(upbeat music) - Welcome to TMZ Live, Harvey Levin here. - Charles here. - So Oprah really opened up about weight and about how it impacted her life, especially back in the day. Remember the time when she rolled out that wagon full of fat showing, this is how much weight I've lost. - One of the most iconic moments from the Oprah show. - It really is. - It really is. Well, she explained the downside to all of this, what happened right after that show. - This is sort of the, she talked about that, bringing out the wagon a few months ago when she was talking about weight loss drugs. But now here's the other side of the story. She did say that she put on some more weight after that, immediately after that. But how did it impact her life? She was on the Jamie Kern Lee Michaud, Jamie's a cosmetics entrepreneur. And she explained that once she put that weight back on, it stopped her from going to social events. One in particular stands out in her mind, all these years later, must've been a hell of a party that she missed, because she's still thinking about it. But here's what she had to say about the party and just about all the talk about her weight and how it's impacted her. - Even though I pulled out the wagon effect and in 1988 and I didn't have a morsel of food for five solid months in losing that weight on OptiFAST, that three days later, I was five pounds heavier. And a week later, I was 10 pounds heavier. The week before Christmas, I remember Don Johnson, the Don Johnson of Miami Vice was having a party and it invited me and some members of my show to come and I wouldn't go because I thought I was too fat to go. For 25 years, every single week in one form or another, there was a tabloid story or some exploitation of my weight. Making fun of my weight was national sport for 25 years. - Wow, that is powerful, I gotta say. That is, I mean, I've been 36 years since that party and yet she is really stuck with her that and that's the one thing she's talking about. You know, there must have been several other social engagements that we didn't go to. - Of course, but also just saying, when you hear her say that it was a national sport, what can't deny it? - You cannot deny it. What's interesting is she, and I'm not saying this as a criticism because I think it's the exact opposite. She was very open on her show about the weight and the wagon was just kind of a demonstration about her weight loss. So, you know, it's like she's talking about weight on her show and that's a gimmick, but instead of like understanding what she was doing, what it ended up being was just an outright attack on her weight. - And she went on to talk about some of the jokes that people made or some of the skits that were where she was the butt of the joke. She said that one of the worst ones was in living color. They did a skit where a woman was doing something and she just kept eating and eating and eating and getting bigger and bigger and bigger until she exploded and that was insinuating that that was what was gonna happen to Oprah. You know, the commentary about around Oprah's weight have been going on for so long, even down to this year where she opened up about having to use weight loss drugs and having to step away from Weight Watchers because of that. And it just sucks that, you know, she's been having to deal with this for now decades on decades on decades. No woman wants to feel like they have to, you know, watch their weight, not for themselves, but for the world. - I don't think she's saying that watching her weight was what dogged her so much as the criticism and the sport. - Oh, but I think because of the criticism in the sport, she felt like she had to watch her weight, had to do things where she was on a liquid diet for however many weeks. Maybe, but she really made her weight an issue on the show. - See, this is like what came first, the chicken or the egg. - Yeah, I know. - But I can't remember now going back to that point. - I can't either. - Right now, when you hear her talk about it, it feels like the reason she talked about it is because it was a tabloid headline. - Hello, my name is Carissa, and I'm from Bloomingdale, Illinois. And honestly, I think Oprah's just at this point where if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Celebrities are being open now more than ever about weight loss struggles, how it's affected their mental health. And it's been her time. I think she wants to reclaim some of that narrative and just address the elephant in the room that people have been talking about for years. - Well, they've been talking about it, but also she's been talking about it. And I do think, like, I know, but is she talking about it because other people are talking about it? Or other people are talking about it because she was talking about it. - I can't answer that question. What I can say is, no, I can't answer it. What I can say is that when I hear her talking about a liquid diet for five months, and then you hear ozempic, again, I don't know what the long-term side effects are for ozempic, but it sure seems like a better way of living, a way better way of living than having to do liquid diet, right? Okay, we gotta move on. - Yes, to Justin