Kap & J. Hood

8/15 9 AM: Tom Thayer

Hour 3: It's Thayer Thursday with former Chicago Bears Super Bowl Champion and Bears radio analyst Tom Thayer joined Kap & J. Hood to preview Bears vs Bengals preseason game and the latest Bears news. What makes a sports owner a winner? Plus, ABC 7 Chicago's Tracy Butler with the weekend forecast and The Kap & J. Hood Classic Cut Of The Day.

Duration:: 44m
Broadcast on:: 15 Aug 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

What time is it? It's Thursday. Thursday. Tom Thayer. Thayer. 1985 Super Bowl champion and football analyst for the Chicago Bears. Heat to win the division. Win the division, get into a playoffs. Former offensive lineman. Do they need to get better? Do they need to give up less sacks? Yes, of course. Tom Thayer. Tom Thayer. It's Thayer Thursday. On Captain J. Hood, ESPN Chicago. Good morning, Chicago, and welcome in to the Captain J. Hood Morning Show on ESPN 1,000. And we are streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. But David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you, we got Shae. We got J. Moore, we got you here on this day or Thursday, and it's time to go to the Hotline. That's the CarX tire, not a Hotline. Rattle, rattle, thunder, batter, boom, boom, boom. Don't worry about the CarX, man. We turn now to a zero bowl champion and color analyst for the Chicago Bears. It's a great time, Thayer. And he joins us here on Captain J. Hood. Good morning, Tom, how are you? I'm doing good, men. I want to thank you for entertaining me every day on my way to training camp throughout this early preseason. 1 o'clock practice today against the Cincinnati Bengals. We always have a lot of fun and love having you on. It's one of the highlights of our week. So let's talk about what you watched from Caleb last Saturday because your trained IC's things that the rest of us do not. Because for me, I needed to smoke a cigarette after I watched his performance. You know, I just like the trust he put on display. So, you know, he had that one pass where he rolled out to his right. He made the defensive lineman, defensive end off balance. He fell to the ground. And now he had an open window of opportunity. And he allows those lengthier routes to come into play rather than taking the easy dump off that's right in front of his face. And I like to see his aggressiveness in that approach on his scramble. I like his understanding of the interior protection by the offensive line. Even though they ran a stunt up front, he patiently waited for the offensive line to pass it off. And then he took off on his one and only scramble. And I like the fact that he knew on that little hook shot pass, the DeAndre Swift, he had trust knowing exactly where he was gonna be according to how that screen sets up. So it's those little things that I really, you know, took away from Caleb as the solid understanding. Another pass he rolled out to the right. Gerald Everett was about four or five yards downfield, but he waited for DJ More to open up. And that was his one drop. And unfortunately, he would have finished six of seven if he didn't have the drop by DJ and Cole. And it would have been, you know, we would have probably been talking in more glowing of terms about his performance. And maybe Yerko would have given him a B plus or an A by God rather than the grade he did give him in post game. Yeah, it was brutal. It was brutal. God almighty. Tom, love the kid. What surprised you most about the Bears offensive line play against Buffalo? So, you know, late in the stages of the week, they found out Ryan Bates was not gonna play the right guard position. So Coleman Shelton's got more snaps at center than Ryan Bates does up into this point. So then what was Chris Morgan, the offensive line coach gonna do? So he plugged in Matt Pryor. And you're talking about a big man, six, seven, 335 pounds. And how does he compliment Darnell right at the right tackle? Even though they don't have, you know, the couple hundred reps, I believe, an offensive line needs, you know, in terms of the side. I think that they need way more than a couple hundred reps. However, they went out there and they played an efficient style of football. There were no mistakes according to the cadence. And I like the discipline they showed on the line of scrimmage because even though you want to replicate noise at practice and you guys have been out there and you hear when they turn off the music and everything, crowd noise and crowd flexion is different in a stadium than just listening to noise. So discipline on the line of scrimmage, they had one holding call by Darnell right. And that was because Caleb was trying to escape out of the pocket away from unbeknownst to Darnell right. And once he gets his arms out, stretch that officials there to throw the holding call flag. So discipline, understanding of the offense and crowd noise discipline. I liked what I saw out of this group. - It sounded like Ryan Polls was very aggressively going after Matthew Judon who was traded to the Falcons yesterday. Wouldn't give up a second, offered a third. They felt the Falcons' third would be higher so they went there. What does