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Jeff Poor Show - Thursday 8-15-24

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(upbeat music) From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porshow. ♪ I don't think Hank done it this way ♪ ♪ No ♪ - Good morning, welcome to the Jeff Porshow and up until October '06, five. Thank you for being with us on this Thursday. What do we do, appreciate it, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. That's how you get touched with the program. If you desire, so desire through the text line, that's the way we roll here. On today's program coming up here, a 30 minutes, Carolyn Dobson running for that second congressional seat, very important seat guys. It's maybe not quite the slam dunk, it was a month ago with a different top of the ticket. I don't know, I haven't, I mean, all we are told about that seat is, it is, it's how to reach for Republicans or whatever. I don't know what kind of turnout Democrats are going to get now, Alabama, that remains to be seen. So that is, she's coming up in about 30 minutes. April Murray Fogel is, you can't get enough of her after her three days filling in for us. She'll be with us in the 10 o'clock hour. And then finally, first time on the program, but one of my colleagues in 18, 19 news really kind of broke the story on the, the Hayshid refugees that were bused up to Marshall County and are working at the Pilgris Pride Processing Plan, as if we, they're importing the labor. But Daniel Taylor is going to join us and we'll talk about that. I just, I'm not really doing it justice trying to explain what's going on, but he, like I said, they covered it. He is in Albertville where this took place. So we'll talk to him in that 11 o'clock hour. I'll see a few things here. Pulling data still coming in. The, the usual, I guess is showing the latest here, showing Kamala up a point or two. And she's, I guess I think she's got to run up the score. A lot of the so-called experts, and there was the data analyst on CNN, Harry, and, but Nate Silver, who's got a book out and he's the 538. guru sort of saying the same thing like, look, yeah, she's showing Vice President Harris is showing some momentum here. And even just taking the lead, but she is, she's really got to, she's really got to be a lot stronger to be pro to the United States. But I keep hearing this and then I don't know where this is. I don't really buy into this narrative. I don't know what else the Trump campaign can do. They keep saying, well, look, Trump needs to stay on message. Trump needs not to. He doesn't need to talk about race or whatever. I mean, I don't think anything Trump says is what is impacting the certain, the landscape right now. It's this media sugar media, like promotional sugar high. And it's kind of feeding on itself. It's, it's something you don't really see in politics that much. Like, okay, I get the momentum. And here's the other thing guys, and this is something got to be very careful of their convention is next week. And historically Democrats getting bump after their convention. And it's going to look like this is a potentially a lost race at that point. They're going to give them far more favorable coverage. They gave Republicans last month. And it's going to be, it's going to be tough. It's going to be tough not to hit the panic button. But going into September, you have to go into September, and then I think you really want to look at if it's time to hit any sort of quote unquote panic button. I don't know that it is. I don't know what else they could do. They're the candidate herself. I mean, she's just very protected, very guarded. And no one seems to be concerned about that. I don't think you're hearing it's, it's communism. It's price, the discussion about price controls. Have you guys seen this? Price controls on food. Something coming out of the Harris campaign. Float not trouble. And I don't know where that's coming from. It's 1974 all over again, right? It's Richard Nixon's cap on gasoline prices. Look, we don't have a shortage of food in this country. That's not what's the problem. We have an excess of money supply in this country. It's causing the value of things. Well, the value of things is relative to whatever the dollar amount, whatever people are willing to pay, I suppose. But the inflation of the money supply. We're hearing a little bit of that. It's interesting. Economic policy seems to be back. On the front page, I'm giving a speech yesterday. In Asheville, North Carolina, big, big turnout there. I think where they win this race, guys, you and I are already locked in. When you and I don't need to be convinced. Well, you and I, everybody except for James and Gene. But what JD Vance and Donald Trump need to do, they need to go to some of these abandoned oil fields, abandoned coal mines. They need to go to some of these empty factories. And say, you want this to come back when you need us in office. You got to start hitting there. You got to start hitting because these Democrat policies is where you make hay. I'm told they know this, but you don't want to use your best stuff. They're really worried about the bump coming out of the convention next week for Harris. Can she turn it on? I mean, how glowing will the media be? I mean, it's going to be absolute, no matter what she does. It would have to be like a face plant of binary proportions for the media, not to call this the best. Give it just speech ever. But they know this, they still got to run up the score to popular vote. And the other, the other part of this is the so-called blue wall. They may have some polling advantages. But the problem is as such that you're going to need to, you're going to have to need to account for the past discrepancies. You can't just say, okay, we got a two-point lead, according to this, this, this, quote, a PAC poll or whatever in Michigan. They got it nine points. There was nine points off in 2020. That's not going to be good enough. And then they're still going to have to spend money and resources. But I tell you guys, they're going to get a bump out of their convention, probably. But some of the narratives into politics, into political world, will kind of stale right now. I mean, it's sort of rinse, wash, rinse, repeat over and over and over again. And there's all this, the other thing I've told all of these reports about the disagreement or the internal turmoil of the Trump campaign is nonsense. It's just Anthony Scaramucci, a bunch of never Trumpers trying to stir the pot, trying to be relevant. They're doing what they need to do to get on television, to get CNN invite. Because it's not these people. They're not in the know that they are persona non grata that are out there saying that. So we're, uh, we're watching. I still think, uh, not as good a shape as it was against Biden, but this is definitely a winnable race and there's a lot of just sort of dispirited Republicans around right now. And in this, not the time, it is August. But right now, the, you know, the, the where they make their ground up where advance and Trump make their ground is the, I think the economic issues because economic policy that these Democrats are trying to promote price controls and some of it is just stolen right out of Trump with the tips, uh, tax. But we're still waiting to see. I mean, no one really knows what they're for or against and we'll see. Tim Walts, uh, last night at a $25,000 per ticket fundraiser in Boston called himself the anti Tommy Tuberville. Now, you see what you want to do about coach like him or not? But, uh, I don't, I, I, I don't know what that means. He comes to the anti Tumbler Real in this context that he was a football coach. Guys, did y'all know that? He was a football coach at a high school defensive coordinator. And I think they, they're somehow the media trying to give him credit for the team success that came after he got his job at this high school in Minnesota. He never went beyond the high school ranks. Obviously ran for Congress and then governor, but he's trying this moniker of being a football coach. Look, guys, they're, I am, I'm still shocked over this pick. There's so much explaining Democrats have to do for their vice presidential pick. But what's odd about all this, the ones who are making a lot of noise, I mean, we're talking about potential for two vice presidential debates. There's so much emphasis on the bottom of the ticket right now. And not real sure. It does good or bad. I mean, I don't like JD Vance, but people are still voting for or against Trump and for against Kamala Harris. Two vice presidential debates, I, I don't, I don't think we want that. I mean, well, the most consequential vice presidents went, Lyndon Johnson, because he had to step in with Kennedy with shot. But beyond that, I mean, maybe Dick Cheney had a role in policy. Mike Pence certainly wasn't a big player. Kamala Harris, she's at the top of their ticket now and no one saw her for you. Seemed like years during the Biden administration. When there was that, and I said this all along, guys, she, she could be light years ahead of where she is right now. As she used that opportunity as vice president to do a little bit more, give some policy speeches, be more proactive on the border, being out and about more. And she chose not to. Or maybe it's a situation where the Biden, the Biden in her circle didn't want her stepping out. I don't know, but she did not step out and you see a power vacuum there. She could have filled and she didn't. He had a weak president or a vice president. Who knows? Text slide two by one three four three zero one zero six. Let's get a break in here. We'll be right back. This is effing talk one oh six five. And in my hand, excuse me man, but where's the door? From Carolina down to Georgia, smell the Tasman and Magnolia, sleep is sweet home, Alabama, rural, tight road, muddy waters, Mississippi, blessed, and grace land whispers to me, carry home. I'll go back to the Jeff Moore shoulder from talk one oh six five days, you're hanging out with us on this Thursday morning. Two five one three four three zero one zero six. That's how you get touched with the program. If you so choose, I kind of put the next segment, Carolyn Dobson, running for that, running for the second congressional district. She'm already figures her opponent. Really, I to be honest, I think it's top of the ticket. So goes the second congressional district, some presidential election. So goes a congressional election. A few texts to get to here. Let's see. Good morning, Jeff. That's from Leo. And welcome back. Have you heard that Harris is going to advocate for grocery price controls? Yeah, we were talking about that earlier. Well, I, anybody else was responding to this. Does anybody think this is a good idea? Like who, who in this listing audience thinks that it would be wise for the government to be like, Hey, we're going to put a, we're going to put a price limit on how much you could charge for milk and eggs. What, what is that going to, what is that going to do? I think it's a disaster. I don't think it's corporate greed. I, I worked in a grocery store. You've heard me talk about it. The old burritos there. Now it's a pigly wiggly, but it used to be a burritos, airport and university. I mean, the margins are so, so small. Very small margins. And overhead, there's just, there's not a lot of, it's not as if these grocery stores are building their customers right now. The, the problem with the prices is it's the inflation. It's the monetary supply. This is another thing, guys, that she is the vice president of United States. How long have they been president? Three and three quarters of a year going back to 2021. And she's running as this outsider all day one, I'm going to do this. All day one, we're going to do this. It is day, whatever 1000 and whatever. Why don't you just do all of this now? Is it like you work device for the United States or something? It's like you can't go knock on Joe Biden's door. Hey, we need to do this. Other stay one stuff for Kamala Harris is a little frustrating because she has the power to do a lot of it now. And she's running as if she has no power. Uh, Dave, I didn't want to send this to you. I was a visiting friend. I was playing your show to photos. Her channel was listed, you ran about liberals. She made a nice fort. I attached a picture, maybe a coincidence, but my first chihuahua, they'll see built a fear booker. That shot, really mean that my son does the same thing. LV during Nixon, we had price controls on some foods such as meat, and they came out with all kinds of different cuts of meat named different things to avoid the price control. I'm kind of a all about going up into hills somewhere and buying some farm land. If that's what we're going to do, get somebody to get some tomato plants or something. James, Jeff, everything I've seen is going to make him lose from the racist rhetoric to the fact he's not going after Kamala Harris policy or whatever he could do to make America better. It's all about race, woman losing. It's all about her being a woman. It's a losing situation, but I don't think any of that matters. I mean, what is Donald Trump said that his front page headlines, everything, James, everything he says with the media environment we have now is going to be portrayed as racist or misogynist. I mean, you may think that I'm just right-wing, but you'll look at it. There's nothing he could do. We've been dealing with this for a better part of eight years. There is nothing Donald Trump can do that is going to please the media. They have decided, they have planted their flag in the ground that they can't let him be president again. They can't let him be partisan in the first place. So this messaging criticism, it's going to be there no matter what because the media are going to take away from whatever he says, what they want to take away to criticizing. All right, let's get a break here and be right back. This is effort talk 106 five. I saw the light. I saw the light. No more darkness. No more night. Now I'm so happy, no sorrow inside. Oh, and I saw the light. Welcome back to the Chupport Show it. If you talk with 065, they should be with us on this Thursday morning, 251343. 