(upbeat music) Welcome to TMZ Live, Harvey Levin here. - Charles here. - We are starting off with just something so tragic and heart-wrenching. The third child has now died in this knife attack at this dance studio where they were celebrating Taylor Swift's music and Taylor herself now has come out and she is just grief-stricken over this as are millions and millions of people who are watching the unthinkable. - Right, millions of people watching what happened to these kids who had just gathered for a completely joyous moment. And now, as you say, Taylor Swift is reacting, Taylor Swift's fans also reacting in a way that is really heartwarming. But the folks in this UK town are horrified. This is what Taylor had to say. The horror of yesterday's attack in Southport is washing over me continuously and I'm just completely in shock. These were just little kids at a dance class. I am at a complete loss for how to ever convey my sympathies to these families. It is-- - It's just horrific. So there are multiple kids still in critical condition. This is after a 17-year-old, a knife-wielding 17-year-old went after the kids, two adults tried to protect the kids. They were critically injured. These kids are still not out of the woods. There are, what, 11 people in all? - Yeah, there are the kids and there are, like you said, the two adults who are in critical condition. It is a bad situation and this is where things get really touchy. Because obviously, if you're a politician in the UK, you want to go and show your condolences, your sympathies for the community, but it doesn't always go the way you planned as the new Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, a Starmer found out. - How many more children they got found on street, Prime Minister? How many more children? How many more children, Prime Minister? Are we going to do something? Time to change, Starmer? - Come on, need it. How many more children, is it mine, Matt? - I got to say, I think this is total BS that this person is heckling him. I mean, there is a reason that people show up, that leaders show up, which are, you know, our presidents show up when they don't, they get criticized. - And that's what would have happened, I'm sure. - And Prime Minister Starmer did not show up. - Absolutely, and he's been Prime Minister for all of two weeks. - Yeah, Prime Minister since July 5th, it is unfortunate, obviously it's a distraction from the somber nature of the ceremony and the real reflection that the people of Britain are doing for the lost kids and also the others that are injured here. Keir Starmer obviously has been in office very short period of time. His hands are, you know, there's some, it seemed to be some people saying that there's nothing you can do. To stop this, shouldn't you do something more? Others are just upset because he's there and using it as a photo op. But to your point, Harvey, they're gonna be criticized if he doesn't show up for sure. - Right, right. - Not much you can do. - So they don't know a lot yet about the 17 year old who is the suspect in all of this, but it seems like they have a lead here because 20 minutes before the knife attack, this video was shot from a ring type camera and the guy in green is at least based on what we know. - Right. - He is the suspect who was arrested in this. He got in an Uber. - Yeah, that house he was pasting in front of was raided 20 minutes later after this video. So, yes, he fled the scene in an Uber, but police have him in custody now and they believe that this is the person who did this. - Meanwhile, one of the people who just, it's just hard even to process who witnessed this horror. - Yeah. - Is trying to kind of paint a picture. - You're gonna hear him describe, honestly, when I watched this and it reminded me so much of the things that we saw after Sandy Hook happened here in the US, but listen to this witness. - So I'm on the phone before I can really see no less for the police, you need to come now. You need to come now, bring everybody who are on. There's many ambulances as you can get. So I had a nightmare. The biggest, horrific thing you could have a witness in your life seeing little kids like that. I'm screaming down the phone crying. The tiny, you need you now. You need you now. These kids have bleeding to the cycle. Night more, you want to adjust. - Save them, tell me. - That will be emblazoned in his brain for the rest of his life. It is just horrific. - A little piece of good news. There's been a real effort to raise funds on behalf of the family. There's an organization called Swifties for Southport that's raised apparently about $135,000 and counting in support of the families who have lost people in this track. - It's really great that Taylor's fans have stepped up here. - Hi, my name is Tatiana. I'm calling from the DMV. And my heart absolutely goes out to the victims. I just pray for the families involved as well as the guy that witnessed the whole thing. And I