- Data part. - Oh, data's brains out. - Just wondering, you know, after this movie, if I don't go to print it, you know, they're not busy, man, we can go to a piece somewhere. - Pick up on Friday. - Oh, right, Friday, uh-huh. - So, you wanna do something to me? - What's a wonderful day? - You know what sucks about vacation? - What? - That it ends. - You're telling me? - I know, how's your vacation been? - Too fast. - Too fast, yeah. It's always funny when it's like, your work eight hours goes by so slow, but then like eight hours on the day off, nothing. - Yeah, like where did the day go? - Right. - Where did the last five days go? I don't know. - Yeah, your last day of vacation is tomorrow. - Yep. - That's wild. J-I-thing fun, jeff fun. And I ask genuinely, because I feel like I haven't seen you all week. I know that you laugh at that, but it's like, we usually spend a lot of time together, and you've been just like, little miss go, go, go this week. And I'm proud of you for like, doing things, I'm happy for you, but like, if I haven't seen you. - Okay, so on Monday, I went and saw it ends with us. - Oh my god, okay. We saw this movie separately. Let's start with that. Wow, thank you. I totally forgot about that. Cass and I have been talking about watching a movie separately together, but separate. - Yes. - For a while now. This didn't have the right movie. And it just so happened that, Cass will actually explain it, and I'll stop talking, but we saw it separately, which was a great experience, I think. And I cannot wait to talk about it. - Yeah, so on Monday night, I went to dinner in a movie with my cousins. (laughs) I had date night with my cousins. So we went out to eat, and then we went and saw it together. There was a group of us, like, there was four of us that went to see the movie. One had never read the book. The rest of us had. - Three of you read the book. - Yeah. - Oh wow, okay. - But yeah, that's how I watched this movie. And then Kyle watched this movie all on his own on Wednesday. How was that for you, babe? - We'll get into our theater experiences. We'll talk about our theater experiences. We'll get into it. We'll talk about them. But I'll just say it was fine. It was good at good time. - Me and Kyle thought this would be fun, one if we did our first movie that we've watched separately, and then talked about it. Also, it's gonna be super interesting, because I've read the book, and Kyle has not. - This will be two opinions to the table. - I love doing episodes like this, because I genuinely love it, because the books are always so different from the movie, and we did this with "Knock at a Cabin," where I had read the book prior to the movie, and so I spent like 20 minutes just talking about the differences between the two. And so I'm actually really excited to see it. There's not ever, I can't read every book that is a movie. - Yeah. - So I try to look up the main differences, but I stayed away from that with this specifically, because I knew how excited you were about rereading this book. She read this book in like three days. - Yeah, I reread the book to watch the movie. So I could really make good comparisons. - Yeah, which was impressive. - If I remember correctly. - Which is what I did with "Knock at a Cabin." I was like, I read this a week ago, I don't remember anything, I'm sorry. - Yeah. - You killed it, you are dedicated to the craft, so I'll tell you that. You were like, I wanna be, she even said this, she's like, I wanna be a good podcast host, I wanna come ready, and I wanna read this book. And I was like, this is dedication right here, six doing episodes in it, she's finding her stride. (laughing) - It's gonna go after this movie, I was just excited about this one. Don't say that. (laughing) Oh man. - But then on Tuesday, I didn't do, oh, on Tuesday I went to the beach, I don't even remember. On Tuesday I cleaned the house, and then I went to the beach for a few hours. - What drives me nuts, what your vacations is, they're vastly different from mine, because Cass is like, everything needs to be cleaned immediately, and then I need to go do eight other errands, and then I can relax for an hour, and then I gotta do all these things, and I'm like, I even texted you, 'cause you had said I'm gonna clean, and I was like, did you relax yet? Did you sit down and just chill, and Cass is like, it's more fun for me to chill, in a clean environment. - Yeah, no. - I was like, yo, stop, just relax. - I'm someone I'm not, I can't relax until the house is clean, like me and Kyle will be sitting on the couch at 6 p.m. on a Sunday, and if I look around in the house as like a disaster, I have to get up and clean. - That is true, she ain't lying. - I can't do it, it just doesn't feel relaxing to me when I look around and see all the stuff I have to do. - What, the difference between us though is that you're a clean, you're a, get the urge, get cleaning, I am a, I'm gonna clean, like I'll clean Sunday mornings when I wake up, Saturday mornings when I wake up, 'cause I wake up, usually before Cass, and so I come out here and I'll chill, but I'll start cleaning up a little bit just to get the place looking better, nicer, not that it's ever like really that bad, but I'm much more of like a, get it out of the way as soon as I wake up, and then just move on to my day. Cass is definitely like a, you know, I think I could clean this, so I'm gonna do it now at like 6 p.m. And it's like, girl, don't you wanna rest and relax from the day? - I did, but Cass does not have the Sunday scariest. - I did, I just couldn't, I couldn't rightfully sit in this space until it was cleaned. - It was immaculate when I came home, I was like, "God damn, you really went all out, it's beautiful." - And I also just had stuff I had wanted to like, I wanted to go through my closet and get rid of things because I didn't have anywhere in my closet and fall is coming and fall is my favorite season to buy clothes for, so I knew I was gonna need some room for clothes. So I had to get that done. And then it was like, honestly, it was like two o'clock and Kyle gets home at fourth, was getting home at 4.30. And so I was like, well now what I do? So luckily we have a little beach right down the street, so I went to that and just sat there for like an hour and a half, two hours in red, it ends with us. And that's, and then you came home on Tuesday and we watched something. - That sounds right. Probably, that sounds like us. I feel like we probably watched something. I don't even remember what happened Tuesday. Remember you coming home from the grocery store? I don't remember waking up the next day. I don't remember anything that happened. - Yeah. - Weird, bro, did you drug me? - No. - What was it in dinner? (laughing) - But anyway, and then Wednesday came and Kyle actually has Wednesdays off. - Yeah. - And we decided not to swim the day together. (laughing) So it might have been, though Kyle was like, Wednesdays are my day off. I'm not changing what I do on Monday. - Well, don't make it sound like stuff. Don't make it sound like stuff. - I'm going to the movies. And I was like, oh, I was like, okay. So we really aren't gonna spend time together. I'll make plans too. So Kyle went to the movies and saw two movies and I hung out with my best friend Katie and her little tiny cute baby jet. - Listen, she makes you sound like I was like, "I'm gonna remember." - I would actually love to. - I would love to go back and look at the text messages of you being like, "I'm gonna go to the movies." Because I think I almost said verbatim, what you said. - Okay, you said, "I can't decide if I want to go "to Broad Cove or to a real beach. "I might go to the beach tomorrow "if you end up going to the movies. "I might go to Regal to be honest "and use my pass there tomorrow." That's what I said. I was really not gonna spend any time together tomorrow laughing emoji. I said, I mean, I said, I mean, babe, I need to watch it ends with us and catch up on like three other huge movies. Then that came out while we went to camp. When else would I do it? I know it's your vacation and we will spend time together but I need to very least see it ends with us in Cuckoo tomorrow. - I don't know, that was mean. I don't think that was mean. I think that was me telling you my truth. I had to catch up on movies. Funny part is though, I didn't even see Cuckoo yesterday. It was like, do I have to see it and then didn't watch it? - Yep, so that's what we did yesterday and then we had a little, we went to dinner and then we came home and he did his own thing and I finished-- - That's because I was gonna say you, we did our own thing 'cause Cass was like, I really just want to finish this freaking book. I've got like 35 pages last night. - I had to finish it. I was like, I'm not gonna partly read it ends with us even though I'd have read it before and this was just a refresher. I was like, I'm not gonna, what was the point of me reading half of it? - Exactly. - I'm not gonna finish. So I have all of the details for the podcast. So, and then today, I got the blessed, I got blessed with an actual rainy day. - This woman needs a rainy day to be lazy. - I am someone that if it's sunny out, I feel actually terrible if I just sit inside and read and chill all day. But today I got blessed with a rainy day. Thunder is lovely, I set the vibe in the apartment, had all the little lights on, not the big lights. I mean, you know what I mean, you know what I mean. You get the ambiance light. It's actually funny Spencer and I talked about this on a podcast not too long ago where I was like, what's it like when you watch a movie in your house? Like, what do you got going on? How do you set the vibe for yourself? And he's like, I have little lights I use, I don't use like the overhead. And I was like, no, I just say less. I know exactly what you mean. Cass has these like ambiance lights we use. - He set the vibe and I just got to hang out today and just I read my book and I did nothing else. - I looked like, there's no windows where I work. So it looked like it fucking pissed out all day. It was soaked when I left. - It thundered like in really rain for probably only like 30 minutes, but it was pretty cloudy and glue me all day. - You know, we didn't get this year under good, honest to God, main summer thunderstorm. - Yes, we have. - We didn't get like a real one. Like we get them, but it's like for like 30 seconds and then it just stops. - Yeah, and then I have tomorrow off and unfortunately I have to go eat new tires on my car. - What do we have to end vacation right there? - And then Kyle works on Saturday. So I actually have a Saturday by myself as well. - Yeah. But yeah. - What an exciting vacation. - What a fun vacation. I know I was getting ready for vacation. Everyone's like, what are you doing? Where are you going? I'm like, I don't like people ask that. - Nothing. - Yeah, cause it makes me feel bad. I'm like, was I supposed to go somewhere? - Like I'm just taking a break from you guys, okay? - I'm literally getting out of bed and going to the couch to do what I was doing in bed just on the couch. - Right, I actually, besides watching it ends with us on Monday and then watching whatever we watched on Tuesday. I don't even know if we watched anything at this point. - I think you read. I think you read most of the night and I did my own thing. Cause I remember watching, I watched Evil Dead 2013. - Oh yeah, yeah. - And you were like, I want to watch this. - And I read. (laughs) - So besides watching it ends with us this week, I have actually not had the TV on or watched anything else besides that. - You've never been a big TV person though. The entire time I've known you. Like if you have the TV on nine times out of 10, it's background noise. You are not someone that's like, I'm