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Rapid Fire: Riley Leonard, College Station Heat, Howard Cross, Xavier Watts, Harry Hiestand

Today's Rapid Fire topics include: * Fill-in the blank...It’s BLANK that we haven’t seen more of Riley Leonard in Notre Dame’s social media practice highlight videos.

  • Fill-in the blank...All the talk about the heat in College Station, Texas is BLANK.  * Howard Cross III, Benjamin Morrison and Xavier Watts have all been named to the 2024 Chuck Bednarik Award Watch List. The award goes to the nation’s top defensive player. Which of those three has the best chance to win the award?
  • From a listener: Since Analysts can coach on the field now, do you Buy or Sell that Notre Dame should do whatever it takes to bring Harry Hiestand in on a limited role/ part time analyst to coach up the younger players. * Longtime college football writer Ralph Russo of the Associate Press looked at the last 10 years of preseason rankings to predict who will actually make it into this year’s 12-team College Football Playoff. The last 10 years say this: *4 of the 5 teams in the preseason AP top 5 will make it *2 teams ranked 6 through 10 will make it *One team ranked between 21 and 25 will make it *And three unranked teams will make it -We predict who will make it into this year’s 12-team CFP.

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42m
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14 Aug 2024
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Today's Rapid Fire topics include:

* Fill-in the blank...It’s BLANK that we haven’t seen more of Riley Leonard in Notre Dame’s social media practice highlight videos.

* Fill-in the blank...All the talk about the heat in College Station, Texas is BLANK. 

Howard Cross III, Benjamin Morrison and Xavier Watts have all been named to the 2024 Chuck Bednarik Award Watch List. The award goes to the nation’s top defensive player. Which of those three has the best chance to win the award?

* From a listener: Since Analysts can coach on the field now, do you Buy or Sell that Notre Dame should do whatever it takes to bring Harry Hiestand in on a limited role/ part time analyst to coach up the younger players.

* Longtime college football writer Ralph Russo of the Associate Press looked at the last 10 years of preseason rankings to predict who will actually make it into this year’s 12-team College Football Playoff. The last 10 years say this:

*4 of the 5 teams in the preseason AP top 5 will make it

*2 teams ranked 6 through 10 will make it

*One team ranked between 21 and 25 will make it

*And three unranked teams will make it

-We predict who will make it into this year’s 12-team CFP. 


