How To Protect The Ocean
SUFB 081: Top 5 Most Important Ocean Conservation Stories of 2015
I list off the most important stories in Ocean Science and Conservation that occurred in 2015. There were a number of stories that could compete with the ones I chose, but this is my show, so I get to choose :-)!
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Welcome to the speaker for Blue Podcast session 81 today on this on the episode we're going to be talking about the top five most important stories of 2015. That's right in a day or so we are going to be in 2016 so it's always important to reflect on last year on this past year and see what stories really captivated people and what I think are the most important stories for ocean conservation on today's episode of the speaker for blue podcast stay tuned. Welcome to the speak up for blue podcast helping you get involved in ocean conservation and now here's your host loves football so much. I mean he really really likes it. Andrew Luen. Hey everybody welcome back to another exciting episode of the speaker for blue podcast your voice for the ocean. I am your host Andrew Luen founder speak up for blue.com marine ecologist and self-proclaimed ocean printer. That's right everything I do as an entrepreneur is for the ocean. I live for a better ocean and I hope to protect the ocean through this podcast through speak up for blue.com and through future projects coming in 2016. So today we're going to be talking about important stories that have happened in ocean conservation this past year in 2015. The ones that I've talked about the most the ones I focused on the ones that I love to hear about and some of them the ones that scare the hell out of me to be honest in certain stories so we're going to go over that before we do I just wanted to let you know in 2016 I want to go full time with speak up for blue.com. I want to essentially grow speak up for blue.com and this podcast into a machine that is all about ocean science and conservation letting you know what is happening around the world where people are the projects that people are undertaking to protect the ocean the things that you can do to live for a better ocean and the stories that are happening around the world that I think you need to know about essentially raise awareness of what is happening around the world and to do that you can I need to go full-time and I need some resources I need people I need to build a company that can essentially spend all of my time doing this and all and hire people that will spend all their time and provide you with different avenues of content or a different way different platforms of content and this year we're going to grow the podcast and hopefully provide you with more videos or provide you with videos and hopefully dare I say it a digital magazine and the reason we're doing this is because we find that there's other places around media that are just not covering the right information or they're focused they're not focusing on the right things for ocean conservation to live for that so that we can live for a better ocean and that's what we want to do here at speakerforlu.com that's what we focus on is the real issues and the real solutions that you can do every day to help the ocean that's that you can live for a better ocean because we all need as a community as a global community to live for a better ocean so to help us with establishing that company and growing that company you can do so through a crowdfunding platform uh patreon that and it's a crowd for a crowdfunding campaign that I started through patreon where you can donate monthly and support our podcast and that support is going to go towards building this company um where I get to hire other scientists um another journalist and other science communicators to help bring about this this information because I can't do it on my own I'd love to be able to do it on my own it's just not going to happen and the way we work in ocean conservation is through teams and and collaborations and networks and whatnot and that's what we're building here at speakerforlu.com so you can help if you really believe in this kind of stuff you can help by uh donating and supporting us through patreon.com and so you can go through speakerforlu.com forward slash patreon and you can help establish our company and there's on the on the page there's different way different levels of support we appreciate any level of support uh and you can go and do that at speakerforlu.com forward slash patreon and we appreciate any support and we can build that community through patreon. So let's get on with the rest of the show uh today we're going to go over because it is I remember recording this uh previously but uh today at the at the date you're listening to this is going to be the December 30th I'm taking the 31st and the first off from this podcast but you're going to listen to the top five most important stories of 2015 in my humble humble opinion um and really that I've covered on this I've covered these episodes or these topics on the podcast and sometimes more than one sometimes quite a bit um and it's just things that I feel that were important to us in 2015 that probably will be important to us in 2016 but these were probably the top five that I felt were important so what I'm going to do is I'm going to start off with number five and go towards number one just like I did in yesterday's episode where I talked about the most popular episodes on the podcast which is basically measured it as the top downloaded episodes um so here we go let's go with number one is really the onset and the popular the increase in popularity of citizen science if you don't know what citizen science is essentially it is a way for people who are not necessarily scientists in that are not that don't work in a career as a scientist or maybe not have the education the traditional education university education or college education of a scientist um so they're not considered scientists professionally however they want to take part in a lot of monitoring projects that are going along going around or even conservation projects that are going around the world and there are plenty there are plenty I'll tell you that right now and they just keep growing and growing and we covered a few on the episode we covered uh three that I remember uh what the first one we covered was uh I