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Celine Dion Shares Devastating Effects Of Stiff-Person Syndrome

On this episode of TMZ Live: The officer who arrested Justin Timberlake pictured enjoying a boat party, Celine Dion shares the devastating effects of Stiff-Person Syndrome in her new documentary, Ariana Grande’s shocking choice for a dream dinner party, and Jennifer Lopez flies commercial!

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Duration:
41m
Broadcast on:
26 Jun 2024
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mp3

On this episode of TMZ Live:

The officer who arrested Justin Timberlake pictured enjoying a boat party, Celine Dion shares the devastating effects of Stiff-Person Syndrome in her new documentary, Ariana Grande’s shocking choice for a dream dinner party, and Jennifer Lopez flies commercial!



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(upbeat music) Welcome to TMZ Live, Harvey Levin here. - Carl Thier. - So we got some photographs of something connected, somebody connected to Justin Timberlake's DWI arrest last week. - I know Justin Timberlake wishes this guy wasn't connected to him, but he is now because he's the guy who pulled over Justin and brought him in for DWI. His name is Officer Michael Arkinson of the SAG Harbor Police Department. - And there he is. - He has become a big time celebrity out on Long Island because everyone, once the details came out about the arrest, wanna know who is this guy who didn't know who Justin Timberlake is. - So he is 24 years old, which should help kind of explain this. But remember, Justin kind of now famously said, "This is gonna ruin or derail my world tour." And she said, "What tour?" - That's right. So this young man, young strapping man here, did not apparently know who Justin Timberlake was, had no idea what tour he was referring to. All he knew was that he suspected that JT had been drinking and driving and he hauled him into jail. Here he is about an hour north of SAG Harbor over the weekend, hanging out with friends, enjoying himself, seemingly enjoying a beverage, maybe an alcoholic beverage. There's a shot there where he looks like he's like maybe drinking a beer or something. And he's out and about, and just like Charles said, he's kind of a local celebrity now. And it doesn't look like he's trying to really lay low. But granted, we've tried contacting this guy to talk to him, turned off his phone, he's scrubbed to social media. So it seems like on digitally online, he's kind of sort of trying to be anonymous. Unfortunately for him, the media's blown up his identity and people there in Long Island certainly know who he is. And yeah, he's kind of enjoying himself during the summer. - Yeah, and there's, by the way, there's no reason to hide. 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But that's a lot. That just is a lot. - My name is Helena and I'm from Florida and I think Travis did the perfect audible when it came to answering those questions because guess what? It's about him now. Who even cares about the exits? Who was it? What was it? I don't even know who it was. I think he did an amazing job and he is a part of the act now. - You have just convinced me that women and guys totally did. - We noticed it this morning in the morning meeting. - We totally did. - It went right down party lines. The new Amazon Prime documentary Celine Dion. It's actually called I Am Celine Dion. And it is out today. And Celine has done a lot of interviews talking about this, about why she made this. And it was very interesting to hear her talk about it and about her efforts to get back on stage and perform as she's battling stiff person syndrome. But none of what she has said in all these interviews I think makes it clear what she's going through as what you're about to see. - So this, what you're about to see, we're only going to show you a small portion of it. This is 10 minutes long. - Is it 10 minutes seen from the documentary? - She is having a seizure as a result of her body seizing up from stiff person syndrome. It is hard to watch. We should tell you, you may or may not want to watch this. She wants people to see it to create some awareness for what she and others are going through. - We're going to go a couple more minutes, okay? If nothing changes, we're going to give you the nasal spur. Okay. Do you have pain? Squeeze my hand if you have pain. Squeeze my hand if you have pain. Okay. Okay. So there. Now she's breathing out normally. - I'm just on that 91, 118. - The nasal spray is going in at 7.28. - 128. - 128. - Now. - Oh. - It is, do you heard them say that they're giving her the nasal spray at 7 minutes, 28 seconds. The whole seizure lasted at least what they show in the documentary is a 10 minute scene. - It is just. - And heart wrenching to see this. And this is what she's been going through because it's not just this one incident. This is her life. And we've talked about