0106, text me and I got a bunch of texts to get to here. Lots going on. Still coming to program about an hour from Valley from Worry Fogle from Alabama today. And then in that 11 o'clock hour, my colleague at 1819 news, Daniel Taylor, so please stay tuned for that. Joining us now, she's running in the second congressional district against Shamari figures for that seat. Newly drawn, but we're always pleased to have Carolyn Dobson with us. Carolyn, good morning, are you? Good morning, Jeff. Thanks so much for having me. I'm doing great. How are you? Doing well, doing well. Thanks for making time for us. I know you're busy out there. Well, before we get into some of the issues of the day, talk to us a little bit about the campaign. Yes, no, it's been growing great. Just a lot of time on the road here in my gum rate this morning. We'll end the day in Washington County and then be down your way tomorrow. So just trying to keep the tires hot. We've got a lot of great momentum. Outraised figures in the second quarter, only one of two Republican non-incomments to do that in the entire country. So anyone listening who's contributed very, very grateful for that. And we're recently named a young gun by the National Republican Congressional Committee. That's a short list of the races they're really actively supporting for first-time Republican candidate. So very excited to have a lot of on the ground momentum in the district and also a lot of national support. Steve Scalise is also kind of nailing out details, but he will be coming to Mobile in October for an event to kind of rally the troops also. So really grateful to him for that. Now, you know, we've heard a lot from you throughout this campaign going all the way back to the primary. Kelly, I don't know what your opponent's running on. And I mean, I follow this stuff closely and I don't know if you, but like, you look at what's going on at the top of the ticket with the presidential race and the complaint being Kamala Harris, I mean, she's a blank slate. It seems like the same thing is going on with your opponent. Right, right. Now, I mean, and we've got some significant problems in this country. Our open borders, the rise of crime, the lack of opportunities in our country due to rising inflation, which has been caused by the Biden and his Paris administration, rampant and reckless spending and in combination with their efforts to undermine American energy independence. So, you know, if you look at the problems that are facing day to day Americans, you know, trying to buy a box of cereal at $8 gas prices, having increased a collective 38% to Biden and Harris took office. These are problems that are affecting each and every one of us and it's making it impossible to to live the American dream. I saw yesterday that in order to have the quality of life that we, you and I did, you know, say our parents made $80,000 a year to replicate when we were growing up to replicate that same standard of living, we've got to make almost $250,000 just to replicate, you know, just a financially secure middle class family life. And so, it's estimated that not only for this next generation, but the generation after that, that neither of them will have the standard of living that our parents generation did. So, it's really disturbing and there are already kind of, there's already been a reparable damage to our economy and to the futures of your kids and my kids and we've got to stop that. And the Democrats, you know, yeah, I mean, Kamala's marketing is, you know, she's going to fix it. Well, she's been the soul instigator of that problem for the past three years. She is part of the Biden administration. My opponent figures as also part of the Biden administration, part of the transition team, part of the weaponized Department of Justice. So, they've been the problem and Americans are not better off than they were three and a half years ago. We've got to have changed. We've got to have people that are going to Washington to work to deliver results to the people of District II, not folks that are already in Washington that want to, you know, pad their career and keep their lobbyists friends happy. Well, I tell you, the thing we're hearing today is kind of scary to me. They're talking about price controls. I mean, this is right out of like a Soviet-style type of economic playbook that's been tried in this country before. It doesn't work. But that's that's one thing we're hearing, or at least a tribal and be afloat it out. I mean, they don't really have any answers for the rampant inflation, do they? No, no, none. And I mean, again, growing up in the country on the farm, one of our parents' favorite expressions was nipping in the bud. But with so many of the problems that we have, we've got to get to the root source of the issue. When it's inflation, well, what are the two things we could do immediately that would have an impact on inflation and high interest rates? We could cut back on our spending and we could unleash American energy independence. We have the capability to be energy, not only energy independent, but as Senator Brit said in her address at the RNC, we can be energy dominant. We really have a moral obligation not only to Americans, but to the world to utilize every God-given renewable and non-renewable resource to further that effort. Those are two things that we could do immediately that would make a change. Again, and then you're talking about other issues, crime, drugs, nipping in the bud, we've got to secure the border. We've got to enforce the same Mexico policy. We've got to actually have meaningful foreign policy stances when it comes to Mexico. Mexico has just basically turned their country over to the cartel. And I think we don't, when our borders are, has been to the border once. How often is she met with Shine Bomb or any of the Mexican officials? I think we're never truly going to see a decrease in the number of people wanting to come here illegally until central and south America actually have stability. And so I think we need a much more developed foreign body of foreign policy towards our neighbors in the south if we're going to be secure. Joined by Carolyn Dobson. She is the Republican nominee and Alabama's second congressional district contest in November. No thing, and there's really a story that's really hit home here up in North Alabama, but I mean just the immigration/migration and the way some of these refugees or whatever you want to call them, undocumented are being moved around coming to Alabama. Simigration issue, I think, is lingering out there. The media are downplaying it, but right now, at least back here at home, it is very much front and center. Oh, absolutely. I mean, and you look at also the drugs as well. I think in 2022, about 1,300 Albanians died of sentinel overdose. Much of that was actually manufactured in China and then entered the US through our open southern border. So it's actually the impact of illegal aliens in our community, some of whom are criminals that were not apprehended at the border because of the Biden-Harris policy. But then also just the contraband that is literally coming across the border like drugs that are impacting. I mean, I had a god brother who died of a sentinel overdose here in Montgomery. I think it's unfortunately really hard to find someone who has not been touched by the sentinel crisis. Yeah, and I mean, it's just it's a matter of just really cracking down and does the, do you think your Republicans will have the stomach? Should they emerge victorious in November? I mean, I think you said it on the show a couple of months ago. I mean, we're just, we're going to start deporting a lot of those who are here illegally. Yeah, because, you know, and again, you know, I feel for people that are refugees that want a better life for their families. But because the Biden and Biden-Harris administration has just opened the floodgates without any system of vetting, you know, we now have eight to 10 estimated eight to 10 million illegal aliens, non taxpayers living here that are going to be such a strain on our social services, which were already drained, you know, and so, I mean, you look at social security, you look at the cost of healthcare, and then you have Kamala Harris saying that any person that's within our border is entitled to free health care. Any person within our borders is entitled entitled to free education. I mean, folks, we don't, we already don't have the money. It was $35 trillion in debt. We're spending more on debt service than we are on defense costs. And that, I mean, we will collapse unless we really take some effort to try to alleviate the burden that, again, borders our Harris has placed on our country and its resources. I mean, is that still, I ask you this every time you come on, is that really still what you're hearing when you're on the stump? Yes, you know, definitely have a lot of heartburn about our open borders and that's across the board. And that's not really a, and it shouldn't be. I mean, that's a matter of our national sovereignty. That really shouldn't be a political thing. And so I feel like across party lines, I was speaking to a group of mostly Democrats the other day, but they were nodding their heads when I was talking about the open border because it's harming, again, not only with the drugs and the crime, but just the influx of people is making it so much harder for the American worker to seek employment for them to have a job and, and again, not be paying for social services for non-tax payers who've never contributed anything to America. And you're right. There are burden on the local infrastructure. People understand, I don't, articulate this all the time. Yeah, sure, these people will come here and maybe they'll work on the farm or the factory or whatever. But there's also this added cost, right, that you don't realize and, you know, there's more traffic on the roads. There's a longer wait at the hospital. There's a, the need for English bilingual teachers because a lot of these migrants or immigrant do are accepted into the public schools. And like, we don't, we don't really think of that because it's not right out there in front. And we just kind of see, I guess some of the things that go on culturally or whatever, but that's such a big part of this. Yes, and, and also, but I mean, if, if, in securing the border, in enforcing the stay in Mexico policy, we also have to have meaningful reform when it comes to legal, legal migrant worker programs, H2A programs and H2B programs, which so many of the industries industry to agriculture, timber, construction, rely