds and be friends so that he can court my best friend. I just, I like him and Violet together. I like him and Lady Bridgerton together too. But all of this was so confusing and just weird. And like really, I was like, okay, yeah, I have to watch Queen Charlotte. Don't know if I like, I'm not into the Queen. So I'm like, I don't want to watch her origin story. But from everything I've heard Queen Charlotte's really good. Yeah, I know. I'm just kicking and screaming to sit in front of my television for, you know, you hate that. You hate watching TV. I hate feeling. I'm kidding. You love watching TV, but I hate feeling like, like, I'm told to or like, like, I have to, like, I want to get there on my own time. So in like five years, I'll watch Queen Charlotte and I'll be like, why did I do this sooner? That's what's happened. Same thing with Vanderpump Rules, same thing with Southern Charms, same thing with Housewives of Potomac. It really took me all to get there. What a person you live in, Chelsea. Yeah, yeah, I know. That is what it is. So then before the wedding, we get this big fight with Colin and Penelope, where he is just, you know, confronting her for all the things that she has written about him and her family. And, you know, she's like, I stand by what I said. I said, what I said. And that's it. You know, she was not backing down. She was like, yeah, I said, you're annoying because you were being annoying. You were not acting like yourself. I did not appreciate it. And someone and it needed to be said, it needed to be told. And you know, the only way you stopped being annoying was by getting called out in public. That which really plays into Penelope's, like, later speech where she talks about, like, the importance of gossip. I feel that they should have given like a small shout out to the podcast, Normal Gossip, which talks about this every week. But like, you know, talking about sort of like the importance of gossip. And she's kind of like, yeah, I publicly shamed you. So you got yourself in line. And that was something that needed to happen. There are things that Penelope should apologize for that she has done, I think, mainly to Marina, her cousin. But this is not one of them. Colin was being annoying and he needed to stop being annoying so that he could fall in love with his one true love, Penelope. And it all happened. But so many arguments in these last two episodes are just solved with Penelope, like screaming, I love you. Yeah. And being like, so upset. And she's like, I love you, Colin. And honestly, that's pretty realistic. He's like, yeah, okay, I keep forgetting. But you're right. We love each other. Let's get past this. We love each other. Let's get past this. We get to the wedding. And oh my gosh, was this wedding not giving you love as blind vibes? I was not like what were you feeling? Oh my God. I was like, the final episode of love is blind every season where it's like, they cover the altar, you get all the cutaways of like, is he gonna say yes? Is she gonna say I do? Like, as I was watching it, I was like, I feel like this is literally like love is blind. Netflix related. I was getting all the cutaways. I was like paying attention to how he was looking at her. I was like, okay, he's for sure gonna say yes. But then maybe she's gonna say no, and she's gonna want to be late with so like, I was watching it. Like, that's how I watched the wedding. I didn't get the love as blind vibes. I do see what you're saying. And it brings about one of my, one of my favorite moments of their love story. And I think just kind of indicative of what the season does well, which is like really established them as friends who, you know, became romantic lovers. It's like, he is the, they are the only people who can reassure each other. And that's a challenge when the person you need to be reassured by is the person that you're angry at. So like, when they're in that moment of he first sees her, he's like struck by her beauty. She first sees him. She scared. Like, is he gonna go through with this? And he just gives her like, he can't help but smile. And he gives her a little nod. And then she gives him a little nod. And it's like, okay, no matter what, we're in this. And I do feel like the show has established their history in a way to like really understand the way that they are that person. For one another, even when they're very angry, they feel safe with one another. And that's sweet. Yeah, it's sweet. The nod gave me clay and AD vibes. Like, I like legit was like, he is going to like say no to her, in front of all these people. I was really yeah, if Colin were taken out of this era and put in the modern era, then he would have the absolute goal that. What was that guys? What was AD's guy? Oh, Clay, he would have the absolute goal that Clay had to be a fuck boy. That's the thing is like, if Colin lived in a different era, he would not have been able to get over this so quickly because no, he would have, once he'd been exposed to society as being a fake, he would have hopped right on Bumble and gone and