this before. Think about getting a terrible cramp in your leg. She gets that in her whole body and it can last hours. Think about just that can last hours. And it just seems unbearable what she's going through. - It is difficult to watch that, you're right. But I honestly, I have so much respect for her for doing this. It's kind of like to me, like, you know what, Michael J. Fox has done about Parkinson's. - Yeah. - By being so open and transparent about it, it removes a lot of the stigma, it educates people because, you know, one of the things Celine said is that when these episodes happen, she feels embarrassed. And it's so preposterous that she should feel embarrassed about that. But anybody probably would. You feel like your body's betraying you. Like, you shouldn't be this way. And I think by her putting this out there as hard as it is to watch, people should because it sort of normalizes not just stiff person syndrome, but anybody who's going through something physical like that, they can't help it. You know, I think it helps people have sympathy and awareness of it. - I mean, I think people had a lot of sympathy before they saw any of this. But to watch what she's going through. - And to understand what it is. - Because you're right. - It's one thing you just read stiff person syndrome. - Exactly. - You're so right when you said she's gone, done all these interviews. Seeing it brings this to a point. - And hearing what she's going through. - Yeah. - And, you know, Eric, to your point, that she says in the documentary that she feels embarrassed at the end of each of these episodes that she's having. And yet, she has cameras there that she wanted there. So, although she's embarrassed, she's fighting through that for a greater cause. - It's so commendable. - You know, Eric, I know you've seen this over the years. When you look at singers, especially where, you know, they're all made up and they have, you know, gowns and all that there's a degree of vanity that you think is kind of their essence. But it's all stripped away. And she is so authentic. And that's what one of the things that really strikes me about this. - And sometimes because of that, that glamour, I think the rest of us sort of forget they're real people. And this is a very real thing, no matter how successful or talented or famous she is. She's still a person, and this is something she's going through and dealing with, and lots of other people are too. So it's, again, I commend her for putting it out there and exposing it that way. - Hi, I'm Esmaralda, and I'm in Green Bay, Wisconsin. And I think it's very brave of her that she's putting this in her documentary. And I didn't even know Stiff Person Syndrome existed, as sad as it is to see her this way. Like, I wish her the best. I'm so glad she's doing this. I've always seen her smiling or out and about whatever the media shows. And I would have never known that this is something she's going through. So I wish her the best. - By the way, I think you are not alone. I didn't know what people didn't know it was. I had no idea. And I think the other part of seeing this is it will make it so much, that much more triumphant when she does get back on a stage and forms as she says she will. - To know where she was. - Yeah, okay. We are going to move on. - Yes, moving over to Paris. So we told you that Jennifer Lopez is there. - I think we're starting in Florence. - Well, we are going to start in Florence. This is her at Paris Fashion Week event. - Fair. - But how she got there is what the story really is, because Jennifer Lopez, who is, we don't see her on planes because she flies private. But now we are because she flew commercial. I know this sounds ridiculous to be like, wow, Jennifer Lopez flew commercial, but we just don't see this. And it happened on her way from Florence to Paris. - Now, European Airlines, they have this thing. She's in business class. - Yeah. - And they have this thing where nobody occupies the middle seat if you're in business, and that's what happened here. Her bodyguards in the aisle, she's at the window. - Her handbags in the middle. - And her handbags in the middle. - Very large handbags. - It's like a two and a half hour flight. But yeah, I mean, we don't see her on commercial planes because it seems she mostly flies private. - Yeah, she flies private. - I have a good theory on why she's flying in a commercial plane. I don't know this to be true, but just putting the pieces together. Or toward didn't go super well. Her movies haven't been a hit. She also, of course, is going with this whole fall of her marriage with Ben Affleck. Climate change activists can be very mean. And we've seen them go after Taylor Swift, the Kardashians, when they're flying short distances. This flight from Naples to Paris is only two and a half hours. If people saw that she was going in a private jet only a short distance, that would just be adding fuel to the fire. So