on these workers. Unfortunately, I mean, this just shows the hypocrisy of the Biden-Harris administration. But unfortunately, right now, an American business owner who is trying to go through the system and legally get a migrant worker to work on his nursery, for instance, and Sims. There are 100 nurseries that are based in Sims, so they utilize a lot of migrant workers or try to. You know, if they don't, you know, if they don't fill out the form, exactly right, they're far more likely to face repercussions, fines, potentially be shut down by the federal government for not, you know, exactly complying with the very complicated and burdensome red tape of our migrant worker programs, then they're more likely to face government action than a criminal who just walked across our southern border is likely to actually be apprehended and deported. So there's such a double standard right now, and we've got to make it easier for our business owners to, again, are just trying to get workers. And there are some areas, unfortunately, in this district where the workforce is just not there or it's not engaged, I'm sure as you know, the workforce participation right now, Alabama is 53%. So that means there's 47% of our able-bodied population is choosing not to work, you know, and so, you know, there certainly is a need for migrant workers. And if we're going to have immigration reform, we can't ignore that part either. Caroline, one of the questions I got yesterday, and I think you have some supporters out there, but they're not really quite sure how to coordinate with the campaign or what they need to do. Do you have an email or a website or something if people want to help out with the campaign? No, and I'm so grateful and we will take any and all help. This race is going to be very close. We are working hard to prevail, but it's going to take each and every one of us. It's all going to be all about turnout and election integrity. So we've got teams of folks, volunteers, if you're interested in door knocking or phone banking, or you just want a yard sign or find some other way to help, we'd love to have you. We also are recruiting poll watchers because, again, election integrity is so very key to ensuring that we have a fair election. So if you're interested in any or for all of those, check out our website, DobsonForCongress.com. We are also opening a mobile headquarters. So August 21st, 6 p.m. we will have a grand opening of our mobile headquarters. And that is, I don't have the address right off the top of my head. Why not? I do. Sorry, I grabbed it. Sorry, it's 3964 Airport Boulevard Sweet Sea. But yeah, that information is on our website about the grand opening. We'd love to have anyone who wants to come join us. But, yeah, no, mobile is so very important to the future of Alabama. And I'm very grateful to everyone who's who's indicated interest and been willing to help in this effort and going to be sending the majority of my time down in Mobile, which we tell in November and hopefully outwards. That's the, for those of you listening, it's a Pine Brook shopping center. You know, if you've been watching politics in Alabama for the, or in Mobile for the last few years, there's always a Republican headquarters or something out there at that Pine Brook shopping center. So that's what August 21st and what time? At 6 p.m. 6 p.m. So there you go. Those of you asking how to get a coordinate with the Dobson campaign. There's your opportunity. Carolyn, we always appreciate it. Best of luck to you. We'll talk again soon. I think that sounds great. Have a good morning. All right. Carolyn Dobson, ladies and gentlemen, we got to get a break here. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff Pore show with a fifth talk. 106 five. Walk away and know when we're right. You never can't. It's midnight in my gong. Just hear that with the wind. See the stars out of the purple sky. We'll go back to the Jeff Pore show. What up the talk? 106 five. Interesting with this on this Thursday morning. 2513430106. Text to get to here. Let's spread them out over the next couple of segments. Still come April. We're focused. Let's in the next hour. Also, you'll hear from Daniel Taylor, my colleague at 18 19 news. So please stay tuned for that. I wonder how many of 3.5 million plus new citizens will vote in the swing state? It is. I don't know. It bothers me that the margins are so close. Look, I'll say this about illegals voting. I don't think it's something that they're really looking to do. They're just glad to be here. And the thing is, like, if you don't want to get called, if you're here in this country illegally, are you really going to show up in a polling booth somewhere? I just, the psychology of that, the risks do do it. Pretend you're here and you came across the border illegally and you're an illegal immigrant and you're here working and you're doing whatever you're sending the money back and things are going okay. It's the greatest life, but it's much better than what you had in Guatemala or Honduras or Mexico or wherever. And you're like, I'm going to risk this by heading to a polling precinct to vote for a Democrat. I just, I don't think that I think it's very marginal. So I would just, I would caution you at making that too much of a focus. I think where Democrats would cheat if they cheated, just it's absentee ballot fraud. It's having people come in and vote multiple times or what stuff like that. That's why these poll watchers are so important. Terry wasn't once fired as a coach after his DUI. No, the DUI came or the alleged DUI. Now, he was never convicted of DUI. He was convicted of reckless driving. And once he got the reckless driving charges, when he moved to Osamie, Mankanto or Mankato, Minnesota, where he and his wife took teaching jobs and he taught and then at some point in the middle of his tenure teaching, he became the defensive coordinator for the school's high school football team. Terry also writes, I'm not sure where the surge of Harris's support is coming from. Most Democrats I know aren't any more energetic about her than they were Biden. And then a hatred for Trump. Most of them could care less about the election. Well, where it comes from is it looked like all hope was lost with Biden. You had obviously someone who cognitive decline was on display and at debate. And then you had the assassination attempt on Trump, which sort of made him a very popular figure. Put that together. Big leads for Trump. Now with Biden out of the way, Harris looks like she's got a reasonable chance of beating him. Let's just kind of shocking because this is really, they should have gone all along. Why didn't this? Let's get a break here, be right back. This is up your talk one oh six five from Bucks pocket to the shores of Orange Beach at all points in between an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porsche show. I don't think this way Welcome back to the Jeff Porsche show. What if I'm talking about those six five? They should be with us on this Thursday morning. I would number two now underway. Text line. We got a bunch of texts to get to. I will get to those in short order two five one three four three zero one zero six. Please keep them coming. Still come about a half hour from now. April Marie Fogel can't get enough April Marie. I guess she filled in a couple of days last week and then one day this week. Well, I was out in case you haven't heard what was yesterday. I am back after a we did my three year old who was a real trooper through this whole ordeal and I did a eight day road trip. Started out in Atlanta. Stay Atlanta one night Braves gained Georgia Aquarium. By the way, you got to check that out and then drove up into the mountains and North Georgia and North Carolina and took the entire Blue Ridge Parkway from Cherokee, North Carolina all the way to its terminus in Virginia in Waynesboro, Virginia and where you where the beginning of Skyline Drive is and then Skyline Drive we proceeded on up all the way to Front Royal, Virginia and then headed to East into Washington DC after a few days in the mountains. I took him to the Capitol. We didn't go into Capitol. We went outside. It was a Sunday. Not how I going on in there during a Sunday, but also got to take in a Nationals games, two baseball games on the trip and then the Supreme Court. You got to see the Supreme Court. Now this really made sense to him. We went and got lunch to Hulk and Dove. He did all the kind of, you know, touristy things you do when you're in DC and then we headed back south and got a NASCAR race in Richmond. Those of you who keep up with NASCAR quite a rate. It wasn't much of a race until the very end, but we stayed to the end and then obviously after that headed back south and came back on Monday and now or two days back or three days back into it where school has since started for the three year old who wants to go back on the road now after realizing how awful school is. Anyway, enough of that, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, one to be in touch with the show. All you got to do is text me. That's the best way to correspond with the program. We got a bunch of texts to get to here, a name, a text or Nixon did it. Take a look at what happened then. Yeah, I just, the lines at the gas pump with the price controls. Not good. Michael, I'm not sure. Sure. I'd mind grocery price controls. It should make a thriving black market for us home gardeners. There's some things you just can't get at the farmers market or wherever you would your, your black market, your, your vegetable speakeasy would pop up. All these people who cultivate their own eggs, you imagine what a price of a chicken or a cow is going to be now. They, well, you cannot, we absolutely cannot let Kamala Harris be President of the United States. Is she serious about this? Now, I don't know if she could ever fully implement this. Think about this president and I think she would try it too. They, they, they just kind of do it by executive fiat. I mean, the, the student loan forgiveness. And then in Congress is sort of feckless, even if Republicans maintain control of it, they'll pass a resolution or something, but there's nothing they just don't have to vote in the Senate. Uh, Mr. Mike, you could vote your way into socialism, but you cannot vote your way out of it. Well, this is worse than socialism. I mean, this is like communism where they're going to start using the power of the state to enforce certain tenets of socialism. Douglas Bamer writes this, uh, if you're making 2% integration or you're lucky, that's the White House is clueless on private business. They are very bright people. Hopefully low formation voters will connect the dots with Kamala's economic plan. Why wait till day one? Why wait till day one? She is vice president now. She not go knock on the president's store there at the Oval Office and say, Hey, Joe, why don't we do this? A name texture, uh, Democrats don't have to explain it because the vice going to ask questions or allow them to ask questions. Trump just needs to stop talking and read from the teleprompter. He says she's a stupid person. I'm sorry you may not understand the population, but when you hear calling people stupid, you're going to be looked at as a bully. Um, I guess I just, the thing is when, when Trump says something, he's doing this. He's like, I guess kind of tweaking. And maybe he shouldn't say it. He needs a message discipline, but they take one thing out of like an entire hour of speech and make it. I mean, they're going back decades or well, not decades, but with JD Vance are having to go back to like 2021. And they're, they're taking a childless cat lady, a comedy made on Tucker Carlson's show back when he was old Fox and make it seem like he said this just the other day. This is what is going on here. You guys, all these people complaining about message discipline, it doesn't, it's a losing battle. He's always, the Trump advance are always going to be accused of saying something that's off message. And he's never Trumpers. And he's, he's no at all like del Jackson types. He's like, you used to stick to his message. It doesn't matter. These guys are never going to win with the media. And this is why you need to tune that out. This is, that is not the key. It is not making the mainstream media pundits and talking heads happy. It's not making Quinn Hill, your Cameron Smith or any of these guys