In this episode, Andrew Lewin welcomes Marce Gutiérrez-Graudiņš (Founder and Executive Director of Azul) and Kat So (Research Associate for the Centre of American Progress) on the podcast to discuss the results of the Upwell conference.  They highlight the value of collaboration and interaction and the importance of hearing from people in conservation that are not normally heard. which is often lacking when reading journal articles or documents. 

Links: https://www.americanprogress.org/events/upwell-a-wave-of-ocean-justice/ https://www.oceanjusticeforum.info/ https://azul.org/en/who-are-we/ https://twitter.com/AzulDotOrg https://twitter.com/kaaatso https://www.americanprogress.org/article/cap-co-hosted-event-centers-ocean-justice/

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