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Where parents can keep an eye on kids' money habits, while kids learn how to save, invest, and spend wisely. It's the easy, convenient way to raise financially smart kids. Get your first month free when you sign up at greenlight.com/podcast. Hello, everybody. Happy Friday. And thank you all so much for tuning in to the PHNX Hockey podcast. Don't forget to subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Leave us a five-star review. I'm Leah, here with Petey. Petey, how are you doing today? You know, Fridays are usually traditionally good because it's the weekend. But as my house project continues, I officially lost my weekend today. So today I have to tape up my bedroom of the all-painting bedroom and putting back together my guest bathroom. So I think we're down to the nitty-gritty, Leah. I think we're within two weeks of this finally being done and getting back. I'm sleeping on the floor, by the way. You know what, your house project has dragged on. I know what's next. For me, everyone makes fun of how long the island is, and I talk about it forever. This is your house project. This is my love island, and I am now sleeping on the floor until it is done, because I have no bed in the bedroom until it's done. It is crazy. It happened in late April, and here we are in late August. But anyway, nothing else was happening in April. Oh, is that when the team left? Oh, yeah, by the way, oh, yeah, the team left. Actually, it was the week right after that. It was after Jeffrey Sanders' wedding. You know, it's just like, pile it on, you know. Pile it on, and this hockey thing, and it's hard. And I really don't know, Leah, as we talk about stuff in the Arizona hockey community, it's, I don't know if it's really hit yet, because every little thing, like free agency, the draft, I think that was a little spikes. But as we start to approach the season and it's starting to get close to training camp, I think that's finally when it's going to start to really hit. And when they drop that puck officially, it's going to be, oh, there's no hockey here. So I think there's going to be, there's still peaks and valleys ahead for you and I. Absolutely, and we will address those all together, get through them all together. But we're not going to talk about any of that today. We are going to talk about the NCAA, we're going to talk a little college hockey news, if you will, major junior and kind of get into it. This is a really interesting discussion that kind of started as a news headline. And then as PD and I got into the weeds about it, it became a really interesting conversation. So I'm really curious what those listening think about it as well. And the news is that there is a lawsuit right now against the NCAA Canadian junior hockey player, Ryland Masterton filed a class action lawsuit against the NCAA and 10 universities, alleging they're violating antitrust laws by preventing anyone who has played a game for a major junior team from playing NCAA hockey. So just to briefly summarize that, it's been a thing for a while that if you play a single major junior game for the OHL, the Q, the WHL, you can not play in the NCAA. In this situation of Masterton, he's 19. He plays for Fort Erie of the Greater Ontario Junior Hockey League. In 2022, he played two exhibition games for the OHL's Windsor Spitfires, which cost him his eligibility to the NCAA two exhibition games for an OHL team. And he can no longer participate in the NCAA. So just a really interesting situation. I'm not surprised that this has happened and we'll get into the weeds of it, PD. But I just want from you first, just your initial thoughts. You know, it's funny because this is something that's been going on for years and years and years. I mean, it's just, it's something that, you know, you, you, it's been around a way. And he's, I'm so, I do talk for a living, Leah. I'm so stuck on this on why this is still a thing. And I know overall, yes, it has been a huge differentiator between an American college athlete and a Canadian, a major junior player. And I think when you saw it back in the day when we're talking players like Sydney Crosby and Wayne Gretzky, they're, they're major junior players. But you start to see now, Macklin Celebrini is a college player. And you're starting to see that high tier player being a college player. So I think those two leagues are becoming closer. This is something that needs to be addressed by a court of law. And we're going to get into some of the reasons why. Yeah, absolutely. So in, in the argument, it says that the NCAA and U.S. universities are anti competitive and violate antitrust laws because of that role, the NCAA by law that they're arguing against is quote, "An individual shall not be eligible for intercollegiate athletics in a sport if the individual ever competed on a professional team." So the argument is that major junior is a professional team, professional as in, you're earning money to play that sport. Therefore, you can't participate in the NCAA. Well, first of all, so much has changed. And especially the last year that completely changes the landscape of what NCAA is. It used to be in the NCAA that, you know, the athletes, they couldn't earn money. They, they didn't earn money for their name image and likeness. Obviously we've seen that change. And that's just not what the landscape is like anymore. The lawsuit by Masterton also points out that there's instances where pro athletes have competed in NCAA sports. We use Tom Melander played pro hockey in Sweden