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Here's what Notre Dame Quarterback's coach Gino Godouli says surprised him the most about Riley Leonard when he got to see him play healthy for the first time. He's got better arm strength than I anticipated, like when you get him in live play, that ball really comes out of his hand. When you see him run and extend plays, whether that is in quarterback run or he's just scrambling to pass, like he doesn't look fast, but like he's out there out running safeties and corners to the edge and it's like he's faster than you think because it's deceiving. So just what does it say that Leonard's arm strength and his speed are the things that have surprised Gino Godouli the most so far? I think what it says is that this offense is something that we should be ultimately even more excited about because Riley Leonard's arm strength means that he's going to have the ability to push that ball deep down the field. Basically, when you think about it, he's Ian Book with more size, more arm strength and honestly, what sounds like a little bit more speed, basically getting around that corner. And so when you're in an offense like Mike Dembrot, after a while, you can't just keep checking the ball down or throw in the five yard slant routes, flood routes over the middle 10 yard routes and you have to be able to some point set up those deep shots with more of the intermediate kind of short stuff, right? And so I think it's a testament to how explosive this offense can be really because now you have the defense on its toes of, okay, are they going short? Are they going to go long? And his ability to drive that ball down field, I think is just going to open up more avenues for this offense. And likewise, you know what this legs is too, it's going to be fun to watch him extend place. It's to me kind of like Patrick Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes doesn't have blazing speed, but he's got enough speed to extend place, pick up those three and four yards on a third down where maybe the pocket collapses. Again, he's not going to be like Lamar Jackson, right? Like he's not going to be out there juking and pulling away from guys, but he's going to have enough speed to extend place and help the offense continue drives essentially. I think that's essential. And I'm sure that some of that arm strength surprise comes from the fact that when Riley Leonard was at Duke, he wasn't really asked to throw the ball deep that much. I don't know if it's maybe just like they didn't have that kind of receiver. Most of what you see when you go back and you're watching some of these old games of Riley Leonard is a lot more shorter to intermediate type stuff, kind of, you know, maybe what you were saying there more, more like Ian books. I'm sure that's caught him off card and you know, just it hasn't, the ball doesn't always look the prettiest, those, those deep balls when you see Riley Leonard throw them deep, but they are getting there. And the fact that you've got such an increased speed element in this wide receiving core and those things that you were touching on there, drive the ball deep, all these different things. That's going to look a lot different. And the thing with the speed is like, I think what has struck most of us in the media seeing Riley Leonard up close is just how big he is, like how tall he is and, you know, how, how filled out for a quarterback he is as well. He doesn't have like those, those shorter choppier sort of Ian book kind of, you know, strides to him. Because the really long, you know, like if you watched any of the Olympics, the, the difference at, you know, like when especially like in a 200 or a 400, like the difference in these taller guys with the really long strides that they have and their ability to continue to gain ground on these shorter striders, I think that that's got to be part of what pops as well. And, and like Gino was saying, his ability to get the corner is so much easier when you're a long strider like Riley Leonard, and you have the athleticism to go with it. So just, just kind of piggybacking on what you were saying. I think that it's going to be such, such a fun added element that we're going to see offensively this season, bringing Mike Denbrock in obviously as part of that, but having a quarterback with this skill set like Riley Leonard is just going to look a lot different than what we've got used to seeing over the last few years. Yeah, I mean, it's ultimately just going to be a quarterback that's a playmaker, right? And I think I'm not trying to say he's passionate with my hoes, but that's the kind of style of play that you want him to have. He's not going to have the same arm strength, obviously the same ability, but that's kind of, he's going to be a style of play, I believe is just, you know, the ability to, to really extend plays and have, you know, the arm strength to get those balls down field when needed. It's not going to be in every, every throw type situation. But again, you have to be able to set up those all different kind of routes. You can't just be, you know, sticking to, because then defenses can sit in