been a fake over there or gone on a reality show or what have you. But his options are a little more limited. So he actually had to face reality and say, oops, I love this woman. And I should commit to her. Yes. And I should commit to her and that he does. And the wedding looks beautiful. It looks gorgeous. The families are coming together, Lady Featherington, Lady Bridgerton. We're all having a really beautiful Copacetic time. And then the queen decides to show up and ruin everything. And I'm sorry, like, fuck this queen. Like, you cannot be to someone's wedding and interrupt it in that way and just like ruin the vibes. Like, literally, Colin and Penelope were in such a good space. They were so happy with one another. Like, oh, my gosh, we're married. And then the queen comes over here with her weird hair and has to say, like, I know it's the Bridgerton's. I know it's one of you that is Lady Whistledown, blah, blah, and then just totally ruin it for Penelope and Colin. And they can't constimate their marriage, even though they've already done that. And he sleeps on the couch. I'm sorry, it's a queen. I don't like her. She's going to sin. You don't ruin someone's wedding day. This is a season about power and how you wield it. And the queen learns a little lesson later from Penelope to about how are we wielding our power and what lessons are we learning? And she has also not been wielding her power as responsibly as she could be. She's been absolutely ruining wedding breakfast. I like how they had a wedding breakfast and then a wedding reception. That's a move. That is like starting to be a trend nowadays is like people doing a brunch reception instead of a like dinner reception. I think it's more cost-efficient. I don't know. It definitely is. But I like both. I want brunch and a party and a little nap in between. Yes, yes. So that episode ends with that. And then in episode eight, we still have Cressida that is set to have to leave the ton and be with her aunt. And she goes to all these printing shops and she finds out that the lady whistled down is a redhead, which gets her wheels to turn in. And in episode eight, she confronts Penelope and decides to blackmail her. She says, "The queen is offering me 5,000 pounds to be lady whistled down. You have to double it." And Penelope's freaking out. She has to go tell her husband. She doesn't want to keep me more secrets from her. He thinks the best way to handle this is for him to do it, which, come on, no, sir. He tries to convince Cressida, like, let's fix this. Let's find another way. X, Y, and Z. To that, she says, "Now you owe me an additional 5,000 pounds on top of the original 5,000 that I asked for." I think we're at 20,000 now. The queen said 5,000. She said double it to Penelope. Then Colin, in his most annoying act yet, goes and makes everything the fact it's Penelope season. But Colin is the one who has to do the most growth. It really is a season about Colin learning how to listen to someone who is smarter than him. And it reminded me of this thing that my boyfriend says that I think his mom said to him of how to, when someone comes to you with a problem or is complaining about something, you say, "Do you want to be helped, heard, or hugged?" And this man needs to stop helping. It is his instinct and it's never the right one because he always makes it worse. Yeah, he wasn't very charming in that encounter whatsoever. No, he needs to listen to his wife. He's witty wife. Yes. His smart wife. Yes. His smart rich wife, she's like, "I'll pay the woman. I'm rich, bitch. I will pay the woman." And he says, "No, we are not paying her." And then when he comes back in and he says, "Well, I have failed, and now the price is double." And she's like, "Oh, I'm not that rich. You're in here." So ultimately, Penelope, her solution here is to reveal herself and to just come forth. We see her writing letters. It looks like she writes one to the queen. She writes Lady Bridgerton seems to get a letter from Penelope that basically is exposing herself as Lady Whistledown. And we get to the final party of the season, which is hosted by the Featherington Sisters, which they're super excited about. It looks really cute and chic and fun. And really all star performance by these sisters in this season. Yeah, I like the Featherington's. And I really also shout out to Penelope and Lady Featherington's mother-daughter character arc. It was really fun to see them grow together throughout this entire season. So I really enjoyed that. But so everyone's having a grand old time at this ball. And then the stuffy queen shows up. And Penelope immediately gives her big, inspiring speech in which you mentioned earlier. And then the queen's just like, "All right, cool." It was. I loved Penelope's speech. I love the reactions that we got from people. But I did find it weird that she gave this big speech. And not even calling like came up to her afterwards and gave her a hug. I was like, "That's what you had me" or whatever. I was like, I think I was not really thinking about like, "Oh, we've