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That looks to be Benin, I believe so, yes. - Very well, I'm reading the sign on the back. - I didn't know the flag. - So the festivities have started, as we've told you, we broke the story, Celine Dion, performing with Lady Gaga during opening ceremony. - They're both performing, don't know that they're performing together. - They are performing together. - Well, Lady Gaga already has already been out and she performed by herself on the bang for the spin. - But Celine will come out and sing an Edith Piaf song with-- - I'm guessing that Lady Gaga. - We haven't seen Celine yet. - Not yet, but it's gonna happen. - Yeah, and Ed Gaga-- - What they're gonna do is take Gaga from where she was performing initially over to the stadium where Celine is-- - Exactly, yeah. - Egg, exactly. - I bet you're a helicopter. - Ooh, yeah. - You think they got that kind of money? We're gonna get into the money in a minute, exactly. - But there is an issue, actually speaking of money, there is an issue with these Olympics involving prostitutes. - Yes, and a crackdown on prostitutes because the Paris authorities are very concerned about sex workers, they're more concerned about pimps. They've actually started a whole unit of their police, and by the way, they have tens of thousands of police officers-- - It's shocking the number of people that are guarding this. - For the security concerns, but also-- - In the middle of all of it, they're worried about prostitute. - Got a special detail just to worry about sex work, and this is something we hear about in this country a lot around the Super Bowl, but it seems-- - I don't know why-- - I've shocked that this is going on-- - Exactly. - In Paris. - Exactly. - Not only are the Paris police cracking down on pimps, but they're also cracking down on John's. In 2016, Paris lawmakers passed into law something that criminalizes those people who purchase sex rather than these sex workers themselves. - So-- - Interesting. - But why? - It's like Paris? - But those are, so all the, basically what they're saying is the tourists who come in for the Olympics were watching you. And I don't know if that's, is that great PR for your tourism board that-- - I don't know. - I don't know. - Can I-- - Not that they're concerned about this in Europe, right? I guess that's why-- - They shouldn't be concerned-- - I'm sorry for getting on a soapbox here, but we know that we are very puritanical in this country, so I get why it happens in this country. - Why? - But I didn't think Europe was that way. - Why? - It's like this is, if anything, you've got the government, again, telling women what they can and can't do with their own bodies. You already have only fans and everybody's fine with it. So if somebody-- - That's not the same thing. - But wait a minute, if somebody-- - That's not the same thing. - You know what? Somebody has sex-- - It's not the same thing. - But wait, let me make the argument. Somebody has sex on only fans and they charge money, but that's, but they charge money-- - There's no actual contact-- - There is contact-- - There is contact-- - But there isn't. - Yes, there is. - No, there isn't. - Well, online, there are no actual physical contact-- - But they make money with advertising. - Yes. - So what's the difference who pays? What's the difference? - I think that a municipality will tell you the difference is actual humans meeting up and-- - There are people meeting up on only things, but it's just they're able to monetize it. - Not how it works. - I know that's not the way it works, but what I'm saying is why do we care if somebody decides to have sex for money? Why do we care? Why is it criminalized? Aren't there bigger things? And by the way, if you decriminalize it, then all of the force that's used with sex workers, with pimps and others, most of that just goes away. It just goes away. So I've never understood why people are clutching their pearls over this. I never understood it because when everybody is now talking about a woman's body, a woman has the right, why are we telling people what they can and can't do? It just, I'm sorry. That's my rant. I will stop. - I think the authorities might be concerned about the passing of HIV or other-- - Yeah, STI's, yeah. - It transmitted diseases, and that's why they try to criminalize it. - There are-- - That's exactly what cities tell you. - Great, and you know what? - And you know what? There are people in the porn industry that get tested way more often than the average-- - Because that's regulated. - Well, but then you could know because they want to do it because that's part of the industry. That's part of the industry. - The industry, so why couldn't the industry do the same thing with prostitution? - This is a bigger conversation. Enjoy the Olympics. - Hello, my name is Honor Williams, and I am in Washington, DC. I think the Paris government wants the focus to only be on the athletes during this Olympic time, and I support the government on cracking down on all illegal activities to make sure