hope they arrest that guy immediately. It's super leah tragedy. And my heart just goes out to the victims. - Again, they do have that man in custody. He is the suspect in this horrific attack. Okay, we're going to move on. - Yes, to some new support for Vice President Kamala Harris and her presidential campaign. One person, actually, we've heard there are a lot of celebrities who want to do something at the DNC. They are all still trying to plan that out. What is it now, three weeks? - Sway. - Yeah. - And, but we did find out one person who is going to be front and center for sure. That is John Legend. John Legend will be on stage there. What's uncertain at this point in the planning stage is what exactly he'll be doing. Is he going to perform? - Is he going to speak? - Both, but he wants to be involved and they want him on board, so. - And we know that John Legend has been a long time supporter of Democrats, particularly Joe Biden. He did some campaign events when he was running back in 2020. But I think John Legend is just a small piece of Kamala momentum. I mean, we are seeing so many celebrities come out for her, not to mention last night, the white dudes for Kamala call that drew in. Jeff Bridges, Mark Ruffalo. And today there's going to be a campaign event in Atlanta where Meg Dostallion is supposed to come out. George Lopez is going to be coming out at a campaign event soon. So I think the DNC is going to look a lot like the Grammys this year, honestly. It's going to be-- - That may be, and do not do that at the DNC. - They can't do that at the DNC. - That's a mistake. - They do that a sprinkle in. - You sprinkle in. - You sprinkle in. - You sprinkle in. - But if you do nothing with celebrities, that's not going to make a point. - What were you saying by making this out? - No, I was just wondering, is that going to be rappers for Harris? Because, look, we've had, starting from the day that Joe Biden stepped down, you had win with black women. - Right, and then you had-- - From 90,000 women. - Then he had white women. - No, no, no. Don't forget the black men. It was black men. - Oh, right, right, right. - Black men for Harris. They had 50,000. Then came the white women for Harris. - Give the white women. - And now, and last night, as Jacob mentioned, white dudes for Harris, that-- - They couldn't even say men. - They said-- - But hold on, there's a good reason that they went with the title "White Dude." - Why? - When you see one celebrity in particular who joined this, Jeff Bridges. - That's true. - But there were several others, but yes, the dude abided on this call last night. And they raised, what, another couple million dollars. - A friend sent me this email today with your hat on there, and I said, "Oh, I gotta have one of those." I qualified, man. I'm white, I'm a dude, and I'm for Harris. - I'm not sure if you guys can recall that feeling you had on the night of Tuesday, November 8th, 2016. I stood over my kid's bed, and I wept. - They always say, this is the most important election of our lifetime. I've heard that since I first voted in the '70s, but never has it been more true. - You know, I gotta say, something we were talking about when Jacob was on, that they've gotta be really careful not to put too many celebrities on this, because a lot of people outside of LA in New York don't react well to that. - It's fine, like when you're doing a fundraising thing like that last night, because it does get more people interested to get on the call. - Right, but when you're raising more than $4 million, but when you're actually presenting the platform for your party, there's one person. There is one person. - Well, the guy who kind of started the ball rolling. - No, that's no. - There's one person who could make a seismic change in everything. - Taylor Swift. - Yeah. - I thought you meant who's gonna be at the-- - No, no, no, if she's not gonna be at the convention. - If she comes out, she can mobilize voters like nobody else, I think. - Yeah, and she really do. - And she's already got Beyonce on board because she gave her the song. - Now Beyonce may be there to sing it, you know? - I'm serious, no, I get it. I'm just trying to think if that's a good or a bad thing. I think be there singing it. - I guess that would be-- - That's a good thing, yeah. I mean, that's the Lee Greenwood equivalent in the DNC. - Yeah, exactly, perfect. - Right. - Perfect. - And it's to be slaving off themselves at California and John Badgin is a legend. And I think celebrities in general coming out with Kamala Harris is a good thing. So, yeah, sorry, it's big night. - No, it's, like I said, it's great for fundraising. I just think you gotta be, even at the Republican convention, they sprinkled in, there were a lot of ordinary citizens who were there speaking also, and that's what people are looking for. (upbeat music) - The phrase conspiracy theory is being, you're hearing it whispered and it actually almost fully came