wrapped this up tightly." And they do it. I liked it. And I liked the moment where her sister has been set up about wanting these bugs and talking about how she wants bugs at this party. And everyone's like, "What are you talking about, girl?" And in fact, it's butterflies. And so in an act of, you know, sisterly benevolence, Penelope's standing out there by herself. She's just made her declaration. The queen has said, "You're fine for now." She's walked away. And then Penelope's just out there by herself kind of standing around awkwardly. So then the sister says, "Varly," which is their maid, "release the bugs." And it's funny. And it's a nice moment for the sister. But if your husband is not coming over to show his public support of you in this moment after you have just outed yourself as the anonymous town gossip, that is means for an annulment. I don't know if it's like means that a priest in the town would approve of. But I was like, and that was kind of a, yeah, kind of like, we're just doing this for the moment kind of thing that didn't feel true to the character development that we have established that like Colin does support her. But he does eventually come over. He takes this time. Maybe he takes this sweet, sweet time. And maybe he is plotting his own speech. But I did like his final, obviously I cried, declaration of love, where he says, you know, I've spent all of this time trying to separate you and Lady Whistledown. But I went back and I read your letters that you sent to me while I was traveling. And I realized that you are her. There's no separating you. You're brilliant. You're powerful. You're perfect. And I can't believe that you love me. And that's the right attitude, my guy. You better never, you better never be able to believe it because you have outshot your coverage here. Yeah. Now I was very happy with how things ended. And I want to tie up some of the storylines before, because we haven't gotten to Francesca and Lord Kilmartin yet, which is something I do want to discuss. But so yes, Penelope and Colin live seemingly happy ever after they all the Featherington girls have children. Penelope is the only one that has a boy. Cressida does get shipped off to be with her aunt, wherever that is. And it does suck. It does suck. Do you think she's going to come back? I mean, I hope so. Like maybe because I have been seeing her on TikTok and I feel like I like her personality off camera. I would like for her to continue in the Bridgerton gang. But it's just kind of like a tough ending for what is ultimately sort of a fairy tale to be like all women are disenfranchised. And some of them, if they're Bridgerton adjacent, get to have happy endings. And some of them still have to go to Wales to live with their stuffy aunt. Maybe if her dad dies, like he seems to be the big love for her dad to die. Yeah, he seems to be the big, big, you know, gatekeeper there. But yes, he does. And then we transition from Julie Andrew's voice to Nicola Coughlin's voice from Lady Whistledown, which I kind of liked. I would like if we continue on with with Nicola's voice. No, it's not Nicola's voice. And I did think it would be I am on the record as being like, I don't know, you know, the I actually, I liked her big declarative speech. I thought it worked the finally the final Lady Whistledown letter. I know she's really happy. I know she just had a baby. And you know, I'm a writer myself sometimes being in conflict, like brings out a better voice. But this last letter was pretty uninspiring. It was just kind of like, and it didn't have any of the normal whistle down wit and or bite. And a lot of what gives those words, like makes those words seeing if the wit isn't there is Julie Andrew's voice. And I'm not saying that like Nicola Coughlin couldn't do that. But I'm not looking for like a nice Lady Whistledown. You can be like witty and biting without like punching down. So I'm hopeful for that in future Whistledown narrations, no matter how they go is that like, or I guess Penelope, I mean, I don't exactly know where we stand with who's the narrator of the ton. No, it's Penelope, I guess. Yeah, I look forward to seeing what Penelope could do. I have faith in her to give us some biting commentary with her via work. But before we wrap our Bridgerton coveridge for season three. So Lady Kilmer or Lord Kilmer, excuse me, and Francesca, they are set to go live at a remote Scottish castle, which is where his family is from his family home. She's really excited to be out in the countryside. And as they are saying, like, not necessarily they're go buys, but like their plans, we always has asked if she can come because she's trying to see the world. Yes, Eloise is also like trying to tag along, get out of the ton. But we meet Kilmartin's cousin Makayla. And in this meeting, we get a very longing, like, look of between Makayla and Francesca that does kind of spark like romance vibes. And I did also notice there was a kiss shared between Lord Kilmartin and Francesca in an earlier episode where she kind of looked disappointed and