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That's indeed.com/bluewire, terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? You need Indeed. This episode is brought to you by our good friends at NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. I'm sure by now you've all got back into your Sunday routines, but they could be even better. With NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV, you get the most live NFL games all in one place every game every Sunday, and you can even watch up to four different games at once with Multi View, one of my favorite inventions of this decade. It's exactly what you need to catch all the action. Make your Sundays more magical, and also, YouTube TV is great. I got it this year. It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com/bsdevice and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV, NFL Sunday Ticket for Out of Market Games excludes digital only games. Vince, are you ready for some rapid fire? So ready for some rapid fire. There's some really good ones in here. I'm kind of pumped about this. I'm happy I made you happy. I know you are. So Andrew dropped this one in the chat last night. I didn't get to it, but I thought it was interesting. Fill in the blank. It's blank that we haven't seen more of Riley Leonard in Notre Dame's social media practice highlight videos during training camp. It's fine. I don't have a problem not seeing Riley Leonard in social media. I saw the one social media highlight that I need to see him running around the edge, out running guys, and getting a touchdown. That's all I needed to see from Riley Leonard, so I'm good. I just go back to what I said at the start of training camp. Someone asked about the fact that we weren't getting more full practices and stuff like that. I think that between the fact that you've got the new offensive coordinator in Mike Dembrok and a quarterback in Riley Leonard who didn't get to play in the blue gold game, obviously. We didn't get to see him do anything in the offense. So they kept things relatively vanilla, which you always expect from a new offensive coordinator in the spring. I think that all of those things aren't coincidences when you look at the kind of, you know, availabilities, things that we haven't been able to view and the fact that you're not seeing more of Riley Leonard, you know, like, I don't think it's going to come as a great shock to anyone. And we see on the field what it looks like how Mike Dembrok is employing Riley Leonard out there. But at the same time, I don't think that they necessarily, I think they want to keep that curtain up as long as possible going into the season. So I think that I don't think it's a complete coincidence. And again, I'm fine with it, but I'm not completely shocked that we haven't seen any more of that out there. Yeah. I'm not shocked either. Yeah, I'm not surprised and look, you're only going to have the element of surprise one time. Yeah. And this is a big game in game one. I mean, he's not doing ridiculous stuff about not putting out a depth chart and things like that, like some other coaches have done in the past. So I mean, he's not being an idiot about it. And I mean, that in the nicest way possible, but at the same time, you also want to protect the assets that you have and you want to protect a little bit of, you know, any kind, like I said, any kind of element of surprise. So I don't really have an issue with it. I've seen him throw the football. Yeah. I've seen him run the football. What more? What more do we need to see? It's really, well, honest with you, it's none of our business. Like Andrew says, and he's the one who threw it in there yesterday. He says he thinks it's weird because he's the most important player and we haven't seen much footage. Again, I just, I don't think it's in their benefit to put that much out there. And like Joe says, there was the video of him dropping the dime to Chris Mitchell and it's like, okay, you know, deep fade, deep corner fade toward the sideline. It's like, you know, very common route, you know, so it's not like you're giving away many trade secrets in seeing a corner route to Chris Mitchell from Riley Leonard, you know, but and there was the stuff of him turning the corner and, you know, in that video that they put out last week and stuff like that, we'll have plenty of chances were. Yeah. That's a thing. My watch is dead. Oh, we're 17 days away. Look, as much as Notre Dame football is for the fans and all of those things, they have no responsibility to the fans to show them anything in the preseason. I mean, I, I know that sounds harsh and I'm not trying to be an a hole about it, but they really don't have any responsibility to show off what they're working on. You know what I mean? Yeah. They don't. Oh, I don't really, I honestly do not have a problem with it. I don't. DK is asking if, if Freeman has officially announced the starting quarterback. He's not going to. I feel like a fly. I feel like a little jab, like, like that's like there's any question they're not going to. When we have seen who's been out there with the first team, fill in the blank. All the talk about the heat in college station, Texas is blank. It's overblown. It's overblown. I'll just say that. Yes, it's going to be hot. Yes, it's going to be humid. Is Notre Dame aware that that is going to happen? Yes, they are. Are they taking precautions like fluids and rest and, you know, the way that they're practiced? Sure. Of course they are. At the end of the day, that is not going to be the difference in who wins or loses this game. Period. It's not going to. I'm sorry. And if that's the excuse coming out of why you lost, then they're not the football team that we thought they were. Carlos says, "No, it's not." He's from Texas. Okay. It's 103 degrees there. Congratulations. So is Texas A&M. And