You know, I think you look like a look at a guy like Nami a king fanciful bias, but any pet it sure is a guy who yes Oh my god. There's some house in my apartment. Holy shit. Oh my god. Oh my god. This is I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Holy shit. Oh my god. He's so small Welcome to Nini nine at twenty five. I am John Brooks and joining me today I'm very happy to say is longtime friend of the show friend of the podcast network friend of the podcast I hope right boyfriend of previous guest Previous guest himself all kinds of friends Tyler. How's it going? It's good You know, we've been a little sick in my household for like three weeks now. Yeah, so it's all those conventions Yeah, I'm not sure if Heather Heather was at San Diego comic-con Whenever that took place and yep, she came home fine and I came down with strep throat And I feel like we've just been passing it back and forth for weeks You know that sinus affections upper respiratory stuff sure swell over here, but now I'm good One of my daughters had strep throat three times in four months in the last Yeah, you know, it's a bad look because I work for ENT doctors so it's not a great look if the marketing guy is Coming down with strep throat and sinus affections. It's it's not a great endorsement Well, but then you could just be like but they make me so much better. Oh Yeah, thank God. I work here top of the line guys to help me with this this thing I Had to get Heather in today actually emergency appointment, so right helps helps to know people I can pull some strings, you know Colons of favors And we got a monkey pox and bird flu epidemic right around the corner, so oh don't even please Don't put that out into the into the universe. Yeah No, it's all right where it's what it's fine. We'll be fine. Everything's fine So fine last time we're good. We're good. Well, okay, so look yes a Million people died whatever. Okay, sure, but We did get the vaccine real quick and We also learned a lot about how to make vaccines real quick, which I think is great. So I think There's a there's a bright spot to the possible next pandemic Are a lot of Republicans not gonna take the vaccine and die? Probably I probably I don't know you know Darwin says that's a okay, you know Hey, listen You said it not me Alright, we got a lot to cover this episode a lot of fun stuff and not so fun stuff as usual to cover for August 1st through the 15th of 1999 big time at the movies as you may already know But we're gonna go through some of my favorites some ones we've covered on the show some big ones We have not covered on the show. There's a lot of good stuff To talk about here We're gonna do the movies first and we're gonna start on August the 4th When we get a few real good ones we get Andrew Fleming's political satire dick one of the One of the real popular titles of the show We've had guests who like really want to be on that episode when we eventually get around to it and we will I love that movie, but we have not talked about it yet But starring Queen of 1999 Kirsten Dunst Michelle Williams Dan Hideo Bruce McCulloch Will Ferrell Terry guard Dave Foley Harry Shira Ted McGinley Devin Gommersal Jim Brewer French Stewart and an up-and-coming Young whipper snapper named Ryan Reynolds Yeah, yeah, I'm only here for Jim Brewer So funny and relevant very relevant you hearted here first folks Tyler birth giant Jim Brewer fan, are you have you seen dick? Please don't take that out of context I don't have enough experience with dick to really know I experimented in college, but I never really know No, so I was full disclosure. I was 11 in 1999. Yeah, so I don't believe I was the target audience No, I have seen several of the films, you know later on But this is a unfortunately gap in my resume Yeah, it's interesting because as I was going through the movies that came out in this period There's a lot of the 99 movies that are now very popular that were like misses at the time and dickus certainly dickus like Almost it's up there with drop dead gorgeous of Movies that are enormously popular with a very specific set of people right now That like just we're not playing to the audience at the time for whatever reason We'll get to that one eventually, but a bigger one speaking of Box office does that are now beloved classics the same day Brad birds the iron giant starring Vin Diesel Eli Mary and fall Jennifer Aniston Harry Conant jr. James Gammon Chloris Lidgeman John Mahoney Christopher McDonald and Emmet Walsh Brad bird of course would then go on to enormous success pretty soon after a couple years later with the Incredibles as he joined Pixar and made a bunch of great Pixar movies and made a name for himself And I think after the Incredibles people started revisiting the iron giant, which is great because it's a great fucking movie But again for whatever reason because it was a hand-drawn animated film that was not Disney It also just did not catch on but is universally beloved now I'm sure you've seen the iron giant at this point. I have and I did see it around that time I think I saw it after the fact maybe on VHS. I want to say. Yeah And and I loved it and again I feel like there was that barrier to entry because it's not Disney so we just feel like by default It's second rate right as kids were like, you know, we want the Disney We don't want the dream work. So we don't want that the other studios on the on the periphery, right? We want that name brand and There's a ton of movies that I missed out on as a kid that I feel like, you know, now I'm 36 years old It's kind of hard to go back and watch something intended for a child in 1999 But it's like these are really and I saw it at the time and I really enjoyed it And it kind of opened up my world a bit even as a an 11 year old 12 year old. Yeah I was like, there's more to life than Disney animation Then Disney there are other studios which I couldn't conceive as a child. I was like Disney makes the cartoon movies. That's it And I think no, I think that that Prejudice was real. I really do like Disney owned because so many studios I mean like when Don Bluth left Disney and made a bunch of like semi-okay movies in his career, right? I think Don Bluth sort of set himself up as like the the the breakaway from Disney doing the hand-drawn animation thing But then also I think sort of cast every movie that was hand-drawn animation and not Disney in a kind of like a Second-tier sort of light and so it's sort of and especially, you know, we have this is also like It's worth mentioning Toy Story 2 comes out the same year So we've already got Toy Story and Bug's Life at this point The the 3d animation thing commuter animation is already sort of taking off So it just looks really bad timing Without the Disney moniker on it, but yeah, rightly people have gone back and and seen it for how great it is And I watched it with my kids a few months ago, and they loved it and I still love it It's it's still great. It holds up so well. It's such a beautiful movie and Yeah, yeah, I understand why it failed, but but man, I'm glad it finally found its audience Yeah, and I remember that was one of the first First movies. I really noticed kind of like