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Beyond the Blockchain 8-13-24 the crew interviews Vladimir Baranov of Robot School
Welcome to Beyond the Blockchain with Scott Tindall, a discussion of blockchain technology, cryptocurrency, and why it matters to you. Hey folks, welcome into Beyond the Blockchain, I'm your host Scott Tindall, here with you every Tuesday night like we always are with Phil on the boards, Phil, how are you feeling tonight man? Oh I'm alright, seems to be that there is an opening bed missing, so I will have to fix that. We do the best we can every day, and that's alright, because you know what, we just have a good time, have fun, and you know that's important. So we got a good show tonight, Johnny G, the Johnny Gwen is out tonight, but Sierra Catalina is with us as always from the New Jersey studios, Sierra, how are you, Sierra? Hey folks, happy Tuesday, I am wonderful, I just got back from the beach, it was a beautiful day, I am sunburned, but it was lovely. Now you're bragging, now you're just bragging, is it a real sunburn or an AI sunburn? I think, because nothing is real these days, you know it's funny that you say that because I wonder, like AI portraits are so perfectly generated, I wonder if we could generate image, I'm going to try and do one versus one sunburned, but mine is unfortunately very much real. Well there's going to be levels of that right, well you know, you got a feeling that your Mediterranean skin will adapt accordingly and you'll be just fine, and what is those nerve net bodies or something where you can feel like a sunburn if you want to? That's no, there's no need for that, that sounds like some form of governmental torture, I don't know, I don't like that at all. Some people, you know, I don't know what county, yeah well you never know, well folks in kind of ordinary news that we typically cover back in the first segment, Bitcoin's up to 60,000, which you know we try not to talk about where it is, it's, you know, shoot I think Philip, one time during the show was at 13. It's been at 76 during the show, it's been at 13, I mean, you know, it's like what we taught Johnny last week, like if you're going to look at the price of your portfolio, you have to do 50 push-ups, if you want to buy or sell, do 50 push-ups and that will convince you to decide very seriously if you want to engage in that activity. No push-ups and say I did. You know what, this is a honor system, Phil, you know, you do what you want to do, man, like you're the one that's got to live with yourself, if you keep all this looking and not doing the push-ups. So that's on you, man, you do what you think is appropriate, I've just got to see where they're going, yeah well, you know, that's fair and reasonable, big greens and all that good stuff. Yeah, you know, I'll get you on some steroids and some, I mean, we'll get you on the Joe Rogan plan and who knows what happened to me, maybe jacked up trying to run the walls through the building pretty soon. Other things going on in the world of crypto, I mean, we talk a lot on this show about some of the deep-end projects here, you're very familiar with these, and this first segment always just like to get a little update on what's going on there. Let's see, today we've got, let's see here, we've got, let's see where H&T is in. So we talked a lot about H&T in the show, the helium network token's up 4% today, but since the last time we were on air, up 57%, see here since last Tuesday. Wow, is it really? Yeah, up 57%, let's see where mobile is sitting since last Tuesday, I mean 57%, it's not a small number, when everybody else is worried about the crash of the stock market, mobile is up 22%, let's see, we're high at mapper sitting, as another project we love to talk about high at mapper, which is trying to replace Google Maps, they're down 10%, but you know, all things considered, up 80, up 20, up 10, I mean that's not a terrible place to be. Well speaking, I guess it's okay that I've been out of the loop a bit on the crypto stocks and you were just saying, I haven't needed to do any pushups this week. Good, well that's what we want to hear, I don't want you to look at your stuff, I don't want you to do any pushups. Yes, other stuff going on, life stuff going on, you know. Hey, Sierra, that's kind of our brief update, when we come back from the break, I want to talk about robotics and you have told me that we've got a great guest, Vladimir, who knows everything about robotics. Is that true? Yes we do. Awesome. Awesome. We have it. Alright, when we come back from the break, Sierra and Vladimir are going to teach us about robotics. Hey folks, welcome back into Beyond the Blockchain here on a Tuesday night, we're having fun. If you're not catching us live on a Tuesday night, you may be catching us on the podcast and we love it when you listen there too. And we're streaming live right now from the website. Streaming live around the world, whether you are in Toronto, where Vladimir is, or Tehran, or you know, anywhere else around the world, you never know where people are listening in. I mean, this is a show about blockchain technology and