that tell you? - They have a lot of faith in what Austin Booker has shown what Daniel Harding has done. The two weeks in a row that he's had his opportunity to play. And then as Judon, is he a, you know, the type of defensive end type of guy that can play in a stance and play the run as well is trying to get the 10, 12 sacks out of them. Because in order to rush the passer, you got to be able to play the run. And I think that's one of the things that plagued this defense the worst last year is their inability to play the run to get into those pass rushing scenarios. So I think what I've seen out of Austin Booker so far, and like I said, Daniel Harding and even Kaleeb Karim, what I've seen out of these guys, "Hey man, let's go to bat with these guys." And listen, in Dominique Robinson probably played his best all around run stopping, winning at the line of scrimmage pass rushing game last week. So maybe he's starting to see things more clearly from all the responsibilities that defensive end faces. - Yeah, we've been talking about this a lot, Tom, as you well know about the defense and defensive line in the pass rush, how it got better toward the end of the season. And I've been coming around to the thought is, look, you've got young players on this roster that have to develop, you have to find out whether or not they're gonna be, you know, difference makers or cornerstones for your franchise, like Javan Dexter or like Zack Pickens. And so my thought was, if they're gonna bolster this defensive line through free agency and through a trade, if it happens in October, fine. But at some point you gotta figure out if these guys can help you, is it correct? - I 100% Jay Hood, that's a great point. And you know, one of the things about Zack Pickens and Javan Dexter, they are playing better each week. They are improving in terms of their one-on-one rushes that they have in practice and how that figures into the course of the down a distance they're playing during the course of the game itself. And then when you go back, so if I'm gonna go, you know, 300 pass rushes a year against Steve McBichael, I know exactly what Steve is gonna do in his stance and he knows exactly what I'm gonna do. And so then it kind of becomes an unfair battle and you're just kind of refining what your technique and what you're trying to do against the opponent of the week. And let me give you one example of Austin Booker. When I watch Austin Booker and one-on-ones during the day of every day of practice, he's, because the guys are a little bit familiar with him, when I see him go in the game, the guys are not familiar with him, he's a more effective, better pass rusher and he's got a wider variety of moves and a larger arsenal. So to me, Austin Booker is a better in-game player than he is a one-on-one player. And sometimes you see that out of guys and sometimes you see it out of natural gifted pass rushes when they're playing against an opponent that's not 100% familiar with them yet. - In terms of what the bears are going to do with the starters on Saturday, what do you expect? - Man, I hope they get a minimum of a quarter and a half or maybe even two quarters. And if they're not going to play in that Kansas City game and you're talking about 17 days in between the Kansas City game and the start of the regular season, so what is that, 21 days between their last playing time to their next playing time? So I want to feed these guys enough reps. I want to see them play tired. I want to see them to make some multiple sideline adjustments and how they react accordingly when they get back on the field. So there's still a lot of things I need to see out of this group and they're growing process. But if Caleb goes out there and gives me two quarters of mistake-free football and I see that his trajectory is pointing through the roof, then hey, maybe I'm okay not playing him in Kansas City, but it's going to be another hostile environment in Kansas City that I'd like to see these guys demonstrate discipline on the line of scrimmage according to the cadence of Caleb. Tom, of course I'm going to give the offensive line credit first, but I remember last week we were talking about Vailus Jones and his value. Okay, he's proven me wrong so far. Like it was good for him to run the football a little bit to get into the end zone. Good for him, but the question still stands about what they want to do at the running back position. Is Jones just going to stay as a wide receiver and a special running back? And what do you do with the running backs? Because you've got three or four guys, five guys. They're going for positions here. Yeah, you know, you know, the good thing about Vailus is so you can't only put him in the game and run sweeps with him. If you do that, there's going to be a red flag that goes up every time that he's in the eye formation in the backfield. However, yesterday in practice, he made a nice, they gave him a handoff and now he had to incorporate interior vision and how the offensive line was going to get into their blocking schemes and how the play was going to open up on the second and third level. And it was super encouraging because that's what I've been