before enrolling in the NCAA. Plus athletes such as swimmers Katie Ledecky and Joseph Skooling received 115,740,000 respectively for their academic achievements yet retained NCAA eligibility. That's also in the lawsuit. So, you know, this lawsuit is pointing out some hypotheses. And now the biggest one is the earning that that bylaw that said, oh, if they were professional, they're not earning. Well, I guess now you can make the argument that is the NCAA not professional because the athletes in it have the opportunity to get paid. Yeah, I think that the landscape has changed dramatically because of all the things you just said. And I think LA, NIL is the biggest tipping point is when you started to bring NIL in and making college athletes get reimbursed for, let's face it, they call it an email. I guess they're for performance. The better player are the more money you're going to make. Period. It's just the way it is. And so I think one of the things we need to put in perspective is the amount of money we're talking about. We're talking NIL. NIL is literally millions, millions of dollars, millions. And we talked about Ledecky and you're just under a million, but hundreds of thousands. And Ledecky, you know what these players make in Major Junior? Do you know what they make? Two hundred and fifty dollars a month. Two hundred and fifty dollars a month a month. And that hasn't changed in years. They haven't increased the sum. And I will say this. These kids are living with billet families that do get a small stipend. The families get a stipend to help pay for some of the food for the kids that are staying in their homes for these Major Junior kids. But two hundred and fifty dollars in a month, but you can't even buy a pizza a weekend for two hundred and fifty dollars a month. I think it's absolutely insane to call these players professional. I think it's insane. So I do think that the NCAA, because they've bench so much on where the NIL numbers are and where that has gone, the NCAA that used to be a very strict, you make a dollar doing this, you're done. And it's funny. I'm going to tell a little story. This affected me personally, not me, me, myself, my dad. My dad went to the University of North Dakota as a goaltender. And in after his freshman year at North Dakota, he went to the training camp of the Detroit Red Wings. And Gordy Howe was there, by the way. And so I went to training camp with Gordy Howe and he accepted the hotel room that was offered during training camp and some of the meals and so on. Didn't get paid any money, but got goods and services for going to his training camp. He went back to North Dakota and Detroit said, "Hey, we want you to come play for us now." And my dad said, "No, I'm going to go back to college." And so they sued him and said he was ineligible. And so Detroit took the NCAA to court and my dad lost. And he was no longer eligible to play college hockey because he accepted the training camp. Yeah. And so instead of going to play for the Detroit Red Wings, and it wasn't Detroit, you're probably minor league, I'm not trying to pump my dad, but he's pretty good. Instead of going to Detroit, my dad said, "F you, I'm going to start coaching." And he started coaching as a sophomore in college and he became one of the winningest coaches in NCAA history. So a little sidebar, a little sidebar to NCAA rules and how strict they were at the time to now. You've got Brony James making a multi-million dollars, anywhere reports between three and seven million dollars on his NIL, but that's insane. You've got a couple of Colorado buffalas, both making over a million dollars a year on NIL. So I think the landscape has changed so much, so dramatically that I don't see a way that this doesn't get changed. Now, how long? I don't know if it's going to be this season, next season or next five years, it's changing. It's going to change. Yeah. First of all, just going back to the major junior players, getting paid $250 a month in an athletic article. The CHL said that they argue that their players are amateurs rather than professionals and thus not subject to more typical terms of employment. Isn't that ridiculous? It's insane. It's like the language and all these little distinctions have created these divides for years and years and years that go all the way back to that story you just told. But especially for CHL players, imagine what Connor Bedard in the Western hockey league, if he went to the NCAA, what he could have made as a freshman college hockey player and NIL money. Listen, Connor Bedard, he's going to go on to make a bajillion dollars in his career. Sure. Maybe he doesn't need it. But who are you to deny a kid an opportunity? Maybe it's a kid's, you know, especially when you grew up in Canada, it's your dream to play in the CHL to play in the W or the Q, you know, depending on where you grew up. Maybe, you know, the dream changes. Now in the NCAA, there's so much flexibility. There's the transfer portal. If you don't, you know, if you don't like your playing time or you just aren't meshing well or you want something different for yourself, you have a little bit of authority over your future in the in the CHL. A team owns your rights. It's much more similar to the NHL. Obviously there's trades that can happen. But I don't know. There's just like, who are we to say? Who are we to take away of individual players' freedom from getting to choose what direction they want to take their career? What if you play one year in the OHL and say, you know what, this isn't good for me. This isn't good for