that the athletes are competing in a safe environment. The world spotlight is on Paris right now, and they want to make sure there aren't any blemishes for anyone to see. - Meanwhile, yeah. - Meanwhile, they're passing out condoms like crazy at the Paris-- - That's exactly-- - For the teeth. - That's for the athletes. - So why is this so different? - So you're saying that-- - 'Cause the past most-- - Walking around handing out condoms and not-- - The task-- - Busting people. - The task force should be doing other things. Let's talk about Oprah and Gayle, okay? - Shall we? - Let's do that. - Let's do that. - Oprah and Gayle not at the Olympics, not yet anyway. Wouldn't be surprised if they pop up there at some point, but they are addressing a long, long time rumor. I mean, for decades now, there have been a lot of buzz that Gayle and Oprah are more than just friends, that they are, as we say on Teams on TV. - Friends. - Well, they addressed it finally. - Yeah. - They were on Melinda Gates' podcast. - Which is just funny, they did it on Melinda Gates' podcast because that's an elevated kind of forever. But the conversation came around to the rumor about them actually being romantically linked. Here's how they addressed it. - The two of you have navigated these very public lives, but you obviously have a piece of privacy in your lives too, and you stayed true to this friendship. How have you navigated keeping who you are and being a public figure? Is this hard for you or easy? - No, I'm just trying to think how we've met it. And I'm just gonna say, what if we're not shared? (both laughing) - Okay, I mean, you feel comfortable just sharing everything. - Pretty much. - Pretty much everything. And I would have to say it wasn't even a matter of navigation. - Yes. - For years, people used to say we were gay, or we were, and listen, we were up against that forever. And people still make it. And I used to say to her, you gotta do a show on this 'cause it's hard enough for me to get a date on Saturday and have people thinking we're gay. - Yeah. - Because if we were gay, we would tell you. - I love the way they said it. - I just, but I love the way Gayle just said that. I just, I mean, 'cause it's so matter of fact that, yeah. We tell you if we were gay, it's not like they're hiding it. It's not that they were shamed of the concept of it. - Right. - But I just, I don't know, the way they handled that, I thought was great. Yeah. - Yeah, and also it came off pretty believable. And Oprah had said, like, look, people aren't used to seeing women being super close. And, you know, Oprah and Gayle, they've famously have gone on these amazing vacations together. They're always laughing together. - Ah, that road trip, remember the road trip. - And Louise, yeah. - Yes, and they've been single. So I think that's why people always thought, like, oh, is this like- - Well, Oprah's not single. - Oprah's not single. Oprah's not single. - Well, do we wanna know what Stedman's role is? - You just cut Stedman completely. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - That was not right. - If you guys remember, in 2013, Oprah actually won an Andy Cohen show, and he asked her if she's ever dipped in the Lady Pond, and she said no. And then Andy later said that he regretted asking her that, but she has kind of addressed this over and over the years. - Yes, the first time we've seen them together, addressing it, but they've individually- - I thought they handled it super well. I really don't. - Jasmine from Los Angeles, California, and I don't think that Gil and Oprah are gay. I don't think they would admit it if they were, because they come from a generation where our respectability politics and traditional values are really important. So I don't think they would be up front telling us, but I also think the reason why we believe their lesbians is because America has wrapped up in misogyny. We just can't believe two women could be best friends and do that, open with each other. - I think that's a fair point, but I gotta challenge you on this, that you think Oprah, is that a gale or that close-minded, that if they were gay, they would never say it, because it might be a moral issue for them? - I think so. I think that their appearance and how they appear to the public is really important to them. They may pretend like it doesn't matter, but it does. - I think they would be cool. - If that would be. - And they don't have anything to risk. They're so successful. - Nothing to risk. - Nothing to risk. I gotta go back to something you said though. Were you suggesting that Thumb and Louise? - Okay. - No. - Miss Kenny. - How are they getting to the movie? - 'Cause I saw the movie completely differently. I was like, wait a second. I gotta go back and watch that again. - I was just thinking of the movie. (upbeat music) - I think that folks over at Zoom have some words for Vice President Kamala Harris. Slow down a little bit on the wave of support for your campaign because last night there were huge issues on that platform because of a rally of sorts that was