waiting to see out of Vailus and the coaching staff offer those kind of carries in practice to see how he uses interior vision, not just exterior speed. So I like what I've seen out of Vailus. However, I think Ian Wheeler is a really good running back. You know, Khalil Herbert. You got to see where the future is with him. Roshan Johnson is back on the practice field yesterday. And I think DeAndre Swift is super talented. So it's a good problem to have. Maybe one of these guys is tradable. So, you know, I'm still going to feed Vailus and Ian Wheeler a lot of carries in the remainder of this preseason, probably Roshan Johnson, if I feel he's healthy as well. - Hey man, have a great weekend. Enjoy calling the game. - I cannot wait to hear you and Jeff, but I'm just so excited to see where this thing goes when it kicks off against the Titans. - I am as well. - And another, something else Tom, I'd like to ask. So, you know you and Big Jeff were on HBO, your voices, your analysis was on HBO. So, what are those checks look like? Because you know, that's going to be, in syndication at some point, you're going to be getting paid for that. So how much is- - Oh, large J-hood. I'm going to take you cap out to dinner and I'm going to pick up the check. - Oh, I love it. I mean, because you're on HBO, that means there's going to be some extra coin coming your way, Tom. - I don't know, I honestly, Jay, I don't know about that. I just saw the episodes last night. I finally got a friend to send me their ability to watch HBO Max, so I'm up to date. - And what did you think? - The first episode, if it wasn't the Bears, I would have turned it off in the first 10 minutes because it was boring me, but then it kind of held my attention and I ended up watching the two episodes and I will watch the remainder of them. So, they got better after they started playing games. - Yeah, Shea feels they're too sanitized. He doesn't hear any profanity, he doesn't hear any coaches, you know, getting after guys to a large degree. He wants more raw stuff. - I wish, I wish there was a little bit more chippiness inside the episode. - Did you tell me, like, the whole thing just feels very edited down and like they're dropping out the swear words, it seems like a super polished version of training camp. It doesn't seem necessarily authentic. - Yeah, you know, one thing I don't wanna see and I've never liked on the hard knocks is when it gets down to cutting time and they bring a guy in a room with cameras and they cut him because that is one of the most difficult moments to live through in a kid that's 20, 21 years old, his life, his parents, and everybody else that is in that situation. - Right, Tom, we'd like to have you come in here, Coach, needs to see. - You know what's about to happen and there's all the cameras. But the funny thing was I read the article, I think the Tribune did it, maybe this is sometimes, that they have cameras everywhere around Hallisole, including in polls in Ebert Flus's office and the lady Shannon, the director, who went up to polls and said, "So this DJ Moore extension, are you doing that in your office or somewhere else in the building?" He's like, "What are you talking about?" She's like, "I have a camera in your office. I hear everything. You're doing an extension with DJ Moore." - Oh, wow. - Yes. - Huge. - How about that? - Yikes. - Tom in your career with the bears taking on the bingles, more times than not, you came out on top. Like in '86, well in '86 it was '44 to '7, as it was at Cincinnati where the bears lost that game. But then there was a win in overtime in '92. - Are you on that team? - Yes. - '31, '28. - Yes. - I win in overtime, I think. - So let me tell you a funny story about the '86 game 'cause it was super hot in Cincinnati and Marty Scharten, I think Schartenheimer was the coach at that point. He had a reputation that they would water down their old Astro Turf Field. And then when the stun came out, it started beating humidity off of the surface. And so that's one where you saw McMahon was on the sideline of the game and he had a towel around his head with the bandana holding the towel down because it was so frigging hot. And that was always what kind of the filtered, you know, the filtered into the locker room. Hey, he watered down this field. It's gonna be super hot. So make sure you get hydrated and, you know, protect yourself from the heat. - Sam Weiss was the coach. - Oh, Sam Weiss, yes, I'm sorry. - Sam Weiss. - There's one that won 44 to seven cap on September 28th. - Yes. - This is a first time. - It was hot though. And that's the thing I remember about. I don't remember the score. I remember how frigging hot it was. - Hey man, have a great rest of your day, all right? - Thanks guys. - Appreciate you. We'll let you know where we want to go to dinner. - All right, you name it. How do you all see it? - There he is, the great Tom Thayer on the Car X Tiring Auto Hot. (upbeat music) ♪ Rattle, rattle, thunder, batter, boom, boom, boom ♪ ♪ Don't worry, call the Car X name ♪ - Always a great stop with Tom. - It is. You know who was at Chicago Cut last night? Joe Burrow took seven of his teammates, including Jamar