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Walmart Plus members save on this plus so much more. Start a 30-day free trial at walmartplus.com. Paramount Plus is central plan only, separate registration required, see Walmart Plus turns and conditions. Dude, that's smiley coffin for 61, wow! I'm smiley coffin and this is the smiley show. Welcome back to the smiley show and man, good to see smiley coffin's face. State side once again, I'm Charlie Hume, I was recently back from a Scotland golf trip, he is more recently back from an Ireland golf trip and I am fired up for the episode that is dropping on Wednesday smiley because not only is it going to be an Ireland golf trip recap, it's the guys you're doing it with, Justin Thomas and Jordan Spieth hop on the show once again for a very unique one-of-a-kind golf trip recap like this is going to be amazing stuff. It sure will be and as it stands right now, it's almost 8 p.m. here's Central Time in Birmingham. To the last three nights, I think I've gone to bed at like 7 to 45 so we're entering the candlelight hours here for me so bear with me if I just fall over at 8.30 in the middle of this but yeah, no, I got some of the boys joining like you said, J.T. and Jordan are going to come on and talk a little bit about the trip but man, it was epic. We had a great time, Ireland weather from what I was told could be really poor but we got like some of the best weather compared to where I was ever in true in the week before. So huge win, awesome trip, can't wait to recap at all but I think we got a good episode coming up. I think we got a lot of fun stuff to talk about. We do have a good episode because we have, of course, we're going to recap the three am open. Johnny Vegas gets a win for the first time in a long time so cool seeing a guy like that, you know, sort of a long shot to open the tournament get it done. We're going to recap that. We have a couple of things that feel like topics we need to sort of revisit, things that we've been talking about all year long, we've been kind of checking in on and topics that it's worth kind of bringing back together in a week like this that sort of in between major season but heading into FedEx Cup playoff season. So we're going to talk a little bit about just that signature event, the composition of the points that are being handed out there and kind of look at some sections of that list to see how guys are doing relative to, you know, the events that they're qualified into. We're going to talk a little bit about the Scotty Scheffler and Xander Schopfley player of the year race because that one is heating up a little bit and we're going to dig into a little bit of looking at the PGA tour schedule compared to the live schedule as we had, you know, a week where John Ron wins his first event on live against the three and open. The field is maybe a little bit lighter than before. So all stuff we're going to dig into, but let's start there with a win for Johnny Vegas. And this is a guy that went from 149th on the FedEx Cup list to up to 66. That's an 83 spot jump and right behind him too, Max Grazerman goes from from 88th up to 63rd. So those are two guys that big weeks, big weeks, big weeks, listen, I've been the guy that I've been banging the drum all summer long. I thought it was going to be the summer of Matt McNeely. I've had some near misses. How am I going from 68th up to 57th feels like good little week at the window. He should be in there. I'm happy to see math up there. What were your takeaways from from Johnny Vegas's win at TPC twin cities? My takeaway, just the field man, it just wasn't doing it for me. The backup on the 18th just felt like the tournament was never going to end. I feel like if there was a playoff, I probably would have turned it off. I just was overwatch and it was nothing against the broadcast. It just was, they just couldn't get this thing to the finish line. The names, there wasn't any like great shots being played over the last, you know, hour or so that I was watching. I don't know, man, the field just right after an open championship. It totally was lacking some firepower, which, you know, I think in some of these events like this year, like, for instance, like a Honda or a John Deere rocket mortgage, I've found, you know, that I've enjoyed watching those weeks. But for whatever reason this week, I, I just was not, just not feeling up to it. And I imagine that I'm not the only one though. I, I, how am I going to put this? I don't disagree with you. It was a tough scene looking at some of the name. In fact, this is no better encapsulated than sitting, watching the end of this tournament with my wife and son on her couch, and she's, I think we're, this is like the 18th hole, you know, Johnny Vegas is on the tee. She's like, I don't know who any of these guys are, like, you're not the only one, Amanda. But, and, and, but kind of to your point though, like there have been tournaments we've seen a lot of different ones dating him back to last year. How about a tournament you were at at the Sanderson farms? I guess Ludwig was in the mix there, but just like a, a ton of guys coming to the finish, many of whom you don't know, but a lot of exciting young players and storylines that could develop. And guys, you'll end up falling down the road where there was some sort of juice there. I think maybe it was just the way that it finished. Like Max Grazerman earned it today, your shot eight under par was right there. It looked like he might get into a playoff, you know, Johnny Vegas scraped his way to a one on a round today to win by a shot. But we had a lot of big left misses off the tee. Wasn't like one. Yeah. It wasn't, I'd say maybe the most intriguing storyline out of kind of that, that final group was. Matt McNeil. I think at one point it only hit like seven or eight greens and was just like scrambling his face off to stay in competition this week. But yeah, I mean, I think that's maybe it's some of these lower profile events. You want to see sort of an exciting finish and a guy go out and get it and make a name for himself is for, you know, for the first time. And we had some names there that could have gotten it done like to hit the goal was kind of having the mix at the end and it just kind of sputters out a little bit. Nothing, nothing happened at the end of this, like the last hour that you watch, all you watched were players misreading pots, like by a pretty large amount. And then just guys not being able to hit it anywhere near the pin. And I've played this golf course, but when it's windy, like it is, I mean, the greens look relatively soft, but still it just there was like hardly any just epic golf played down the stretch. It just felt like there was down down however long, the last hour, however long you're watching. It just there was no juice in it. Yeah. I mean, there's like this pool events that they're always like a fun kind of mid-summer watch where you sometimes you get the fireworks, but they can't all have fireworks. Like I pull this one in with, you know, the John Deere, the rocket mortgage, where it's in and around major golf and around signature event golf. And you just look, you can't, they can't all pan out to give you cool names or young names at the top of the leaderboard. Now, it just, it just was one of those weeks, but we do, I mean, we have Olympic golf coming up, which should be interesting. We also had to figure out how we're going to award one of done points for Olympic golf. That's like, we have to decide, we have to decide points to medals. Is Johnny Vegas playing for Venezuela and that like, I don't, I mean, look to the field for that. But as you, as you do a little typing, I'll give my just general thoughts about Johnny Vegas for those that don't know his game, what he's like, nicest guy in the world. When you meet him in person and you're standing next to him, he's a type of guy that you're like, man, you could have played whatever sport you wanted to play. You could have played guys, you could have played linebacker. The guy's huge. And I played with him in Columbus one year at the web.com tour championship. And we were paired together. I don't know what round it was. But I remember on the 11th hole, I'm sitting there watching him tee off and his first time I played with him. And just the sound that his ball made and just you could almost hear him pushing off the ground, but his feet were stuck to the ground like this guy is an epic hitter of the golf ball. And if you go look at his stats throughout his entire career, guys been in just an elite ball striker, just puts it right down the middle of the fairway, hits it hard. And if anything, if you criticize any part of his game and why he hasn't been more successful, it's been the wedges and