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Andrew Gilmore, George O'Leary had survived his scandal at Notre Dame. How do you think he would have done? He'd have been Bob Davies. He'd have had all of Bob Davies' good years, and none of Bob Davies' bad years. That's fair. That's fair. Never would have been a title contender, but never would have been five and seven and four and eight, and those type of teams. They'd have been seven and minimum seven and eight win teams every year, and then they're veteran-laden teams of the one, 10-11, played in a New Year's Six Bowl. He'd have been a good coach there. Not a great coach. He'd have been a good coach there. Yeah, good. Not great. I'm with you on that one. I wasn't upset about the hire at the time. Now, I'd be lying if I said I knew who all the contenders were and everything like that, but I wasn't upset with the hire when they made it. I felt like they hadn't... I wasn't in love with it, but I didn't hate it either. Right. Exactly. That's a good way to put it. That's a good way to put it. Yeah. That's a good one, that describes my emotions perfectly. We're on the same page. Right. It's a smaller hire. Like, "Okay." You know, especially after Bob Davy, it's like, "Yeah, I'll take that." Somebody that actually is competent. Exactly. I just look at the competence. Because he had a track record. I mean, yeah. Absolutely. He had a better track record than Ty had one good year at Sanford. Right. You know? Right. And they were pressing at that point. I mean, they... Oh, yeah. They were scrambling. They were scrambling. Right, exactly. The '80s guy with a Super Chat, thank you so much. I love that name, by the way. Does Notre Dame have to go 11 and 1 to make the playoffs? They have to go 11 and 1 to guarantee that they make the playoffs. Or 12 and no. Well, they can still get in it. There's a scenario in which they get in at 10-2, which is a lot harder. Absolutely. Yes. They need help. Definitely not exactly. They need help. You said that yesterday, Vince, at 10-2, they're going to need some things to go their way in the last month of the season, to give some teams third losses. Yep. Somebody gets blown out in the, you know, some two-loss team or one-loss team gets destroyed in the conference championship game, you know, and that drops them behind them, those type of things. Listen, look, and I hate to say this, but it is true, you know, if you're trying to decide, you know, whether to put Notre Dame in as like a 10 or an 11 seed or something along those lines and you're up against a third or a fourth SEC or big 10 team, right? Viewer ship is going to come into play. I don't know how high up on the list it's going to be, but as we've said in the past, you know, I don't know how viable it is for, you know, 9, 10, 11, 12 and that name. Sometimes 10, 11, 12, sometimes nine to 12, how viable it is for them to win the championship. Okay. So, well, if we bring in this particular team Notre Dame, for example, at least we're going to get some serious eyeballs on that game. Yeah. Yeah. I think that will, I'm not saying that's to be all involved. All things being equal, that could be a final deal breaker. There you go. But I think the thing that's going to hurt Notre Dame is at that point in time, I don't know how good their resume is. Yeah. I've defended their schedule compared to some of the conversation comments I've seen about it from Notre Dame fans. Oh, it's soft. It's terrible. It's not that. Yeah. But it's also not a gauntlet where I'm going to sit there and pound on the table saying, well, you lost a, you lost to these two really good teams. And so now I, you know, you didn't, who'd you beat? You didn't, you didn't beat him, but yeah, but we're 10 and two, they're nine and three. And as I've said before, if George is nine and three and Notre Dame's 10 and two, there's a pretty good argument to be made that George has two or three better wins than anything Notre Dame has. Right. Yeah. That's the reality of it. So, yeah, I do think you need to go, I do think you need to go 11 and one to feel great about it. 10 and two, get you in the situation where you're now, you're now, like you said, Vince, you're now hoping that some other things happen, you know, and 11 and one, you're going to feel real good. And, and I think you should also feel real good about hosting, to be honest. So 11 and one, you're great. You're in great shape at 11 and one 10 and two, it gets a little bit more dicey and it just depends on the landscape. So now, yeah, agree. Prize picks is America's number one daily fantasy sports app with over five million active members. Prize picks is the easiest and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports. 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I think Great House is going to be fantastic, but I also think, and I'm predicting Great House is arguably going to be your number one, but I think Chris Mitchell is going to have something to say about it. No way is it a given. Exactly. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Joe P.M. 17, what is Elko going to throw at Leonard, spy and make him throw it to the perimeter? Yes. I don't know about spy. I think blitz a lot, get him on his heels. Don't let him get comfortable in the pocket. Something that Notre Dame had some success with early in the game last year. Force him to throw the ball wide and downfield. Have your safeties rob a lot to take away the RPO game, the glances and things like that, which is what Notre Dame did to pick him off last year, because they brought Xavier Watts down and he jumped in front of a, I think it was a glance route and picked it off and set up their field goal, which helped him go up 10 nothing if you remember that interception events. They'll do a lot of that kind of stuff. Just don't let him get into a rhythm. So pressures, bringing your safeties down, make him throw it wide and deep. If you're any team, if Riley Leonard's going to beat me, he's going to beat me from the pocket throwing outside and down the field. And if he beats me doing that, then best of luck to you, because I know he's going to beat me as a runner and throwing short to intermediate stuff, if I don't take that away. A spy is not going to prevent Riley Leonard from getting his yards on the ground. It's just not. I've never been a big fan of that. Me neither. Because, you know, you can take a spy out of the game to be perfectly honest with you. You can take a spy out. And so I don't, I would not do the spy thing, but everything else that you just said, I agree with on how you try to take him out of the game, make him feel uncomfortable, have to do some things that maybe you think he's not the best at, you know, things of that nature. But at the end of the day, I don't think a spy is the answer. People seem to go to that a line. And I'm not saying you specifically Joe, but too many people are like, just spy him. If he's a mobile quarterback, you just spy him. Well, you're also taking somebody out of the defense, which I don't think there's also things offenses can do to counter that. Right. I mean, there's plenty of things I can do. If you're going to spy a linebacker, there's plenty of things I can do to, once I've figured that out to take advantage of 100% yeah, I don't like that at all. South ball 42, can you see a scenario where all the winners of the power four conferences have two plus losses? It's possible. Yeah. I mean, I'm almost there. Yeah. I mean, I don't know undefeated teams. Yeah. So yeah, it's absolutely possible. Yep. Absolutely. Yeah. I spanky who you've met. You've met spanky. He was in Ohio State. Ohio State. Yeah. To this day still swears when I got out of the car, because he's always says he could sack me and I got out of the car in a parking garage. He says that you put the child proof locks on the car to not let him out of the car. Seriously. That's what he said. I was in the backseat, by the way. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. His friend was driving. That's correct. FYI, because you were typing to put like where you were trying to get a signal and all that. And I was in the backseat behind the driver. Right. I'm not exactly sure how I could have done that. Throw it out there. So spanky is known to put fallacy. He's my boy, by the way, people, just, you know, Jason's my guy. This is wait a second on what planet does an Irish Protestant. By the way, I'm not a, I'm not a, you know, whatever, from Ohio that moved to Virginia and know how to make Alfredo such a place does not exist. So for those who don't know, there's a threat on the board about, are, yeah, Fred is awesome Vince. You know, I've talked about it. So here's how you know, I married an Italian. That's how I know. And I learned, you learned, learned, yeah, because unlike some people, I can think outside the box and it moved beyond my comfort zone when it comes to certain things. So he said, I bet a million dollars that Vince was driving. So not driving. Yeah. But Jason, he says, he kept making weird noises every time he turned to bend. So now he's just throwing out insults, Jason's my guy. That's the one thing you're missing on the message for Vince, I've now shared two recipes of my food. I put my, my, my smash burger recipe that I made and I put the picture of the one. That's why I asked you for that photo. Oh, I saw that one. I saw that. And it read last night, somebody asked about my personal sauce and so Vince's daughter's Meghan Bida. Oh my goodness. For as well. She's so excited about it. The last thing she needs, but she is so excited about it. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. Anyway, Joe PM 17, how or why has opinion on Chris Mitchell warmed up? Practice production, mistaken first impressions. I'm not sure I understand the question. Is he saying that we had a negative opinion of Chris Mitchell to begin with? Yeah. Because I never did. I don't. I don't. I don't understand the question. Yeah. So mistaken first impression. If you go back and watch our video of getting Chris Mitchell, we were both very happy, but I certainly was. I don't know if we did a show together. I know you and I don't talk about it, but was very happy about that pickup. Been continuing, you know, I have said he hasn't done a lot in practices so far because they haven't targeted him a ton, which I don't expect them to. And I also said, I don't care. Right. Like a day he had a couple, he's had a couple drops in practice. I don't care. Because if you go look at his film last week, didn't drop the ball, right, it redrops on a hundred targets. So I don't know where you're coming from on that takeaway. My opinion on Chris Mitchell has always been high, always. So I'm going to have to agree to disagree on your take about our take. Yeah. Chris. Clay Murphy, who would be your pick to fill deuces spot if he leaves? Thank you both for all you do. Thank you, Clay, for hanging out. Not even going to get into that. Clay, because right now he hasn't left in class and we're working on keeping him and I'll share that opinion if we ever need to have that conversation. So and honestly, I don't have an answer for you because I haven't thought of it. There's no need for me to worry about that until there's a need to worry about that. It's wasted brain space right now. So if he flips, then I'll address what I would do a quarterback. If he does it, then I'm not going to waste that time diving into who would replace someone he's currently committed another day. If that changes in the next couple of weeks, then we'll have that conversation. Magchamp one question for you both. When was the last time you were this confident in the squad, making a legit push for national championship? That's a great question. I mean, like, I thought the 15 team had a chance if Brian Vingore didn't screw it up, but I always had that big if it's a big if. I thought the 18 team could be there, but I didn't feel that going into the preseason. To win a title, I thought they could be really, really good. 2018 is probably the last time I had thought a Notre Dame had a team that was complete enough to make a run. It just came down to, could Brandon become a better passer quarterback? That was the conversation going into that season. And then obviously Ian took over a quarterback, but that was always going to be the concern was could Brandon take his throwing game to the next level? Because that team coming back in 18 events had a lot of talent. Now, we didn't know that Miles Boykin was going to become what he was, but he had a great spring. I mean, we used to watch him beat Julian Love like a drum in spring ball. Do you remember that? How just he abused Julian Love during spring practice, but we knew the O line was going to be solid still, even though they lost a ton, they had some talented guys. They were talented, you know, Chase Claypools was an ascending player. You had a dynamic quarterback, but really the reason why you were excited about that team was the defense. I mean, you had a ton of linemen coming back. Jerry Tiller is going into a senior year, Akwara, Kareem, Ogandiji, Daelyn, Hey, Daelyn, Taelyn Hayes. You had Drew Trankel coming back, Tae Von Coney coming back, Julian Love coming back, Troy Pride coming back. You had a little Gilman stepping in the lineup. What was he going to provide? Jay Lenelli. So that's probably the last team that I felt this confident in, but even that team had more concerns than this team had for me. Definitely had more concerns than this team had for me. Look, if I'm being honest, a lot of years run together, and I'm usually fairly positive going into the year now, the difference for this year is I have a lot more faith in the offense than I have recently. I've had a lot of faith in the defense over the last five years, give or take. This has always been a defensive driven team it feels like since I've really been analyzing it and getting into it and things like that. This is the first year I felt really good about the offense. I feel good about all of the position groups. Obviously, there's still some question marks on the offensive line, but these are questions where you're talking about highly rated guys stepping in. You just don't know how good they're going to be. So yes, it's a question mark, but it's not like they're pulling out walk-ons and crazy stuff like that. I still think there's still a talent there. For me, I feel the best about both sides of the ball, and then you can even throw in special teams, and I still feel really good about this team. There doesn't appear to be a weakness, still some questions going in, but I feel confident. Again, I want to push back a little bit on a legit push for a national championship. I need to see this team play first to feel good about that. But I make it all play off, I feel real good, and I guess that would be making a push. I think their roster, comparing it to other rosters, has a chance they can compete for a time. That's different than saying they're going to because of all the things you're saying. But