Chase, the Chicago Cut last night for dinner. They got into town. Where are we going? Cut. Super cool. - It is good, man. That's really cool. - Ah, so good. - Anytime you go on an open table and get yourself a nice reservation. - Open table, man. - Good fact, David Flom. - Good for the bingles. They know what open table is. - That's awesome. All right, coming up. What makes a sports owner a winner? Quote unquote winner. We'll explain that coming up next in one of your phone calls at 312-332-3776 their phone number. It's a deal breakers Thursday on The Cap and J-Hood Morning Show. (upbeat music) - This is Cap and J-Hood. They've beaten the traffic commute, so you don't have to. (upbeat music) (screams) ♪ Say it again ♪ ♪ Say it again ♪ ♪ On ESPN Chicago ♪ (upbeat music) - Cap and J-Hood on ESPN 1000 are streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. - So our guy, Tom Thayer, I love that dude. He mentioned Sam Weish, the old coach of the bingles. Sam Weish is famous for during a game between the Browns and bingles walking on the field when there were snowballs being thrown. - Well, the next person that sees anybody for anything under this field, point them out and get them out of here. You don't live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati. - You don't live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati. And that made that 14 seconds, made him a legend back there. - No question. What I remember about that, Cap, is still a mystery to me even today. Is it how did the PA might come all the way down to the sideline from the box? - That's a hell of a long chord. I'll never understand that. - Like how did he get the PA mic from down there? - But you couldn't do that so to build today. - I wouldn't think. - Even fluency has something to say to the crowd. He'd have to go upstairs. - Well, they probably have the, now they have the wireless. But back then, it's so weird. I don't know how they more, I mean, from a technology standpoint, how that chord went all the way down, like let me get the mic here. - That was what J-Hood came up. - It's about a 50 foot chord you have to run. It's from the box all the way down to the field. - It's crazy. - What year does that say that was, J-Moor? - That'd be 85, 86, somewhere in there. - Somewhere in the late '80s, I think. - It got the crowd going. - Oh, my God. - That's for sure. - Play that again. That is so good. - Yeah, get 11 Cleveland, you're 11 Cincinnati. - Pretty good, kid. - I mean, so great. - On the Cap and J-Hood Morning Show on ES, it's been 1,000 and streaming on the ESP in Chicago app. So what makes a sports owner a winner? The reason why that we teased that going into this segment is because of a conversation that we had off the air in our meeting. And it took up the majority of the meeting because it was a theme. Because over our shoulders here, on the TV, okay, we continue to see how the national media, ESPN, FS1, everyone else, is trying to figure out how to fix the Dallas Cowboys. Why the Cowboys like this? And will they sign this guy? Will they sign that guy? Will they become a champion? Will they fire Mike McCarthy? Let me just tell you something. They're the most polarizing team in sports to me. 'Cause I don't care, Cap. It's too much. I remember when the late Jeff Dickerson and I did national radio. We did ESPN radio for five and a half years. And it would be right in the middle of the summer, not even in August, Cap. It'd be in June, July, where the producers were like, "Well, we've got Todd Archer from ESPN, Dallas." They wanted to come on and talk about the Cowboys. I said, "Why?" "I don't care." "Yes, but it does ratings and blah, blah, blah." I'm like, "Okay." All right, here's the thing. Jerry Jones is the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. And we have to determine, Cap, what makes an owner a winner? We have not seen Jerry Jones as a winner as far as Super Bowl championships since Barry Switzer and Jimmy Johnson. It's been a while. He's had three championships in that era. - Correct. - Since then, it's been a drought. However, as we talked about just yesterday's show, from Sportico, the Dallas Cowboys are valued at $10.5 billion. Does that make Jerry Jones a winner? Or does the Super Bowl championships in the same success, does that make him a winner? - Depends who you're talking to. I'm talking to you. - And like you and I both have said, we would want to compete for championships. We want to be the guy from Golden State, Joe Lakeab, who said, "I don't care. "I want to compete for a title every year." That said, Evan and Chris Canty were saying today, like somebody said to Evan, Michael Jordan was a terrible owner. And he said, hold on a minute. He paid $275 million for the Charlotte then Bobcats. - Sure. - And sold them for like $2.5 billion. And Evan said, he's got six rings. He's the greatest player of all time. And he just made himself over $2 billion on owning a basketball team. Maybe in his world, he's the biggest winner of them all. 