putting that's kind of always been his bug a boo. But he's been a great ball striker, which for the most part, when you look at PGA tour and guys that have been out there a really long time, most of the time, those are the guys that hit it pretty dang good, because most of the time the putters and the really good chippers have bad years. And guess what? When you're hitting it bad, you're going to play your way off the tour. But Johnny Vegas, that he's been a mainstay on the PGA tour and you look at his stats, like I said, and he's seventh this year, strokes gained off the tee and actually green, green and regulation percentage show he's number two. But the one that I thought was the most interesting, which turned out to be the reason why he won the 3M was the seven iron he hooks left to the very far left side of the green and you're like, Oh boy, this just seems like three putt central, but he's actually leading the tour this year in approach pot distance, like from the whole. Interesting. Yeah. So he's, uh, he's first in that category. So I mean, there you go. The lag that he hit, both he and Grayserman from very similar locations on the 18th green at TBC Twin, Twin Cities hit amazing pots to lead themselves. I think Graysman's might have ended up a little bit closer, but you know, it was a relative gimme for Johnny Vegas to make that, that birdie and win by shot. Uh, yeah, the guy is somehow not in the Olympic field. Don't ask me about how the, I don't know how like where the cutoff is on no clue on, um, like what nations get a guy or what, who that, who does it. I don't know if there's a less or how it works, but I feel like I'm just going to see the field next week. Oh, okay. This works. The field and there are a lot of names I know and there are a lot of names where I'm like, I, I don't think I've ever seen you. How many guys do they got? I mean, it looks like it's, uh, let's see here, uh, I'm going to guess around a hundred. Uh, that seems about right. Maybe a little bit less than, yeah, I mean, somewhere in that neighborhood, we'll have to go over that. We'll have to get a full download. Yeah, we'll get into that next week. Yeah. But I mean, Johnny, I mean, guys, six, three, two, 30 turns 40 and a couple of weeks here. Three, two, three, I mean, of duties of Tony, when he shake this guy's hand, he's got some mitts on him. It is, it is impressive to watch this guy hit the golf ball. Um, but when you look at, did it come out of nowhere? I mean, I think you could have made a case, uh, coming into the week. If you just said, um, hey, this is going to come out of nowhere, but I actually like Johnny Vegas this week and you just said, you know what I like? I like that he's finished top 30 in his last three weeks. This is a ball striking golf course. If the wind blows, which it's projected to blow, uh, he's a guy that might be able to hit a lot of fairways, drives it straight, hits all the greens. Now, can he get a hot putter, uh, seems so that he actually had a nice putting week. So that's why I like Johnny Vegas this week. Charlie, if you just said that, that would have made for one hell of a clip. That would have. We can, we can, uh, back date that, Jackson do his magic and premiere and make us look really, really smart. Boy, we need a little reverse magic on our one at Unpix this week is, uh, dude, that's bull crap. What happened to me with, uh, Thor Bjornson, he finished shoots five under on Thursday. Yeah. And, and you're he's in T five and I, I was listening to Sirius XM driving down the road and they were projecting that like Friday afternoon, the winds were going to be really bad. I'm like, God, wake my guy's team off at two p.m. Shoot six over misses the cut. I mean, this is bull crap and actually before we hopped on, I wanted to see, uh, of, of the late early wave, which was the better wave, how many of those guys were inside the top 10 and actually it, it went to, let's see, it went to, it went to 11 guys. So 11 guys in the top 10. So, um, there was seven, seven of the 11 were in the late early draw and tell see for a guy Thor. Vegas, Johnny Vegas, Max Grazerman, Matt Kuchar, Maverick McNeely, all four of those guys from the late early. Yeah. I mean, look, you hate to say it cause those guys all earn their way there. But guys, you don't normally see near the top of the leaderboard. Maybe a little bit of a boost for the draw this week. So, uh, you want to name him? You want to name him? Yes. I'll give it to Patrick Fishburn. That's my guy though. Nope. No, no Patrick Fishburn slander on this pod. Okay. All right. You just carry a tour pro and partner. She's kind of teed me up man, he teed me up and I'm a little upset too that Kurt Kitihama was actually a guy I liked this week. And unfortunately, uh, I went to Dublin and I kind of forgot about all the guys I liked that I'm warning. It was just like, uh, who do I like? And so I pushed out and probably done, um, a little better for all the viewers, but also Thor and Bjornsson was supposed to win this week. It was supposed to be his week to win. It felt like it, uh, Harry Hall, I'll try to do a little, little backdoor top 20 situation for me. It felt like he was, he was moving up a little bit on, uh, Sunday burns, he go to 18, didn't he? He did, but he, I think he, he doubled or triple 10. He had, he had a bunch of big numbers out of nowhere. I'm guaranteed. You take his big numbers away. He wins by four probably. Oh yeah. No, without a doubt. Yeah. But that's what I told you. I just, he had just some, just some issues with some drivers. Like just a little laughs, a little right, but when he hit it good, it was great. Yeah. It's interesting. If you look at his strokes game profile, yeah, I mean, he's slightly positive off the tee, but I think it's probably, he had some really good ones and he had some really bad ones and it kind of came out in the wash. Maybe so. Yeah. So, uh, I mean, the three, the three M's behind us. I think you've done almost, uh, 14 minutes on the three M at this point and that feels like enough minutes on the three M where I think it makes sense to go next is this, something you and I have been tracking a little bit, just the, the, obviously this week was not a signature event, but just as we approach, you know, the window and then of course, the FedEx cup playoffs following that is, is the signature event category, the guys playing out of that category this year, um, and how many points they earn in those events relative to the guys and around them who did not play in the majority of those events unless they played their way in through the swing five category or next 10 category or they were a tournament winner or a number of different ways they could have played their way in without being part of that top 50 list from the 2023 FedEx cup, uh, playoffs. And so the guy that's been sort of our, our bell weather all year long has been memory a guy that we want to see playing these events and who actually did play in one event. He swing five his way into the Arnold Palmer Invitational, but that was the only one he played in. And so looking at memory and we got a little spreadsheet here that we pulled up together and just a couple of guys, I took the four guys behind him in the, in the current FedEx cup standings and the, and the four guys above him in the current FedEx cup standings that qualified through signature events through last year's standings. And I know that that's, I know that that's a little convoluted, but just, no, no, I got to give you an example. Like I have Brendan Todd currently 69th, shameless power 68th, Emiliano Greylo 67th and Jordan speed 60 second who all were in the top 50 category last year, men woo is 61st. And then above him, I'm looking at Taylor more 58. Can you share the screen? Are you able to share your screen? You know what? I guess I could share the screen. Well, I mean, if you're watching, it might as well be able to just see what you're talking about. Might as well do it. Yeah. Cause I got, I got it pulled out. Yeah. So, so, and then above men wooly, we have Taylor Moore, Victor, Hovland, Eric Cole and Justin Rose and Taylor 58th, Victor 55th, Eric 54th and Justin 52nd. And so looking at their, their points that they've earned this season, but then looking at the percentage of the points they've earned that are from signature events. And it's actually, this is an interesting disparity. So starting with Justin Rose, he's earned 23.51% of his points through signature events. Eric Cole, little north of 61%, Victor, Hovland, about 57%, Taylor Moore, about 21%, men wooly as mentioned 2%, Jordan speed, 61%, Emiliano Grilo, 60, almost 62%, Seamus power 83% and Brendan Todd, 56%. Just first reaction to this list, Smiley. Is there anything that like surprised you here jumps out to you, just