Timberlake, I don't know, obviously, he could not have planned it this way, but after his DWI arrest, he had his shows in Chicago last weekend, and it is pretty good timing for him that his shows now are in New York City, where his wife happens to be working. So he got a very solid show of support from Jessica Beale when he performed at Madison Square Garden last night. (upbeat music) (crowd cheering) (upbeat music) - Well, she had good seats. - Yeah. - How did she get the seats? - I don't know. - She didn't tell somebody. I wonder if it feels to her like he's singing to her in those moments, but everybody was looking at her during the show because you wanted to see a reaction. You wanted to see a reaction. There were a lot of stories that she was upset with him because it was embarrassing. - I gotta tell ya. I'm sure she was upset with him. I'm sure she's saying, why'd you do that? - But to over blow it, look, he did something that was really bad. I mean, you are not supposed to get behind the wheel and I know that they haven't had a trial yet, but for crying out loud, he blew a stop sign, he was swerving, flunked the field sobriety test, refused the breathalyzer, clearly he had something to drink there. - He admits having at least one drink. - Whatever the reason, but it's also not one of those things that upends a marriage. And I think it just got so overblown. - I agree it doesn't, because it ended the way it did. And this is always the topic that comes up when you talk about a DWI arrest. Yes, he was fortunate that it ended with, he wasn't hurt, nobody else was hurt. - But it could've been. - But it could've been, right? Because it wasn't, it's not the biggest thing. It's not gonna upend their marriage and clearly showed it right in this corner. - And her singing to this song, it's called until the end of time, very, very interesting for her to be belting out the lyrics because any JT fan knows of this song, like he says, please forgive me, I've made mistakes, we'll be together forever, I love you. It talks about, this is kind of like when art imitates life because it seems so relevant now than just like, oh, another song on JT's album. It almost seems like he could be saying this about this specific moment. And like you said, Charles, there's been a lot of reports that she's upset. I mean, it's gotta be stressful here, she's trying to film, she's trying to get back into acting. And then this chaos happens when she is trying to like focus on her career. So I'm sure it hasn't been super easy on her, but for her to be there supporting so publicly, she's trying to say something to the audience. - So Gayle King actually jumped to Justin's defense. What she said, I think is really interesting. I don't agree completely with the way it's put, but I found it super interesting. - I said, I don't see him to be an irresponsible person. - Right. - I don't, but I also, I was in no way saying drunk driving is okay, and I also made that clear. But nobody picked up on the rest of the sentence. But I don't think, I don't consider him reckless or irresponsible, was that a bad thing? Did he make a huge mistake? Yes, I think he acknowledged that. But we're always so quick to cancel and criticize any time somebody makes a big mistake. I'm just sort of tired of that, that's all. I can't even say that he and I are great friends, but I just think he made a mistake, it was long and he knows that. But do I think of him as reckless and irresponsible? Generally speaking, there are other people I do. I wouldn't put him in that category, that's always saying, but I'm never ever, ever excusing drunk driving. - I love what she said. First of all, I think cancel culture is over. But I love her strength in which, in the way she's saying, I'm surrounded by her defense of him. - And I love the fact that she said, look, he is not generally an irresponsible or reckless person. I get that. At the same time, I know she said drunk driving is bad. Drunk driving is irresponsible and reckless. But that doesn't mean, hold on, but that doesn't mean somebody generally is irresponsible and reckless. - But they do it. - Well not, right. I mean, he engaged in the irresponsible and reckless conduct that night. But that doesn't mean he's generally an irresponsible and reckless person. So all I'm saying is-- - So you were doing it repeatedly. - Or other things that are irresponsible and reckless. That is irresponsible and reckless. That doesn't make him generally an irresponsible-- - You don't have to be a reckless person. - One off or repeated behavior. - Exactly. That's the only thing I wanted to quibble with, but I love her strength in which she says strength. Strength is arms. - All right, Zach from Los Angeles. I think when it comes to Jessica Beale, like if anything, she's proving that she's a real one. Like that's a ride or die. That's who you want by your side in a situation like that. And she believes that her man is bringing sexy back, handcuffs at all. And I don't disagree with her, but when it comes to Gayle King, I also see her position in the sense that, like I hate that people want to cancel her now for not immediately wanting to cancel him, but she never condone his actions. She