believe I try to remember the episode number I believe it's number three with Richard Dr. Richard Kirby who did yes it was episode number three Dr. Richard Kirby did uh has established and now one runs full-time an episode or a citizen science project where you can it's called the second disc project uh where you can actually if you're if you're traveling around the world or you're near a coast you can actually build a second disc which is a measurement of clarity in the water so it's this it's this disc that's a certain size certain radius specific measurements they tell you how to build it on the site and on their app that they have and what you do is you load in lower it in the water and you record the depth at which you cannot you can just barely see or it just disappears in the water so it is a measure it helps measure the clarity of the water and really helps measure the abundance of plankton phytoplankton in the water so if you have really green water you can put that you can put that secudescan and you may not be able to see past half a meter or a meter um or if you're in really clear water you can see 30 meters down so the idea is to get measurements all around the world from people who travel by boat everywhere everywhere around the world you get more and more people who are living on their boat and traveling around the world for the the wonderful life experience of traveling around the world in a boat and they can take secudesc steps at various places around the world um and this this program is awesome it's growing and he's got multiple multiple points around the world and he's able to create research projects from it or create paper from it and get an idea of where it goes so we talked all about that in episode three on that podcast episode of shark week one was with michael bear who runs who's a diver who runs a citizen science project called the green shark project um and or six kill shark project and and what he does is he essentially gets divers to sight anytime they see a six kill shark in the um believe it's in california but south in california area and it's just wonderful project that you know people really get a part of this in pictures they send videos they're actually able now to identify the sharks uh the actual shark scarrings or specific markings on the shark so they identify individuals and they can see how many times these individuals are found in a specific area it's just a fantastic way of documenting sharks uh where they are in their abundance and get to know how these sharks are around so or why they're around and where they go so it's a great way great citizen science project there and we actually just talked to another uh another episode of an interview episode with Heidi Taylor who is in australia and she runs an organization she co-founded and operates an organization called tangaroo blue foundation and what this foundation does it helps communities set up citizen science projects for beach cleanups uh and not only do they do beach cleanups but they determine what the trends are in the the data that they collect they collect data on on what they collect on what they pick up in these cleanups and then they go back to the source and they work with stakeholders industry community schools politicians they run workshops on how they can reduce the need or the reduce the waste of these particular items that commonly show up in the beach cleanups so they can actually reduce those items and hopefully never see them again in these beach cleanups so wonderful citizen science projects that go on where people really get involved and you're going to see more in the future especially from speak up for blue um we're hoping to create something that will help engage citizen science projects uh and citizen scientists to actually get more involved in different projects and make them aware of the the data that they're putting on that they that they're providing these projects are very important and their efforts are extremely valuable and really welcomed in uh not only the speak up for blue community but the ocean conservation community so hopefully we're going to see something soon about that within in 2016 now there's citizen science where you can go out and help with a project monitoring and what not but the openness of science science is when when you talk about science especially ocean conservation science or science in general the idea of science is transparency and criticism is allowed and actually encouraged science is all about criticism in fact if you talk about any scientist you know you often think when they look at a science report or a journal you know they're often very pessimistic they're very critical well we're taught to be critical because we're talked to question everything even science that goes on and that we read about every day and you'll see a lot of scientists argue sometimes but the idea that that part of being critical is very important in science um is because it involves the openness the idea is when you publish a paper in a scientific journal um your methods should be replicable right that you should be able i should be able to pick up any science um journal article and be able to replicate based on the methods the materials and methods that they give in their project so that i should be able to get similar results or something like that in my area that i choose my study area so based on the same methodology so it's very open the idea is to be very open now this is not welcome by a lot of politicians who don't like the results of sometimes what you get from science but the idea is to really the science and especially in ocean sciences to understand what's happening in the ocean so you have to be truthful you have to be reliable you have to be transparent with everything you have and sometimes you even question your own uh your own methods and say well maybe if we did it a different way like in the conclusions you'll often see authors say well maybe if we did it in a different way we would be able to find this result or you know going back you know hindsight's always 2020 but maybe if we use this chemical to bring out you know to you to identify specific uh phytoplankton in the microscope maybe that would allow us to find out more bunnies i'm just these are all just hypothetical situations but the idea is everybody's always questioning and there's always an openness