feel about right? Well, I think the, the one that jumps out would be, okay, who's, who's kind of, you know, if you, if it's a normal PGA tour year where we didn't have signature events, let's, let's take us back however many years ago where 500 points was normal. Everybody kind of had the same points distribution, distribution was a similar playing field. We didn't have, you know, just the skewed system that it is now. And who would be struggling in that system versus in this year, like being able to potentially play their way into the playoffs. And I think, I mean, when you see the percentage of total points at 83.24%, Seamus power sticks out like a sore thumb, right? And on the other side of it, this is how we got into the, into this discussion was, mid wooly was never granted any opportunities to play in any signature events this year. And just playing in one, you know, 2.0, 2.06% of his points were from signature events. And you go and look at how many points were available in those signature events and that he only got to play in one. He could always use a thing, play better, but also men woo to me seems like he's in the category of a guy like you want to see this guy in these, in these events. So if you say, look at a guy, say, Hey, you got screwed this year. Moon Wooley is that guy who's been lucky to be like, still in the bubble contention to be in the playoffs. You look at James power, guys that are kind of a little surprising to me. I think Taylor Moore would be a guy. I think he's not played up to his capabilities clearly and in signature events. I think we both, we both see his game and we see a lot of talent and ability, but hasn't been able to quite play up to the standard in which maybe he's set for himself and then maybe we see for him as well. But yeah, I, I, that's what I kind of see. I think Justin Rose, it's a little skewed, obviously with this as being a PGA tour list. And we're excluding the majors from the point. So you see Justin Rose, only 23%, but really, you know, you could kind of look at Justin Rose and after this season be like, man, what do you remember about Justin Rose? The season's like, well, he played amazing at the open championship, earned a ton of points for that during for the FedEx Cup. So that's kind of my takeaway. I don't, what else you got? What do you think? So, and I've broken these out kind of page by page for each of these guys we've talking about and, and, and shameless power. Let's start with him. Cause this is just so interesting to me. So 83%, whatever we said, 82% of his points are from signature events, right? But look at his list of finish in these events. So he played it in all, let's see, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight signature events he played in. And so, and we're, of course, just so people know as well for people who aren't watching along on YouTube, we're, we're not including majors, we're not including the players championship. These are just strictly the PGA tours, sanctioned events, the fall and the signature category. So here is finishes century T 50, 18 T pro am T 31, Genesis T 31, Arnold Palmer Invitational T 21, RBC heritage T 12, Wells Fargo T 16, Memorial T 27, Travelers T 20. So this isn't necessarily like an earth shattering year, right? Like no one's like, I mean, you didn't play bad as worst finish was tied for 50th. It's a pretty, that's not that bad. It's not, it's not that bad, but I guess the question that we'd be asking then is, you know, is not that bad worth 561 points and have you sitting inside the top 70 line and making it into the playoffs? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if I'm, look, disclaimer, not a statistician, there are probably a lot of people out there who are a lot smarter than me who are just like yelling at their screen right now. I'd be like, you're so dumb. This is how this thing's supposed to work. But to me, it's, if you look at a guy where he's playing that type of golf and he's earning 82% of his points via these tournaments, I don't know, like it's, it, it does he deserve to be 60, you know, 68th on that list perhaps, but it's a little bit of a head scratcher to me, you know, and, and so that that's on one end of the spectrum. And then if you look at, you mentioned a guy like Taylor Moore. So Taylor Moore is only earned 21% of his points through, through these events. He's earned 796 points total and 166 through these signature events. And so, you know, he's finished, finished T 25 this century, T 47 at the AT&T program, T 31 of the Genesis, T 48, the API, T 58, the RBC heritage, T 38, the Wells Fargo championship, missed the cut of the memorial and T 68, the travelers. So to your point, like, you know, has not played up to his standards in these events. And but he's still scraped 166 points for them. And, and, you know, again, I think he's still played good the rest of the year, right? Like 100%. And so that one is, is the question I ask in my mind, not knowing if it's right or wrong, is like, is it, is, is the inflation for those finishes relative to their position in the field versus a regular points event, enough to keep him in and around that top 70 sort of cut off, like it has, he earned enough there to where his 58, if it was coming from regular events would be closer to a 70 year on the wrong side of it. I mean, we could calculate out this math and kind of try to, you know, make better sense of this. But that's just the first question that comes in my head when I'm looking at these lists, this list. And I'm looking at the outliers on either side. Dogs are an important part of our lives. And keeping them protected is a top priority, especially against nasty parasites. That's why you got to check out next guard plus a fox liner, moxidectin and pyarantal chewable tablets. These guard plus chews provide one and done monthly protection that kills fleas and ticks, prevents heartworm disease, plus it treats and controls roundworms and hookworms. That's a whole lot of protection packed into a delicious beef flavored, soft chew designed to make monthly dosing easy and enjoyable. So the next time you're at the vet, ask about next guard plus chews. They're the one and done monthly parasite protection you want for your dog. Use with caution in dogs with a history of seizures or neurologic disorders. This should be tested for existing heartworm infection prior to starting a preventive. 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And then we have all these other PGA tour events, like we just recap the 3M and shoot, like when we do, we look at our numbers for the show. I just don't think people really care quite as much about the events because all the top guys aren't playing. Now if we had, you know, a really nice field for some open field events, I think people would really listen and care more because they know the players and they can relate to them because they've watched them for years. So right now, I just, and I know I'm not trying to get into a full debate on what they need to do, but it seems like to me that if it's, there's about 10 guys that you can pick out. Minwooly just happens to be one that we picked out. I think you could go and find a handful more where you're like, man, Keith Mitchell, not very McNeely, Billy Horshel, these are kind of the group of players that have had really nice years that maybe haven't been getting into signature events, that if they would have been getting into all the signature events, so let's say instead of 70 guys, let's say there's 80 or let's say there's 90 and let's say that's their schedule for the year. That's all they play just against each other all year. That seems to me the way to go and then have a bigger corn fairy tour that has, you know, the John Deere type events and that to me, it makes it more clear to the players, but also it doesn't confuse the fans either because they know what they're watching. They can't say and look at names in the leaderboard and be like, wait, that's just not the PGA tour that I grew up watching and not knowing leaderboards, right? Yeah, it's an interesting one because it's like we're evolving this conversation a little bit to kind of reflect on the 3M and, you know, I mean, of course there is, you know, a part of this is related to signature events, but it's almost, I think the thing we said pretty consistently is you've stratified this tour without like telling us you're stratifying it. And of course, we can watch and know that it's stratified like we can watch the 3M this week and say that is not like a PGA tour event doesn't feel like it's PGA tour quality. Yeah, and I think it's fine if it's sold as such and I get that there are realities of us where it's like you're not going to, you're not going to, you know, call the good events, the