my development. I would rather have more practice in fewer games. And I want to get an education. But because they played one OHL game, now they can't go into the NCAA. I just think it's unfair and it's restrictive. Well, you brought up two things, which is the, when you look at the amount of money we're talking about, which, what is the professional professional league? The NCAA making millions, and I know hockey players probably aren't. You're right. Decontinrad would have made more money going to college. It clearly would have been. And it's not just the money you're talking about the benefits to. You get room and board and an education. We're talking about, you know, clearly $100,000 and just benefits, plus the annual money if it's there. So that's clearly the more professional league of the two. But one of the things that you brought up too, Leah, is being able to make your choices. And one of the, another example that really closely ties into Arizona is Mike Barnett. So Mike Barnett was the general manager during the Wayne Gretzky era. And he had a son playing here in Arizona as JT, JT Barnett. Good hockey player, really good hockey player, a little undersized when he was in high school, went to Notre Dame won the state championship game winning goal, JT Barnett had 16 makes a choice. What do I do? I'm 16. Well, your dad's a general manager in the NHL. You're closely tied to Wayne Gretzky. And you think you have a career in the NHL. So where do you go play? You go to the Western League. So JT Barnett goes to Vancouver and he becomes a player in the Western Hockey League at 16 years old, making a decision to go play in the Western League. JT Barnett can no longer play college hockey. He's 16 years old. He gets to the Vancouver. He was okay. I mean, he was an okay junior player. He was okay. He was fine. He's not going to play in the NHL. I think he might have played some professional games, but it's been not that high of the level. But by the time he's 18, 19, dude wants to go to school. He wants to go to college and he wants to play college hockey. But unfortunately, he can't. And I think it really hand cuffed kids at such a young age to like your life is, yep, you can't go that career path anymore. You can't do it because you got paid $250 a month, you no longer can play college athletics. You can't improve yourself educationally. You can't get a different opportunity to take a different path in your hockey career. You're just done. That's it. And your career is done. Now, can you can, I know that in the NHL, people are argument, well, they pay for college. They do. They do. There's absolutely that changed things when, when CHL major junior teams were able to pay for education when players got done playing. And that is a thing. And players are taking an advantage of it. And that's great. I think education is extremely important for athletes. But I do think that 16 to make a life decision like that is extremely, extremely difficult. And I don't think it's fair. 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And that's a great, I mean, it's an unfortunate story example, but it's a good example because I think also we often equate the path, whether it's the CHL or the NCAA, to having an NHL career or even a professional hockey career. But for actually the majority of players in both of these leagues, they're not going to go on to be in the NHL. The NHL is so limited. For a lot of these players, especially the NCAA players, the education is a part of playing hockey. And people, sometimes all they know is hockey. That's what they grow up doing for JT, for example. Maybe he knew that he wasn't going to have an NHL career, but why shouldn't he get to play the game that he loves and have that brotherhood? And it's almost like a fraternity, in a sense, that you're part of something, you're part of a team, and maybe he wasn't using it as a means to the end to get to the NHL, but he was using it to a means to have an education provided for him, to have a college experience that allowed him to have friends and be active and be part of a team. And also, being part of a team and being an athlete, it's good on a resume as well. So it's not to say that he couldn't go to college, but then he couldn't play college hockey, and that's just unfair. So I just think I'm actually surprised it took this long in the NIL era for this lawsuit to happen. I'm sorry for this kid, Ryland, who is the one having to do it, but kudos to him for bringing this forward, for pointing out all these examples of the hypocrisies. And honestly, maybe if the CHL is threatened by this, and maybe I get why the CHL wouldn't want this to happen, because they don't want to lose, they don't want to lose the Connor Badards. They're sure the NCAA, but then maybe they should pay their players more than $250 a month. It's really that this is where some of the other agreements come into though, as you talk about that, is what is the level of play going to be? Trust me, there are still kids that are going to be playing those top tier players in Canada that want to play in the NHL. Those guys, the number one, two, three picks overall, a lot of them are playing major junior, they're just are, they don't want to go to school or there's players like that. Hey, I'm not academic, but it's not my thing. So I think I'm going to go and do that. I don't think that the talent pool at the top end will drop in major junior. I don't, but I do think overall the talent level in the NCAA is going to rise. And I think here's what's going to happen, because I talked to