going to watch the show. - Unless I'm really into a show, which pretty little liars, vampire diaries. - Shows you've seen eight times. - Those are my shows. - Yeah, those are your comfort shows for some reason. - Friends. But unless I'm really into a show, I don't turn on the TV on. And right now I'm really in my reading arrow. So I try to read as much as possible. Can't read with the TV on. - Yeah. - In case no one knows about this on YouTube, there are these awesome ambience videos to put on your TV and they put like rain music or like thunderstorms or like light jazz and like sounds of like a cafe. I don't know, but if you look up like reading ambience, there are videos and they play for like hours. And so today I put on a video of it. It looked like, I can't never say this word. Edinburgh, is that how you say it? - Edinburgh. - I don't think that's how you say it. - Edinburgh. - I don't think that's how you say it. - Edinburgh. - Yeah. - That's how you say it? - I think that's how you're supposed to say it. - I don't know. - I'm not from Scotland. - Anyway, Scotland. - Yeah, I think we did Irish accents right there. Sorry, Scotland, we love you. - And it was rainy and gloomy and like dark academia, it's what they call it, and. - Wow, you are in like, you are in it now. I love it. - She's got like all different words for this show. - But it was a thunder, like rainy thunderstorm with like low chill like jazz piano music in the background. And that's what played on the TV all day while I read. So there was something playing on the TV, but it was just to set the vibe for reading. - So I can't even do that. When I read, it needs to be dead silent. - No, it was dead silent, my mind wanders. - No, see, mine doesn't. I focus when it's dead silent, when there's any noise, I'm like, I wonder what's going on with it. You know what I mean? - I think that makes sense that I have ADHD brain. - Probably. - Because sitting in dead silent, I'm like, hmm, think about this, think about this, I can do this. Right, if there's something playing and like it's kind of like I'm multitasking, I can focus better. - Fair enough. - But anyway. - Yeah, you do love those videos and they do work for the dogs too. Like you put them on for the dogs, you know what I mean? They love it. When we got to go somewhere and they're home, we'll throw those bitches on for them. They love it. I would love be curious to see how they reacted. We put on like a dog video or like a cab in you. - We can't. - So, this is where I'm gonna jump in now. I'm really sad that your vacation is coming to an end because I like coming home and having you just like chill and not be in your work clothes. - Yeah. - It stresses me out when I come home, three hours after Cas comes home and she's still in her work clothes. What's going on right now? Get out of that. Just carrying me. - It's like a camp. - And that stuff to do. So anyway, last week I asked you guys some questions. So let's go ahead and jump into those 'cause let's start with the poll. So we covered Beetlejuice last week and I remember during Beetlejuice we had had a conversation over whether or not we felt this movie was like spooky vibes only or if it's a year round movie. 'Cause it feels very much so like a Halloween movie but it's not set in a specific season. So I asked you guys, the audience, is Beetlejuice a Halloween only movie? The two answers were no, give me the juice year round or yes, Halloween vibes only. 64% of people voted for what then? - Halloween vibes. - You think 64% of people voted for Halloween vibes? - Yeah. - The answer is no, give me the juice year round. We had seven people say no, give me the juice and four people say yes, Halloween vibes only. How do you feel about that? - I get it, I get it, but I think those people that are saying, give me the juice all year round are probably just spooky people, spooky bad people. - Yeah, I mean, that's fair, that's fair. I would say this movie is like, give me a year round but I also am a guy that's like, I wanna watch Halloween six in the middle of July which is like the most fall movie I can think of. - I mean, we have spooky movie month the entire month of October, so. - So no, I kind of sided with that. I'm like a give it to me year round kind of guy but I also like spooky shit. So I see the correlation. I also asked you guys, what's your favorite Tim Burton movie? And we got four responses for that. The first one coming from Spencer at film update time, he said Batman. So if you don't know, yeah, if you don't know in the 80s Tim Burton did a whole Batman thing. Matt Michael, Michael, wow. - Yeah, Michael Keaton was Batman. For some reason I want to say Ben Affleck, whatever, like that's not right. Michael Keaton was Batman and Jack Nicholson was the Joker and I might get shit for this. I don't know how everyone else feels. It's probably my favorite Batman movie. I love the Dark Knight movies, but they're not my favorite. I vastly prefer Michael Keaton as my Batman. I think Tim Burton's just got this creative, wonderful vision that works so well with what Batman is. Next, we have a, Verde Braille says the Corpse Bride. Have you ever seen that movie? - No. - I have not seen that movie. I've been avoiding it for years because it looks really fucking creepy. I was like, I don't want to do it. But multiple people actually were like, 'cause I posted this on my story and was like, maybe I'll have to watch this. And everyone was like, how have you not seen this movie? And I was like, I just, not a guy who loves stop motion. It scares the shit out of me. Does he make a scary story out of stop motion? I don't know about that. Civis88 says Sleepy Hollow. Now, I watched that when I was really young. I only watched it one time at my uncle's house during Halloween. It was not super paying attention. It was like a party thing. But the vibes look immaculate. - Yeah, I think I like to watch it. I've never seen it. - I think we should watch it. I think we should watch it. I think it's like, I think that is right up our alley, especially once the leaves start to change and it's pumpkin season. I feel like we should definitely check this movie out. And the last one I got was from Eric Nolred who said Ed Wood, which I had never heard of. And when I posted that, I actually got a couple responses from people saying one person straight up said, this is the weirdest movie he's ever directed. Wasn't a fan. And another person said that it was their favorite movie and they owned it on DVD. So I've never heard of it, but apparently it's a true story starring Johnny Depp about a film director named Ed Wood. So I'm super into it. I'm gonna look, I'm looking into it. I wanna watch it. But the vibes I could tell was a very polarizing favorite. So that's what we had for that. Cass was actually did her due diligence at the movie and she even took notes on her little moped pad while she was at the movies. And she took notes on the trailers, which is crazy because I'd honest to God did not expect you to do that. And when you're like, I wrote the trailers down, I was like, wow, amazing. So we actually got the same set of trailers. Yeah. Hey, Lily, you wanna do the honors? No, you go ahead, I need to take it in from here. Well, let's hope you'd say that, okay. (laughing) Uh-huh. That's my brother, Ryle. The first official customer? Well, you'd have to buy something to be considered a customer. Right now you're just loitering. We all have an idea what love can be. I wanna see you again. Now you see me. You know what I mean. (laughing) That special connection you feel, that first kiss. I think they're probably played in the same order, but the first trailer I got was wicked. Yes. And I cannot remember for the life of me if we talked about this on the podcast or not. So I wanna talk about it now. This for me is 1,000 and 10% a watch. Do you think that the trailer let you know it was a musical in any way? It wasn't super obvious, but I think if you see who's, I mean, it's Ariana Grande. So I actually think culture just knows wicked is a musical, it's rather a musical, and so I don't think they have to advertise it as a musical, but I do think it's odd that they didn't advertise, they didn't show any of them singing at any point. Like you can hear Ariana Grande singing in the background, but they don't show her singing. I think it's honestly better that they show that it may be more than just a musical. How do you feel about this being part one, there's two parts? I don't think it's necessary. I would like to see how they do it. There's the two, Broadway is two nights. I've never seen "Wicked on Broadway", so I don't know entirely what it entails, but I love "The Wizard of Oz". I've never seen it all the way through. That's insane. (laughs) And I love, I know, even though I've never seen "The Wicked on Broadway", I know the music from it. I used to try singing "Defying Gravity", and I did it. That's from that movie, or that Broadway play, 'cause it's on "Glee" all the time. I did not know it was from "Wicked". It's from "Wicked". Okay, so I'm excited. I have to tell you, I'm kind of excited, because this is the first, so like the last time we, if we did talk about it, I think it was just teasers. 'Cause like this time, it was a full-blown, like two and a half minute trailer, and Jonathan Bailey was in the trailer, and I was like, "That's my God". But watching that trailer, I literally was like, okay, Ariana Grande is cooking here a little bit. For some reason, I was drawn to like her actually acting, and it sounded like she was, it didn't sound like her. And I was like, okay, she's like actually doing something here. I'm intrigued. And I cannot for the life of me remember her co-star, who's playing "The Wicked Witch" or whatever, but she's obviously, like she's fantastic. I feel so stupid for not remembering her name. Her name is Cynthia Irvow. - Oh, okay. I don't know if I've seen her or anything. I thought it was someone else. But anyway, I thought she was fantastic in the trailer too, and I was like, I'm actually in on this. - Yeah. - I'm excited. I am genuinely excited that comes out, I think on Thanksgiving, so that'll be fun. The next trailer I got, I don't know if, is again, I don't know if it's the same order, but I got here. - Yep, same. - Okay, starting Tom Hanks with Robert Zemeckis directing. I'm interested to hear what you have to say about this. You gonna watch it or skip it? - Watch. - Okay. Why? - I always have these moments of existential crisis. - Oh God, here we go. - Where I'm like, someone else has lived here and lived their whole life in here, and then I'm always like, and the person next door to us is living an entire life, and we know nothing about it. And it feels really, I'll like, used to look at my neighbors when I lived at my parents' house and be like, they're living their life in there. They're living their life in there. We're living our life in here. And none of them cross or into Mingle. I don't even know what they do for a living. I've never spoken to them, and they're just living their own life, and we never interact with each other. And it's just so mind-blowing to think about how many people exist on the planet and are doing the exact same thing. And like, I just think this movie reminds me of that. - Oh, I was gonna say, how is she gonna connect this back to this movie? It's very creepy. But because, if you don't know this, I mean, that does make sense, because here is, the movie takes place in one spot. - Yes. - Then the camera apparently does not move. Like you stay in this spot from the dawn of the dinosaurs, all the way up through to Tom Hanks and his wife, living there and eventually growing old together, the camera doesn't move. So like, you watch this one spot and watch life as it happens in this house. - Yeah. - And