signature events and then call the other ones like the, these are the bad events. Don't watch them. Like, you know, you have to market the league, you have to do things around this to get people watched. I get that, but I just, I think the thing we're learning through this whole process is, you know, and this is, and this is why I give the tour a grace on this for sure is like, this is, it has to be an information gathering period. There's been a level of disruption, the sport that has created some good things, some cool things. I think that the live has played an XFL style role in comparison to the NFL where it's doing things that are now being adopted and brought to the PGA tour and making that product better. But part of that process is going to be a little bit of information gathering and trying to figure out how do we evolve this league to make it more compelling so that it's, you know, whatever the goal is, like just to take into the next iteration of modernity. And I think that, that it's a little bit like I like, I like where we're going with the signature events. If you kind of just fully take us there and say, yeah, there's this strata of tier strata of the tour and then there's a lower strata of this tour and we're not going to make this one have inflated purses and do all this sort of stuff that's just, it's clearly not that. We're, and we're, we're fans of golf, we're fans of all the events. I'm not just somebody that only watches watching the top field events. Like I love watching, like even today, even though I'm, I've said it, it wasn't as interesting, it doesn't mean I didn't love watching it. I love watching guys careers change because I know exactly what it feels like to not be a top player. I've, I've felt it for a minute, but for the most part, I was always for, hey, the more the merrier. So when I was playing, that's where I stood on everything. But the more I've been in the TV side, it's just the tour can't feel good about where they sit right now with their, their TV partners for instance this week and go to their sponsors and be, you know, hey, 3m what's, you know, you paid us $8 million last year, but we actually need to up it to 10. It's like, what, it just does, it doesn't reflect and unfortunately they're forced to do, do it a little bit because of, of live golf tour and how much money these players are, are making and trying to keep players on the PGA tour. But, you know, I don't know, I, I just, you just have to wonder how, how the guys inside the offices of the PGA tour are feeling about the events that they've kind of just said, hey, hopefully you get a field, you know, like we're going to put you after the opening. Good luck. Well, you know, what's interesting to me on this one is we talked a lot about this, you know, this SSG investment, the tour. And I think at the time you're getting quotes from guys who are well spoken and, and well thought like Max Homa, who we're talking about, hey, we're going to need to take, you know, more risks in, in, in making this product something new and unique and allow more access and get more creative and how we're presenting this thing. I think that's a true statement, but I actually think it applies to not the premier product. Like I think that if you're, if you're talking about any primo sport where you want to see the top of the top play, of course, you can dress that up with, with graphics and, and you know, do kind of, you know, insider coverage and things like that and people are going to eat that type of stuff up is going to rate well. But I think that by and large, if you're like, hey, we're getting the band back together, it's going to be all the elite guys from live. It's going to be the best for the PGA tour. They're going to come together, you know, there's going to be the majors and there's going to be X amount of these other platinum tour events. Like people are pretty much going to sign up to watch that regardless. I think you could get really creative with the second tier tour of just look, look around you and look at the, the audiences, the demographics, the way they're consuming golf now, the way that's changed and like YouTube content creators, like, I think we saw it almost on the other side of it where they had those guys play in that qualifier to play into the Myrtle Beach event, right? Like, I think it's flipped. Like, I would try to be presenting some of these lower tours closer to the way people consume YouTube golf. Now it's easy for me to just throw that idea out and not, you know, have step-by-step execution of what that looks like. But I think that could be an information gathering process too of like, let's find a way to get creative with how we're attracting new audiences and catering to people and the way those things get sold and things like that because that's where I think you can cater to the hardos like us, the sickos that are just like, let me watch live golf and I don't care, you know, I'm going to be interested in basically all of it. But also like a newer sort of fan attracting new eyeballs and any people interested in this game from a different sort of level. I'd try to be really intrigued of, you know, revolutionizing whatever that media product looks like. Yeah, totally. I think the biggest issue you're going to run into is like, if it's a relegation type system which we've always had, which is shuffling of cards, you're in and you're out competing for a limited amount of cards, so let's say you cut it to 80 or 90 cards, you know, how many cards are you saying are safe? You know, if you're saying 70 cards are safe and 20 guys got to go down a tour, you know, 20 cards for the rest of professional golf is not many cards, right? Like we're talking about we're shrinking from 125 down to 70, which is a very big jump as far as just how many good golfers there are in the world right now compared to, let's say it was a couple decades ago is probably, you know, just the talent pool is just shrinking as far as just how good everybody really is. It's just is getting tougher and tougher because I think that TV players are realizing that, hey, we have a rival tour, we can't just roll out the same product and expect that not changing is going to help. So all going to be interesting, I hope they make big radical changes versus just rolling out a similar method that they've had over how many years, which is just yeah, I don't know. I'm a big, big fan of going to good venues, going to big cities, going where the juice is. What's, what's not screw, what's, what's not ever think is, it's not that difficult. I think you make a good point there too of like, I think it's very easy to critique without offering suggestions. I think the one thing that, you know, as people talk about shrinking, shrinking, shrinking is think about how many good young players have come up from some of these feeder systems. And are we allowed opportunities for those guys in creating a new system? Like there has to be a, not a, not a fake we're paying lip service to, there has to be a real pathway for young town to come up because even, even look at us now, like, and I know people say the cream rise of the crop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like guys like Lou Clanton, Michael Thorbjørenson, you know, Jackson Coiven, you know, even like the Nick Dunlaps of the world who are now on tour need pathways to play themselves into comfort level at these, at these, you know, in these big tournaments. And if I had a way to be like, okay, this guy has a chance to legit make it at the next level. And maybe some guys, I mean, even like Davis Thompson was didn't like, you know, jump right out of the blocks. You know what I mean? Like he's a guy that took a little bit of time to get comfortable on tour. And now he's a tour winner. He's got, you know, an amazingly solid game, looks like a guy that's going to be around for a number of years. And there needs to be a way to help nurture that guy and help that guy grow and make sure that he gets a chance to make it while also saying, yeah, we understand the reality of a television product. We understand that we need to have names that attract and names that sell to get people to pay for this whole thing. So otherwise it ain't going to pencil. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's, yeah, the whole, because I do believe in that I do believe that there should be a cut every week. I think that's part of professional golf. I don't want it to be 70 dudes, no mimics a cut because then it's you're becoming way too much like live golf in which, you know, I think we've, we've been, you know, very vocal and been very tough on just, hey, if you're not having to make a cut, it's, it's just not, it just doesn't, it just doesn't do it for me, right? Like when you're watching, you know, these guys, it just, they don't, I mean, just look at a lot of guys really, you know, like Dustin Johnson being a guy that goes over there and just feels like it's just not the same guy he used to be. I mean, I think it has a lot to do with just not working at it. I just don't want the tour to turn into guys being comfortable. I think professional sports should all be about, you know, got to earn, earn what you get and the PGA tours always been that way. So I, I like, I want the PGA tour to be a healthy environment to where guys can come up, come down, but young guys, like you just mentioned with Luke, Quinn, Nick Dunlap, that they have a legit avenue now they've created pathways, but a legit avenue to where they actually can play their way on to the tour to where they have actual opportunities instead of like Nick Dunlap, when's the MX, it's like, oh, now you're on tour, you have no points, but here it goes. Start. Guess what he's had to do. He's had to claw his ass off this year to even have a chance to make the playoffs or he be in the exact same position that a guy like Akshay Batilla was in last year, which is a guy that misses the playoffs, not in the signature events and has to go and just continue to prove himself that he's worthy to be in these events. And we know that Akshay was good enough and the system didn't allow him to be playing in the big events because he didn't earn the points, which is just, the whole thing was stupid. And same with Nick Dunlap, who's, if you go look at his, his position on the FedEx copy wins the 300 points at the bar, the Barracuda, now he's, now he's in the top 70, but he's still not safe. Yeah. It's, it's interesting in compiling the research for the signature event piece, the amount of guys in that category we're looking at who did miss a cut in the signature events, like they are sure they're free points to a certain extent, but they're like not fully free. And you compare that to a lab ecosystem and it's even interesting just, you know, talking about this week about, you know, that these major governing bodies are making more and more of an effort to get these guys, you know, guaranteed spots into the, into these majors, which I think is ultimately a good thing. I mean, we've said it every single major, I think now that we miss a lot of these live guys, you know, especially a guy like Bryson, the Rom one this week, man. Like, I mean, it's, it's, we, it's just how do you find a fair way to get them there? And that's, and ultimately, I think that's a place I come back to is what is fair anymore anyways. It's like we've had this disrupting force in this game, you know, this influx of money, this newly, and it's part of us has to just kind of let a piece of what was die and live in the past. And this is, it's a new reality. And how do we make the most fair setup going forward from there? Like where it's a combination of the merit based system as golf has always been while acknowledging for realities of superstar power and where money's coming from. And that's just the way it is. Like, you know, listen, we'd all love it if it was just this perfect system that made everyone feel happy and good about it. But you also got to be just realistic about it, you know, and just how is the next professional iteration of this game going to look exactly? How do you keep it healthy and surviving? Because if it gets torn apart, then nobody wins. Well, before we've got players of mainly top players felt like there were too many cards to begin with. So 125 was always been the number that we, that was the number you had to be under every single year. And players still felt like that was too much. They felt like 100 was a better number. And this is before we live golf. So they take, you know, 40 some players. Now we're really, it really should be a little tighter and which is why we're at 70 to make the playoffs, which makes sense. But we go and play this FedEx Cup fall and if you say inside the 125, you still keep your card. It's just, there's, there's too many cards. It's to the system in the fall makes zero sense to me. I have to understand it, but it doesn't mean it makes sense. I feel like the season should be over the tour championship. And then those who did make it are, are secure for the next year, but those that didn't, they start their journey, the FedEx Cup in January, or they either on the PGA tour or they're on the Cordfairy tour. And it just seems way simpler to me that way. Yeah. I mean, I'll say this, you know, and you might have additional thoughts, but for me, this is kind of where I arrive on this whole thing is, you know, there are definitely their parts but that don't make sense to me. There are definitely parts of it where I feel like the, it's always sunny, Charlie Day meme, where I've got like all the yarn behind me and I'm trying to like connect what the Aeon swing five, how that, you know, connects to this, just in this category, like what, you know, what's going on here. But with that said, I get that this is, I get that we're still information gathering, like maybe happening at a slower rate than we would all prefer and like. And that's probably the tour included. And you said this all along and I, I'm the same place of you is like, I really hope we see something soon, like 2025 that is a legit, like we've, we've taken all that testing and this is the new program and we really feel good about this. Yeah. It starts with this list, right? It starts with Scott, that to eligibility to me is one of the biggest things of how many guys play in an event, how many cards are available. The, the schedule for the year, I don't think you're going to see a huge blow ups in that. Like, I don't think we're going to see on the schedule in 2025, like Pine Valley, you know, like, or Cyber's point, right? Like, I, like, listen, that's, that's the blow up we all want. But I think if you get the eligibility right, if you get how many players are playing in, in the signature event, correct. And then you also somehow mix in two or three more locations in the country that we're missing. Like just ones that, that bring the juice, Chicago, New York, LA, I mean, Boston, these are all just huge markets. And then look at it. Where live has been able to capitalize? Nashville was a huge, huge hit. Now is there a golf course there in Nashville that, that's PGA two or worthy? Maybe there's, maybe there is an Austin, we've, that's been a great event for years that unfortunately we left that town. So there's just these amazing, amazing cities that, that, that love to watch golf that we, I feel like are really poor about going to not very fun places at times or where you're just black, even, even though there's, there is a little bit of juice on a Sunday, it's still not the same as going to a, a Phoenix or Scottsdale, which is one of our best events of the year that we need more events, not necessarily like Scottsdale, but in that avenue of that demographic and crowd showing up and realizing that, hey, we're out here to have a good time. Let's round up all the live charters and we're flying everybody to Mullen, Nebraska, for the smiley show classic at Sand Hills in the middle, in the middle of nowhere. No, I, I think that that's, uh, that's actually, that's a great segue here. We're going to save our Scotty's and her talk from the end of the show because this is something you and I were looking at, uh, you know, again, so we've been keeping tabs on all year long, but specific to this week, um, you know, the strength of this field and the result for the PGA tour against the way the lives scheduled this entire season. And this is another one we're all go ahead and share my screen here. So we have a reference point for anyone who's also watching, uh, on YouTube, but it's just, it's interesting because here's the thing, here are a couple of things that struck me first, um, that you, I would have assumed that live will be playing a tune up before every major championship and that being the case, I'd say, you know, no matter what the strength of that event is I understand why lives going against it because I'm trying to get their guys ready. It's actually interesting. They did not do a tune up for the PGA championship this year and there is a rumored schedule floating around for live next year and they, the same thing holds for whatever reason they decided that that may stretch is just a soft spot that they don't really want to go for. Um, this year they played an event made third through fifth and their next event was June seven through ninth. Um, and you know, just went straight from the, they went against the, the CJ cup and then they went against the, the memorial, uh, ahead of the U S open. So, you know, they played three events that were sort of, um, tune ups