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Jeff Poor Show - Friday 8-16-24
(upbeat music) From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porshow. ♪ I don't think hang down in this way ♪ ♪ No ♪ - Good morning, welcome to the Jeff Porshow, what up in talk, 106.5. Thanks for being with us on this Friday, Friday. It's finally Friday morning. Text slide, you wanna be in touch with the program. All you gotta do is text me 2513430106, any of the feedback is as usual, appreciated. Cut up on today's program here, Todd Stacy in about a half hour. Few things go down to the state government, they're kind of interesting. They wanna change the formula for the way education funding is distributed from the state to the local systems. And I don't really understand the nuance of this, but it was a big, last thing big, but kind of a kerfuffle. Eric Mackey, give us some comments to land yap earlier this week. And it really, what's the disappointment, I guess, and be the way to say it by some members of the Alabama legislature yesterday and their policy committee will change in that formula. I felt that he was not acting in good. Eric Mackey, our state superintendent, was that acting in good faith? And essentially it gets down to this and it sounds like somehow or another, the comments were interpreted that they would take money from the more wealthy systems. So the vestibia, Mount Brook, Madison systems, and they would go to the poor systems. And that adds a lot of people concerned. So such as it is, we'll get into that with Todd. Maybe he can give us a better understanding. Rest in your lover. We're not talking about it. We can get into that with him, but probably more broadly, we'll talk presidential politics. What do you think, so what's going on? Sort of nationally. And then finally, our returning champion, it has been a while since we've talked to him, but a state senator, Chris Elliott, will be with us. So please make sure you stay tuned for that. Once again, text line 251-343-01-06. Sounds like they got the lineup. I know you're all excited for the Democrat National Convention coming up next week. I think Monday you're gonna get Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton. I think on Tuesday, they're gonna give us maybe Bill Clinton. Is he still a thing? Wednesday will be Waltz and Obama. Maybe I'm getting Clinton and Obama mixed up. But of course, Thursday will be the grand coronation of Kamala Harris. She's just, this we gotta talk about. She's throwing out just crazy ideas. They might work, guys. They won't work in practice, but they'll work in getting her votes. $25,000 house credit. Someone has bought a home in the last five years. And I suppose right now home prices are high, but also in addition to high home prices. You have high interest rates, and those two just make home. Affordability out of reach. Let me go through this in the 2000s. Remember? So Harris has an idea for a $25,000 housing credit for new homeowners, which is just insane. But it's, like the tokeville said, we got about 250 years, the clock is ticking here on the end of American democracy. When people figure out they could just evoke themselves freebies. But this is, it's insane economic policy but it's probably pretty sad political policy, or pretty sad politics, not really policy. I think it's gonna work. I think people are gonna be like, oh my gosh, number one, you're gonna have all the young people who want a house, like, she's gonna help me have a house. They have people who are already old houses. Hey, it's gonna make the value of my house go up. But we can talk about inflation and how it's just gonna make the price of homes go up $25,000, so I'm like student loans. Just making the price of, just making the price of a college go up. And up and up and up and up. Like the pace of inflation for higher education is like just way, way outpacing the core inflation. Like, I don't know what we're gonna do. Like, I just, honestly, she wins. I don't think she, these guys have a hard time getting through Congress. Guys, all of the stuff they propose are these election cycles. Probably is a long shot, making it through the House and the Senate. The way things are kind of going right now, the House and the President see are being viewed as jump balls right now. The Senate looks like it's going Republican. God help us if we had to rely on whoever becomes the new Senate Majority Leader to be the firewall between us and like some kind of socialist basket case of a democracy that the American left envisions us being. My fear is Donald Trump will see this. He'll say, well, I'll tell you what, I will, she's got a $25,000 housing credit. I'll get $50,000 housing credit if this gains any steam. But people, I hope, understand, this thing is a free lunch. (mouse clicking) So it's supported stuff. This is what they think will win and maybe it works. Be very disappointing people do go vote because Kamala is offering them a $25,000 housing credit. I guess we are complaining about policy. If there was ever a, the policy argument here, if there was ever us just talking about judging the book by its cover versus, well, we really need to get it to the real issues, the kitchen table issues that matter to the American people. Well, we're finally getting some of that, but it's, once again, guys, it's just like playing to the lowest common denominator kind of stuff. People aren't going to understand. Like you wanna, if you want to jump start the housing market, what do you do? And the thing about the housing marketing is so overheated sometimes. And then you have a Fannie Mae Freddie Mac situation where you make it more affordable. I don't know, maybe you can do something with permitting, but that seems like a state problem or a local problem. Some of the blue states, it's very difficult to get the required permits to build homes. I mean, look at what we're going through here in Alabama. What do you think it's like nationally? Texts like 251340106. Some of the 10 bits here. Axios, last week I missed this, but I guess it was on the road. Axios talking about Doug Jones as a pretty solid pick for A.G. F. Kamala wins. She's, the reason why Doug Jones is because he was in the USA. That's just what I said about him early. He was in the USA and he's likely to get a confirmation from his former colleagues in the United States. He said it even if Republicans control the Senate. Also, the kerfuffle between the nominee, the vice presidential nominee, Tim Walts and Tommy Tuberville, our senior United States Senator. That is something kind of awesome about the left, just how they revile our senior US Senator. I mean, they did this a little bit with Jeff Sessions. They really did it when he became attorney general. But when he was just a US Senator, not so much, not as much as Tuberville, but I'll be calling to that hold he had put on the military confirmations over abortion policy. And eventually he had to give in, but we saw what we did get out of that was the real true colors of our, some of our Republicans that would put like promoting a two star general to a three star general all over the life of a human being, that the VA was going to perform these procedures, as they're called by the American left. But that's made Tommy Tuberville sort of a, a national figure. Ah, what else we got here? Trust press conference yesterday, just kind of a really slamming Kimola Harris. We're told that he's not message disciplined enough by the smart people who are like, I don't know how they've been playing this game, but for the last nine years, it's like all of a sudden they expect Donald Trump to become Mitt Romney because that was such a wedding formula. He doesn't need to criticize other Republicans. It's just not nice. And it might turn away a voter in Georgia or two. Like if you're voting for Kamala Harris or not voting at all, because Donald Trump said some mean things. He used to be saying people who would complain about this mean tweets, he doesn't tweet anymore. It puts out these true socials on a website, no one reads. But when it was the tweets, that's, I just, I don't like this president. And then they go to the gas pump and you're paying the four dollars a gallon or whatever. Does that, well, you don't have, at least you have my president with message discipline now. He doesn't even know what, I mean, he doesn't even have a message. His head's so far up into clouds. So we hear these people do that. I just, it makes my hair hurt. Then we, we, we are going to critique Trump for that. Uh, I didn't hear my, uh, my friends, my colleagues on a mobile mornings, they went, uh, they went harder to the red pill with the, uh, the gain of function. Research and, uh, and, uh, the still, uh, the funding, perhaps going to these eco health alliance type entities that did this research. Right after I heard the, uh, they, uh, cremated the, uh, the, uh, tip to the assassin or the assassin who attempted to take out Donald Trump. But I just like hearing that. And you think that there's such a distrust of our government right now. I wonder how far down that goes. So this gets back to this point. Government comes and I can get your door $25,000 housing credit. But how many people are going to be like, okay, but you're going to make me have green house gas limiting shutters or something. I don't know. Like you're going to social engineer everything. Cause if you, if you take a housing credit from the federal government, you just got to be subdue gooder who is going to work in an amendment or something to really like tell you how you're going to live your life. They're going to figure out ways to make you live. You like to make society better, but you get more into that. I got a stack of stuff here. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six is the text line. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff four show. What if I'm talking about those six, five. Make a little love and a little turn of love in on a mason, dixon. It's my life. Oh, so right. My big sea land. More, much more than this. I did it my way. Yes, there are times I'm sure you knew when I bit off more than I could choose. Welcome back to the Jeff before showed up and talk with those six, five. Thank you for staying with us on this Friday morning. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. Please keep the text coming. We do appreciate it. Oh, see what we got here. Jeff, they're already a Robin already, Robin, the school budgets. It's called equity funding. Yeah, but they want to, I don't, they want to change the, they really do want to change the formula. I don't know. I'm, I'm kind of to the point I had to hell with it. I'll just send my kid to private school. I, I, they're just people pay higher property taxes and say, says, well, we, we need to give a little more to those who'll have a little dirt digger. I got an idea. Trump needs to say he will do away with land taxes for land ownership. I don't think we'll ever get rid of property taxes. Well, there's probably a lot of people in Alabama that would be like, hell yeah. Uh, Jerry, any elected senator who would vote to confirm Jones should be AG should be identified as a person who needs to be defeated in a primary. But Jerry, I mean, he got a, you got to give him somebody to run the cabinet. I look at Barrett Garland and how he was like, have this warm and fuzzy. Sort of a guy. I don't know, it just just was victim of an election cycle. Now he's sort of an arch villain. Then about time for Doug Jones to be an arch villain. I try to give him, I mean, guys, you heard it early in the infancy of this show in Mobile, but even in Huntsville, trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. I was like, look, he's just wrong, but he wants, really does want, wants best for Alabama. And then he gets beat by Tuberville and he just, he becomes this just shameless partisan hack. This is crazy things. And he kind of had to wonder like, did he believe that all along? Like what's the real Doug Jones here? Doug Jones is playing for cable TV. Are the Doug Jones that was our US Senator. Michael and Mobile Biden best get busy. He has four months left to cure cancer like he promised. Well, I went home on breath there, Mike. Jim free stuff from the government's always had strings attached. I, that's what I'm saying. Like all these things that have happened where there should be distrust in our government. And then here they are, or here they are potentially offering you this handout to, to, to buy a home, to build a home, whatever it is. When you build your home, they are going to social engineer to hell out of it. And when that $25 is spent, you'll be like a grand or so for a down payment. And everybody's just going to jack up the prices of homes anyway. Here's a question for you guys. Does anybody care this much about Matthew Perry? So I look up at my TV monitors in the Fair Hope Bureau here. And I see Matthew Perry, Matthew Perry, Matthew Perry. And I, I just, it's a tragedy. And he died already. They sure have spent a lot of time on the investigation here. Jeff, what seems to be called out for his testing endorsement of Hitler and anti-Semitism, by virtue of connection to that. A mob in Minnesota who praised Hitler, our country has been a turn upside down and no one will recognize it or care. Fired off public schools should be considered child abuse. There's some good public schools. I'm kind of coming around to some people who are just very anti-public schools, anti, but like, look, I say this all the time. Like we made the deal. We decided long, long ago that everybody ought to be entitled to some level of education in this country. And that's where the whole idea of public schools. I mean, for society to operate, for people to perform certain functions, uh, jobs, whatever it may be, you got to have some level of education. So it's just the way it is. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. Let's get a break in here. We'll be right back. This is FIT Talk. One of six, five. Oh, I don't even know. And awful is coming over the phone. Oh, the rope in life. Well, he never got a kiss. Oh, the library. Don't know what he missed. Is it anyone that he's faced to the red who lied to that portal to have a good time? Welcome back to the Jup. Poor show. What if I'm talking one of six, five? That you're sticking around with us on this Friday morning. You'd be touching the show. All you got to do is text me. Text line is two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. Rusty Glover joined us in about an hour. And then we'll hear from our returning champion. State Senator Chris Elliott. So please stay tuned for them joining us now. We do this on Friday. It's been a while, but always a pleasure to talk to Todd Stacey. Alabama Daily News and a capital journal. Todd, good morning, are you? I'm great. Yeah, how are you doing? Well, well, thanks for coming on. We'll start here. And I kind of got the one. And I haven't really been keeping up with this, but a little action yesterday in Montgomery with they want to reform. I guess would be the word the what would the formula for? Education funding in Alabama. That the formula they have now was engineered in like the 1990s or something. And they want to update it. Like, can you kind of walk us through what the gripe is here? Yeah, and you could really say that the funding formula, it was it was kind of updated in the 90s, but it's based off of really the 1930s. So this is we exist off of pretty antiquated funding model in terms of the state, how the state goes about funding schools. Of course, a lot of funding happens from the local level. Everybody knows that. And so what they want to do is what they're exploring is a new funding model that takes into account the differences in different districts. Some schools have more special needs kids. Some schools have more English language learners. That's a big problem at the North Alabama. Those things cost more money and some school districts have more kids in poverty, things like that, that we know that it costs more money. So right now we basically fund schools by a head count. You have X number of students. This is the foundation model that you get from the state. So they're exploring ways to say, okay, if you're if your school system based on whatever your student population is, should we, you know, kind of wait things differently and then fund it that way. And so a lot of folks in rural districts are excited about this and want to see that happen, but it's, you know, it's not going to happen overnight. Obviously it's a lot of discussion and it's not like it's going to raise taxes or anything. It's just a different way to distribute money. Well, what was the, the grant from Danny Garrett, I guess, was in the hearing yesterday that the superintendent, Eric Mackie had made some comments. I think the land yap, but it was this, I guess the sort of this, the suggestion that you would take money from the local districts and move it down. I mean, what was, what was the beef there? Well, yeah, what, what state superintendent Eric Mackie said in a meeting, I guess it was reported by laying out, it was some kind of like webinar kind of thing, but he incorrectly said that to do this, it's going to take basically raising $2 billion in taxes somehow. That's not correct. And so, Danny Garrett, the chairman of the House Education Ways and Inks Committee really took issue with that because, well, number one, he knows it's not true, but number two, he, he was really getting it. Mackie, you know, why are you trying to kind of throw this idea under the bus? Well, you know, why aren't you on board with this? This is something that a lot of, you know, a lot of people in the education community want because it's a good idea. Why aren't you on board? Which was an interesting development. It really was because, I mean, from the start, it was clear that Garrett was not happy with how Mackie just had been kind of pooping the plan or at least just the idea of the plan. So that was, that was news worthy to us, for sure. Well, I, I, I watched a little bit of it and it, did it come out of left field? I mean, I, I just, does it, do you think that that's kind of now kind of in the rearview mirror or is this something that's going to be that they're not going to look at Mackie as a trustworthy broker? I don't think it's going to be a big deal. I think, first of all, it's not like Mackie went out and gave a speech to the Rotary Club. This is a, you know, a webinar that was not supposed to be public. And so I think we probably wouldn't do that. So no, I, I think they're moving forward with it. And it, look at the legislature wants to do something. The sixth superintendent is just going to have to go along with it. And so, you know, but they need to be partners. And I think Garrett was frustrated that, you know, before they even had had discussions about it, he was already out there kind of. Um, you know, poo-pooing the idea. So I understand the frustration. Um, I do think this is something the state is going to do. It's, it's not going to be overnight. It's not going to be easy. But when I talk to lawmakers, especially from rural districts, they understand like, yeah, we've got to, we can't keep funding schools the same way that we did in the 1930s. Um, and Tennessee was the most recent state that changed the way they, their, their funding model were kind of playing off their examples. Um, but yeah, a little bit of drama between the education budget chairman and the state superintendent of education. I don't think it'll be lasting. I think being here at May's point. And, um, I think that'll be the, the end of it. Well, what, I mean, what do the, the haves versus the haves, what do the haves say? I mean, like, what do you, I mean, you mentioned the rural districts, like, what about the suburbs that do have adequate funding and, and then they're being going to be told, well, we're going to, we're going to adjust the formula that's probably going to result in a reduction of, uh, well, whatever you're getting from the state right now. I don't think that's the case at all. I don't think that now I don't think that's the case at all. Um, so I don't think, you know, I'm, I'm from a suburban place myself. And, you know, they're excited about that too. So, uh, I don't think that's the case, but again, I'm, I'm not the, I'm not the one riding the plan, but, um, well, I mean, I probably have, I get it. I mean, and they, they want the, the places where the need is to move the money there, but somebody's going to be a net loser here, right? I don't think so. I really don't, but how do you do that? You should probably have Denny Garrett on or Arthur Orr for some money who's involved in writing that. All right. Uh, well, we'll, we'll take that out of your advice. We're joined by Todd Stacey Alabama daily news here on the program. Uh, Todd, uh, you were down at BCA last weekend. What, what, uh, what should we take away from that? Yeah, I think it was their biggest conference they've ever had down at point clear. Um, you know, we were recorded a capital journal episode from there at the granted, that's going to air tonight. Um, you know, they're, they announced this big initiative to, um, kind of beef up their political efforts. You just happens, I mean, that's why BCA exists, right? Is to get involved in supporting pro business candidates and everything. It's just that, um, so there's nothing new. Um, but it looks like they want to kind of beef up those efforts, raise a lot of money, support for business candidates, but the, the definition of pro business has evolved in recent years. I think, you know, we can agree on that. And, um, so I'm curious to know like, what is that definition? What policies, what bills, you know, qualifies as pro business? What, um, proposals in the legislature of the next couple of years are going to be pushed, you know, and, and kind of, um, whipped, um, maybe, or at least watched by the BCA. So that's an interesting development. They said they had a goal of $4 million to spread around to different legislative races. That's a lot of money. They said they're halfway there, uh, to, to raising it. So that's definitely something to watch. Um, but again, that's, that's, that's news because it's, it's not news that BCA is going to be involved in politics. That's why they exist. It's news that they were out front and saying, we want to do this. We want to make sure that we want to sit down the marker. Now two years out saying we're going to be aggressively supporting pro business candidates and we're going to be walking closely those two, you know, to make sure that our candidates are truly pro business. And so we'll, we'll see how that develops. Have you seen, uh, now that we have Senator Scofield kind of running that political arm, I mean, is it, you do, are you sort of going to see us as his fingerprints on what's going on there? Well, I think on that issue, absolutely. Um, he understands obviously political fundraising, political campaigns and things like that. Um, so yeah, I think his fingerprints are absolutely on that. Um, and then he was the one that made the announcement. All right. You, it was him and not the, you know, CEO. I mean, a Duncan who, you know, came and made the announcement. So yeah, I definitely think, um, Clay Scofield's influences absolutely tied into all of that, which is a good thing. I mean, there's a reason why BCA hired. Clay Scofield to, you know, to be the vice president. He's got political chops. You need some more to experience the knowledge, you know, not just theoretical, but you know, he's been through campaigns. He's raised money before. I think that experience really matters. Um, and it's probably going to serve the BCA pretty well. Well, they, when they talk about pro business and I kind of mind, I guess, was there like a working definition there? Are they still working on this? Like really what that is because my understanding was there was maybe some, some policy things that they still got to iron out coming out of last weekend. Well, that's my big question is, you know, what, what qualifies as pro business? Um, I think that definition has changed over the years. You know, Mary and I had the podcast today talking about like, you know, go back to 2010 when the