organized that had at points nearly 200,000 people on board. The organization was called Answer the Call 2024 and the people answering the call, in this case, are white women and they came out in record numbers. There were similar rallies I think on Sunday night there was one with black women and that was 50,000 something like that. And then black men had a rally as well and raised, both times they raised millions. Last night they raised $2 million probably counting. - Which is astonishing. - In just 90 minutes. So the person who organized this is joining us right now, Shannon Watts and she is the organizer and founder of Moms Demand Action. Shannon, welcome to TMZ Live. - Thank you so much for having me and just in, we've now raised over 8.5 million and counting. - Wow. - Wow. - 8.5 million? - Yes, I think we'll get to 10 by the end of the day. - That is-- - I would say so. - A astounding. So-- - Like $70,000 a minute? - Wow. So I gotta ask you, when you organize this, what was behind it? Was it that when you look at polling that Donald Trump was polling better with suburban women that he did in 2020? Was it because you wanted to make sure that people would embrace a black woman in that role? What was it that inspired you to do it? - Well, so just to be clear, we are not an organization. This was just a call like that you mentioned, the black women and the black men it had. After I saw win with black women have their call, which they organized in just a matter of hours. I at least had two days. But we want a black women, the woman's name is Joteka Edie, and she organized this call and they raised over a million and a half dollars. They had 44,000 people on Zoom. And so I reached out to her and said, white women need to use their privilege and platform to do the same thing. Obviously, we're all coming together as a coalition, but I love that each group is having a call. We've seen LGBTQ people having their own call, Southeast Asian women are having their own call, on and on and on, right? So I think what's so interesting is that this is a way to bring money and new voters into the fold so that we can all come together and elect Kamala Harris in 100 days in terms of why I did it. White women continue to fail the rest of the electorate by voting for Republicans. We've only voted for Democrats twice, the majority of white women in two elections since the 1950s. So we have a lot of regrets and we should and it's time to flip the script and make sure that we are in the majority when we vote Kamala Harris in as president in 100 days. - Shannon, during the call, what was the issue that felt like was most important to the people who were there? And by the way, we should notice, we should point out that there were a lot of celebrities that joined this as well. I saw Connie Britton was there and her pink actually joined after a concert that she had overseas. It was like 3 a.m. where she was, but she wanted to be on. What was the most important issue for the group? - Yeah, pink had just gotten off the stage in Stockholm and was on a plane over the North Pole and found Wi-Fi to join us. - Wow. - I would say, look, I wanna be clear, this wasn't just a rally in many ways it was a reckoning. And it was white women talking, frankly, about how we needed to do better and how we could do better. And what were the very specific actions we could take to make sure that we got off the sidelines and that we weren't complacent and that we were part of the coalition that would elect Kamala Harris as president. So there was a lot of conversation about what we got wrong in 2016 and how we can do better in 2024, but I also wanna be clear, there was a lot of joy. You don't usually equate Zoom with joy, but in those tiny boxes, these women were going crazy. They were crying and clapping and pumping their fists and laughing and smiling and the energy was overwhelming. We crashed Zoom three times because they had never, we broke the Zoom record, Kamala broke the Zoom record. There had never been over 100,000 participants on any call even during COVID. So I think that just is testament to the fact that there's so much energy for electing Kamala Harris. - So in a way, this is kind of preaching to the choir because you've got people on there who are Kamala Harris fans. The issue is how do you reach those people who didn't vote Democrat for many, many years? So was there a game plan that you came up with specifically with white women to change minds and get out the vote? - You know, there were a lot of women who direct message me after the call and said, I did the wrong thing in 2016 or I've never donated before or I've never been politically active and it's finally time. I really think the Trump Vance message of hating cat ladies and wanting to take away abortion and IVF, that is scaring women regardless of their political persuasion and white women are about 40% of the voting electorate that makes us the largest voting bloc. However, we are divided along lines of religion, marital status and so even the smallest shift in the way we vote can swing