she wants to show, no, no, no. I'm Jenny from the commercial show of business class. - Okay. This is trying to dodge the climate change. - Well, I will say the climate change protesters have been very active. - And they spray painted a private Taylor Swift? - Yeah. - Okay. But I'm going to give you an alternate theory. First of all, her movies actually have done well. - Yeah. - They were pan. - They were critically they. - But they've actually done really well in Netflix and just made a big deal for Netflix. I think the reason is there's kind of been a turn in public sentiment, and I think part of it has to do with, you know, she is Jenny on the block, but she doesn't project Jenny on the block. She projects a rich from the block. - Jenny from the block. Excuse me. But it, she projects, you know, a very rich famous. - Because she has been for 30 years. - She has been for 30 years. - Right. - People are bringing it up now. And she kind of brought it up when she, what was the -- - The fodega. She went into the fodega. - Yeah. - New York and said the orange. I forget what it was called that she -- - So maybe, maybe this is a way of resetting that a little bit. - I know. - Or it's just the most convenient travel option she had at home. - That is, that is another option. - Because it's a short flight and it's like, let's just go and get it over with. It could just be that. - Have you been to the airport and neighbors? - Oh gosh. - Dennis Hunter from Texas. - Good move. - I think J.Lo is trying to present a more relatable image to the public, and this down to Earth, Jester could be her way of connecting with fans and showing them that even the biggest stars have tough times. Or she might be looking to gain sympathy or support, which may help her in her divorce proceedings. It's a fascinating twist in this ongoing saga. - Okay, you guys picked one of your six -- one of the six theories that we just hosted. - It's been in one of them. - You're cool. - By the way, Daniela, if you can up-cut Jacob more often, that'd be great. - That was hysterical. - That was hysterical. ♪♪ - Ariana Grande's dinner plans raising a lot of eyebrows, and some people think that she's kind of insensitive over this. This is the age-old question. She was on Penn Badgley's "Pod Crushed" podcast, and was asked that question of, you know, who would you want to have dinner with alive or dead? Anyone? Who would you have dinner with? - Listen to her answer, and then I think it'll be obvious, but we're going to talk about why some people have really been out of shape with her choice. Oh, I don't think this is obvious at all. - Okay. - Years ago, before the "Dalmer" series, before I was in a Q&A with fans -- with young fans. It was young fans at the time. With a parent, someone said, "If you could have dinner with anyone living or dead, who would it be?" And I was like, "Oh, you're so cute. Who -- Mom and Dad, is it okay if I give the real answer?" And they were like, "Sure, I guess. What's the answer?" And I was like, "Um, I mean, Jeffrey Dahmer's pretty fascinating. I think I would have loved to have met him." - Oh, wow. - Like, you know, maybe with a third party or something like that. But I have questions. I want to -- I have a lot to -- I don't know. I would love to -- And the parents were like, "Let's explain it later." - So she's getting trashed for this, but I got to say, "That is a legit answer to the question." - It's a legit answer, but maybe it's the setting that has -- it's setting people off. - Oh, then she's talking to kids. - They got to get over it. - She was talking to kids. - She's talking about if I -- no, she said if I -- - I know, but there's a reason she turned to the parents and said, "Do you mind if I give my real answer?" - Right. - Because she's being honest. I mean, skewer her for being honest. The fact is -- - I mean, you can dial it down for kids, no? - What is the most popular genre right now? - True crime. I get it. And serial killers are fascinating. And the fact that he is a cannibal is like -- - That's the other -- and that's the other element, I think, that has people going like, "What's wrong with you, Ariana?" - I want to know. I mean, what -- Silence of the Lambs look at Hannibal Lecter. People are fascinated by that. They are fascinated by that. And that's a scripted -- that's a scripted film. - I understand. - But this is real, and I would like to understand what makes somebody like that tick. - So, I'm down with it. - Is Harvey crazy? - Actually, that's a -- that question is -- - Stop it. - Completely separate from this. But joining us right now to talk about this, you're right. People are fascinated, is a clinical, police, and forensic psychologist. - Who has actually dealt with serial killers? - With serial killers. - Dr. Chris Mahindi. Dr. Mahindi, welcome to TMZ Live. - Thank you. Thanks for having me. - Okay, Chris, who's side you on? - He's Harvey. - Is Harvey crazy? - Hit me