the the CGI aspect of the animation, right? Yeah, it didn't look fully You know 2d it looked right there was something else going on and I'm like again as a child. I didn't know but To see it and I thought it looked great and it looked it holds up. It's still really nice kids loved it Like it's it still holds up. I haven't washed it in full. I haven't sat down and washed it since you know I was a kid, but I've seen bits and pieces here and there because my friends are showing it to their kids because it's right yeah It's such a great movie. It's so well done. It's so just heartfelt, you know Yeah, I get get a little emotional at the end and then you see all the screws and everything spoiler alert 25. Oh, yeah Yeah, well when we do the episode, we'll get to that point That's coming down the pipe at some point in the not too distant future Alright, so on August the 6th one of my favorite comedies ever a movie we have covered already kenka ushers superhero satire mystery men starring Ben Stiller hankazaria jonin garafla williamh may see kelle mitchell paul rubens wesstudie Great keneer jeffrey rush lina olin eddy izzard arty laying Proz Mitchell Claire for Lonnie tom weights ricky jay and jennifer louis with appearances from Doug Jones dane cook ricky rockman Mark mothers ball and michael bay among others I am very much on record as a giant mystery man fan Recently someone was like you won a million dollars you get to make or billion dollars you get to make two sequels to any movie What's it gonna be and I was like Fucking mystery man, man. We gotta make that make them sequels Yeah a movie ahead of its time It was a it was a reasonable success, but man I this is a movie that I have spent a long time being like You've never seen this movie. You must watch this movie. Well, it's my must watch this movie apparently I watched it again as a 12 year old right when it was Available for at home media. Yep. I was too I was like I didn't know what I was signing up for and it wasn't what I expected I thought it would be you know like a slapstick kind of outright comedy and again It's very much a satire and I haven't gone back and watch it as an adult with the oh perspective I know I know it's another big gap I've I don't think I do remember is the the official Smash mouth music video was all started on that movie. Yeah, and I was hysterical So again definitely definitely worth checking out as an adult which I I'm ashamed that I have it and I really am we talked about in the last episode because Mr. Man while the music video for all-star was mystery men's centric and all-star was heavily sort of featured around mystery man It appears in the movie It was not actually the first movie to feature all-star It wasn't the first 1999 movie to feature all-star the first 1999 movie to feature all-star was inspector gadget Starring Matthew Broderick which came out the month before so So there you go, but yeah all-star is is very much entwined with mystery men This your man is a movie that is like funniest the third time It's like once you once you know Lines that are about to happen and can sort of speak them along with the dialogue Like it's like it's like you know, it's like Mr. Show like it's really funny the third time when When do you know what the jokes are gonna be somehow that makes it funnier, but I feel like that would be a great tagline for a movie Like you really love it the third time. You'll love it the third time It's like once you've memorized the script you're gonna That's the marketing guy Three times and you'll really get it. Well, it's got that like mystery that that like Rocky Horror picture show sort of vibe to it, right? Which where it's like if you can like yell the lines as they're happening. It's like funnier, and you know It's it's part of the I'm assuming you've been to a stage show of that. Oh sure, of course. Yeah. Yeah Did you lie about being a virgin or did you go up on stage and get you know Hazed I mean I was in college at the time so you know I went on a date in high school to The theater month there. I can't remember what it's called. You're like what's a virgin. I was like I'm definitely that and like and for for this cuz I'm like 17 lettuce you're here. Yeah But I'll never forget that and then When I told my parents that I was going on a date to see a stage show of Rocky Horror They're like oh, we did that 30 years ago and we were dating that so this is very cool to kind of do it again And see that it's still thriving. You know almost 50 years later, right? Well also August the 6th die hard director John materials acclaimed remake of the Thomas crown affair with Pierce Brosnan Renee Russo Dennis Leary Frankie Faisan Ben gazara Mark morgolas and in a bit of stunt casting star of the original Dunaway, it's a great movie another one. We still haven't covered but people talk about a lot when we when we do episodes and Off Mike and so on and so forth. So we will get to that one eventually - I love that movie It's a super good. I haven't seen it in a very long time and I'm kind of wondering how it holds up but I can't imagine it ages too poorly because it is a Very very well crafted movie and John material now of course another gap until he went to prison was was was one of the great action characters Of all time. So, you know, not sure if I can speak to him as a person, but like Right, can you imagine John material like made a Marvel movie? Again as a as an 11 year old the Thomas crown affair somehow slipped by yeah Yeah, it is made for grown-ups for sure. Yeah, definitely made for grown-ups, and you know, I will say being a child I was like, oh James Bond is allowed to do other movies. That's weird Is he James Bond in this movie? It's like a James Bond of James Bond were an art thief It's like literally what it is right like it's It's very James Bond-esque. He's just on the other side of the law I'm using his powers for evil would be a movie I would love to see honestly but like Renee Russo also got a lot of props for being like a hot old lady in that and she's like 35 Beauty standards, right? Wow. She's aging like fine mind. She's already 31 But she is very hot in that movie. So well now I'm gonna have to Google that hold, please. Okay Any Russo How do we spell Renee? You know what we'll figure out. Are you any just re are you any? Oh, see how old was she in 1989? I'm gonna guess she was 40. I'm gonna say she was 40 Let's see. She's 70 now. Holy Holy moly. No, 25 years Oh, yeah, she was 45. Okay, she was 45. That's not that. No, she looks great. Yeah There's a picture from from the Thomas crown affair. Yeah, that that works. Yeah So she was 45. That's not bad. Okay. Okay. I'd like yeah, sure. I mean, I'm 45. I just turned 45 But hey, I'm not old. That's fine. It's fine. Everything's fine John Tetero's fanciful indie rom-com Illumina also gets a limited release on the same day Tetero stars directs and is co-written with Brandon Cole based on Cole's play Imperfect love with cast including Tetero's wife Katherine Borowitz who rarely appears in movies Ben Gazara again very busy Ben Gazara in three movies at least in 99 if you include this Ben Gazara was also in summer of Sam So he's in a bunch of stuff