because the more open you are hopefully the more culturally you'll get to the truth or the representation of what you're trying to do and i think that's very important and one scientist ocean scientist Andrew David Thaler who we actually had on the podcast um in our episode in our interview episodes and i'll post up the the number because i don't remember off hand right now um but we'll post up the number because it was a really cool interview he's really focused on the openness of science and he's a deep sea biologist or a deep sea ecologist and a lot of the equipment that's used in deep sea biology is really really expensive he's got a lot of remotely operated vehicles where not only can there are some where you can the submersibles are manned but you can also control them from from shore or from this uh from a ship um but they're extremely extremely expensive and he's really developed a way to make them more open and he's called it open ocean and he's developed instruments where they're very affordable to independent scientists uh who can't who don't really have an organization to help pay for it uh these instruments or um he's got um you know nonprofit organizations that are interested in these kind of instruments so he's come up with a three printed Niskin bottle a case for a three printed case for uh your laptop to protect your laptop in the you know when you're in an ocean environment or a wet environment so it doesn't get your your laptops don't get wet um he's even configured it for a specific laptop that's very affordable for scientists uh and because I don't know if you know this but marine science is not really uh uh you know pimpin let's just say you know we don't have a lot of money to do things when we do have a lot of money it's very rare um to do to do uh research and it's very expensive to do this type like to do all types of marine research so um to have instrumentation that's really open and that can actually be functioned properly and be used in scientific uh investigation scientific research is just even better so Andrew David there has really done a good job and and he's actually teamed up with some some engineers who have come up with the open ROV which was a kickstarter camp they had a kickstarter their second kickstarter campaign to really put the R&D process into motion and create a lot more ROVs and you could get an ROV for a small ROV for like a thousand dollars it was just ridiculous and it's amazing that they can actually come up with this kind of stuff and now a lot more scientists a lot more researchers can actually go out and video uh small coastal areas that they want to look at from a ship and they can get to areas that they normally can't get to and it's just um the idea of having this instrumentation is just amazing so citizen science is not just out going out and monitoring but you getting instrumentation at an affordable price that other people can use and people can get trained on and you can use them in all different types of of scientific scientific investigations so thank you thank you doctor Andrew David Thaler who's a good friend of mine um for doing this he also runs southernfriedscience.com which is a very popular and important blog uh a website similar to speak up for blue.com and deepseenuse.com where he covers a lot of where him and a bunch of other authors cover a lot of different science areas based on their scientific background and their expertise so thank you very much for for that um so that you know it's part of the citizen science projects that were going on that were very important in 2015 so that's just episode number four or sorry the most the fifth most important um uh story that happened in 2015 in my personal opinion number four have to has to do with shark week believe it or not um the last five years not including this year maybe but the last five years and maybe even more shark week has really uh focused on the doom and gloom of sharks and the fact that sharks are just killing machines in fact uh last not this past year but the year before so 2014 they came up with a mockumentary essentially saying it was a story of a large shark that could that can just sit very still and camouflage itself um and basically made it up to be a megalodon that was still in existence that came and ravaged a ship in south africa you know in a couple years before that they had they what seemed that they had like what's it seem to be expert scientific experts from no and what not and and what not many people saw was at the beginning they had a very small print that this is you know uh a a fictional story this never actually happened um and you know essentially it was a mockumentary on and it essentially it said megalodons are alive which is not true megalodon were extinct millions of years ago and they were a large large shark that that dwarf the um the great white shark as we know it today and but it scared a lot of people it put a lot of fear into people and there was the uh it wasn't the only mock you know mockumentary that they came up with they came up with them one of those a large hammerhead shark they were attacking people they were seeing it they was seen in florida and it's just on and on and on and just not based on facts the wrong facts if they did try and put up facts uh and it was just it was just terrible and they got a lot of criticism by uh southern fried science his own uh why shark matters david shiftman uh who is a phd student at miami uh at the university of miami and who does shark research himself and and he's been very critical he's gone on CNN he's gone a lot of media outlets who have and he's gone on and criticized these these these programming because it's just been terrible programming well last year they got a new discovery channel got a new ceo and this ceo or president i'm not sure i think was president and this president said enough with the mockumentaries enough with the you know the non-fact based programming we're going to go back to the science we're going to go back to the truth and we're going to show better programming it's going to happen over the next couple of years so this year was a real test on what kind of information that we're going to find and to be honest they had a lot of programming a much more programming that were it was actually interesting fact-based science-based uh truth based uh programming that was very