here's the thing. I get acclimation and all that different kind of stuff, but this is just a new spin on one of these kind of topics that comes up every year. Last year it was, "How are they going to adjust to the time zone difference going to Ireland and coming back from Ireland?" It worked out. Remember, a few years back when they bebop and all over the country, they went to New York City, they came back, they played in San Diego against Navy, they came back, there was a home game, they played a game in Chicago against Northwestern, and then they went back to Los Angeles, Southern California at the end of the season. There was all this talk about, "How are they going to do it?" All this travel, they're flying back and forth and all these time zones and all this different stuff. Guess what? It worked out. It's going to be hot. There's absolutely nothing that we can say that's going to convince everyone that it's going to be okay. You've got to see it and they've got to prove it to you first. It's going to be hot. There's no way around that, but the game is going to kick off after 7.30 p.m. central time. I did look at the weather down there in college station today. It'll probably by half time drop at least 10 or 12 degrees and then by the fourth quarter, it'll probably be a good 15 degrees cooler compared to the start of the game. That's all I can say. Will it be a factor? Yes. But there are a lot of smart people who get paid a lot of money both on the coaching staff and the performance staff over there at Notre Dame. I've got full confidence that they've got a plan and it'll work itself out. That's all I can say. There's also a lot of guys on this roster that came from south of the Mason Dixon line who are used to playing in the heat. That's part of it too. Since they haven't been practicing in the heat, so that changes everything because they're not practicing in the heat for a week beforehand. Right. Yeah. Okay. I'll play devil's advocate. I am super worried about the heat. How would you like me to practice in that heat while living in northern Indiana? Because this is still college football. That is the first week of practice. I mean, I'm sorry, the first week of classes or the second week of classes, something along those lines. They can't just pick up the whole operation and go move to Texas for a week. It's not going to happen. So how would you like Notre Dame to practice to get acclimated to heat that does not exist in northern Indiana? That would be my question. So it's the whole, you can complain all you want, but don't complain to me unless you have a solution. So what is your solution people in general, like not you. Right. Like, no, like a solution. Are you just going to panic about it? You know, I know there are some people who think that they need to pack up and practice down there all week so they can get acclimated to it. You know, like, like that's going to solve everything. You know, it's, it's, I agree with this, what, what Andrews says, you know, because they're all going to Notre Dame is going to have these guys hydrated, you know, they're again, they're going to have a plan that begins not just the day before the game, you know, start swilling some Gatorade Friday night, which, you know, it's like, that's what your high school coach would tell you on Thursday night, it's like, it's going to start early in the week. Correct. They're, they're going to have them over hydrating as much as possible. They're probably going to be checking on all this kind of stuff. Like all this different stuff. It comes down to depth and Notre Dame has got good depth and I think that they're going to ultimately have more depth than Texas A. I agree completely and Notre Dame will use its depth. There's no doubt about it. They're not going to be stupid about it either. They're not just going to roll people out there to roll them out there. That's not smart football either. So you know, we've talked about the defensive line being able to go 11 or 12 deep. You'll probably see nine or 10 of those guys, right? You know, the, the linebackers he talks about playing all five. Okay. What does that snap count look like when Texas A&M is all over with? Is it going to be three with most and two with some? You know, what, what is all of this going to look like? We're all going to find out, but you cannot simulate that heat up here. You can't. All you can do is prepare. Literally, the only way to do it would be if they shut the doors of the Irish Athletic Center, the indoor practice facility and, you know, practice sweating their gonads off all week, you know, even then it's not going to be as humid, you know, as it would be down there. You can't replicate the humidity. You just can't do it. That's exactly right. Yeah. You just can't. It's not feasible. So is it, is it a factor? Yes. But I don't think it's going to be the factor that a lot of people, like I said, they went to Florida state three years ago. It's hot and muggy and Tallahassee too, like it's not like Notre Dame has never started off a season playing in sweaty hot conditions, you know, so like this is just the thing that we have to think about. You're right. A couple of weeks before the season starts price picks is America's number one daily fantasy sports app with over five million active members. Prize picks is the easiest and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports. Unlike other apps on prize picks, it's just you against the numbers. All you do is pick more or less on two to six player stat projections and watch the winnings roll in, baby. Get in on the daily action with your friends and become part of the prize picks community today. Get in on all the excitement and win up to a hundred times your cash with the summer games on prize picks. 