was merely speaking to his character, which I think is a valid position to take. - Anybody who wants to cancel Gayle King for saying that needs to get a life. I mean, come on. (upbeat music) - Britney Spears and her sons, Jane James and Sean Preston, have been estranged for many years now. But Britney is made clear she wants to have a relationship and there is-- - She's gone back and forth. - I mean, when the kids-- - The kids, where she's railed in the kids, right. - But there is a little bit of thawing that has happened. You know that the kids are now living in Hawaii with their dad, Kevin and his wife, Victoria, but they moved there last year and they haven't seen each other, but they did have some communication. So what we found out is that on Mother's Day, the boys actually called Britney Spears. This is a different story from what you might have heard. There was a story out there last week that they have reconciled and that everything they're all getting along now. - Britney's gone to Hawaii a couple of times this year. She supposedly saw the kids didn't happen. She did not see the kids. - It's still not the kids. - The only communications really been this Mother's Day. - Which I think is a good sign that they would make a call to her. - It is a good sign, but look, this is a very difficult situation. Britney has a mental illness that has caused a lot of disruption between her and her kids. And again, you know, a lot of this is just the mental illness acting out, but there have been a lot of things that have been going on behind the scenes, some of which have become public, made the kids very uncomfortable, and that's why they haven't seen her in around three years. They haven't really communicated other than this Mother's Day call. They are keeping the door open. They'd like to make this work. - And that's why I said, the reason I say that I think this is a good sign is that you gotta remember that Sean Preston is now 18. Shaden is 17. So they can make decisions on their own now. - They can make decisions, and the fact that they actually did reach out to our mother's day, I think speaks to what you were told that. They want to make it work. It's just not gonna happen right away at this point. - And guys, the report that she had been going to Hawaii to see the boys didn't really totally make sense because whenever Britney leaves LA, she always gets photographed. In fact, we've seen it. We've gotten tons of paparazzi agency photos over the last several months of Britney going to Mexico, where we know that, you know, she's been spending a lot of time with her brother, Brian. Her and Brian seem to be getting along really well right now. It seems to be the only family member that she's spending time with more than any of the other ones. - Yes, yes, it's lost me on us. Yes, it is. - Go on, Brandon, I'm sorry. - Yes. - No, that's okay. - I want to point out his knowledge of Mexican resorts. - Yeah, no, and we know, I mean, Britney does spend a lot of time in Hawaii, but if she had gone to Hawaii, we would have totally gotten pictures over there. - So we talked to one source who is in the know on this and said that one of the reasons that there's kind of this standstill in that relationship is that the way it was put was that there have been so many years of aberrant behavior that it is hard to reset that. And the problem right now is, I mean, there was a story out in one of the media outlets about how great the resolution has been for Britney. No, it has not been great for Britney. She is not doing well, and it's the mental illness that now is not really being monitored by anybody but her. And you're putting her in charge of her own mental well-being when she isn't the one that can really make the decisions on should I be taking my drugs today? Should I be going to the therapist and art? And she's been suffering as a result of this. So these stories that are coming out, oh, everything has now resolved itself with the conservatorship and everything's fine. No, it's not. - My name is Dr. Domenico. I am from New Jersey. And when I hear this story, I think about how it's a multi-step process leading to the reunification process and rebuilding connection. Because you're dealing with the need to rebuild trust. You're dealing with the need to rebuild the feelings of safety emotionally and physically. And the prescription for wellness that I have for the family is more time together between Britney and the kids to rebuild that connection. That may need to involve a third party because this may just be bigger than the three of them. - Yeah, the problem with that though, is when she is going through it, it's hard to keep everything between the lines as we've seen. That's a tough thing to do. So you bring them all together. And if she goes-- - One thing has to be dealt with before. - Exactly. - We can bring all of them together. - Exactly. Okay, we're gonna move on. - Yes, to former Patriots coach Bill Belichick and his romance, which people just want to hear everything about for obvious reasons. - Well, the stuff we didn't know until today, that shocked me. - Right, the fact that the coach and his girlfriend, Jordan Hudson, have actually been living