I think it is such a unique and clever and fun idea, but I am nervous that it's not going to work. - I think it will get boring. - Very boring, also the de-aging technology on Tom Hanks to make him look younger in some of the scenes, and I'm not a fan of that style either. - No, I'm interested to see it just 'cause like, there's never been a movie really filmed like this. - Agreed. - And I like the concept and the idea of it, but I think it will get boring. - I agree with you. It's gonna, they're gonna, it's really, really, really gonna rely on the cast to like pull all the way. And like, it's story to be so compelling that the camera doesn't need to move. And I applaud them for trying and I cannot wait to see how it turns out, but I'm very excited and I will be there when it comes out. - Yeah. - The next one might be one of my most anticipated movies of the year as of right now, mainly because I didn't know this was coming out until a couple of weeks ago. - Yeah. - And I finally saw the trailer for it and it is Saturday night, which is the true story of the first ever episode of Saturday night and the build up to that and how it happened. Cast, what do you think about that? - It's a watch for me, mainly just because of the cast. The cast is crazy. - Yeah, Gabrielle Bell. - Our boy, our snack shack boy. - Dylan O'Brien, Rachel Sennett, William Dafoe, who else was- - More and Morris. - Who? - More and Morris. - Yeah, I don't know who that is. But then Wolf Hard. - Yep, then Wolf Hard, yep, yep, yep, yep. - So it just looks like a really interesting cast of people and I'm just excited for the concept. - All really funny game people. - Yeah. - I'm very excited, man. When I was watching this trailer, I was like, I need this movie yesterday and I need it injected straight into my veins. - Right, also Saturday Night Live is so huge and it's just, it will be interesting to see how it came about because I don't know how it was created. - Yeah, in the background. - And from the trailer, it looks like it was a bunch of like 20 year olds that created it and that's insane. I didn't know that and that's so cool. - I'm very excited, mainly because like you said, I don't know the backstory and it's gonna be awesome to just see how these 20-some odd 20 year olds got together and made one of the most iconic shows on television. - Yeah. - Did you ever watch Saturday Night Live growing up? Like that was a career. So my parents, they loved it and occasionally they never, they didn't always let us, but occasionally we'd stay up and watch it with them. Even into my college years, I would watch it with my friends. I got really into it for a while. I sort of fell out probably 2016, 2017 and have not really watched it other than like clips here and there on TikTok. But man, I really loved this show. Like my parents had the best of DVDs and we'd watched that. Like just such a great show, part of my childhood. So I think it is fun and exciting to see the real story of that. - Right. I love watching the clips that I do see. So I think it actually would be really interesting to watch the show. I also just love like the people that are on it. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So, but anyway. - Do you get any other trailers? Was that like, I only got three? - Yeah, the only one other one was for a series, which I wanna watch. The Ring of Power, season two. They're doing like prime trailers now. - Yeah. - Uncomfortable, honestly. And they put it in the most awkward spot. They put it like second. I don't look at the other trailers done. - Yeah. - Just going into prime. That was very weird. Not a fan. I will never watch that show probably. - Really? - I don't like, this is, I'm not being controversial. I like the Lord of the Rings movies. I am not googoo gaga over them. Like everybody else on it for some reason. I think they're good. Some of them are fucking great. I think the first one is Immaculate. But, I don't know man. I just am not like so into it. We're like, I need a TV show now too. And like another movie's coming out later this year. The War of Rohan or something like that's coming out later this year. And I just, 50/50. You know? Take it and leave it. - I don't follow Game of Thrones. (laughing) Lord of the Rings. And I'm, we aren't even finished watching this series. - You keep bringing up that you do wanna watch them. I'm the one dragging my feet. - But, in case you guys didn't know and I haven't mentioned it, I'm in my fantasy era. - You've mentioned it every episode. That's like 40 episodes. - I know, I know. - You're not in an era. This is just who you are now. - I actually, I really think it's like becoming who I am. Like I think I found myself in reading these fantasy books which a lot of girls are saying that. But I truly believe it. Like even Kyle yesterday, like I was showing him like videos of like house decor that I like. And he's like, your aesthetic has changed so much when she started reading fantasy. - It's much more my speed. I'm like, I can get on board with this. I like this. - Like just much more like, dark activity. - A eclectic, like yeah. Kind of like the dark, moody stuff. And that did not used to be my style. But now I'm like, that's really fun. And it just makes your house feel so cozy and homey and not like a sterile environment. And so, yes. - Yes, yes. - Our house is slowly turning into. - A movie man pick. - Kyle's house. Which I never thought would happen. - I love it. - I'm taking over guys. It'll happen eventually. - Until we move into a house, I'm letting him take over. Once we move into a house, he's cut off. (laughs) But this is appeasing him for now. - So what got you into fantasy books too, was originally you just burned a reading slump. And then you found Colleen Hoover. And you ate her books up. And then you're like, I'm kind of, I remember you being like, I like Colleen Hoover. I don't care what anyone says, but I am ready to read something else. And then you jumped onto the fantasy train. But we have Colleen Hoover to thank for you jumping onto the fantasy train. And we're actually covering a Colleen Hoover movie. So let's jump over into our characters and our synopsis. - Yeah. I do just want to say that I used to read a lot until I got into college and then you don't have any time to read for fun. And I was one of the girls that Colleen Hoover made me find my love for reading again. So people can hate on Colleen Hoover as much as they want. But I know for a fact that she's the reason that my cousins read books now, that I got back into reading and I'm now expanding my repertoire into fantasy books. - She's the reason I got back into reading 'cause you were reading so much that I was like, "Damn, I need to start reading again." And I got back into reading. I don't read Colleen Hoover. I've read a couple of her books, but I read mostly Stephen Kang and horror and fantasy. But I have, I mean, I have to thank her too because you started reading and that made me want to read again. And so I mean, like, say what you want. You know, I kind of agree with a lot of the complaints about her stories, but at the same time, doesn't take away from the fact that she has brought millions of people back into reading. - Yeah. - First things first, we have the tagline to this movie. - Oh yeah, that's right. Oh God, what is it? Does it, it ends with us, it ends with us? - No, it is. We break the pattern or the pattern breaks us. - Oh, that's actually not bad. - It's good. - I don't dislike that. I was, you know, I caught my golf guard a little bit. I was being silly and they came with like, 'cause the real one too, which I actually have to say, I'm a spoilers alert for my opinion on this movie. I thought we were gonna get based on some of the interviews I saw. I knew the content, but I thought this would be a lot more silly, funny, goofy, ha-ha until we hit the serious stuff. It's not like that at all. We'll get into that later, I apologize, but this movie's tagline, I think fits it well. - Right, so disclaimer with this movie and with this podcast, it does cover some pretty serious topics. - It covers abuse and honestly, I think, great. - Yes. - Like it covers some really intense things. So it covers suicide, it covers domestic violence and abuse, it covers gun violence. - Gun violence, yeah. - It covers watching your parents go through, like deal with domestic abuse and not having anything to do about it, homelessness. - Yeah, this movie touches on a lot of things. So just the content warning for you guys going, yeah, that's a very good point. - We're gonna have some, I mean, it's not all serious. We're gonna have some non-serious issues. - Oh my God, yeah, of course. And this movie's not like so serious. You're gonna be depressed. I just thought we were getting a comedy drama and what we got instead was a drama. - Yes. - And it's not like fucking Sophie's choice or anything, but it does deal with heavy topics. And I'm glad you brought that up because there are people who probably are sensitive to these subjects and we should let them know ahead of time. So go ahead and read the synopsis. What's this movie all about? - Lily overcomes a traumatic childhood to embark on a new life, a chance meeting with neurosurgeon, Ryall sparks a connection, but Lily begins to see sides of him that remind her of her parents' relationship. - Mm-hmm, yeah, that's good. I like that. I think it's pretty straightforward. - Like it doesn't mention anything about her-- - Atlas. - Yes. - And I will say that my one complaint about this movie is it does a good job. - Oh, we'll get there. We'll get there, save it, save it. Do you have it in your negatives? Write it down because I wanna save it, save it, save it, save it because I wanna save it. Okay, go ahead. Let me have it now, let me have it now. Give it out to me. What is it? - The biggest thing with this movie for me, not the biggest thing, but a big thing with this movie is it doesn't show you how important and impactful her relationship with Atlas was like it does in the book. - Okay, I was gonna say I was gonna disagree with you because I think, and I don't wanna spoil anything for my takes, but we'll get there. But as the book being in the, same as the book is the qualifier there, I haven't read the book, so I don't know. But I thought it was, I thought their relationship with Atlas. I agree it fell short, but I think it was impactful, which is important, but obviously when we get to the section where you talk about the book and the differences, we'll get there. The cast is as follows, Blake Lively plays Lily Blossom Bloom, try saying that name through terms fast. Holy hell. Justin Baldoni plays Ryle Kincaid. I almost said my boy Ryle Kincaid, but not my boy Ryle Kincaid. - He also is the director of this movie. - Did you know he directed Five Feet Apart? - No. - I didn't want either. I didn't get a filmography 'cause I was like, why have I not heard that this is his debut? And I realized it's not. He's done like four of the movies. We both happened to like Five Feet Apart. Brandon's Glenor. - Sclanar. - Sclanar. - Sclanar. - Brandon's Sclanar. I don't know, I'm sorry, butchered that. As my boy Atlas Corrigan, there we go. That's my boy. And Jenny Slate, I had to put her down as Alyssa and also Hassan Minaj. I did not write down, but he is Alyssa's husband. - Marshall. - The Marshall, that was gonna say, his name's not important enough, but as you felt. - He is quite important in the book, I'll settle. - He is? - Yeah. - 'Cause in the movie, he's in it for like six seconds, but he's mostly comedic really. - Yeah. - All right, that's what we're dealing with here. So let's go ahead and jump into our positives and negative. All right, since I'm kind of running the show here, why don't you give me a positive first? - It's the smallest positive