for majors, then they played an additional four, well, they, they played three thus far that went head to head with PGA towards signature events and they'll have a fourth, the, the green bride that's going to go up against the, the, uh, first FedEx cup playoff event. Uh, and then the other events that they chose to go up against this year will be, um, the W and Phoenix open, the cognizant classic and the Palm beaches, the Zurich classic, the CJ cup Byron Nelson, the three, um, open, uh, the Napa Valley golf championship and then their team championship will, they will be an off week for the PGA tour in the fall. So you know, I, I think it's, it's an interesting mix. Um, it's, it's curious to me that they, that they went up against W and Phoenix open because I feel like that's kind of your target demo for live. What else stands out to you from this list, smiley? Well, when I look at this list, I start to think about, all right, let's, let's use the hypothetical of live golf. Let's just say they're going to be here for five to 10 more years. And if, and if the PGA tour is going to coexist with a live golf tour, how can we have something to where Charlie the viewer wants to watch both? And to me, right now, they just, they haven't figured it out initially, it felt like their, their strategy was to go against the, the worst or the events. But like you said, going up against, it's going up, oh, going up against Phoenix makes no sense. Right? Like that's like just an event you would never want to go up against, uh, the weeks in which I would want to turn on live with, I even texted you was like, I actually want to watch live today because I didn't really have, uh, I didn't really care to watch the 3M just because I felt like the leaderboard was good. Um, it seemed like they had a decent crowd. Did I watch? I didn't. But it's still, I thought about it. Um, I did think about it today, if you did. And I have watched live golf just for those that, that do, uh, consume both products. And, um, listen, I mean, the, they have great players. I, I love watching John Romme. He's still one of my all time best players I've ever played with. And I wish I could watch him more because that's, it's so fun to watch him play golf. He's a, he's an angry person when he plays, but, uh, so it's general hat and the guy that finished second this week, but I, I would, I would like to see now ideally, I would rather live, not be around and everybody playing together again. But if live is going to exist, I would like to see them really just avoid all of the big PGA tour events and have it to where, and, and maybe that doesn't fit the major schedule when you get in the summer kind of, uh, like you were talking about maybe before, uh, the masters or before, uh, the open championship, maybe it can't be perfect. But in the early part of the season, maybe you can make it work a little bit. And that, that's really just my only thought is, um, is that, but I, I just think that the times like in, in just looking at even like their schedule projection for next year, dude, I just, I'm not turning the TV on when unless it's like near prime time, right? I think a lot of American viewers feel that way. And I know Whiv's whole thing is going global, um, and, and it's spreading golf around the world. But from an American audience, I think the PGA tour is great for an American because hey, it's like clockwork, you turn on the TV at 4 30 PM and you can watch, you know, the last four or five holes in the golf tournament, if you turn the TV on and add a lay for the last four or five holes, you need to do it in the morning, right? So it's just a, it's a totally different, uh, viewing cycle and maybe it fits a, um, an international viewer, much better than an American viewer, but I, that's, that's the hold up for me is, is the time in which you can watch and then the fact that they go up against each other too much. If you have kids or pets, you know stains and odors in your carpet and upholstery are inevitable, but the experts at chem dry can help. Chem dry removes odors and stubborn stains by sending millions of carbonating bubbles deep within your carpet. 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Yeah, it continues, it folds right in with the discussion that we're having this entire show, which is what does the future of golf look like and how are we sort of composing that in a way that makes sense for the viewer, like the most important piece of this whole machine, which is the person that spends money on professional golf to keep the thing going. I think that there are, I absolutely agree with you on, I think the timing of it is interesting and we could even pull up here because there's a rumored live schedule for next season. I think it's kind of interesting. Looking at this right now, they've shoveled some tournaments around, they've opened Saudi Arabia in February and then going to Adelaide in February, which is a bump-up, I believe, from May this past year, then going to Hong Kong and Singapore, and then the week leading into the Masters will be in Austin, Texas, then going to Tokyo, Japan later in April and then South Korea in May, which is interesting. Then the week before the US opened, they'll go to Washington, DC, and then they will go to Nashville on the back end of DC, the week leading into the Open Championship will be in, it's a to-be-determined location in Europe, and then on the back end of the Open Championship they'll be in the United Kingdom, and then it looks like we don't know the exact dates for the 2025 FedEx Cup playoffs yet, but it looks like they have three events that should go up against those in Mexico City, Indianapolis, and Dallas to close out the year. So here's what I like about the way this schedule feels a little bit different from past years is opening in some of these locations that if we're in the States and it's still really cold in a lot of locations and there's still kind of snow on the ground, you're watching this sort of exotic Gulf and it looks warm and guys are wearing shorts and you're kind of saying this is, this looks, this gets me kind of interested in this, it's the same thing of PGA Tour doing the floor to swing, or even some of the events that are sort of Arizona and California and stuff like that, it kind of gets you warmed up for golf. Oh yeah, it gets you excited, it gets you excited, and then you look at the wind, you're like, "Oh, not quite time yet, not quite time yet, but I like that piece of it, but I do think in a larger sense, whether or not the two tours are actually going to mesh or whether or not they're going to coexist, how do you find spots that are open?" And I don't know if it's literally getting to the point where there's some sort of a deal with the PIF and they're saying, "Hey, our tour players are going to be released to play in these events these weeks and we're going to have kind of smaller, weaker field events here on whatever version of the PGA Tour it is there," like I think that's a one solve that could work, or if they're just going to say, "Hey, we're just going to go ahead to head," but it's obvious that the field's going to migrate. I don't know what, I mean that's so far down the road, but like, I'd like to see it fold together better to kind of further your point. Yeah, what would make me interested in watching LiveGolf is if there was something to follow with a points race that got you into signature events, let's say the top five of their order of merit, "Hey, that qualifies you for signature events," and maybe vice versa for PGA Tour events. If that's like a thing in which you can do both, I would be interested in following LiveGolf much more in that case because now I'm tracking to say, "Okay, who's going to be playing at the players? Who's going to be playing at Bay Hill? They've had a great year. That's awesome." So that would be something that's interesting, but just like running the numbers a little bit too on it, LiveGolf Tour, I think they started with 12 events, they're up to 14 last year and projected to do the same next year. And if you kind of look at just the general calendar of maybe how many events PGA Tour top players will want to play, let's put that number at, right now there's eight signature events, is that correct? Correct, yes. Plus the majors. Plus the majors plus, I mean, a players' championship, I'm sorry, yeah. Let's say there's a PGA Tour schedule that has 12 to 16 events, and let's use 14 as a base number because that's easy because that's what Live is doing. So now we're talking about 28 weeks, and we're talking about four majors. So we've got 32 total available weeks of golf. Now there's got to be a way to make all of that work because we're talking about 52 weeks in the year. So we've got 20 extra weeks in which