Republicans took over the legislature. A lot of those Republicans weren't, weren't supported by BCA because nobody felt they could win basically. Then go to 2014, the next cycle BCA was tremendously involved in trying to protect a lot of those folks because AEA got super involved and they tried to kind of make a comeback and had some like AEA Republicans. Uh, it was kind of a different AEA back then. Um, so yeah, the definition of pro business is going to matter quite a bit. And you know, the Republican party has changed quite a bit. There's a lot more populism now. Right. There's a lot more anti corporate type rhetoric and feelings and at least nationally in the Republican party. I don't think that's manifested in a serious way in Alabama yet. But maybe that's what they're trying to get ahead of is the anti corporate anti business kind of kind of stuff. But yeah, the specifics are unknown, but I think that's an important question. What qualifies as pro business? Because it can't just be the, you know, the working for Alabama plan that passes last time, you know, that's terrific. And it was basically unanimous. There might have been a couple of other somewhere that everybody's for that. So I'm curious about the policy, like, what are going to be the policy? Is it going to be this tort reform thing? That could be huge, you know, um, that's a big issue. That's going to be it, if it comes to a vote, maybe a tough vote and if the business community is truly united behind it, then that could be a powerful force. Um, but again, nothing specific at this point. I think they just wanted to lay down the marker to say, look, we're going to be aggressive and, you know, details to come. And the 26 cycle, I mean, I don't know what that looks like, but I mean, how much different will it be from the 22 cycle? I mean, maybe that governor's races could be interesting. Maybe not just depending on how things go, I guess, coming in November. But like how many of these legislative seats do we think are going to be up for grabs legitimately? Or how many comments are going to be vulnerable enough? Because my perception of this is, it's pretty hard to unseat an incumbent. Then we saw like Prancey get beat in Lawrence County, but in the Tommy Hanes and a few others, but you don't really see that a whole lot in the entire 140 member body of the Alabama legislature. Yeah, it's too early to really to know exactly who's going to run. Um, I think you're going to see some retirements, both in the house and the Senate, and so that'll open up some seats. Uh, that's obviously really important. Remember in the Senate, just a couple of seats changes everything. Right, think about the gambling bill. That's not necessarily that's a business issue, but it's an issue. You know, that bill with the makeup of the Senate before the last election, that bill clears with, you know, plenty of room to spare. But because of, because of the way the Senate changed, because of some open seats and things like that, it failed. So just a couple of seats in the Senate can really make a huge difference. And I think, you know, take the gambling issue off the table, but take it, maybe it's to work for them. Maybe it's another business issue or any issue. They, I think BCA and others understand that. And so if there is an open seat or two or three, they're going to fight pretty seriously to, to make sure their influence is known. Todd, we got kind of short here, but before I let you go, uh, tell folks number one, how to sign up for your newsletter and number two, which got on capital journal, you can sign up right there on the homepage, put your name and your email and you'll be on the list. And yes, capital journal, as I mentioned, we recorded capital journal from the Grand Hotel right there and point clear. Um, and so we'll have Elena Duncan, John Turner, uh, CEO of Regents, Senator Katie Brit, uh, lieutenant governor, will Ainsworth, House Speaker Nathaniel Ed butter, um, incident president for Tim Gregory. So a full slate of guests on capital journal right there from Baldwin County. So please tune in tonight. Capital journal on APT. Todd Stacey Liz Joe, but Todd, thanks for coming on. All right. Yeah, be good. All right. We're gonna get a break here. We'll be right back. This is effing talk. One, oh, six, five, boy, cause I'm going back down the band. Jackson, and I'll be dancing on the pony king, let me drown. How much is called it? How would your tail look between your legs? Yeah, I'm going to Jackson. Well, back to the jumpboard showed up and talk with those six five. Thanks for sticking with us on this Friday morning. Text slide, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, text me, text me. Text me. That's the best way to get in touch with the program. We have much text, which will spread them out over the next couple of segments here. Uh, let's start on. I named Dexter. We decided a lot of stuff years ago that doesn't don't mean we can't change schools. There's a better way. Well, I just, and then I, I didn't like the way all my buddy, Todd, say she handled it. But like, if you're going to take away from, if you got a pot of money, a finite amount of resources, it could change the formula so that the more needy schools get more of that money or whatever those resources are, somebody's going to be the debt loser here. And that just has to be acknowledged. I mean, it's kind of an ugly discussion to have about money and, you know, there's something vulgar about it, but we have to at least acknowledge this. There's going to be losers that they changed the formula. So say, I don't think that's the case at all. I don't think is accurate. I don't see how it can be. But that seems to be they're taking money from local systems to, and then maybe we should have Danny Garrett on. Well, in fact, I will text him here in a minute during the break and try to schedule something, but this is that am I wrong? Am I crazy to think if we're going to change this formula, which is based on per student, everybody gets a equal share of the money based on how many students you have in your school system. If you change it to help out other than the more needy schools, the more impoverished school systems, well, then somebody is not going to get as much dirt nigger come on, it's going to give you 25,000 dollars. We cannot have a guest stove or heater in your home and can't owe a firearm. If you get that money, don't fall for it. People more government control less freedom and liberty. Yeah, you're not going to be able to have a guest stove or I can be able to probably limit the number of like, like how much you can use your AC, your thermostats going to be stuck on like 82 in the summer at like 65 in the winter. You don't have all these requirements, probably. Calls are helping the environment when there's no like real proof that this is very marginalia, the what it does for the what it does for the, um, the threat of anthropogenic climate change and a texture. I do believe Democrats will lose in the ninth inning. But with all the issues, border inflation, wars, Democrats are kicking Republicans ass because there should not even be a race, but there is. But, but like once you don't understand that they've text her, like, you're a rational human being. There are a lot of irrational emotional types out there who are going to vote based on nothing they're seeing before their eyes, but how they feel. I'll be right back. This is the jet war show at F&T talk, 106 five. ♪ A smile at smile ♪ ♪ And they go all by defense it ♪ ♪ Just leave it up to you and get it in ♪ From Buck's pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between. An insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porsche show. ♪ I don't think Hank done it this way ♪ ♪ No, no, no, no ♪ Welcome back to the Jeff Porsche show on F&T talk, 106 five. Thanks for being with us on this Friday, Friday, it's finally Friday morning. Text line, I'm going to be in touch with the show two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. Rusty Glover coming up here in about 30 minutes looking forward to that discussion. So please stay tuned for that. Let's go. I'm going to get through these texts here in short order. I, well, I can't. Gene, Gene is the chairwoman or man, I'm not sure, of the Jeff Porsche show listeners for Kamala. Maybe that's the title here for Kamala Harris or for Harris. Well, whatever it is that they, they call them. Gene writes this as of August 1st, the US daily output is close to 22 million barrels a day, 13% increase over the previous year. Production has not decreased. How can Trump cut prices of oil in half, but he can? I think there's a lot of things you could do. I mean, maybe with, you can increase production even more. I think you can also, because the way this works, I'm not an expert on oil markets here. But a lot of these things, these oil companies will do is that they, they build it for structure and they bring online refineries, that's even a thing anymore, are drill wells based upon the political leadership, because they think you're going to have a president who is going to try to institute some kind of electric vehicle policy and mandate them or whatever, then they will not, they will not raise their production. They will not build for the future. But Gene, only thing I would tell you is this, oil prices were a lot lower with Trumpless president, even, even pre-COVID. What's called oil prices to go up more than anything, I think has been the inflation, the oil being pegged to the dollar and the dollar losing its value. It's not a stable currency like it was 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago. But there is just sort of an anti-oil production sentiment in this Biden administration. You can't deny it. A day, an increase over the previous year, 30% increase over the previous year, but what is the daily production increase since Trumpless president? Gene, I think there's been an actual decrease since Biden became president. Roger, another move to take from the rich and get to the poor. Get him off, he obviously doesn't understand what he's talking about. How are you going to give money to some districts and not take away from others without increasing the money? And this is when I sit all on this from Mike. I wonder how someone becomes a daily Garrett fanboy and stays relevant. Don't you think it needs to be about the needs of the student, not just a head count? How do you determine that need? Are we to assume that all students have different needs because of your zip code that you should you're entitled to more state money? The reason some of these school systems flourish is because the people in them pay more in taxes because they want the best opportunities for their children. So they're like, OK, get to state money, but we're going to kick in some extra because we want a better school. And now you're going to tell me that because of this personal responsibility, this responsibility undertaken by that community that they're going to get less money doesn't seem right. This is where these populism movements start when you state people who are trying to do the right thing. Well, we're going to penalize you and we're going to reward these communities who elect the same dirty rotten leadership in their school system time after time after time at your time. And I look at the Montgomery Public Schools, Birmingham, Jersey County, Bessemer. You look at the school systems that aren't functioning real well. And and this a lot of it's just because there's a lack of resources. And you're going to tell them that we're going to we're going to withhold money from Ball and County because there is need at Wilcox County or wherever. This is how this works. And no one will say, I don't think anybody wants to say that. And I think what Matthew will say, well, if you want to do that, you're going to need more money in the system or more economic growth. If you don't want to take money from other systems. So I don't understand this. Like, maybe Mackey was right. But he said that. I mean, surely there's somebody out there who understands it's much better than I do. All right. This came up with my