'Cause as a businessman, he won big. - Yes. - Big. Okay, I'll ask you this question. It's Tom Ricketts, a successful owner. - Yes. - 100%, but I'll bet you there'll be people that call in and say no. - Well, they'd be wrong. They would be 100% be wrong. He paid $845 million. He could sell it right now for well north of $4 billion. He won a World Series for a team that hadn't won one in 108 years. He rebuilt Riggly. He controls almost all of Rigglyville's real estate. They built a brand new beautiful complex in Arizona, a brand new complex in the Dominican Republic. Yeah, he's successful. You may not like him. But success, that guy's an absolute success. - And he will always be known for that because of the World Series Championship and then the run with Joe Madden. And then just as the Cubs are not a mom and pop anymore. I mean, that's a win in itself. However, Cap, ultimately for me as a sports fan all my life, I've been trained to understand wins and losses. Did you win or did you lose? For those that are listening to us that are not die-hard sports fans, but they wanna know what's going on with their teams because you're busy with family and finances and faith and everything else that you're dealing with. What you're trying to do, Cap is just find out, hey, did my team win today or not? What times did my team play? Are they winning? Are they not winning? That's why they tune in to ESPN Chicago. Just find out what's going on with their favorite teams. - Agree? - But Cap, when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys, sure you had your share of playoff appearances. But what the ultimate goal is to win the Super Bowl. All this acclaim and all these pyro and Ballyhoo about the Dallas Cowboys day after day after day, you can say that Jerry Jones is a winner because of how much money that he's been able to make and where the value is of the Dallas Cowboys. However, it still comes back down to the wins. It comes back down to whether or not you're a champion. It's very simple. Did you win the championship this year? Yes or no? And if you didn't or how close are you to it? To me it's just a chase in the tail. For Jerry Jones, for me, for Jerry Jones, he feels like that he's a winner because he keeps his team relevant by doing his own radio show. His back against the cold white wall. Homer Road, the first one to speak for the Dallas Cowboys is him. Not even McCarthy, not even the players. Before they open the locker room door, Jones has something to say about the team. So for him, it's like, look at me, look at the value of my team, look at Jerry world. All that, but ultimately, what about us? Or if you're a cowboy fan, what about the championships? To me, what makes your winner is that you have been able to be a winner, getting championships released close to it. The other stuff, say to me, is to the side. Like, it's good to know, hey, Dallas Cowboys is worth 10.5 billion. But again, the fan, the nine to fiver, wants to know is your team going to win a championship? Well, Jerry Jones, the business is fantastic. There is no argument against it. Jerry world's fabulous stadium. He's brought this organization to an incredible value. You can't take the three Super Bowls from him. But I ultimately think his legacy will be that he has consistently mismanaged this organization. He mismanaged Barry Switzer. He mismanaged Jimmy Johnson. He screwed up the Zeke Elliot deal. He's screwing up all three of CD lamb, Dak Prescott and Michael Parsons right now. Like, his legacy will be that he didn't win enough in the later years after Aikman and Emmett Smith that he messed up the relationship with his head coaches, that he mismanaged contracts with his players, and that he didn't win as often as he should have. And I am not giving any sports owner extra credit because their team is worth more than they sell it than when they bought it. Dan Snyder bought the Washington Redskins at the time for pennies on the dollar. He let that stadium fall apart. It's leaking water on fans. The gate literally comes off of the stadium and fans are falling down into the player entry tunnel. And he sells it for a fortune. He was one of the worst owners in sports history. Donald Sterling bought the Clippers for 12 million. He sold them for 2 billion as one of the worst owners in sports history. - Amazon. - You do not get extra credit because your team is worth more. Of course it is. TV deals inflate all of these teams values. The Washington football team, the commanders are 10 on the sportical list. They just got out from underneath the worst ownership group in the history of the NFL. I don't want to hear about teams being worth more and that being a win for an owner. You don't get bonus points. - Right, but you're speaking as a fan like us. - That kind of was as an economics take. Every team is going to grow in value. It doesn't matter if I own it. - Doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. They still get the credit for it. Like Phil Jackson gets the credit. He coached the best players of all time. Colby, Michael and Jack. But guess what? He gets the credit for the 10 or 11 championships that he won. - Does Dan Snyder get the credit for the commanders selling for what they sold for? Does Goodell get the credit because he negotiated the TV deals that made all these teams so valuable? I think Goodell gets