coaches yesterday and are talking about this topic. And it's funny, he said I could use his name and I usually don't, I just say, I talked to a coach, but I talked to Tom Saratore, he's the head coach of Bemidji State, I might wear my dad just a coach. And I said, Tom, what were your thoughts on this? And he said, for a small market team, 100% behind this, we need to make this more fair and equitable and being able to compete. So we need more better players, because what's going to happen, right now, they just, Bemidji State, if they get a good player, and I tell you who they had, they had Lucas Cylinger led the team in scoring. But Bemidji State, you know, Lucas Cylinger is now, he's at ASU, because he went into the portal. So he joins the portal, but once Bemidji State, they find him, they recruit him, they put him on their team, he plays great, and he's gone. And they go to these schools, they go to Minnesota, they don't go to North Dakota, they go to ASU, they get in the portal and they leave and now you're stuck again. What this is going to do is going to allow that middle tier player that's in the CHL, that's a third or fourth-line player in Major Junior, he's going to give him an opportunity to play much more often in a much bigger role in some of these smaller universities, they're going to make some of these smaller universities better. And I talked to Greg Powers, and we talked to what Greg Powers' thoughts are on this. And he's the one that brought up to me, he's the one that was really like, we're already a pro league. He said, we're already in the NIL. He said, I think that, I think you're going to see the majority of the NCAA coaches be in favor of this. One of the comments that one of the coaches made was, you're going to see a transition in the number of players coming from Canada now, because the NCAA is largely American. And it's mostly, I don't have the percentage, I tried to find it and of course my research team, Craig, wasn't available, so I don't know the exact number, but the number of Canadians playing the NCAA is going to increase. The one league that could be in trouble from this and would be affected a lot is probably the USHL. Because the USHL right now, if players want to play in the NCAA and they want to have a junior player experience, they go to the USHL and they take that path. 90 some percentage, 90 some percent of player playing in the USHL get some kind of a college experience. So I think that league may suffer a little bit because now you don't have to go to the USHL. You can go, hey, I can go play in the Ontario league for a year. And if it doesn't work out or if this is not my path, I can go to the NCAA now. I think it's going to really change that landscape of what it looks like to be a young hockey player in North America. Yeah, that's a great point. You know, you talked to a lot of college coaches who were in favor of this, but if there were like, you know, you and I have spent the last 20 minutes kind of beating the drum of wanting to see this happen. But I guess now we can talk about what are some of the reasons and maybe the USHL doesn't want to see this happen for the reason you just said what other types of people organizations, coaches, individuals, maybe wouldn't want to see this happen. I think there are some teams that you and there are teams that are on the top of the college hockey heap that are already incredibly successful in recruiting. They already have their recruiting paths through whether it's the USA, jail through high school, whatever there means they're getting their players from their top perennial top team in the NCAA. I think those teams might be saying, hey, we don't want this to be more competitive. We don't want those teams that are lower on the ladder or in the middle of the pack getting an opportunity to get these kind of players because we're already getting them. We don't need Canadian junior players. I'm not calling out programs specifically. But I know there are a few that are looking at this going, hey, we already have our players. I don't need more to make this league more competitive and more difficult for our team to win. So I think that is one of the angles that you might see. And right now my understanding is this is this is completely in the coach's hands, which is really strange. And I read that in an article yesterday, they're going to at their coaches convention. This probably won't be addressed again until next summer. But this is something that the coaches are going to give an opportunity to have a vote and have a voice on this. So I know that the coaches are going to be important. But one other angle that we didn't look at is what do the agents think? And what are the NHL teams going to think about this opportunity? And I think I have some ideas. What are those ideas? I think, Leah, that agents and NHL teams are going to be all in favor for for more kids going to college because right now, if you draft a kid out of the out of the major junior league, what are his options after you draft him that he goes to training camp? You love him. What are his options? He has to make the NHL team or he has to go back to his junior team. He cannot go cannot go back to the American League team when you play in college. Guess what? You know the American League team. So I do believe that you can become a professional quicker by going that route because you have to, unless you're making the NHL team, you are never going to play in the American League until you're three years, you know, until you're done with your junior career. And now