emerging technology. Everybody wants to listen to this show film, there's no shortage of that. And as we promised before the break, Sierra, our great friend Sierra Catalina from the New Jersey studios, has brought in a friend of hers, and Sierra, why don't you take it away here for a second? I would love to. I am very excited to introduce Vladimir Baronoff, the founder of Robot School, which is a project that I am just so passionate and enthusiastic about. Vladimir will tell us more about himself in a minute, but I'm going to boast about him a little. Their mission is teaching children under the age of 10 how to get into and build functional robotics, and he has some kits available on his website, myrobotschool.com, that are absolutely amazing. They've done one with my six-year-old, and they're very reasonably priced. So Vladimir, welcome, I'm so happy to have you here with us tonight. Thank you. Thank you for having me. My name is Vladimir Baronoff. I'm from Robot School, and our mission is to teach 100 million children and inspire them to build robots. So thank you for having me here, of course, a show like this that is forward-looking and future thinking is a great place to be, and I'm really excited to be here. Thank you, Sierra. Thank you. Well, Vladimir, I'm excited to have you here. I think that Robot School is a brilliant idea. I think teaching children, these emerging technologies, is very important. I have daughters that are 13, 11, and 8, so a lot like Sierra, and I'm familiar with the work and the value that you do, and also just the price point that you bring to this technology. Sierra, I'll let you run from here, but I just want to let Vladimir know how grateful we are that he's here and how valuable the work that he's doing is contributing to children around the world. Thank you. Yes, I think that it is so important to target the generation that Vladimir is, because if we are not teaching our children to understand and work with and build robotics, we are setting them up -- we're putting them at a severe disadvantage. We're currently with the way the public education system, at least in America, is where we are not setting our children up for success. We're raising them in a world that they won't understand how to operate in. So it is so important for projects like Vladimir's to get out there and really work with and give these children hands-on experiences. Some of our schools might have STEM programs, but certainly not all of them. And I just absolutely love the mission. I was thrilled to meet Vladimir. I'm grateful that there are people like him out there making this accessible to all. And for the folks listening, Vladimir's kids are extremely affordable. He's got his my first robot's kit, which is $9.99. So very low barrier to entry. Anyone can order one of these bad boys and have fun with it. We had a blast. I learned possibly more than my six-year-old dish. And I understand you also have a new kit that just rolled out. Is that right, Vladimir? Yeah. So what you have on the website, you actually only have one more week to get this kit, because we are transitioning to a homeschool model where it's going to be a program that you sign up for that is an eight-week program because our parents that are teaching want an end-to-end program. Their parents are excited about kits. That's for sure. So what parents are more excited about is being able to teach this on an ongoing basis. So as their kids grow, the technology can grow with them and they have the ability to teach that at home. So I definitely recommend getting the my first robot kit, which is available at myrobotschool.com now, because it will only be available for about one more week and it's going to become part of the program that we're releasing for the fall. And it really starts with your first robot. When you see a child build something for the first time, just turn on a motor. You forget how simple these things are for us, maybe, but how life-changing they are for a child. The first time they turn on a motor with no exception, the light in their eyes, the running around the room and showing their friends how I did this, I did this, and their friends are trying to copy them, you can't really replicate that. And we want to give children these moments that they love the game, as we say it. So as they grow up, if they love it, they have the resources to do that. And you can do that at home with not only the kids, but the program that's coming out. Vladimir, I think that it's very impressive. It's also very intuitive. I know my children think that way as well. What was the basis for you starting this program and what do you really feel like? I know we mentioned having a million children look at this, but what's the vision here? What's the basis and what's the vision going forward? The vision is that robotics are part of the future. The printing press made us worse at calligraphy as a human race, but made us better at writing. The calculator made us worse at arithmetic, but made us better at math. AI and robotics are going to take away our need to do some work that we no longer need to do, and it will make us incredible at