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Ep. 874. What Is the Halacha If One Made an Al Hamichya After Dark but They Ate the Food While It Was Daytime?
What Is the Halacha If One Made an Al Hamichya After Dark but They Ate the Food While It Was Daytime?
Okay, so we are in the middle of going through the second part of Sumin-Resh Kress, which talks about the Brahe-Achas-Mein-Shallish, the Al-Ha-Mirchia, Al-Ha-Gethan, and Al-Hau-Aids, and how to work with it, the various different ins and outs. Okay, so an interesting question comes up, brings on the safe road to Al-Achas, actually in our seminar, right? So we spoke about it, let's backtrack a minute. We said in the broch of Allah, Mihiel, Allah, Gefen, broch, Akos, Mein, Shallish, Allah, Gefen, Vala, Paris. Okay. So if it's Shabbos, we mentioned, you say, you would say, 'Bakluten, miyam, shabas, asa, before the words, kyat, asa, sham, tai, vermate, if when you're finishing off, you fill in what the, if it's Shabbos, fresh, shaydish or yamtif, let's say it's yamtif, shavua, as you would say, but some kind of, some kind of yam, shaydish, vuas, asa, if it's fresh, shaydish, we're going to say, if it's a hranul al-trivah, biyam, raishah, qaydish, asa, bai, raish, qaydish, right? If it's Shabbos, we'll say, 'Bakluten, biyam, shabas, asa', so that's what we fill in, and then, and so can it send whatever the case might be, or paizah, whatever it is. Okay. So that's what we fill in before the words, kyat, asa, sham, tai, vermate, vuas, qal, right? So we saw that. Now we said, if somebody forgot to say it, then you do not repeat the broch, asa, broch, asa, Mein, Shallish, like if I made Allah, Mihiel, and I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos, I forgot to say it's shabbos So then you would not repeat it now, but an interesting Question brings on safer. I swear locus in oise mem allif. Okay, we'll work oise mem allif in simen rash has He says what happens if somebody makes the alamikya after it got dark after it got dark, right? And now it's not it's not sharp. So what's the not that? Let's hang out this right? I'm eating cake whatever shall pursue those but okay in the whatever 20 minutes passage you have to make the alamikya right away But I ate I ate, let's say cake for shallow shooters You're supposed to wash you're supposed to make a full meal by shallow shooters. Let's say whatever the case is for whatever reason one Couldn't and they ate cake, which is only but yeah, but you're supposed to like I said sit down wash have a regular Sholish suit this you have to wash with a mere regular regular meal Like the other meals, but the evidence if somebody ate cake So so the question is right on on but say they they not I'm sorry Right, so the question is now they're benching after it got dark, right? Okay, so I finished whatever 20 minutes ago a half hour ago whatever the case is and The bottom line is I'm benching I'm saying this alamikya or in a case in time where I ate grapes or whatever the case is Because once you finish if it's after skier you can't start eating. That's that's the problem No, because if he ate once he finished all the students he can't start eating but let's say Case in time that it's part of the shallow shooters for whatever the reason is but Like the case of the cake, right? So so now the question is what do I do? I'm benching after I'm saying the alamikya after it got dark I forgot to make it or whatever. So do I say do I still say it would say welcome to them yam shabs is there So so let's backtrack by by benching if somebody benches right we go after the beginning of the suit In general, we go after the beginning you the suit is started on shabbas and even though the fact is that I'll pursue this I sat down to eat before skier right I'm eating so so fine It's that shabbas and now but I benched I benched after after after it got dark So by by by pass so that brings down the shulchanar brings down just quoting from the safari to a lockers Which is quoting from the shulchanar very simple But then in is kuf test vov on the bottom look domulus through the pasta Hasheva of us leanin But who boss has called us a through the bypass by bread we go after when did you start you start on shabbas? So you say you would say right even though by shallow shooters if you forgot to say it say you don't say over But the other two first two meals you do but I started be a I started while I was shabbas And then I finished and I and I benched after it got dark so fine So I say I go after was leanin, but who boss has calls to do that go after the beginning But when it comes to broch a kas mein shulash right so then we go it's interesting we go after the end he brings that down He brings that down at the end over there in an ice-meme all of the im hischomiboid yum right if for whatever reason I started Before it's I started when it was still shabbas I started when it was still yomptive I started let's say in a case in time by Reschrydish right when it makes it easier because you deal with skier whatever But it's now it's Reschrydish and I started eating my grapes and I'm Munching on grapes and I ate enough grapes and everything enough to make an alcohol eights, right? So the question is but now and I started the wall is fresh radish But now the now is night time and it's not Reschrydish anymore right or now it's item. It's not Chavez anymore Whatever it is. So the question is over here Do I put in receive our wholesome yum shabbas is that do I put in the cranial the tree will be your inertia Redish has that for Reschrydish or if it's let's say Shibuya's for example Right do I say this I'm going to be a mortgage for success because I started eating I started eating my meal when it's when it's daytime when it's when it's the Reschrydish when it's shabbas when it's yomptive Whatever, but I'm