entertaining as well and they've got an improved to a lot of people that this that discovery channel shark we can actually be good like it was before and they don't have to just go on this glorification of shark attacks and fear and and make everything based on fear for their audience so that was a great thing to see now of course discovery channel still has a lot of work to do in shark week and other programming uh the animal plan has a lot of work to do uh national geographic has a lot of work to do and national geographic geographic this year just got bought over by uh just got taken over and bought over by uh fox news's Rupert Murdoch and so that makes it seem like you know fox news is not always factual Rupert Murdoch is a climate change denier so you know national geographic as a science and exploration magazine and channel is uh now being controlled by an organization or a company that likes to really proliferate fear uh and uh and and just ignorance and I think it's a lot of people are scared of what's going to happen with national geographic so you have that you have animal planet who's putting on programs about mermaids saying mermaids are real and this and that and it's just you know we're in a big we're in a big scary place with large media companies who are perpetuating these programs for ratings right and with the uh sort of the the the idea that national geographic might go into climate change tonight science or anything like that is really scaring a lot of people a lot of people that I know have have unsubscribed from the magazine itself and just been just put up their arms and to be honest it's the reason why I decided to take speak up for blue and bring it in and grow it as an ocean science and conservation channel to just and may not be big but it just to bring people uh programming and different platform information on different platforms such as podcasting maybe youtube in the future uh digital magazines to really bring in the real science the real conservation projects that are going on and to be honest to make them entertaining to people people want to know about science and you don't have to overdo it for entertainment so we'll see how that goes in 2016 and in the future but that's essentially it's made scary for a lot of people so that's the idea of what we're trying to do and I remember when the story when national geographic came out with the story that they got taken over by Rupert Murdoch I put out a post a Facebook post saying hey what would you guys think if I you know if I created a channel that was just dedicated to ocean science and conservation and I got people coming to me just like you don't understand what you've just done you know a lot of people came back hundreds of comments came back saying hey I'm in I'll be you know we had underwater diver saying I'm willing to help I want to I want to be a part of this just a lot of people supporting just the idea and to be honest that's that's that was my um sort of solidification and the idea that this might this might actually take off so we're gonna see what if that happens but anyway that was a big story in 2015 the fact that start we kind of started turning it's shifting it's it's thought paradigm to looking at real science truth non-mocumentaries and focusing in on a lot of good episodes so I was really happy to see that the third most popular or the most important story that I felt was most important was actually two episodes that I covered this year one was actually most recent it was it was a couple weeks ago um it was uh plastic showing up in the nasal cavity of sea turtles in August uh Nathan Dr. Nathan Robinson of the sea turtle trust uh leatherback sea turtle trust was uh on a research uh expedition helping out another researcher and a sea turtle researcher and they came across an olive Ridley sea turtle that they were gonna tag take measurements and send back in the water to just sort of get information about these sea turtles that are in the waters of Costa Rica and they found that there was something protruding from its nose from one of its nostrils and they decided okay well we're gonna pull this thing out they thought it was a tube worm that may be formed in the nostril but it was obviously going to affect the breathing pattern of this olive Ridley so they said if we can do it safely we're going to remove this object they started to remove it and there's a video of it and it's an eight minute video of grueling and painful to watch programming because the sea turtle had this thing whatever it was was wedged in its nose and as they started to pull it out they started to bleed and it started you can see it was in pain and it was trying to get rid of this pain it was trying to get away a little bit but it had it was as they started pulling pulling more and more uh Nathan who was pulling said this thing has to come out so they finally got it out and what did they find what was that object it wasn't a tube worm it wasn't something biological it wasn't something from the ocean that should have been in the ocean it was a plastic straw a plastic straw in a sea turtle nostril unbelievable is what it was it was just absolutely horrifying to see that something man-made and and got into the ocean and got into a sea turtle that is at risk of going extinct at some points an endangered species a lot of the seven species of sea turtles that are in and around the world are all at risk of going extinct they're all in dangerous of some level has a a piece of plastic straw stuck in his nose and it made me think how many straws that we go through in one day in north america and we're even around the world everything has a straw and when you go to a restaurant you're served water with the straw even though it's in a glass clean right it's dishwasher safe you know they're all in the dishwasher all huge if anybody's worked in the in the restaurant industry you always see uh you know straws put or or uh glasses put in very very hot water in in the in the dishwasher and even when it comes out you got to be careful not to burn yourself so it's all sterilized all wash properly should be anyway according to health standards and then all of a sudden they put a straw in because it's easier right it's more convenient for people they don't want to they're worried that the glasses might be you know dirty and my response was if you're worried that a glass