doing other things. And because I think this is the future, it's important to make sure that kids, especially our kids, our kids being the kids of the world who want to do this and who choose to participate in it, who want to do this have the ability to do it. It's very important because without knowing how this stuff works, you won't be able to participate properly in the future. My son is five years old. At around three years old, I saw him getting into electronics with the kids that we bought for him. But what's really missing is the kids at this age, they learn by poking. They poke stuff, and then they see what works, and they poke it, and they see what works. And when it comes to electronics, that's really missing, and so my vision was to create something where kids can poke something long enough that it works. Because you can't just give a child a bunch of batteries and wires and say, "Poke it till it works." They won't figure it out. It has to be thought out a little bit. And so that's what we created, this vision where kids can learn as easily as they play with play dough and poke it till it works. We do that with electronics, and that's the vision to inspire, to make children inspire. This is really what it comes down to. You can watch a great athlete, and you can leave impressed and say, "Wow, they can fly." Or you can watch a great athlete, and you can leave inspired and say, "Wow, I can fly." And our mission above all is to leave children with that feeling of, "I can fly." That's really the point of it all. I think that's a beautiful way of describing a very complex issue in a way that people can understand, because I don't want to belittle or simplify the world of robotics. But if we want mass adoption, we're going to have to simplify the world of robotics. And it seems like you're well on your way of doing that. Sierra, talk a little bit about your experience with this robotics program with your own child. We ended up blessed. So first and foremost, it is fun. And like Vladimir mentioned, when that light bulb goes off and you see the independence that it inspires in your child, and they have that, "Wow, I just built something, and it works. I built this thing, and it works." For my child, it unlocked something inside of him. We are very into robotics, and he's experimented with some other forms of robotics. We've been like, "Oh, robotics," which is a bit more complex than I did 70% of it, and he did like 30% of it, and there was lots of tutorials involved. But the way that Vladimir's kids break down the simplicity of the building, he really did it mostly by himself, and that unlocked a hunger in him to learn more. And it's just been really beautiful to watch and inspiring, and I love that the mission is to inspire our children. I think that's so important, because when we put really difficult tasks in front of them, and they fail, and they fail again, they're not really going to want to continue to try with that. When they're able to achieve something and see it function, it makes most children want to do more. I've got a question for you. Is there a desire to keep growing the robotics as these children age? Let's say you capture a group of children aged five to eight, or whatever this is. Do you think there's an opportunity to keep advancing them through your program and giving them more advanced opportunities in robotics? Or do you really just want to be the introductory phase for robotics for these children? That's a really good question, and right now, I really think we want to be the introduction, because if they can love the game when they're 12, 14, 16 years old, they in some sense don't need us and shouldn't need us, and that's the whole point, is as much as we want to develop a lifelong customer, and we will, we really want to develop a person who is independent, and in some sense, they shouldn't need the teacher at some point. We will definitely strike that balance. There's a longer-term business strategy and a policy strategy, and this and that, but ultimately, we do want the child to be independent, and so there is a balance between teaching them for a prolonged period of time and letting them do their own thing, and I think letting them do their own thing at some point is very important. I think that's a really good answer. I didn't go into that question with a preconceived notion on what the right answer should be, and it sounds like you don't either, right? We're all just doing the best we can to provide opportunities for children, and we'll see how it goes as it goes, but I do like your approach of if we do the right thing to prepare the children with the skills and resources they need, then the mentorship becomes more of a almost like a supervisory role like we would in an internship, or like we see in doctoral programs, more so than I need to be your direct hands-on teacher. Is that fair? Yes, and more so with the AI tools becoming more powerful and potentially helping assist teaching not only at home but in school, there are other skills that are going to become as important if not more important than these technical skills, so to say. What we actually really