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Just go to indeed.com/bluewire right now and support our show by saying that you heard about Indeed on this podcast. That's indeed.com/bluewire. Terms and conditions apply. Indeed to hire, you need Indeed. So here's one that Tommy had last night that we didn't get to another one of our we and we out. He says Notre Dame will actually handle the heat and humidity as it relates to cramps and heat exhaustion better than the Aggies due to having the deeper rotations. Interround on that. I'm in on that. I think that's I think we just started talking about that right. We kind of stepped on that question a little bit but I think Notre Dame does have the depth and I think that they will outlast Texas A&M in that department and Elko's first year. You know what I mean? Yeah. So maybe that's not the case next year but it is the case this year. Yeah. Like A&M's like their front end guys on the defensive line that we've talked about they're good. They're really good. Sure. But I don't think that they're going to be able to go 11 or 12 deep like Notre Dame is going to. And that's going to be the key. Those guys are really good. Their first line is really, really, really good. Are they going to be able to be out there every single series, every single play? Like that's unrealistic in the heat, right? And so does Notre Dame take advantage when those guys are off the field? That may be what this game comes down to, right? And so yeah, I do think Notre Dame has more depth, I do concur. So Howard Cross, Benjamin Morrison, Xavier Watts. They've all been named to the 2024 Chuck Benneric award watch list. The award goes to the nation's top defensive player, which of the three has the best chance to win that award? Well, you know, it's probably without knowing the history of the Benneric award, I would assume that it's difficult to go back to back, right? It kind of like the Heisman like you're just not going to see a two time winner. Now watch one of the Nogursky last year. And the Nogursky. I'm sorry. You're right. Yeah. This is the Benneric. Oh, there's so damn awards. I know. You know, I don't think Xavier Watts is going to have the stats to win that award this year. I think Riley, I'm sorry, Howard Cross could potentially win that award if the stats back it up, which for a defensive lineman, obviously that is very, very difficult, but they're going to avoid. Xavier Watts are going to avoid Ben Morrison. And so I'll say Howard Cross has the best chance to win. See, I think it's going to be tougher for Cross just because like it's so hard for interior defense. It's like it's an anomaly for Howard Cross to have the kind of season. He had like 60 plus tackles last year. You don't see nose guards with that kind of production. Sure. Typically. And again, if the defensive line rotation is as deep as it is, you know, I just, I see that being hard. Now, to your point, I also don't see Xavier Watts coming up with seven interceptions. Right. Again, right. This year, but you know, like if he's even got five and he's a tackling machine, which I think that he can be, you know, like one thing about Watts is like he, he like, he's got a knack for knowing where the ball is supposed to be. And that, that leads into the interceptions that tackles all these different things. So I'm going to lean it toward Watts just because I think it's, I think it's going to be harder for Cross to replicate the pure numbers that he had as a tackler last year because of the position that he plays fair enough to go toward Watts. This one from Lando Calrissian. Since analysts can coach on the field now, do you buy or sell Notre Dame should do whatever it takes to bring Harry, he stand in on a limited role slash part time analyst role to coach up the younger players by yourself, a huge sell. You don't bring in an alpha to be a subordinate. It wouldn't work. It would not work. I'm sorry. It wouldn't, it would not work. So that's a huge, huge sell for me. I'm in the same boat because like there, there, there are a lot of people who have this pie in the sky. Well, analysts can do this like bring this, bring this former head coach in as an analyst. So like it's not as simple as just saying, you know, obviously he stand is not a former head coach. But as you said, he's an alpha. He was just running this position group a couple of years ago. Exactly. Yeah. So like you're going to bring him in and have him work under Joe Rudolph now, you know, just like bringing a former head coach in to work under someone as an analyst like place that you were that position. Yes. Now, that doesn't work. I just don't see it. I just don't see it. So I've got to sell because it's just, it's again, it's, I think it's a pie in the sky, you know, kind of idea that you're going to get this guy who used to be the guy and bring him in. It's like, well, he doesn't have to recruit now and all that kind of stuff. And here's the other, here's the other thing, you either have faith in Joe Rudolph or you don't. Yeah. And what are you telling Joe Rudolph? If you bring in Harry, he stand to out, I mean, this is a Jerry Jones move to be quite honest. Jerry Jones kind of move. This is what Jerry Jones would do, bring in someone, put him on the staff and you know, like, like he brought Dan Quinn in under Mike McCarthy. It obviously worked out for the defense, but he kept Dan Quinn around with the thinking that, well, if Mike McCarthy doesn't cut it, we've always got Dan Quinn and we can promote him. And only so many times that you could do that and, you know, the defense stunk in the playoffs last year. And so Jerry decided that that wasn't the move anymore, but that's the kind of move that Jerry would make. Do you really want to be making Jerry Jones type decisions? The answer is no. Right. And DK says Alabama did it off and bringing ENX, NFL coaches to be analysts. I get it, but it has to be the right fit. You can't, you can't bring in