in the world. - That's fine. - But I love the opening scene. And I think they portray us the aesthetic of a small town in Maine. - Oh. - Oh, Maine, yeah, there's a guy in the theater next to me, bro. He literally threw his hands up when he saw the sign that says like, "Plethora Maine." There's not a real town, I don't think. Plethora Maine, I don't remember town of Maine, but it doesn't sound like one. And he threw his hand up and pointed at the screen. There's like a 50 year old man. He's like, "Duh, Maine, Maine, that's where we are." And his wife was like, "Sweetie, we're not at home "or at the movie theater." And I was like, "Good on you for fucking pulling him back in." But also like, "Yeah, dude, it's Maine." - Right. It was fun when I was reading the book though. And I was like, "He, she's her Maine." - You did mention that it's own. - Yeah, it just like, I don't know, makes you connect with her more when you're from Maine. - Yes. I actually was like, "Okay, I know who this woman is now." You can say less, I get her. I'm gonna start with the small ones and she started with a small one. Blake Lively's hair. Girl, that is some gorgeous locks you got going on. I literally think this movie made me realize I don't like Blake Lively as an actress. I think she's one dimensional. She does a fine, serviceable job. But her fucking hair needs to be famous. So her hair in this movie was amazing. Especially the scene where she has it all curled up and they go to that party. I was like, "Yo, that's my look right there. "I love it." So just an 80-bitty one to get the juices flowing here. Give me a big one here. Give me something you really like. - A big positive for me is, I was a huge complainer about the casting of the people in this movie. - You and everyone else. - Majorly against it. But if you take away the age that you think these people are supposed to be based on the book, I do think that Blake portrays Lily. Well, she portrays her really good. Ryle, when I first saw Ryle on screen, my immediate impression was that I hated him as Ryle. It's not who I expected to do. - Really? - 'Cause in the book, Ryle is like this drop dead, gorgeous, muscly guy that you like, she like shocks Lily when she sees him for the first time. And like Justin Belldoni is not no ugly fugly, but he's also-- - He's very handsome. - He's also just not drop dead, gorgeous. - May I say he's a smoldering attractive? - Yes, but that's the thing. - He's very much so smoldering attractive. - It is, as you see him act when you see him portray Ryle, you start to understand, oh, okay, I'm like, yeah, he plays Ryle well. - Yeah. - First impression, didn't like it, but throughout the movie, I think he did do a really good job with the role. - Yeah. - I also did not like when I saw the images of Brandon splinter as Atlas. But on screen, he's my guy, he did a really good job portraying Atlas, and I was super happy with that casting, actually. - I'd never heard of him. I couldn't place him anywhere, and I actually didn't look up his filmography. I should've, but I thought this was a huge get for him, 'cause I don't know him as an actor. And so it just kind of felt like a relative unknown to me to just get a very important part and a very important movie. - Yeah, he hasn't been in really anything big. - I liked him. I thought he was very good. I thought he was very good as Atlas. And then lastly, Jennie Slate is Alyssa. While I do like the comedic relief she brings to this movie and how she is, she's a good actress. She's not who I pictured as Alyssa and still not who I pictured as Alyssa. - She didn't pull it off for you. The way Justin Baldoni did. - She played the emotional role really good when she needed to, but Alyssa is supposed to be like this gorgeous, rich, like, honestly, like I picture her like very beautiful, like almost like girl next door, rich girl, but then her personality is supposed to pull you away from that. - Oh, they kind of nailed that. I thought she was very obnoxious. - Which it does. And like that's probably why they did cast Jennie Slate is 'cause she could-- - Oh, she's great at that. - Per tray, this is the rich girl, well, also like, 'cause in the movie, I mean, in the book Alyssa and Marshall, like Marshall's big thing is like, oh no, Alyssa, you sound like a rich girl, no, no. Because even though they are filthy rich, they don't, neither of them act like it, like at all. - Well, he even says I drive a toy out of Camry so I could feel like relatable to people and he's been driving the same toy to Camry for like 10 years, he said. - Right, and I think it just would be better for me if like Alyssa walks in the door to the flower shop and you immediately get this idea of who she is in your head. - I did, I think they did a good job with her cause, specifically her cause of being in that one scene. - Yeah. - I was like, "Okay, she's very clearly for money." - But also, like, so in the movie, it's a small thing, but I made a big, big mark in my head. She's holding her Hermes purse, which is very expensive purse. And she's like, "Okay, we're just gonna need to clean off a spot for me to set this down." In the book Alyssa is like gung ho to start this job. She doesn't make the comment about like hating flowers and going to leave. She walks in and she's like gung ho. And when Lily says she's hired and she asks when can she start? And Alyssa says right now, she just drops her purse on the ground, on the dirty ground. - But I kinda like that she was like, "You gotta clear your space out for me here." Because like, really let you know this character is like, she might be like, she might be kinda fun in like a quirky way, but she's also very rich and doesn't wanna dirty her shit. - But I like it as like, she's like, she's very rich, but the money doesn't matter to her. - Okay, I kinda liked that she was a little more-- - Because in the book, they make a very big point about like how we're rich, but we don't wanna sound like rich people. - Yeah. - Because they weren't rich when she married Marshall. When she fell in love with Marshall, he was very, very poor. - He mentions that in the movie too. He's like, "Yeah, you love me before I had money. I love me since I was poor or something like that." And he like made a big deal and they had, so I had the dinner party. - I do think casting Jenny Slate and Justin Belldonia's brother and sister was good. - They have the same nose. - I do think they look alike. - They have the same, when she was standing side profile, I was like, "That is Justin Belldonia's fucking nose." - The other complaint, we didn't name this character, but Jenny Bloom, who is Lily Bloom's mom, played by Amy Norton, Amy Morton. Jenny Bloom is supposed to be a very beautiful woman. - Well, books, everyone's beautiful in books. Everyone's always drop dead gorgeous. - But they say that like-- - Don't let people in the world. - Lily looks just like her mom or whatever. And come on, like-- - We didn't actually mention that her father's played by Kevin McKitt. - McKitt, yes. - Who's on "Grace of Nat," "Grace of Nat" to be fame. - Negative for me. I'm like, "No, oh wait, don't do that to him." - He used it like it because of it, yeah, exactly. He used it like it 'cause it was always. - But as much complaints as I did have with the casting initially, I do think all of them did portray the characters. They did them justice. - Nice. - So that was a pleasant surprise for me. - I'm gonna keep it in the same vein and I'm gonna say Jenny Sleet. - Yeah. - I think Jenny Sleet is a massive positive throughout the film. I think she brings like a real world. This movie can feel very fairy-taily in the beginning. - Mm-hmm. - Well, I wanna get into that a little bit later too. But it feels very fairy-taily and not kind of centered in a realistic courtship I feel sometimes. And I think she brings in that like, what the fuck are you two even doing? Kind of vibe. And I think it works so well most of the time. So I actually loved her in this and I love Jenny Sleet. But I am gonna tell you when did I not say this before I saw the movie and they showed her in the trailer, I said, "Oh, it's gonna be comedy." And you were like, "It shouldn't be." And I was like, "Well, Jenny Sleet's in it." And she was like pretty famous for being a comedian. And she's done serious stuff, but mostly comedy. And you were like, "I don't think it's comedy though." So I was pleasantly surprised to see that she had some emotional moments that weren't funny at all. And moments that were mostly comedic. And I was like, "I get behind this. "I get behind it. "I liked it a lot. "I liked her a lot." - Yeah. My, another big positive for me is about Atlas and how Brandon Skinner played him. Because he does such a good job of showing with his facial expressions and like how he cares himself, how much he cares about Lily. Like even from that first shot in the restaurant where like she goes to see him and they start talking. - His hand all over his face. He just like, you can tell like physically, I was gonna say physically, you nailed it just. I'm so glad you said that. Show don't tell. He doesn't tell you. He cannot believe it with his words. He shows you. He cannot believe it because he is constantly just like, I mean, the way he moves his hands alone in that scene. I was like, this is a wonderful piece of acting, beautiful piece of directing on Baldoni's part to just be like constantly shifting around his hand. And he like, cannot believe Lily blossom blue when standing in front of him. - Yes, because they make a big deal about, I mean, they do show in the movie like how Lily saved his life. - Yes. - But in the book, it is so much deep. - I'm sure it had to get cut for time though because there's this movie, it's two hours long, two hours and 10 minutes long. And when I looked like that runtime up, I was like, that's crazy. But as the movie progressed and I had a hint of where we were going, I was like, there's so much ground to cover and there's not enough time. It's almost like two hours was not enough time to get into everything. - Yeah, they did have to cut it down. But, and then you see like the rage in his eyes and he notices Lily as a like a black guy in Ryall's hands all wrapped up. And so he just, he is a great actor and he did a really good job at portraying like how deeply important Lily is to him. And I think that was great because he actually didn't get a lot of screen time. - That's the thing is he didn't get a ton of screen time but with what screen time he did have biggest impact on the whole movie, biggest impact on the whole movie. I actually am gonna keep it in the same pain again and talk about the Atlas and Lily reunion. I specifically think that the scene where she is with her mother and Ryall at the restaurant for the first time and she ends up bumping into him in the back and she's just like, he's like, how are you? He's doing the whole thing with his hands and he cannot believe it's her. And he's making up the fact he has a girlfriend just to like be on par with her at one point. I also love that he never mentioned that it was his restaurant. - Yeah. - And he's like, I just work here. Beautiful, loved it, very humble guy. And I think he carried that over from, his whole character was very humbled the entire time from kid to adult. I think the young actor to the adult actor did a great job carrying one thing to the next considering it's two different people doing this character but the reunion scene when they see each other for the first time, I'm gonna admit it. I did not tell Cass this until right now. I cried, I thought it was beautifully shot. I thought the emotion was so electric and kinetic that they weren't even talking and you can feel, you can truly see on their faces and in their body language that their past is now staring