Beverly DeAngelo Susan Sarandon Christopher Walken Rufusool Bill Irwin and I he the Tetero Who is not yet appeared in Sopranos, but would the next year? And thus become far more famous. I have not seen that movie nor heard of it But it sounds really good and I would like to check it out But of course the big one on this day going on to become the shock second highest grossing film of the year behind only the phantom Menace M. Night Shyamalan's the sixth sense starring Bruce Willis Hayley Jill Osmond and Tony Collette So we're talking about Shyamalan again. I have not yet seen the movie that just came out Trap what I've heard people like it. I've heard again not to spoil anything But I heard that there's no big twist and it's a pretty much straightforward film Which maybe is the twist in and of itself. Yeah, you're expecting a twist and you don't get one. What a twist I'm here for the the The Renaissance of Josh, what's his face? Hartnett. Josh Hartnett the Hartnett of sons. He's also he's also in the most recent season of the bear He's he's showing up all over the place now. I guess I gotta watch that. That's on my list My friend is a chef and a former chef now she got out And she says that was the most accurate portrayal of a stressful busy kitchen ever in media So I take her word for it and it's it's on the list having worked in a kitchen I get like PTSD watching the bear It's great. It's great, but I'm also just like I'm just like I I hate it like I hate it. I'm just like I'm like I Why do you like doing this and? But it's also like it's good I mean if you ever a lot of people have worked in kitchens But which I think really helps and in some capacity and I think everybody sort of understand If you've worked in a kitchen in any capacity you kind of understand the like the pace and the stress and and so a lot of the sort of Drama of the show really is about the like overwhelming stress Kitchen work, but yeah growing up I I was looking for a job when I turned 16 right because I want some money My friends were working and and getting cars and getting clothes and nice stuff new shoes I was like I gotta get me a piece of this And I walked down to a local restaurant and I asked if I could Could help out because they painted every year during during Memorial day that week Shut down the restaurant repainted everything's Frushing it up made it look nice all in-house all the employees did it you could work for some extra money here you just have to week off and They said listen, we don't need help painting But if you want to come bus tables when we reopen you can do it so I did that and I ran food and I did a little bit of hosting for about seven years and I There I'm a big proponent that everyone should have to work in a restaurant and in retail at some point because you'll never be mean to those people again Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's a good man. It's not mandatory military service. That's you know And mandatory service industry, we want to make a functioning society. Yeah, we should Yes, yeah Drafted into working as a dishwasher For your country, all right, so Did you see the say 11 is enough old enough to see this extent? Did you see that let me tell you this we rented this from blockbuster? It was an event in our household. Okay. Okay, my parents deemed that my brother and I were old enough I was again 11 or 12. My brother was eight or nine. Yeah, and I don't recall the rating I want to say PG 13, but there is some obviously heavy heavy themes heavy imagery but my parents kind of knew I don't think they knew the twist but they knew more or less what to expect and You know you talk about the biggest twists in cinema, right? You have you have Darth Vader and you have that those are like the big two for me growing up It was like I cannot believe this how did how did I miss this and then again? The second time you rewatch it and it's it's not obviously not as novel because you won't be surprised But you go through and see how carefully everything was laid out and like the red doorknobs and this stuff and all the red things You're like holy shit. This is yeah, so is a masterpiece like we we were blown away Yeah, I mean it really is like it's it's more of a magic trick than it is a movie and like and and but to his credit like I think that the The very sort of like human performances and the very well realized characters You know layer it so that the magic trick is is decorated with with something that is like That feels deep and feels meaningful right like it's not just because like I love the prestige But the prestige is literally just a cinematic magic trick, right? It doesn't have the Sort of pathos that the sixth sense has right and you love that movie so and as precise as as the sixth sense is like it really doesn't work without the Spectacular performances and it's core with with Bruce Willis and hilly jul Osman until like Tony Collette And also Olivia not Olivia Coleman the other one Olivia Williams Williams in the sixth sense. Oh, yes. Okay. I do remember her her and her and Coleman confused. I Yeah, I remember seeing the sixth sense And I had no idea what the ending was and then I saw it either the next day or two days later Because I was like I need to go rewatch it now and like figure out how I was tricked and it sounds like surely at some point, right? And what's cool about it is that I recently I do at the school I teach at I Do a film criticism of course at the end of the year for like a week and Two years ago, we watched the sixth sense and it has been long enough since that movie came out And it's it's it's enough of like a A relic that none of the kids knew what the ending was no way. That's a cool experience That's so cool. Yeah, that reminds me so I play Fortnite with a bunch of well college graduates now, but they're all about 22 and When these Star Wars items came to the Fortnite shop. Yep. Yeah, my friend was like I don't understand the hype and I was like, what do you mean? You can be Yeah, and it's guy walker. You could be you know Han Solo. He's like well. I've never seen them. I was like And he didn't know he didn't know Somehow he avoided what has become so much a part of our our pop culture right in the zeit guys He didn't know that that twist was coming. So to watch it with him. It's like I was watching a movie I was watching him. I was like, oh my god, it's coming like I try not to spoil it But like to try to hide my excitement. Yeah, and then what happened again, he was like no, but he was Devicid it was so cool like to sort of have that experience with a class full of kids to watch and that's that's great as you know Dynamic is that it's gonna be such a cool feeling. Yeah, and the sixth sense I mean if you imagine it like with with the modern social media landscape like would not have worked Like one of my friends was one of the last people to like actually see it See for whatever reason like he never got to the movie theater watch the movie when it came out And and this is also when on Craig Kilborn's show. He was doing that thing where he just spoils movies Oh, and so like so my friend caught Craig Kilborn like giving away at the end of the sixth sense He's like