the guys were willing to work under Nick Saban because they knew what it would ultimately do for their career. This is completely different scenarios. Let's not compare. Marcus Freeman is a good ahead coach. He's not Nick Saban. Nobody is. That's the difference is Nick Saban was the guy that they were working for at Alabama and they knew what it could do for their career. Correct. And it wasn't a quick amount of time. And it wasn't being a subordinate to the position group that you were in charge of two years ago. Like, no, it's a completely different scenario and it would be completely awkward and it would not work. That would be oil and water would not work. Right. Okay, Vince. So actually, let's get to this super chat here. Okay. I forgot that Patrick dropped it in. I don't want to forget it. Thanks for the super chat. Patrick, he says apologies have previously brought up, but how much of an impact does it have with Mike Elko tutoring Riley Leonard for two years? Thanks for the great show. Thank you again, Patrick. So what do you think impact on the Mike Elko impact? Well, first of all, yeah, first of all, Mike Elko was not the quarterbacks coach, nor was he the offensive coordinator. He wasn't tutoring Riley Leonard in anything unless he needed help maybe in a math class or something like that. Like he, he's a defensive guy. He's not an offensive guy. So that part means nothing to me as far as that part of the question. Now, what I will say to this is Riley Leonard went up against Mike Elko's defense in practice every single day. So who has the advantage here, Sean? The guy that saw Riley Leonard go up against his defense or the guy who actually went up against his defense every day. I think you can make a case for either one to be perfectly honest with you. So I look, there's advantages on both sides. I don't think that, again, there's a lot of storylines that are attached to this game and rightfully so. And it gives us a lot of fun things to talk about. This is also not something that this game is going to come down to. It's just not. And it goes back to what we were talking about before with the fact that Notre Dame is not sharing a lot of video of Riley Leonard out there again, like there is a connection between Riley Leonard and the guy who's the head coach now down there and he's a defensive coach, Mike Elko. Like you said, you know, so like does he know Riley Leonard's tendencies? Sure. But there's a reason Riley Leonard knows Mike Elko's tendencies too. Right. And so does Mike Denbrock because Mike, you know, they've, exactly, I guarantee you that one of the things that they're doing, you know, is you've got the entire off season. You talk about analytics, departments and all that stuff. They have put together all these cutups. You know, the question is ultimately going like you can have a plan. But the question is, do you have the personnel being bingo to pull off the plan and I still think that that is advantage Notre Dame slash Riley Leonard slash Mike Denbrock. Absolutely. And look, you can know Riley Leonard's tendencies and that's all well and good, but you know, he's got a lot of talent around him who he can get the ball to. And just because you know what a guy is going to do doesn't mean you can stop it. I just don't, I don't put, you know, yes, there's, there's, I would be nice. I mean, you might know what Riley did with it. You might know Riley Leonard tendencies, but again, like you don't know what pass routes these everyone's going to run on any given way guys, the guys on the field still have to cover. Right. The guys on the other side of the field. There's so much more that goes into it, you know, like, like, do you know, if you like to throw right versus left, okay, you probably know some of those things more, you know, you know, does he like to run right versus left when he bails out of the pocket, those kind of things. Right. Okay. You have some of those tendencies, but the end of the day, you still, it's still have to go out and try to execute it and I think that there's more advantage for Riley Leonard than there is my cocoa in that instance. Correct. So long time college football writer Ralph Russo from the Associated Press took a look at the last 10 years of preseason college football rankings to predict who will actually make it into this year's 12 team college football playoff. So here's what the last 10 years say like this is a little bit analytics that we're going to throw out here. So four of the five teams in the preseason top five will make it, you know, again, this is based on averages for the top five teams in the preseason top five will make it into the field. Two teams ranked between six and 10 will make it into the field. One team ranked between 21 and 25 will make it and three unranked teams will make it in. So do we have to use this criteria or are we just guessing on our own? We were using this criteria. So for saying for the top five, see Vince is already just like he thought he had a plan. God, but did he execute the plan correctly? Nope. I thought I knew your tendencies and it didn't matter. So yes, so we're saying if this is the case, if four of the top five teams are going to make it in, who are the four teams going to be? Sure. Who's the one that's left out? So here's the top five Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon, Texas, Alabama. Plain and simple, which of those five teams gets left out? 