them in the face and it's a past that both of them yearn to have again. Not exactly the situations they were in but the people they were with. And I think that scene specifically sold me on, I am now in this movie. It comes like 40 minutes in, 35 minutes in maybe but in that moment I was like, I am buckled up, I'm ready for this ride and it's not played to make you cry. It's not played for big shocks and tears. It's played so you can see these two, hey, new character being introduced. They have a past, they have history but the way Blake Lively and Brendan Sclanar act in that scene. And Maldonie's direction to them is so lifelike. I had to shed a tear and I wrote down in my notes. I was like, did not expect to be emotional over every union, you know what I mean? And that stems from another positive, I'm just gonna throw it out there. The young atlas and young Lily story. I think that is, it comes so late in the movie, it comes like 30 minutes in and then you get atlas like 10 minutes later. And I was like, wow, it's kind of weird they're introducing it now, it's a little late, right? No, it comes at the perfect moment, it's the perfect build up and you already have that emotion connected, that connective emotion to them. So when they meet again, wow, it just takes you off your feet. I mean, it was beautiful. So I think the young atlas, young Lily story was my favorite part of the whole movie, quite honestly. And then the reunion between them was just amazing. There's no other way I can describe it. I mean, that scene alone, it's my favorite scene in the whole movie besides the fight between Maldonie and Sclanar. Yeah, also the casting of them is amazing. - Yo, that little girl is just like Lately. - Just like Lately, they actually have the same mole and I guess people had been asking her, the Isabella Faragirl if it was real. - Oh my God, I assumed it was fake, is it real? - It's real. - No, she actually has that mole, but also her voice. - It was the voice for me. - It's Blake Lively's voice, like it's so similar. - Her lips and smile were spot on with Blake Lively. I legitimately thought that in the movie. I was like, fake mole, whatever, but she sounds just like her and her lips and her smile are just like Blake Lively's. - Yeah. - Wonderful casting. - It was. - Wonderful. I think the young atlas young Lily stories the most emotional and best part of the movie. It's the emotional backbone of the movie because it gives you everything that happened one to atlas, but two and most importantly, two Lily and her family. Like you need that there because the first part of the movie she's told to give a eulogy and say five things she loves about her dad and she can't do it. My first thought was, oh, her dad must have beat her mom. That was my first thought. Turns out he was, which not a shock considering the content of the movie. But knowing, guessing that and knowing that and then seeing it play out are two different things and seeing it play out, I mean, it just shatters you to your core because of the way it's done, but oh, it's fantastic. - So really interesting fact that I don't think they show in the movie very well is did you see Ellen playing in the background? - I did, yeah. - Yes. So in the book, Lily is obsessed with Ellen DeGeneres and Ellen DeGeneres show. And so all the flashbacks you get in the book, you're Lily, since going back to her father's funeral, she used to write journal entries. - I noticed that. They didn't do anything about that. - Journal entries were addressed to Ellen. - Oh, okay. - Because she felt weird writing in a diary. So she would pretend she was writing letters to Ellen. So she's write dear Ellen and then write about everything that was going on in her life. And so all the flashbacks you get of seeing like what actually happened between her and Atlas, it is Lily rereading her journal entries now that she's retrieved her journals from her parents. - Okay. - So that's how you see all of those flashbacks. And also, Ellen plays a big role in their relationship because that's what they'll watch after she's put together. - Yeah. - And then they have this, they tell each other to just keep swimming. - Oh, yeah. - So it plays a big role and they don't really talk about it in the movie. And I don't think-- - It's more of a nod to the readers showing Ellen in the background. - Right, I don't think they have to necessarily use that because they can actually show flashbacks instead of like having someone-- - Utilizing a writing tool. - Yeah, flashback and writing. But interesting tidbit of information for you. - So we're running really long already. And I want you to give me one more positive. If you can only pick one more, what would it be? - I actually, so I made a comment that I was, at first gonna be a negative for me, that they made the abuse look too accidental. At first, they made the abuse look too accidental. So when she gets hit in the face, you don't even see Ryle actually-- - Complete accident. - Like swing at her. When she gets-- - It looked honestly like an elbow, but he's pulling his hand out of the oven and he's like shit, and he hits her in the head with an elbow. - When she falls, when he pushes her down the stairs, it really does actually look like she could have just flipped a ball. - She kind of jumps from him. - Yeah, so I was really upset at that at first because I was like, they are really making the abuse seem like it really could have been an accident. And so Ryle telling her after the fact that you ran, it was my elbow or whatever. - You fell on accident. - Or you fell, or you fell down the stairs. Like, I'm like, it actually does look like that. - It does, yeah. - But then they flash back after she realizes that she's been, she has been being abused, and they show exactly like he did swing at her and her in the face. He did grasp her by the arms and push her down the stairs. And I think that really, really highlights like, when someone is going through abuse, and I'm not talking like I have ever experienced it because I have not, so I cannot talk like that. But I feel like it could be, it's very reasonable to think that when someone is going through abuse by someone that they truly do love, and they have so many positive aspects of their relationship. If they're going through abuse, they're going to do everything in their head to tell themselves, no, that didn't happen like that. Maybe I did just slip, maybe I did just fall down the stairs. And so I think it really is a great way to show been like all this time she's been believing his stories because she doesn't want to believe that it's true. And so she's remembering it like that because a lot of times you'll shove things into your subconscious-- - Oh, your brain does crazy things to protect yourself. - And you will, right. And you will remember it the way they're telling you to remember it 'cause that's the way you, it's a defense mechanism. - Yeah. - And then when she finally really truly realizes, no, he's abusing me, then she remembers the things as they actually happened. And I think that is really masterful work. My last thing I have written down is the slow build up to abuse. I thought the same fucking thing when he pushes her down the stairs and they're in the bedroom and he's stitching up her head. My thought was how are they gonna make him look like the villain? All of these things have been accidents. - They really-- - And I was really bothered by that because I was like, I don't want this abuse to look like an accident because he's abusing her. But it is he? And then when you get to seeing her, she's putting two and two together and she's kind of actually seeing the memories that she has of the situation. And you actually see him haul off and fucking smack her in the face and physically shove her down the stairs. You realize, okay, we were seeing an unreliable narrator right there. She even says that at one point. I'm an unreliable narrator. Yeah, of course, you are, she is. You can't trust what you're being shown because she thinks she's not being abused and she is. And I also think the slow buildup to one that revealed was, like you said, masterful. The patience. I want to say just about the only patience here is incredible and it is fully on display because this movie waits until the 11th hour to even show you the truth. And I think that is, I take some guts and balls to do because you're alienating a lot of the audience by making it look like an accident until you finally bring a full circle. So I think you get a little tube gone happy or a little too nervous and you show it too soon. I think it doesn't play out as well. I also think, I wrote down to my notebook. I should have written them in my notes on my iPad but there were four or five specific scenes that I saw where I was like, this is pure manipulation and controlling on display. She gets a drink at the party. She says, please leave me alone and stop talking to me. And he tells her to one, shut up. And he is not joking around and he's not like, they're not in the heat of the moment having a fight. She's telling him to stop stalking me essentially. And he says, shut up. And then after that, removes the alcohol from her hand, her drink that she got, he takes it away from her. And I don't know if you noticed this, but throughout the movie, I would love for you to watch it again and pick, see if you pick up on this. He snatches things out of her hand. He does not politely take things. I thought it was such a small, stupid little detail that is perfect to show that he is such a controlling and angry person. He pulls things from her hands. Sheets, clothes, the glass from her hand. Everything he does is with aggression and it's so intense. And it's like the little tiny things seeped through to show you where this is gonna go. I also think the opening scene with him is pretty telling. - Oh yeah. - He starts kicking chairs and throwing them around. I think it's very explicit. He's showing you who he is. And I think that moment along right there should have been a huge red flag because immediately he looks at her and he's like, "I wanna fuck you now." And it's like, there's an issue here. And no, it's not immediate, they spend time talking. But it's so close together that it's like, you should put one and two, one and one together. You know what I mean? Or two and two together, that was a dumb sign. You should get two and two together and kind of see where this is gonna go. But unfortunately, like a lot of abuse victims, you're just blinded by love 'cause your partner, you love, would never do that to you. And so I think examining it through that lens was a fantastic choice and a dangerous choice 'cause they could have alienated a lot of people. But Baldoni, his patience and his slow build up, incredible. - Yeah. - Let's move on to negatives. I'm gonna go first with this one, costume designs. - Yeah. - I have to say, I didn't read the book. I do not know what Lily Bloom looks like in the books. Ugly, hideous outfits. Things I would never want to see in real life. Things that if I saw in real life, I'd avert my eyes immediately for fear of going blind. These outfits were ugly. And it's not Blake Lively, she's a beautiful woman. And it is not even Jenny Slate. I think she's very attractive. Their outfits are fucking ugly. The only outfit that worked for me was when Jenny Slate walks into the building and she looks very rich. - Yeah. - It's the only outfit I saw that I was like, "Okay, you got one." Other than that, what are we doing here? - Right, my big issue was with Lily's costume design. And in the book, yes, Lily is very quirky, eclectic. She has like an interesting style, sure. But I hated, as a girl from Maine, that every outfit she wore, she was wearing some sort of car heart, car heart jumpsuit on the roof, car heart