entire election. - You mentioned JD Vance's comments. Was that a hot topic? Should his ears have been ringing during the Zoom call? - Absolutely. Look, there's a real hatred of women coming from the Trump Vance ticket. It is not enough to just be misogynistic. They actually want to take away our freedoms and our safety and that's terrifying. That is not the future we want. We saw what happened when Donald Trump was president already. It was incredibly dangerous, but let's be honest, he didn't know what he was doing. He does now. We know that because of Project 2025. That's something they want to implement day one and it would be catastrophic for women in this country, particularly marginalized and vulnerable women and we just have to keep getting that message out. - You know, most people I think have kind of dug in already and they have made their choice and there's not a whole lot that's going to move the needle with most people. I mean, they've seen Donald Trump and they either like him or they don't. So they're familiar with him, less familiar perhaps with Kamala Harris, but still people have dug in. So it's that very small group of A, independence and B, getting people out to vote. So did you guys focus on that? Or was a game plan for-- - Exactly. - To get out in the field. - Exactly. I've been involved in gun violence prevention for over a decade and what I realized is you're not gonna change the hearts and minds of extremists. Those people who are diehard Donald Trump fans are probably not going to come to our side, but there actually is a pretty large swath in the middle. Again, women are the voting majority. We are a huge and powerful voting block. If we can peel off some of the women who voted the wrong way in past elections, we actually can win in a landslide. So we are starting to see that needle move. I don't know if you've seen the polls that show that Kamala Harris is almost tied now with Donald Trump and Georgia. So we're starting to see that shift and I actually believe we can peel off voters. And I think it's particularly swing women voters in swing states that will come to our side. - Hey, well, we'll see. If you get threatening letters from Zoom, I throw them out. - I'm sure they're thrilled. - I think you're right, actually. - I'm sure they are. - I think you're right. - Good advertising for them. All right, thanks so much for being with us, Shannon. - Appreciate it, Shannon. - Appreciate it. - Thank you. - Interesting, really fascinating. Yeah, I guess the numbers make sense, right? So if black women have, and black men each have 50,000, and they're the minority, and then you have white women, the majority, makes sense that they had about 200,000 people. - But it's interesting, they came. - Yes. - That's really interesting. (upbeat music) - I think you call this a plot twist, a major plot twist for Justin Timberlake's DWI case. At least the way that his legal team is putting it out there, because we all saw the mugshot after his arrest. Everyone commented, wow, look at his very glassy hide, and figured, all right, look, he had some drinks. We don't know what his blood alcohol was because he refused a breathalyzer. - Correct. - And now, his attorney, Edward Burke Jr. is speaking out about that arrest, and says, the cops got it wrong. What did they get wrong? - And this was in court today, by the way. - Yes, in court, this is what Mr. Burke had to say. Sometimes the police, just like every one of us, make mistakes, and that is the case in this very incident. The fact remains, he was not intoxicated. I'll say it again. Justin Timberlake was not intoxicated, and we are very confident that that criminal charge will be dismissed. - Okay, so let's unpack this for a second. So, this is what happens when lawyers on opposing sides are jockeying. Ed Burke is a very good lawyer. He is a very good defense lawyer. But here's the deal. Yes, Justin Timberlake refused a breathalyzer test. He is allowed to do that. There are consequences. He is allowed to do it. Here's his problem. You have cops who will testify that they saw Justin Timberlake blow a stop sign. They'll have body cam of this, by the way. Swerving in the road, flunking several feels sobriety tests. - And they'll say that-- - And smelling alcohol on his breath. - And they're gonna testify to that, right? - And they're gonna testify to that. - So how does Justin refute any of that? - Here's how he refutes it. You show whatever weakness you can on the part of the prosecution, and you negotiate a deal. And the deal, ideally, for somebody like Justin Timberlake. - First time, the fender-- - Might be lowering it to reckless driving. Or something like that, where he pleads no contest to reckless driving. That's the win in a situation like this. The idea that the judge would dismiss the case because he refused to take a breathalyzer, ain't gonna happen. - It seems Edward Burke, too, also stated that there was some sort of paperwork error. They were saying that somebody failed to sign one of the key documents, and that was kind of the initial basis. Today's