together. And not just for a month, six months. - Yeah, yeah guys. - Six months? - Sources close to the couple tell us that she moved in roughly right around the new year. So Harvard Year Point, it was around January, December, which was about six months ago. And we're told they've been absolutely inseparable since. So they moved into his Hingham, Massachusetts residence. He has a bunch of residents all over Nantucket in Massachusetts area. But this is kind of one of their main ones. And she has moved in. They are spending time together. And we're told like, it's rare that they go more than three days apart from each other. So this is not simply 72 year old, 23 year old Cole, look at me, trophy, whatever. This is like a real deal thing. They are moved in, they hang out all the time. We're actually described as best friends. They were described as best friends to me too. Like that's how close they are. So it's a big deal. It's not something that people should be joking about anymore. You know what I mean? - Why are you doing that? - Why are you doing this? - Every time I just, because I... - No, but why are you doing this? - Every time the photo of them on the plane, every time we put it up, I just go like, yeah, they're best friends. But guess what? A lot of people say they're best friends is they're parents. And this just feels like a parent. I'm not not, look, Bill Belichick, do your thing. I'm not a hater of love. - No, but people judge that. - I'm not a hater of love. That's fine, if it works for them, then I've added. We don't matter as long as they're happy. - He won't stutter in the next segment, I promise. - I'm Kimberly Bryant from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. And I mean, absolutely no shade, I promise. But I mean, she looks like she could be his sweet granddaughter. Like really. - I get it, but so what? I mean, if it works and they're happy, what skin is it off anybody's teeth? I mean, honestly, and they seem really happy. So there. (upbeat music) - Well, we are just about 24 hours away from the first debate, first presidential debate between President Biden and former President Donald Trump. I guess you could say this is the official start for the battle for the future of America. And which way are we gonna go? The question is everyone kind of, we know what we're pretty much know what you're gonna get with Donald Trump, right? - Well, there are two versions and they're not sure which version is gonna show up on stage. Maybe both, yeah. I think you're probably gonna get a little bit of both, a little column A, a little column B. The question is how does President Biden respond to that? Should he respond to Donald Trump directly or just stick to his talking points? Someone who knows a lot about preparing for debates is someone who's been in the White House. John Ferro is a former speech writer for President Obama and he is also a podcaster, a pod save America. He's also an author. We're gonna talk to him about his book because actually I think the contents of his book have a lot to do with what the candidates are gonna be putting out tomorrow night. So joining us right now, John Ferro, author of Democracy or Else. John, welcome to TMZ Live. - Hey, John. - Thanks for having me, guys. - We love having you on. So I am fascinated by this. I have been watching lots and lots and lots of TV over the last two weeks and everybody's saying that Biden is hunkered down at Kemp David and going over issues and they're talking about how to deal with the economy and everything else. Help me out here because I think this goes beyond specific issues. I know they're gonna ask about issues but I think people have cemented their positions on issues and this has more to do with the person than it does the policy. - Presentation. - Am I wrong here? - No, you're not wrong at all. I mean, I prepared President Obama for his debates, for his reelection in 2012 against Mitt Romney. Obviously the first one didn't go so well. But the debate prep, it includes some discussion about issues but a lot of it is about the candidate's performance. And so we had mock debates. We had someone playing Mitt Romney. We had someone playing the moderator. We would go over not just issues but lines of attack, how he, zingers, lines that he needed to use, things he needed to be ready for. So I'm sure Joe Biden is doing the same thing. Ron Clean is running his debate prep. He ran Obama's debate prep as well. And there at Camp David and they have a whole mock debate set up so it looks like just like the real stage and someone's playing Donald Trump as well. - So the person playing Donald Trump in this prep, I would imagine they have like sort of playbook A and playbook B because everyone's wondering, you know, you're gonna get, like I said, I think it's gonna be a little bit of both. - Is it a disciplined or a rogue Donald Trump? - Right, who's just complaining about everything that's happened to him making self-evictum and talking about all his grievances as opposed to policies or are you gonna get a little bit of the presidential or at least what people would hope would be presidential someone talking about policy. - Yeah, you gotta prepare for both. But I