out during a congressional hearing today where you had the acting director of the Secret Service and the deputy director of the FBI testifying before members of Congress about what happened on the day of the Donald Trump shooting or the assassination attempt. - We're gonna get into this, but I just wanna say one thing. We're not going to propagate this conspiracy theory here because we don't know. But when you start listening to how this breaks down, you can clearly understand why some people believe that. - Right, as I've frequently said, I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but I understand where that is coming for that sentiment is coming from as we get some answers and clearly not enough answers to really fill the void. And so when you don't have answers, people start to come up with conspiracies. Here is what Ronald Rowe, who is the now acting director of the Secret Service, had to say in one very heated exchange with Senator Josh Hawley, who basically Josh Hawley was saying, you've been on this job for three days. Who have you fired? - Who have you fired? - Because somebody needs to be fired. A former president was shot. So you need to be firing people. This was how Ronald Rowe responded. - You're asking me Senator to completely make a rush to judgment about somebody failing. I acknowledge this was a failure. - Is it not prima fascia that somebody has failed? A former president was shot. - Sir, this could have been our Texas schoolbook depository. I have lost sleep over that for the last 17 days. - And just like you are now. - And I will tell you Senator, I will tell you Senator, that I will not rush to judgment, that people will be held accountable, and I will do so with integrity and not rush to judgment and put people - I can't believe that you are, I can't. - Unfairly persecuted. - Unfairly served. - We have to be able to have a proper investigation into this Senator. - I gotta say. - Wow. - Josh Hawley is, I'm sorry guys. And again, I'm not being political here. I wanna say this. Josh Hawley is so out of line here, that you do have to look at who did what, and you just don't go to Congress and flex, and say, oh yeah, I fired people, because that's not the way it works. The guy's been on the job for three days, and to do that to him, he's just posturing, and it's disgusting. But beyond that, I gotta say, when you listen to the Deputy FBI Director today, and he went through everything that happened with this shooter, from days before, and going to shooting ranges, and the day of flying drones over there, and then more than 90 minutes before the attack, the Secret Service spotted him. They called him a suspect. He was photographed by the Secret Service. They were texting about him, and then they lose him, and then two minutes before, two minutes before, this guy climbs up on the building. There are a hundred people saying, there's a guy up on that building. - He's going down! - Two police officers who see it. One guy climbs up, he has to drop, because the guy has a gun, and when he drops, he radios. There's still 30 seconds before the shooting. - But this is one of the things that came out today, where they talked about that radio communications, and we talked about this the couple of days after, we're wondering, where are they not on the same channel? - But they were! - No, what they said today was that everyone wasn't on the same channel, which was a failure. That's one of the failures. How were they not on the same channel as these police officers, so that the Secret Service didn't get the information from the police the way they should have? - But that's true, but the Secret Service A-- - Well, they also had eyes on the guys, so. - And that's the thing. You've got these sharpshooters behind Trump, that are looking right in that direction. A hundred people, 30 seconds before, a hundred people are scattering, screaming. The guy's got a gun, the guy's got a gun. They're pointing at the Secret Service. They're pointing at the guy in the roof. And for 30 seconds, nobody in the Secret Service says, "Get Trump outta here." - You know what has happened? - We need to hear the communications. We need to hear all of the radio communications. - I don't know about that, Charles and Harvey. I mean, I agree with you about Josh Hawley, grandstanding, and so forth, but you can't listen to the Deputy Director of the FBI detailing that meticulous timeline, and not think that every step of this, from the 90 minutes when he was spotted, there were failures all along the way, and there does need to be some pretty swift accountability for this. I don't think a rash judgment, and they should go through the investigation, but heads have to roll when you have failures over 90 minutes when our man climbs up on a roof, it takes a shot at a former president. - Hi, I'm Love Jones, Wrecking Brooklyn, New York, and I have to absolutely agree about the conspiracy theories, because how was this able to