inspired. Yeah, yeah. And so I will be curious as to how this plays out. Do we know season four, is it Francesca or Benedict? Do we know? We don't know, but I would like for us to put our stakes in the ground for guessing right now. And my guess is Benedict is going to be the main story of season four. And we're going to keep weaving through this developing Francesca plot. So Francesca would be the B plot, the B plot. I mean, I would prefer her. I'm more intrigued by Francesca and Lord Kilmartin's story. Again, like I said at the beginning, Benedict doesn't really do it for me, but it could literally be because I feel like they set up every protagonist character in the previous season to be kind of boring and lame. So maybe that's why. But I'm more hooked on what's going to happen with Francesca and Lord Kilmartin, those quiet little lovers. But who knows? And Michaela, the woman is just falling in love with at first sight. I am certainly intrigued by that story. And I really like the touch of that she's been talking with her mom for Francesca's been talking with Lady Bridgerton about the different kinds of love. And that Lady Bridgerton has come to understand that not all love is what she experienced with her husband, where she says that when she met him, she could barely even speak his name. And then when Francesca meets Michaela, she can barely say her name, which I did think what I don't know. I just don't know how this is all going to play out. Yeah, I'm curious. It's going to be it's going to be fun. Can't wait for another two years to pass before we get it. But here we are. Oh, what are we going to be doing in two years? I don't know, Jody, but like that that's the thing about these streaming services. Like they gave us so little we have to wait so long, like get it together, people get it together. But let's go ahead and just wrap it up with what we are currently obsessed with. So Jody, I don't know if you if this crossed your internet feed yesterday or last night, but Kendrick Lamar hosted a concert at the forum called the pop out Ken and Friends, which was basically like a full on. Yeah, concert. If you watched and secure someone tweeted, this is the block party that Issa was trying to throw. And it was it was a lot of great entertainers that are Los Angeles based and it was a big party. And it was streaming on Amazon Prime, which was amazing. And I decided, you know what? Let me flip this on. I have nothing else to do. And when I tell you, I was dancing in my living room by myself the entire time. It's like, Oh, I walk Kobe and like, no, Kobe did not get walked until a 30. It was so much fun. It was like Kendrick Lamar is my favorite rapper alive, even potentially ever. I love him. I grew up with him when he when I was in college, he performed at my school when he was doing like the college circuits. I went to see him open for Kanye West during the Jesus tour. And I recently took my brother to see him for my brother's first concert a year and a half ago for the Kendrick Lamar in the Big Steppers tour. I was a guest. And I loved the internet fodder about it. Like it's he was so LA. There was so many great moments to it. And of course, him rapping, not like us, not once, not two times, not three times, not four times, but five times. Like I, I went, I died and went to heaven. I was so happy yesterday. And it carried on into today. And as soon as we're done recording, and as soon as I get out of my last meeting, like I will be online again, watching all the clips, looking at all the things. It, it was, it was, it was amazing. It was so LA. It was really great for the culture, a lot for hip hop culture, for black culture, for LA culture, for it was, I could not be happier. And of all things for it to happen on Juneteenth was also just, you know, a cherry on top. It was amazing. It was a great, it was a great Wednesday. Yeah. So we were off yesterday. I took myself to the pool, you know, read a New Yorker article about a scammer for like an hour and a half, came back. I just, I completely missed this. And then this morning got online and was like, and just felt like I'd missed a party. Like I'd totally missed going to something. So like if some, let's say hypothetically someone missed it, and we're just trying to kind of trying to like click in, like see a clip. What was your favorite part? Like what's the dial in? So performance. So he brought out a gosh, it just all depends on who, what part of Kendrick Lamar you really tapped into. He brought out Black hippie. So that was like his original like crew when he first came about. They did collard greens. They did a few other songs that I just loved. I would say, he started with the euphoria song, which was the Drake, one of the Drake songs. The one that says, "I hate the way that you walk the way that you talk. I hate the way that you dress." That was amazing. He brought out Dr. Dre. And I think from that point on is like, I mean, that's when they did, Dr. Dre came out, they did California Love, they did Forgot About Dre, and then Dre is about to walk off