you can kind of not compete with football, but also you can mesh maybe one or two here and there in the fall. But I just think there's a world in which it works. I think if you had a smaller PGA Tour deal, but I know these guys, probably these tough guys played, oh gosh, how many events do they play? Probably closer to 20, it's probably about right. So 14's on the low side, so you're going to have some tough crossovers like we kind of just talked about where, hey, you just can't do anything about the week before a major. I mean, you're going to have guys playing that week and you just have to pick and choose which one you watch. But maybe there's a way in which both coexist. I think it starts with the PGA Tour looking internally, it's like, let's get the best product that we can possibly do, get the best players playing to where guys turn the leaderboard and it's like, boom, that's the leaderboard. We got it. And I think the tour needs to focus on that, get the eligibility right, get the amount of players right, and they get the locations right because that's the one thing I will commend live golf schedule on in the States, they've nailed where they've gone. They've really have to a degree, maybe not quite as much green, bro, that's not quite as poppy as Nashville or Austin or DC that's potentially going there, but they've gone to Chicago, they've gone to Boston, so commend them on going to the big cities where the action is. I mean, here's where, again, my content brain wheels start to spend a little bit is like, because just as you're laying that out there, you're like, okay, we have 20 free weeks of the year, like I would go so far as to be like, let's stop. It's football season. Yeah. That's football season also, but even like for golf, for people who are always consuming golf content, like I know I am and like I know many of my friends are, it's like, let's go send some cameras, like rotate, pick a new guy, a new handful of guys every couple of weeks, they're not doing it all the time, and let's have like a YouTube series where everyone's miked up for a money game, like something that's more authentic than the match and less produced than a match. Like I want you to take the production value of like a good good or a Bob does sports and I want to just mic these guys up at their home club and just let them let it rip and just see, just see what that does. Try to sell ads against that, try, you know, see if that all of a sudden opens you up to a whole new lane of viewers, you know, on YouTube or somewhere else or on socials that, you know, grows a different type of interest because, I mean, if you're telling me that there are, you're shrinking this thing, you know, by 60%, you know, whatever, there's like there, there are 40% less events out there, you know, or there have as many events out there. Well, I know for sure, I'm absolutely going to be tuning in to those events. And I know the best players are going to be there. So it's going to be the marquee event. You get you excited to watch golf, right? He's so excited. He's like, yeah, we can't miss this week. And then in the interim, it's like you're trying to prep for some sort of deal and it's like, oh, yeah, we've got, you know, Scotty Sheffler and Jordan Spieth playing, you know, Austin Golf Club, you know, for high stakes and, you know, you got, you know, Bob does sports and Fat Perez out there commentating on the thing. And it's a nice hang. It's like a two part series, you know, there's like, we cut it down to an hour for the first time, hour for the second night, I'm going to, you know, crack a beer anytime I want to Washington off night like that to me is like, yes, like that sounds like the type of content I'll consume disappointed in you. Why? Because I just lost a job opportunity. I mean, I could have been commentating in Austin Country Club and either Bob does sports and Fat Perez out there, man, I could have been alive on the mic because we're going to be playing in this. It's going to be you and I as a content unit. We're going to like, what the hell man, he just just gave somebody a job right in front of me. We're going to have jobs. Dude, I'm creating the ecosystem. We will have jobs. All right. We're going to have big corner offices in, you know, like a gazelle just now, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, I'll take care of you. You know, I buy Fat Perez right here on live on the air and I love Fat Perez. I'd love to listen to FP, but what we'll get you on. That was tough. We'll get you broadcasting jobs with there, there are a whole litany of jobs I have at your mark. You smiley. Don't you worry. You'll be taking care of well and this new, this new ecosystem. I got a, as we wrap up the live thing, I got a, got a, once again, give a shout out to our guy, Sean Laurie, who just every week has got a new stat packet ready for me. Oh yeah. What has he got this week? What stands out? So here's your trivia question for the week. Ooh. Okay. How much, what do you think Richard Bland's lifetime earnings are on, on live? Oh man. I'm going to guess that he's made 20 million. Oh wow. I guess hi. Everyone's hot on Mr. Bland out 13 million all the time. He's never, but he's only played 31 events and he's never finished worse than 40th. So that was made, that was maybe a bad trivia. It is the summer of Richard Bland after all winning all the other ones, any other good questions. He has, well, how about this one? So you're going to ask it to me to tell it to me. Well, I, what I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you one piece and I'm going to ask you a piece of trivia about one of these players. So, okay, there are a couple of things going on here. Some moves that are happening. Harold Varner looks like he finished, he finished top 20 this week. It looks like he's earned himself an open spot for 2025 on the other side of that is what do you mean? Like, like, like he's earned this, like even if he's not saying what he's doing, he's playing the league next year. Looks like this might have long performed. Is there a certain number that you can get to? There's like a whole relegation section. There are guys that, you know, it happened last year to a certain set of guys. So it looks like Pat Perez and Brandon Grace are going to, are going to be relegated. So Pat Perez, how much money do you think Pat Perez has made all time on this? Well, is the team included in that? You know, it's not clarified in Sean's note, I'd have to assume so, but you know, that numbers, so I mean, the ACEs have been like for the first two years, they were the team to beat. So I don't, I can't even give you a number because that they're so different, you know, with how much you make in the team. Just take a flyer. Yes. How much did you pass it? And unfortunately, unfortunately, I, I think the cleeks team is included in the Richard Bland number because they just, you probably haven't made a lot of money. All right. Now I'm going to go, I mean, he's probably made, oh gosh, he's probably made 22 million. Wow. Hi again. Really? He's 18th all time on the money list, says 17.2 million. That's pretty good getting a lot of money out of cash. So listen, thanks to Sean, Sean, I might tee it up soon. Sean's, Sean's a local in the triangle here. So perfect. Looking forward to that. All right. So here, here's a place where we'll finish the show, Smiley, and you know, we're almost an hour in here. So we'll, we'll keep this relatively brief, but some of you not have been kicking around here and I'm going to share my screen one final time. The player of the U debate, Scotty Scheffler, Xander Scheffler, I mean, I think it, you know, just even a few weeks ago, it would have been absurd to suggest anybody other than Scotty Scheffler winning this thing. But I think there's an argument to be made. I think if I was in the court of law and I was, and I was on the stand and I'm presenting a case for Xander Scheffler, it's going to be contingent on future events. Like, yes, I think that Xander is the East Lake whisperer. So I think that like we have to factor in what's going to happen the rest of the year. But do you think this thing is, is close right now? Like we're looking at some stats here. What's popping for you? Six wins is currently popping. Yes. That is good. Floor signature event wins. That's popping. Two majors means a lot though that, that honestly counts for, you know, you could double the wins on that. So count them as two, so it'd be total of, yeah, because even one of the other events, it's four events. I would put that, if you, my, my, my double or here, so that, that stands out. I mean, gosh, the fact that neither miss a cut about surprising at all. 34 played combined and a big fat zero miss cuts for these two. I mean stats. We all know