jacket over her like, bulge, like evening dress, like car heart pants. Like everything was like frumpy and they made it like she was shooting a crop top with car heart pants to make it somewhat less frumpy. But it's just like, just because she's from Maine, doesn't mean you have to use fucking car heart. - I agree. - Also, the layering with like the boxers up to her face. - The layering, bro. - It was just bad. Like her costumes in this movie were terrible. And I think they were trying to portray like, a Maine girl that has like a quirky sense of style, but it's like, no. - Yeah. - No one dresses like that in real life. - No. - And it was the car heart onesie thing on the roof. And I was like, what are we doing here? - Like what is she working at a fucking mechanic shop? - That's what it looks like. - Because the only people in Maine that actually wear that workout mechanic shop. - She looked like Michael fucking Myers. - Yeah. - Like she looked like Michael Myers in those overalls, but it was so ugly. I literally was like, what are we, what are we doing? I'm already distracted. It was just off putting the minute I saw it. - Right. It's like, man girl moves to Boston. And this is her, like how she like styles her car hearts from home. And it's just like, no one for Maine dresses like that. I hate that they portrayed us like that. That was my-- - We dressed from people than that. All right. - It's literally literally, like it was I, that's a big negative for me for sure. - Yeah. Give me one of yours. - So. - 'Cause you don't, that's not have many, but I am curious to hear what you found negative. - My biggest negatives are things that happened in the book, that did not happen in the movie. - Do you want to save that for compare and contrast? - Sure. - Okay. - One of my negatives is that Lily went to bed with Ryle, with her fishnet tights on, underneath her-- - No. - I'm like, you guys are literally getting her undressed. Why can't we take off the fishnet tights? - No one's gonna sleep in fishnet tights. - I had the thought. - The most uncomfortable form of tights. - Yeah, I thought the same fucking thing while I was watching it. - And there's a moment where like you think it looks like Ryle's possibly pulling off her tights. You find out that that's not what happening, he was pulling up her pants, but like, you can just not show her feet, and then no one will know she's running the fishnet tights. - Exactly, it was bad decision. - Because it's just not realistic. - I agree, 100%. It was terrible. I literally had the thought, I was like, Cass would probably rather die than sleep in fishnets. - Yeah. - My next, my next negative is Jenny Slate. - Oh. - Yeah, Poole, I have Jenny Slate in both negative and positive. I think she contributes so many fantastic things. I also think she is the tone runner. I think there's so many moments in this where they shouldn't have a joke or a punchline, and she is right there with a joke or a punchline, and it's not her fault. That's why they hired her. That's the decision they wanted. That's the direction they wanted to go in. I get it, but boy howdy. There were a lot of scenes where I was like, just shut up, you gotta stop talking. Because you are ruining this moment. - Right, same thing with Marshall. - Agreed, 100%. - Like he was just too... - Fat bro-y, crypto bro-y kind of, and it's like the vibe, he's not like, no human would not pick up on the vibe right now. - Yeah. - And he's somewhat goofy and playful in the book, but not to the point of how they had him portrayed in this movie, it just made it really annoying. Also, what they don't tell you in the book is that Ryle and Marshall were actually best friends, and that's how him and Jenny met him and Alyssa met. But, you just can't see Ryle being friends with someone like that, and so I think-- - I can only, because I think that Ryle needs someone to bring him down. - Yeah. - Like, to have fun and get his head out of his on us. But I don't think he'd be like a friendship with her. Like, in the movie they're obviously very close, but it's because they met later in life. I think Ryle would have thought he was deadweight and cut him, you know what I mean? - Yeah, so I just don't like how they have them portrayed, and I know there's supposed to be the light-hearted parts of this movie, but it was just like, you don't, sometimes it takes away from the impact of the storyline. - Oh, 100% agree. I think that was the biggest issue. Do you have anything else for negatives? 'Cause I'm curious. - Or is it all just particular? - My other negative was that they had Alyssa tell Lily-- - The story, yeah. - The story of what happened with their other sibling. - Emerson. - Because we'll get to this, but in the book it's told in a different way, and it makes it much more impactful than having Alyssa give her that news. - Yeah. - Also, I hated in the movie they had Ryle ask Lily to marry him right after Alyssa gave birth in the hospital room. - Yeah, it was dumb. - This is her moment. - I forgot about that scene. - And a big thing in the book is that Alyssa has a really hard time getting pregnant. - Oh, okay. - And that's why she actually gets the job with Lily. - I didn't know that. - Right, they don't go over that in the book. - Wait, why should she get the job with Lily? What steps are they gonna be pregnant? - Take her mind off of that, she can't get pregnant. - Thought it was weird that she's like, I want a job here, it's like, why? - Yeah, that's why that's the main reason she got it is because her and Marshall are trying to get pregnant, she couldn't get pregnant, they've tried everything, and so she gets a job with Lily, so she's not just bored and thinking about that all the time. - Fair enough. - So it's not her only priority. So if you have that knowledge going into the movie, and then they, one, they don't mention it in the movie, and two, they take away from this birth that is a miracle in the making because they had a really hard time getting pregnant, and they take that away from them by making it about Ryle and Lily, I hated it. - Yeah, but I can kind of see where they're coming from because it's just a lot, they're doing this so much, it's kind of hard to fit that in there too. - Right. - But I understand what you're saying 'cause it's a huge chunk of who these characters are, it gives you more depth to them, but I don't think they were looking at it that way. - Right, in the book, it's still really like a fast thing. Ryle's parents are visiting, she starts talking to Alyssa and Lily are talking to each other and, 'cause Alyssa just found out she's pregnant and Lily, Alyssa asks like, "Lily, would you ever marry my brother?" And Lily says like, "Yeah, I'd marry him right now "if he asked me," and Ryle's standing in the doorway, and then she's like, "Well, marry me," and they go to Vegas and they get married, but they don't actually like cover, they're just like, "Oh, we went to Vegas, "we got married," and then they're back, so it's not like, it took a lot of storyline to do that, a lot of time to do that. But I like it that it's a separate moment than Alyssa's birth, because it's just like, anyone that like wants to get proposed to, or wants like, they don't want it to be one on top of someone else's special day. - Well, of course not, that was awful. - Right, like people that like propose at other people's weddings. - How annoying it is to have a kid and then your brother proposes to his girlfriend in the room, you just give birth, get the fuck out of here. - And I realize Alyssa and Lily are best friends and she's just as excited for them, but honestly like, - Yeah. - You just push an eight pound baby out of your hoo hoo. - It was really frustrating to me that they did it like that, because why? What was the point? - I agree. - It would have taken 10 seconds of a movie-- - They couldn't have been walking out of the hospital for Christ's sake, and he was like, "Let's get married." She's like, "What?" You know what I mean, that would have to be there. - Right, but that-- - I actually did, I forgot about that scene, I did not like it. - Yeah, but that's my last negative that doesn't have to do directly with like, just stuff they didn't explain that they did in the book that I think is super important to the story. - For time's sake, I'll also only give one more. My last negative, and I don't know how you feel about this, the ending, when she bumps into Atlas, I fucking hate it. I fucking hate it, and here's why. I love Atlas, and I want him with Lily, love that. I think the movie should have ended with her saying it ends with us, and it just fades to black. Get a divorce from him, do the damn thing. I feel like it sort of undermines her decision to be a single mother for a little while. I know this happens, this is what, like a year later? - Yeah, I think he's like almost two. - Yeah, two years later. So she's been single for a while, and I understand that. And they bump into each other, and even if they'd bumped into each other, but didn't say anything, I would have been happy. It's them talking to each other. I'm like, we don't need this, we don't need it. This sort of undermines everything she was just doing. Feels like she's very much so like, I'm just gonna get with him again. I just didn't like anything about it. Now, I could have swallowed the pill. Had they just had her walking down the street at that farmer's market, and him turn around, and they see each other, and I like the shot, they kind of see each other. There's people walking around him, but they're locking eyes cut to black. I fucking hate that he goes over to her, and they start talking. She's like, that your kid, I saw your earlier, blah, blah, blah, blah, shut up, don't eat it. And then she's like, so you single now? And it's like, you're still single or something? And he's like, haven't found the right one, or something. Yeah, I'm still single, haven't found the right one, or something like that. And then it fades to black. Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, I hate it. - See? - Brought the movie down quite honestly for me. - Because I have more knowledge about their relationship from the book, I didn't hate that. Because in the book, you realize that no matter what, Lily and Atlas are endgame, and they will end up-- - They are endgame. - And Atlas says in the book, like, when my life is good enough, I will come back for you. - In the movie he says, when you're ready to love again, please love me. - Yeah, but that's something they don't explain, like before Atlas leaves when he's, when they're children, he says, when I've made my life good enough for you, I will come back and find you. And then you find out that he actually, when he gets out of the Marines, in Lily's in college, he goes to her college, tracks her down, and he sees her with a group of friends, happy, laughing. A boy comes up and kisses her, and he's like, okay, she's happy without me. I just don't feel like my life is good enough for her, and he leaves and walks away. And goes and does another tour on the Marines, and then comes back and starts his restaurant or whatever. And so you see, like, throughout their entire life, like, he has never once forgotten her. He went back for her when he got out of the Marines, but he still didn't feel like he was, his life was good enough to have her a part of it. He also was, she also was happy, and Atlas's biggest thing for Lily is that, he just wanted her to be happy. Whether or not he was in her life. And so I think it was super important to see at the end that she's gotten through this hard part with Ryle. They're divorced, they're figuring it out, they're co-parenting. She's ready to love him. She's ready to love again, and he's there. And then he says, "My life is good enough for you now." Whatever. And I think