hearing was trying to get it thrown out. And he said, like you guys read in this statement, and again, he said he was adamant outside of the court, that there are more mistakes similar to this. So that's kind of, at least part of his argument of forgetting this kind of thrown out on this. - There were, and I have some recon on this. There were other mistakes. The issue is are the mistakes going to have any impact. This case is never, folks. Never going to go to trial. This case will be plea bargain the way almost every DUI is. They are not gonna-- Edward's a great lawyer. He is not going to go to court, and then have this cop testify, who didn't even know Justin Timberlake, by the way, just stopped this guy because he blew the stop sign and swerved him. - Right, didn't know who he was, right. - That's right. So this case is gonna, plea bargain, I don't know how, and I don't know what they're gonna ask. And again, it is possible that the prosecutor's gonna say, nope, we're not gonna plea bargain, take your chances at trial. I still don't think they would do that, because why have another new sign-- - I don't know exactly. - Exactly, exactly. That's right. - Hi, this is Mariah at a New York City. I mean, I think it's a good question as to whether or not it'll go to trial, but I mean, I would air with caution with this information from his attorney, because let's be honest, lawyers are gonna do what they're paid to do, which is to defend their clients. So yeah, I mean, I think it's very interesting. Someone who takes drunk driving very seriously. My mom's life is almost taken by a drunk driver, so. Well, just, I don't like that Justin Timberlake has been joking about this during his trial, especially, or joking about this during his tour. - In concert, yeah, yeah. - Yes, while all this is happening in the backdrop. So, I mean, I just wanna say, I take drunk driving very seriously. And again, this is coming from his attorney, who is paid to do what he's doing right now, which is to defend his client. - You know, one other point, why Justin Timberlake is, this is never gonna go to trial. You know what one of the pieces of evidence is gonna be, right? - No, what? - The body cam. And you're gonna see him flunk the field sobriety test. - Absolutely. - And he doesn't want-- - But hold on, but that may also could come out even after the case is done. - Not necessarily. I mean, it could, it's really up to the judge and whether to release it or not. I mean, right now, the police are saying they're not releasing it because it's still part of the investigation. - Right. - But, he doesn't want this to be played in court, where you see him taking the test, where you see him blowing the stop sign. It's just not gonna happen. - Yeah. - It is not gonna happen. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Welcome back to TMZ Live, Jennifer Aniston, much the way George Clooney sort of started the ball rolling in the public cry for Joe Biden to step down from the campaign. Jennifer Aniston has started a thing with celebrities sounding off on JD Vance, the Senator from Ohio, who of course is now Donald Trump's running mate, and the comments he made on Tucker Carlson's show a few years ago. - About childless cat ladies. - Same thing, the Democratic party. - The Democratic party. - The Democratic party. - And running the country. - Running into the ground. - Right. So, we got Kesha out at LAX yesterday. Photog ran into her and just wanted to, she was clearly in a hurry, but wanted to get the question out about JD Vance. Watch, the second she hears JD Vance's name, watch her reaction. - JD Vance. - Ooh. - Ooh. - He (beep) - Bad mess. - That's all I have to say. (beep) - Come on. - JD Vance says that the country is being run by childless cat ladies. - It is, it is, it is. - And this is what it looks like. - No, listen, look, a lot of people are upset because he's basically, it's a sexist comment. - Absolutely. - Are you gonna support Kamala? Are you gonna stop for her? - Absolutely. - She went for sass over substance. - Short and sweet. - Yes. - Short and sweet, definitely sassy. - So JD Vance tried to clarify his remark on Meghan Kelly's podcast. And he may have dug the hole a little bit deeper, actually. - It's not a criticism of people who don't have children. I explicitly said in my remarks, despite the fact the media has lied about this, that this is not about criticizing people who for various reasons didn't have kids. This is about criticizing the Democratic Party for becoming anti-family and anti-child. Having kids is good. Being a parent changes your perspective on the world. That is not a bad thing to stand up for parents. In fact, it's the best thing if our politics isn't standing up for parents, then what the hell are we doing, Meghan? - So two things. One, I didn't realize that all policy is supposed to be parent central. - Well, there are two things. One is that yes, it's great having kids, but why denigrate those who don't? To me, that's the first point. - Well, he started out saying that I'm not attacking people who haven't