I think we both agree, which is why we have them both in the championship game, that the roster is such true, that this team can make a run. For 2015 is the team that had the best roster to make a run at a championship. But the problem was always Brian Van Gorder. I said it in 2014. I never said it publicly because I don't public advocate for Coach B. Fire, but I told everybody that knew me back then, like if they don't make a move at defensive coordinator, he's going to be the crypt tonight to this team. But that team in 2015 was freaking loaded. They were really talented before all the injuries. But I feel if you had a real defense, I've said this a million times, Vincent, I'll take it to my grave. If Mike Elko and the 2017 staff were on the 2015 team at Notre Dame, and that's the only change that you made at Notre Dame, even with the injuries, I think that team wins a national championship. I mean, they took Clemson down to the wire and played like garbage. And still they were two point conversion away from tying Clemson on the road. They were Brian Van Gorder being awful from beating a top five Stanford team on the road. That was a, remember that Stanford team went to a ballgame in annihilated Iowa in the Rose Bowl. That was a phenomenal Stanford team and Notre Dame outplayed them. And it was, it was all about Brian Van Gorder couldn't do anything. You know, like you put a real coaching staff on that side of the ball, that team could have beat anybody that year, anybody. Right. And, and that's what was so frustrating about that season. Right. So frustrating about that season, because it was just a pissed away opportunity to truly challenge for a championship. Sure. And you got completely outclassed by Ohio State in the ballgame, because the only team in the country that had a roster comparable to Notre Dame's that year was Ohio State. And so, you know, to me, that's kind of, that's kind of how I look at that one, but it was, you wouldn't have had to play them. That's the thing. You wouldn't have had to play them. And because they would have not been in the playoff and you would have been. Sure. But, but, but also by that point in time, Notre Dame was so beat up and so short. I mean, Sheldon, they got hurt a couple of games before and, you know, it was, Joe, Joe Schmidt was banged up. Remember, they ended up putting Jared Grace in the game. And one of the biggest, what if players in Notre Dame and my fandom is, is what if Jared Grace doesn't hurt his knee, like just have his knee blown up a couple of years before. If Jared Grace is Notre Dame starting middle linebacker in 2015, things are very different for that team, in my opinion, very different. But yeah, there's so many of those, what ifs, you just get kind of sick of talking about that thing. That's why this program's had way too much of that crap. Yeah. Some of it's been bad luck, some of it's been been self imposed, like Jared Grace can hurt that there's nothing nobody did anything wrong there, just sucks, sucks, just happens. But there's other things like you can control who your defensive coordinator was, right? You controlled who your strength coach was, simple as that. 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Jay, since Smith, if for whatever reason, they have to go back, go to a backup quarterback. Do you think the decision is different in November, December than September, October, probably, but probably. But it also goes back to who are we talking about for a game. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. We've got Richard out for the USC game and he's going to be back for the first round. That's probably still Steve. If we're talking about Riley going down against Florida State and you've got the next several games coming up, sure. The other thing too is what's their record. If there's still a playoff team, that might change compared to they're already out and most likely out. And now it's about building for the future. Sure. So there's a lot of things that would go into whether or not that would be the case. Right. Yeah. A lot of, a lot of different points to make. And, you know, gosh, I hope they don't have to make that decision in either one of those scenarios. But at the same time, you know, there's a lot of different things that hinges on. Yep. Here's one that I thought was a very, very interesting question. Very good question. Chief Brody just hopped on. So I apologize. If I apologize that I missed the predictions, but is Notre Dame a legitimate title contender or more of a quote? If everything goes right, they can maybe contend quote type of season. This is you and I have had some fun with predictions in the past where we'd have Notre Dame to play off. And I think I hadn't heard him to play off last year, but it was more of a if all these things go right. This year's team. I just, I expect this team to be that. Yes. I expect this team to be that kind of squad. I expect this team to be a top five team this year. I expect them to get to the playoff and make a