also think your strategy can't depend on requiring one or the third to show up because like there's gonna be an overall strategy for Joe Biden, which I think he wants people to also leave this debate thinking that Joe Biden is someone who is fighting for people and Donald Trump is someone who is only fighting for himself. And that's a strategy that works, whether it's a disciplined Donald Trump, whether it's crazy Donald Trump. I mean, you know, my guess is all of Donald Trump's advisors are trying to prepare him to be as disciplined as possible. I think Donald Trump knows that that's important as well. Will he be able to maintain that discipline? Seems unlikely, but who knows? Either way, even if he's disciplined for 90 minutes, Joe Biden can still point out all of the horrible things Donald Trump did as president and all the things he has proposed to do if he gets another four years and sort of remind people that this is the guy who tried to steal the last election, incited an insurrection on the Capitol and pretty dangerous to be a president for the next four years. So I think that's gonna be, yeah, that's gonna be Joe Biden's main goal. - John, I don't think you would toot your own horn this way, but seems like maybe you would send a copy of your book over to the prep team over at Camp David, seeing as how the title is, democracy or else how to save America in 10 easy steps. Any chance that happened? (laughing) - You know what? He's got a very smart prep team in place. I think they know what they're doing. We wrote this book because give me a lot of nervous people walking the debate on Thursday night, but at the end of the day, there's not much we can do to control how Joe Biden does. There is a lot we can do to control the outcome of the selection, especially because it's so close, especially because it was only decided by 40,000 votes across three swing states in 2020. And the upside of a closely divided electorate is that every person who volunteers, every person who knocks on doors, makes calls, donates what they can and gets involved in politics, that can make an even bigger difference than an election where the electorate isn't as closely divided. And so our book is about how politics, it may be frightening and confusing to watch. It's a spectator, but it's not frightening and confusing to actually participate in. In fact, it can be fun and it can be impactful and it can really be fulfilling. And that's the experience that me and Tommy Vitor and John Lovett had who wrote the book. We were all in the Obama campaign, we were in the White House, we've been in politics for many years. And even when there are setbacks, even when there are disappointments, even when politics is infuriating, being involved is actually a lot of fun and can be really inspiring. And it's the only way to actually save democracy. So we're trying to help people figure out how to get involved and that's why we wrote the book. - Okay, all right. God, thank you so much for coming on. This was great. Really, really, really appreciate it. Just about to get interested. - Thank you very much. - And congrats on the book. - Thank you, thank you. Democracy else and all the proceeds go to Vote Safe America. It's helping grassroots organizations help save democracy. So pick up a copy. - Thank you, John. Thanks, John. Really appreciate it. It's gonna be interesting tomorrow. - Yes, it is. - What? - For the next four months. - Yes, sir. (upbeat music) - Welcome back to TMZ Live. It is one of the most coveted jobs in all of sports to be the head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers and JJ Redick, former player himself, has been named the new coach of the Lakers. He had a big press conference the other day where he talked about getting this job. A really shining moment for a guy that largely most people in the NBA say, it's a really great guy. So no sooner do you have that great moment for yourself that someone comes along and tries to chop you down in a big way because JJ Redick was a star in college at Duke and someone came forward and said that they had an experience with him while on campus that was anything but a nice guy. According to Halima, she was a student at Duke as well involved with the basketball team and she posted this saying that I've only been called the N word to my face by a white man once in my life. It was on the campus of Duke University while I was doing work with the basketball team. And today he was named the new head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, What a World. This came out of left field, pardon the phrase, but everyone was like, wait, what? - It's odd Charles because he obviously and JJ Redick obviously had a really long career in the NBA. It's not like he has, he's been, you know, kind of fell off the face of the earth for the last 15 years. He's been around. So a lot of people question why it did just come out now the day after he has the biggest day in his professional career. - Right, he's been a name as a player. - Right. - So why wouldn't she have come forward as well? - Yeah, he's got a podcast with LeBron James, Charles. I know you know, so yeah, he's been around. Bottom line is JJ Redick's people say this did not happen. So Lucas spoke with one of his reps yesterday and there was a quote, it was short and sweet but no question to it. No, it never happened. - That's an interesting way of responding. Sometimes short is better and you know, if it was his long thing. But I do have one question. Are they saying that they don't know her at all that JJ has never encountered her? 