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Ep. 870. When Making an Al HaMichya and a Boreh Nefashos, Which One Comes First? When Making an Asher Yatzar and an After Bracha, Which One Comes First? Could I Make an Al HaMichya Without a Boreh Nefashos?

When Making an Al HaMichya and a Boreh Nefashos, Which One Comes First? When Making an Asher Yatzar and an After Bracha, Which One Comes First? Could I Make an Al HaMichya Without a Boreh Nefashos?

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11 Aug 2024
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When Making an Al HaMichya and a Boreh Nefashos, Which One Comes First? When Making an Asher Yatzar and an After Bracha, Which One Comes First? Could I Make an Al HaMichya Without a Boreh Nefashos?
Welcome everybody, Cheyenne number 870, getting back to where we're at Holchusburgers. Okay, so interesting thing, two interesting thing, two important things to, I just want to talk about, with somebody asked me in there, every so often the question comes up, somebody asked, the question is, I'm eating two different things, one is a burner fascia, it's the F the broch is burner fascia, it's okay, I'm drinking a coffee, which happens a lot, right? And I'm eating cake, which is al-hamigia, and I finished the cake, I'm eating a cake in coffee, fine. So I'm not getting into one broch to broch, I'm eating it separately, eat it separately, drink it coffee, whatever, because there's a whole issue of you dipping it in the whole time, okay, we're not going to get into that right now, but I eat it separate, I drink some coffee, I eat some cake, I might dip it in, so two separate broch, it's fine. I make my mezonas, I make my chahakal, but now the question is, I finish my cake, I finish the cake and I want to continue, and this, again, this is something we've discussed in the past, but these are things that have to be hazard over and reviewed constantly, and what I try and do is, as we hear questions come up in these areas, we try and just review it and possibly add something to it, which is something so interesting today, so maybe it has a may, so I want to make my, I finish the cake, I want to make an al-hamigia, but the question is, the burner fascia is, I did not make the burner fascia is, on the coffee, so when I make the al-hamigia, is there a problem if I wait with the burner fascia, so I'm going to still drink my coffee for the next half hour, right? So, okay, so the answer is very simple, that you could make an al-hamigia, I can make my al-hamigia on the cake, it's no problem, and the burner fascia I'll make when I finish the coffee, right, and the same thing the other way also, let's say, usually it's not the other way, but let's say the other way, I make my burner fascia, I finish my coffee, I drink up the coffee one, two, three, I make a burner fascia, but I'm continuously eating cake for the next half hour, so then you can make the al-hamigia later, and the thing to keep in mind, which we spoke about not too long ago, and that is that the two brushes have nothing to do, one has nothing to do with the other, another is the al-hamigia, as something to do with the burner fascia, it's burning fascia down with the al-hamigia, in other words, if I mix them up and I make a burner, al-hamigia instead of burning fascia, which we spoke about not too long ago, that one is not Yaita, right, it's in Semen Rechrez, we spoke about it over there, quoting the sake of Chainalachis and from the Mishabira, or whatever, from the Mishabira actually, the Chainalachis all quoted it, but if so many mix it up, I made my al-hamigia by mistake, it said a burner fascia, it's no good, you have to make a burner fascia, but let's say I made a burner fascia instead of al-hamigia, it's also no good, in other words, the burner fascia is not like a shahakal, right, as we know, shahakal covers everything, did he ever, somebody made a mistake or whatever, you try and fix it up, but initially the first bite, shahakal would cover everything pretty much, if somebody had it in mind, that's an important thing to keep in mind also, if somebody had it in mind, have five things in front of me, one is ha-dama, one ha-eats, one shahakal, if I made a shahakal, it doesn't go on everything, it does not go on everything, we have to understand that, it only goes on to shahakal, but with all my kids time if I had it in mind, I had it in mind, I had it in mind, but after shahakal, okay, so then that's another issue that would officially cover, right, I have a piece of cake and I make a shahakal by mistake, so you take a first one bite and then you try and take something else with the mazonos and make the right brach, okay, but I don't want to get off on attention, but getting back to our laka, so, but if you mix up the brachas, burn the fascia's own, if it doesn't, it's no good, the burner fascia is not like a shahakal after bracha, meaning if I made a burn of fascia, it's my mistake, you still have to make alamish, if I made alamish, if I made alamish, if I made alamish, if I made a burn of fascia, it still has to make a burn of fascia's, okay, but, but if you finish separately, I finish my cake, so no problem, you can make alamish, it has nothing to do with the burn of fascia, it's two separate things, right, and then later on, when I finish the coffee, I just threw me a drink to the right amount, or whatever, right amount of time, so then I could go ahead and make my burn, burn of fascia, and the other way else, like we said, burn of fascia, as I can make, and then if I finish my cake in a half hour, I could go ahead and make my alamish, and now the question is, what about if I finish them both together, which bracha do I make first, that's a very interesting question, right, do I make my alamishia first, do I make my burn of fascia first, so I think most of us would probably, if you want to guess, most of us would probably guess probably alamishia, right, because it sounds like this, and it's a big bracha, so it's a prima godem, simen rage base, the seifershine al-laka springs it down from the beer hal-laka, in simen rage base actually, and the seifershine hal-laka springs it down in ice-choth, actually, simen rage