run. Those are expectations because I think they have the team for it. Whereas past year was a, I think they can. This team should. And that's the difference. That doesn't mean they're going to do it. Right. But in the past, it's, it's, I think he nailed the difference in past views of how we thought about Notre Dame. If this, this, this, this, this happens, this team can do this. Right. This year's teams more of a, well, yeah, they should do that because they have this. It's not ifs anymore. Now it's just play to your be you. Or in the past, it was like, if this guy is ready or sooner than later, you know, then you expect or if this guy's better than you hope for whatever this team is going to be pretty good. This team just flat out should be pretty good. That's just how it should be agreed. And VR likelihood that Buckner re enters the quarterback room of CJ car wins the starting job by the end of spring 2025. I think it depends on a couple of different things. Okay. It depends on if guys leave for the portal. And that's kind of probably what he's. Yeah. And I get that. So if one or two of the guys hit the portal, then you have to have a discussion. Okay. You know, for depth purposes, do we just ask Buckner to come over to quarterback and be a depth piece with the understanding that you are the backup that, you know, you're not competing for the starting job, you know, you have that conversation. Or do you go to the portal to bring in depth pieces. I'd do both. Yes. There you go. Part of it depends on who they do, who they get at 25 and quarterback. Sure. Right. And if do Snite still part of the conversation and you change that because like one thing I would do with Tyler Buckner's is I would move him back to quarterback and I would have a package for him like they had in 2021. To take some of that pressure off CJ. Sure. As a first starter. Right. Yeah. Correct. Like, hey, we're just going to throw this little change up to mess with teams early and just like they did in 2021 with Tyler. It's just coming into a run. It's just to throw teams off and give teams something else to game plan for something else to prepare for. Yeah. That takes a little bit of that pressure off CJ. I do something like that. But, you know, again, it just depends on on who's I mean, like it does Kenny and Steve both leave in your scenario. Is it just just Kenny is it just Steve. It's just one of them and do Snite still on your team with Anthony Reesak. Tyler's my emergency quarterback, but he's not reentering the quarterback room. Yeah, we're safe. So that would be the difference. Right. Yep. Mark Avalon for Keanu Kia losing a year to injury along with a two year mission and the linebacker recruiting going so well. Does he have a real future at Notre Dame. I mean, the injury doesn't help. It doesn't. And it also depends on your definition of a future at Notre Dame. Like, are you is your definition of future at Notre Dame him being a starter? Or is your definition of a future at him and Notre Dame coming getting his degree and being an integral part of special teams. Yeah, that. Yes. That's a future. I mean, that's an important to be both. Absolutely. Had a very good Notre Dame career. He's in the NFL right now trying to make a team. And I don't know that he was never a starting line back. I mean, there's some games. He was the first guy out there because they'd started a nickel package, but he was never starting linebacker, but had a great career. He was a captain at Notre Dame never started to linebacker. I have a future there. So if that in that regard, Mark, Vince, I, yes, you're spot on Vince. That's a, that's a future. If you think he's going to eventually be a starting line back at Notre Dame, I don't know that that was ever going to be the case, but it could, could Kihano Kia be a too deep guy in a few years and a great special team. Like I could see Kihano be a Kia being the type of guy that's a team captain and not a starter. Yep. I'll bow bowler. You know, he's going to be 24, 25 years old mature guy, you know, and, and, and hard worker and start on all your special teams and all that kind of stuff. I could certainly see something like that happening. And in that regard, he has a future. Absolutely. Now, I want to see how he comes back from the injuries. That's going to be a question, Mark, but I see a lot of the same things that Kihano Kia that we saw in bow bowler. Great coach. I'll do whatever you need me to do. You know what I mean? You need me to rush quarterback or rest quarterback. You need to play Michael play Mike. You need me to run down and crush people on special teams. I'll run down crush people on special teams. That's why bow bowler was a team captain and her name despite never being a starting line. Exactly. Exactly. And I think Kihano Kia has a lot of those same traits. Absolutely. I don't think Hano's is as explosive as bow was. He's a but he's a little bit more lateral smart and he's a little bit more instinct. He's a lot more instinct than bow was. That was Bo's