teach, although we talk about robotics, we really teach resilience, grit, tenacity, self-confidence, imagination, even creativity, and these things are as important if not more important going forward because if everybody has tools to do anything they want and we have these amazing AI tools and the blockchain to build anything and we have any kind of Web3 technology, AI, robots, well then the people who want it most are going to be the people that succeed and the technology and the tools are the tools of the day and so maybe in the year 1870 we would have been teaching the writing class or the swordsmanship class or the rifle shooting class, but today we're teaching robotics because that's the thing that you need to go forward. You speak in my language, you and I are on the same page, I've spent a tremendous part of my career talking about grit, resilience, and passion and I think you're right, those are transferable skills, it doesn't matter what industry you're in, it doesn't matter what part of history you're in, those things are transferable, I think you're right on the money and I think that our listeners are lucky to hear what you have to say and I think the world is lucky to learn what you have and what you're giving all the rest of us. So we're going to go to a break here in a second, Vladimir, but when we come back I hope you'll stick around with us. Just talking more about the universal skills of grit, passion, endurance, never giving up and why robotics is just a piece of that. When we come back, I'm beyond the blockchain. Welcome back to Beyond the Blockchain with Scott Tindall. Hey folks, welcome back to Beyond the Blockchain, I'm your host, Scott Tindall, here with Philip on the boards and if you don't know what Philip does, he just pushed like 34 buttons to get us from having a conversation off the air to on the air, I don't know what button he pushed me, he was like a maestro on the piano and it was fun to watch, we're here tonight. I'm very much into robotics, my head gets so filled with different things that we're talking about and like the board and all these. Brother, you wrote in robotics on those boards tonight, that was like a maestro on the piano, I had no idea what was going on. We're joined tonight by Sierra Catalina, the New Jersey Studios as always, Sierra, how are you? I am a Kermit ended. Excellent. And tonight on the show we've got Vladimir at a Toronto, Vladimir, how are you? Hey, great to be here, doing great. Awesome. We had a really good conversation on the first half of the show about robotics, about the work that you're doing, Vladimir, and Sierra was telling us a little bit about the work that you're doing and she has experience with her, with her child or their son. Where we kind of left off was what does life look like? How do we get people, and specifically students, beyond this one idea of this one class into thinking on their own, doing their own and being just so immersed in this technology? Vladimir, what do you think is the future of, this is a very broad question and I don't expect a specific answer, but what is the future of education? Is it going to be this traditional model that we've always seen where we just put our kids in this institutionalized system, or will it become more hybridized? And I don't see her as an answer to that because she's already answering this question. So Sierra, I want you to tag in on this also, but Vladimir, what do you see for the future of education? I think education as AI takes a more prominent role in actually teaching because AI will be very smart, education will look more like coaching, in that it will be more important to make sure that children can work through failure than anything else because they'll have the ability to learn any skill. And if you can work through failure, you can pretty much do anything. And so we happen to teach robotics when we left off before the break. I mentioned that what we really work on is resilience, grit, tenacity, and other things. And those things are the future of not just education, but of successful people in the future because that's what will separate people who succeed from people who don't in whatever they try because if everybody has access to the same tools and they're all at our fingertips, the robot is right here, the AI is right here, Google is right here, pen and papers right here, well then what separates the people who make it quote unquote from the people who don't? It's desire. It's the ability to work through failure and education will look so to and to loop back your question, coaching, it'll be coaching is the is going to is the future of education. It's making children strong. I think it's a beautiful way of saying it's here. I'd love your interpretation and experience with this as well. What is your kind of take on that? First of all, I'm just so inspired by what Vladimir just said, education will look more like coaching. I love that so much and I'm going to use that in the future and I will quote you Vladimir. I think that the future of education will be highly personalized with access to AI and AI driven tools. Children will be able to really become