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Here's okay. So Georgia plays Clemson, Alabama. These are like their toughest, the toughest games, Clemson, Alabama, Auburn, Texas, Ole Miss, Tennessee. I mean, you said before, that is a really tough schedule that Georgia has to play, but they're also still one of the most talented teams in the country. Ohio State has to play Oregon, Penn State, Michigan. Michigan has to play Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin. Interestingly, Oregon also plays Boise State in a non-conference game this year. Texas plays at Michigan. They also play Oklahoma, Georgia, Texas A&M. Alabama plays at Wisconsin, Georgia, Tennessee, Missouri, Oklahoma, Auburn. I'm just going to say, it's either going to be Georgia or Alabama. I'm going to say Alabama is going to be my odd team out with the new coaching staff. Based on my rankings, Alabama will be the team that's out. Okay. So there you go. All right. So we've so far got Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon, and Texas in. If we're just going, again, we're playing the numbers. Right. Ralph Russo has said here, four of the top five teams get in. So we're saying Alabama is the odd team out. Right. So two teams rank six through 10, we'll make it. Where are the teams ranked six through 10? Ole Miss, Notre Dame, Penn State, Michigan, and Florida State. So two of those teams make it, and the other three get left out. I have three teams in, but I will say Notre Dame and Florida State would be my two. I've got Notre Dame in, Ole Miss goes to LSU, they have Oklahoma, and they have Georgia. So my question is, do they win, like can they get in losing two of those games? The problem is I have Ole Miss is the fourth best SEC team. So that's why I have them out, but the problem, the, the other problem is I have Alabama as the third best SEC team. So that's why I had them in. I'm just going to go Ole Miss and Notre Dame. I think Ole Miss and Notre Dame. Wow. Florida State. Who's going to win the ACC? Clemson. We're going to get to them. Okay. Actually, I need to, I need to, I forgot to compare those schedules. Like I did all these other schedules. Look at Salty's question, bring Salty's question, because I'm not exactly sure what he's trying to say. Is he trying to say that we, like we shouldn't be using these, this criteria, because the criteria doesn't matter, like he's saying something about, this criteria is tough though because there are different rules in this playoff scenario that you have to follow. So it's tough to kind of follow these particular, but I mean, that's what, you know, that's again, you know, like he, obviously because of the fact that the four, you know, conference champions get the buys and all that stuff, obviously, he took a look at what they would have been, if it was. At that as well. Yeah. Yeah. It's, yeah, it's not just straight up rankings, obviously, but because for one, we're talking about pre-season rankings. We're not talking about the rankings at the end of the season, the, the, the averages say over the last 10 years that these teams and these spots would have made the playoffs. If that makes sense. It does. It does make sense. Again, I know I threw, I think I'm with you, I'm gonna go Notre Dame and Florida State as well. And I, and I think the fact that they play each other helps out the loser of that game. Okay. Basically. So I'll, I'll, I'll agree because Florida State has an easier schedule than what Ole Miss has because Florida State basically has to play Clemson and Notre Dame. Whereas Ole Miss, again, they've got to play LSU, they've got to play Oklahoma and they've got to play Georgia. And if somehow they end up in the SEC Championship game, then you got to duplicate there as well. This next one is very difficult. Yeah. So now you got to pick one team ranked between 21 and 25 that's ultimately going to get in. Because again, you know, this is what the averages say, you know, like, like just like the averages in, in the preseason polls say seven teams that start off in the polls are going to be out, you know. So like the averages say that a team that starts out ranked between 21 and 25 is going to make the playoffs. So which team in the preseason AP pool ranked between 21 and 25 is going to make it Arizona, Kansas, USC, NC State and Iowa are your choices. That's tough, man. That's tough. I, look, I've got, of these teams, right, I've got Kansas third and the big 12. I've Arizona fifth, I've USC fourth and the big 10, NC State is nowhere to be found and I was nowhere to be found. So using that criteria, I guess I've got to go with Kansas, but I'm not sure the big 12 is going to get three teams in. Right. So I'll say the big 12, well, do we have any teams from, from the big 12 in so far? I don't think we do. We don't. No, we don't because there's none that are ranked high enough to answer our first part of the question. Right. Because like the middle part of the poll, Utah, LSU, Clemson, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Miami, you got a bunch of, you got a bunch of big 12 contenders in there in the middle. So right. So that's why this is a, this, that's why this is tough because you're guaranteed to at least get one big 12 team in and there's not a big 12 team in the top 10 right now. Right. And you know what I mean? So like, I think you're not you, but I think this thing is overlooking the rules that the conference champion automatically gets in. And the odds of it being Utah, Oklahoma State, this is just strictly looking at the ranking. You know what I mean? You're absolutely right. So like, you're not going to predict a perfect field and what Salty's saying is he says what he's saying is the data was built on a 14 playoff. No, it's not. He's trying to, to cross a play to a 12 team playoff system that has no data yet. Again, he's going off the final rankings. And if there was a 12 team playoff, right, he's saying, if there would have been a 12 team playoff over the last 10 years, statistically speaking based on the based on the averages, these are the teams that would have made it in like the base, you know, like what they start out. Here's what it shows. They would have made it in if there had been a 12 team playoff. He's not using a 14 playoff system. Yes, we also know that