radar was because there was a back and forth between Chairman Garrett and Eric Mackey at that there was like, they've been doing it. They've been convening this joint committee. So Arthur or Danny Garrett, and they have been hearing from experts from different parts, different states, whatever to talk about changing this formula, which I was like, you know, just assume, okay, you got this amount of students here's this for the state. And you would assume that there's more special needs are there more. I don't know, whatever it may be. Then we will, they adjust accordingly. But it's going to be what I think they want to do is base it on performance or something like that. And if you're underperforming, well, you're going to be rewarded with more money. I don't know. Sean says the $25,000 tax credit. It'll be a full government controlled smart home. You're going to shut off Fox News in your home. No, you can't listen to the Jet Force show. On a text, you know, you're right. Todd Stacey made my heart hurt when he said that by reference to change in schools is about public schools. We made that decision longer go, but we got to find a way to change it. It's not working. Jeff, you need to get cereal, threadgill on your show and barbecue his ass over waste and management as a head of the state's largest system. He should be able to give answers publicly, not high as he's done. I wish I knew what you were referring to there. Monty, I'm in the opinion that Democrats don't care about how much all things increase the price, the higher the price, the more tax revenue generated. Therefore, more money is at hand to spend on their agenda. I despise any and all Democrats want a bunch of narcissistic idiots and those that rule them know that and play to it. Maybe I was thinking about that. Like if you make the, if you start handing out $25,000 house credits, well, then I'm thinking about my house and my situation, which my Lord, my taxes have gone up significantly since I bought this house three years ago, taxes in insurance. And then it was just like significant higher, significantly higher house payment, mortgage payment. Well, all of a sudden, my houses were $25,000 or more. And I mean, I'm glad there's a cap, but ultimately, but I had to pay more in taxes because Kamala wants to give out free housing to people. I just, and furthermore, $25,000 and I get your down payment, I get your foot in the door. Is there any reason to believe that these houses aren't going to, are they, are they going to be able, are people going to be able to make the payments on these houses? Did we, did we have this problem when they were just kind of signing off on loans and they had these mortgage backed securities? Gas at Chevron was $1.64 when Trump left office. Um, it happens on the Easter shore school districts will be bored. You mean, like, I am surprised there is not a Spanish for Daphne and Faroe school system yet, by the way, like orange beach of Gulf Shores. And reference to schools is called socialism. Well, we're going to lay it out for us. Uh, LV, Alabama has been to bottom of the school list since the United States. I got out of high school in 1972. Nothing's changed. Well, a couple of things there. I'm not saying there any way near the top, but let's, let's consider number one, the metrics. And number two, there are some good school systems. There's some really lousy bad ones. But we let people, and probably to our detriment, this state determined their own, their own outcomes. And just for what you have, you have underperforming schools, get places like, like I said, Bessemer, Alabama that elect their own school officials. And just aren't doing a very good job. Pat, solo production is actually up at all time. Hi, Rachel. Just looking today. U. S. E. A. Hopefully 500 miles a month extra. I wonder how much of that is because of the wars going on around the globe. I name texture kids. I use books anymore to companies give away or deep discount for computers. What do they actually need money for? They do need money to pay teachers. You need money to just run the air conditioner at the school. The books, you need money for things. I'm going to deny that. I want to make sure they have, you know, their materials, but like, I don't know how many of you have kids in the public school system where you got to like they give you a list of stuff to have on the first day. It's probably not that far behind where until we have, until we have schools. We have to go buy your own books. Dirt digger, money is not the problem. Getting parents involved in children, education, so money problem never works. Yeah, we never talk about that. Do we dirt digger? Then there's a cultural problem in tweaking the formula for how much money school systems get. Is that supposed to, I mean, well, we really have a system that was from the 1930s. Well, maybe I just don't have a nuanced enough understanding and I hope to have that nuanced understanding. But we just never had that discussion about what's going on in the culture. There's plenty of like these PSAs telling you to be a dad, telling you to make sure your kids are fed. But then you like talk about it and it's like, how dare you shame these poor people? I named Techster under former schools. Does not always me. Schools are bad. A lot of these under former schools cannot even get the kids in the door. I don't know what you were trying to say there, but we appreciate the feedback. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, we'll be right back. This is a Jeff Horst show, what I've been talking about. One, zero, six, five. My son is all left up to you. And I can't get to sleep at night, barking lots all out in bright days. He hasn't worked in 20 years. Probably never made a single person cold, but I can't say the same for me. I've done it many times. Somebody take me home through those. Welcome back to the Jeff Horst show. Let's have a talk. One, zero, six, five. They just stick it around on this Friday morning. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, 10, right. If every school board had a beach to claim is their own, they would have all the money. They need AKA orange beach and girls shores. Well, no, I just, I don't think it's necessarily true. Throwing money at schools is like throwing it at global warming, and it finally Pat sends me a detailed analysis of oil production. A couple of JPEGs there. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, you want me to touch with the program. Please do so. Oh, big news guys today. Camila Harris will pitch her economic vision to the nation. I see about this. This is an important point. And I go back and forth on it on this show. Kamala Kamala pronunciation of her name. There's a big like panel discussion on CNN last night. Nancy May, Michael Eric Dyson, who apparently gives speeches to the Montgomery public schools. But they got in the back and forth and he called her racist, Mace, because she wasn't saying Camila, right, or Kamala, right, whatever it is. That's racist. And she was kind of like, I'll call her whatever I want. You're a misogynist, or what I know, it was just a kind of a silly cable news thing. But this is the point. Most Americans don't even know the real pronunciation of her name. Camila or Kamala, I bet if you asked a lot of them would probably say Kamala. But if you can't even pronounce her name, Ryan, why makes them think they're going to vote for her? Why makes them think that she is like, that's why I like this whole like controversy about how you pronounce her name. It's curious to me because, I mean, we, how did it take us to get caught up on Barack Obama? This is just straight up familiarity politics. I don't think about these candidates for four or whatever, and being able to say Camila or Kamala. Anyway, just something to think about. Ah, name text, your parts of Prichard go to parts of Mobile. 20% of kids are even in schools, and these are kids who are in first to sixth grade. A lot of our schools that are feeling are because they cannot get kids in the doors. Some are failing because some are tended in corruption. Failing schools are failing because the kids' home life is in so many circumstances, some more money from schools without improving the school. Yeah, I get that the truancy in a lot of school systems is such a problem where they, they, you had public officials threatening to arrest the parents. There is a cultural problem that we will not acknowledge, and you can't mandate the government can't fix everything. There's a cultural decline in America. There's a cultural decline in Alabama. And it's just a, this, a subject that you're going to trust these bureaucrats to fix it. And we're not allowed, I mean, like that, that's where this is laid for conservatives. It's just mind-numbing, right? Especially cultural conservatives, Kamala is pronounced Kamala for peacock. Thank you for that. But the point is like, a lot of people don't know that. They don't know the proper way to and now to pronounce her name. And this is what percentage of the public do you think says it properly, peacock? And thus, if you can't say the name right, then you're going to expect these voters to the vote right? 250-3430106. Excellent point on name texture. I will get to that on the other side. This is The Jet Por Show at Epip Talk, 106.5. [Music] Welcome back to The Jet Por Show at Epip Talk, 106.5. They're sticking around on this Friday morning, 2513430106. You need to be a touch for the show. All you got to do is text me. There's one text I get to here in the next segment. I think it's important text, but as you can see, stay tuned for that. Joining us now, a blast in the past. Well, it's been a long time. It's just pre-session. So, here we are. I have not asked you to be. It's probably my fault. Six months now. But former State Senator Rusty Glover making time for us. Always a pleasure. Senator, good morning. How you been? Just fine. Great to be on the program, Jeff. Hey, thanks for making time for us. Well, you and I are talking about this off air. I've been talking about it a lot this morning, and Todd Stacey, I don't know what to do with that. There was a joint committee hearing yesterday in Montgomery, and they were talking about school funding. The claim is this. We have this outdated formula from the 1930s, and then they tried to adjust it in the 90s, but we're paying out from the state money per pupil, per head, or whatever to these systems, and that is not the best use of the money. We need to update our formula. What I don't understand is, okay, but they claim you're not going to take any money from these systems. What do you think is this idea of equity funding? Is there a real appetite for that in Alabama? Well, I'll assure you, it's not a big appetite in Ball and County, because a good reason while they're increasing property taxes from time to time is because they're losing so much money to other counties. You can understand to a certain extent, those from Monroe, and this Gambia, and Washington, Clark County, those residents, they go down and stay in the condos, spend money in the residence, okay, understand a little bit of that. But any more equity funding releases of Ball and County money to other counties, or Mobile County, to the point where they would have to have a property tax to raise money to keep up with current expenses would be ridiculous. I can understand any kind of a pushback towards a new formula which would actually take money away, and absolutely it would take more money away from some of these schools that the people have invested through their property taxes and built programs and school buildings and systems that something they're proud of. That's what the part I didn't understand was like, okay, we got this pot of money and there are systems that have more need, which we're going to determine whatever the definition of need is, but they need to get more money out of this pot. Well, there has to be a loser somewhere, and no one could really explain that to me. Well, at least I haven't asked enough, I guess. But I mean, that's just how this works, right? Right, and a lot of times, a lot of us get the picture that