'Cause she says that she was working with the team. So I would imagine they've had some interaction in that sense. - Yeah, I don't think that's up for debate. I think most people agree they know each other. As a matter of fact, we just talked to Chris Duhan who was a famous teammate of JJ Redick at Duke and Duhan told us that he knows this woman and obviously he knows JJ. So I don't think anyone disagrees that she was around the Duke program and around JJ Redick. It's just, did he make that comment? - Has she ever amplified, I mean, since he's came out and said what the discussion was that led him to? - No, she has not. We've really been trying to reach her since yesterday to try and get the context. What happened? How did he say it? She has not responded to us yet. So I think that's a question everyone wants to know. - Yeah, I mean, if she had some more context around it, there would be, I think more of a discussion, but at this point, if she's not gonna offer anything more right and he's saying it never happened, maybe that's the end of it. But I have a feeling that now that he's denied it, maybe she is gonna offer some more context. I don't know, unless what he's saying is true, that it just never happened. - Hi, this is Melissa from Haiti. And here's how I feel. If JJ said it, he should own up to it and say, I said it, and this is a good learning opportunity for him to understand why that term is unacceptable and get into the history of it and understand why it's derogatory. Now, if she is falsely accusing him, because since he's denying it and she's saying he said it, there's 50% chance that it is true, 50% chance that it's a lie. So now if she is saying, if she's lying on him, she needs to understand how damaging it could be to falsely accuse someone. So I think there needs to be accountability on either side and we need to get to the bottom of this. - How do you do that when there's just one person saying and another person denying it? - That's a very good question. And I think that's why we need to get more context from her since she's the one saying he said it and he's denying it. So we need to understand what happened. - If she is making up, and I don't know, I heard both sides, but if she's making it up, it is an incredibly defamatory thing for him as a head coach in the NBA. I mean, he's been a player in the NBA, but now he's the head coach of a team. I mean, it harkens back to Donald Sterling, really, who was the owner of a team and was using language like that and you saw what the NBA did to him. So... - That was also one. - And if she... - It was an audio. - Right. - And that's very much the difference. - Yes, definitely a difference. I'm just saying, you know, what it could do to JJ's career if she were telling the truth and right now. - We will see because I mean, I guess now the issue is, does she come forward and get more specific? - Right. - Okay, we are gonna move on. - Yes, to a family gathering that is very interesting because of the fact that the mother and father, the head of this family, are headed for divorce. Talking about Kyle Richards and Mauricio Amanski. - I would have jumped in and said you're jumping to conclusions, but I don't think you're joking. - Yeah. - Yeah. They were out together last night. Not just the two of them was the whole family because Mauricio is celebrating his 54th birthday and they had a big dinner at Pat Steak. So this is what they had to say on the way out. It, everyone sounds like, you know, they're getting along, but here was the interaction. - Any birthday wishes for Mauricio. - And just have a very happy birthday. - Thank you. - Mauricio, happy birthday Mauricio. - Thank you, buddy. - Feliscan Planu. - That's a bro. - Gracias, bro. That's so funny. Gracias, bro. - I don't know about you guys, but I mean, this video doesn't really say anything as far as them getting back together. I mean, they've always showed a united front. He obviously has moved out of the house, they're living separately. And you know, obviously they have all the daughters together. So, I mean, of course they're gonna get together with their parents for his birthday, right? I mean, it's nothing like showing-- - We don't know what happened inside the restaurant, but there was no warm interaction between them outside. And look, good on them that whatever their difficulty is they can get along for the sake of the kids. - Hi, I'm Juan from Detroit. And I don't think it's weird that they attended a birthday dinner together. They still technically are husband and wife, and it could have just been like a temporary truce and play nice for the birthday and for the family. - But I think they're not even playing. I think it really is nice. And again, we've seen so much acrimony with so many divorces and just the fact that they can have their disagreements, they