zones that are, you know, covering that, you know, five to 20 yard, you know, kind of pocket, I would say in the defense. So you have to be able to, to get the defense on their, on their toes. So speaking of Riley Leonard, here's what the new Irish quarterback had to say about one of his new teammates, freshman quarterback, CJ Carr, when he was asked if he sees any similarities in Carr compared to Leonard when he was a freshman. Not really any similarities. He's like way, way, way above where I was as a freshman, like honestly, like night and day. What makes him so impressive? I think his mental preparation and his will to learn and he's just so eager to, to develop himself as a quarterback and he just loves football, like, obviously he has a family that's been around football his whole life, but he just loves football and a lot of freshmen at the time are here just coasting trying to figure it out. Oh, that new school, like, let me go to this, go here, but he, he really just wants to watch film and hang out with us. So, yeah, we're there enough, some, some amazing to raise. Yeah, he does and, and, and I try to give him advice every once in a while, but I mean the kid really doesn't need too much advice to be honest with you, like, I don't know, he's pretty dialed. Pretty dialed. Some pretty high praise from Riley Leonard for CJ Carr. What's that tell you about Carr, Jess? I think the, the, the thing that came to mind most was he's an old soul as, as a freshman. He's a guy that's super mature. He talked about his, you know, ability to learn, his eagerness to learn, and he's just a football guy. He wants nothing more than to be good at football. He's not distracted by, you know, what's the, the extra curriculars that are going on outside of practice or, you know, just stuff that ultimately can kind of get you in trouble, right? If you're going to be a good football player, you have to constantly, you know, be a student of game and just commit to it ultimately. So he just sounds like an old soul that's, you know, a senior that's in a freshman's body, essentially, at the end of the day. And so I think that's really a good sign for, you know, the, the overall quarterback development. And it's just going to push everyone else. It's going to push Minchi in the room. It's going to push Angeli in the room. It's going to push whoever, you know, comes in and, as, you know, the quarterback next is he's, he's going to set the standard for what it means to be a quarterback. And I think that's something really exciting to see. I mean, I think he's going to set a new standard for what it means to be the quarterback at Notre Dame. That's, that's TBD. But I think that that is in the not too distant future. We're going to be having a lot of different conversations a year from now. But to hear it is worth noting that, that Riley Leonard had a much different recruiting profile than what CJ Carr had, you know, like coming out of high school. We talked a couple of weeks ago about how Riley Leonard basically, he was planning on being a basketball player coming out of high school. And then because of, you know, some, some different factors in his connection to David Cutcliffe. It do, you know, his coaches, his high school coaches connection to David Cutcliffe at Duke. That led to a path there, but didn't take Riley Leonard long because of that athleticism to escalate up the depth chart. I think he said that by week five, he went from scout team to starting within a week at Duke, you know, so that, that obviously says something about Leonard. And so for him, again, a guy who's a year ago is getting NFL looks and is, and is going to have a lot of NFL eyes on him this year in his final year at Notre Dame for him to say that CJ Carr is just that more advanced. I think just, just says a ton about CJ Carr because again, you know, like we all know the lineage that, lineage that Carr has with, with his grandpa Lloyd in Michigan and, and all those different things. But I think that it's just like, we, we've played a cut from Gino Ghadouli about Minchi and Carr yesterday. And it just, it just feels like everything is pointing to CJ Carr is coming. It's not if it's when CJ Carr is coming. You know, how quickly that rise actually happens. And it's, it's honestly, it's pretty exciting because there've been, there's been a hype around other quarterbacks coming into Notre Dame before. But not one with this kind of polish probably since Jimmy Clausen and because you add the, the whole Carr family name factor into this, I think it takes it to another level even. So what a fun thing's coming with CJ Carr in the not too distant future. Prize picks is America's number one daily fantasy sports app with over five million active members. 