is dirty at a restaurant you shouldn't be drinking out of that glass or you shouldn't be going to that restaurant so you know it made me and made me think and made me do an episode all on it about how we how much we use straws in our daily life and how much we don't need it and i i started to ask people you know try when you order something at a restaurant not to have a straw order it without a straw just say no straw please and i i do that now and i get weird looks and even my kids are doing now they're six and eight they're doing it now because they've seen the video and they don't want to have straws but it's hard because it's part of that whole culture now it's part of our culture where we see this wastefulness happen every day then a few four months later Nathan Robinson was out again on patrol on a beach where this beach has thousands of sea turtles that are nesting every year and they patrol the beach to make sure each each turtle is okay a tourist comes by as he's doing some measurements on a sea turtle and he's actually doing a different for a different project there they were collecting the animals that are on the back of sea turtles on the sea turtle shell he finished up with that sea turtle that tourist came up and said hey there's something wrong with this sea turtles got something coming out of its nose and as they're running over to this sea turtle Nathan looks to his his friend his colleagues and says did she just say something out of its nose and they just got you know all the stuff that went on four months ago probably went through their their head and they said no that's impossible because even when we did the episode we had Nathan on the show we were just like hey you know what are the odds of this happening he's never seen it before all of a sudden now it's maybe twice in four months and lo and behold it was twice in four months but it wasn't a straw it was a plastic fork which is technically even worse than a straw i would imagine because a straw is at least straight and it's more bendable but a plastic fork is rigid and when he pulled it out the the fork on the end the fork part actually you know sprung out and then expanded so i just imagine how uh how much how much how painful that could be you know luckily you have people out there doing citizen science uh which Nathan Robinson does at the at the leatherback sea turtle trust where they have patrols to do this and tourists that are involved in this kind of stuff that come out and they say hey there's something going on with this sea turtle thank god somebody was there that sea turtle could have died eventually it was another all of Ridley sea turtle so it's very interesting to see how this stuff is happening more and more this is in Costa Rica this is probably probably about 70 kilometers away from the original site where another all of Ridley turtle had this this plastic straw four months ago so it's not as if it's from different parts of the world it's in the same place and i don't know if this is an epidemic this is obviously very concerning that we see this kind of stuff so i i'm sure we're gonna hear more about this later on i'm gonna talk more about this later on i mean obviously it needs to be addressed in science of is our are all of sea all of Ridley sea turtles more at risk of of getting plastic stuck in their nasal cavities are we seeing are there more of these if we've only seen two are there more sea turtles that are getting plastic stuck in their nose right which is very concerning especially again plastic force you don't actually need to use plastic force and over the holidays we use plastic forks for parties right because we don't have to we don't want to wash our utensils our our metal utensils that we normally use day by day for at a party it's easier to buy plastic straws they're cheap and they're disposable but they may not be recyclable because they end up they're not recycled they end up in the garbage which mostly it does at a party like that because nobody wants to separate their their garbage that much anymore you know it can end up in the water systems it can happen in animals nose believe it or not right and before when we were doing the straw story we're like well maybe it's not that bad maybe it's just one thing at one time now it's twice in four months and now it makes us think that there might be more so a very important story of 2015 the second most important story that I covered like insanely amount insanely a saintly a lot or insanely a lot that doesn't make sense I covered quite a bit during this year was El Nino and not just El Nino there was an El Nino identified in the pacific in the southern pacific another one and it was causing they they predict this going to cause a lot of change in the climate now on top of that there were two more systems in the water in the pacific that were contributing towards a warmer season a warmer winter season and fall season and those two those two water bodies one was the pacific decadal oscillation now the pacific decadal oscillation is a circulation system that every 10 year switches direction the last 10 years it's been in the direction where it's brought up cold water from the bottom and bring it to the top so it actually cools things down now it's switched so it brings warm water to the surface and it circulates the warm water which actually makes the temperature warmer right so you have that plus an El Nino making things really warm then in the north and pacific you have what they call the blob is this mysterious warming water that in combination with El Nino and the pacific decadal oscillation is making things really out of season and as an example here in Burlington Ontario close to Toronto and Canada where normally the average temperatures are zero right zero degrees centigrade we normally have snow or close to it you know on Christmas Eve it was 17 degrees centigrade 17 degrees right that's that's spring weather you know December 24th we had spring weather you know forget a white Christmas we were getting rain and there's been reports of tulas popping up you know budding so that's going to throw everything off in the spring if we get if it starts to get colder we start to get a winter birds haven't gone south yet you know some birds that are normally not here are here in this time of year and so we're seeing a lot of changes in our climate and this is the