This week's Ocean Talk Friday took place on Skype as our Blab site is having some buggy problems. Hopefully, Blab will be able to solve the problem and we will get last week's recording back.
In today's Ocean Talk Friday, Nathan and I discuss the following:
1) The National Aquarium's 48 days of blue;
2) National Geographic's Pristine Ocean Project to Inspire Better Protection of Oceans;
3) Profiling the CEO of the National Aquarium doing "Right Work"; and,
4) A Robotic Sea Snake...yup, you read that right! It's pretty cool!
Speak Up For Blue TV:http://bit.ly/sufbtele
Support the Podcast:http://www.speakupforblue.com/patreon
Shop for the Ocean:http://www.speakupforblue.com/shop
10 Ocean Tips to Conserve the Ocean:http://www.speakupforblue.com/wordpress/sufb_optinpdf
Show Notes:http://www.speakupforblue.com/session145
welcome to the speaker for blue podcast session one hundred and forty nine what's up everybody it's ocean talk Friday my favorite day of the week and that we got Nathan Johnson here and we're going to have a great time we're going to talk a number of stories we're going to talk about forty eight days to ocean talk or is notion talk forty eight days to ocean day and what we're going to do during those forty eight days according to the national aquarium we're also going to talk about how we can better the oceans and how people are better in the oceans and looking at through like through the conservation of pristine seas and getting people really to love the pristine part of the ocean we're also gonna talk about one man's right work I know it's kind of a weird title but it's the right work in the earth oceans and see what he's doing we're gonna talk about a cool little thing that Nathan found it's it's called the robotic snake and they're kind of cool they're scary as hell but they're kind of cool in what they can do and that's all on ocean talk Friday so stay tuned welcome to the speak up for blue podcast helping you get involved in ocean conservation and now here's your host loves football so much I mean he really really likes it hey everybody welcome back to another exciting episode of the speak up for blue podcast your voice for the ocean I am your host Angela and founder speak up for blue dot com marine ecologist and self-proclaimed ocean printer and today is ocean talk Friday and we are here with Nathan Johnson as usual we're not on blab today but we're on Skype because blabs grew it up our recording from last ocean talk Friday so we didn't really want to take a chance that is the lost episode we are going to try and figure out how to get that episode back so we can maybe post on another ocean talk Friday because it was really cool because we had Dustin bomb back on with us talking about a bunch of different you know a number of different articles like we normally do but we just had a third perspective which was awesome so Nathan welcome back to the show on Skype we're not live well we're recording this but we're live to each other but we're not live to an audience how you doing did you have a good week I'm doing well yeah thanks for having me the the week's been going pretty good I'm down in Texas so we got got a lot of rain oh yes Houston got floods didn't they yeah Houston was flooded the last couple days but Galveston was all right for once good not get the brunt of it I got my coffee ready to go so so I'm excited right on coffee at what 8 20 at night 8 20 right on you're gonna be up for a while caffeinated or decaffeinated caffeinated oh it keeps me going for like an hour and then it tails off and I can sleep then you crash right at least that's the plan right on well I'll tell you well we got a pretty exciting show because you've gotten some really good stories as usual and I just realized as I was reading up the stories we never actually planned usually we planned out which stories we're gonna do we had five so I just went with the first four because I thought they were cool we're just gonna wing it so that's what we're gonna do so so yeah so we got some pretty good pretty good articles coming up and one thing before we go is I wanted to let the audience know that we've relaunched our speak up for blue YouTube channel I've done it recently I've started I tried to do a vlog every day in April thing that didn't work out every day but I've been trying to keep up I'm gonna try and keep up to do two to five days a week of vlogs and maybe we can get Nathan to do some of those vlogs as well if time permits but I just I just threw that on him right now on the recorded podcast that's that's the way I that's the way we work here speaking from this he's just like I'll do anything so yeah so anyway so so we're gonna we're gonna relaunce that because we just want to hit another platform we went and I think YouTube is a great platform to hit we're gonna do short videos that you know two to five minutes long and we're gonna try and hit you two to five two to five days a week so I think that'll be fun we just got to get the editing under control but and now we're gonna we're gonna have a good time with that as well as our podcast and we get some other things coming up and on on Ocean Day but we're gonna keep that a little secret for now but but some cool stuff is coming so we're looking forward to it but speaking of Ocean's Day let's get into the first story Nathan do you want to take us take us on this run yeah this is a basically a promotional campaign by the National Aquarium so from I believe starting Friday April 22nd until June 8th which is World Ocean's Day the National