what? Oh, well, well there goes that fucking movie for you Sorry, man, but yeah, I imagine that that secret being kept in today's modern internet landscape. It wouldn't it wouldn't work So yeah, there's something about the fact that social media was not what it was Yes, speaking of that, you know again Heather was a comic-con in San Diego Yeah And before Deadpool Wolverine was even out someone spoiled it for her from like a press screening I was like that's that's a new level of low. That's a new that's like It's not even out for public consumption. You're ruining it like what an asshole I haven't seen it yet, and I know some stuff, but I don't think I know everything So I feel like there's still stuff that I don't know so I'm just gonna like I'm gonna I'm gonna hold off on that Yeah, it's fun. We enjoyed it not to get sidetracked, but it was yeah. Yeah, everybody. I've know every day. I knew seeing it is like yeah It's fun. Yeah, it's cool. It's good. You know, it's not winning any Oscars But I was in the really entertained for the fan service stuff is very pleasing apparently it is and it's it's done well Where it's over the top, but it's not it doesn't feel played out like every time. It's like ah, okay This is good. Yeah. Yeah, cool. All right. All right I still haven't watched the most I'm told I need to see the most recent season of Loki which I haven't done yet So I watch that and then I got to watch it, but I'll so I didn't really care for the first season of Loki And I love the character and I love Tom Hiddleston and I was kind of like this is fine And there's some fun moments. The second season is is Excellent. Okay. I loved the first season. So that that bodes well. Yeah, that's that's that's that's you'll enjoy it And it's quick watch I watched it and you know, obviously I don't have kids, but My take you a month to watch it, but you know, it's a pretty no we should get through it like a week if we if we focus And lofty goals for good luck. All right, cool August the 13th another one of my favorite comedies of all time Frank Oz's bowfinger written by Steve Martin and starring Steve Martin Eddie Murphy Heather Graham Christine Baranski Terence stamp Robert Downey jr. And Jamie Kennedy Another movie I absolutely love a return to form of Eddie for Eddie Murphy a movie that we have covered We covered about a year and a bit ago actually almost exactly a year ago, I think And yeah, yeah, great movie bowfinger box office modest success wasn't huge, but Again has found the right cult audience in the meantime and contains two of the funniest scenes of all time Eddie Murphy running across a highway Through traffic in los angeles and a almost fully improvised scene where Eddie Murphy plays the his own twin brother and and gives a Audition interview to Steve Martin where he improvised almost all of it and it makes me cry laughing every time I watch it. So one of my favorite Eddie Murphy movies and One of my favorite Steve Martin movies and it's fucking great Uh One of the two 1999 box office duds for clared ains alongside the mod squad and a movie that forced her to apologize to an entire country Jonathan caplin's broke down palace starring clared ains Kate Beckinsdale bill paulman Limke tong Lou diamond phillips and in a small role paul walker um How about that? Yeah, so clared ains had to apologize to the the nation of manila Uh because in an interview in I believe premier magazine Yeah, uh, yes. Yeah So, uh, she is banned from the philippines And, uh, it's because she said in an interview about the movie that the country smelled like cockroaches with rats all over And there's no sewage system and the people do not have anything no arms, no legs, no eyes You know what that's that's a little extreme. I was like how bad could it be? That's Pretty bad. I don't think she meant that necessarily I think she was probably like very tired while giving this interview and like I don't know like probably, you know But just sort of like not really thinking straight sounds like but um, yeah I don't think she literally thinks people in manila like don't have eyes. I like I don't believe that that's true of clared ains Uh, but yes So she's had an interview and uh then had to apologize to the entire country But still can't go to the philippines to this day And that is the most notable thing about broke down palace a movie that again people really seem to love from this from this year and uh is is sort of like a um a sort of female version of like midnight express, I guess but Yeah, I don't know go back and watch that one at some point We have not covered it on the show. Uh, and then lastly Also on october the our august the 13th in uh a box office and critical failure at the time turned beloved cult classic the kiss centric Detroit rock city starring yes For a long sam huntington josephie andry's james de bello linschay millenie linsky girl at the moment and tasha leone big 1999 person uh, immanuel chiciri shannon tweed and the members of kiss Sounds like you're a detroit rock city fan tyler. Yes. My good buddy eric Uh, it was a big kiss fan him and his brother I maybe their dad turned them on to kiss but they were you know if they were listed a kiss as eight-year-olds like it's And for whatever reason we would have a sleepover, right? We would play Uh, play the dream cast or the playstation and then we throw a movie on and this was the movie one at night I loved it because I I knew a little bit of kiss and detroit rock city is one of the songs that I loved and uh I thought it was a fun movie again. Probably not something 12-year-olds should be watching but you know there weren't a ton of rules at the sleepovers. So Yeah, we enjoyed it. I I haven't watched it since then. I don't think but I room remember enjoying it Uh, I'm pretty sure I've seen it once. I don't think I've seen it since then. It's probably around I I'm sure I didn't I know I didn't see it in theaters. I'm I'm sure I probably saw it like on dvd within a year or two of it coming out I've never liked kiss But I was like this is an okay movie like it's fun like this is a cute movie And uh, but since then a lot of people that I know and love are like it's been so good So it's one of the ones that I've had on the back burner for this podcast Uh, you know that I'm looking forward to like rediscovering and seeing what I think of it But I'm worried that I'm gonna have like the wrong opinion. I'm sure it doesn't age well It probably doesn't but like I also like I want to love it But I don't know if that love if the love has to come from like some real nostalgia or some love of kiss or like somewhere else but Interested to find out. I don't know from what I remember I don't know if it's so much like you have to love kiss I think it's the idea of like being so into a band that you would like ruin your life to go see them live Yeah, sure. We got that. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah Yes, yeah, I'm interested to see what I think when I read it, but we will We will find out all right. Well, not much going on in the world of television or video games at the time But we have a couple of interesting stories in the world of music Namely one song that is starting to rise on the charts And we'll take over the world into your time. We'll get to that in a second New albums from alice and kraus g11 special sauce cool keith guided by voices and hot water music Notable singles on the billboard hot 100 include bills bills bills all-star If you had my love I want it that way last kiss by pearl jam and it's ninth week at number one genie in a bottle that song that would not go away in the summer of 1999 but the one that I want to draw some attention to Is new to the billboard top 100 chart in august coming in at number 63 and rising It would hit number three in november despite the single Having been released in april and that song is lubagas mambo number Now I didn't I haven't heard the first four uh mambo mambo's will I understand this one? If I haven't seen mambo's one through four lubaga of course the famous like I think italian senegalese uh german singer Uh, not a not even a little bit latin But like spicy spicy. He's like definitely a lot of cool ethnicities going on there Um, mama number five was apparently huge in france. It was like number one for like 20,000 weeks Uh in with the french so Good for it when I read this I was like that's interesting because I remember this this song didn't hit my radar until like Uh, I'm gonna say like october of that year so that it hit number three in november I remember going to like parties in the beginning of the year in college in 2000 when I would have been like a sophomore and This song suddenly being at all the parties i'm like what the fuck is this and and it just then it sort of took over It was not big in the summer of 99 but started sort of peeking out Uh in august i'm not really quite sure like what grove it's success because if you look at The billboard top 100 for this month There's a lot of songs that just like never heard of there's never went anywhere And they they made it to like number 12 13 14 or whatever But like no one's ever heard of them like they just sort of came and went and and this one is like this like snake in the grass in a few months uh You'll be hearing all about monica and Rita and their fucking rest of them. I think that was part of the novelty, right? It was like when when uh When you can find your name on a bottle of coke Clamoring, you know, like i remember Exactly. I remember being in school and it was like a badge of honor if you were in the song like if you're a girl A gessica whatever whoever Yes It's not it's a fun little thing Fucking girls in monica and jesica. We're like guys you gotta listen to the song So often For you A little bit of sandra in the sun Holy It's such a not it's it's you know It feels like it could only exist in that time. These kind of novelty songs, right? Yeah, yeah, these horns this stupid lyrics these you know Uh again novelty it could it feels like it could never exist outside of the late 90s, right? When you had all these other kind of songs, but I'm not gonna lie it comes on. I'm like, yeah, this is kind of a bottle Yes, sure Yeah, that was a lot of fun when it came out was a lot of fun I mean there's yeah and like you didn't know anything about this guy like there was no there's no like taint to it It was there was no like there's no reason to not like it. It was just sort of like this cool very sort of like earnest right like mambo song and Why the fuck not we're all we've all just gotten over swing dancing So like at this point, you know, it's like why not some other ancient form of dance that you know Uh from some guy we've never heard of but yeah, what a why a weird story I really want to hear like someone's got to do a podcast about like how mambo number five became a hit because I bet that's why not You john, why not you because I do I'm busy. I barely can keep up with this bullshit. All right Onto the real world. We're gonna start uh on august the fifth and on august the fifth Uh a guy named benjamin neton yahoo announces that he's retired politics after losing the israeli prime minister seat The previous month he accepts a position as a communications consultant And I assume he just quietly faded off into a low key private life After that never to be heard from again uh two famous retirees of 1999 benjamin neton yahoo and lem neeson Uh both retired from their respective careers never to be heard from again Didn't one of those guys uh do a genocide One of them did and one of them did 17 different variations have taken Hey, I love the gray. Okay, and he made it those Yes Taken with wolves is one of my favorite taken I I have to say the gray fucking rules Uh Also august the fifth st. louis slugger mark mcguire becomes only the 16th major league baseball player to reach the 500 run milestone while cheating as the cardinals lose 10 to 2 versus san diego At bush stadium. We all remember mark mcguire versus sammy sosa and mark mcguire hit in 900 jacks uh a year or whatever and then um, you know Turned out to be a big juicer and and we can have that conversation some other time Mark mcguire was a decent hitter who was on steroids. That's pretty much all he ever was Yeah, he was a When he made contact it would it would go and uh because he was on steroids You know not to get into the the weed. Yeah, not to get in the weeds about you know this steroid era, but like It's so interesting to look back at it now when we look at back at these guys with such disdain I'm like a big baseball fan and I love the history of the game, right? and You know that home run race saved baseball baseball was dying. No one gave a shit And then you get these two roided out monsters Hitting 65 70 home runs and people are back and now we look and it's like Don't put them in the hall of fame. It's like you can't have in both ways You got to say yeah, they cheated but everyone fucking cheated during that era and we encouraged it and it saved baseball so you know what we're gonna let them in we're gonna let Clemens in we're gonna let all those guys in because That the level playing field was that most dudes were doing it if you weren't you're probably in the minority. So So here's my thing right and I and I've had this conversation many times, but like, okay, I agree In general that we ought to think more sort of holistically about the steroid era and like what I'm not just right people off because of the steroids, right? Had Martin McGuire not been on steroids. He would have been a decent hitter and he would not have hit that many home runs Right and I and like does that make him a hall of fame or like to me? No, I like I don't I don't think Martin McGuire belongs in the hall of fame Um, do I think Barry bonds does? Yeah, probably but I think Roger Clemens does. Yes, because if you take away The steroids era of clemens. He's still if you just take the pre steroids clemens He's still one of the greatest pitchers of all time, right? And the reality is like not everybody was doing it and a lot of players were really good even without the steroids So like I I agree that we need to not just write off the steroids era as A thing that immediately anybody caught up in it needs to be banned from the hall That's bullshit, but I do think we can take a more nuanced approach and say like, okay Like is