stage. And in that moment, he comes back and Kendrick's like, I think you have one more thing to say, Dre. And I'm recording myself. I did post this to my Instagram stories. It's still up. And I was like, what on earth could Dr. Dre be saying in this moment? And I was sipping my liqueur because again, I'm on a bone broth, so I can't drink my alcohol. And Dre does the, I see dead people. And like, literally, I wasn't there. I lived 45 minutes away from the forum. I felt the energy from that building, from the TV screen. It was so energetic. The crowd fell out. And he like played that song so many times. And each time the crowd, like the second time he played it, he didn't even rap the crowd rap. You could hear the crowd rapping the song. It was so energetic. It was so fun. And I would even recommend going to some of our ringer fans, Twitter feeds, Jomi had some great commentary on the matter. Van was there. He had some great commentary on the matter. And then towards the end of, I think the fourth time he played the song, some LA local members, LA locals came out. We had Russell Westbrook. We had Demar DeRosen to NBA players who are from LA. We had YG. We had a lot like, it was a lot of gang affiliated members that were from different sets. But like, the beauty of it was that they were all on the stage having a good time. The beasts were set aside. No drama was had. And it was, it was, it was a sight to see like, honestly, like the tweets I've been saying is like, this is a history lesson. Jomi, they all got together for a photo. Jomi tweeted, our parents had the last supper hanging in their homes. This will be our version of that. And I replied, this is accurate, Jomi. This is, this is accurate. Yeah, a cultural and religious moment. It's, it's a real, it's a real, it's a real happening time for content. What I am obsessed with this week is simple. And it's been building in me all week, which is just that it's so great to have a show right now. You know, when you like, and in fact, I have several, it just feels like a return to form to have something that you are looking forward to watching on a weekly basis. And that's part of it, which is that I have several shows that are coming out weekly, which is rarer and rarer these days. One is, of course, House of the Dragon, which is back. It's kind of like the biggest zeitgeisty thing. But there's also this show on Apple TV called presumed innocent with Jake Gyllenhaal. It is like a remake of a Harrison Ford movie that I just, you know, clicked into wasn't expecting a lot out of. It's great, completely enthralled, literally can't wait for each new episode to watch. I'm watching clipped. Honestly, I'm really into Below Deck Med right now. That's, that's always a win for me. You love your Below Deck. Come on. I love my Below Deck. I love my weekly Below Deck installment. It's kind of just like checking off a box. And so it's just like really nice to have this rotation of shows that I felt like I was without for a while. Yeah. You know, I just, I love how culture. I love that for you. And I truly mean it this time. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. I don't have Apple TV or Apple Plus or whatever it is, but I do like Jake Gyllenhaal. So maybe I might tap into that. I love House of the Dragon. So I am watching that too. There's plenty of House of the Dragon content that you guys could get over in Ringiverse. But um, and clipped. I need to catch up on clip. And I think maybe next week we should discuss it because I know some, some juicy tidbits are coming up. So yeah, I, the summer, summer television is, is working. For me, Bravo isn't giving. I'm looking forward to Real Housewives of Orange County to come back. But maybe some of your suggestions will fill out my content plate. Yeah, I also didn't have Apple TV because I am currently running a scam where I have accidentally have an expired credit card on there. So sometimes I get things for free. And, and you know what, speaking of like sort of scams or things I thought were scams, but actually I'm just doing them wrong. Thank you to the people who DM'd me to tell me that I'm not getting peacock for just a penny more. The prices are just really similar. So I'm actually paying six more dollars a month when I thought I was just paying a penny more. Because I'm an idiot. But, but I think I'm going to keep doing it. It is so worth it to not have those commercials when I'm watching Below Deck Med, which is not a show you need to have commercials between. But if you have someone, if you're not running a scam on Apple and you have someone in your life who can get you Apple TV, I would recommend presumed innocent. Check back in here for an update on clipped to the trashiest basketball show on television that we're having a great time with. And I hope everyone else is enjoying their content as much as we are and is as obsessed with what was going on this week as we are. Thank you for listening. Thank you, Chelsea. Thank you, producer Sasha. And we will see you back here next week. Bye. [Music] [BLANK_AUDIO]