Aquarium is doing what they call 48 days of blue so what it is is basically every day you'll get an email from the National Aquarium with a different tip or strategy to help protect the oceans be a little more conservation minded and it's the point of it is it's something that you can easily do so if you're not gonna get an email saying hey donate a hundred bucks to our aquarium at least I don't think you will yeah it's stuff that they focus on reducing plastic usage conserving water and energy and just other sustainable living techniques to get people thinking about the ocean more to inspire people to take small steps to how they can protect the ocean so some examples they give are you know cut down on your shower time run this day or take a reusable water bottle into work or into school today and it looks like they've done it before I honestly don't know if this is the second year I think this is the third I think they said they did two years previous to this okay so they said last time last year when they did this they got about 4,000 participants on their email list that's awesome they're they're upping it a little bit this much to kind of make it this year to kind of make it a little more interactive so there will be a dashboard on the website so you can track your progress there's an option I guess if you want to roll over challenges from one day to another day you can do that yeah digital badges which are pretty cool yeah so it seems kind of like a really good interactive way to just do something that probably won't take you more than a couple extra minutes on a given day but but also sort of inspire you for a lot of folks who may want to help out the ocean but don't really have or live more sustainably but can't really think of ways to do in their daily life so this will give them from April 22nd to June 8th every day you'll get an email with a different way at the end of it you'll have 48 different ways to sort of live more sustainably right and I think I mean this is awesome this is this is the campaign these are the campaigns that we need these are the campaigns that hit everybody and just it's and it's what we've been professing and I kind of I kind of like kick ourselves for not coming up with this idea ourselves now right but it's it's something that's great and I think this is what we need to promote are these 48 days of blue is 48 things that you can come up with before oceans day as you lead up to oceans day and I think it's fantastic because these are just little things that people can do like you said you know leading up to it I think it's one day is like no straw day you know go through a day a whole day where you don't have a straw that's awesome that's what we need to do or was it maybe ride a bike or something like that or you know just different little things I can't find it here in the article but it's just different things that you can do a few napkins or taking more walks here this so taking showers that take less time right and these are little things that you can do that you don't normally think about and it's in your daily life it's what we all need to do and we don't and even like myself sometimes things like this remind me it's like oh you know what I want I want to take a long shower today but I don't need to because it's not worth it and then you can it kind of makes you think right and it just puts in the back of your head for that day you just see the email and it's really easy to do we're gonna be throwing the hell out of this and and I think I'm gonna try I'm gonna try to get up on Snapchat and as a speaker for blue account and we'll probably do one of these day and we'll see see how it goes and maybe we can take over each other's account and like the speaker for blue account and see if we can grow it right we'll try to do that so we got try you know I feel like every time with something new comes out I feel older and older because something new comes out and I don't know how to use it very well and I have like my own personal account and I'm just kind of like I don't and I call it like an ocean injury account but it's like I don't know really what to say or what to do no that that would be good my new year's resolution was to Snapchat more oh yeah okay so there we go like the responsible thing to do I've consulted with a lot of close friends and family and they're like yeah Nate I mean you're you're pretty awesome but you could Snapchat there you go you're probably right so 2016 is the year Nate Snapchat's more in my effort to be a better person are the are the Johnson family members on all-on Snapchat yeah Grandpa and Grandma Johnson and everything like that on my old phone and then I got a new phone and forgot my login information and never carry off to try and figure out how to reset it you know what we'll we'll do it from a speak up for blue account how's that that sounds great I think that sounds wonderful all right cool so yeah but this is this is something that's awesome like this is something that we need everybody needs and and I think the fact that it's great it keeps growing every year is just it's just wonderful because on oceans day we think about the oceans because we'll see a lot of stuff in our news feeds our social media probably on the news on mainstream media and people talk about oceans day on the radio and stuff like that and then you know you think about it and then after that you don't do anything about it this kind of forcing you to think about it just a little bit more and what you can do and how you impact or how we