biggest knock. He just wasn't. He didn't have like that real natural football IQ type of thing that that that that other line, but like Jeremiah was the core of Mo had. You know, and that's something like that's something to hurt Osmar Balau. It's something to hurt Shane Simon. And it's what made guys like drew white and JD Bertrand so effective. And not everybody has that. You know, Jalen had that knack. Manti had that knack. Tae Von Koney had that knack. Tae Von Koney was not the greatest student in the world and not always the most disciplined guy off the field. But on the field, Tae Von Koney was a very smart instinctive football player. That's why he was so productive despite being a very average athlete. You know, some guys just haven't some guys don't and some guys can learn it but most you either have it to some degree or you don't. That's that's kind of where it comes down to a bit. So next question. It's a good one. All right. Mr. 2.0. Does Gabriel's injury mean he could potentially be eligible to play next season would be helpful since they'll lose both starting defensive tackles. Well, Gabriel Ruby is already eligible to play next season because he redshirted his freshman season at no right. So now if he comes back and only plays for regular season games then, you know, could you maybe try to get a medical red shirt. Sure. But he only played in like the only game he played in in 2021 was the ball game. Okay. So he has two years left anyway this year plus next year. No matter what. Yep. Would he get a sixth? That I don't know. Like he won't get a sixth if he comes back and plays at the end of the year. Right. It would only be if he misses like most likely if he misses the whole season. Right. Agreed. I don't think that ever happens. I don't think he has the balls to do that. Right. It won't be bad enough and it won't be. They won't levy the kind of sanctions that you're looking for. And so you won't see a mass exodus anymore than you would after a normal unproductive year from Michigan. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think that happens. I think they're going to get like, they're going to get stuff that doesn't matter. They're going to get sanctions, probation that doesn't keep them out of the postseason. Sure. Maybe they take a postseason band this year. Right. And then it's over. And maybe they get a couple of scholarships taken away, but they're increasing it to one of five. Right. And so, okay, let's say they take away five scholarships. Okay. So you only have a hundred. So you bring on five walk-ons. You only have fifty more the next time. Like, that doesn't even, that's not even a slap on the wrist. Right. You know, so, yeah. Archer. What's up, Archer? Four, five, two. Quincy Wilson, one, an Olympic gold this summer and starts his junior year of high school in a couple of weeks. How hard of a time would you have going back to school after being the pinnacle of a sport? I wouldn't. I'd get home schooling. I'd be focusing all my time on track and endorsements and just get my degree. So I can maybe go run, I don't, can even run in college now. I mean, well, he's in the hands on the college. I mean, you have to get, I mean, you can't, not with your GED. No, no, you don't have to get your G. No, I know. I'm not getting your high school diploma. You don't have to be at school. Right. You can be home school. What I'm saying is there's no way he's got enough credits right now to go. Oh, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is he's going to do his schooling somewhere else. I'm getting tutors. I'm getting, I'm doing distance learning. I'm doing all types of things. I'm doing homeschool something. I'm not going back to school. I'm just going to be Quincy from down the way. You know what I mean? Like, just not, you know, that's what I would do anyway. I mean, if I'm already an Olympic athlete, I mean, because I'm going to be getting NIL deals. I'm going to be traveling to different, competing at different events and it's like I'm going to run for the high school track team. You know, and, and, yeah, so I, I, yeah, by this point in time, I don't, I wouldn't care much about that. If I was him, he's going to have plenty of socialization from all the track stuff he's going to be doing and things like that. That's a, it's a wild situation, Vince. It is a wild situation. One that you'd have to really sit down and talk about and you know, the conversation would be what do you want to do? You know, what, what do you want to do? Do you want to, do you want track to be your entire life at 16 17 or do you not want that yet? I think that's a legitimate question for a kid. I think nowadays that answer is very easy. You're one of the best in the world at this, you know what I mean? It's like 10. We see what, like this is unique for track, but we see this with tennis players all the time. I get it. No, I told him it was all the time and these individual sports is kind of like, yeah, that's, that's, I have a window here to do something