the credit. - Probably, I don't know the inner workings of Washington if he made some maneuver that helped them increase their, I have no idea. I don't follow them. But I will tell you that if you ask the partners that invest in a franchise with an owner and they make a fortune of money, they'll go, okay, we're successful. The fan says, no, no, no, wait a minute. I'm coming home tonight. I'm going to watch my team play after another day at a job I really not all in on, but I need to be able to pay my bills. I want to win. There's a different perspective, right? - It is, it is. But just understand where we are as fans, where we could see those articles about how much money that an owner is making, but that even feels more to the fire cap when your fan is seized and say, wait, okay, how much is this team making? How come our team's not better? They also come backfire on you too now. Hey, this is how much money that I've made as a team, as an owner. Okay, so why is my team so lousy? I'll tell you something else about Mr. Ricketts. He is a winner in that he was able to get multiple revenue streams around Wrigley Field and win a championship, but just like anything else in sports, whatever you've done for me lately, you pay through the nose for a current council. And as I told you before, if Jed doesn't get it done this off season and next year, then the window on him is closing. And that whole regime of Theo Jed, now Jed is just, it's going to be on him too. He'll be gone also, right? No doubt about it. So here's the thing, Shay, when it comes to this, what makes a sports owner a winner, championships? The Joe Lake of Theory and his lament of saying, "Hey, I'm just unbelievable. "I really want to win championships. "I'm a Nike about winning." That resonates with me more than what Jerry Jones is doing. Does he ever talk about Super Bowl championships? Not lately. Not that I hear. Not lately. Does anybody here talk about championships? Well, at least Ricketts can hold up a ring. He can hold up a ring. Like Ricketts, I actually think is a winning owner. He came in, he spent a boatload of money on the roster. He spent a boatload of money on Wrigley Field. Theo. One, a championship. You can say what you want to say now that he doesn't spend enough, but I think he's a winning owner. Ryan Polls. But he's not an owner. That's true. Well. Has George, Jerry, even Tom, do they ever go to the podium and go, all right, all I care about now is I want to win. I've made my money. I want to win. And I'm going to hold my organization just like Joe Lakeab did to the standard of, I don't care what the rules are, find a way to win. I mean, I was having this discussion with my buddy David Ailman yesterday, two days ago. He's the assistant coach on my team, that coach, for Danny. And so we went to dinner. David's been a D1 coach. He's scouted in the league. He's a stud. He said he's a die-hard cub family. We had the Cubs game on and we're eating. We're sitting at the bar. And he said, go back over the last 30 years. How many guys have the Cubs drafted or signed internationally developed? And they've signed them to a second contract. You start thinking about it. Not many. Did they sign Chris Bryant? No. Did they sign Shorber? No. Look at that 2016 team of all those. Harvey Baez, he didn't get a second contract. They traded for Addison Russell. He came from another organization. Kyle Hendricks, John Lester, J. Gary Edda, Jason Ham, all these guys came from other organizations. They've signed Nico Horner. They've signed Ian Hap. They signed Mark Grace to multiple deals. Who else? Zambrano. Who else? Kerry Wood. Okay, Kerry Wood. Never signed Mark prior to another contract. Go back through all the way back. They didn't sign Greg Maddox to a second contract. They got him back when he was almost washed toward the end. They let him walk. You go back all the way to like the late 80s and tell me of the thousands of guys they've drafted. Thousands. What is there, 50, 60 rounds? Yeah. Over 40 years. Tell me who all the guys are that they've drafted, developed, signed and kept here. Very few. Back to your phone calls coming up. 3-1-2-3-3-2-E-S-P-N-3-3-2-3-7-7-7-6 is our telephone number. Captain Jay Hood, weekday morning, seven to 10. Welcome back. Welcome back to Captain Jay Hood on Chicago's Home for Sports, ESPN Chicago. It's a Captain Jay Hood morning show on ESPN 1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. With you until 10 o'clock and then Greenie comes in at 10, then Carmen and Yerko 12-3, while on Sylvie 2-3-6-30 into Bears Weekly with Jeff and Tom, and then Blacken of Dollar 7-30 right here on ESPN 1000. We'll hear from Tracy Butler on the weekend weather. Coming in way at 9.50. Yes, we know it's Thursday. 