happen? It just absolutely makes no sense that the Secret Service was able to drop the ball like this. To see this person, to deem him suspicious for everybody to be like, hey, hey, hey, somebody on the roof, and for him to still be able to act out his assassination attempt, something is just not right in the water. - Okay, so by the way, if you wanna see more on this, we have a documentary that just dropped on Tooby, called TMZ Presents Under Fire, the Trump Assassination attempt. We talked to multiple former Secret Service agents, I witnesses there, we speak to people who were right behind Trump, who talked to Trump. We pretty much do a 360 on this, and it's available for free on Tooby right now. Okay, all right, we're gonna move on. - Moving on to Bella Hadid, and that Adidas, that poorly, poorly planned, to say the least, Adidas campaign that she was part of, which she got so ticked off about it, remember this is the one where they were harkening back to the 1972 Munich Olympic Games, the one where Palestinian terrorists took Israeli athletes hostage and ended up killing all of them. So she was so angry about this and said, "Look, she hired a lawyer, "she was looking into taking action against Adidas. "I don't know if that's gonna happen now "because this is the statement that she came out with." She said, "I am shocked, I am upset, "and I am disappointed in the lack of sensitivity "that went into this campaign, "that I've been made aware from the bottom of my heart. "I would never have participated." While everyone's intentions were to make something positive and bring people together through art, the collective lack of understanding from all parties undermine the process. - She's a relatively young person, she's 27 years old, this is something, obviously, that happened in 1972, so what's that? Like 52 years ago now. - Do some research. - Hey, I'm with you. - And she's got a team. She's got a manager. - No, and that was my point. Somebody should have told her, I think somebody around her, then should have said something to her. If Bella doesn't know educate her, before she goes and essentially makes a fool of herself in front of the entire world. - Yeah, and by the way, and Adidas, I mean, what a dumb move that what Adidas did was, they figured, okay, so we're gonna take the shoe, which is symbolic of the 72 Olympics, where these Israelis were murdered, but then we need to get a Palestinian to balance it out. So everybody's gonna be happy, and I think that was their premise, and obviously no one was happy. - It's not. - It is crazy that the information was not presented. In front of it, like when the whole idea was presented, that should have, somebody should have said, what? (laughs) (air whooshing) - Hi, this is Shane from California. And I agree, I was shocked when I saw this campaign, and seeing her as the symbol for the 72 Olympics. And Adidas, whoever green let this campaign should be fired. And you know what I just realized isn't correct, I may be wrong on this. Wasn't Bella Dee, isn't her father, Muhammad Hadid? - Yeah. - Wasn't he an Olympian? - He was. - I don't know if he talked, but I don't know if she talked it. - I know, she didn't, and that's what I'm saying, like, I would think she didn't, because he certainly would have known. - But can I tell you something? - He absolutely would have known, and he would have said something. - What about the agent, and the lawyer, and the public, and all these people. - On and on and on. - To read a book or something for crying out loud. Watch the documentary, it's just something. (upbeat music) - So we've all moved past the pandemic, or at least we are trying, although-- - Although COVID's coming back. - Seems like COVID's been coming back. - It's like, we got some people in the office. - Well, they're not in the office now. - No, but it's a whole thing. - Yeah, it's a whole thing. But there was something that came out of the pandemic. A good idea that Wayne Brady had actually, I don't know if it's so much of an idea, as it's just life circumstances that he had, but he and his ex thought, "Well, maybe this will make a good show." And as it turns out, it did, it did. And they have that show now. It's called "Wayne Brady," the family remix, and it is really about his blended, modern family, I guess you would say, with his ex, and now he's got a new baby, not with his ex, with a girlfriend, who is also an ex now. Wayne's got a lot going on, so he's joining us right now to figure out how this all comes together on the show. Wayne, welcome back to TMZ Live. How you doing, man? - Thank you so much, fellas. Thanks for clicking. You know what? You actually did a really good job of keeping the timeline clear. It was very good. - Well, you know what he also did, Wayne? Our lives are so boring compared to their life. Oh my God! How is this all working? So all right, the premise when you had the idea for the show was you and your ex and your kids, and the