or him? - I'm on -- I always check the box all of the above. I think that there's a natural interest in -- and curiosity and fascination with these monsters in popular culture. Ariana Grande, yourself, Harvey, are not unique in this regard. I think people want to understand these monsters often reduce their own sense of vulnerability. Like, how does this happen? Why does it happen? You know, because it's so scary. It's so terrifying. But that being said, the backlash stems from the perceived glamorization of these destructive predators. You know, the fact that the victim stories are not told, that there's an insensitivity to the fact that, you know, your interest needs to also take into consideration that people's lives were lost. There's still people that are mourning and traumatized by what has occurred. And that's the problem, is that if you're going to be curious, you need to do so in a sensitive way to the fact that there's still people that are being re-traumatized. - Is there a way, Dr. Ariana Grande, in this case, that she could have said that, that wouldn't re-traumatize victims? I think just saying that you want to have dinner with them, I don't know that there is a sensitive way to say that as far as the victims are concerned. - I think it's an incomplete statement that was a context of a family that she comes from, an interest in horror films in her family. You know, she herself has experienced trauma in her own life that she's had to navigate. And a little, just a little bit more said. Like, I'd love to sit down, you know, find out what makes him tick, understand, you know, better how he could do these horrific things to these innocent people who are still suffering from what he did. Like, the other part of it that I know is there is what was left out, and I think that that's what, you know, people reacting to. - Yeah, I mean, I understand what you're saying, but what about, like, a historian? Or somebody who is, you know, a prosecutor who wants to sit down. - That's not a professional setting. - No, I know, it's a professional setting, but you wouldn't say that about them. This is just somebody who is curious for her own edification, understanding people. And, you know, she's also been the victim of a mass casualty event during the bombing in Manchester. She wasn't hurt, but her fans were killed. - She was legitimately vicariously traumatized in that event. - Yeah, and so she might have a heightened reason to wanna understand what makes people do stuff like this, and I get what you're saying about the victims, but if you're just doing it privately and not disrespecting them overtly, I mean, this is what I mean-- - But that's what Dr. Mohandi said. I think if that was said, if that was that complete sentence, if she had said it that way, then maybe there wouldn't be the backlash. - 'Cause I get what you're saying. If you just say, "Oh, yeah, I wanna have dinner with Dahmer." - Well, not to joke. I hate to use these words, but this feels like it's a little politically correct. I don't wanna disrespect the victims, but I wanna understand what makes somebody like that like that. - What you just said, Harvey, was exactly the complete sentence, not to disrespect the victims, but I wanna understand how a monster like this gets to doing these things that hurt so many people. - Right, so the complete thought. - Okay, so Dr. Mohandi is part of a new show that TMZ Studios is producing that will begin airing July 8th, just in a couple of weeks called Strange and Suspicious, and we're looking at all this weird stuff that's going on in the world and trying to deconstruct it. And he's great on this show, I should say. Yeah. - Thank you. - Thank you for having me. - Really appreciate it. - Thank you so much. - By the way, we should also mention that Dr. Mohandi has a new book out. If you are curious about people like Dahmer, it's called Evil Thoughts Wicked Deeds. - Great title. - Yeah, great title. - Love the title, Dahmer. - Whoo! (upbeat music) - Welcome back to TMZ Live. Kendrick Lamar definitely having a moment, a very long moment as it turns out. He's had a moment for a long time. - I mean, he's having a big moment. - Yeah, you don't remember the battle with Drake, that whole lyrical battle that they had, the songs they were dropping, that was first weekend in May. It has only gotten bigger every single week for Kendrick, you know, not like us, was the number one hit, still in the top five. - And then the forum last week. - The concert, the forum. Then he shot the music video in Compton this weekend. - He is getting. - Hundreds of people coming out around him. - He is getting so much love, and meanwhile, Drake's just losing bets. - And Drake lost big bet on the Stanley Cup finals last night, but we've never heard a diss track at the Grammys. We've never heard a diss track win a Grammy. That might be about the change. We got the Recording Academy CEO, Harvey Mason Jr. out at LAX