3-1-2-3-3-2-3-7-7-6 is our phone number. We go back to the phone lines. Eddie from the North Side on Captain Jay Hood. Eddie, good morning. Here we go. Good morning. That shouldn't defy anything. Money always makes money. Both of the crowns can invest in major league baseball team, football team or anything. Of course, he's going to make money. It's opportunities like other people that, like say we had $100,000 and we wanted to invest in the Chicago Cubs when Rickets bought it. What do you think that would be worth right now? North of a couple of million dollars. It's the opportunities that we get to do it. But championships should tell you, Michael Jordan, all these people that have we just named, they all had money before they even bought into teams. Like Michael Jordan and Bartley saying, "Oh, he's a bad owner and all that." And is he not? Because what do we just say? He made like $2 billion off of buying the Charlotte Hornets? Yep. You know what I mean? Money always makes money. And for normal people that work every day, if we can invest $50 or $100,000 in these teams, like a .1 share of it, of course we would, because we'd be a multi-millionaires. But it's people that know people that allow these people to get in, to invest their money, to make more money, and it's just a big circle that goes around. Hold on, Eddie, as we talked to Joey G from Meryl's Park, Joey Cello, and Eddie. Eddie, how are you? Joey G., how are you? And how are you feeling? I'm feeling okay. Thanks for asking. Okay. Yeah. My perspective, my question is I agree with Shane. Jerry Jones is a great financial owner, but he can't win championships. He can't? I agree. I agree. I'm talking. And he can't do contracts on players. Those three guys need to be there. It's going to again, I'm backing up hoodie today, hoodie championships now, championships, the Heinz family at Bitchburg, right? Yes. Okay. Championships, and who owned the Cowboys with Landry installed by? Can't be a chips. But now it's all teaming deals. The Rooney family, the Rooney family with the Steelers, right? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. My mistake. To me, it's all about championships. And get ready because I'm with camp. What do you think of that, Eddie? Joey, I believe that too. And I believe Jerry Jones. And if you don't think a Prescott can win you a championship, why are you, because of all media, it's forcing why isn't he getting the deals done? Why isn't he getting the deals done? Why isn't he getting the deals done? I hear it up in day, every day. Well, you know what? Maybe deep down, he feels like this guy maybe cannot get me a championship. So why am I going to pay him? Look, Jerry Jones has won three championships. Three. If you look at what, and again, the NFL, the growth has been exponential. But if you look at what the Dallas Cowboys franchise entailed when he bought him in 1989 and what he's built it into now, the stadium and everything and the brand and all of it, he gets a lot of credit for being a very successful owner. Has he won enough? No, he has not. But that's like Tom Ricketts. There's no way you could say he's not a successful owner of the Chicago Cubs. That's correct. From a ring standpoint and from a financial standpoint. Now has he spent enough money? Has he attracted enough stars? Did he go through two rebuilds in a period of like 10 or 11 years? The answer is yes, and I think that that shouldn't happen. But he won. He rebuilt Wrigley. They've done a great job in the neighborhood. Like those are all things you get measured on. And then the value is insane. 312-332-3776 is our phone number. The phone lines we go. Little Village here's Berto on ESPN 1000. Berto, good morning. Good morning, guys. I appreciate you taking my call. Big fan of the show. Thank you. Just wanted to get your thoughts on being Steve Smith with the hard knocks crew, but him not showing up at all in the episode. I, for one, was waiting for a little DJ Moore interaction, like when they had hard knocks at the Panthers. But I don't know. What do you guys think? Steve Smith, not on camera on the hunt list. Yeah. For what reason would Steve Smith get featured? He never played for the Bears. He happened to be there for NFL Network. I would not think that he would be involved. No. There's no tie to Steve Smith. Great player. Yeah. He's not going to be on the coaching staff, right? No. So, look. He's working for NFL Network. Yes. That's the reason why. Correct. Okay. So, there you go, Berto. There's your answer. You know, we're going to find out what's happening with the weekend weather with Tracy Butler. It doesn't look great, right? I'm a little disappointed with Tracy's performance. You are disappointed with Tracy Butler's performance. Yeah. In other news, water's not-- Pretend August, man. Yes. Water's wet also. Love Tracy. She's a wonderful person. I need to see the sun. All right. Well, we'll see when the sun will come out. Maybe tomorrow. On the cap and jayhood boarding show. Tomorrow. If you missed something, get the podcast on the ESPN Chicago app. Jab and jayhood are back. On Chicago's home for sports. ESPN Chicago. Now time for the cap and jayhood cut of the day. Too bad Chicago cut steakhouse. It's on LaSalle, North side of Chicago rumors. You're there last night. Joe Burrow and the Bengals were there. Right. Marc Chase. Here's Jaymore. Yo. That's a sport. But it's a sport. Oh! Whatever. It's not boring. Okay, then you're boring. All right. Cut. Ooh, ooh, ooh. Just some of the decision making of this dude does not make sense to me. And then he meets the media every day after the game. And