saying to al-hammikya. I'm saying the al-oh aids. I'm making it when it's dark So then we say interesting to know that our luck is that we go after when it's dark We we in other words if you're saying to al-hammikya later on you will not make the you would not put in the Insert in other words if if it was shabbas when you start leading you say about what you do not say it If you say when it's dark if it was Reschrydish Yeah, right when you start leading the grapes or the cake or whatever and but now it's not it's after dark, right? So there's a clean of the time of your inertia coalition say you would not say because right now It's not Reschrydish when it's when it's by bread, then you do say it right by shabbas Let's say so I do say it I go after the beginning So that's what he says the im hyssal me boy join me started eating while it's day of a vera misha Khashar But now you made the after broch after dark and by day it was Reschrydish by day you might have been shabbas by day might have been yomptus, right? But now you made the after broch when it's dark so a name ask him a yena ma or a rah then we don't say the fill in We don't say the parts that have to be filled in like we said the quin and tumbabia misha chaddish is having a chaddish group Not say we say we're saying we're gonna show them so that we would not say if you if you're making the after broch When it's dark and that that day finished, right? I like him came oh all gah me chaddish. Oh, unless somebody actually ate after dark So by shabbas it wouldn't apply so much because you're running into this problems after skia and then and after Before half dollar we can eat right so so let's say a simple case of the case in time by Reschrydish By Reschrydish, right? Well today, what's rich? Reschrydish and after saves the quin and tumbabia misha chaddish. I said I started eating while it's light And I'm eating cake munching on cookies and everything and and now I stopped it But I made my broch a corian for whatever reason after it got dark I would not save as a quin and tumbabia misha chaddish is there But in fits Reschrydish right that I'm munching on my cookies and this and that the Reschrydish finish and now it's nighttime now It's nighttime Oh, I can oh gah me chaddish. I hope but and I'm still eating or or I eat Part of the cake or part of the cookies or whatever it is whereby I'm need an al-himech a eight part of it at night Right also, then I would talk a say then I would talk a say a then I would talk a fill in some kenu of the kernel of time of the year in Reschrydish has there Okay, so it's just it's actually the other way. I just want to explain one thing Just to flip it around. I said a little bit the other way actually he quotes In simming kufte test as a safe right through a lawless explaining it Like we said, but if person eight he's talking about not that the eight if the sharpest but if a person let's say eight On Reschrydish. Let's say it'll take a case. I'm Reschrydish I started eating before Reschrydish cake and I ate and I ate cake on Reschrydish after it got dark also Right, so then and it continued on. Let's say by let's say case in time by cake make it easy So then I would say then I would put the fill in of the kernel of time of the year in Reschrydish has there That's what he means. He doesn't mean the other way in other words like this Let's read it again in simming kufte test. Well, I didn't I feel in my school. I don't know so you know I say Paris mizarin mean him. I bought you and I started let's say let's say in case in time when it is Reschrydish That I started with work me in gimme a la acache chache chache chache I started when it's still Reschrydish Well, it's taking an easy case of Reschrydish because then there's no issues of after all or whatever, but It's Reschrydish and and the same thing would apply by shab the same thing would apply by yumptive, right? So I'm eating cake and then I'm finished But I made my afterborn work me in gimme a la acache chache chache but I made the alhammichia After it got dark the dinoi The anemaz came in a moment over so I made my alhammichia to get dark that I would not mention The alhammichia because of the fact that I go after the when I say it I'm that's the bottom line over here. I go after when I'm saying the alhammichia I will imocha like we mentioned I will imocha la chache chache but if I But if I started let's say when it's not Reschrydish I will imocha la. I'm eating a chache I'm drinking rather say wine gamla gamla acache chache chache. I started look at what he's saying I started when it's not Yumptive, right? It's when it's not Reschrydish, right? But but but I drank where I ate the cake whatever I drank wine gamla acache chache chache After it got dark as I must cure me in haemora Then I would fill in the zachwin on the table be a mesh of traditions there or whatever the case might be shab It's a yumptive whatever it is. I would fill it in As I'm asking I'm I for a piece of his coming by yum even though I started when it wasn't Reschrydish, right? But I would in this case I would fill in why because in a case that I'm eating When it is Reschrydish or shabes or yumptive or whatever the case is though those cases are a little bit harder Bottom line is what it is what it is With a with a brach achas me and shalish when if with an F the brach you put the fill in when at the time You're saying the brach if it's not yumptive anymore and you're saying it after dark Then you don't put the fill in if it's now if it's not if it's not Reschrydish So then you put in the fill in as long as you ate At that time But if it if it if you're ready finished and you're saying the brach achorna F2 was and it's not Reschrydish So you would not put the fill in same thing shabes same thing gumptive. Thank you for listening us lots of brach a call to