cheery, Mary, is that correct? - She and Jason are partners, so I guess common law, at this point, they've been together like 15 years. - Right. - So in a nutshell, for those that haven't seen or followed, Mandy and I were married, and then we divorced, then we have our daughter, Miley, and then Jason was one of my backup dancers back in the day in my biggest residency. - Oh my God, really? - That's right. - Yeah, right. And so they are together. And then during the pandemic, we sheltered together, which was, and then we put out all these TikTok videos, which is when people came to see our family like, "Wait, is that Wayne Brady? "And why are you guys in the same house?" So people began to become interested in this weird, found family, which it's just been a reality for us. But I guess for some people, it's not, it's not the same, that supposedly when you're not with someone, you aren't supposed to be in their lives. But we don't think that's the truth. You know, you find family and you make family where you find it. And we happen to find family in each other. And that's just what we wanted to show. - So you obviously divorced for a reason. - Yeah. - Now that the dust settled and you got back, did you guys get along better than you did when you were married? - Yes. And that's what I try to tell people. Marriage is a thing. And please don't come for me in the internet. For some people, marriage becomes a thing that, I think because you hear the word marriage, all the weight that comes with marriage and all the stuff that comes with marriage and you're gonna be with me, it ends up souring what might have been an amazing friendship and because you're busy trying to be married versus busy trying to be good to each other. And we work on trying to be good to each other. And it's wonderful. And then at the end of the day, if we have a fight, I'm not married to you. I go home to my house. - That's great. - I love that. - Except that now you're all spending more time together shooting the show and you have the addition of a new baby, a new addition to the family. Congratulations, by the way. - Yeah, thank you, thank you. - With your now ex-girlfriend. So is the ex-girlfriend still part of the show because she is the mother of your child. So I'm guessing she's still involved. She's in a couple episodes of the show, yes. Because we are co-parenting. And that's also the thing of life throws things at you. Did I see myself being a dad at 50? Nope, but things happen and that's where we are. And it is a beautiful blessing. - We had one question we wanted to ask you 'cause I know another element of this is how you all interact and you have come out and said that you are pansexual? - Right. - And so I'm sure that adds an element to the show. We were discouraged 'cause we were looking up what pansexual really meant. - We wanna know the difference between bisexual and pansexual. - Bisexual is the actual you are attracted to a woman or a male. The way that I understand the definition of pansexual is somebody who is attracted to everyone on that spectrum. Male, female or someone who identifies as non-binary or anyone in that spectrum. So it's kind of like a, Miley also taught, it taught me the, what is it? Hearts, not parts. That being able to be attracted to the person versus whatever shell that they're in. And that might be a little new agey for some people and some people are like, well, I don't get it. That's cool, it's not for you to get. I'm the one that's gotta live here. So I'm finding this out myself. And it's a cool path. I'm finding out that it's open to me in a way and it's given me a freedom. And when I thought about what does bisexual mean, there's a such thing as bisexual erasure where people don't believe that that's not real. And to my friends who are bisexual, I completely get it. Because now there are folks that are like, ah, pansexual, it isn't a thing, but it is. And so I'm just trying to discover what this path is myself. - Does this play out in the show? - Yes. - Well, I mean, it plays out in the fact that you see, like when I came out in People Magazine, you see the timeline and all the stuff. And then, you know, if there's a season two, who knows? Maybe by that point, I'll be dating somebody, I don't know. - Well, listen, folks, can you see the show now? Wednesday nights on Freeform. The next day it's available on Hulu. Wayne Brady, the family remix. Wayne, thanks so much for being with us. - Thanks, Wayne. - Thanks, Charles. - We look forward to a season two. - Thank you, fellas. - All right. - We'll see you. - Interesting. - Yeah. - It's really interesting. - Like you said, our lives are boring as hell. - Boring as hell. - Taking a break. - All right, so when we come back, big news from R. Kelly. He is going to the US Supreme Court asking to have his conviction in Illinois overturned. And he says this has to do with charging him under a law that did not exist when he did the crime. (upbeat music) - Welcome