this way, you play a year and you go, hey, you know, what your path, you should go to college next year, go to one year in college, go play in Michigan, get the, and then you will, you can turn pro the next year and now you can be an American League player like we saw with Josh Stone, the path where he's able to go play if the American League in Tucson were the guys drafted out of major junior camp. You either are playing for your junior team, or you have to play with the NHL club. And those are your two options. So I do think that there's going to be NHL teams looking at this going, hey, this can get this player to us quicker. And for, for agents, I think it's the same thing. I think agents want to have more options for their players to play because once, once JT Barnett's a great example, JT Barnett ends up going playing in the East Coast League for five, six years. What if, what if after JT Barnett, a couple of years in the W goes, you know what? This isn't the path for me. I got to get out. I'm going to go to Duluth. I'm going to go be a bulldog in Duluth. And now JT Barnett gets a different, but different style of play. He's a different player. He's now slotted in. Maybe he's, he's a, he's a middle six, middle six forward. Gosh, he becomes something. You know, maybe, maybe he becomes a third line player in the American League or whatever, whatever that may be. But his path may change and he may have a better opportunity in professional hockey because I was able to switch gears and go to a university and play a different style of hockey for a different team and a different coach. And so I do think agents as well, the agents are going to be, hey, let's absolutely, let's give players more options to play. Yeah, absolutely. It's an interesting situation. I'm curious what people's thoughts are on it. Please let us know, both in our Discord and on Twitter @PagenX_Hockey, what you think, what you think is going to unfold from this, whether or not we're going to see this in the coming years, or if the, you know, the NCAA who is not usually the most open to change will prevent this from happening, although we have seen the most drastic changes that we have seen in ages over the last couple of years. One last thing, Leo, is that you're going to see, well, we talked about the number of players, and I start feeling bad for like, I look at a player at myself, play college hockey, and I go, gosh, if there was an influx of more Canadian players, maybe I wouldn't have a spot. Yeah, I thought about those kids too. And that could absolutely be some of the downfall of what happens here is some of those fringe kids. But what that's going to do now is you're going to, again, you're going to push players to different A, you're going to put them to different leagues because there are plenty of D three schools and D two schools that can help while more D three, there's not D two, but that's a whole NCAA thing itself. But there are opportunities for those kids to play. But the other thing it might do over time is create more NCAA programs. And you might see some day with a change like this, see a U of A, ASU. Ravelry classic. Ooh, I like that possible ramification. I'm all in, I'm all in on that. Definitely, definitely an interesting topic. We'll follow along with it as it progresses, you know, whatever happens with this lawsuit, if the NCAA decides to make a change and what the potential ramifications would be. We briefly touched on some of them, but there's so many possible more. Again, talking about all this just gets me excited for hockey gets me excited for college hockey. I've been kind of hinting at saving some dates in the fall. We are planning, actively planning some ASU hockey takeovers. So get ready for that. But speaking of takeovers, we have one in just two weeks, PD, the PHNX Mercury takeover in two weekends. On August 26th at footprint, the Merck are facing the New York Liberty packages include the pregame party with food and drink a lower level ticket in section 106. And of course, Immaculate vibes, you can get your tickets now at go PHNX.com slash events. If I was not out of town that weekend, I wanted to go to this so badly, but I'm out of town. Unfortunately, but everybody should go lower level tickets and food and drink like in great vibes. And see Brianna Stewart come in with the Liberty against the sun. The sun's the mercury got to get hot right now. You saw them in the Olympics. I tell you, I am getting excited for the mercury push to the playoffs. Absolutely. You can also grab some mercury merch in our locker right now, PHNXlocker.com. All sorts of merch in there, 20% off. If you're a diehard free, if you sign up to become a diehard today, you can get a free shirt or hat and of course access to our diehard discord. So lots of great reasons to become a diehard join the family today. PD, I want to stay on the topic of college hockey because it was just announced that there's going to be four outdoor hockey games at Wrigley Field on January 3rd and 4th, just days after the NHL winter classic between the Blackhawks and Blues on New Year's Eve. The event is being called the Frozen confines big 10 hockey series. It will have three men's hockey games and one women's game. On January 3rd, the men's games will be Penn State versus Notre Dame and Ohio State, Michigan. How about that for a rivalry? And then on January 4th, it'll be Wisconsin, Michigan State. And then for the women, it'll be Ohio State, Wisconsin. So really, really exciting. I think this is great. I think that the NHL and college hockey should partner