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We go ones and twos at practice but we don't have ones and twos in our room. We have five guys that are playing equal, we're rotating them and different guys start the period every day and that's been the best thing for us. So just to kind of remind anyone or remind anyone who was here yesterday or refresher for people who weren't here yesterday. The five guys are Jack Kaiser, Drake Bowen, Kingston, Villiamo, Asa, Jalen Snead and Jaden Osbury. And again, like when you listen to Max Bulla, they're not just rotating five guys into these three spots. There's not a traditional first string and there's not a traditional second string. All these guys are going to play and they're all going to play a lot. And some of like if this guy sees the field, depends on okay, who else is on the field right now, that kind of thing. So I mean, you basically started playing linebacker when you were what, seven or eight years old and played it for 14, 15 years or whatever. So what do you think of this plan that they're going to use this season? So obviously when you hear this, it's not traditional, right? But I think that Notre Dame has an abundance of talent at the linebacker position. And at the end of the day, you have to find a way to incorporate all that talent on the field or one, you're doing a disservice player, and you're doing a disservice to the team. Because, you know, no one as a player, I would rather, you know, play or sorry, yeah, play, you know, maybe 30, 40% of the snaps compared to zero snaps, obviously there's going to be guys who, you know, amongst those linebackers are going to play more than others, but you're going to be able to utilize what they're good at and you're going to be able to get them on the field. And so for a group that doesn't have a big gap between the players, right, like that's ultimately what it is, the talent gap between these guys is so small that you have to be able to find a way to get them all on the field. And really what this reminds me of, like when I actually saw this online the other day, I think it was on Twitter, it reminded me, do you remember Georgia like two, three years ago, when they just had that stud linebacker core where I think literally all of them got drafted? I mean, they did pretty sure Pollack did, you know, a sit down before college game day with them and just talked about, you know, basically the same thing. There was a group of five to six of them and they all played and he asked them like, are you guys comfortable with that? Are you guys comfortable with, you know, sharing reps essentially? And they said, you know, we are going to do what's going to make our defense the most fast, the most athletic. And that year, Georgia had one of the top defenses in the country and it obviously didn't hurt the player because they all ended up getting drafted, right? So at the end of the day, I think this is what's best for their defense. And I think it's what's going to be best for them as players as well because you're going to get, you're just not going to be as many upset or grumpy players because they're not playing because they all have the talent to play, right? And so if you're, if you're just trying to, you know, stick to this traditional of ones and twos, well, I guarantee the two is going to, you know, feel some type of way and be like, you know, I'm just going to hit the transfer portal. I know I can play somewhere. So I think it's a good way of getting everyone involved. Well, you know, there's a lot to everything that you just said there. One, and Max Bolas said it in, in, you know, another comment that he had when we talked to him the other day. I mean, he played linebacker and what he said was, you know, look, I was on the field almost all the time. So this is a lot different than that. Everyone would want to be on the field as much as possible. Do you think, based on carnivoid, you're saying, do you think that this is more like, like, especially with, with the less experienced guys, like Jack Kaiser is one thing. These other guys are another thing, really, like, especially with those other four. Do you think this is about, you've got four guys who are really even and, you know, rip roaring and ready to go, or is it more about, okay, maybe this guy is ready to go, you know, like Kingston, Villiamo, Asa, for example, he's really stood out as a pass rusher and a blitzer. We haven't got to see him necessarily as much like as a run stopping type middle linebacker because we haven't got to see live reps and those kinds of things at practice. So is, do you think this is more about trying to mask deficiencies or truly just play to the strengths, I guess, or just a mix of both because it kind of seems like that's what it is? I think, yeah, ultimately, I think it's a mix of both. I think there is, I think there's not a lot of talent separating that group. And I think they're having a hard time kind of figuring out, you know, how do you, how do you pick one or the over the other instead of just being like, okay, why not look at as we have this group and let's kind of play them all. And then like you said, I think, naturally, you're going to get into, you know, maybe Drake Bowen is more on your run downs and KVA is in on more, you know, some of those passing downs or you bring him in a five man blitz or something like that. I think there is obviously going to be things that one is better at than the other. Right. And it's finding that kind of cocktail of, okay, here's when we want to play him, but we know that even if like they