a group of five will make it in Salty because he also says that there are three unranked teams, which would be the group of five that will make it in and a group of five in this case. And typically every year, the best group of five team doesn't start off ranked in the top 25. So like if you look at the others receiving votes, you got Louisville, Virginia Tech, Boise State, SMU, Iowa State, Liberty, Washington, West Virginia, Memphis, Nebraska, Wisconsin, base of San Antonio to Lane Appalachian State, Kentucky, Auburn, and Colorado. See, that's tough because none of those teams are getting in except for a group of five team. Right. And like, you know what I mean? Like it's just going to be the highest. Yeah, it's going to be the highest ranked group of five team and like looking at some of these group of fives that are in those others receiving votes, like Boise State plays Oregon week two Boise State feeds Oregon. Then everybody's likely going to be checked up because Oregon is probably in a lot of people's brackets, right? To Lane plays Oklahoma, Memphis plays Florida State, UTSA plays Texas, for example. And remember, all you got to do is be the highest ranked group of five team at the end of the season. You don't even have to actually win your conference, although you're probably going to have to win your conference to be the highest ranked team, but like, so any of those teams there could lose to the power 14 that they're playing and ultimately end up in the playoff as well. John says Liberty, going back to Liberty. I had Memphis as my group of five, but it was kind of picking numbers on the head. That's the direction I'm going. Yeah. That's the direction. Especially because they do play Florida State. So even if they lose that game and it's relatively close, I think they'd have a good chance. Yeah. And they can it in. So what, you did all the work, tell me, tell me the field that you predicted without this crazy criteria being thrown in there, screwed everything up. Well, clearly I didn't read the instructions of the assignment. So as a teacher, I failed the assignment, but, you know, it is what it is. So my top four seeds are Georgia one, Ohio State two, Florida State three, Utah four. Okay. They get the buy. So those are your conference champions then basically wrecked. Correct. So then I've got Oregon five. I've got Notre Dame six, Texas seven, Clemson eight, Alabama nine, Penn State 10, Oklahoma State 11, and Memphis 12. Okay. So I like that. Yeah. So some parody in there and Notre Dame gets some nice match ups in my opinion. But that was just happenstance with where I ranked that. So who would Notre Dame be playing? So they play Oklahoma State in the first round at home, right? That's, that's, I don't think that would even be close, if I'm being honest. Then you've got a rematch with Florida State, obviously at a neutral field. And then the way I have it set up, it would be another, not a rematch from this year, but a rematch from very recently, Notre Dame against Ohio State in the final four, so some advantageous, you know, in my opinion, advantageous match ups for Notre Dame. So because look, at the end of the day, I'm not going to get in too deep on it. But at the end of the day, I don't see Notre Dame losing Ohio State three times in a row. I just don't like they're not afraid of Ohio State anymore. Yeah. Like I just, I just don't see how they lose that game. So there you go. I like that. That'd be awesome. Yeah. Notre Dame and Ohio State matched up in the seven, my final be freaking great. Yeah. Then I've got Notre Dame losing to Georgia. So there you go. I know it all comes crashing down realistically, you know, I'm sure we're going to do some predictions and things like that. I think Notre Dame can win two games in the playoff this year. And then yeah, I do too. And depending on match ups and things like that, we'll see how it goes. But in this particular scenario, I liked the match up with Ohio State. You know what I mean? And so I had them winning a third game, but then losing the fourth game. And so it, you know, it just really depends on who you get matched up with. So I'm just thinking you got a quarterback like Riley Leonard, you know, like a little, you got like a little Vince Young national state. He's healthy. You're long? Yeah. I like it. I'm saying it. I like it. But it's a long way to go between now and then. That's for sure. Absolutely. All right. There's all Vince. I sure do. I'm sure you do. And you should. You should absolutely. Why would you be afraid of Notre Dame? No against Notre Dame, you should not be afraid of Notre Dame. Notre Dame should have won the game. They didn't. Ohio State went and won the game last year. There's no two ways about it. I give them all the credit in the world for winning it when the chips were down and they had to go win it. They won it. And I just don't see Notre Dame allowing that to happen again. That's my point. So anyway, I think, I think the way it worked out, I think I like your picks better than you know, trying to weave a rank. Because like you said, I think the one thing that obviously isn't accounted for are the automatic quality. Right. Like in this whole formula that he tried to set up because rankings are one thing, but that still doesn't apply to your, you're trying to predict in August, who's going to win conference championship games the first week of December when you obviously don't even know who's going to be in those games. So. All right. That's going to do it for tonight. One of the great questions between we and we out and the mailbag, and we do appreciate it. We will be back tomorrow, of course, with the more Ivy Nation sports talk hit the like button before you leave, subscribe, rate and review and all that good stuff. And again, much appreciated. We will talk to you tomorrow on Ivy Nation. Thank you. Bye. [BEEP]