happy. They got to do what they got to do. And we're spending way too much time complaining about message discipline. It's not message discipline because there's no winning that war. No matter what they say. Oh, well, you're, you're go talking because these guys could talk about like being weird or they can, they can just make up stuff or, or whatever on the Democrat side. And there's no complaint about message discipline. What Kamala Harris is the, the epitome of how a campaign is, is run because she's hiding in her basement. That's a message discipline guys. She Trump needs to be more like her. Is that really what we think Trump needs to do? You want him just to go away for the next three months? But it's all these never Trump or types who say this stuff. And we, we just, you got to just stop. Don't take these people serious. They're never going to like Trump anyway. They'll, these, these never Trump Republicans or these Trump Republicans, they're going to vote for them anyway. They're, they're playing armchair quarterback. They don't know what the hell they're talking about because they will not just say, hey, that's just the media doing its thing. That's just the media reading its Democrat talking points. And it's just better to say nothing at all. You don't have to comment on everything. I guess you do the kill three hours of radio every day. But the point is from these guys that are making us like, oh my God, the Trump campaign's off the rails because he criticized Brian Kemp. Like, come on guys. Unabtechster, race agenda, the only real reason Kamala is as a candidate. I mean, let's be real. I see his vice president. Now she may have gotten the vice presidency because Biden says it himself and I can play the clip. He called her a DEI hire Joe Biden. In a speech about two months ago, was touting the virtues of his DEI policy with his own hiring practices. And he said the very top of the list with his DEI hiring practices was Kamala Harris, the first female black vice president. And he was very proud of this. He called her a DEI hire. So she is a DEI hire by virtue of the definition that the guy who hired her has labeled her. But we're told that this is not message discipline. You don't need to call her a DEI hire guys because that's just not very nice. And it's going to turn off the subset of suburban soccer moms in Kayahoga County, Ohio. And you just, you need better message. Listen, when you talk about the virtues of late term abortion or something, these people are not serious people. They're always going to have a gripe about Donald Trump. And I don't know why it's taking this long for them to get to that, to realize that they still haven't realized it. Terry price controls on food and socialism. There will be no food for for sake if they oppose price controls on it. Farmers will quit producing it. Well, they all want us to have our own little gardens anyway, don't they? Because they think the big farms contribute to global warming. What did they say about these global warming environmentalists they're they're great on the outside, but red on the inside their watermelons. Josh, what is the business you said that Haitians got a job at? So pilgrims pride a chicken processing facility in Marshall County was busing in Haitian refugees to staff their facility. And people started seeing these buses show up in Albert mill. And we're like, what the heck is going on here? And now I hear they're they're busting them into Athens up in Eimstone County. There's a lie to this. So we'll talk to Daniel Taylor about that in 11 o'clock hour. Summerdale Tony writes this. He doesn't surprise me supply and demand, but socialists do not believe in supply demand. They want to control everything illegal showing up and voting is not their problem about harvest. He could still happen where it's allowed. I'll say this about Ag. So Maria Tony in this country. We already have so much socialism in the Ag economy right now. We have we have guarantees. We we we give subsidies to farmers not to grow certain crops are to grow certain crops. We bill out farmers and and the point is you want to have a stable food supply because when you have an unstable food supply, what happens? You have, you know, food riots, we have shortages and that destabilizes the country. And the destabilization is a product if there is any is a product of inflation in America. And the inflation is a product of the monetary supply to the government spending out of COVID. Why we needed a second surplus? I mean, that was a disaster. Why did we need to give the state of Alabama so many billions of dollars so that the Alabama Department of Public Health could buy ads at Auburn basketball games. Why did we need to do that? Or are that they could squander the money on prison instead of giving you a tax break? And it was that monetary policy was that fiscal policy by the federal government that is why we are where we are. Is your life better now than it was four years ago? Well, you were locked down for COVID, but it was okay to go riot in the streets of wherever. Pat, they could easily have the illegals voted in absentee. I just, I'm Pat. It just sounds like too many steps to win an election. Mariner, it's also about the census to keep the electoral votes and states and citizens are played fair enough. Yeah, I believe that's true. I do believe that's true. They move these migrants around and on our census count. If you're illegal or illegal, the count is population and when they reapportion the congressional seats, the blue states like Illinois, where there's just this influx of migrants or New York or wherever, will maintain a level of population to keep them with their congressional representation and give the Democrats an advantage of Washington. You see Gary Palmer talks about that all the time, Mariner. Uh, King of all in any textures, I believe the US was evolved in a pipeline explosion that Germans found evident. Oh, that's from the last show. Cult to personality is at work for Harris. Is it? I think it's just media, media like folk hold. Let me right back. This is a Jeff Moore show. I have to talk one of six, five, tell me to stay away from the train line. She said that all the railroad men just drink up your blood like wine. Hey, I was constant. Yeah, I was a country from my head down to my pool. Welcome back to the Jeff Moore show. And if a dog will know six, five, 24 minutes out to the hour on this Thursday morning. Thank you for sticking with us. We do appreciate it. Uh, text. So I once again, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, fired on April Marie has a deeper voice all of a sudden. I don't know what that is referring to. Mr. Plot. Hey, Jeff, everyone still braids cable the radio, even if you could watch it on TV. I grew up listening to the Braves on the radio. When I was a kid in Birmingham, you could get now the Mario didn't have a Braves affiliate till later in the season. Uh, 92, but at night you can pick up WSB in Atlanta and they were the Braves affiliate at the time. And now they're on a much lower wattage signal in Atlanta, but back to also even probably before that we lived in Dublin, Georgia in the late 80s. Uh, that's what I would really listen to the Braves on the radio calls. We just didn't have TV. Every kid didn't have a TV in his room. I mean, even if it was on TBS, no, I'm, I'm very familiar with the Braves radio network. I've been listening to the Braves, Mr. Plot on the radio all my life, uh, back when they used to do the whole switch. They would do the first part of the game with the TV announcers and then the TV announcers would go over to radio. It was like Don Sutton, Skip Carey, Ernie Van Weer and I. Yeah. So yeah, I'm, I, now here lately I listened to him on the radio. Sometimes if I'm driving and plus having the satellite, uh, we'll, we'll tune in. But, uh, yeah, it's right now sort of at this stage of my life. I'll watch the Braves. The game will be on, but it'll be on mute. And if I'm driving and I don't have really anything else, uh, I'll have the game on the radio at night. Just keep it up with the score. But, uh, yeah, I have a, a very familiar with the Braves radio network, uh, and a texture. Thank you, Jeff Raishel about the need to be a nice guy. The opposition is vile. This is like this double standard. These people on our side who'd rather criticize our side than criticize the other side. Like do you really need to do that? Like why, and sometimes I think it's not just like a, you know, I really wish he wouldn't do that. It's like, look at me. Look at me. Look at all smart. I am kind of thing. And I, I just, I can't, I can't deal with that. Uh, uh, that's what it is. Uh, I'll see here, Jason, Jeff Clyburn demanded by and choose a black female as a VP to get South Carolina. A hundred percent DEI higher effects matter. James, George is a swing stay attack. He can't makes perfect sense. Uh, he also writes how about running on policies and capable of doing that. Uh, there's no guessing Trump's rhetoric about cabal bullying is a losing battle. Fox Paul did or calling for Trump to make a change or lose a selection. But no matter what Donald Trump says, they're going to call it bullying James. Here's the problem. I'm not, I'm not, I don't even think that says a, a, I think you could criticize her all day long. She's terrible. And this is what people want to hear. Um, so I, I, I disagree with that. Number one, but number two, I don't think it matters because whatever these people say, whatever Donald Trump advanced say is going to be called bullying or, and who can't, when does the governor of the state matter how people vote on a presidential ticket? If K Ivy told you people not to vote for Donald Trump, what, what the hell would you do? Would you not vote for Trump? Are you kidding me? Our Donald Trump came to Alabama, criticized K Ivy. Are those of you in, uh, Mississippi, uh, the Tate Reeves or, or, uh, and he criticized the Santas, because he was an opponent. Are you like, Oh, I guess I'm not going to vote for Trump now. I'm going to vote for Kamala because he criticized my governor. Come on guys. Uh, I named texture governor, young can just sign an executive order to ensure honest elections of Virginia. And they found 300,000 ballots for buying after the polls had closed in Fairfax County. They got Canada doesn't surprise me. That is a blue, blue place. Paul, what do you think about what's going on in the UK? You can see the table being set for the US. Well, the difference between the US and the UK is that we have a First Amendment and they don't. So it's going to be a lot harder for them to like crack down on social media. Maybe they will try and it'll be when he sees tied up in the courts, but it'll be a lot harder. It's going to break it here. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff for show it. If it talk, one, oh, six, five. My heroes have always been cowboy and they're still on the scene. Sat in search of one step in my heart themselves. Welcome back to the Jeff Port show it. If I'm talking about one, oh, six, five, eight, you're staying with us on this Thursday morning, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero one, zero, six is the text line. If you want to respond to anything I'm ranting about this morning, that's how you do. So joining us now on the line, you heard her a lot on last week. And I think earlier this week, but April, Marie Fogel joins us on the line. Good morning, April Marie. Hope you're doing well. I'm doing great. I'm here with my daughter. It's been her first week of homeschool and the boys are back at school. Homeschool? Well, how has that been? So far, so good. Now we're only four days in, so we'll have to check in on that in a couple of weeks. Well, the rigors of the first day of school, every post, I see on Facebook and there's like some kind of whiteboard and everybody seems so happy. It was nothing but tears at our house. Aww. Yeah, we had, it was a struggle because, you know, we're supposed to do this whole conditioning and gearing them back up for it. And of course, nobody had time for that in my life. And so it was literally, they wake up Sunday, you know, they get a better early Sunday and then Monday is like in the car. So Monday afternoon was a severe, I mean, worst category, whatever, the worst category five, hurricane style response from my five-year-old. Well, I have a three-year-old and people, it's a really schoolistic here, but they treat it like school. He has to wear a little uniform and he has to like, I don't know, to teach him to read and whatever at this early age, a very pretentious school. And he just didn't want to go. We had done the big trip and then I guess that was probably a mistaken hindsight that wore him out and he wasn't going on another trip instead of going to school. And all fairness, all we all though, you go on a really awesome road trip, get spoiled rotten. And then it's like, okay, and now you're going to put on a little uniform and you're going to go sit and mind your manners for hours. No, I want another road trip, my dad. Yeah, well, he's got all his little bros that he had last year. So I don't know, yesterday was just a disaster. So hopefully it gets better today, but such as it is, my parroting expertise is not really where it needs to be, I guess, these days. Besides that, where I do feel like I'm an expert is on politics. And I just, I'm watching, I know the polls are moving in Harris's direction and there's a lot of enthusiasm out there. I don't think, I think very little of it has to do with anything that Donald Trump is doing or saying on the campaign trail. I just think it's just this media blitz for her. Yeah, I think it's just an inflated bubble. It's going to have to pop because you look at what the types of voters are, right? There are a number of voters that were going to just vote Democrat no matter what. They didn't care that their candidate was essentially a corp. Then there's the same people are not excited and they're really excited because they don't have to vote for a corp. If you're looking for deaf and voters and is this going to wear off, which is what I'm looking for, is this going to wear off? The question is how many independents, people weren't or soft voters who weren't going to vote for Biden, are going to vote for Pamela. And I think once they get to know her and her running mate, that number goes soft. So I think all of this, all of this buzz, which is a lot of manufactured by media who are covering her and her running mate like they're darling. I think it's going to have to stop because the reality of what they want to do is so scary. Well, I don't know what it looks like. I don't know. I think you just got to write it out if you're Trump advanced. And I think it's going to get worse before it gets better because these people have their convention coming up and we know what happens historically after convention, you get a little bump out of it, burning that Harris is a face plant on the stage in Chicago. And I still think there's a potential for some unrest there, April Marie. I don't know. It's going to be quite what it would have been with Biden. But I'm watching this and I, you know, they got to weather this storm till September. Well, I think it's comical that they are saying a big part of the theme of the convention is going to be about having a woman at the top of the ticket. There's going to be a lot of women speakers and a lot of empowering women. And for me, there's so much that can go wrong with that and help us, right? Because it's not even a Republican base who gets offended by this. We don't actually know what a woman nonsense is. There's a lot of Democrats who care about family values who are also could be turned off by this. And so there is some potential there for that bump not to be as big as they want it to be. I think that eventually, we get back to talking about ideas and policies, not that Trump mean tweets again, not Kamala's tackle, but the actual direction of our country. And we're talking about that Trump lens hands down every time. Dick Brubaker and I were talking about this earlier this week. Well, yesterday, I don't think the public at large. I mean, the undecided public at large cares about policy. I think it's all superficial, all judged to book by its cover stuff. I mean, like, you could try to make it about policy and you could try to make it about, whatever the Federal Reserve should do or what the right amount of aid that they should send to Ukraine. I mean, like, but I think a lot. I think most people just look at you like, that's boring. Give me the give me the the the mud slinging or whatever. And then it's unfortunate, but I just I do want to debate trophy. And I say it's about books all the time. Do you want to win the debate trophy or do you want to win the election? I think that it's about kitchen table topics. It's about the topics that are keeping families up at night. Husbands and wives sitting around the kitchen table going, I don't have any money right now. Husbands and wives sitting around the table and the wife is scared out of her mind by what the kids are learning. I think it's what they're seeing on TV. Those topics, which aren't necessarily political, by the way, grocery prices are isn't considered a pro protocol topic. It's a topic that they realize and they need help with. I think Trump did so well relating in his first campaign. Well, it's not all about the second, but the first campaign he did so well relating to workers who felt like they were getting hosed and being ignored and being sidelined. And so this campaign, if Trump can focus on talking to the women who are scared of what's happening, just natural, national security wise, the men who can't afford their families, I think that's where we learn. I think there's very little that Trump can do. It's not going to be exaggerated, blown out of proportion. And everybody's talking about, well, he criticized the governor of Georgia, but but she like what they want him to keep his like kind of off the cuff, you know, say it like it is. They want they want to like so-called water on that. I think that's this that's part of it here. I just, I don't think that is there's nothing that Trump prevents can do. It's going to make the media intelligentsia satisfied. So, so like, it's a it's a dumb debate for people to have to say, no, I wish you would stay on message. Because because no matter what he says, he's going to be accused of being off message. Well, I think that there's some value to knowing that that you don't, you know, you don't fumble as bad as we did in Georgia. I think that he absolutely did wrong when he went to Georgia and let his personal animosity towards the governor there, um, add a division that he doesn't need. I tell me this. Who is not voting for Donald Trump now because he criticized Brian Kemp? I think that there are people who are going to roll their eyes and undervote. So skip, that's right. Tell me who is and it can be under vote. It can be voting for the opponent. Who, who, who is who was changed by that moment two weeks ago. I think that, uh, you look at the US Senate race in Georgia, you know, Senate races in Georgia and you see that Trump depressed turnout there. And I think that was like, that happened again. The reason Trump depressed turnouts because he lost Georgia weeks before. And I think just a very underwhelming effort from Mitch McConnell, who was the chairman or ran the Senate leadership fund. I mean, I don't think you could pin that on Trump either. Any of the Senate races in Georgia, look, it's not, this may be Trump's party, but he doesn't control the purse strings. He has to control the, what the Republican parties in Georgia do. This is all like, this is all just looking for something to pick at. I think that what Tom, and as far as being undisciplined, Trump's been undisciplined since the first day he walked down the stairs and said he was really going to run for the US president. I don't think, I think anybody looking for Trump to be disciplined is probably out of their mind because he has shown you just not going to be. Do I want him to stop picking fights? He doesn't need to fit sure, but you're right. Is he going to get a fair shake in the media either way? No, they're looking for that one or two things that he's going to do, which he will do one or two things crazy each and every speak, each and every day on the line. And that's what they're focused on because they don't want to be focused on the problems that smaller and Biden have caused. Donald Trump's probably been undisciplined since he cheated on his first wife, the Marla maples or whatever. I just, this is what you get. And it's, he's not going to change, but the people criticizing that. I don't know, like, why are they, what do they get from that? Do they think that that, you know, all of a sudden Donald Trump's going to go hide in the basement and be disciplined like Kamala Harris? Is that what they want? I mean, that's, that's essentially what they're asking for. What's the end goal of pointing out that Trump keeps doing this to himself? I think, I think in the beginning, and I say in the beginning in that first campaign, people wanted thought, okay, well, he's in a sheet from just like this candidate and then he's going to get elected and then he's going to read it out a little bit. And he clearly didn't. Second campaign got even wilder. Third campaign, there are so many issues. And I'm talking about, I'm not talking about the big issue, the ones that people don't relate to. I'm talking about the, you know, crime, crisis, education, there are issues he should be talking about. And I think it's fair to talk about how undisciplined he is when it comes to those. Although I tell you what, I listened to a big part of that Elon Musk interview and he was nailing it. Yeah, that scared the hell out of him, which was kind of, I mean, that, that's another peculiar thing. When we were watching at April, Marie, how, well, the lead up to it and how the media just like had this visceral reaction, like how dare he and the institutional left, particularly globally, like threatening Elon Musk, they, that, that moment in media really bothered a lot of people. And I mean, I didn't think the interview was anything like spectacular or newsworthy, but only the thing that got me was just this, this crazy reaction from it. You know, two things stuck out. One is Trump's ability to sit there. I mean, we were watching, right? He's sitting here at his phone, he has some notes underneath, but just riffing on American politics and what he knows and what he believes and what he wants. That was impressive. I do not believe that, that Kamala could do it. Definitely no Biden couldn't do it. And, and even the VP in it at Walt, I don't think he could do it. And so I think that, for me, as somebody who does not like Trump, but will vote for him, I was like, head nod, you know, respect. I think it went, that went really well for him, especially because of the tricy end effect. People didn't want the people individual to see that. And then you go and look and it's been played a billion times and you're like, half half. But I was, I was, I was still maintained it. Here we are talking about something that happened two weeks ago, seems like an eternity in a presidential cycle. And people keep picking at it like, like, I could happen yesterday. And you're kind of like, why? I mean, we're not even, we're not talking about anything Kamala Harris did two weeks ago. Well, that's what the last ones that they did. They wanted to pick at, at Trump and Trump is fixing the things he's going to do and not talk about what we're talking about. It's our own side doing it. And I still think, I think it's all else caused because Trump's going to do whatever he wants to do. And they're going to find something to gripe about. Yeah. Well, and here's the thing is Trump makes for easy content, right? Like, what, if you want to talk about Trump, you could find something in the news every day to talk about. And so I think it's low hanging fruit. I don't, I'm trying to think, I'm not even sure I mentioned, maybe I mentioned for half a second in passing when I was doing your show that situation because I don't, I think it's a ridiculous thing to do, but I don't think it's worth, you know, it's not worth an hour of talk or without radio. Well, there's all these people out there right now and Trump's losing in the polls or he's not maybe not losing in all the polls, but he's losing ground. I think the trend is definitely in her favor, but they're blaming Trump for this shift. Say that he's a discipline and it's all his fault. It's nothing to do with that. The, the, the enthusiasm is number one, we think we have someone who can win. It's not Joe Biden who's not in a cognitive decline situation. Number one, number