this person legitimately a good baseball player even without steroids? I think you can make that case in a lot of cases To me Martin McGuire is the one where I'm like actually no, like I don't think he's that could have a player Without juicing. Yeah, right? Same with how so hard to know With him when he really started. I know it really and he was huge and he was a monster So it's like Barry bonds. There's a clear. Oh, this is the season he started doing steroids because he was in Pittsburgh Scrawny dude, but he was stealing bases hitting doubles Like he was like a doubles guy and a steals guy with the occasional power And I think he looked at it and said, I'm a better hitter than all these guys Yeah, and then he was like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna hit a million home runs in a season And it's just gonna blow up the record book. So it's I agree with you. We need more of a fine tooth comb to say What is the innate ability here? And then what is an artificial kind of byproduct of performance enhancing drugs? And it's it's hard and it's it's hard to have the debate because it's a black eye on the sport But it's like you wouldn't have the sport without this so No, I agree. I like even I mean, I remember, you know, something that What was it? I think it's Bronson Arroyo I'm pretty sure it was Bronson Arroyo said at one point where he was like he was talking about like guys who got caught for for PEDs and he's like here's the thing like We we have trainers who just tell us to take supplements and we have no idea what's in them They like put creams on us that probably have steroids We just don't even know and like I just think a lot of these guys who were getting caught Like genuinely don't know that they're doing anything and and for sure. You know, I think I think there is You know, I think you look like uh look at a guy like, you know, ami Yankee fans. I'm a little biased anti-petit is A guy who says basically I use this to recover more quickly Right, I didn't use this to get an edge and again You can take it with a grain of salt because who knows what the actual intentions are But I do think there are guys who were again told this will get you back quicker than a traditional rehab, right? David Ortiz. Yeah. Yeah, exactly like you don't you don't again. You're not a medical professional You don't know what you're putting in your body You should but again, you're you're relying on The team physicians and the medical staff who are telling you, yeah, do this And and to only to find out later on like oh actually it was a banned substance So it's such a murky gray kind of area. It is and uh, it's a shame because you know, we have these All-time talents that are just tainted by this and who knows like they're all coming off the ballots for the hall of ames So they may end up there someday off of like the the veterans committee or whatever, but it's just It's tough because the sport was was in a really bad place and and due to these guys Becoming roided on monsters. It's it's thriving today. Well, I don't know thriving, but it's alive today Yeah, I mean, there's clearly a difference between someone like Raphael Pomerro and Mark McGuire and Sammy sosa Right like and and other like it's there's there's clearly a Spectrum here like with you know with people like any petri on it, but yeah Yeah, yeah, uh, anyway more require All right decent hitter But that's that's that's about it. But speaking of good hitters august 6 Tony Gwynne goes four for five and collects his 3000 MLB hit as san diego beats the expos remember them 12 to 10 at olympic stadium In montreal Tony Gwynne one of the best pure hitters in the history of baseball RIP Tony Gwynne Uh, and then august the seventh Tampa bay third baseman and notorious beer drinker wade bogs because the first MLB player to hit a home run for his 3000th hit in devil rays 15 to 10 loss to cleveland indians There's another good example wade bogs before he had his second run with the Tampa bay rays where he probably was doing Some substances to keep himself afloat into like his late thirties Uh is a guy who you do not need any of that to get him into the hall of fame just with his red socks to rear Right like that's all you need. Um for for wade bogs And I remember I remember the big controversy right because Tampa pretty much hired him as a mercenary to go all the fame as a devil ray Yep, and the MLB was like absolutely not You can't make a mark as a devil ray. You are a red sock Yeah, forever You can't just do that. You can't buy a guy to put your dumb logo on his hall of fame plaque and Any of this works Yeah, I grew up with wade bogs as a red socks fan Is like the weird lovable asshole and like, you know, who's just like fantastic to watch play But like just such a fucking weirdo What a fucking weirdo that guy is I mean, obviously as a Yankee fan I remember him on the horse after the 96 world series and I thought that was I loved that moment again. Not really knowing anything about him as a Teen girl. I thought that was so cool. It's like can I get on this horse and they just took a lap? So it's like the child like wanderer. Can I ride this horse right now? Uh, anyway, mcguire and guin and bogs. There's three 1990s baseball icons for yeah three days in a row August the ninth Uh, a scandal emerges as star trek actor william shatner returns someone to find his wife and they read kid laying dead in their backyard Swimming pole at the age of 40 and autopsy reveals that she overdosed on alcohol and diaza pam Of the former model and aspiring actress who had a two Had two drunk driving convictions and had been treated several times for alcoholism had a blood alcohol level of 0.27 More than three times the legal limit for driving according to an autopsy Released after her death there was a lot of tabloid speculation that william shatner had murdered his wife And all this other shit, but apparently no she just had a very bad drinking and substance abuse problem He was out of town. She died and he was uh broken over it apparently Uh, and the tabloids calling him a murderer didn't actually didn't actually help him too much, but Um, I remember that very well and uh, that fucking sucked. So yeah, that's it. That's a shame until like, you know You're grieving loss your wife is really troubled and you're like, yeah, but maybe you killed her Yeah, could you imagine really am shattered in your life? It's like but maybe you killed her Well, it's also clear that shatner's alcoholism and like his own alcohol problem got worse like after that as well and and yeah, it's a big fucking mess but yeah, that sucked and uh Fuck you the national inquirer and so forth and uh Whatever buck rakers Sucks speaking of shitty people august the ninth russian president bores yeltson fires his prime minister surrogates to passion Uh, and for the fourth time fires his entire cabinet He impoints f sb director of latimer poutin Ransan of the personal cook to vladimir lennon and two others as his new prime ministers and announces that he would support poutin to succeed him Uh, and again another guy who we just don't know what happened to you after that. Uh, obscurity Coincidentally poutins father of