how good that they're graded everything. The punting stats for Scottie, I mean, there's nothing, nothing that we didn't learn looking at this besides that I agree, you know, in the court of law, if you had to argue for Xander Schoff, he'd say, Hey, what needs to happen? What needs to happen? I think he's got of, he's, I don't know if gold is, is the answer, but if he metals, I think is, is a start to Xander Schoff, like it's a metal. I think gold obviously would, would be that gold is nice. That means a lot. Gold means a lot. I think, I think that's your championship. You know, it's, that's going to, that's going to, excuse me, what's kind of sitting and everybody's back of their brains, but I'm going to finish this out because I think the voting goes late in the fall. Right? Because every last year they can, why, why isn't the voting done now? Like, well, because remember it, that was, that was the weird year last year. That was the double wrap round. That's why Ludwig and Eric Cole, the rookie of the year race went so late. Whereas I think this year it might actually be earlier. It should be right after, why do I have to find out the player of the year that much later? Yeah. I mean, in looking at this list, like, I just love the scoring average thing where it's like, they're just one, two, like it's so clear that these two guys are the best players on tour this year. Scotty is 67.97, Xander at 68.57. And then he looked at Xander, you're like, man, he has made $15.9 million this year. Like that's a lot of money. You look over at Scotty's page north of 28 million and he has a lot of tournaments left to play. So smiley, let me throw a hypothetical at you here because this is, we're, we're, we're fully dabbling at this point. Let's say Xander metals, let's say Xander earns a metal better than whatever Scotty metals, like, you know, whether it's, you know, they both metal and he earns gold, Scotty earns silver or silver and bronze, or he earns a metal in Scotty doesn't. And Xander wins the tour championship, but Scotty wins one of the FedEx cup playoff events. What would you say at that point? Okay. Here's, can I kind of hypothetical your hypothetical? Oh, please. You can't triple stamp a double stamp. Has there ever been a player win player of the year to never win a PGA tour event that year? Oh, wow. That just break your brain. Wow. Let's say, let's say Scotty goes and just absolute shoots the wad in the playoffs, plays terribly. And Xander wins a miss he, he's, he's, he's, he's already in Eastlake, right? Like he, he forgets how to tie a shoe at all three events and Xander wins gold. But let's say Xander finishes second, second, second and all the playoff events. And I mean, is there a case to be made that guy won a gold, two gold medals, excuse me, the cold metal and two major championships did win a PGA tour event. Can you give that guy the player of the year for not winning a PGA tour event? So okay. I was just, I was just, Xander Shoffley's attorney. Now I'm the judge, like there is no resume coming from Xander Shoffley's camp that is going to have me award him player of the year that does not include a tour championship win. Like I'm saying like, I think he needs to win the tour championship for this to even be a discussion. Okay. Kudos. Thank you. Thank you. Well said. Judge. Kudos the BMW championship. All of which we're, it looks like we're going to be at so excited for that. But he has to, he has to win, he has to win the tour championship for this to be a conversation and he very well Mike, because he's plays fantastic in this place. We have to figure out is, is he going to play good at the, the new Gil Hance or Andrew Green? I'm sorry. With no disrespect to Andrew Green, the new Andrew Green renovated Eastlake, because that is, that is a question. I wonder, I'm wondering if it's, I mean, will the changes be drastic enough to where it's going to make a huge impact on him? I don't know. Anytime would tell. Are we going to have like a, I'm already taking Xander, if just so you know, I'm taking Xander Eastlake. Well, we have a ton of work to do on the one and on front because we have to figure out how many points we're assigning Olympic medals and we now have to figure out how we're converting points to dollars. Do you want to do points for that idea? I mean, we can do whatever we want to do. We can just get picks off the Olympics and just be done with it. Well, cause we, cause you get points for, or no, you don't get points for the, for the two first you fed it because it's just, it's all in order of finish. Yeah. Yeah. No, but, but isn't the, no, no, but, but you, you get points. You get points of finish. Yeah. You get points the first two weeks. You get points the first two weeks. Right. So we can do it for those. We just got to figure out a system for, yeah, we'll get there. We got it. We'll get there. Yeah. I'll tell you what, if anyone has good suggestions, if you, first of all, if you made it this far on this podcast, congrats. Thank you for joining us for this long. A second of all, find us on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, YouTube, find a place, comment, your suggestion for our one and one point system for the Olympics and for the Tour Championship. And then we'll, we'll take the best one. We'll use it. Yeah. There you go. We do kind of got to get Olympic picks in, but I think we have a few more days before we do that. So. Yeah. That's, uh, it's next week. So I, that I'm excited to see actually. This week. That's the dream. Oh, yeah. What week are we in now? Like this coming week. Oh, yes. True. Today's Sunday. Yes. It's this week. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll pass both of our bedtimes at this stage of the game. So, uh, smiley, do you have any final thoughts for the people? Put a lot of those on there this week. Let's see, uh, one thing I'll say about my travels to Ireland is that I think Dublin airports, my favorite airport in the world. And you know why? It's because you get to clear customs in Dublin. So when you land in JFK, Atlanta, wherever the heck you're flying to the States, you just go to your next gate. And I think that's so sick. So shout out to Dublin for being really good at pouring beer, but also having a great airport. That's interesting. We need to unpack that. So you just literally, you just, you do all your custom stuff running and nothing happens when you get to the States. I literally went to my gate. That's amazing. It was awesome. I got it. Amazing. The customs has gotten lax in recent years. I was stunned. I was stunned. The processes going back from Scotland, JT had global entry and, and we were just like, Oh God, I got to get global entry. We're talking about, um, me and Jill were talking about just like, man, we're going to be in mind just in that because we were thinking we saw to do it in the States and then we get there and, uh, we, we go in just like this lane and then JT goes in the global entry and then Jill and I both beat him like through. I was like, ah, sucker that was, that was the easiest thing ever. So shout out double an airport. That's makes you another reason to go back because you don't have to deal with it. Like it just didn't feel like international travel. I love that. I was, I was in JT's position in a similar way because I did that thing where you pay for, you get like the double up, you get TSA and global entry at the same time for a slightly increased price. So I was telling my dad and the whole lead of Scotland, daddy got to do this. You got to do this. And, and then he'd get out like, ah, that's going to be really tough. You're going to be holding us up here. And then we got there and there wasn't, there was just no line. Oh, okay. Well, I guess that was a, that was a not a great tip. So when you need it, like the one there's that one time you need it and man, it's nice to have. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there you go. That's a little teaser. As mentioned off the top of the episode, do not miss the second episode of this week. I'm Ali Kauffman alongside Justin Thomas and Jordan Spieth, recapping an Ireland golf trip. I don't, that's just about as good as it gets. 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Join Smylie Kaufman and Charlie Hulme as the duo discusses:
- Jhonattan Vegas's remarkable return to the winner's circle with his victory at the 3M Open.
- The intriguing dynamics of the PGA Tour as they gear up for the FedEx Cup playoffs.
- A sneak peek at Smylie’s recent golf trip to Ireland, joined by Justin Thomas and Jordan Spieth.
- The ongoing Player of the Year debate between Scottie Scheffler and Xander Schauffele, weighing their stats and future performances, and how the Olympic golf events might influence the conversation.