experts in topics that they are intrinsically interested in and I'm hoping that sooner rather than later AI powered curriculums will allow them to advance at their own rate right now with standardized education. Unfortunately, and it hurts my heart to say this, but a lot of teachers will say that a majority of their time is spent catering to the bottom percentage of the class which really holds back the students that are ready for more knowledge and ready to advance and move on some extremely hopeful and optimistic about the opportunities that AI can add to allowing those students that are ready for more to really work at their own pace and dive deeper into the topics that they are intrinsically interested in and hopefully we will start reading generations of experts instead of generalists. I think it's a great point, I'm not sure if you knew this Sierra or our listeners said but my very first career was as a public school teacher and I was teaching high school and had a great number of students that could not read at grade level and I shared some research and I learned that the FBI takes third grade reading levels and they use that to be the basis of future bed needs in state prisons. So there's a direct correlation to whether or not your provision and reading in third grade and future bed needs a prisons. Well the big problem behind that is and the numbers have moved up since COVID and I'm not trying to be up oh it's all because of COVID but what we've seen since COVID is there's a substantially large population I think the number is 44% of the students in Mississippi are not proficient in reading in third grade and that is a massive number. So the first thing we got to do is teach children how to read. If we can't teach them how to read then we've got it's hard to teach them how to do other things. So I was teaching high school and I remember teaching ninth grade history and I was trying to get the kids to read out loud or do their homework and they couldn't read in general. So there was very little I could do as ninth grade history teacher. So I had to start spending most of my time trying to teach the children how to read until we solve that problem. Some of our more complicated problems are really kind of off the table. So we have like I feel like we're entering into two different worlds of education right. We've got the world of the parents who are going to expose their children to emerging technologies, AI, robotics, machine learning, the world that we know is the future and then we've got a tremendous amount of students who are going to get left behind because the traditional public school system isn't equipped to even teach them how to read much less teach them emerging technologies. Is there a solution to that Vladimir? I mean on the work you're doing do you and you may not see this in Canada but this is a very big issue here in the States. Is that something that you've thought about or it may not even be on your radar I don't know. In the States you have my understanding much more variety and less homogeneity in the school systems across States and so naturally you'll have a larger difference in performance. So if you want to have everybody perform at a similar level as a country you'll have to be okay with more federally standardized requirements for lack of better words. If you want to have we as a country have a thing then we as a country need to have a requirement or some kind of standard. Sierra have you experienced any of that up there in New Jersey? I'm very lucky that the area that I live in has really excellent schools and I did not know about that statistic that is alarming and heartbreaking and my son who is going into it first grade this year is you actually just give me a little bit of hope for my own child's future because he's reading at a third grade level so hopefully we will. Yeah you're good I don't think the FBI is worried about a bed and a prison for your son. So what about the SATs? You know I don't know I don't want to be ignorant and speak about the SATs in a way I don't know but I don't know that it's directly correlative to or correlative to some of the FBI statistics it spends much more time looking at children in their youth and I also don't know that that's you know this is just a statistic the FBI releases right is it causation, quarrelization I don't know I'm not I'm not trying to make a definitive decision here or definitive remark on how that is but I will tell you it doesn't seem crazy to me to think that the more literate the population is the more likely you are to have a better outcome of life that doesn't sound like a crazy reach. Yeah so I guess my only point was that the SAT is a standardized test and if we can do the SAT nationwide which we do then other standardized well we do we do have standardized test for for children and that's kind of where we come up with some of these numbers the question is what do we what do we do about that and what is the response to that and the answer is on this radio show we can't solve any of those problems I try to focus on things we can control and things we can't and not focus on things we can't control we