have enough talent to play, like they could be a standalone starter, you know what I mean? Don't get me wrong. But again, it's like filling in the pieces almost, it's like, to me, it's like what a baseball team goes with the bullpen day, you know, it's like they find a way to kind of work a guy for two innings, three innings, two innings, one inning. It's like, okay, we trust you enough to be effective for that period of time, but we know you're not going to be the most effective if we put you out there for seven eight innings. So it's kind of how I view this. Are you in on Jack Kaiser needs to be out there as much as possible because he's the most experienced someone to set the defense, you know, that's, I think that's a lot to ask for like a true freshman and again, maybe they're really good at it. But you know, the stress of not only making your reads and playing at a high level, that's already hard as is. And so it's someone with like Jack Kaiser has the more experience of actually playing. I think he should be kind of handling the more of, okay, let's, you know, relay the calls, let's get set as a defense. Like I do think that you kind of have to have one person out there that is the consistent, you know, foundation of and everyone else is kind of, you know, rotating around whatever that snap share looks like. But I do believe that you want someone like a veteran out there to be able to handle, you know, those sort of things. And I do believe it's fair for kind of the contrarians to sort of look at this and doubt the plan, I guess, because there is so much youth and this is the biggest question that the defense has is the linebacker core and exactly what this is going to look like. But I find myself pretty intrigued and excited with this plan. Like being able to, you know, again, like some other stuff that Bulla talked about was, okay, you know, when some of these guys, they'll go to Viper potentially, like in the nickel package, when the rover comes off the field and a defensive back comes on. And now you put a guy like Jalen Sneed or Villiamo Asa up there at Viper because they're, you know, they're even quicker twitch and they can do one of two things. They can get downhill and get to the quarterback or they can also defend space pretty well. So I think it's pretty exciting. And I'm also not on like they're doing this to try to appease people, you know, like just to try to keep everybody happy. I don't think that's what this is about. I think that it is truly they have a bunch of young talented guys and they're just trying to find a way to get that, you know, one, that skill set on the field, but two, not put too much on any of these young guys and want to overload them. Yeah. And just play to their strengths as much as possible. And I think naturally, too, there's going to be someone who is, you know, ends up playing better. So it's almost like an open audition as well, because as my season goes on, the roles can change for sure. Right. And I think it becomes very situational, which is nice because now you have more pieces to kind of put the puzzle together of how, you know, maybe this game playing calls for this or maybe, you know, there's going to be teams that are more run heavy. There's going to be more teams that are past heavy. There's going to be more teams that you want to try to create pressure for. And so I think that's definitely a factor. And yeah, like I said, like these guys are all playing so well and at a high level. And it's so hard to, you know, like we don't want to determine ones and twos, well, go ahead and go out there in a game. And that can be, you know, how you're going to determine ultimately who's going to get more who you, I think Marcus Green was saying is who you can trust more out there given the situation. Are you worried at all when you are rotating so many guys so steadily that they can, like they can get caught, you know, like, Oh man, like, you know, trying to, like you, like you should have substituted or one of the comes down to coaching. I think you have to get them to buy into the concept and their role of what they're contributing, right? And it's like, it's like the hockey rotations where guys are coming in, you know, specifically to kind of do their role. And I think that's where you have to make sure to get through their head is, you know, we want you to do your role and we want you to be really good at it because that's what's ultimately going to help this team reach its next level, help this defense reach its next level. And so as long as there's just open communication and no one is surprised or caught off guard. I think where you get into trouble is basically what Brian Kelly did when all of a sudden it was just, Hey, you guys are splitting time at quarterback and it's like no one knew that you got, you know what I mean? It's like no one knew that they were just splitting time. Not even those guys knew that that was even, you know, the possibility. So if you can communicate that upfront and just be completely transparent and everyone knows their role. And so it's like, okay, like, for example, you know, Drake Bowen, you've been telling them all