they're school systems where they're where the schools, the buildings are just about to collapse, they're in such poor condition, and that's not really the case. I mean, there was one particular county in West Alabama that had some schools that are not in that greatest shape, probably in better shape than the schools that I went to in Mobile County in the 70s and 80s, but they're not bad. Most of the schools, the high schools I go to, five, six, seven, eight schools, they're immaculate. I mean, they're just, they're in incredible shape, and this is all over. Some of these, some of these counties you think that are poor counties, the schools are in great shape. I mean, I'm going to every middle school and high school in the state, and I've visited each one of them over the last five years, and I'll assure you, they're in good shape, and many of them are, they're so much in much better shape than, you know, capital building plans, the needs are not, there may be some in some places, but they're not as big as what people think, and to have sympathy and say we need to take money from Baldwin County and Mobile County, and send it up to some of these poor counties, because their buildings are falling apart. That's just not the case. Well, I just, I don't, I guess there's, maybe there's some things they can do in the margins, if you have more special needs students or whatever, but even then, I mean, you still got to take from the rich and give to the poor, which is sort of, I mean, where this whole, no, I used the term rich very loosely, their definition of rich versus what really rich means, but you got to take from the haves and get to the have-nots. That's just, that's just let out social resources. And another thing too, Jeff, a lot of these schools in the rural areas, especially in the black belt, they are losing population like you wouldn't believe. There are some schools that I've gone to that maybe a third of the buildings occupied, or some of them even less than that, because people have moved out of those counties into other places, and are we, are we sending money to the schools that are losing population and disproportionate measure? I don't know, but it's, you know, the more I hear about this, it's more distressing because, you know, it's going to be Mobile County as well as Ball and County that loses money to this equity funding problem. Well, I think it's like, there was a dust stuff, and you are talking about this, Eric Mackie had given some comments of some kind of webinar or whatever, he got picked up by our buddies at Land Yap. Say, look, you want to change this formula, that's great, but if you're not going to take money from other districts, then you've got to have additional revenue either from economic growth or from a $2 billion tax increase. That's how you make this work. And it was sort of a freak out from Chairman Garrett, like that's not true at all. Why would you say that? Why would you say that publicly? And then again, you know, he, Mackie sort of recanted or whatever, but like me looking at it, like maybe he's not wrong. Like if you want to do more for the have-nots and you don't want these local system, these like Auburn or Vestavia or Ballway County or Mount Brook or whatever, not to get less money, then then you would have to find more money somewhere else. And with the growth of the education trust fund budget each and every year to this level of, I think it's probably close to $9 billion, $9 billion. The money certainly has been there over the last few years. I mean, increase in taxes or property taxes would be unbelievable with the growth in the economy and the growth of the money coming into the ETF as it has been the last three or four years especially. Well, I just, it comes down to this to me and I mean, I don't have a child in the public schools yet, but like I pay significantly higher property taxes and I want, you know, this is why we made this decision. My wife and I because we want the best for our children and because we have taken this responsibility because we have saved and tried to find the right place. No, you have enough, we're going to get to these people who need more, just seems like such a ill-conceived idea. Yeah, yeah, I just can't imagine. I remember one person in particular was Representative Randy Davis and he would fill me in because he was with the school system in Mobile and Ballant County and he would fill me in on some of the equity funding issues in the frustration that folks in Ballant County were going through and so I got a better understanding of that and I can appreciate the frustration of those especially in Ballant County that have tax increase after tax increase property tax and then to see more of their money go somewhere else, I can think it could be extremely frustrating. Joy, my former C. Sitter Rusty Glover, always a pleasure. Senator, something else you're talking about, I don't know how much you keep up with the ongoing of the Business Council of Alabama but they had their big gathering and point clear last week. The 2026 election cycle, they've, Senator Schofield gave a very aggressive speech saying, look, we're going to really go, we're really going to go hard here, you better be pro business. Does the BCA, they seem to have lost some of their swagger over the years, I don't know but are they trying to like, do you see them as trying to come back and restore some of the lost worry of the, I think, 10 years ago or so? Well, you know, Tuesday, or Wednesday, when you got back, you mentioned that and that was the first I'd heard because of course I didn't go to the BCA conference but you know, Clay Schofield sat right in front of me in the Senate and it just sounded out of character for him to be making comments in a more of a threatening way which some of the, I talked to one House member from the mobile area day before yesterday and that's the way they took it and yeah, it is interesting that they're going to get more involved in campaigns and of course, I've taken interest in that because I'm very strongly, strongly looking to be a part of that. I would love to get back into the legislature and so it's something that sports my interest that they're going to be involved in campaigns to that extent but he, you know, I don't, you know, for a while, what I've heard is kind of vague issues. What do you mean? Is it the mandatory back thing? Is that going to be an issue that you people are supposed to turn away from the people and go with what the lobbyists are telling them to do? I mean, what's involved here? What issues is he talking about? But, you know, I don't know, you know, not being there, I'm kind of in the dark on exactly what was there but I know the reactions were not taken very well. Well, it was very aggressive. Now, look, I'm based in all of my response or what I was, a Yellow Hammer report and I've talked to a few lawmakers who weren't there and then they're a little perturbed by this as well. But, Sarah, first of all, we go any further. I mean, was that an official announcement of a... No, it was not... I would have to, I would have to go through paperwork and all this kind of stuff and get campaign stuff together for the Secretary of State's office, whatever's involved in that, I don't really actually remember but I'm definitely, I'm definitely looking forward to doing that. That's the, you know, the campaign would not officially start for another 10 months but I'm anxious to get back there and do the work. I mean, I'll be honest, I'll be honest with you and the listeners. I mean, I ran for a state auditor primarily to get back into action to be of help, to be of public servant and, of course, being able to spend 18 to 1, that's in my chances of doing that, which is fine but I would do, I would serve best where here. That's what I did in the past and I feel more comfortable doing that and I mean, I was able to get over 75% of the votes of the precincts in this area even when I was out, spent 18 to 1 in the previous election, 10 to 1, 11 to 1, so I feel like I would be in a great position to again continue to serve the people in the area but as far as official announcement, it would be several months away. So we've got the Rusty Glover Exploratory Committee here, perhaps or something about that. Yeah, that would be a better way to put it. Yeah, so back to 26 and now Senator Williams is running for a commissioner so that seat is obviously opening but that's correct. I sometimes tell you about this as well. I mean, you know, you typically see a lot of like turnover, there were a few incumbents who got knocked off, like Kelvin Lawrence, Democrat, Charlotte Meadows, I mentioned Tommy Haynes, I mentioned Prawncy Robertson, but out of 140 members, I mean, Tom Watley by one vote, Tom Watley, I don't forget my buddy Tom Watley. What was interesting is in that election in 2022, I had, I had two opponents, Tom Watley had one opponent and I had like four or five hundred more votes in Lee County than he did. Oh, and Lee County about 14 points, but he did well in the Senate and he's missed, I'm sure, but yeah, you're right. There's not very much turnover. Garland Granger defeated Paul Busman in the previous election and that may have been, that may be it. It's just very few turnovers in the Senate, for sure. Well, speaking of that, now I guess the rumor mill has Senator Reid, Greg Reid going on to do something else. And the potential here, we could see a shake up in leadership in the Alabama Senate. I mean, you got to think these discussions, did they pique your interest at all? Oh, yes. Well, as far as myself, I mean, Henry Clay came in as a freshman house member, became Speaker of the House, but you don't go in as a, as a newly elected person, a position like that. Oh, no, no, no. I want to say pique your interest. I didn't mean are you going to run for Pro Tem. I just like, this is, this is, this is some high drama here. I mean, I understand that. Hey, welcome back. No, but I think George Wallace, when he was elected to the house, in his first term, he was trying to get the big speaker of the house and back in 46, I believe. But yeah, yeah, you know, it's, you know, that's a long step away. That's a long step away as far as leadership positions or whatnot. Just getting back up there, be the first step and well, but I guess I need to ask a question like this though, like, you have some, you have some changes going on and I don't know what the governor's race is going to be. I mean, everybody thinks it's probably going to be Ainsworth, but we'll see him. Marshall runs, but like, I think we're talking three years from now. I mean, it could be a totally different landscape, right? In Montgomery. And I don't, I'm not really sure what that would mean, but right now things seem, and then this may be the impetus for Scofield's speech at BCA, could things go in a more populous direction in the future? It could be, it could be, it's just, it's just hard to look, you know, that far in the forward, you know, like you said before, it's just so little change over. I don't know of all with the exception of Senator William's running statewide. I'm not sure I know of too many senators that will be changed. It'll be the same group pretty much in house. I'm not, you know, I don't know how that's going to work, how many of those members are leaving, but I don't see, you know, a lot of changes. Yeah, it's kind of a fascinating thing. I do think it's, I mean, there's, there is some unknowns up ahead that be kind of interesting to watch and it's a lot of unknowns with what's going to happen this November because that's, that's a major change in our lives. If we continue on the same path we've gone through in the last four years, I mean, it would be, I think, I think, I think catastrophic for this country, if, if we were to lose this election. Well, I think this, Senator, we'll wrap it up on this. If Kamala Harris pulls it off and she wins, I need 26. It's just going to be a hardcore, hardcore, very Republican cycle. And you start thinking again, we thought that in the last midterm election. Fair enough, but barring any unforeseen circumstances, no Roe v. Wade being overturned or anything like that. I mean, you look down ballot in Alabama, though, it's going to be very Republican. I mean, if you're like one of these kind of establishment milk toast Republicans, you better be worried about a challenge in a primary. I think that's what they're, they're kind of considering at least. Yeah, and we saw some of this in 2010, a lot of that in 2010, you know, the first midterm elections during the Obama administration. And yes, I mean, that's when the P parties were starting all over the country and communities all over our state. And, and, and, and the candidates were very interested in what the people had to say and the wishes of the people and the uprising of discontent because of what was going on in the country. And it is reflected in the, in the new, in the new legislature. And, and, and I think of what you're alluding to, it could be more turnover than usual, say, in the Senate and Alabama House. So they're going to leave it there. We do appreciate your time. We'll, we will, I do better than six months. We'll get you on sooner. Okay, good to talk to you, Jim. Thank you again. See, former state senator Rusty Glover there, who I think announced his, uh, exploratory committee on this program. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff Porte Show at FM Talk, 106 five. And it probably always will. And on the old town square, under the barbershop hole, they set me up in the chair. The old school was our repair of here. We got the river flats, blind and close, wise and fierce, plenty of snow in the middle of June, we'll get back to the Jeff Porte Show at FM Talk. 106 five. They should be with us on this Friday morning. Coming up in the next hour, our returning champion state senator Chris Elliot, tax light 2513430106. Thanks for staying with us here. I named texture. It is pronounced Kamala Kamala. Ah, camel. It was a joke, Jeff. Sorry, peacock. I can't read your inflection over the text slide. Sam, fat fingers. Did you see way to dump it up and I'll come back here in time. Good morning, Jeff. I don't care how you say your name. You could call her Miss Harris, but she isn't the one to be the first female or woman president of our country. And then did you see the lady head of teachers association speech on TV? She looked like a circus caller. Yeah, I saw that a few weeks ago. Or maybe she has a new she has a new video very prone to these appearances. James, the official troll of the Jeff Porte Show speaks. Jeff, I hope you're going to keep up the same device of this when Trump loses his political pundits like you who single handedly give this election to an unproven Democrat future Republicans will are a valuable lesson from this utter failure as well as you, Jeff, the intellectual dishonesty is booming the Republicans. What would you have me do, James? We should embrace Camilla. Camilla. We should hold hands and sing kumbaya. No politics. We should just all agree. No more divisiveness. I want to live in James land. 2-5-1-5-3-4-3-0-1-0-6. We'll be right back. This is a Jeff Porte Show on F.F. Talk for those 6-5. From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porte Show. Welcome back to the Jeff Porte Show on F.F. Talk 1-0-6-5. Thanks for staying with us on this Friday morning. 2-5-1-3-4-3-0-1-0-6. Thanks for staying with us. We do appreciate the feedback. Jeff, we didn't have problems with Barack Obama's name because he talked to the people and he said his name, so there was no issue. She doesn't speak to us enough to even tell us what her name is and how to pronounce it. We've ever had that discussion, have we? With Kamala? Kamala? Kamala? I've heard it pronounced a bunch of different ways. We're told you're racist. It's like such a cheap attack. The reason I brought this up was I just watched Nancy Mays and Michael Eric Dyson. race provocateur, professor at the Vanderbilt University. It's just like if you don't pronounce her name right, you're a racist. What do we ever have in the town hall meeting about how to pronounce her name? So anyway, you're right. They never did it. They never had the official announcement of Vice President Harris' name, have they? Anyway, we're going to get price controls in a $25,000 house credit. Does that not appeal to you? James, is that divisive? Oh, should we just go along with it? Can we criticize that? James, James, I'm talking to you. Wake up. Can I criticize Kamala Harris for that? Or do I need to say? Very good. Awesome job. In a texture, somebody who received the money will no longer receive as much money. Timo, a Russian delivery exploratory effort, said like a procedure for a product. Hey, hey, Summerdale, Tony, I can't let the politics for the press me today. I'm going to sticks and farther tonight on one of those six fives tab. Thanks, Sean. Sticks and farter. Michael, I'm going to go under James, the troll is really just quids burner account. I'm possibly what can be quin chair. I hate a boat. So I could criticize Donald Trump supporters as much as I want because I hate a boat. That is your license to do what you want to do. Anyway, I forgot to say this coming up on the program here in about a half hour. State Senator Chris Elliott, our returning champion. So you want to stay tuned for that. Once again, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, please text me. Oh, we have James responding. How about getting Trump to run a policy? No one gives a crap about a race or that she's a woman. I find it amazing. Most pundits are saying what most dependents think this is all Trump can offer. You're going to lose. Your criticism is valid. Colorado. That's what I'm calling from the cult leader who continues to fall on it. I don't care. This is this is what you people like James. This is where you totally miss the forest for the trees. I don't care what Donald Trump says or what he attacks are. It doesn't matter. Who's going to be better president? Do you really think she's going to be better for your life, James? The Trump was. You're all into the aesthetics. You're all into the talk. You're all into all these like sort of like very like visible things. And I'm not saying that there you should totally discount them. But you're way too into that. That is not relevant. A lot of what these people say never happens. It really comes down to who's going to like run the government bureaucracy. Who's going to make the decision about what wars and what foreign entanglements we engage in. I mean, that's the kind of thing you need to think about. And you're too worried about Donald Trump saying mean things about Kamala Harris. And you're telling us that we're going to lose because I don't think that matters. It matters on the margins. And maybe you could say, well, marginally these elections are decided on the margins. I don't know. But you act like it's just a big the mean tweets will always go down to show you this is what you get. You just I just didn't like the mean tweets. So I voted for Joe Biden. Well, I wonder how you better off down anywhere four years ago. Are you excited about returning to the Soviet Union when you go to Publix? That does that appeal to you? Do these policies are is calling Kamala Harris a communist to just that's to me to too harsh or rhetoric. Grow up. The world's a mean place. Is it presidential? Probably not. But a lot of people think it is. It's presidential by virtue of who say it in a president. So I just I look at like the data bashes and the John Kings and the Chuck Todds and Oh, we just can't have this. He's too vulgar. He uses course rhetoric. There's too much toxic masculinity there. I think we should label her 25 said like she changes her voice and head movements for the hip-hop crowd. If really a red baker rock if you've been living under abbreviated you from hearing that woman say your own name on a campaign ad. I don't I have my television to stay on mute. Only time I watch TV with the sound ons for sports. So there's not a lot of there's not a lot of advertising for Kamala Harris on if in talk one of six five. I don't think I'm alone here. Plus they're not really advertising in Alabama. Maybe over in Florida. They think they can win Florida. I hope they put a bunch of money in Florida. I think that's a losing fight and a texture. Trump just needs to do who would say whatever he needs to win because the other side will. But the Republican still do that. body. I don't care what's the proper renunciation of her name. What she's done her career her gender or core and she's a Democrat and that's the red flag as I see it. Scott Jeff does it seem like a balloon popped after the R and C Convention. Where did the enthusiasm go? The media played a game here. I mean, I think the entire this is a little tinfoil out of me, but the entire media played a game here with us. The entire Democrat establishment too. Republicans after that first debate, did they set Joe Biden up? A lot of people are saying they sent Joe Biden up to fall flat on his face. After he wins the nomination, he won all the delegates. He is the presumptive nominee. There was no real election contest. And in the back of their mind, a new plan B would be Harris. Harris could not win the Democratic primary. She's a bad candidate. She's a bad campaigner. Yeah, she just doesn't have the intellectual wherewithal to be challenged. And you know, she's on the debate stage with other Democrats and they're challenging her. She can't just say racist, sexist, misogynist, hate or whatever, because they're Democrats. Who is she going to say that to? I mean, they got away with it kind of with Tulsi Gabbard. But there would have been other takers in a Republican Democratic presidential primary had Biden stepped aside a year ago. Okay. Biden falls flat on his face. Kamala Harris can't win a Democrat primary. Well, well, here we are. She is our pick though. That's who we would want. They don't do this. They don't have like a fair process. When Biden ran, we kind of saw some home cooking there. When Hillary ran, we saw a lot of home cooking from Debbie Wasserman Schultz and it was later showed in the WikiLeaks stuff. Well, here's the home cooking for Kamala Harris to pick those in Silicon Valley, Hollywood establishment pick for president to take the place of Joe Biden. And suddenly Trump's riding high after that debate, but they're like, okay, but no one anticipated the assassination attempt and the images that came out of that. And that sort of moved this process really along. But once that happened, it just took the wind out of the news cycle. I mean, it was a month ago. The Donald Trump was almost killed. And we don't, I mean, nobody talks about it anymore. So I think the media have really manipulated the news cycle and very masterfully like this is the talking points and there's evidence that this exists because they all say the same thing. It's not a coincidence. They are given these talking points and they go on these TV shows and they say them and people aren't stupid. They see them. Some people do, but it just shows that they're all working together and that's where the enthusiasm it left because Democrats realized we weren't going to win with them. We weren't going to win with Biden. The country was doomed in their view and now they think they can win. And there's this regeneration of enthusiasm. It's a sugar high, but they're going to make that sugar high last. Guys, it's going to get darker before the dawn. I mean, it is not going to get better for Trump coming out of this convention. September, he's really got to really do something and I don't know what's going on with the Trump campaign. I'm kind of okay. He's not saying anything dumb despite what the people who say they are smarter than you say. But I do think he will, we will see a difference. Let's see. Today is the what the 16th. We will see a difference in two weeks. Get past the convention. They will get another bump out of that. That'll put probably the popular vote at five percent, just not in the polls, that is, which is not uncomfortable enough margin for Harris by any stretch of the imagination. But it will just spirit a lot of you. But there's just it's got to change going into