can't control any of that maybe we can bring some you know illumination to and shine a spotlight on those things but we can't control that all right folks we're gonna go take a break things got a little heavy right now when we come back let's go beyond beyond the blockchain Vladimir let's talk about something interesting maybe some aliens maybe some sci-fi movies I don't know let's see what happens on beyond the blockchain Roseanne Haven from WKRG news 5 $30 million in funding announced for 25 coastal projects in Alabama some of the big projects include Mobile Riverfront enhancements, Dolphin Island Beach access improvements, Blakely Park waterfront access and the Flying Creek Nature Preserve Project in Fairhope the money is from federal go Mesa funds which come from revenue generated by oil and gas production in the Gulf no lawn irrigation or washing your vehicles in Fairhope it's prohibited for now the order to conserve water comes as the city's water capacity is down by a million gatlets crews are working to repair a water well a temporary pump is expected to arrive tomorrow anyone caught violating the order from the city can be fined $500 I'm Roseanne Haven from WKRG news 5 local coverage you can count on hey this is Louis Arrata with Mcconlottomoto if you need to get rid of a car give us a call 2 5 1 4 7 6 41 41 asked for Gene Stuckey give him the vent in the miles will give you a great price on it to 5 1 4 7 6 41 41 my mom suppressed cancer survivor the United Breast Cancer Foundation saved her life their free breast cancer exam caught the cancer early and it's saved her life but now the foundation needs your help so they can continue offering free or low cost breast screening exams saving more women's lives help them by donating your car whether it's running or not they'll provide fast free 24 hour pickup and you receive a charitable tax deduction plus the great feeling you'll get knowing your donated car is going to help save more lives just call 80526 7406 to set the wheels in motion they take cars trucks vans and SUVs running or not call 80526 7406 the United Breast Cancer Foundation needs your help and your donation could literally save women's lives helping them catch breast cancer early like they did with my mom donate today 80526 7406 that's 80526 7406 here are some tips to stay safe while having fun on our beautiful beaches look for the warning flag yellow is medium risk red is high double red beach closed and purple dangerous marine life check the surf conditions before you go online at weather.gov/mol if you've caught on a rip tide remain calm and called for help as you swim parallel to the shore don't forget the sunscreen and drink plenty of water weather.gov/mob for more if you're talking about us they're not doing anything this should be a log is that we're talking about it well unemployment has dropped so it wages it's talk southern style on FM talk one oh six five welcome back to be on the blockchain with Scott Tyndall. Hey folks welcome into be on the blockchain I'm your Scott Tyndall here with Phillip on boards we got Vladimir at a Toronto we got Sierra at a new Jersey we're trying to get beyond beyond the blockchain before we yeah before we went into the break we're talking a lot about education and the future of education but now let's talk about some a little more interesting Vladimir let's go beyond beyond the blockchain you mentioned that your favorite dystopian or technological movie maybe Terminator and Terminator 2 what is it about those films that entreat you well there's a there's a few things one is I don't know that it's just Sophia and if the humans wind you know I think it's just part of the part of the game if you imagine me watching this movie in 1992 in you know I'm five years old in Russia and this is one of maybe seven tapes that we have that are recorded and so I was just watching this tape on loop Terminator 1 and Terminator 2 over and over with the Russian subtitles so the timing of it you know was just part of my childhood and but the idea of you know a robot in a lot of Slavic languages means it's come from the word parabola which means hard work so any machine that can do your work is really interesting to me because you know work is what you're supposed to do in life and if the machine can do it for you you've solved life so to me that concept is really you know kind of cool that's really fascinating what year did you come to Canada and what was that transition like when you moved over here it was December 27 1995 I was eight years old and what I remember is you know I learned a little bit of English before coming over so that you know we could try to try to try to live you know fit in here a little bit but the first thing I remember seeing French everywhere there were because Canada has English and French and so we're at the airport I mean you're all nice to see all these words that aren't even English and I'm like why were we were learning English because everything says the end be new and I don't know what that means you were in Montreal trying to figure out what in the world is going on around it yeah and next month it said it was January and