back to TMZ Live. We broke a big story this morning. Early this morning that R. Kelly wants the US Supreme Court to hear his appeal, basically, that says my conviction in Illinois should be overturned. And the reason is they charge me for under a law that didn't exist when I committed the crimes, as they say. - Well, they're saying that the statute of limitations was extended and that if you looked at the time of the crime, the statute would have run, but you can't-- - But then in the early 2000s, there's a new act that's called the Protect Act. - And the idea is that they're arguing you can't use a law that was passed after the fact that extends the statute of limitations to convict somebody when the statute would have run based on the time they committed the crime. I believe I have that right. - Well, let's get to the person who understands exactly what they're gonna say in front of the Supreme Court. That is R. Kelly's attorney, Jennifer Bongine. Jennifer, welcome back to TMZ Live. How are you doing? - Good, thanks for having me back. - Did I get that right? - You did. You're like a legal scholar. - Wow, you passed the class again. (laughing) So explain, one of the things that I think people are wondering is did this come up during the trial? - Yes, we raised this issue pre-trial and it was denied. The government's position is that they admit that they applied a statute of limitations that did not exist at the time the conduct was allegedly committed, but they're saying we were permitted to extend it. It didn't harm him. It didn't violate what is known as the ex post facto clause. And our position is not so fast. The lawmakers, Congress passed a law that was intended to apply prospectively. So when they extended the statute of limitations, they didn't say, oh, you can apply it to cases that existed or the conduct happened before this, but moving forward, we're gonna make it, we're gonna extend the statute of limitations. So what we're saying is when they did that, they were not permitted to apply it to conduct that occurred in the 1990s. And Congress basically said as much, there was actually discussion about applying it to retroactively, as they say, and they did away with that provision. They said, no, we're not gonna pass that version of the bill. So this really comes down to the fact that the government has to interpret these statutes as they were intended to be applied, and they're taking great liberties with it. And they did so in this case, the ends justifies the means type of thing. And I think the US Supreme Court will be really interested because it doesn't, this isn't just an archelly issue. This is all about, do we give the government the power to take liberties with statutes that were not intended to apply as they're applying them? - Just to explain to you all that the Supreme Court, by the way, have they said that they are going to actually, - No, they're just filed, they were just filed. - They were just filed, they were just making decisions. - Right, we don't have an automatic right of appeal. We are just seeking leave and asking for their permission to consider the appeal so that that should be made clear. - And the one point that I think is really important for people to understand is that when the Supreme Court would look at something like this, one of the things you look at is the legislative history. And Jennifer, as you said, that the fact that they considered making it retroactive and rejected it is a part of legislative history that could be a big factor and could get the Supreme Court to grant certiorari, which means they'll hear the case. - Yeah, I think that's right. I think you look at the legislative history and it's very clear that they did not intend for this extended statute of limitations to apply retroactively or to conduct that occurred decades before they enacted this extended statute of limitations. And there's a reason for that. Statutes of limitations exist for a reason. Over time, memories fade, people have different recollections, witnesses die, evidence is destroyed, and there's a real fundamental fairness problem about how do you defend cases that are decades old? It's not just a matter of exposed fact considerations, but there's more at stake. And I think this will be very appealing. Again, the U.S. Supreme Court also isn't just considering about whether, isn't just considering whether our Kelly was treated unfairly. They have to think about these things for everybody. That's kind of their job. The named defendant is somewhat irrelevant when the U.S. Supreme Court takes up an issue. - So, the U.S. Supreme Court is under attack in a very big way. President Biden is going to propose legislation to change the way, what did you change, term limits, all sorts of things. There are people talking about packing the court. There are people who want Alito and Thomas removed. They are under fire right now. Do you think that politics will play a part in their decision