all impact the oceans wherever you are whether you're in Texas whether you're not here up here in Ontario Canada whether you're on the coast in California we're in use whether you're in New Zealand the UK Australia wherever you were all affecting we're all impacting in some sort of way and that's the way we need to kind of figure things out and really reduce it reducing these little things if a lot of people do it makes it a really big change so I think yes and the thing I like about this is I mean granted I didn't participate in this last year I signed up earlier today for it so yeah I just signed up to yeah but I mean it's I it from what it sounds like it's it's 48 different things mm-hmm so the chances are not everything is gonna stick with everybody mm-hmm but that's fine because the whole point is I mean if two or three things stick with you to where you you know if you never use straws again or if you take shorter showers every day or something like that where it actually carries into carries over into your normal daily routine past these 48 days I think that's the point I mean if you can do all 48 every day that's fantastic but even if you can just stick with two or three that for whatever reason seem really simple to you and really easy for you to remember then I mean that that still is accomplishing something so the fact that they're putting all of these different things out in a short amount of time basically taking the shotgun approach and whatever sticks with someone that's that's what sticks right I think that's a really good way to go about reaching a bunch of different people who have a bunch of different lifestyles and you know all of this is contingent on them just finding one or two things that they can stick with I agree I completely agree I think this is great I'm actually doing this right now I'm actually making a bitly link and we're going to we're going to promote this and I'll give you I'll give you the link it's actually bitly forward slash 48 days of blue and we'll just we'll just promote that on on Twitter our accounts and everything like that so I think it's great I think people should sign up we have two days to sign up and I'm sure you can sign up throughout the whole process and yeah you're gonna hear a lot from us and and there's actually a highest hashtag 48 days 48 days of blue and we'll promote that on the on the website on our show notes at speaker for blue dot com four slash session 149 so that's great I love this thing you know we're this thing we need more of this I would like to see this you know almost be duplicated going from Friday till Oceans Day and then Oceans Day on you know another 48 days after blue just to be like hey you know we need to go back and we need to remind people of all this stuff right and I guess you couldn't you know it'd be I at first when I read this article I was like well maybe we can make it so it happens every day 365 days blue but then you wonder if people get tired of it right the 48 days is short it's sweet and you know people can can relate to it and and maybe this could be more of like a throwback Thursday type thing where every once in a while be like oh remember 48 days of blue well this is one of the days or you know I just keep reminding people every once in a while of what you can do to help but I'm definitely going to keep track of this and and we'll we'll we'll definitely promote the hell out of it so so yeah that's awesome all right so we'll go to the next article take care of this one the better oceans better world inspiring conservation through pristine seas so this is a National Geographic article that is promoting and essentially a National Geographic project it's it's the Lindblad Expeditions National Geographic they call it the lex-ng fund and aims to protect all the wild places in the ocean while facilitating conservation research education and community development programs in places we explore so this article just essentially highlights some of the great work that they're doing and I think this is kind of fun this is an interesting project because this is funding the nonprofit National Geographic so this this has been going on I'm assuming previous two National Geographic going from a nonprofit to a for-profit right back in September so I think it's an interesting thing that this is these are some of the projects that they used to do I don't know if they're still gonna do this because it can they do it under a nonprofit arm I have no idea but regardless this stuff goes on they called the National Geographic's pristine seas project and essentially the lex-ng fund has pledged $500,000 each year for the past five years so 2014 to 2018 to the project and has successfully met the commitments thus far so the commitment it was basically to fund the exploration and documentation of pristine seas and what they do is they get films and photographers to go into these pristine seas and essentially just film and photograph all these wonderful images and there's some great images on the link which will be on our on our show notes and it's just I mean you look at this and you're like okay this is what this is what the ocean should look like you know and this is what this is a great a great thing for us however you know I also caution it I mean this is this is what really comes down to and and the question that all conservationists ask is do we just show the pristine or do we show the pristine to say this is what the ocean should look like let's you know let's get let's let's inspire people to get it back to