that I can't guarantee that window is going to be here in two years. You know, you got two, you're only 16. Yeah, but not everybody stays on that same path. I get it. Right. So that's, I would still sit down and have a conversation with them. You don't force it on. What do you want to do? Yeah, you don't, you don't force it on them. The question was, is, is how hard of time would you have going back? So I'm answering the question. Okay, for me. There you go. Fair. I don't know this kid at all. He may love being in high school. I'm saying if it was me and if I was in those shoes, that's what I would do. Gotcha. I wouldn't care about high school. Right. I would find a way to do both. Yeah, I'd get my degree. I value the degree. I think I'll just leave the rest of my opinion of myself. I would find a way to do both. If this was 20 years ago, I'd say there's a lot more value to being in school than there is now, but we don't need to go down that road because I'm going to be respectful to you. So here's the last one, Vince, that we have for the, the, uh, the show. N. D. Milton fan. You're at dinner and after a couple of bites of your wife's meal and the taste is unbearable. What do you say that gets you out of eating the food and also doesn't get your wife mad at you? Well, this is hard for me to think about for two reasons. Number one is I do most of the cooking and number two, when my wife cooks, she's a very good cook. Now I got this. Okay. So your wife makes you a meal. You don't like it. That's the premise here. Honestly, I don't even know that I can answer that question because my wife is very good about making food that she knows I like. That's fair. And when she's going to make food that she knows I don't like, she'll try to find a recipe to make it bearable. So like we found a really good recipe for brussel sprouts. I don't really like brussel sprouts, but we found a recipe that doesn't include a lot of butter and unhealthy things that makes them edible for me. But if she made some unbearable, I mean, honestly, I would, I don't, Vince, you know how sensitive I am to, to sounds touch taste. I couldn't force it down. Like she would know, and she wouldn't make me eat it. Yeah. But I'd be like, babe, I'm just, I just, this isn't, I don't even know how I would have that conversation with her. Like, no, I just, I would, what do you say to get out is, you know, I just, I don't know, say you're not feeling well, like off some got real sick, real sick, you know what I mean? Like, I guess something like that. I'm not quite sure how I would handle that question because I've never, 16 years of marriage. I've never been in that situation where she's made something that I just couldn't eat that she didn't already know ahead of time. I may not like that's fair, because like she would make things like for her, and then have me try it, but then she would always have a side option for me if I didn't like what she made. And then vice versa. Right. So, yeah, I don't know how I would do that, but I mean, like. I mean, so here's, is she, is she making something new that she's not sure if you're going to like, or does your wife not cook that much? And now she's cooking to be sweet and it's terrible. And you're reminded why your wife doesn't cook. I'd be very curious what the scenario is for why your wife's food is unbearable. Because like trying something new compared to she's just not a very good cook. And, but she's trying to be sweet. If she doesn't cook that much and she's trying to be sweet, I would do my best to force it down, but I just have a hard time doing that. You know what I mean, I physically, because if I eat something I don't like, I get a gag reflex and it's gonna, it's no way to hide that. You know what I mean, I get it. This is how I've always been man. Yeah, my poor mom I mean she'll tell like, she would go like hours later clearing off the table and she would pour the milk out for my drink and realize that that's where all my kale went. You know what I mean, because I put it in my mouth and then drink it and put it in my, and it go into my milk because I couldn't do it. I mean, I just couldn't do it. My wife's way nicer than my mom. My mom would just like, you know, you need to meet some green so here's collards like well that's quite elite from I don't eat any greens now I need to eat this kale. You know what I mean like front you know cook kale. My wife is much more let's try to find something that you can tolerate where my mom was like eat it. That's how all of our moms were though they had to be because we have cookies and exactly I get it. I'm not blaming or saying like that's how it was so it was a dance. As far as the scenario for me, I completely agree with you that we have a discussion prior to dinner about what we're going to have and it's rare is it something that I don't like. And I do have my, I believe me I have my, you know, tendencies when it comes to eating okay. There has been a rare occasion where my wife has made something that I didn't like, no