yesterday. - Like the name. - Yep. - Which part? - Mason. (laughing) - But we got him out, we asked him about all the momentum behind Kendrick Lamar and this song, Not Like Us. Is it possible that it could be performed at the Grammys and maybe even win a Grammy? - Obviously, it's a record. It's amazing artistry, great writing. The talent of that record, it's incredible. And you got artists that have been nominated before. And Kendrick, obviously, has been a successful group organization. That's the only reason why it couldn't be. It's all about the quality of a record. - I think the voting members in the Academy appreciate greatness. - Yeah. - Appreciate what's hot that's going on. That's a relevant record. It's impacting on so many levels. There's so much creativity in the talent. I like to believe that the Academy members recognize that. - Yeah, appropriately. - Well, that's the issue, isn't it? Because he clearly gets it. - Yeah. - Do Academy voters get it? - Yeah, they get it. Because while Charles said we haven't seen a diss song pop up at the Grammys, we actually have, and guess who song it was? - I knew there, as I said, there was like, Tomana's going to come on and tell me there was a diss track. - It was Drake. It was Drake back in 2015 with his back-to-back song. - Back-to-back one of Grammy? - It did not win, but it was nominated for best rap performance at the 58th Grammy Awards. - Well, there you go. That's it. - Oh, my gosh. So you mean there's going to be yet another way that Kendrick is going to beat Drake? - Exactly. He might take the cake even more on this. - So if Kendrick actually wins, does he get up in front of the audience and thank Drake? - No, no, no, no, no, no. - No, no, no, no. - Drake, by the way, by the way. - No, you don't thank Drake. He's going to get up there and he's going to thank Compton. He's going to thank LA. He's going to thank the cultural movement that this song has now become because now people are saying it's more than a diss track. - Right. - And what Kendrick has done with this song and how he's just unified local gangs and just brought so many people together. It's more than just a Drake diss track, but I think he might throw a little subtle snub because that's what we all came for it, but I don't think he's just going to get up there and, for sure, thank Drake, not at all. And also to note, Kendrick's won 17 Grammys before. So it's not like Drake has just upped his career and got him Grammy nominated. He's already won 17. He's going for the 18. - The question would be if he performs it, if they would invite him to perform it, does he leave in the lines that are very clearly shots at Drake? - He has to. - Or does he edit around? - He has to. - I mean, what Mason said was that the whole song is the artistry of it. - Right. - And they're not going to edit it down. They would get the line about Drake being a pedophile. - That might be the one. - Maybe that. - Do you want to, did you say at the- - He didn't say the word pedophile when he did his pop out Ken and Friends song, so he did kind of scale it down a bit, but he still, you know, made sure to tell the fans, you know, hey, we're not going to let anyone talk about our city or our icons like that. So still shots thrown, but no pedophile. - I'm Jasmine from Los Angeles, California, and I think not like that should be nominated for a Grammy. And I think it should win because it transcends just being a diss track. It's for the culture. It's something that we're all relating to. We're all, you know, joining in and enjoying the music. And I think he deserves to win a Grammy. - Well, he just might. Why, Mason made the case for it. He really made the case. - Yeah. I mean, he's now put it on the radar with the voters. - Yeah. - You're right. It's up to the voters. - What he said was just, was really important to set the tone. - Indeed. - Okay. We're going to move on. - Yes. To 50 Cent who's got himself a big gig coming up this summer. Not a concert. This is more about 50 Cent the businessman, the entrepreneur. - Well, it's also 50 getting a little pound of flesh here. - Yes. And it's coming from Diddy because he is going to be the keynote speaker at InvestFest this August in Atlanta. And this is a meeting where you have entrepreneurs coming together and talking about business and about how he's, by the way, 50 Cent. You have to remember as huge a success as he is right now. Do you remember the stories we were doing about him being when he went bankrupt? - Yes. - And he had to sell that massive house in Connecticut. - But this is why, this is why taking chances is the only way of really succeeding in life. That Elon Musk did the same thing. Where you put it on the line, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, but you're not going to win unless you're not going to win if you fear losing. - Scared money don't make money to put it in Vegas terms. - I love that. But by the way, the person