week, Hey, you're going to start the game. Start the game. You're going to come in at some point and then also now KVA is the starter come game day. Like how is Drake Bowen supposed to feel when, you know, he's been preparing and been told all week that one thing, you just can't let those sort of things happen. Right. Exactly. Fill in the blank Notre Dame nickel back Jordan Clark says, finding Irish wide receiver Jaden Gray House reminds him of Raiders receiver Davante Adams. The comparison is blank. The comparison is freaking electric because of Jaden Gray House can perform like Davante Adams. Like this offense should just go like he should be a thousand yard receiver. You should have 10 touchdowns. Like this often should be a top offense in the country. And if great house is playing like Davante Adams, I don't think he has nearly the height. And I don't think he's, you know, maybe as filled in as Davante Adams is. I don't, maybe you can fact check me on their height here real quick. But, you know, to get that sort of comparison is just something that makes me as a fan even more excited and like I said, electric for the season because we know what this, if this offense has a wide receiver like that and if they perform at a certain level, we know what that means in terms of how they're going to perform on the national level. And, you know, that's ultimately what's been missing out of this offense the last few seasons is a wide receiver like Davante Adams. So it's like you could say those things, but don't get our hopes up because that's exactly what this offense needs. I know. You know, like there's a lot of hype to, you know, being passed around with the, with some of these guys offense all feeling themselves when these comparisons come and everything. They're both six foot one officially. So you got that now is great house as filled out is Davante Adams, probably not for a college guy. He's pretty filled out though. If anything, you know, I do like the comparison. If anything, like probably the biggest differences to me because I think speed and skill set where, you know, some of the things that Jordan Clark was talking about and the size comparison, but like Davante Adams is more savvy. Like he's the guy, he's, he's just a veteran wide receiver who knows those soft spots, knows where to sit, you know, knows what he needs to do to get himself to the ball. That's something that Jaden Greyhouse kind of, you know, has to show that he can do more of. And you don't expect a freshman, you know, like he was last year to maybe have that kind of savvy right off the bat, you know, like unless you're a Michael Floyd or, or something like that, you know, more unicorn than anything. But I think that what Greyhouse has shown at least especially in comparison to how the Raiders have used Davante Adams the last couple of years is, is Greyhouse is more positionally flexible. Like you, you, you definitely see Adams more as a pure outside guy, whereas Greyhouse is going to line up in the slot, he's going to line up boundary, he's going to line up field. So positionally, he can do a lot of different things and create some different mismatches and stuff like that. But I think it's a pretty fun comparison. That's what I hadn't really thought about till you're in Jordan Clark, talk about it. When it comes to towing, seeing is believing. That's why Chevy Trucks Advanced Camera Technology offers up to eight available cameras for 14 unique views so you can focus on the view that really matters. Chevrolet, together let's drive. Learn more about Chevy Trucks at chevy.com. Safety or driver assistance features are no substitute for the driver's responsibility to operate the vehicle in a safe manner. Read the vehicle owner's manual for important feature limitations and information. Ryan Reynolds here for I guess my hundredth mint commercial. So Jesse, Brian Driscoll trying to find himself a new NFL team. My question to you, if you're going to ditch the Cowboys and find a new NFL team, who would you choose? So I narrow this down to three teams, the Dolphins, the Chargers, and the Lions. I think all of them make very compelling cases. I think first of all, you can't go for a bandwagon team. A team that's already successful, because at that point, you're going to be called a bandwagon fan, right? Obviously, you're not going to pick a team that sucks, and so you're not going to go with the New Orleans Saints or the Carolina Panthers or the Arizona Cardinals or those sort of teams. There's nothing really exciting about them. But the things I like about the Dolphins, one, I love McDaniel's. I think he is, I would love to play for him. I think he's a great coach. I think he's very personable, very relatable. I like seeing him out there on the field, you know, the way he talks and communicates with his players. He's a tremendous head coach. And I think what's also my role about him is how young he is, you know, his offensive mind. I think that's something Brian could appreciate as, you know, the way he has designed that offense to be around Toa and Tyree Kill. Those are exciting things. The Chargers, and it's like if you can remove Jim Harbaugh