on whether to hear the case, because if they hear the case, and if they overturn the conviction, there is gonna be a torrent of criticism? - Sure, because it's our Kelly, right? But I like the Supreme Court for this issue, frankly, because the Supreme Court seems to understand that we have a government that's run amok, that we have prosecutors who have run amok. They are taking extraordinary liberties with statues that were never intended by Congress, exceeding their authority, essentially, in so many different ways. Now, I get it, this particular defendant, they may believe, you know, shouldn't be the beneficiary of it. But again, there are much greater principles at stake. And I hope, and I believe that the US Supreme Court can ultimately, they're not so, they understand what's at stake. And it's not just about our Kelly, it's about everybody. And do we let the government continue to run amok in these federal prosecutions, whoever the defendant is? And I think the Supreme Court can do that. And I think we have a good chance of getting cert granted. - Okay, well, you will see. As you said it, I mean, potentially, you could have the Supreme Court hearing two different R Kelly cases, if it plays out that way. - Yeah. - Should be. - Different issues, but. - Quite a thing, yes. - Very big. - Jennifer, thank you. - Interesting issue. - Yeah, really appreciated Jennifer, thank you. - Thank you. Thanks for having me, guys. - Get up. Question for you. I just started this. Would the Supreme Court play sort of hot potato? Like, just say we're not gonna hear this case because they're aware that, as you said, the blowback, if they, 'cause if they look at the actual merits of it. - Right. - And decide. - If it were Josho. - Right, but because it's R Kelly, do they decide maybe we're just not gonna do this? - If they don't grant certiorari, which means they will hear the case, if they don't grant that, they don't say what, generally why. - Generally why. - Sometimes they do. But all they have to do is say cert denied. And they don't have to explain it and it goes away. - Wow. (upbeat music) - Well, Donald Trump's running mate, JD Vance, has made it clear how he feels about people who like cats and don't have kids. - Can I just say, he tried to say, now I was joking in response to all of this. Doesn't seem to be a joke. - No, this does not seem to be a one off because just as the interview with Tucker Carlson was unearthed, there was an older interview from 2020. This was on a podcast. And it's the same sentiment, but in a different scenario, clearly, if you don't have kids, JD Vance doesn't have time for you. - I don't pray as much as I should, but every night with my three year old, before he goes to bed, we make sure to say our prayers, right? There's just these basic cadences of life that I think are really powerful and really, really valuable when you have kids in your life. And the fact that so many people, especially in America's leadership class, just don't have that in their lives, I worry that it makes people more sociopathic and ultimately our whole country a little bit less mentally stable. And of course, you talk about going on Twitter. Final point I'll make is you go on Twitter and almost always the people who are most arranged and most psychotic are people who don't have kids at home. - He has contempt. He has contempt. - Hold on. - For people who don't have kids. - First, I'm not invested in the future of the country and I don't make any sacrifices for the country. - And now I'm a sociopath. - Yeah. - So are you. - Yeah, I know. Look, at least he got, I will say this. At least he's just putting it out there and it's very clear how we feel. - Well, he wasn't. - How we feel. - No, he wasn't because he didn't try to backtrack. - He totally tried to backtrack. - But even the backtrack kind of backfired because it was very clear he didn't really mean it when he tried to say I was joking. - Well, here's the thing though. Donald Trump defended him. Last night he was on Fox News and Donald Trump cosigned. - He's got tremendous support and he really does among a certain group of people. People that like families. I mean, you know, he made a statement having to do with families. That doesn't mean that people that aren't a member of a big and beautiful family with 400 children around and everything else. It doesn't mean that a person doesn't have, he's not against anything, but he loves family. - JD Vance has put his foot in his mouth time and time again and thankfully we live in the digital era. People can resurface clips. - That explanation doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but even things Trump says lately doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. Remember the whole, "Oh, Christians, if you vote for me this year, you won't have to vote in four years." - Well, that's not a matter of whether it makes sense. - I know, but it's in the same vein. - That might be what it