base, ice-choth, in the seifershine al-laka is the second paragraph, and he's quoting a beer hal-laka, which is like one line over there, and he says, l'omise brings the prima godem, that the synced the al-ha-mih, I finish them together, now we'll talk about a case I finish together, I finish my cake and coffee together, I have to make both, al-ha-mihia burn of fascia, it's right, two separate brachas, fine, very good, so the question is, what do I make first, so the prima godem says, that you make synced the al-ha-mihia, it's more harsh of, I would make a al-ha-mihia before the burn of fascia, so that's how the beer hal-laka brings it down, and that's how the shain al-laka quotes the mishebura, I make my al-ha-mihia, and then I make a burn of fascia, which is, I think, most people are under that impression, I just happen to see interesting in the deershoot, he doesn't quote from anybody, but I think in simen rage base, ice number 60 in the horrors over there, he brings down an interesting thing, that if somebody went to the bathroom, let's say, and they realize, after they came out of bathroom, you have to make, actually, you have to write away, right, that we know, but they realize also, they realize also, they have to make a burn of fascia, they forgot to make a burn of fascia, so what do you forgot to make al-ha-mihia, so, but first, the person has to make the ashiyatsa, ashiyats has to be made right away. Okay, just a quote from the deershoot, it's again a 60-way, he's going on that beer hal-laka, om-nam-le-in-in-mihia-ok-al-do-var-cha-hi-bro-cha-cha, and if somebody ate something, we eat a brocha-cha-cha-cha-cha, I forgot, I forgot to make my brocha-cha-cha-cha-cha-cha, and I went to the beer for me, so it's right, for him, so, it has to, oh, I'm sorry, I read it wrong, the niska kudim shabbal of earth, ashiyats, in other words, bottom line is, he remembered, he comes out of the bathroom, right, and now he remembers, so he very, I forgot to make my burn of fascia, so my coffee, or he very, I forgot to make my al-ha-mihia on the cake, right, and he remembers before he made the ashiyatsa, he comes out of the bathroom, he remembers, so what do I do now? Do I make my burn of fascia, so my coffee, which I finished, right, or do I make my ashiyatsa, which I just came out of the bathroom, what do I do? So he brings from Sivzai, in Sifkatan Beiz, from the Rachal, okay, that shabir kasashiyatsa, kudim, ashiyatsa, kudim, ashiyatsa, would come first, may I ask you, to deal with it, because of the fact that it's todir, it's something that one does more often, usually I make ashiyatsa more than al-ha-mihia, usually I make ashiyatsa more than burn of fascia, right, so since it's todir shanit todir kudim, that's the klal in general, but we're talking about probably where you don't lose the shear eco, if you get to lose the shear eco, if by the time I finish making ashiyatsa, person's gonna lose the amount of time he has to make it after brokha, then look over it, you make the after brokha on the food, right, let's say it's 71 minutes, for example, you have up to 72 minutes, and after I ate my cake, it's 71 minutes, I realize it's 71 minutes, so then, look over here, you make the brokha aquarina first, al-mihia first, but what we're talking about in a regular case is not the issue, it's within the time frame, everything is good, so but I don't, I just remembered before I made my ashiyatsa, I came out of it, that I have to make al-ha-mihia, so should I make the al-mihia first, should I make the burn of fersions first, should I make the ashiyatsa, so we make the ashiyatsa comes first, because that's todir, so he says, according to that, could be, he says, according to that, it could be that you would make the burn of fascia first, because that's also todir, in other words, person usually makes more burn, more times a day, more burn of fersions, than al-amihia, right, more times a day burn of fersions than brokha aquarina and shellish, al-amihia might make once a day, twice a day burn of fersions, the person could make ten times a day, right, water, this, that, okay, some time you're thirsty, drinking, you take a drink, burn of fersions, you're making burn of fersions ten, fifteen times a day, sometimes, and brokha aquarina and shellish, al-amihia could be once a day or whatever, so he said, according to this, it could be that the burn of fersions would come first, so it's an interesting thing, but the balamites are, the bottom line is, the beer halacha does bring it down like that, from the supreme agardum, the shamsa, the vera, the main shellish, karidum, the hikash uva, because of the fact that it is Khashiv, again, let's now mix it up, getting back to what we were talking about, originally, do you make the burn of fersions first, or the al-amihia, so the bottom line is, the prima agardum is brought down, like we said, since it's Khashiv, you do make the al-amihia first, I'm prima agardum, shamsa, the vera, the main shellish, karidum, the hikash uva, because it's Khashiv, so it's only the beer, the dishu is clearing back and forth, but balamites are, one should make first the al-amihia, or broch al-azmihi, in shawlach, if they have to make al-Aghirf, they have to make al-Aghir, they have to make al-ha-eid, so they'll pre-weids, whatever the case is, broch al-azmihi, and shawlach, that make first, and then the burn of fersions second. In the case in time that Shiyotah would just happen to mention it, but because he mentions it, but the al-aqalamites are, when it comes to burn the fersions, al-amihia make the al-amihia first, now if somebody mixed it up, they made the burn of fersions first, so okay, so there's what to rely on, the fact that the dishu wants to say it could be that you can make it first anyways, because of this tada shayt, tada shayt, tada shayt, tada shayt, tada shayt. So, but balamites are, one should do, one should make the al-amihia, make the burn of fersions, and shawlach, like we mentioned, somebody forgotten, they came out of the bathroom, in any case, make your ashiyota first, and then make the al-amihia, make the ashiyota first, and then make the burn of fersions, if they forget. Thank you for listening, that's loch and broch al-tuf.