had kids or aren't able to have kids, but then at the end, he said-- - He made it clear. - Policy should be about helping people who have kids. And you, and-- - But then he said-- - And it's good. - But then he said Democrats are anti-children. And I think what he's doing-- - Well, no, I get that that's his viewpoint. - But wait a minute. I mean, fair is fair here. That yes, there is a division in the country on abortion and pro-choice versus pro-life. - And that's what I thought he was referring to. - I understand that, but because somebody is pro-choice, doesn't mean they're anti-child. - I totally agree with you, but that is the viewpoint from a lot of people on the right. That's a cheap trick. - Yeah, well, I agree. - The one thing I will note is that child birth rates in this country are, in fact, down millennials and people younger than that are not having as much kids as generations before them. And that's a problem, right? That's a genuine issue. And I'll just make this personal for myself. When I'm meeting a lady or something for the first time, and if the topic of kids comes up, and they write out the gay say, "Oh, I don't want kids," I raise an eyebrow to that a little bit, especially if they're a young person of child-bearing age kind of. I look at them and I'm like, "Really? You don't want kids? You don't want to spread the seed?" To me, I think having kids is a good thing. I support that. With that said, it's fine if people don't want to have kids. You don't need to, like, badmouthe them the way JD did. However, yes, have kids. That's my opinion anyway. - If somebody chooses not to, doesn't mean they're-- - It doesn't mean any less of American or any less stake in this country at all, of course. - This belief that politics exist, that policy should only be about helping people who have kids is so offensive. - Yeah. - It just is. And again, we're not trying to, we're not pushing any candidate here, but we're just trying to, fair is fair. And-- - Right. - At fair is fair. And you don't denigrate people with kids, and you don't denigrate people who don't have kids, 'cause some people can't, and some people don't want them. Government should be helping all citizens. - Hi, it's Carrington from Houston, Texas, and I just wanted to say, Kesha was not wrong for her comments. This is 2024, we're not living in the Handmaid's Tale, but what I will tell you is, my favorite childless cat lady is Taylor Swift. I need all the Swifties to join childless cat ladies for Harris 2024. - By the way, that's where he's an actual cat lady. That's where he's playing with fire, because if Taylor Swift comes out in support of Kamala Harris, she can animate so many voters that-- - She can actually, and she will actually get them to go vote. - She will get them to go vote, and if she does it, she's gonna use that comment. - Yeah. - Okay, we're gonna move on. - Yes, moving on to Jason Aldine's show last night in Georgia, where, you know, he had a special guest on stage. The problem is that person was not invited, and police were ready for stage crashers during this show. This, yeah, we've said it time and time again. - Rough, if you're not part of the show, do not try to make yourself part of the show, 'cause you're gonna get, well, shown the door. - I just got this. - And it won't always be-- - Call me crazy, but I've got this weird feeling alcohol might be involved here. - No. - You always think it's alcohol. Some people are just crazy people, but I mean, when I first saw this video, at first I kind of was thinking, you know, Jason Aldine has kind of been very, you know, a very staunch Trump supporter, very outspoken. - And then maybe it was a protester? - Maybe it was some type of protester, but the person I spoke to who was there and shot the video said, definitely not. This was a fan who wanted to get close to him. And surprisingly, the person wasn't even arrested. We were told by cops that they just got banned from the arena going forward, but not arrested. - I don't know that there's a crime involved there, because they're-- - They actually harm anyone, right? - Well, they also paid to get in, so it's not trespassing, and-- - But is it not trespassing on the stage? - No, no, no, no, it's just part of the venue. No, they can throw you out, but I don't think it's a crime. - Right, which is-- - I'm not suggesting people do this, by the way. - I think you just sort of gave them a playbook. Way to go, counselor, oops. - Hi, TMZ, it's Rachel Court from Scottsdale, Arizona, and I'm just surprised that there wasn't more space between the stage and where the fans are, like where security can kind of prevent this from happening. Considering Jason's track record and his association with Trump, I mean, I'm glad that it wasn't a person who was protesting or somebody who could have been violent, but probably somebody who's drunk just having too much fun, but I'm just surprised that security didn't catch him beforehand. (upbeat music) - Well, as the Olympics kick off, we've heard a lot of talk from people in Paris, from politicians, the mayor