who did this had this gig last summer at InvestFest happens to be Diddy. - Yeah. I mean, we all know 50 is a massive, massive troll. So you have to imagine that had something to do with it. He is obviously very accomplished with all of his brands, his production company. But I mean, he will do anything on Earth to troll Diddy at this point. - To troll Diddy. - I mean, he just sold his own documentary about Diddy to Netflix. So I would have to imagine this is just another jab at Diddy, right? - I'm sure it didn't. - Well, it's also hurt. - It didn't hurt, but it's still kind of, it's an honor to do this. And he is, I'll tell you, as a businessman, he's a logical choice for this. - Yes, absolutely. And so, yeah, I think, I don't think they invited him because of Diddy. - Because of Diddy. But when he accepted it, maybe a little. - Maybe a little. - Yeah. Because they got, they got attention. - Normally when you take these gigs, you think you always ask or your agent asks, well, who's done it before? And as soon as they came back to him and said... - He knew who did it before. He knew. But now that you say it, they knew the implication of this and that we're going to get a lot of publicity. - Right. - They're going to have eyes on this. I'll have cameras there. - Smart moves. - All around. - Hi, I'm Ray, calling from North Carolina. I think that 50 is the perfect person for that stage. This Invest Fest is just made to inspire those that have stories that come from nothing and that is 50 in this situation. I think the best way to troll Diddy is to present a bigger check than Diddy presented last year. So I can't wait to see him on that stage. - Oh, that's right. - Yeah. - You usually come in with the big check. - The big check. - The big check. - And yes. - Jeremy Renner is back doing his thing. He's acting, you know... - He's been? - He's been acting. He's completely bounced back from the Snowplow accident. - Which is amazing. - Yes. I mean, we've talked about it so much. But it's been a year and a half now. The latest season of his show, Mayor of Kingstown, is out. And he is now talking about how the accident affected his career. You may look at it and say, "Oh, well, he's completely recovered and he's acting." So it hasn't affected his career. It has. This is what he said, he was on the Smart List podcast and talked about roles that he won't take. - I was very terrified to do, like, fiction. Like, I'm still trying to live in reality and try to live. It was very, very challenging for me mentally to get over that hump. And I still struggle sometimes. I don't take it super seriously. I'm in a character that I can do very well, and I know the show very well. So it was easy for me to kind of slide back into it. But if it was a very challenging role, I couldn't have taken it. If I had to go play Dom or something, you know, like something so far from me. - Like this spiritual space. - Yeah, I just don't have the energy for it. I don't have the fuel. I have so much fuel to put into, like, this reality, this body, this all this stuff. I can't just go play make, make believe right now. - Yeah, right. - Because it takes a lot of time to get right here every day, just so I can, you know, have a positive thought. - You know what's fascinating about, about hearing him is that it's not really the physical hurdles that he's facing anymore. It's the mental ones. I imagine he doesn't want to put himself in a place where he's taking risks on a set because he knows what the real risks really presented in his life and how much that physical recovery sort of cost him in terms of time. So that was what was fascinating to me is that it's really a mental hurdle at this point. - Yeah, that was more mental. - Yeah. - How's the pink eye? - I'm working on it, man. Carter must have done a number on me. - Terrifying discovery in the middle of our meeting this morning that Derek, apparently. - I don't really have pink eye. It's not conjunctivitis. You get a lot of build on the eye. - How do you know? - Well, okay. - Because I have the pink eye drops in my fridge and I get it quite frequently with two little kids. So I know when I have it, this is not it. - Rudy, you're blaming the kids. - So it really is interesting because you see him bounce back and you think, oh my God, he's recovered, but he mentioned mental and physical. - And physical. I don't think you're going to see him doing Marvel movies again. That seems pretty good. - But also just the mental hurdle of getting back into the action, doing all of this stuff. There's got to be elements of PTSD in this. So, you know, he has really been through it. And I got to say, can you think of what he's doing to be doing his show? - It's remarkable. - It's remarkable. And you can just be happy with that. And I think that's where he is now. He's just saying, you know, I've got the show and this one to make sure that this keeps going. Good for him. - Hi, I'm Danielle in