it's important. It's also important because you have the second book now, and it has to lead into that. - I truly believe, still, even if they bump into each other, they could see each other, just don't have 'em talk. I hated that. I thought it just took the wind right out of my sail. I literally got up, as soon as it cut to black, there could have been more after that. I cut to black and walked out immediately. I was livid, livid that that was the ending. I muttered the whole way out of the theater. I was stupid, I didn't like it, I hated it. I brought the movie down from it. I thought it was corny as fuck. - But, us readers know that we want to see Lillian Atlas end up together. - Oh, I do, too. 100% I want them together, too. - We need that happy ending. - I want them together, too. But I think they could have just shown them and she cut to black. - There was not going to be a second book. She wrote the second book because so many people asked for it. - Yeah, I remember you telling me that. - And so I think that if there was never going to be a second book, sure, all along she was planning on having a second book, then she could have done what you wanted to do. And the second book could have been about them reuniting and running into each other. But where she had zero plan to write a second book, we needed to see that Atlas and Lillian ended up together and that's how they did that. - But I think you could achieve that through nuance. Maybe not in the novel, maybe she needed to do the novel, I didn't read it. But I think in the movie, there should have been a little nuance where it's like, you can infer that these two are going to get together now because they're there, like, it's been years. And she's ready, clearly. And they're making these very intense, steamy eye contact. And I was like, yeah, that's fine, but we don't need them to talk. It was just talking. I was just like, ugh. So that was my last negative that I have because we are really running long on time here. I love it because it's been a great conversation. We're going to quickly do our rating and then our favorite scene. And then we're going to jump over and you are going to tell us the biggest differences between the book and the movie. - Okay. - Go first, the floor is yours. What are we giving this movie? Actually, give me your favorite scene, obviously. And then we'll say our score at the same time. I like doing that with you. I like giving this score at the same time. - My favorite scene is, oh God. My favorite scene is probably when Atlas sees the bruise on Lily's eye in Ryle's hand and follows her to the bathroom and then they get into that big fight. And then... - My melodramatic toxic little girlie right there. - Yes, but then I also have to make a really big... My other favorite scene I have to say too is when they're in the hospital bed and after Lily's given birth and Lily's saying to Ryle, what would you do if your daughter ever came to you and said her boyfriend hit her? What would you ever do if your daughter came to you and said my boyfriend tried to rape me. And Ryle says I would beg her to leave him. And I just love that he realizes that's the position he's put Lily in and he realizes that he just has to walk away. - Yeah, I like that scene a lot too. Very intense, very emotional, heavy, heavy scene. - Because you realize that Ryle with all the... He's an abuser, but he's not intrinsically bad. And I think you get that more from the book and knowing his background and what's going on. - I still think he doesn't give an excuse to hit anybody. - I don't either. I don't either. - My favorite scene is the reunion scene between Alice and Lily. We don't even have to discuss it. I already talked about it because I love that scene so much. It is so emotional. That is hands down my favorite scene. My second favorite scene is the fight scene between Alice and Ryle. I love that scene. It was very intense. And then my third... - Did I have my restaurant? - Yeah, he's like in his face, like three inches from his face. But I think my third favorite scene because of the intensity and disturbing nature behind it is when Ryle says read it and forces her to read it. And you can tell where the scene is going 'cause he's forcing her to do things she does not want to do. And you know where the scene is going. It's very uncomfortable to watch. And then you find out he tried to bite off her tattoo and rape her. And it's like, what are we doing here? - It's just like I just haven't shown you that I love you enough. - Yeah, I don't care about you. Actually, I don't think there's much in his background that can fucking excuse that, man. - It's not so black and white in the book. And I think that is truly why they chose to not talk about it in the movie is because they don't want to make any excuses for abuse. 100%. - Yeah, we'll see. I, there's, yeah, there's just no excuse. But that's my favorite scene. Now on three, let's give our score. Ready? One, two, three, three and a half. - Three stars. - Okay, we're a lot closer than I thought we were gonna be. I thought you were gonna give this five because not gonna lie, I looked at your notes. You were holding your notebook up to show me how sloppy your notes were because you're writing in the dark. And I saw one thing that just said all capital letters, loved and it was underlined. - And I did love this movie, honestly, with all the negative reviews I was getting and what I was expecting. It did, I liked it a lot more than I thought I was going to. I did, I loved this movie. It is not a five star 'cause there are some things that I would fix, like the wardrobe. And I do wish the casting was younger. - In dialogue things, I didn't bring it up, but I had like numerous issues with how they were talking and the words they were saying. I was like, this is awful. But yeah, I agree. There's, I think it's a good movie to watch with people you love. If you just try to have an emotional night quite honestly. - Maybe my cousin's crying in theater. - Yeah, I mean, I teared up. But I think there's a lot that can be improved on. Even some of the editing I wasn't a huge fan of. I wasn't a huge fan of like the fucking close up shots that were like just their eyebrows to their chin hated that and thought it looked terrible. But yeah, I think overall, this is definitely worth the trip to the theater to see. For sure, I give it three and a half. So we're gonna skip over the reviews because we were running a long time and Cass is gonna tell us the biggest differences between the book and the movie. - Yes. So number one, biggest difference, Lily's 24 in the book. She's young, she's just figuring it out. - They even say how old they are on the movie though? - No, but Blay Clapley's in a little minute. - I think she's 35. I think Blay Clapley's 35. - And you can tell. - She's beautiful, but you can tell. - She's definitely not 24. - Yeah. - I don't think anyone in that movie looks under the age of 35. I think Ryle looks also like he's 36, 37. Hassan Minaj look like he's 33, 34. Jenny Slate again, she looks like she's early, I mean mid 30s and Blay Clapley looks mid 30s, early 30s, mid 30s. So yeah, definitely no one in the movies under the age of 25. - Right. So one of the biggest differences besides their ages is in the book, Ryle tells Lily about what happened when they were kids to their brother Emerson. They're playing with a gun. Ryle thinks it's a toy. He shoots Emerson in the head. They're in the garage, their parents can't hear them yelling. And they actually, Ryle talks about how he was trying to put his brain matter back in his head because he thought he could fix him. And ever since then, he has these blackout episodes where when he comes to, he does not remember what he did. And it coincides with rage. And they talk about how he's been going to therapy for it since everything happened with Emerson. It makes it more gray of the abuse because in the book, Ryle truly, when he snaps out of the blackout rage, he doesn't remember what he did during it. And that's when he's abusing Lily. Is it, can you get so angry and so full of rage that he literally blacks out and does not know what he's doing? It's a good choice that they didn't do it in the movie because in the book, you do feel bad for Ryle because it makes you believe that he doesn't know what he's doing when he's doing it because he's blocking out. And when he comes to, he's realizing like, "Oh shit, I hurt Lily again." And he doesn't even know he's doing it. - It's caught up to me. I think it's stupid. I don't like that at all. - Right. - But I think that is just the worst way of being like, I don't want to make him the villain, but I need a bad guy. Fucking glad they didn't include that in the movie because that is, I think that is God awful dog shit. I do. - But if you look at it from the point of view of like someone who is with an abuser that isn't entirely bad and you'll hear people say like, for a while, the good parts outweigh the bad parts and that's why I stayed with him. And I think that is a huge case on a lot of abuse things 'cause you always wonder, why didn't they just leave? Why did they just, why did they stay with them? Why did they take it? And it's not always so black and white. There are huge gray areas. Like Lily, in the book, they, to her and Ryle, talk about these black out episodes and how they're going to deal with it and how they're gonna prevent it from hurting her again. And they talk about like, when I'm starting to feel angrier, we're having like a heated conversation. We will both walk away until you've calmed enough where we can have a conversation to try and prevent these blackout rage episodes from happening. So there's like more planning that goes into it. Ryle asks for Lily's help to like help him through this because he doesn't wanna hurt her. He doesn't know that he's doing it. He's been having these episodes since he was a kid. He's been going to therapy for them. He wants her to help her through it. And as someone who's a fixer, I would understand that of being like, he's truly not meaning to hurt me. Maybe I can fix him and we can work through this together. So I do think it really does a better job of just portraying like, to people like, it's not always so black and white of like, why didn't they leave her? And it does make you sympathize more with someone being abused because a lot of time people are like, oh my God, I can't believe she didn't just leave him. - I think in my experience with situations like that because I've never dealt with it in my life, but I know people who have. And it's more that they're afraid to leave because of what's gonna happen to them in the real world. I have not heard of these like in the real world blackout events where people are, I know that happens. I know, no, no, hold on, let me finish. I know that that happens. I'm aware that that does happen in real life, but I have not heard that excuse when it comes to abuse. But I understand that this argument is for the sake of the novel. Like it is for the sake of the book and the story being told to make you sympathize with the abuser to kind of be like, we can't control it, makes the character a little more gray, which is what you want in your characters when you're writing. And I understand that. But I still think I'm glad 100% that is not in the movie because if that was in the movie, this movie would be dog shit. - Right. But I also, so another thing I said is in the book, we see Lilly making a lot more excuses of reasons to stay with Ryle, which feels a lot more true to an abusive relationship. - Yeah, 'cause we only get two instances of it in the three instances at the end, but she leaves after the third one. I thought, which is pretty common in writing, one, two, and then the three rule. But I think it would have been