two, just to, like, kind of like really boisterous media celebration. And that feeds on it. And that's, that's sort of where we are. Well, and you got to keep that in mind. There is also, and I see it from the Democrats that I follow online and media, there's this, oh, well, Susie Wiles, leave the campaign. Oh, is she, can she not handle him anywhere? There's a push to disrupt the campaign. There's a little bit of a mind face, headspace here going on. And the A conservative who's helping those guys is really just trying to hurt Trump. They, they get into his head, the media gets into his head, pundits and such, and turn him against the villain. And we've seen that happen. We've seen him, you know, I think that's a lot of what happened with Jeff Sessions, right, is people told him that, you know, Jeff betrayed him. And so there's, there's that happening behind the scenes. And I think that there are individuals out there who are parenting the, the Trump, you know, they're not going to have the momentum. They need to do something different for, to undermine him. And then Republicans are piling on just to keep talking about it, which is not good, by the way. Let's just say if Rick Wilson starts a conversation and he very much has been pushing this Georgia thing, you should probably not be talking about it if you're an actual conservative left, if you're an actual conservative and not leftist. Well, there's a lot of never Trump types out there that state. This is the most important thing for their campaign. But anyway, we got to leave it there. April Murray, I was appreciated. We'll talk again soon. Thank you. All right, we got to get a break here. I'll be right back. This is up and talk one of six five. You gave me nothing. You know, it ain't too hard to say. We're caught in a trap. I can't walk out. Because I learned too much baby. Welcome back to each other show up and talk about those six five days or stay with us on this Thursday morning. 251340106 text us if you will. I'll see here to the spammer. Hopefully you haven't already covered, but I saw where the administration is fast tracking these illegal citizenship applications on 10,000 new citizens with voter ID could affect Texas. I don't know. I mean, I just, it's hard to get these people to vote. I'm not discounting it. There's no doubt in my mind in the future. 20 years when they have kids and they, I mean, they have eligible voters and maybe they come into the system that will impact Texas. But how long have we been hearing that Texas has got a flip blue? All right. I just made a roar. Need to get beat till we can put that to rest. Tim Jeff, I got to break the eyes of the day with April Marie and mini skirts. I don't know what that means. I named texture Jean Autry on the station and the team I met. I grew up watching the Angels in California. Jean Autry to cowboy actor on channel five with the Anaheim Angels. That was in the late 70s. The old California Angels. Michael, um, they're sweet of us the U.K.s. We have a second amendment that assures our first amendment, but I don't think anybody's going to go use the first the second amendment to protect their first amendment. Right. So this once again is Pine Brook. Whoever you are texting me, Carolyn Dobson will be in Mobile Wednesday August 21st, 6 p.m. for the grand opening of our campaign headquarters. Pine Brook, not pinemont texture. And get for April Marie for homeschooling. Would you want to go into a structured situation at three poor children? I don't. I mean, but I understand there's value in a structured situation at three and a lot of classmates are four. We're just, you know, as parents, you want the best for your kids and you look back and just preparing him for school. It's better than just going to a baby holding facility for eight hours. Well, mommy and daddy work, uh, so to me, I don't know. So I think a little structure is unnecessarily bad thing. What do I know? Let's see what else we got here. I need texture. So I know the words he spoke to George's combination of all the words he speaks to his rallies. He is off the cuff. Rambling and saying things he literally regrets. I've attended rallies and left. I'm quite sure what the message was other than the immigration, whether and die. He says things that aren't true. The list is a lot for first time of 55 years. I will not vote Republicans. It's like how Doug Jones is voted in the office. Sometimes your guy is too crazy. I respectfully disagree, but we'll get a break here. This is the Jet Force show and I could talk 106 five. Missed. Hey, yes, we are manjakers. Yes, we are hill racers. People get out of our way. Wherever we go. From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach at all points in between an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porsche show. I don't think he ain't done it this way. Welcome back to the Jet Force show. And if I'm talking 106 five, they should stick it around on this Thursday morning. Hour number three. Now kicking off here on if I'm talking 106 five still to come Daniel Taylor from 18 19 news. My colleague there he was really the guy who broke the story about the busing and the what appears to be Haitian refugees to these chicken processing to work at this chicken processing plant up in Marshall County and we'll get more into that here shortly about a half hour from now in the meantime you want to communicate with the program two five one three four three zero one zero six would be a touch with the show all you got to do is a text me and we will proceed accordingly, uh, let's see what we got here. We're gonna get through the rest of these text here I know it's been a lot of time on text, but uh, we'll uh, we'll let it run its course uh An a texture This is a lot here Uh, no, the other sides are not asking questions of Kamala. They're freaking just flip flopping Uh, we all know it's a bunch of lies Kamala say a trump is going to lose if he keeps calling you're stupid It's not about picking on our sides about winning the election As a republic it doesn't worry be that trump's, uh, the trump's bump in the polls are because of outside influences As a republican, I agree what trump says about Kamala Harris trump needs to go after the independence in the swing states the end but I when is this like conventional campaign strategy ever worked We I think you gotta go way back to like 2004 To go with the gop establishment Play book 20 years ago guys So they'll work on McCain they'll work with romney Maybe in this one and it's 50 with trump, but I mean 50 is better than 0 Republican voters don't want the textbook Throwback campaign they want a guy that just is going to like go back to like Talking about it america that they grew up in It's going to talk about, uh, you know Getting away from all this progressivism This being shoved down our throats That's what people want And these people is always going to stay on message and not talk about Brian kipper Kamala Harris is race or whatever None of that matters there all there's always going to be something Donald trump says or does that The media that is critics are going to object to And they will take it and they will make it bigger deal that it really is And then that will be used to say this is why you lost But is it really Maybe it's because you guys in the sort of right of center smarter than us rubes out here in magalland Are doing the democrats dirty work for them and amplifying this stuff And then that's what you got to do Then do I mean I just These complaints Are kind of silly sometimes Uh, regarding the last text or email you read the guy says he won't vote republican for the first time of 50 plus years because trump lies Which is very odd since that all democrats do is lie Get to keep her mindy folks. It eats like him about the fake russia collusion over and over and over for four years And that's just one example Well, they're reinventing their their top of the ticket candidate That she was good on the border and that she's they're trying to separate her from the current administration And who knows what the heck's going on at the bottom of the ticket to her with tim walls and all the questions with him Somebody got with some baggage. I mean I was kind of shocked to see him picked. I still am And i said that yesterday But he's just not what people are looking for Texts like 2513430106 There's also this wild card and I don't I don't really know what to tell what it would what it would mean for the election What is some kind of war breaks out? In the middle east So kind of something bigger than the skirmish we got more localized What if you really do have an iran israel situation What if it does calls gas prices to go up because he sees have a They have an effect on the economy these global situations What should the us response be and then all of a sudden joe bine enters the picture again What does the vice president say could she even articulate that we don't know? I mean have you ever seen all i hear is how you give a speech about foreign policy I King of all in the texture seeps the public wants to view trump is a curmudgeon That points out the work needed to be done in harris is a substitute teacher Scott trump should have picked him scott and the thing would be overnight doubt it. I don't I don't think so even if you think temp scott's better jd vance the focus the focus is at the top of the ticket Look if it's economy, I mean we overthink these things and go into the nuance but trump's gonna win It's economy and foreign policy. That's gonna be it. But if it's just like aesthetics If it's just personality Some of you like his personality But if it is just a straight up Judge the book by its cover gut reaction Um harris might do better Right now there's there's i don't think there's warm and fuzzy is there's not to love a fair for example That the public had with barack obama in '08 and 2012 But there's not this visceral reaction either I don't think she's likable. What's they start putting her out there? And this is why they probably haven't put her out there. They're gonna overcoat her Guys there's a reason she didn't win the democrat nomination in 2020 She couldn't win the democrat nomination. I don't think That's that's why they did it this way Look, I mean like consider this Joe Biden Probably shouldn't have been the nominee this time around what do we agree with that? I mean democrats out there James jean When you went through the primary process Joe Biden should not have been your choice on the ballot Yeah, you should have some other options Well, I think the fear is democrat voters democrat primary voters Would not have chosen harris they would have gone with a peter budge edge or They would have gone with somebody else To the democrat establishment in this country didn't think could win because the the base of the democratic party Is so far left wing that they would have gone in a completely different direction Fast forward to july And They determined that they need a new candidate Well, they had done a mini primary or anything maybe harris would have but but she's I don't think she can win Under merits of her own ability to campaign And I think the democratic establishment in america said the same thing that they don't think that she could have won the nomination on her own merits and that's why they did it this way If we go back to 2023 and say joe bides is i'm not running again Is harris a nominee If it's a if it's the legitimate process Can can Kamala Harris get 14 million votes like joe biden had I don't think he she could And I think the the peter the party elders do this and this is how this is how they decided to proceed that it was never like Hey, we're going to move by and later on But in the event if but we have to move by and this is how we're going to do it They've text her what happens if biden dies In september kamal becomes president of war breaks out Friend I don't know the answer that underneath texture I said i'm probably the same thing that happens if biden doesn't die It's just a The my question is it so much in and in the how the war would proceed but just more about the perception of who's a better war time commander in chief donald trumper kamala harris Despite democrats being very hawkish these days. She just doesn't have that Is this the female thing you're not supposed to say it She doesn't have the uh The branding to be like a war time president Friend so both parties lie try to get