like this more to do more of this. There's no reason why they should go through the trouble of building an outdoor rink for their only to be one game played. I would love to see this every time the NHL has an outdoor game. I think it's brilliant. And I think you're right, it does take advantage and it does a couple things that help promote college hockey for one. I think you're going to get more attention on that high end and in Big Ten College hockey. Are you kidding that Michigan Ohio State matchup? The Ohio State has about it's fantastic. I think it's great for college hockey. I think take advantage of the Delta venues. I think it is a good marriage between the NHL and the NCAA. And I do think you see more of this. I do. It has happened before, but not to this level where you're seeing multiple games at a site. And I do think it's going to bring more attention. I'm not sure what the TV deal is for that yet. It's probably just on the Big Ten network. But I do think that it gets more eyes looking at the game and watching the college hockey sport, which I think is fantastic. But I'm from Minnesota, but we played outdoor games every weekend and we didn't make a big deal. We just played outside. We called it winter. It's winter. We were playing outside. It was a game. There was no fans. There was no national TV. Yeah, it's cold. You're playing outside. Yeah, but you weren't playing on Riggly Field. That's true. We played a Cameron Park. That's why there's fanfare. That there was that there. They might have wooden bleachers there, but no, I sat in them. But yeah, you're right. On the shores of Lake Bemidji. Well, it got me thinking and I'm on board for making this a thing going forward. We've talked a ton on the PJX Coyote Show about wanting to see the coyotes play in an outdoor game. We always said that Sun Devil Stadium would be the perfect setting. I'm back on that drum. There's no coyotes, but there is ASU hockey. Why would ASU hockey not use its ASU facility play at? Sorry, Mountain America Stadium still Sun Devil Stadium to me. That would be my ideal one for ASU. Who would you like to see them match up against? I think we mentioned it. I think it is. I think but I think it is U of A and I don't know how we can get that university of Arizona down there in Tucson to finally fund NCAA hockey once they get a building built. Maybe they can do that. There is no better outdoor match up than ASU of A. Yes, give it to me all day. Feed me that one. If they can't come, now we got to talk about their league, their NCHC match ups. I think you've got to go to the best of the best there. I think it's like a Denver. Denver was, I like your U of A answer, but in terms of like if this were to happen next year, Denver was the first one that popped in my head. I think Denver too because we here at PHNX have a natural rivalry of the DNVR or our sister station in Denver, so that would help bring a little rivalry in this battle. Denver is the best of the best. I mean, they're in the national defending national champions right now. So I think that would be one I, of course, for me, I would like to see a team from the state of Minnesota. They have six Division I teams. Let's see one of those come down with the Golden Gophers, the Bulldogs, the Beavers. I thought you were going to say animals. What animals? But many state Beavers, they could come down. There's a lot of animals there. The Mavericks, they're, they're a, they're a white white. What do you think that a team from Minnesota would love to come to Arizona in January? You think? Yeah. Normally, ASU always does that tournament in January anyway, but in, so just put it outdoors. You nailed it. That's it. It's chilly here. It's chilly enough to have an outdoor rink. They did it in L.A. They did it. No, you can do it. You can, you can, you just, but you have to get extremely lucky and all have to be night games. No sunshine because apparently the sun can melt ice. That's what I've heard. Yeah. But yeah, that that tournament, but buddy, yes, over a week long weekend and just play Friday, Saturday, Sunday nights. I think now they play two games in one day, but can't do that because of the sun. Yes, three straight days, game one, game two finals. Nailed it. I'm all in. I was called Greg Powers tomorrow and get them, get them started. Is it mountain America stadiums? That really was called? We can call it the PHNX classic. It was our idea. I know. Yes. We can be like the commissioners of the whole weekend. We can leave the parade. Look at Lee and I coming up with ideas. I love Craig here. I like it. Oh boy. Oh boy. All right. Well, Petey, we've talked a ton about college, hockey and such. Anything else before we get going? Do you have any weekend binges you want to throw in? Any other Friday, fun day topics that you want to get to? I have no TV in my bedroom anymore. So that's how it and I will say this. I'll give him a quick binge. My quick binge is we are now sleeping downstairs in the office. I sleep on the floor. My wife sleep on the couch and we become a ritual as we're camping out in the office that we put on one of those, you know, the free TVs like 2B or yeah, or what's the other one? Roll cool. We put one of those on and we watch Johnny Carson and they're just in a loop. And Johnny Carson is a shade before your time, but it was a very simple time back in the 80s and early 90s. And you just go, "Oh, life was so simple then." And we watch comedy. It's very, very, very fun. But also coming up and it's next week, so we're probably talking about actually going to try to talk