to no fault of her own. This is my fault. I can tell you right now exactly what I did was I ate everything on my plate. I didn't go back for seconds. But I ate everything on my plate. Was it on was it unbearable. I mean to me, but like not. But she also kind of I literally can't eat something unbearable. Yeah, I get that like because you know how I am. I do. Yeah, I get that. I'm not happy that I'm this way but I'm just. But I can't even remember the specific circumstances. It's even like I'm not a fan of chili, for example, my wife wants to make chili every now and again. I'm a fan of it. I think you would like my chili though. It's not unbearable. Right. So I will never say that. It's not unbearable. It's just not not my cup. Because you don't like the beans. Is that what your deal is? I don't like the texture of the beans. Right. I think you would like my chicken chili. Okay. I think you would. I'm up to bring you some of these. Put it through and you know you work your way through it. Yeah. And she knows I don't like chili. That would be something that I could probably tolerate. Yeah. But but your point though is the texture part that you talk about. That's the thing that can get me. I'm cool with taste for a lot of different things. A lot of texture stuff is like that. Yeah. But yeah. But again, we don't make stuff that neither one of us doesn't like. You know what I mean? Like we've gotten to that point in our relationship where we can. And whenever we are going to try something that we're not sure about, there's always a backup plan because like I've been trying a lot of new things lately. So like a couple weeks ago, we made a there's this way to bake a radish in the bake radishes and like, you know, cut them up and almost like you do potatoes like little potatoes on them in half. And you like just take a little bit of butter and then mix it in the butter and then you put like garlic a little bit of salt and pepper and then you roast it for 20 minutes. And I'm like, because I don't like radishes like to me like a really sharp taste that I don't like. Gotcha. But these, but however you cook them in the olive oil and a little bit of butter and the garlic and stuff, they come out and they taste sweet. Gotcha completely changed the flavor and we found a recipe like, Okay, cool. We'll have some radishes. So now I can. And I tried artichoke made artichoke found this recipe online make an artichoke I'm like there's no animal like artichoke but you know what I'm gonna try it because it's some of the list of things I need to try. Love it now I love artichoke so sometimes I've tried things I come out wow I never thought I'd like but I like it. Yeah, but, but even when we do that though there's always a backup plan. We have other things and like you know okay we don't like this as much you know and I get that. And I will say, because of our station in life, having five kids, many of which who are very picky when it comes to their food. We don't experiment very much you guys will do more of that when the kids are going bingo and that that was going to be when it's just Liam, he'll do more of that. But he'll be eating something different, but we'll send the Liam's will be around for a while. Yes, he is. Yes, he is but yeah we don't experiment very often in this family because it's just not worth asking us to give him PBJ and then you guys can try something good. Right. There you go. 100% 100% or when he leaves to go to work you guys can try some stuff bingo yeah bingo bingo. That's the last one right. Okay, hey everybody thanks for hanging out with us really appreciate you guys also really appreciate the love all summer long of me doing shows with Brian, this is, I love summer. I love having a chance to do the afternoon shows on a regular basis with Brian it's things that I have to go back to work. But it's made that much more fun because of all of you. I appreciate that very much you know I'm reminded constantly about the Ivy family I've got a an inbox over on the on the boards that I have to answer you know a question from somebody that I want to make sure I get after and you know this is this is a family I appreciate you guys and you know not that I'm going anywhere just going to move to you know full time nights and weekends essentially right and but man I'm excited about this season if you can't tell based on my playoff predictions and everything else and my Notre Dame predictions I'm excited about this season and what it could be and I know Brian is to and and thanks for making the mail bag a lot of fun as well really appreciate that so without further ado make sure you hit the like button the subscribe button that notification bell share with your family and friends of course jump on the boards boards at Irish Breakdown.com we'd really appreciate that and you won't be disappointed with again the the Ivy family and everything that comes with it so for Brian I'm Vince and we will talk to you next time on the Irish Breakdown podcast so so so so so [BLANK_AUDIO]