talking about what a boon this was gonna be for the city of Paris. - Boon or a bust? - Well, it's feeling kind of busty right now, not so boony because, and not a good way. (laughing) - That was good. - Because they are, the numbers don't look good right now for Paris, and we're laughing about it. Actually, it's easy for us to laugh about it 'cause we don't live in Paris, but-- - Although, it's coming to us next. - Coming to LA, and the big question now is, hosting the Olympics really the big financial gain that a lot of cities think it's gonna be. Right now, it doesn't feel like it for Paris, so joining us to follow the money, and we're following euros, actually, should it be? - Follow the euros. - Follow the euros. Damon John from Shark Tank. Damon, what's going on, man? - You know, everything's good, everything's gross over here, and I'm not sure about when it comes to LA, but I'm actually stumped on this, if anybody wants to know the numbers really quick. Paris is going to spend approximately $15 billion on the Olympics. They expect it to generate $12 billion in business, but that doesn't mean that Paris itself will get the $12 billion. They're gonna tax the $12 billion, so I think that it probably will get about $4 billion, so that's really a bad P&L sheet, if you think about it. - Yes, yeah. - But what about the advertising? - Well, yeah, I mean, advertising can make up some, but here's what I was thinking all along here, Damon, tell me if I'm wrong here, that Paris is such a destination for people around the world to travel to, especially during the summer. So you got these people who might ordinarily go, but now they're thinking the plane flights are really expensive now. The hotels are insanely expensive. Everybody's hiking their price, so I'm gonna go to Italy instead of, guys, excuse me, I have to take this call. It's a really important story. Charles, take it away. - But yes, you understand the same. St. Charles, you know, and I looked into that. Air France says their flights are 40 million dollars in place, 'cause people are like, I'm not going on Paris or this time. The peak hotels or the peak prices are cut in half. But you know, I think, Charles, for some of the rest to think about is that Paris has had some social issues. I think a lot of people are like, hey, I'm not sure about one of the Paris. I think that a lot of the ones who are normally go, they would say, hey, I'll come back the next year, but is it introducing people to Paris again, a new generation, a new person who didn't go? Is it saying it's okay to come here? I, you know, this is a tough one. What do you think, Charles? - It's a lost leader, right? So they're not gonna make the money right now. They're not gonna make it this summer, but the whole game serves as an advertisement for Paris. So the millions of people who are watching around the world will say, oh, you know what? I wanna go visit Paris. I've never been to Paris. It looks lovely. Let's go. I think that's what most cities that are hosting the Olympics. That's what they hope it is, right? It's a big billboard for the tourism board. - It's an investment. And I think that when we think about politicians, remember what politicians are, they are our lives. So what are they saying right now? It's an easy one for me. Listen, I voted for it, but the people over there are not running it well enough. So I got your back and they're knowing that they're gonna make money way down the road. Or they go, I didn't vote for it and I told you so. Either way, they're just full of beauty, right? That's the problem 'cause they're drumming up this thing to hold their position. But again, I think this is an investment. You know, you think of Paris now. Listen, I still think of Atlanta. I still think of all the cities that the Olympics were. I think it introduces people or reintroduces them to one of the most beautiful cities in the world. It's a tough one though, because at the end of the day, it comes out of the taxpayer's dollars that people do feel the pinch. They won't say to you four years down the road, wow, we're doing great because of four years ago. Really tough one, it's a tough one. That's why I don't like to be in politics because you screwed one way or another. - Here's one thing that we are thinking about here in LA, Damon. And I don't know what the numbers look like for people who are, who have Airbnb's, but I know a lot of people in LA are thinking, oh, this is gonna be great. When the Olympics come here, I'm gonna rent out my house and I'm gonna make however many thousands of dollars from people staying in my house. Is that market still something that's there for people if you live in a host city? - That market 100% is there, you know, over and all the people that are working, that is there. But if you look at it from a financial standpoint, those people will make money again. If you spend $10 billion on, from the city standpoint, and you bring in $10 billion worth of income, it's not $10 billion back. It's the taxes that were paid on the 10 billion. You're still at a 50% loss. But