the way it is and then show the negative aspects of the ocean know what you know what the ocean say reefs look like very close to human impact like what we've been talking about or do we say just show the pristine items or do we just show the negative items right the negative areas I put that question to you Nate what do you what do you think I think you got to do both which one more tough question like I don't even know if it can be answered to be honest but I just like to hear your opinion I'm an optimist I'd like to think I'm an optimist so I would go if you got to show the pristine more right because I think that inspires hope in people but I also know that as someone who who knows a lot more about these issues than the average person I've seen plenty of images and like red stories of degraded oceans so if you if you were to show me a picture of like a bleached coral reef or coastline filled with trash I prob I mean I would say that sucks but it's not gonna probably snap me out of something that or instill something in me that I wasn't already there right but for me what really gets me excited is seeing these I guess pristine systems or even just seeing anything that has a lot of biodiversity and that seems to ecosystem that still seems to be functioning really well so so personally that's what does it for me I also think you get up against the whole negative Nancy conservationist stereotype if all if all you do is show the the degraded areas but again I think I mean the most important thing is you got to have both you can rope them in with these pristine things and then show them you know this is realistically what a lot of these systems are like except for these really unique oases in the ocean most of it looks like this yeah or you know you could do the other way you could say look this is what the Great Barrier Reef looks like now this is what the coral bleaching event looks like now worldwide but look at these amazing areas in the Galapagos and off the coast of Mexico that are still really incredibly pristine and in this era of climate change and coral bleaching and massive pollution there are still habitats that can look like this yeah so we're not too far gone I think it really depends on what mission or what message you're trying to send out yeah audience you're talking to but I mean personally for me it's it's the the pristine areas that get me really excited yeah well it's true it gets you excited because it gets you it inspires you right you like for me when I see that I'm like I want to dive there I want to go there right away you know and I get the you get the envy of the photographers who get to go there and the explorers who get to go there you like I want to go there you don't want to you know there's nothing like for me as a diver and I'm saying diving is because I am about to go to Cuba in a couple weeks and I want to dive so I'm very excited to look at pristine areas but you don't want the worst thing for a diver is you don't want to go down south or to a to a reef and dive on a reef and it's degraded right like I've done that before and it's very disappointing so well and that's what most of the places probably I like too yeah absolutely how much film was in pristine that they had to sift through to get right you know a couple minutes of beautiful systems that they have exactly yeah and it becomes it becomes difficult that way and so I think they do inspire those images do inspire you in the films do inspire you and you say I want I want that and then you realize that that doesn't happen everywhere and you're like okay how do we fix this right so it does give those questions of like for the people who want to do something about us how do we how do we fix this one is education to is actually implementation of of the solutions right once you once you learn what you can do if there are if there are solutions so yeah I think I think you're right you know when you when it comes down to it it's it's we need to communicate it a little bit of both you say these are the pristine areas but there's a lot of areas that are pristine and this is why and this is what we need to do about it you know and and it's one of those things where I think it does hit home a lot faster especially in today's world with the technology that we can reach messages a lot further than we could you know say 10 15 years ago and I think you're seeing a lot more done because of it or a lot more action being taken because of it so I think it's I think it's awesome now just to go on about this pristine pristine sees the brainchild of this is the exploring residence doctor and reek Salah and he was from the meta he was he gripped around the Mediterranean Sea he witnessed he said they witnessed firsthand the negative changes to its marine environment he wants to make a difference then the idea began for a boy's dream of cleaner local waters and grew into an international effort to protect the world's oceans so from you know from a boy small boy is saying I just want to clean the river that I that I see every day to coming up to be coming up you know basically a doctor a expert in his in his field to going in the end of photographer to going into as a national geographic exploring resident which is a pretty high position a highly respected position another exploring residence is somebody we know in front of the show is dr. Sylvia Earl so you know they don't take this lightly I mean this expert basically he has led marine expeditions to the earth's most remote places and has over a hundred scientific