had struggles here. - And I'm sure they're both upset that it didn't work out and that it's not working out. But like you said, you've put that aside. - I'm not sure the upset is even. (upbeat music) - Well, Shark Week is coming back. It starts on July 7th. So we've got a little more than a week before it begins, but it is coming at a really coincidentally. There was a shark attack, a fatal shark attack of someone in the surfing community who was really beloved. You may have heard that Tamayo Perry, long-time surfer, and actor was in one of the pirates movies. He was attacked by shark and it was killed. They actually brought him in, he was missing limbs. - And shark attacks are up this year. - The number of shark attacks are up. Now, we hear a lot of times on Shark Week, the experts tell us that you can't be fooled by those numbers. There are so many more incidents where people are not attacked by sharks, even when sharks are around them. So I'm always curious to see what the overall theme is each year when Shark Week comes around, and someone who will definitely know the answer to that, because Paul De Gelder is going to be at the center of five different shows this week when Shark Week begins and he is joining us right now. Paul, welcome to TMZ Live. - Hey, Paul. - Nice to see you guys again. - It's great seeing you. I have a question. Is shark attacks are up this year? And I'm wondering, 'cause we've never really talked about this, how much does climate change have to do with this? - It is one of the aspects that we're looking at this year. I'm doing a show in Sydney Harbour, back to the scene of the crime where I was actually attacked and lost two limbs, and we're looking at the dynamics of the warming ocean currents, climate change, as to whether that is keeping the bull sharks in the harbour longer, causing a situation whereby more people might be coming into contact with them. - So it is not off the realm of possibility. - Is there a particular, I know you mentioned in Sydney Harbour bull sharks, with the increased number of attacks, is there a particular species that is more, that you're seeing more attacks involving? - Yeah, especially along the coast of Florida where people are thinking, oh, I always think big sharks, tiger sharks, hammerheads, great whites. The majority of the bites along the Florida coast up to North Carolina are actually black tip sharks. These small reef sharks that migrate all the way up and down the east coast of America in the thousands. And a lot of the time, you know, they're not being, people aren't being eaten, they're not being really attacked. It's just a bite, they let them go and they swim off. And so that's a lot of the reason why there's an increase in these shark attacks. We call them negative shark interactions if you want to use the terminology correctly. But yeah, there is an increase in bites because more people are going in the ocean. Maybe the temperatures of the water are actually rising, meaning that the sharks are staying in an area for a longer period, basically following the food that are following that migration as well. - So in one of the episodes you're doing, you're going back to where you were attacked. That seems kind of emotionally perilous, was it? - Yeah, it absolutely was. Not something I ever thought I'd be doing again, going back to Sydney Harbour, diving in really murky water. And this time actually looking for the bull sharks and trying to find out whether they're sticking around, what are the numbers like? But it was really emotionally, it was kind of scary. You know, I've got bait with me as well. And it wasn't like we found the sharks, it was more like they found us. - I mean, you seem just fearless to me. You know, just knowing that, you know, you work out, you exercise, you're swimming with sharks. Does anything scare you? I'm really serious, I'm just fascinated by you. - No, really, I think coming so close to death in the way that I did, the absolute terror, pain, being eaten alive by a shark, and then actually surviving, you come to realise that death really doesn't, it's not that scary. It's not as terrifying as you would think it is in those final moments. What was terrifying for me was thinking about, have I done everything in my life that I set out to do? Do I have any regrets? Is there any missed opportunities? And I didn't have any in that first time. - Can't wait to see you in these shows. I know you have John Cena hosting overall hosting Shark Week. Did you get to work with him? But I imagine he doesn't have the fearless feeling that you do in the water. - No, I think it was like when they had the rock on and, you know, they're great at hosting, they're great at bringing in the crowds and the audience that might like John, but might not have ever seen Shark Week. But I'm not sure how comfortable they are in the ocean. You know, we don't have a huge plethora of celebrities on this year's Shark Week. We're focusing back into the investigate-oriented parts of it, looking at why these Mexican diving fishermen are getting attacked by great whites. We're looking at why people being attacked in New Caledonia. There was a big spike in attacks there. All this cool