you to believe the lies over the other opposition What matters is policy and the matters of which either side enacting those policy Currently appears to be by executive orders. You want to limit something limit those But friend back to your your matters is policy. You're right, but What matters to win an election is it policy? Some people would say well, yeah, it does But the people who have not made up their mind of the people who vote They Aren't going to do a lot of homework on these candidates They're not thinking about any of this price controls They're not this guys. We we tend to overestimate the voter in this country The voters that are locked in are locked in So the campaign is to find those voters who you could either switch which I don't think they're very many that you could switch from one Campaign to the other are the ones who have made up their mind Are just people who aren't committed enough? Maybe they vote Republican or Democrat to get them excited enough to get and participate And if you think that they're going to like start studying policy Listening to policy speeches yet another thing coming Terry look everybody knows that trump has elected three will be lgbt qi ae io concentration camps and women will be acquired British stock abundance a man after all looking at his first administration But that's what they're going to tell us Terry. I know you're speaking uh facetiously Mr valentine they're not even put her out there worked for hiding by and you're right Well biden it felt like there was a reason there was coven and he was elderly with her like I don't think she gets a pass Squirrel Democrat voters don't care about for policy or any policies under what he president as celebrities at the white house Yes, it is like the Taylor's fortification of her politics And says happy prime month. They merely had to post the same copy to patiently skew Scoot accomplishments by harris without knowing themselves typical Democrat voters ignored harris until she dropped out And then tweeted about how it was because of racism now they're hopping on the back and like in tobacco It's going to be like the tick tock the best tick tock video or the best i g or the best whatever Don't overestimate the electorate I We'll get to more of your text on the other side. We got to get a quick break in here We'll be right back. This is the jet pore show it if it talked about oh six five Is open everybody i'm ready True as mine Good night angel sleep tight darling close your pretty brown Look away look away look away take a look at the jet pore show it up and talk what it was Six five they should be with us On this thursday morning was lifted this thursday morning out programming note coming up on tomorrow's program tat's daisie alabama daily news Or stay centered or rusting the lover will be with us and then we'll wrap it up with the show's returning champion state senator Chris elliot uh, so please make sure you tune in for that I'm back to the text line just a few to get to here michael I believe alabama would succeed if they put price control on taco casa and calls a shortage The best thing they could do I might vote for kamal here is to put taco casa out of business Just kidding come on guys on here's like some people who really get upset When I talk about the casa, there's one guy in particular. I don't know who he is, but I hear second hand and he like wants to go like He will he he really has some destructive behavior some personal demons michael whenever I talk about taco casa Which is totally overrated Um Terry if I dies at office the first thing they do is we can't burnings until they can get harris leashes and hollywood prepped up this year we can be in the basement even more until the election I don't know I if I I think they're there. I think it probably and I this is morbid to talk about if I dies There will be like this fun remember to biden And It'll just be lovable joe lovable joe was it wasn't a great with lovable joe Who does that help? It's gonna help kamala harris I don't think he's gonna die in office. I don't think he says he's that bad off Knock on wood We don't need a president dying in office democrat republican it's just You just hope pray that they can get Like you get to the finish line Um, but on the other hand, I mean Guys we maybe you got tape put our eye back on the ball here with the biden administration wonder they capable of What is the biden administration capable of at the next five months until inauguration day? We pretty sure that hundred minds gonna get a pardon What else? We'll never hear from joe biden again when he leaves from leaves office Scroll over and uh, it depends on how he dies Well, I just say of old age or natural causes or whatever. I I think it does matter Um via assassinated that would be very that would that would be bad I don't need to say that any any any of this political violence when he gets to that level that that's when you You really do worry about instability But if he stepped aside, I think even if he steps aside guys It's a uh, it's a net positive for harris Anyway, two five one three four three zero one zero six bet you this early in a program governor walls I took a dig at tommy tuberville because uh, I guess he wanted to be a he caught himself the anti-tuberville At a fundraiser $25,000 a seat fundraiser in balsa last night Uh, he said quote pull it up here That I feel like one of my roles And this is now to be the anti tommy tuberville to show that coaches are not the dumbest people So, uh, apparently Coach dumberville is responded and he tweets this speaking of an embarrassment to the coaching profession Uh, and i'll read you tim waltz deserted his military unit when he found out They were deployed to iraq waltz had abandoned the police abandoned precincts while the other cities burned in 2020 And waltz had Can't find the spinner just on the boy's bathroom. She doesn't need to be worried about speaking on behalf of coaches Let's get a break it here. We're right back. This is fm talk what of six five Oh Oh Oh Welcome back to the jeep pore show it up and talk what oh six five days are staying with us on This Thursday morning text line. Uh, still if you want to try to get it in level time at the end of the program Uh, two five one three four three zero one Zero six. I real quick before you get our next guest jason writes jeff did you see fencing around the capital of these years? It's safe for now There's a little bit of but there were some barricades, but it wasn't like that that fencing you saw after january six Uh, it was like the bicycle rack barricades around the capital and they had it in Situated in such a way that there was a path to the capital but um You just you couldn't go like throw a football on the lawn or the capital or whatever the I don't understand The way they have guarded the capital. It's always been that way even when I lived in dc How something like january six was able to happen? uh, it's always been kind of locked down ever since nine eleven and You know, i'm just telling you guys like They would yell the capital police would yell at you get off our lawn Uh, even before january six and this was sort of the This is the way they handle things even during those tea party protests on a national ball Uh, so I don't know what happened in don't january six, but I have my suspicions tarry to hairs because president I ran well escalates the tax when I ran either bell root centers the wargets you create or put uses gas or tactical nukes that finally Uh to say that trump lies in his rallies as a shallow stereotype is evidence by one I would not agree with that accusation That he lies until I hear the context labeled alive mr Trump exaggerates for a fact by saying everything he is the greatest the biggest the best That is his communication style not lying lying if say you were raising a bat You raised a baptist when you were actually a hindu who, uh, when first selected the public office refused to take the oath of office On the bible. So there you have it Uh joining us now on the lines my colleague in 1819 news and he's really been, um And the guy kind of breaking the story here up in marshall county Which is in the uh, north easternish corner of the state uh, daniel taylor joins us on the line day. Oh, good morning. Are you? Hey job doing good. Thanks for having me. Hey, thanks for making time I do appreciate it. I know you're busy. Oh, well, I want to I want to talk to you about Uh, the story that you kind of led the way on if you just kind of give us a lay of the land how like really when this showed up on Your radar or other people in abortville's radar That there were these busloads of hay shit refugees showing up I mean kind of talk about how that started and how we got to where we are Yeah, so about a week ago, um, I saw a post online and it was getting shared online about a A local resident they made a post showing an image of a white charter bus That they claimed and other people in the comments claim had been dropping off what appeared to be Haitian migrants Around this downtown abortville. I kind of wracked on main street almost And so other people were commenting that they'd seen the same and other areas and we started to get more um traction with other photos and so you're given out with real history in the whole area where you're running history with immigration They were kind of right rightfully in my opinion concerned before they were saying and they started asking questions, you know who are these people where they come from who sending them and So that's what really started out with the Facebook post and then I know the local police they posted that they were looking into it and then local um The local leaders of the mayor council started to get involved and what they what we what we learned was that pilgrims pilgrims pride they have a plan russelville that they had recently expanded and that they were using these buses to transport workers to and from the job site and um Whether or not these um Like they claimed that these were people living in the area that whether or not they had recently moved to our village kind of unclear, but that was the issue and um Since then a lot of people were still concerned because that um they weren't sure you know if that's legitimate answer there's a lot of confusion about if um Where do people legal where they not legal? And then them being Haitians from from Haiti a lot of them do have the ability to um claim asylum on refugee status so they can get some legal documentation so they had the route to work but It's kind of a spot spiraled Kind of from there like I said given their history, you know back in the 90s and early 2000 Right immigration would start to blow up then and just kind of been a kind of Let's let's let's we kind of rewind there talk talk about that. I mean abartville russelville um You know if you go back in time to like the 1990s or 80s. I mean they're totally different towns now totally different places and it's it's some of it's just the industry and the workers that these Whatever you want to call them brought or attracted or whatever these industries that are in these towns have have Brought to your community there daniel. I mean, there's a there's a legacy of what pilgrims pride Wayne farms, etc. Has been doing over the years Yeah, I mean there's like it said Wayne farms Douglas pride ties centers. I don't like maybe up to tenors or more chicken processing plants or in abartville, but whereas marshall tanning area and um Around the late 90s like before before then like in early 90s even the Hispanic population was very small and now it's um I think according to the census and some measures it's almost one in three 30% of the population. So that's really grown with people coming in and um and then the Haitian population, that's what we're seeing in this most recent influx of migrants is really the Haitians and there's a question of I mean, who's bringing the man if these chicken plants and other industries if they're actively involved and bring them in I know Many have claimed that they Believe that these people they have the even if I process they make sure they have the documentation And whether or not there are ways to get around that. I know some people say they There are ways to get on that process, but it has really just changed the look and feel the area I know it's I mean the Hispanic population by now has really well integrated into the