publications to his name and ways when when his work isn't done when he surf when he surfaces however so his reports of scientific findings to government leaders inspiring them to create legally protected marine reserves and one of those marine reserves or actually two of those was in a there's some marine sanctuaries in the reserve in the Galapagos marine reserve that protected two islands or further protected two islands wolf and Darwin stepping up sections that section or that protection to to to protect nearly a third of the the Galapagos marine reserve which is basically protecting one of the largest biomass sharks biomass of sharks on the planet if you think about it that's a big chunk of sharks which is which is fantastic because the Galapagos has gone back and forth in terms of opening up hunts and closing down hunts and opening up hunts now this essentially stops that in this area of the of the large one of the largest biomass is shark on the planet so that's you know that's a great thing so National Geographic can do great things which is which I think is something that we need to remember it'll be interesting to see if this project continues or something similar continues in its new status as you know own under the the Fox or Rupert Murdoch umbrella and and because now it's not a nonprofit organization can it still take on private funders and and and donations from people to to put on these types of expeditions so that'll be interesting to see I hope it does because it can do some great things it's got some great ships to do it so it's got the the infrastructure to do it so we'll see if it actually does and I think it all depend as usual all depend on funding yeah so what are your thoughts on this thing I agree I hope I I think it will certainly be interesting to see how it adapts to the change in its status from from nonprofit to for profit but I hope that that doesn't mean that it can't pursue meaningful conservation and education and sustainable management initiatives because there's a huge opportunity for other for-profit companies to get involved in these types of whether it's strict conservation or whether it's just sort of more sustainable management of the ocean sustainable use of the ocean there's there's a market for that and I I as difficult as it may be I believe that there's a way to make money off of doing that in a way that doesn't harm the systems harm the people who still need to make a living off the ocean so it would be actually really inspiring to see a group like National Geographic that has infrastructure to do all this has the knowledge to do all this and now even though they've recently changed control from nonprofit to for-profit after being bought by Murdoch yeah if they if they still pursue this mission it can sort of open up the door for other for-profits to say look it doesn't matter if you're nonprofit or not there's ways that you can contribute to the sustainability of our oceans and of our terrestrial ecosystem so you know I'm not trying to imply that I have the answers of how to do that but hopefully the business minds who run organizations like National Geographic can figure that out and won't be dissuaded from doing that just because now though there would be a for-profit and not a nonprofit yeah no exactly that this this will be an interesting thing and to see because I mean National Geographic is a place where things happen you know whether exploration education you know communications and community development that happens with National Geographic or has happened in the past obviously their channel has always had some some problems because it was under the Fox sort of umbrella however you know we need to we need to look at this and hopefully the I guess hope that this will that National Geographic will will continue its work in in what it's doing in this type of pristine ocean work so I think it'll be interesting to see what happens all right so that's a good story and these two stories kind of lead into the third story of of one man's right work in the in the air so since why don't you take us through this one because I think this this this one just like the last episode where we talked about the Fisherman's journey of you know coming going from you know basically unsustainable fishing practices and over exploitation to you know sustainable practice under exploitation and you know an actual job that he can keep this is very similar to that except on a different level and in a different place in ocean conservation so why don't you take us through that right so this comes from an article in the Huffington Post and it profiles John Racanelli I think I pronounced that right I think so yeah he's the CEO of the National Aquarium in Baltimore the same group that's doing these 48 days of blue and it it goes into a little bit about how his effectiveness as the CEO of the aquarium is all related to the fact that he's finally found a position and organization and a cause that he's passionate about where he hadn't had necessarily had that early nurse professional career they say he's always conservationist he's always very he's very passionate about the outdoors particularly the oceans but until he found a position at the aquarium he wasn't really doing a job that he felt he could be 100% invested in so you know they they give a couple examples as to how the aquarium has changed since since John's become the CEO so they say that they've moved primarily from being a marine animal and plant attraction into a world-class center for education on ocean