latimer poutins senior would die a few days later Um, so maybe that, uh impacted his mental state. I heard shatner killed him. Yes shatters Headers wife killed him and then killed herself out of shit. Yeah. That's murder suicide. That's all it's I mean Yeah, uh, so boy. Wow two of the shittiest people on earth had had a hell of an august 1999 it turns out one retired forever never to be heard from again and the other one got appointed to be the New one of one of three new prime ministers not quite sure how that worked And then, uh, we have not been able to get rid of him in the 25 years since, um But he sucks Anyway, august the 11th american rock group kiss speaking of kiss receive a star on the hollywood walk of fame and two days later the afra mention detroit rock city Uh, it's theaters. So good promotion It is. I am actually think that was intentional. I I vaguely remember this and then like tying in the premiere of detroit rock city into like them receiving the the star uh on the walk of fame, but There you go. All right, uh Up your alley august the 13th a whole bunch of people dress up in fanta menace costumes to a turn 10 the 32nd san diego comic con international San diego At the san diego convention center where I will be presenting in a couple months. I'll tell you more about that At some point, uh, yeah, I'll be at the san diego convention center presenting in november So there you go, uh guests for that comic con include mouse creator art spiegel and batman The animated series creators paldini and bruce tim composer and devo member mark mothers bah who also appeared in mystery men hellboy creator mark mcnola and Recently cancelled monster neil gameon. So cool What did he do you don't know about this? Are you not following the neil gameon story or are you just being sarcastic? No, I'm gen so here's the thing. I'm sure hather knows about it hather Was inspired to get into comics by san man so I hope she's aware because i'm sure she she knows Uh, and i'm sure you know again art not artist, but I have no idea. Um, i'm not well read. I'm barely literate So boy definitely don't know. Oh boy. Yeah. Oh boy. Oh boy It's uh It's pretty bad. Um Yeah, so neil gameon um It turns out like Lots of sexual assault allegations um coming out against him lately Uh, but just today also seems like he's like Involved in in in like prostitution That's a rage prostitution. Oh, oh no Yeah, it's bad. It's real bad. It's real bad. I mean look anybody who's married to a man to palmer Is a suspect person as as far as i'm concerned. This is like honestly among like I love neil gameon's work Um, but I had always kind of heard the rumors that he was like not someone You want to be left in a lot of room with? Uh But yeah, he's he's a few months ago. Um, a few women came forward with some allegations Someone who is close to him. Um, who who Did a thread on blue sky? Um, just today Uh, who who is sort of revealing some of the prostitution rumors, um, that she knows firsthand about Uh, it's bad. It's real bad. So anyway, never like anybody because they all suck Yes pretty much don't put your faith in anyone because everyone's a monster But the rest of that cruise sounds awesome Uh, we and we had like the you know, the typical the the Stan Lee's and so on and so forth Yeah, we're showing up to sign autographs and that sort of thing But um, I'd love to meet, you know, paul, uh, Paul D and him Bruce Tim I have not seen the new batman, they haven't been serious thing on on on I think it's on max That just came out. I think so. Yeah, I haven't checked it out either, but I've heard I've heard some good things Fantastic Yeah, my one body is a big uh batman the animated series guy and it's yeah Kevin conroy is not in this one, right? This is no. I don't think so. No. Yeah. Yeah. I think oh no It's uh, hey mich link later plays uh plays Bruce wing. Yeah, there's something that you know I'm such a like when I think batman. I think the animated series. I think Kevin conroy, right? Like Just that was in my wheelhouse. I remember getting home from school and that was on after dragon ball z Yeah, like that was my power hour right there Getting a drive ball z for the anime get the batman animated series. I just I was peak peak Television for a 10 year old, right? But uh, yeah, I've heard it's good, but I feel like it'd be so weird to watch and and know that it's not him Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just waiting for a time to like sit down by myself and and actually and actually digest it But uh everything about it screams up my alley. So I will uh I will be I will be back with my opinion on that at some point in the near future August the 13th the pentagon announces that us troops will receive more training on tolerance for lgbtq Uh people probably due to something that I talked about in the last episode which happened on july 6th was the murder of uh, i'm army private very winchill where he was murdered by a two of his his fellow soldiers Uh for being in a relationship with a transgender woman Uh, so this is like part of the beginning of the kind of unraveling of don't ask don't tell which is only a few years all at this point, but like the the There's a series of events uh starting in like 1999 going throughout the 2000s of um, the military struggling to like make this thing work and like continuing to like Figure out they just have to like treat people like human beings What a concept like that's easier, uh, and and this is one of them, but there there is available Uh, so they they they have a little pamphlet about how to like treat your what they call homosexual uh colleagues in like comic book form which you can look online and find and it's quite funny Um, I mean funny in that like sad like really this is for grown-ups kind of way, but um, yeah, it's pretty great Well, look how far we come at least we're still not debating these issues today. Exactly Everyone has rights now At least no one gets accused of being a transgender woman Even when they are just a cisgender woman who you just don't like the look of because you know, they could punch the shit out of you and definitely not Um, I hope imani kaleef gets jk rolling's castle and twitter. That's what I hope half I hope she cleans it when she gets it Assholes all right, we're gonna leave off with august the 14th We have a few bits of business to take care of here on august the 14th pewey reese Uh american baseball legend with the boston red socks and member of the net and will be hall of fame dies of lung cancer at the age of 81 Uh, so a little last little bit of baseball trivia there for you Uh, this was really interesting yard sale like it's 1989 prince then known as the artist formerly known as prince Holds a weekend yard sale at his paisley park studios with part of the proceeds going to benefit under privileged Youth now there's not a lot about this online, but if you go to The official prince website, uh, some prince fans have shared a fair memories of going to this yard sale Uh, the thing that seems to be overwhelmingly best remembered is that the line to get into it was like around several blocks Into fucking forever But there are some people who are like, yeah, but I