and everything that's happened at Michigan, like he's going to be a good coach for the Chargers. And so you combine that with Justin Herbert, they have, you know, they have the pieces there. And I think they are just on the brink of, you know, getting into something good there with it in terms of the Chargers. I mean, that does make a lot of sense because I agree with what you're saying. You can't pick a team that's especially been successful probably within even the last 20 years, if you're going to jump on a new team, right? And the Chargers have only been to one Super Bowl all time. That was what a year before you were born. So we're going on 30 years now at this point. The Harbaugh connection would be the only, you know, would be the only drawback. But other than that, you know, like, he's still a good coach, Brian's old school football guy and all that kind of stuff. And, you know, like he's, and they've got a quarterback, he's going to like that approach and they're going to be successful really soon. So I mean, they're going to be successful in the trenches hadn't thought about the Chargers, but you're exactly right on that. I like them all. The Dolphins is basically the Dolphins and the Lions were both teams that I thought of as well. Yeah. And I mean, it's just like how can you not root for the Lions? I hope, you know, Derek's not in the chat because I didn't want to say that out loud. But, you know, Dan Campbell is awesome, you know, being seeing how he is turning that, you know, franchise essentially around and getting them to really perform like it's, it's something you have to be excited about. And I wish I didn't have, you know, some close friends that were Lions fans because I think I'd be rooting for them more. But I secretly am rooting for them. I like the way that they're doing things. They've really rebuilt it. They're doing it, you know, piece by piece at a time. I think Dan Campbell is again, another great leader of men and it's like they're just, I think missing a couple more pieces on defense in the secondary and I think they have, you know, that some of those pieces at wide receiver at quarterback, they've rebuilt the offensive line. And I think what the best part about it is Dan Campbell is going to squeeze everything out of them. There's nothing in that team that's going to be left short. He is going to get maximum potential out of there and probably exceed your expectations at times. I mean, I said it two years ago before, the year before they made the playoffs and that was the year they did hard knocks, and they beat the Packers, knock the Packers out of the playoffs in the last game of the regular season, it's like, it's a very hard team to root against until they play your team, basically, and then they're easy to root against. But like the whole, I wasn't sure how this whole Dan Campbell thing was going to go, especially watching, you know, some of that hard knocks. It's like, is this just an old school kind of not head kind of foot, you know, just football guy. That would Dan Campbell, and he likes to quote Metallica and everything else, and like, you're absolutely right. I don't think that Dan Campbell can be criticized for not getting the most out of his team. He absolutely is at least last year anyway, and I think the year before that, even when they were building up to it, he's definitely got the most out of his team the last couple years. There's going to be a lot more expectations now that a vision now is getting better as well, but it's an easy team to root for. Like, if you're a free agent fan, the Detroit Lions are very easy team to root for, I think. I mean, honestly, the only thing that might keep Brian from picking the Lions is a common someone who we both know, Brian and I, who is a big Detroit Lions fan, that might be the only thing that would keep him from that. So that would be my guess that three good ones. I would actually have to put the chargers, I think, at the top of the list because it's coming with Jim Harbaugh. And I think like you, the good point you made about just, you know, like, what is there not to like that? They have a really good quarterback. They're going to be really solid in the trenches. Joe Alt just got drafted there. I mean Notre Dame's secondary coach is now out there, like, there's a lot of pieces that would be next year. There's actually, yeah, there's actually a lot of Notre Dame connections out there. Yep. That's right. Fill in the blank. Your least favorite NFL TV personality is blank. Um, can I give you two? Sure. Why not? You know who one is. Kyle Brant is up there. And I think then, Dan Orlowski is my main answer. I like Kyle Brant. I love Kyle Brant. I thought you were going to come with Kyle. I thought you were going to come with Kyle Brant for sure at the top of the list. The thing that, I think the thing that makes me frustrated about Kyle Brant is I like, I like, you know, good morning football. I like the NFL network. I like him, but he just can't ever give up the Cowboys stuff. And so like as a Cowboys fan, I get it. You're probably like, oh, he's the, he's the reality or the truth that you don't want to hear at times