stuff going out to the realms of the Solomon Islands where, you know, these people, these indigenous tribes worship sharks, they keep the skulls of their ancestors in a hut on the islands, and they go out there and pray to them and talk to them. But their whole life is being affected by Chinese commercial fishing, raping the oceans of their food source. And so while it is action, while it's adventure, while it's thrills and spills, there's still an educational element to it that we're trying to teach people about how important these sharks are, why we need to save them, what their value truly is. - Well, I will tell you this, finally. That in Shark Week's past, your former publicist, Laurie Goldberg, would give me a Shark Week t-shirt every year. So all I wear every night, and I swear to you, every nice image is my Shark Week t-shirt. - We don't need this image. - All I wear at night. - Great. - I swear to God. - Thanks. - Mate, that's so comfortable. - They're so good. - It is a pleasure. You are just an amazing guy. Thank you, Paul. - Thanks, Paul. Looking forward to-- - All right. - He's incredible. (upbeat music) - Paris Hilton is not giving up the fight for kids who have been abused in all sorts of scenarios. You know that a few years ago she was in DC testifying about the abuse that she says she endured at a boarding school in Utah. Well, now she went back to DC. She testified this morning in front of Congress talking about kids in the welfare system and what she is trying to do to improve their lives. - I'm working at both the federal and state level to enact change. At the federal level, I want to see Title IVB reauthorized, and I want to see the Stop Institutional Child Abuse Act passed to provide transparency and data collection. At the state level, I have helped to outlaw abusive practices like restraint and seclusion, increased licensing requirements with unannounced site visits, required proper reporting and increased private communication with families and their child so they can report abuse if it's occurring. All of this helps to reform these facilities and I will not stop until all youth are safe. - This is a great thing that she is doing. Obviously a big celebrity voice gets the attention of Congress when other people speak to Congress all the time and it is not picked up by the media including ourselves. So for her to get up there and speak about these issues which are obviously very important she had her own brush with obviously a very different economic system than she deals with, but nevertheless she suffered apparently quite a bit of abuse, the hands of other people raising her and she knows what it's like, especially for poor kids. And so she's out at the forefront of it, it's great. - It is pretty amazing to see Paris Hilton sitting in that scenario, just like it was when she did it a few years ago. Just to show the evolution of Paris Hilton. - Right how far she come from simple life trials and never would have thought she'd be testifying in front of Congress. - But she feels this passionately, it's very clear. - All right, what else do you guys want to talk about? - Yo, yo what up, world is your boy C.L. Checkin' in from Greenberg, New York. Talking about Oprah and I just wanna say it just shows that she's a true grit and a personal survivor because the end of the day it's been a problem for her and she was able to overcome it with a point where she's now a billionaire. So to take all that stress and turn it into gold, shout to Oprah. All right, one more. - Hi, my name is Honor Williams and I'm in New York, New York and I'll be speaking about Justin Timberlake. I'm glad to see that his arrest did not affect his performance at all from the clips that I saw. It definitely looked like he put on a show. I agree with Gayle King that when an artist has one minor slip up in their personal life, I don't think it should take away from their talent. And if I were there, I'd be singing a dance along just like his wife was. - Yeah, the shows are still sold out. - Yeah. - So you can't argue that. By the way, thanks for stepping in. - You're welcome. - Finish us up here. Harvey's just soft gallivanting like he always does. - Yeah. (upbeat music) - Just a warning. I already know that we're definitely gonna get in over our heads here because neither of us know Jack about fashion, but it is definitely what comes to mind when you see Jay-Z and Beyonce hanging out in the Hamptons doing a little summer vacation out doing some boating. I got Jay-Z's fashion there, bucket lid. I got that. - Oh, you're gonna make me do that. - You got bucket lid? Yeah, he's got his cigar looking good. - I like sharp. - Now why don't you do Beyonce? What would you call that, Mike? - She looks great, Charles. It looks like an old school outfit. Like somebody here, a very fashionable man on our staff, Kyle, I think he called it the pre-med men look. - Pre-med men. - Yeah, I can't take credit for it. - You shouldn't take credit. That makes no sense whatsoever. It is more of a '60s sort of, I think Jackie O, maybe, no? Like I said, in over our heads. But hey, they're enjoying summer. They're like, yeah. - You do the same. We'll see you tomorrow. (upbeat music)