September, September, October. Can't Democrats hold on? And I don't know that they can. Certain blocks of voters don't care how she pronounces her name. They only care about how she was perceived as a black woman. And that's all she's cared about. The fact that she is a competent has no idea how to turn a country around. Pat, are you still trying to get figures on your program before the election? Now I kind of gave up on that, Pat. I did put in a request never heard back. Jeff, I did tell you the reason for having to debate early was so they could replace Biden with Kamala. Now you're right. I take down on coming around to it. I mean, there's no she's having while we haven't seen her do an interview and not as many appearances. I don't think she's caught up yet. Randall Biden will resign before the end of the Democrat Convention. Well, that's a bold prediction. That is a very bold prediction. A named texture. No one likes how Trump talks. The why is it like a Super Bowl game to watch a debate or playoff game to watch people watch the rally. People love it. Trump built out big oil to two to $120 million for COVID. Yes, we love low gas prices of a taxpayer subsidized them. And in dirt nigger, Trump didn't care about our country. When he got shot, he could have walked away. He is a patriot and it's rich. He did take a check from us. I bet Joe took his a Kamala did. Well, bear it back. This is F and talk one of six five the first thing I remember knowing was a lonesome whistle blowing and the youngest dream of growing up to ride on a freight train. Welcome back to the Japoor show that the talk will go six five and no one can just stay with us on this Friday morning. Two five one three four three zero one zero six. That's the text line. Ah, the headline I'll see it in right now. Democrats say Dork, Kamala Harris put North Carolina back in play. This is like this is what they did. And with Hillary, if I recall it, 16 Texas is in play. Um, the GOP is one for the last five in North Carolina, but they're saying North Carolina is in play. Come on, guys. D and C really, really turning up the propaganda. I guess it's just let's put the Republicans on defense and make them save resource, spend resources and in North Carolina. I think the fight's still Pennsylvania. They probably made a real tactical error by not going with Josh Shapiro. Two five one three four three zero one zero six programming note. Monday, maybe we'll have Dale Jackson. I don't know. We'll see. Also, I think state representative Jennifer Fiddler. I have reached out to data Garrett and a state lawmaker from Trust real. I have not heard back from Danny Garrett. If I don't hear back from him in the next day or two, I will ask his counterpart, Arthur or maybe we'll have him on later in the week. Either way, that's the goal here. I just somebody needs to tell me equity funding. Every time I bring this up, every time I this was the same discussion we had during the school choice fight. How is this going to make my school district where I live right now better? How is it going to make the school district where you live better? For most of you listening to this show right now, well, Jeff, you don't need to listen to think about it in terms of your own district. You need to look at the state of Alabama as a whole. I don't want to look at the state of Alabama as a whole. I want to pick a place to live and do the right thing. And you're telling me that we're going to be penalized because of that. Well, Alabama is consistently in the bottom half of the rankings. You need to do something different. Well, yeah, stop electing the same rotten lousy school board members hired the same terrible teachers. If you want change, like, take some local control. Local control is okay until you run out of money, I guess. And then when it comes to the state, well, I mean, this whole idea of equity is something that we we need to be careful with. Maybe I'm completely misunderstanding all of this, but this is what it sounds like to me or head down that pathway. We're running to, I mean, like, who, who is really calling for this? How is it going to make the life better for my kids? How's it going to make your life better for your kids? Is it? I know what can really tell us that. And just like what distrust us. Well, we'll fight that fight another day, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, I'm borrowing a, if it was any spare time, I will get to your text. I think texts are asked to believe you need to add at least 5% to Trump's numbers up to as much as 10% of some cases. Yeah, and people don't understand this. I mean, what have they made the correction? I didn't text your, I still think pollsters, not all pollsters, but some pollsters. Use turnout models kind of left over historically from the Obama era. And Obama was a once in a lifetime poll. He was like the next segment of presidential candidates. Okay. Not the next segment of presidents, the next segment of presidential candidates. He just, he had a mastery of it. He could read a teleprompter. He gave liberal women, warm fuzzies and that what made him want them want to go out and vote for him, be part of history, whatever. So they expect that same turnout for all these other elections that it hasn't lived up to the billing from Democrats from minorities, et cetera, who tend to vote more Democrat. Let's get a break here, bear it back. This is FM talk, but oh, six, five. Everybody making my prediction. So if I get stoned, I'm just carrying on and on and on and on. He's found it down, loaded up and trucking. Are we gonna do what they say can't be done? Oh, we've got a long way to go. And it's short time to get there. Time is kind to land and run. Well, you're back to the jump for a show. Well, if I'm talking 106, five things you're staying with us on on this Friday, let's talk to this Friday. Uh, there's any more time left. I will have time at the very, very end of your program of this program for your text. If you want to get in two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, but I keep a keep a pithy if possible. Joining us now on the on the line here. It's been a while, but our state senator, our returning champion, Chris Elliott joins us. Senator Good morning. How are you? I am doing great. It is a pretty day here in South Alabama. That's good to hear. I guess we're all in South Alabama too. I just need to get outside to experience it. Well, I don't know if you've been listening to the show today, but we're kind of in this. I got in on this tangent. I don't know if you saw yesterday that Joy Committee, the ETF, this new equity funding or what it's reform, I guess, is the word formula for school systems. How much money they get from the state. And I, there was a dust up between Superintendent Mackie a little bit and Danny Garrett, the House chairman. What do you make of this? Do you want, do you get any of this at all? Yeah, I'm watching the closely Senator or the ETF chairman and the Senate that I have talked about this, this process as well as some other folks that are really heavily involved in it, both here locally and at the state level. And it's going to be one of those things where we really have to watch. I will tell you, I was pleased with Representative Garrett's comment with Superintendent Mackie early on. You know, just about not undercutting a process where we are trying to look and see, can we do this better? Is there a better way to do this? And too often the edgy cracks in this state, you know, don't want to change anything, don't want anything differently. And they just are status quo folks. And that's not always the best way to innovate and to do things better. Now, having said all that, I'm not sure that this, you know, where we're headed is necessarily the right thing either. But Peter is the Senator or Representative Garrett for putting this together to take a look at it and take stock and say, hey, is there a different way to do this? Is it better? And then of course, the real thing is going to be, okay, now let's let every senator representative apply this plan to their particular district or districts and see what the changes are from a funding standpoint and whether the things get better or things get worse. Well, and this is just it like it sounds like to me that first off the the formula now is like per pupil of the system and that's antiquated. But I don't really get like if we're going to have to change the formula, then it does sound a little to me like you're going to take away from the haves and give to the have nots. Am I wrong to think that? Well, that's that's certainly something I'm going to be keeping an eye on. And it's certainly something that's very relevant to Baldwin County as one of those districts that certainly is is is wealthier. A lot of the reason though that our schools are in good shape is because of local money. So, you know, the Baldwin County school system survives off of a large, large infusion of local tax revenue. So, you know, our other school systems, as a matter of fact, Orange Beach doesn't receive any state foundation funding per pupil funding. So, you know, for teachers they just they don't they don't receive any of it's the only school system that the foundation program completely fails to look at just because of what property values are and what their enrollment is. And so, you know, for that reason alone, I'm willing to kind of top the hood on the foundation program and see if there are some improvements that can be made. But any attempt to play Robin Hood and take more resources from Baldwin County and spread them across the state is going to be something I'm going to, you know, vehemently oppose with that would be headed backwards in my opinion. Well, and that's just it though. And it it it when Mackie made those remarks, what he said, well, to do what they want to do, you either got to have a two billion dollar tax increase or just unprecedented economic growth decrease to ETF. Where was he? I mean, I know this undermines the process for him to say that, but let's just believe that aside. Where was he wrong? Well, it I think what Dr. Mackie was trying to do there was shape the narrative ahead of the process even getting started. And I think that's what frustrated understandably so represented Garrett is you've got the state superintendent playing a little politics there. And and that undermines a kind of free discussion of of this this process. Now, to your point, you know, the easy thing to do to make everybody happy on the educate side is just pile more money on. And so you have to you have to figure out if you're paying more per student or if you're paying more for certain types of students, that money's got to come from somewhere. And so my question is and continues to be, does it come from somewhere else in the education budget? I can promise you a very small portion of the total education trust fund budget is actually the per student calculation funding calculation. It is a very complicated budget and there's a lot of money that is not allocated on the basis of the foundation program. So there may be ways to put some of that other money maybe that's going through the state Department of Education directly and, you know, re realign that to local districts, which I think would probably be a good item. So it sounds way too complicated than it should be. It is the education funding model is terribly complicated. There's only been actually one real significant change to the foundation program since its exception. And it's one that I made that dealt with growing school districts because our school districts in Baldwin County were always two years behind on their ADM, their attendance calculations, because we did everything two years in a rears. And so you had hundreds of students each year that weren't counted in the funding calculation. So we fixed that, but it is a, it is one of those things is very difficult, very complicated. And this will likely be a long term, you know, long process for everybody to get their arms around. But it is a crucial, there's a crucial, you know, conversation to have and one that everybody should be watching. But it seems like one, just