health they've developed models for urban waterfront areas at the aquarium they mentioned the 48 days of blue they talked about new initiatives to bring underserved schools and young children to these two these aquarium exhibits creation of a new animal care and rescue center in partnership with local schools part of the partnerships with other aquariums and international conservation organization so basically moving from a business model of we're going to get people to our aquarium by whatever means necessary basically by having crazier exhibits and larger animals and that sort of thing right to focusing on bringing people to our aquarium in the hopes that they can become more educated about the environments that we're hoping to promote and protect and I think the really so I mean there's a couple really interesting things about this article one is John's notion of the seven-generation approach where he mentions that you know a lot of people will think about the impact that they'll have on their offspring's generation of their kids generation what type of legacy they'll leave for their children but for him he likes to think seven generations down the road to measure whether he's actually having a positive impact on the planet because those are the generations who you're not you're not going to see those ones right all you can really do is lay the foundation and the framework in place for you're the seventh generation after you to have a healthy planet to live on and and a healthy a healthy ecosystem to live in and a sustainable planet so you know I think that's a really interesting way to think about it I also think it's really great that they're this is kind of an example of an aquarium that's very heavily focused on promoting the sustainability of the oceans the conservation of the oceans because ever since Blackfish came out Sea World and other types of aquarium industries or aquarium organizations kind of get a bad reputation yeah and people have begun to look at aquariums with a little more scrutiny you know whether certain types of animals should be putting captivity and shouldn't and that's changed people's perceptions on them so you know I'm not saying that all aquariums are great or all aquariums are bad but it's just nice and sort of refreshing to see that all these times that you and I have brought up how these organizations have the potential to do so much good for our oceans it's great to see someone who's the CEO of the national aquarium live live that life out and and take that model of conservation and education and awareness to heart yeah no I agree and and this is I mean this this article is really promoting a book by by the author I believe it's her name I totally skipped that part yeah let yeah let me mail her but that's okay that's okay but I'm sure it's a great book though yeah I haven't read it I might read it because it sounds really cool but it's essentially called finding right work five steps to a life you love and I think what happens is the people who go into marine conservation marine biology marine science marine conservation whatever you want to call it enjoy their job so much because they do positive things it's like the people who go into social entrepreneurship they enjoy it because they have a positive impact they're not just making money and the living and supporting their family they're actually going to work because they love it like you said at the beginning he John wasn't 100% invested in his last job now this is a job that he can be fully immersed just think about this like if you think about how many people out there have jobs like the daytime jobs that they don't really like and then they have some sort of side job or side business that you know like their day job they love but they don't love it to like they're fully immersed they like it to a certain point it's comfortable it's good paying and then you look at their life after work and they work on some kind of side business or side job because that is what they love but they just can't afford you know to do it for a full time and that happens to a lot of conservationists I was just actually talking to a friend of mine who said she worked with sharks for a while but she couldn't work fully with sharks because she would you know she couldn't afford to live that lifestyle because there wasn't really a paying job in it so she had to go do in the winter she had to go do other jobs in the hospitality services and that you know that affects how you you know how you look at things you do jobs you have to do to make the money to do the job that you want to do and live the life you love so this guy is doing everything you know he's he's fully immersed he's passionate about his job and then all of a sudden boom he's ready to go and I think that is something that we need to we all need to do and so I think we you know we need to focus on that and really get involved in that and and I think we all need to get to that sort of point and and when I described what I just described it's kind of a bit of my life I enjoy my job I'm not fully invested in it I'm invested more in speak up for blue because that's what I love and and I think but it's difficult to make a living doing this full-time as we've discussed many of times and but I think this guy is doing it right and to figure out a way to do that is sort of the ultimate goal to get the life that you can just fully put into your job 100% so yeah that's just what I have to say about that and I love what he's done he's accomplished so much through his