means. - Yeah, like it's like basically him trying to like re-explain what he means or what his VP pick means. It's not good. - Do you think he's gonna last? Do you think Trump will be? - Yeah, no, I think he's gonna stick with him. I'll tell you what isn't working and this has just became apparent to me. This color combination is awful. Purple and mustard. - I think it's nice. - I like it. - What are you talking about? - What are you talking about? - I'm not saying that you're sure it is bad. I'm just saying the combination of these two is not. - In my eye, I like the company. - We apologize, Mark. - Hey guys, I'm Katie Vaughn from Memphis, Tennessee. And first up, I'm an art teacher. Your color combination is right on point. But the JD Vance thing, like we are women. We, you know, I love cats, but now I have kids in my forties, but still those comments are troubling. - I'd like to find out, oh, I wonder how cat adoption has gone over the last couple of days. (laughing) (upbeat music) - You know, the Russ trial and now they think about it is not really completely in Alec Baldwin's rear view because he has said that he intends to file a lawsuit against the prosecutors for what happened in that case. So there's still some drama there in New Mexico to go back to. - We'll see if that happens. - All right. - That's a, that's a steep mountain to climb. - It is, but it doesn't mean he won't try. - No, I know. - But in the meantime, he's got some more light-hearted things to do. He's got a day job in reality TV, which is bizarre. - It's bizarre. - It's never thought. And this is not at all a not on reality TV. - This is not Alec Baldwin. - It's just not Alec Baldwin. - It's not his idea. - Well, he and the family are all out in the Hampton. - I'm guessing, I don't know, but I'm guessing. - And they're out in the Hampton's and this is the first time they've been shooting their reality show for TLC. - Yeah, and it shows Alec and Hilaria being like sweet parents. They're showing the kids how to cut vegetables. And remember, they have seven kids all under the age of 10 years old and the TLC show is gonna be following them as parents. But it's just so, such a different light that we're seeing this family in. You know, Alec, like you guys said, he's been involved in this insane case. It's been very serious. And then now here he is in a TLC show being like a sweet dad and teaching his kid how to use a knife. Very different. By the way, the season is gonna be airing next year. And we did see cameras at the courthouse, but we were told that was for a documentary, not for the TLC show. - Hey guys, it's Nadion Houston. We have a surprise to learn his wife's so charming. I watched the trailer. It looks really interesting. It becomes more interesting because of this case. So I'm gonna watch it. - She's charming. She is charming, clearly. And she has good ideas. So you say, you wanna join in? What else you guys wanna talk about? - I'm in Illinois, New Mexico, and my topic is Taylor. And this situation in general is terrible in these times. And a lot of us have become detached from it because it's happened so often. I definitely feel for the families. And I feel for Taylor mostly too because her name is attached to something that was supposed to be so lighthearted and so fun. And that was such a tragic situation. - It was, it's beyond words. - Yeah. - One more. - Hey, this is Sikora. And I wanna talk about John Legend being at the Democratic convention. I mean, he's a great inspirational speaker, but we would like to see him doing what he does best, which is performing. And a song like "Gore" would be like perfect for that occasion. - We don't know what he's gonna do yet. We do not know if it's performing or speaking. - He doesn't have a lot of upbeat songs. He's great at ballads, but ballads don't really work. I mean, "Gore" is one that would work, I guess. - Yeah, I just-- - That's why I think he's gotta be something more than just performing. - Or he's, yeah, right. - Yeah. - I feel the same way. (upbeat music) - They grew up so fast. We say it all the time 'cause we're just getting older. But Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban's daughter is over in Paris with Mom checking out the Olympics as Sunday rose. - Boy, do they look like-- - Now 16. - Well, they went to an event Monday night and then Tuesday they were in the stands watching the US Gymnastics team. - And guess what? - When it was Gymnastics team. - They won gold. - Bring home the gold. - They won gold. - It's a fifth gold medal for Simone Biles. - Pretty amazing. - It's impressive. - By the way, there are a lot of celebrities who are tons of celebrities. This is a good Olympics. It's really good. - In case you want to maybe match these colors for yourself, I believe it's available at Sears. - Don't do it. - Those Sears isn't available anymore, but there you go. - It said Sears. - I don't know. - See you at the Woolworth. (laughing) (upbeat music)