community pretty well but it's um more like the Haitian population is now um All people are really concerned about Well, it's it's this I you know There are a finite amount of jobs and these chicken processing plants I mean, they're not employing local people now. I don't know what it is or they just not paying enough or whatever but You do look at it and you think like what what is going on here where you need to bring in people from from lord knows where to to work at your plant um maybe maybe just This is pursuit of cheap labor. I think it's off putting to a lot of people That's some of the argument is that the people the current residents they don't want these jobs And I don't know how true that is. I know I spoke with Wayne farms and they said that they were fully staffed and they weren't currently hiring so they made it clear me that they weren't involved in this recent um busting controversy and um there's also um a local at Haitian business man. He's been kind of taking the lead to kind of represent the Haitian community after this controversy kind of boiled up And he's claimed that they got these some of these people are coming from like indian and other states And he doesn't believe any of them are really coming in illegally like being busting from the border But I do know um I have a story I posted on eight pennies this morning um mentioned The department of homeland security. They recently suspended a program That was flying in Haitian migrants and people from p-bud minasuela like just all over the country, but there's a good chance that many of those made their way to Alabama and um Representative strong they'll stronger than questioning the department of homeland security about that And the reaction there from local officials to their credit. I mean brought call then uh your state representative there uh, senator kitchens, uh, the state senator and even the federal delegation, robert adderholt and others. I mean they they have been lieutenant governor horthes from up to the street there in gunnersville They have been quick to react have a day Oh, yeah, they've been they've been really responsive and they've all put out statement saying they're looking into it and trying to see what can be done which They helped answer the question about the buses in general But I think the question of how to kind of stem the tide of immigration to fill up in the air you know, that is definitely a federal issue and given the Biden administration's current policies that some people feel like there's not much that can be done until There's a until the next election if maybe trump gets back in office, but um, I know locally, um, the mayor and city council They I believe it um They have um, if I had new code enforcement officers. I believe one is hispanic one patient that kind of reached out to those specific communities to Kind of make sure they're aware of certain laws and codes and codes on the books It kind of helped them integrate into the community. I was out driving the day. I saw one a code enforcement officer And I believe they had a patient family contact and they had a patient enforcement officer with them So they're trying. I know um, there's still a lot of frustration among the community You know, we had a meeting the other night at a church And look there was hundreds of people there and It was it was civil and it was a good conversation. I don't know many people got the answer they were looking for but I believe that You're no consensus wise. We're going to work together to find a solution to the issue Now one of the gripes and i'm sure and and I I think it's a legitimate gripe like look the local infrastructure is not a clip to handle a big influx of people who speak us, you know, uh, uh, a second language non-english speakers like the the ability to communicate so You have to have law enforcement that that there's public safety aspects. There's education aspects Health care, right like all of this is a burden on the system That there's no real clear good answer for when these chicken plants bring in A foreign population as large as they have Again, um, the schools have definitely taken it here. I know I'm in different terms of But there are population has grown that the non-english speaking population and has been difficult papers Some of the teachers and I know the superintendent he had reached out and asked state leadership and congressman for more funding. I guess just maybe you're gonna get some help to deal with the influx of migrants and um You know with the roads and housing housing seems an issue Everywhere, you know low housing that and that's part of people's complaint. They claim that they're seeing Many migrants just kind of piling the houses with multiple families just adding on to houses without proper permits and Just not taking care of their properties or polluting the area It's really um got people up in arms about that Yeah, well, I just not speak you from personal experience in bawling county like you don't necessarily have a teacher who speaks Whatever language of this population and then those that's not cheap, right? And it impacts the quality of your schooling and impacts quality of life And we talk about it. It's not just like a bunch of racist people in marshall county that don't like Haitian this like there's no They're not really paving the way to absorb absorb Whatever kind of shock to the community and then this is like you said This is something that alberville's had to endure for the last 30 years Mm-hmm and um like I think like the Hispanic population has managed to integrate well, and I think there's a General consensus of people that I don't want to welcome people here. They want to be welcoming and open and aside from the complaints They're I think they're trying to do their best to do that, but it's just hard to Keep up with the influx just the rapid rate is happening and there's not a power thing in The the schools. I mean every school. I like the alberville hospital. They've recently added on several new buildings. They just opened a New um magnet school. That's hopefully kind of make room for all these New students, but it's definitely put a strain on those resources Joy by daniel taylor 1819 news here on the program just a few more minutes here with daniel. What do you I mean? What do you? Do you have any indication of what the conclusion of this saga is going to be uh um now they've ceased this I understand or maybe I read that but like it just looks like This is sort of the situation that you guys Are going to inherit where they like it or not You know at the meeting I'm one of the few solutions that you were kind of talking about with many better code enforcement And like I said, the city has tried to add more code enforcement, but just Importing the codes on housing, you know, I don't know that may kind of create a problem in itself if people are displaced from where they're going to live, but um that may sort of disincentivize people from moving into the area and Or maybe if they had housing closer to Like the rest of a plant they had housing that people could actually live there instead of having to be bused to and from sort of offload the strain for the city and um And there's also the same the it's going to really boil down to a federal issue. I believe in Like any some of these programs that are bringing people over just Enforcing from the law to the border to stop people from coming in in the first place Well, tell me this though now How I mean like well, why Why do the locals they just want more code enforcement? I mean do you get any sense that they just hey just go home? I mean, I I haven't really heard A lot of that. I I what I what I see might take away is hey this these this these to stop um The the chicken the processing plants they haven't been like a great neighbor other than this this issue and then there's been some Always been the environmental concerns. I mean is this really Is this really what the kind of industry that the people in your area really want to see like really flourish It's hard to say given that I mean the chicken plant Is in here for I think since the like the main farms, which is the closest plant that's like the main downtown Albert but let's been here since the 40s or 50s, I believe in the city have kind of grown up around it and um But I got like over the years given their attraction of the immigrants it has kind of helped shape the city in different ways for good or bad and but it's hard to say how or what can be done to kind of change the the way the the chicken plant operator recruit and you know, I believe they claim they if a employee shows up the right documentation. I mean, I don't think it's much done to verify if it's legitimate documentation or counterfeit ID and they just hire them what they can get and I know many people expect frustration with the pretty council and they are at the meeting or at the meeting and they were saying They didn't mention any names and they said there's an election coming up and if they can hold on that long, there may be some change in local leadership Well, yeah, I guess elections will have or consequences will impact the election, but hey, uh, daniel We gotta get out of here, but uh, thanks for making time for us and uh, thanks for keeping an eye on the situation Absolutely, daniel taylor my colleague at 1819 news. Let's get a break in here very back. This is effing talk. What oh six five No, there's been milk and timmies, right? Well, dog, the missus shipping And it's ears down flat long before you take this cowboy's hat Now if your leather jacket means to you what this hat means to me I miss my son Walk away from trouble if you can I have all been your week if you tie me on the cheek I hope you're old enough to understand look back to the jump floor show it up and talk what oh six five Hm staying with us on let's look to this Thursday morning credit tomorrow on the program Todd stacey rusty gilever and stay centered or Chris elliot, so please tune in For that mid-day mobile coming up here just a bit Sean Sullivan broadcasting From the convention center today. So stay tuned for that as well uh James the sad troll so residents complain about farm workers in the plant yet the job Getting a job these clowns feel it's beneath them. The locals aren't applying to law of economics and capitalism I know here complaints are slave labor on those iphones, but let's be honest here as if alabama and any school in Anypo's to complain any I don't know what that means Uh, they have had piss pro results for decades and it'll actually dishonor rhetoric and it finally wow Do house it next to a chicken plant jeff wow, this is right on cue for the most uh religious state in america what a blanking joke jeff james um Number one, uh, maybe the chicken plants need to pay better. We was you talking about capitalism and free markets Uh, the trick to free markets is if you want people to come work for you pay a decent wage Pay for and then the value of the chicken will be reflected upon that Don't do stew what the shareholders need to skirt having to pay an honest wage Uh, which is shipping labor from overseas That's number one. Now the part about the religious most religious state in america uh Well, where where the bible does it say that you have to like turn over your, um uh, turn everything over to like a foreign entity So that they can make our to a corporate entity so that they can make a profit off of chicken to tell james tell i mean Isn't the real culprit here not necessarily the locals? Maybe you can have a gripe about them not being charitable enough, but it is Uh, the the system kind of operating how it does it take you to manage of a situation of desperate people and paying them Um, very very low wages so that They they can better their bottom line Is that is that fair finally, uh Robert rights let's do you say will they from worry before my concerned democrats here agree with your assessment that the gop is delusional that they believe trump Is message is going to maintain messages disappointed trump wanted 2016 because he was his authentic self I didn't like it personally politically, but it was definitely him and i can't read the rest of that because it's a little long But i got to get out of here guys. I will try to do better tomorrow. Sorry philis I forgot to say goodbye. This has been the jeep pore show on fm talk 1 0 6 5 This is where the cowboy rides away [MUSIC PLAYING]