leadership you know like in the article he says I'm not he's not responsible for doing all this right right but he's responsible for leading that way because this is his vision and this is what he wants to do so and then you got people who fall in with the same kind of vision and they all do it the same way so well yeah and I mean you can imagine working for someone like him I mean he probably attracts the best people in the industry with that type of passion and that that type of I guess drive to this the mission of the aquarium you know it sounds like his personal goals really line up well with the organization so you know that's that's the type of person you want to work with so you'd bet that because he's in that position the aquarium gets a lot of top talent because you recruit people who want to work with someone who's just that involved and just that that much on board with with the mission yeah no absolutely absolutely so I think this is yeah I think this is a great I think this is a great article I think it's something that we all need to read and really need to think about you have a lot of people who are in the business and marketing world world who want to come into the marine conservation world they just don't know how they fit in maybe reading this book can help help them do that and and looking at this this this man who is a CEO who may not have had like he's had a bit of a background in doing things for the ocean but right probably more of a business background than anything else because usually when you end up being a CEO that's what you end up having and so so people who have business backgrounds MBAs you know who are normally just out for the money or working in jobs or nominated so for the money maybe coming over to an ocean conservation organization you get more out of it not just the money but the benefit of actually doing something good you go home you can tell your kids you can tell your generations and like you said you know it can it can hit that seven generation foundation at the beginning and hit the seventh generation be like hey you know great great great great grandfather did this or grandmother did this and it kind of paved the way for the way we live and I think that's that's something that's that could be quite quite good you know in a good way of thinking we don't think that far ahead and I think we need to at times so any last words on this this article I think we need to get them on the show yeah that would be cool that would be awesome I agree yeah and see how I would love to get on the show not only talk about the 48 days of blue but I'd love to get them on the show to talk about you know how how he does it all yeah through his leadership I think that would be a good way of doing it maybe we should see if we can contact them I think that'd be kind of cool but yeah yeah I think it would be great all right let's talk about this interesting robotic snake that I'm looking at right now and and what it's all about and and why it's so cool yeah so this comes from the website gizmodo and it basically talks about these new type of robotic underwater maintenance machines that were designed by let me get this right the Norwegian University of Science and Technology, Kongsberg maritime and stat oil so it's mostly industry folks or maritime folks and these they call them robotic snakes they're the idea was that they could help with a lot of underwater maintenance of you know whether it's oil fields or mining equipment or other types of industrial activities they could also be used for repairs to ROVs or other sort of submersibles but it's you know it's really hard to explain without watching yeah the image of it yeah yeah we'll link to it in the show notes for sure because if you want to see the matrix yeah it kind of looks like the the robots from the matrix but less less murdery yeah that's a great way a great way less murder yeah yeah they look intimidating and they do look like a snake like if you were if you were underwater and you and other than the glowing red eyes which is a tall tell tale of of what it is it kind of looks like looks unmenacing yeah yeah yeah exactly just a friendliest friend this thing yeah exactly but if you look at it from you know underwater you could think of the snake just the way it moves it you don't you don't realize that it's all mechanical at this point yeah well and and that's sort of the I mean that seems to be the the main piece of genius behind it is that it does undulate like a snake or like a heel it can maneuver its way through a lot of smaller areas which can be really great for fixing things that are deep beneath the ocean they said that it's not it's not necessarily 100% self-propelled so it does have some sort of propulsion system but from the videos that I've seen it seems like it's a much relative it's a relatively smaller propulsion system and you get for a lot of submersibles which means that will probably disrupt the surrounding ecosystem less right because it's just putting off less noise less vibration but again I mean there's not a whole lot of it that's out there or that I could find on it aside from these you know hypothetical videos you can't get one that has really great sound so it's tough to say definitively what type of noise it makes while it's underwater right but overall I mean if this if this is what it seems to be in that it's a relatively smaller robot that can be used to maneuver its way in and out of tight spaces that can be used to do basic repairs or updates on these types of undersea