and, you know, da, da, da, da, da, but it's like, dude, you're, you always talk about, you know, that how you are annoyed with the nauseam of the Cowboys, but you are adding to it, you always are talking about the Cowboys. So that's kind of hypocritical at the end of the day. Yes, because I saw the rant that you tweeted and I was watching that yesterday. It's like every year, you know, like his thing is, well, how can, why am I supposed to believe the Cowboys are going to be any better this year than, than last year? They always get to the playoffs. They lose the playoffs. It doesn't matter. We have the same discussion every year. Well, the, the, you know, the other side of this has just become his whole stick is the exact spiel that he was spewing on yesterday, which is what I was just talking about. It's like, all you're doing now is repeating the same thing every year and the stick has grown old, you know, and it's just like, I still love him. You're right. Exactly. But, but that particular is just like, okay, like you're, you're, you're, you're, you're complaining that we're not supposed to buy into the Cowboys and, you know, whatever and all you're doing is, is beating the dead horse on the Cowboys. You're just basically hitting play on the same recording every year with what you're saying. Right. And so that's where it gets frustrating. And it's just like every situation is apparently Cowboys centric because at the end of the day, what, what got him going yesterday was the whole CD lamb situation and how, you know, this is always an issue with the Cowboys, all that they say, you know, Jerry's not going to pay the players and they pay, well, guess what contract holdouts happen with every star player on every good team. It's, and I'm not, I'm not trying to say this to be, oh, you know, look at me, but it's a good problem to be in when you draft guys that well and you have to find a way to give them money. It's, I mean, it's, it's a conundrum. And so at the end of the day, this isn't a Cowboys specific problem. Any Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, T Higgins, like every team goes to the, why do you think there's so many franchise tag tags because they can't figure out how to get these contracts done. That's a good problem. That is just for the Cowboys, but he finds a way to make it about the Cowboys and repeat the cycle of nauseum of talking about them, but getting tired about people talking about the Cowboys. All right. Give me your Dan Orlovski. Give me your Dan Orlovski. Dan Orlovski can't put any bias. He, he is, he is the most biased analyst. I think I've, like, he might as well just come out and say that he doesn't like this person and likes this person because that is the root of his analysis, like you have to be able to a person who is supposed to come on TV on a national level and talk about, you know, football in general, you have to get rid of those things. And he constantly gets called out by people that he's doing these shows with and he still will double down on. Oh, I don't know what you're talking about. It's like, just say you like it more because that's ultimately what it boils down to. Right. Because your ridiculous argument, you can't even back it up because it's obvious. Because the most recent one was they asked him, who would you take Mike Tomlin or Kevin Stefanski? He's like, well, Stefanski is a two-time coach of the year. Mike Tomlin is one is Super Bowl. He goes over 500 every year. Right. He gets teams that are average to go to the playoffs. What do you mean you're going to pick Kyle Stefanski? You know what I mean? Like, just say you like him more. I agree. I, I think that he is, he's the one who annoys me the most. Let's put it that way is Orlovski for every good point that he has. It's just like he just, there's, there's just too much of those tinges of the stuff that you're talking about. Like it's, it, it, he's all, he, he's coming at it from an angle. You know, it's like just, and it doesn't take too long to figure out the angle. It doesn't seem like. Sorry. I went on a little soapbox there. That's okay. At least Brent is, is entertaining. As long as he's not talking about the Cowboys, he's very entertaining. Orlovski. I actually like Orlovski talking about college football, like when he's in the booth in college football. I like that. I like that Dan Orlovski, I will have to say. But you're right. Like the NFL live Dan Orlovski, the talk show Dan Orlovski is a different guy. He knows his exes and knows that his football, but you're right. I completely agree. All right. Well, that's going to do it for tonight. Appreciate your Jesse for being here, appreciate everybody else for being here, as well as always. This will be in tomorrow. Jess will be in here in a couple of days. We've got another coaches player media availability later this week, so we'll have some of that. We'll hear what some of the coaches have to say later on. But in the meantime, again, hit that like button, subscribe, rate, review, all that great stuff. And we will talk to you tomorrow on Ivy Dan. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] (upbeat music) [BLANK_AUDIO]