about it on one of our shows. To get out of the heat in Arizona, go to OSHA, the Arizona State High School Hockey Association, go to their website. Their seating tournament, which means every team will play and that starts next weekend, not tomorrow. Not tomorrow, the 17th, all those games are free and they're all over the valley. A lot of them are up in Scottsdale, Dyson, and just go check out High School Hockey. It's like a real cool tournament atmosphere. It's game after game after game at all three ranks up there. That's so fun. It is cool. So I'm going to talk about it a little bit more. I'm going to try to get Kenny, their president, to maybe we talk to a quick talk on our YouTube channel next week. We'll see. Awesome. Well, that's a great one. That's a great idea for an activity still hot here and great way to see some hockey in the valley for free, especially. My weekend binge, I'm currently in the midst of catching up on all the shows I didn't watch. I didn't watch like much TV at all when I was gone, obviously. Two things. One show that we watched on our trip on the planes and trains was Fallout on Amazon Prime. I was talking about Fallout in our discord about a month ago. It is a video game. So it's a TV show based on a video game, but it is really good. It's like a post-apocalyptic. You like it? Loved it. Really loved it. So season one is out now on Amazon Prime. It was so good, so clever. I don't know. I just really liked it. And Shane had played the full game and he said that they did a really good job with the show. I'd only played the game for like an hour. So totally different. So that's one. And then my other one, we started on Apple TV is presumed innocent. Have you watched it? Love. Love. Yeah, I saw it to the end. Okay. So we watched the first two episodes. How many? Oh, first two. Yeah. Buddy, edge of your seat and every, I won't give anything away. The butler did it. No, there's no butler. I bet I will say this. Lea, that show, it is so emotionally draining at the very end of the show. Every episode, every single one, they throw something at you and you go, oh, you're like, you're finding that calm comfort zone, like it's explaining things and you kind of get it and then boom. And you go, oh, that is an unbelievable. I love Jake Gyllenholt. It's so funny. So good. It's so funny. So like the whole trip in Europe, like we're watching, we watch Fallout, like the whole way there, we watch it on all of our planes and trains because they're our episodes. And then we finished it on our last train ride. So for our full travel day back, we're like, Oh my God, we need something new. So we downloaded the first two episodes of presumed innocent, but that's all we had time to download with the bad airport. We watched the first two episodes and we're on the plane, like dying. We want to watch one and see what happens next. The thing that we ended up watching right after that is we had no choice. We were like, looking through the Air Canada movies, we watched Mario Brothers. It's not on my list just to be very stark contrast from presumed innocent. I would think a little different vibe to the Mario Brothers. I will say, Leah, this show, it becomes a it's a murder mystery that takes place in court. For those that don't know and Jake Gyllenahull, it's accused of murder. But and you honestly, as the viewer, you have no idea. And it's right up. My wife and I right before watch the final episode, Leah, we were starting to list who it could be. And I think we had like seven people, like it could be any of these seven. It is just breathtaking, heart-wrenching TV. And I can't wait for you to get through the whole experience. And it keeps you on edge and tell that final credit. It's an unbelievable show. And they're going to make a second one. I don't know what they're going to do for a second one if it's a different different case or what they're going to do, but they've already been renewed for season two because you can't do this again. You already know. So I don't know. Okay. Well, how about that? This is what happens when we haven't done weekend binge in like three weeks, so much new material. Yes, I like it. Leah, we missed this. This is like an audio together in a long time. I know. It's fun. I missed this for sure. If you're listening to this right now and you haven't left us a five star review or left us a little written review, we would sincerely appreciate if you did that. If you have not yet subscribed to the pH and exports YouTube channel, make sure you do that as well. So you don't miss our weekly live shows every single Wednesday at 11 a.m. You can also go back and watch any show anytime on demand there as well and make sure you become a dive hard so you can join our Discord chat with me, PD and Craig anytime. Craig, of course, now covering the Cardinals, but always has his toes in the hockey world as well. And thanks again to Craig for filling in for me while I was gone. This has been a lot of fun, PD. Great talking about hockey, college hockey. It's fun on the show. Now that it's just pH next hockey, there's so much flexibility to talk about anything hockey related. So it's really fun. Really looking forward to the ASU season and getting started as well so we can dive deeper into that. So again, if you missed the Greg Powers interview, that's on our YouTube channel now as well. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. You can follow us on Twitter @LiamArrow as Peter's hockey @phnext_hockey and enjoy the rest of your Friday. 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