got some like really fucking cool Like rare recordings on tape for like not very much money Uh, and then there was a bunch of like random like prince furniture that was like on god The expensive that they couldn't afford, uh, or whatever, but like there's no real news articles about this There is just a bunch of like random people being like, oh, yeah, I went to that That's probably only advertised in like the the the classified ads or whatever It's quite funny to read people's like vague memories of this thing Was he there was he just like, oh, yeah, that's 299. I don't think I don't think he was there Um, what's the point? Well, I so I know that a lot of this like I know that he was he this is of course like the reason why he went by the artist formerly known as prince is because he was in a dispute with his record label and I know there's a whole bunch of like Financial issues going on at the time needed to like liquidate stuff and I'm not sure like why he sold off all this shit And then gave the money to charity, but I think a lot of it had to do with like He was he was trying to not allow someone who was trying to claim part of his estate And was just being like fuck it. I'm just gonna like sell it and give it to charity. So you don't get it Uh, uh, uh, that sort of thing. So anyway, yeah, it's uh very little is known about this actual event, but um, There are there are breadcrumbs of it on the internet if you look fast enough I feel like that's a documentary that has to be made with all the streaming services Somebody has to just do a deep dive into this and come up with a witty title and give us the prince yard sale document yard sale Like an expose a story of the prince yard sale. Yes. Yeah Uh, I mean shit people have made podcasts and documentaries about dumber stuff. So Why the fuck now and they often able to turn it into something interesting somehow. All right Uh, two more pieces of Information and then we are we are we are wrapping up dilbert cartoonist and giant pile of shit scott adam's Is a new independent food product called the dilbert dil burrito? I'm not making this up a vegetarian frozen burrito that comes in four flavors mexican indian barbeque and garlic and herb Uh, it was discontinued in 2003 and what many considered to be the real 9/11 So By many, I mean Scott I caught me off guard. That was that was great Dilburrito, what a fucking weird piece of shit that guy Like somewhere in my memory. I've heard that or seen And i'm like, I wish I didn't remember it at all the actual like the actual boxes. I'm just fucking wild It's just like crazy fucking like vaguely mexican font with like dilbert I typed in, I typed in d i l b e and it was the second So this must be oh my god. It's so annoying Like early 2000s. It's beautiful. It's the worst Oh, every letter is a different color and and font different font This is bonkers. It's amazing It looks looks like fucking baby vomit. It just looks like the least appetizing thing you could ever fucking eat What this guy? Jesus christ Is the correlation to the the the comic strip like is he eating this shit at work? No, it's just what fucking scott adam's who's a weird motherfucker like this the shit that he likes And these you know Goddamn it There's a there's a youtube special about the dill burrito called worst food ever a question mark the suspicious history of the dill burritos so you can probably I'm sure lots of people have have spent a lot of time talking about the dill burrito Yeah, I also recommend if you if you haven't listened to it Uh, robert evans behind the bastards. He did like a three part on scott adam's and like what a fucking weird-ass dude that guy is uh Yeah, yeah giant fascist loser. So pretty much Wow Anyhow Dilbert, uh, and then lastly how do you segue from the dill burrito? Let's see. Let's see you do it ending This episode also on august the 14th of 1999 award eligible 1999 the podcast host john brooks turns 20 1999 I did it did it. I made it to 20 and then and then I had no idea what hell awaited me And he was also never heard from again Yeah, yeah 20th birthday. There you go. And uh, yeah, not much half an august 15th So we're gonna leave that one out and I don't care But second second half of august is pretty good, but uh, yeah, there you go That's the first half of august of 1999 Uh, great movies and some names cross the newswire that will become important later That is the understatement of the century My goodness, and by that I mean, of course Wade boggs and scott adam's yes clearly Wade boggs still shaping policy today, you know, yeah All right, so how do you feel in tyler? How is that how is that trip down memory lane? You know, it's it was a cool trip down memory lane, but it also reminds me how much I need to experience From this year still because even this month there's so many things when I got to check that or oh, I got to rewatch that And it's like wow. This is two weeks in august from the whole year So it just it really shows how much material there is uh for this year and uh I'm just glad to be on the only podcast to ever cover it the only one the only one allowed Yeah, yeah, we have we have copyrighted to the year No one's allowed to talk about it in any capacity and if you do you owe me like ten dollars. It's incredible incredible work. That's the law Uh anything you want to anything you want to you want to plug before we uh, plug Heather's stuff Always Heather is a lovely artist in her own right and uh fabulous comic book editor at IDW handling the star trek line uh, so give her a follow on Twitter i'm not calling it x because twitter nope we never do it's show policy to not call it's the only thing we dead name is I will dead name that uh Forever Um, she is at heather anthos on instagram and twitter. She also has her art account on instagram at heather artos uh, and i'm on social media as oh that tyler so come check me out for all the reposting of of dank leftis memes Uh, if you're interested in going to san diego in november My other other show poddling knows, uh with kelly j baker We are going to be appearing at the american academy of religions annual meeting at the san diego convention center Uh on november the 25th. We'll be talking about religion podcasting Um, you know that other thing i do what i'm not doing this show So this was the religious one. No, this is the non. Yeah, no, this is the second. Oh, this is the movie and other stuff. Oh, shit Well, it's a religion to me You know, yeah, uh, that's awesome and congrats. That's yeah, it's gonna be fun It's gonna be fun looking forward. I just bought my plane tickets out there So, um, yeah if you live in that in that part of the that part of the world Come come see us and and and stuff Uh, you can email us here at Show on social media and podcast on all of the different social media stuff and uh, we'll be back in a few days actually to Uh, look at good stuff in 99. That's going to be a home one Um, and we'll be back to covering movies in the near future Um, so stay tuned for more updates as far as that goes. In the meantime, tyler It's been a pleasure as always. Thank you so much for joining this game. 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