equipment it should save money it should have less of a footprint on the surrounding ecosystem and on the wildlife the fact maybe the fact that it kind of behaves or looks like you know like an eel down there it might also just cause less disruption than a submersible that just drops down and then starts buzzing around loudly so it's it's a really cool idea obviously there's probably going to be a lot more impact studies on this and feasibility studies to see if these things are going to be become the new future of underwater exploration underwater resource extraction that sort of thing but it's just really cool you got to check it out it's hard to describe without seeing the video yeah I agree I think it it definitely it definitely is cool I wonder how deep it can go and the other thing I wonder the thing I wonder is how if it would get eaten by an animal because it moves so smoothly right I don't know what you know usually sea snakes are poisonous so that you know they may not have a lot of predators but I've seen other sea sakes like fight each other and you know on videos of course but it'd be interesting to see what would have how how the the local fauna would would react to this to this thing because it looks it looks so real that'd be kind of cool and see if it get if it got eaten and stuff because you know you do have oceanographic instruments that get eaten or get bit oh yeah as you go down right it's it's happened quite often what doesn't matter if it's a shark or anything like that it's just you know predators will will test things so I have a feeling this would get tested pretty quickly in the ocean I'd love to see it'd be kind of cool to put like a GoPro on it just to see what would what would try and grab it it would inspire a brand new generation of just awful underwater bee disaster movies robots snake verse innocent shark maybe it is maybe that's what it is that's that's the next you know it was a shark nato maybe that's that's what this this is all about but I think it's a fun way fun way to end and the episode to take a look at this we'll show this in we highly recommend that you look at the videos and see what it's all about so this will be on the show notes at speakerforblue.com forward slash session 149 we're almost at 150 episodes which is quite good and again I must apologize for last week's kind of mess up the episode 146 which was an ocean talk Friday never got aired I'm still waiting on Blab there was a bug in terms of recording I guess or maybe delivering that recording I'm hoping that recording is still available at some point I'm kind of in contact with somebody at Blab just see if they fixed whatever that might be and then hopefully we'll be on Blab next week to to record the last the another podcast so we'll just kind of see what goes on there but yeah anyway Nathan thank you very much for for joining us we really appreciate it again as usual for having me you bet and like I said we've got a lot of things going on our plate this year we're gonna see a lot of things coming some of that is coming soon one of that some of those are already launched the podcast is launched which which is doing really really well we we relaunched the YouTube channel which is going which is gonna do really well as well basically that's gonna be ocean news and we're gonna talk about ocean news we're gonna talk about tips essentially the same thing that we talk about here very similar but we're gonna hit more news items and we're going to make them shorter and hopefully a little you know more entertaining I know with podcast people are in it they listen for a long time 40-50 minutes which is great if you're on drive or you're on your walking your dog or just on a walk in general on a hike but the the YouTube videos tend to be shorter more to the point so you can watch them quickly because that tends to be the YouTube audience so we'll we'll check out to see how that goes because it really isn't a long-running show out there on YouTube that talks about ocean news so we would like to kind of continue that so that's what we're gonna do and then we've got some things special coming for oceans day which we're really excited about so we're working on right now and actually right after this episode Nate and I're gonna talk about it for a while so let's our own underwater robotic snake it is it is the speak up for blue snake it's the speak up for blue snake that's gonna take over the world it's gonna do eat all fishing nets ghost fishing nets and yes a big clock around its neck like flavour flavored haha when you see it yeah yeah yeah we'll call fishing like that's Andrews and nates yeah yeah we'll call it fishing is a joke in your town that's that's a little that's what we'll call it a little play on that so all our hip-hop heads will love that anyway so anyway thanks thanks Nathan for joining us we appreciate it as usual and audience members thank you very much for listening this has been wonderful week we were gonna continue these podcast it's because we have so much fun doing it we're doing three like I said we're doing three days a week I said that a while ago but we're doing three days a week and it's going really well getting some in-depth some in-depth articles and which I which I really love so thank you very much for joining us you've been listening to the speak up for blue podcast I'm your host Andrew and co-hosting with Nathan Johnson today happy Friday happy weekend and we'll see you on Monday happy conservation (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music)