yes, a lot of people are gonna be excited. They're gonna invest in infrastructure and various other things. So I think for the long play is probably gonna be better at the end of the day. - All right, well, Damon, listen, when the Olympics come here, I got a place for you. I got a room, give you a good deal. - Huh? - Oh, you're trying to get me already. I like you thinking four years ahead. - Yeah, exactly, I'm jumping in early. Damon, thanks a lot. We'll see you next week, man. - You gotta be. (upbeat music) - Boy, I had to see this coming, right? After FBI director Christopher Ray testified on Capitol Hill that he was still uncertain whether Donald Trump was struck by a bullet or shrapnel or glass that he just, we're not sure yet. Well, Donald Trump, of course, is sure. He has always maintained that a bullet ripped tore through his ear. So he got on Truth Social and tore through Director Ray. This is what he had to say about that testimony. FBI director Christopher Ray told Congress yesterday that he wasn't sure if I was hit by shrapnel glass or a bullet, the FBI never even checked. No, it was, unfortunately, a bullet that hit my ear and hit it hard. There was no glass, there was no shrapnel. The hospital called it a bullet wound to the ear and that is what it was. - We told you this yesterday, but an hour after the assassination attempt, we put up a story that we had talked to somebody who was in touch with high-level people of the Secret Service and they told us, we talked about this yesterday, Charles, three things, that there were two people in the hospital and that checked out the shooter. And that wasn't out yet, that the Secret Service had taken out the shooter, which wasn't out yet. And the third thing we were told was he was hit by glass that had shattered. And the weird thing about that, this was an hour after and I'm not saying that is what happened. What I'm saying is we got that via somebody who was talking to the Secret Service and we got that an hour after, why would the Secret Service just say that if they didn't have some reason to say it? - Well, certainly, Director Ray's testimony made a lot of people think, hmm, and obviously that is what Donald Trump is pissed off about. I mean, either way, they shot at him. - Yeah, they definitely shot at him. - I gotta agree with Trump on this. If you're the director of the Secret Service, and the Secret Service, and the FBI, and their testimony just sucked, how are you the director of the FBI and you don't know? - But there's something, there's some reason Ray said that and some reason we got that. And by the way, ultimately, it doesn't matter. Somebody tried to kill him and almost did. And that really is the issue. By the way, we have a documentary that's dropping Sunday on 2B. It's called TMZ Presents Under Fire, the Trump assassination attempt. And we get into what happened minute by minute. And also, we really get into the failure of the Secret Service. We talk with former Secret Service agents. It is really fascinating. So, 2B on Sunday. Okay, what else do you guys want to talk about? - Hi, I'm T-Rex from Foley in Gulf Shores, Alabama. And I want to come in on the Olympics. There's an APB out, Anti-Pimper Brigade. It looks like it's pretty stretch-folded. So, we've been going for the gold and cracking down. And we could have used that in the post. - I just want to give you props here. Charles and I were talking about what headline we used yesterday. And Charles came up with Voule vous-couche. Yours is better. - Yeah. - APB, I like it. - I appreciate that. - Anti-Pimper. - That's good. - That is good. - That is good. - Okay, one more. - Hi, this is Darren Green. I'm in Jersey. This is why a lot of people in real life do not have friends, because they don't know the difference between platonic and non-platonic relationships. I definitely agree with Oprah when she said that people are just not accustomed to, you know, two girls being close friends. You could say the same thing with guys. I mean, I just never thought it was that serious. And if that was the case, then why is it, you know? - I think that guys are invested in them. I mean, people are interested in them. (upbeat music) - Fans have been wanting this for almost, 100 years, it feels like it. And it is finally happening. Freaky Friday to Lindsay Lohan and Jamie Lee Curtis. And they are actually out on the streets in downtown LA on Thursday, shooting some scenes. - And they were having a blast. You can just see it. - They were actually there in a really cool car. - Oh, I love. - And you can now pick the car. - Okay, it's Pontiac, right? - It's a Pontiac GTO. - There we go. - It's a GTO, I think. - Is it? - Yeah. - Am I right? - It looks like a GTO to me. - I am not sure. - Jamie's behind the wheel, Lindsey riding shotgun, and look, they have a PA out there with the umbrella. - It's been hot, you know. Name a GTO song. - A GTO song? - Mm-hmm. - Did Jan and Dean do one? - A little GTO, right? - Mm-hmm. - Well, it was Jan and Dean, right? - Yep. - Okay, have a good weekend, everybody. (upbeat music)