everywhere said John VA and I thought this was some French guy that they that he admired me John VA so it was that's a wonderful story that's a fantastic story I would tell you that your English is better than my Russian I assure you see her go to I'm sorry I love that Vladimir said the Terminator and Terminator 2 are his favorite movies because a fun fact about me growing up I was not allowed to watch the Terminator movie they were the only movies that really scared the ever-loving daylights out of my mother like absolutely terrified her and it wasn't until adulthood that I I saw any of the Terminator films and then while working in the field in in AI and in robotics whenever my workload starts to feel a bit heavy I actually watch those films as inspiration to remember why why we build and and what we're trying to prevent in the outcome that we don't want so is mom is mom terrified is mom terrified about your daily jobs I can talk to her about all the amazing robotics content that I share yeah mom's like I don't I don't have anything to do with this in fact why don't you be a good Italian wife and just find some man to be a part of the mafia I don't I I I shield her from the I try and show her like really the really positive development in robotics and there've been so many but she definitely is in denial that that it is coming in that we're gonna have humanoid robots walking amongst us very soon I look it goes back to I've said this many shows the best scene in Westworld was when someone walks up to this robotic humanoid and says are you real and she says if you can't tell the difference does it matter speaking of Westworld there is another movie that came out in 1974 called a boy in his dog which is based on the Harlan Ellison story have you been here we can always we can always rely on Phil to bring back something prior than 1985 into our into our nomenclature he's always there to give us something but there's a scene like the Terminator or this guy they're living underground after World War 3 and there's this village it's basically our town they're like this freaky post-apocalyptic our town this is this huge guy and overalls big old you know country guy and he starts chasing after it's Don Johnson he's like 18 and he's being chased by this huge guy he's got a shotgun he shoots Don Johnson from my me vice oh yeah and he shoots the guy in the face oh my gosh that's very violent terminator face the skin falls off and there's terminator face this is 1974 and there's terminator face hanging halfway in Don Johnson yeah when chasing that from an 18 year old kid with his his psychic dog the psychic dog well yes as telepathic telepathic engineer you know engineer dog basically people put you know a brain you know you know your positronic brain in the dog's head Vladimir gave him a psychic connection with with with this young guy we can rely on Philip to give us information from sci-fi far beyond what uh our little young minds could perceive you always had to feel always that you came in there's always something out there I mean yeah nothing's new I mean you know Pol Anderson when I was a little kid I was reading Pol Anderson I was reading you know Arthur C. Clark I was just sticking my head in all those books you know and Isaac Asimov and just you know just cramming my head full of that stuff when I was a little well you know thank God for all that if wouldn't for all that reading we wouldn't get all this insight today. That's true and that you know maybe not necessarily the film that so just mentioned however speaking of sci-fi it is amazing to me how much reality seems like sci-fi every day as technology advances the things that we read about that were science fiction and the future is today um Vladimir I don't think we did a good enough job explaining to people how they can learn more about your robotic program can you give everybody your web address how they can be a part of this robotics kit and everything you have to offer yeah absolutely so if you if you have kids under 10 and you want them to get involved in in robotics or if you're a teacher that has the teachers kids under 10 some junior kindergarten to grade three all you got to do is send me an email info at myrobotschool.com and mention that you heard it on this radio show and we'll make sure that your first week is free we have our program coming out for schools and for homeschool starting the starting in the fall so if you're in school you can teach your kids robotics right in the class and if you're homeschooling your kids you have a community to join so that your kids can not only learn to build at home with you and you can learn to build with them but they can share this with other kids around the world so send me an email to info at myrobotschool.com and that's the easiest way to get started outstanding so if you listen to this program send an email to Val item here and get your kids involved in this robotics program get them involved in the future of education get them involved in life and what future ads are for them don't let your kid be left behind alright next time we'll talk to you more on me on the blockchain (upbeat music)