from my standpoint, sitting here in Baldwin County, like, I would think that Baldwin County would be one of the biggest losers here since the big system, right? And potentially big losers. This is why you, you've got to really watch how this proceeds, because we had Senator Glover on earlier. And he's always, well, you know, Jeff, that people do come down and stay in condos and pay into the system there. So it makes sense for a little bit to be taken off the top for Baldwin County. But like, I mean, how many times money grubbing politicians in Montgomery would have that mindset to think, well, we'll just take even more from these guys. Yeah, unfortunately, I couldn't disagree more with former Senator Glover there. I think that the, the absolute wrong way to look at it. And I'll just use the dark green city school system as an example, you know, the only system that gets no stage foundation program money. I mean, come on, none. I mean, they're, they're funding that entirely locally, the whole system, not another system, the entire state like that. And so I think that's where we can look at the foundation programs to say that's a problem. And we need to figure out a way to fix that. That's something I'm committed to do. But looking that, that's something that happens on the county level as well, right? We have local taxes in, in Baldwin County that are levied by a local law that was passed by the state legislature. And again, that's a good conversation to have there, all of that money in all of Baldwin County goes to the Baldwin County school system. None of it, even though it is tax raised in Gulf Shores and Orange Beach goes to the Gulf Shores or Orange Beach school systems. And you know, there's some fundamental fairness questions there that need to be addressed as well. So it'll be a complicated session dealing with education funding and those models. No question about it. Does that become the big issue for the shoe you think? I think it, it, it likely will be. It is a big, weighty issue. I love that kind of stuff. I mean, it, you know, it's getting the details, figure out the funding models, and, and whether or not this is a good way to proceed. But yeah, I could see that being something and, and good, I'm glad I'd much rather deal with that than more nonsense about gambling. Well, to say how long until we hear, well, if we just pass gambling, we would be having, we wouldn't have the need for this discussion, but it's always going to be a fight over money, right? You know, the, the entire gambling conversation sucks all of the air out of the room. It just precludes the legislature from getting anything done. It, it ruins relationships and brings out the naff, yes, of, of lobbyists, some votes. I just, I don't want to say it again. I'm not interested in it. We have tried and, and tried, I, I voted in favor of a lottery three times. This state is horribly, uh, and a horrible impasse and cannot figure out how to, to, to move forward. And I just get, gets in the way of everything else that is good governance. I, I tell you what about the whole gambling talk, like we don't, we have gambling is allegedly, uh, constitutionally illegal in Alabama. Yeah, buddy. I mean, it, it can really shut down the Alabama legislature. Oh, it sure can. I mean, and, and gets in the way of, again, good, good policy, uh, good discussions, and it's unfortunate. Unlike almost any other issue that I've dealt with in the legislature, it really just brings out the worst in people. I mean, it is, it is the very definition of, of greed. And, and I saw that in a, in a way that I just, it, it, Jeff, it made me not want to be in the legislature. I was there for a lot of it. It just is dark cloud. And I mean, you had people just like hanging out in front of your office and other offices. And you know, I, I can't imagine like everybody trying to get you to vote a certain way, or if you, because you didn't vote a certain way, you were castigated by the usual suspects in the media. Um, I, I just too much, I mean, you had a lot done last year, but way, way, way too much oxygen expanded, suspended on gambling. I couldn't agree a more, and, and that's going to be my argument moving forward, you know, in the next, you know, the rest of this quadrantium. The next two sessions is, uh, you know, we have tried that yet again, uh, we got closer than we ever got. Uh, and I just, but it, it, it is at the cost of so many other real, meaningful conversations and real governance that we need to do. And I just, I'm not interested in going back through that again. Joy by state Senator Chris Elliott here on the program. I just get to spend any time at the BCA event last weekend. I did briefly. Uh, you know, it's in my district there at the Grand Hotel and I, I feel, uh, I feel almost obligated to host and be there to, you know, welcome, uh, welcome folks to the district. Uh, as a, the, the benefit and the curse of representing the, the district that's got the Grand Hotel and Fair Hope and all of the pretty debriefers or in all of the beaches, uh, you get to play host a good bit. But, uh, you know, eventful, um, and, uh, heard some, some interesting conversations there. Always a good networking event to kind of see, hey, what's, what's going on before we get back into session? Well, if I take from it was kind of that, I mean, I think it sounds like BCA is at least rhetorically going to be more aggressive, but I think this is more of a, like the precursor to prelude, if you will, to like, could be kind of a crazy 26 cycle senator. And I mean, you know, how many open seats are there going to be? Is, is, is the business council of Alabama laying down a marker right now? Who knows what's going to happen in the gubernatorial race? I mean, I think Ames was a pretty solid pick right now, but like, does that get shaken up? What does 26 look like if Harris wins? If she wins, 26 is going to be a big Republican cycle. I mean, we won't have a repeat of 22. I've convinced, that it will be a Republican cycle of not. And it will be a sort of a milk toast Democrat cycle. I mean, a Democrat cycle nationally probably, but what does that mean for Alabama? And I don't know, there's a, there's a populist sentiment in the Republican party now. Are they looking ahead, a potential bumpy ride in 2026? Um, well, a lot to impact there. I mean, I think the most impactful thing that will happen at the, at the statewide level in 2026 is going to be driven by what happens in November in the presidential election. As far as who does what, where and where those pieces may or may not fall, if we have a Republican White House, I think the likelihood that there's more movement statewide and more spots to move is probably good. And so we'll have to see how that works. And of course, there's all those folks kind of jockeying for position right now and starting the talk, you know, here about two years out, but less than two years out now about what they may do. I will tell you, Lieutenant Governor Will Ainsworth was in Foley on Wednesday and spoke to the South Ball and Chamber Leadership Series and man, the life. That guy is on fire. And I hear me now, he's, he's going to be the next governor of the state of Alabama. And I'm so excited about the energy and tenacity and just, and the principal's conservative approach he brings to the state. Um, and I, you know, he's, he hadn't announced yet, but you can count that as an endorsement as far as I'm concerned. Um, but he's going to be great. And then the question is, what happens to all these other statewide offices? He's running where and where, where some of those go. And that'll be, that'll be interesting to watch. How that presidential race shapes up, too, is likely to define a lot of what happens, you know, in the next two legislative sessions, right? So if we have a Democrat president, which I sure hope we don't, but if we end up going to Kamala Harris wins, then I think, you know, your Alabama legislature will have to spend more time making sure that we continue to fight liberal, you know, federal policies and stand up against those as opposed to when president Trump, you know, president, uh, we, we just didn't have to fight nearly as hard. And so that, that outcome, uh, in that presidential election could certainly direct what the, the legislative agenda is as well here in the state of Alabama. Let me sort of redirect a question, I guess. And, and then I'm thinking more down ballot from the governor, but legislative wise 22, we didn't see a whole lot of turnover, saw some in the house, saw our buddy Tom Watley lose by a vote. Um, but other than that, I mean, do you expect any, any, any, uh, wild fluctuations in legislative seats? I really don't. You know, the, the legislative seats are pretty stagnant. I mean, there are the occasional turnovers, uh, in primaries, but most, most Democrats seats are very heavily Democrat. Most Republican seats are very heavily Republican. Um, so I don't see the, the opportunity for a lot of changes. There really, you know, just as hard. Um, you know, most, most, uh, of the money that comes out of Montgomery goes to incumbents. Um, honestly, I was encouraged to hear what they said at VCA about there. We're going to make sure they, they supported, you know, those that support business. Um, they should. And firefighters should support those who support firefighters and, and farmers should support those that support farmers and find their interests. But, um, you know, I do get a little frustrated that it just goes to incumbents all the time, no matter what they do. Um, but having said all that, that, that likelihood is that we'll continue just very difficult. Um, not impossible, certainly not. Um, but it's very difficult to, to unseat an incumbent in the Alabama legislature. And that's just, that's just facts. I mean, it's just borne out by, by history. Center got to leave it there. But we always appreciate the time and we'll do this again next week. Sounds good. I'll be here. All right. Stay centered. Chris Elliott, our returning champion there. We got to get a break. It here. We'll be right back. This is the Jet Force show at the talk. One oh six five. But what I got is my rich, but Lord, I'm free. Have a real. [MUSIC] I keep a close watch on this heart of mine. We'll go back to the Jet Force show that I've talked about one day on the program. I think Dale Jackson, a state representative, Jennifer Fiddler, and we will try to get Chairman Danny Garrett on to talk to us. So please make sure that you tune in for that. Paul, are you saying you don't believe 81 million? My name texture. Can you tell us about you know about Fort Morgan trying to incorporate? I thought they were against that. Terry, pay school districts by their graduation rate, like a meritocracy. But Terry, the problem that is the schools will graduate people who probably don't need to be graduated. You could fudge those numbers. A name texture. More money has been allocated for sports field improvements in Mobile Ball with County this year than has been placed in school choice. Well, I mean, this is the world we live in. What else we got here? I heard on one, so six five, there are twenty three, twenty three hundred plus illegals that are registered to vote Alabama. Is that true? Yes. And you're trying to remove it from the voter rolls. This is according to the Secretary of State. I would, I would tell you is a reliable source and a texture gambling. Pot Lotto tickets did help school or recreation like they said it would in Colorado instead. They asked for even more money sketchy stuff like that. It encourages corruption. That's just gambling in general, guys. I'm telling you it's not the fix. It causes more problems. But, uh, looks like I just got a response from Chairman Garris. Well, hopefully we can work something out. But yeah, I'm going to talk about that formula and maybe he can shed some light on that. Anyway, I got to get out of your midday mobile coming up with Sean Sullivan. You want to stay tuned for that. This has been, oh, sorry, Phyllis. I forgot to say goodbye. This has been the Chappore show on F&TALK. 106.5. This is where the cowboy rides away. [Music]