Atlanta. It's sad when our favorite actors can't do roles that we love them for. But Jeremy's health comes first. I think he should continue to put his self first. And us as fans have to be understanding. - Yeah, I think they are. Yeah, I think they're understanding and they're grateful. - We're used to seeing rock stars, country stars, pop stars on stage and fans throw stuff in appreciation. - Unwanted stuff a lot these days. - Yes. You're talking about like... - Maybe a rock star. - Things like that. I'm talking about something softer that isn't necessarily a great thing. Morgan Wallen is performing in Minneapolis. There was a fan in the audience who was very excited by his performance and decided to throw a piece of clothing at him. Check it out. Yeah, that's a thong. Right in the face. He didn't break stride at all. - I will say. - Truth be told. - Is it there? - This is not a new thing. - It's not a new thing. - I don't know why. - You know who the OG was with this? - No, I don't. - Tom Jones. - All right. - It was a huge thing in Vegas where all the women would throw underwear. - There's a difference in throwing a bra and throwing. - No, he thought you were. - Yeah, I agree, Charles. And I was trying to put myself in Morgan Wallen's position here and I was like, this is amazing. - I'm sure you were. - But then I thought, you know what? It's Minneapolis. It's summer. It's humid out there. - Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Are you saying, Babcock, somebody did not take this song off in the middle of the know that? - You don't know hard. - You don't know that. - That means it doesn't know that. That's my point. - If you brought a separate dong, I'm cool with it. If you had it in your pocket, but if you took that sucker, I don't know I want that on my face. - The problem is when you throw it up, I have no idea if you took it out of your pocket or if you were wearing it. And so, that's a problem. - Wait a minute. - There's only one way to find new E. - No, no. I got it. I just solved it. No, please don't say it. Derek has pink eye. Derek wasn't performing anywhere. I know that. - No one's throwing thongs at Derek. I promise you there you go. - Andrew from Plainview, New York. I like how Morgan seemed unfazed by the thong, by catching it and then throwing it back to the crowd. It didn't interrupt his performance and he just continued singing. But I think this trend of throwing things at celebrities could be dangerous, like what happened to BB Rexxa. - Right. - Or when a fan gave their mother's ashes to pink, I think it's just weird. - Yeah, no. The ashes is definitely strange. Listen, you don't open the door. - Abra is different. Abra is different. - Abra is different. - Abra, it's fine. How about throwing nothing? I mean, I don't want to be a total party booper. - This is dangerous for, okay, I won't be a kill time. - Yeah, please. What else do you guys want to talk about? - Hi, my name is Vanessa. I live in North Carolina and on JT's arresting officer, it looks like this is nothing new to him whatsoever. I don't know how he isn't faced by any of this because I know I would be. But he seems to just be enjoying his life and not being bothered by the intention at all. - Yeah, as he should be. He's actually what he did. He did his job and now he's, you know, hanging. One more. - Hi, my name is Mara from New York and I wanted to talk about Travis Kelsey. I think he handled that podcast very well and not going around Taylor's soup and his excess. He's definitely media trained and he's very secure in his relationship and he seems very happy. So I was glad he didn't comment on it and he just went around. He's definitely media trained and he did a great job. - And the divide between women and men on this is really interesting, very clear. - How come they don't make any movies about step dads? - What? - They make them about step moms. - No, they have step dads? - Really? - Yeah. - What movie? - Name one. - I'm thinking of three men and a baby but that's not quite -- not really what I'm talking about. Kristen Cavalary and her boyfriend Mark Estes are on vacation but not by themselves. They brought her three kids. - Oh, that's interesting. - So 24-year-old Mark is now in sort of step-dad mode hanging with the kids on the beach in the Bahamas. This is an interesting step for them as a couple. - How long have they been? - We've seen him around the kids before but going on a vacation is, you know, look, Elvin the room here. Everybody's thinking, oh my God, Kristen's 37 and he's 24. No big deal. No big deal. It doesn't matter. It doesn't. - I'm waiting for your explanation why it doesn't. - Because -- - Oh, just because you say so. - No, because that's right. - People are different. - And it's not -- - People are people. Why should it be that you and I should get along so awfully? - You go, Bill Belichick. - That's a different story altogether. We'll see you tomorrow. [MUSIC PLAYING]