first year where this is probably going to be the warmest December on record since we started recording temperatures by far I think it's going to kill any other kind of record so very important to see this type of stuff and the El Nino the blob the pacific decadal oscillation all contributing towards a very warm season in North America and around the world so it's not climate change is here now speaking of climate change just so having this warm weather really brought on what are our most important story is really about really brought on a sense of change at the COP 21 the climate change talks in Paris that happened this year in November and a bit in December I believe where 190 leaders from 195 countries ocean advocates climate advocates like Dr. Sylvia Earle and Dr. Jane Goodall who are both very well known not only ocean but just environmental advocates were there to talk to ocean leaders to persuade them to create change in their own countries to reduce climate change emissions or just carbon emissions that that contribute to climate change that was a two week long process it was very well covered by the media there were a lot of you know things coming out it was interesting to see my government Canada come out and say that they're gonna go one they're gonna go further than the two degrees below pre-industrialized areas they're actually gonna go much more below that so it was going to be a lot better and a lot of countries came out and said hey that's what we're gonna do we're gonna follow that and not only follow that but we're gonna do that because that's what we've committed towards so the 105 195 countries came out and said they came up to an agreement I think it was a 30 page agreement we went over that in episode 71 of the major points of that agreement and it's not perfect but it's pretty good pretty good start and it's it'll be interesting to see now all the talks are done and an agreement has been made and there's been an agreement to reduce emissions worldwide especially in the developed countries and most industrialized countries that we're gonna see hopefully we'll see action now from these different countries and that will be the true test of seeing if these countries are serious if we're actually gonna see actions and when we're gonna see these actions so that will be interesting to see the next five years or so even in the next year to see what what kind of actions they're gonna take and it's up to us to hold them accountable right it's the citizens of those countries that need to hold them accountable and make sure that they're on point and that they come up with these reports and we read the reports and we find out if they're doing things or not if they're not we get on them if we are if they are doing things we congratulate them but we push for more because more needs to be done so that was those were the top five most important episodes according to me in 2015 we're gonna cover a lot of these again and again and again hopefully the sea turtle one not again because hopefully that won't show up again but i have a feeling we're gonna see more sea turtles with things up their nose that shouldn't be there and not because they want it to be but these things need to be addressed we need to cover them that's the whole point speak up for blue this podcast is to raise awareness of what's happening around the world to profile you know ocean projects are the people are doing around the world and to inspire and help you implement changes and solutions to these projects and live for a better ocean that's what we're here to do so this has been a great 2015 i'm really happy that i'm able to do these podcasts from my office looking out onto my street that i'm doing right now and i hope to bring about more in the future i'm still going to continue to the five days a week obviously this week is a special week because there's a couple holidays coming up but i will do my best in providing and my team will do our best in providing five days a week for 2016 and we're hoping that we'll get some great stories to do get some more guests on segment the show like we've been doing monday's will be big news that has been happening in the past week Tuesdays will be a species podcast the species Tuesdays podcast Wednesdays will be an interview podcast Thursdays will be research Thursdays where we talk about some research projects that are going around in journal articles and of course fridays are we're going to continue with our ocean talk friday bring on some different guests that are around maybe bring on multiple guests at once and get their opinion on all these different articles so we got a lot of stuff to do hopefully bring in some videos too and that will depend on the patreon crowdfunding campaign that we're putting through if you go to speakupforblue.com/patreon you can help support our podcast and really get us to hit our goals and allow us to bring in video and pay for these video cameras and pay for people to come on and talk about their projects and talk about ocean use in general really help us build this ocean science and conservation media company so I appreciate any support that you can give if you go to speakupforblue.com/patreon I hope that you guys can support us and I appreciate all the support you give us and I just want to thank you thank you for a great 2015 we have as of this podcast we've had 14,205 downloads and I really appreciate each and every one of you for doing for downloading these episodes listening to them implementing the changes and sharing them with other people to really grow this podcast so I really appreciate that and I hope you have a good New Year's Eve and New Year's and I hope you have a great 2016 and I look forward to building this speakupforblue community with you guys so there's going to be lots of fun things coming out with speakupforblue.com in 2016 and if you're part of a speakup for if you're part of the the crowdfunding campaign of patreon I'm going to start talking about those what my goals are and what I plan to do on those on that patreon feed so you have to donate at least you have to support at least a dollar to get to that patreon feed so it'd be great to see you guys doing that so anyway thank you very much for listening happy new year and I hope you have a great 2016 you've been listening speakupforblue.com podcast I am your host Andrew Lewin happy conservation