nicer to see, not nicer. I think it would have been a little more in line with realism if she had made a little, a few more excuses, and we had seen more, unfortunately, more-- - Of her fighting with like, what do I do? And I think it's hard for, because in the book, you see that her mom's abusive relationship, like her dad, they never really had good moments. Like her dad was just an abuser. Like he was just a bad guy. And so in the book, there are parts where it is like, "But I see the differences between Ryle and my father. "Ryle's compassionate, he does things my father. "Never would have done, he donates to charity. "He cares about people, he puts me before everyone else." So she reasons of why her abuse is different, because her and Ryle have such a different relationship than her and her dad and her mom did. - No, I don't mind that so much. That makes sense, because she's trying to rationalize why her situation is different than everyone else's. - Because she said she would never end up like her mom. - Yeah, no, I like that, I enjoy that. - She was like, "I don't know why my mom doesn't just leave. "I'll never end up like my mom." And then to excuse herself when being like, "Well, it's not the same situation as my mom and my dad." Because it's not, but it shows that abuse happens in a lot of different ways, never makes it okay. But that was just another thing that they showed a lot more in the book was her reasoning with why she's staying with him and all of that. She also has a massive conversation with her mom. At the end, after she's decided to leave Ryle and explains to her mom that she's been being abused. And it's a huge part, like it's a huge redeeming portion for her mom as well. So I wish they would have done that in the book. Because in the book, in the movie, her mom honestly was kind of an annoying character to me. But in the- - In one moment where she says, "Why don't you leave him?" She's like, "It would have been harder to leave him to stay." - Yeah, and- - Like that moment, because I think it kind of hints at the situation, but they never have a direct conversation which kind of sucks. - Right, but in the book, they have a huge conversation and her mom's like, Lillie's asking her mom, "What would you do? Would you stay with him?" And her mom goes, "I think it's important that you remember your limits." She goes, "Because when I was with your father, I had my limits at first too. But then as more things happened, your limit increases and it increases." And you're like, "Oh, well, at least the third time he hit me, it was open-handed." And I was like, "Well, at least this time, he didn't hit me with like a close fist." And like, so your limits just get bigger and bigger. And she's like, "It's really important that you remember your limits, Lillie, and that you don't change them." But it's just like, it's a really good conversation that shows like Lillie exactly like how like, because she thought really negatively of her mom for not leaving this relationship. - Oh yeah, I mean, she hates her in the movie too, she can't stand her. - And in the book, they have this conversation and it really redeems her mom's character and like makes Lillie understand better. - Kind of wish we'd seen that in the movie because that other guys, 'cause I think the mom is kind of obnoxious until that one specific scene. And then even after that, she's kind of disappointed. - And another thing she says in the book is she's like, "Lillie, I know when you got up on that stage and you didn't list anything about your dad, it's because you really couldn't say anything positive about your dad." Because in the movie, she pretends that she just froze up. - In the movie? - Yeah. - In the movie, she just goes, "I can't do this, sorry." And gets off the stage. - All right, and her mom's like, "It's okay, Lillie. I shouldn't have put that much pressure on you. I understand why you froze up." In the book, at the end, she's like, "I didn't just think you froze up. I know you did that on purpose because you couldn't say five positive things about your dad and I've never been more proud of you." And it's just another being, it's another huge redeeming factor for her mom. And it's just like-- - Right. - I understand like this movie just, it was already long as it is and I couldn't include it, but I think it's good to see them have that healing talk as well. Yeah. - What else? Oh, in the book, she also has a lot more hatred for Ryle after Bill of Fine and a lot of the time of abuse. - Yeah, she's very forgiving in the movie. - Yeah, so after-- - Very forgiving in the movie. - Yeah, so in this one or in the book, Ryle goes to England for some resident, like an extension, it's more training for like neurosurgery or whatever. And he's gone for like three months and that was, he left like a few weeks after she found that she was pregnant. She also stayed with Atlas for like a couple days after. - In the movie, it's like a day. - Yeah, she stayed with Atlas for a few days, then found out that Ryle was leaving and when he left for England, she went back to the apartment. She didn't tell him for the entire three months that he was gone, that she was pregnant. So he came back and he found that out. She wouldn't let him touch her. She wouldn't see him without someone else around. She actually had Marshall like come down and supervise their visits. She said things like, I can't believe part of that man is growing inside me and I can't believe I'll one day have to admit that to him. - Oh wow, yeah. - So she holds a lot more hatred for Ryle and she actually says some pretty awful things to him. - Fair enough. Fair enough. But I just think that they should have showed that more in the movie 'cause they do like-- - No, she's over it all. Like the whole bit. - All of a sudden, she's over it and she's letting Ryle help set up the nursery. - She's moved on very quick. - And she's getting in the hospital bed with her. In the book, it's like months and months of her like not even talking to him. - Yeah, I was uncomfortable with that. I was like, she's just obviously a very forgiving person but we also know she hated her father until the day he died. So, I don't know. I thought that was a bit confusing as well. I thought the pacing there was off his foot. - Right. - She was like, do you want to join us in the bed? And I was like, fuck no. Absolutely not, get this man out of the room, fuck him. - There's another thing that she said that I was like, oh my God. But it just makes sense. She's so angry at him for putting her in this position when she said hold herself. She was never gonna be in this position. And now all of a sudden, her life that she had envisioned for them has changed and that makes so much more sense than how they portrayed it in the movie. I would, you would be rage-filled if this life you've thought out for yourself and what's gonna happen and how you're gonna have this kid and it's all changing. Now the kid's gonna be raised with separate parents and all this stuff. And it's just like, she put her in the position that she swapped herself so she would never be in. And the rage that she feels in the book is so much better than the movie. It's too quick in the movie. And I realized it has to be quick because it's a movie. But it's just like, oh, he abused her. - I mean, their movies are three and a half hours long. They could've done more with this, I think. - Yeah. - Extend it. I feel like this movie definitely needed a little bit more time 'cause things happen very quickly. Her forgiveness bothers me. I thought it was really annoying. - And in the book, it takes months and months for her to even speak, it's like three months before she even speaks to him again after that. - It's kind of annoying actually 'cause you said she doesn't let him touch her. But in the movie, she's like, do you wanna feel like kick? - It takes like six months for him to her to be okay with that. - Yeah, but I just didn't like that she even wanted him to. And I'm not saying like you need to process your trauma in any specific way, process it at your own pace, process it how you need to process it. Everyone is different. My way is not the right way. But I just felt in, I don't know, it just rubbed me the wrong way where she was just like so, she was not forgiving in the fact that she was gonna get back with him. She wanted a divorce and I thought it was very poignant the way she said it and very straightforward and backed it up with some great cases or great points. But it's the nonchalantness she has when she's like, do you wanna get in bed with us? - Right. - Do you wanna join us? Do you wanna feel the baby kick? It's like, yo, he just tried to eat a piece of your flesh off and rape you, no. - Right, exactly. And in the book they do portray her being like so much more fearful. Like when Atlas brings her back to the apartment for the first time, she has him come up and look through every room to make sure he's really truly not there. Like she doesn't let anyone see her with like, she just doesn't see him unsupervised for a long, long time. Like when he's touching her, like she gets transported back into the night of him like raping her. Like it's just like, they'd portray it like the fear a lot better. - Yeah, yeah. - And it's way more realistic. - Was there anything else that you wanna talk about too? - No. - That's the only, those are the three big differences. - Yeah, the ones that I think matter the most to me. - Okay. I mean, those are pretty important ones. I think the last one specifically is actually the most important because it does change the tone and character tone of the movie and character that is Lily. - Yeah. - Like changes a lot. And I think this movie could have benefited for being 25 minutes longer. - Yeah. - Make it two and a half hours, bro. I watched Oppenheimer for three hours, was kill the flower moon for three hours and 40 minutes. You know what I mean? - Right. - I don't think it needs to be three hours, but I think adding even 20 minutes would have made a huge difference in watching her process, the trauma that she just went through. She went through some really traumatic shit. - Right. - That, I mean, most people would not be over in a month or two. And it feels like just a few months later, she's like, do you want to feel them kick and all that? And it's like, you know, the dogs are getting restless, they need us to end. - Yes. - The dogs are getting restless. They're ready to wrap it up. So I mean, that was a fantastic conversation. I hope you guys enjoyed that as much as we did. I love talking to you about this. This was so much fun, so insightful, really intense. Just like this movie, I think this movie has a lot of really fun things to offer. And I think this is definitely a worthwhile trip to the theater. - Yeah, I would actually go see it again. You wanted to see it again, but you actually made the decision to see your friend, which I think was the best decision. You're like, I think I'd rather see Katie. I'll watch it again some other time. And I was like, fair enough, I appreciate that. I can respect it. So with that said, I mean, that's the end of the episode. We appreciate you guys. Stay tuned for a big announcement coming later next week, probably. I'm not going to say anything now, but there will be a big announcement coming and share us like us. Follow us on social media. Rate us, please, that's a huge, huge, huge help. And we appreciate that. So with that said, go watch a fucking movie. - Data Park. - Dave just brings out. - Just wondering, you know, after this movie, if I don't go to print it, and you know, they're not busy, man. We can go to a piece somewhere. - Pick up on Friday then. - Oh, right, Friday, uh-huh. - So, do you want to do something to me? - What's a wonderful day? [MUSIC PLAYING]