there is absolutely no fire, no passion, no this is unacceptable. We got to get this. Nothing. Yeah, I mean, it's disappointing. No blank. Then I'm getting swept. It's no good. It's a bad take. Damn. I mean, does that fire anybody up? It does not. Somebody that can lead this ball club. I mean, you're 59 to 63. Someone's got to speak up. You know, like a guy like David Ross got to have someone that can fire up everybody. They're a really good team, you know, best team in the league. So record wise, I mean, they're really, really good. You know, we got to do some little things a little bit better. Try to get runners in from third, less than two outs. Hasn't been our shrink here this month. You know, guys are laying it all out there. It's a really good team. Yeah, the one difference is really good team, you know, best team in the league. It's just pointing really good. You know, I do some little things a little bit better. Try to get through days. That's pretty good. It's the scene from the office of Pam's like the same picture. And that's all, folks. The Kappa Jhood Cut of the Day. Brought to you by Chicago Cut Steakhouse. On La Salne, more side of the Chicago Rip. We go to the newsroom. ABC Seven Eyewitness News, meteorologist Kacey Butler's with us. Brought to you by ComEd, common wealth Edison. Good morning, Tracy. How are you? Oh, that's on me. That's fine. I want to place a fine. Hold on. That's what I meant to say. Wait a minute. I'm going to pay my, I got a bag. I take one. I take the dog walking. There you go. So double the fine. Double the fine. Just awful. One of the produce bags from the Whole Foods. Just awful. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Now you know where your store this takes. Well, I will tell you. You know, he said to me, I got to do this 20,000 step walk today. Yes. Guess what? Mother Nature will be following you. I can get it in the next three hours. No rain, right? I'm just saying. Mother Nature may have a different idea. How about this weekend? How about, no. How about today? How about those steps in today? I'm going to. Okay. In the rain. Awesome. If it rains, I got to get wet. I'm going to do it. Can we play a little raindrops keep falling on Cap's head? By BJ Thomas? Or is there another artist of choosing? Wasn't that, that wasn't BJ Thomas? Yeah, it was. That was, I love a rainy night. No, that was Eddie Rabbit. Yeah. BJ Thomas, he didn't sing raindrops keep falling on my head. No, that was like, oh my gosh, who's the guy that rode all of those classics? Michael McDonald. No. James Ingram. Yeah, I'm going to shoot myself when you say it. Raindrops keep falling on my head. By BJ Thomas. No. Take that. I'm the music king. Did he sing the original? Yeah. No. Wow. I don't. Yeah. Originally done by BJ Thomas. Okay, fine. Well, no matter what. You got it right, big deal, it's still going to rain drops on your head. Wow. Believe me, all you listen to is rock. You got rock, so you know you got it right. You got rock radio, baby. Wow. I listened to you as you guys. So. So tell us about the weekend. You said it was going to be rain today, but what about Friday and Saturday and Sunday? Yes, Sunday. Sunday. So Saturday. So kick off in the afternoon, right? Yeah, it's noon. It's a season game at noon. I do think there may be a few stray showers. Not like what we've had this morning, but I do think I see a little disturbance that's going to come in here early in the afternoon and bring just a few light showers. Highs on Saturday and probably over at Soldier Field, it's going to be mid seventies at kick off. Not bad. Sunday looks like a pretty good day. Tomorrow morning will wake up. There will be some sun, but tomorrow late afternoon, I'd say between about four and eight p.m. We'll have to watch for some thunderstorms during that time too. I understood. And maybe a few thunderstorms tonight as well. And actually on a day like today, it's very humid and you may notice that when you go out. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We got this gentleman saying yes. It's very humid out there. We don't want sun today because that only makes the atmosphere kind of angry and gets us prepped for maybe severe weather. So we don't want sun today, even though Cap wants it. We don't want angry. That's for sure. He's always angry. I'm never angry. Oh my gosh. I stepped at the weather. And you did it, did it, did it, did it. Wow. Wait a minute. Serious life. Bert Bockerock and Hal David also wrote the song. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. After BJ Thomas, who's the original. Yeah, but he didn't write it. I was thinking Bert Bockerock. There you go. That's what I was thinking though. Saint, I'm always here to help Tracy. Thank you, buddy. We're still alive. Oh, Tracy? Bert Bockerock. Oh. Thank you for listening and calling in and being part of the program here on Captain Jay Hood. Our thanks to Shea and Jay Moore on the other side of the glass. How about you and I tomorrow do a bear's football Friday? Let's do it. That's the freaking loop. Tracy Butler brought to you by ComEd. Bert Bockerock dead. There you go. So long, everybody. Tracy, Mr. Funeral. Take that. From Chicago.