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Monday nITe Live (3/4): Draft Performances, Helmet Comms
We did it guys. Welcome. Welcome to the Monday live stream. It's, it's our weekly opportunity for us all to just gather, collect our thoughts, potentially get canceled. We, we run the edge of that every single week and we're glad that you're here for it. We're going to talk about a lot of things tonight. We've got the combine, we've got some helmet can comms, we've got a whole bunch of stuff and most importantly your questions. To get your question answered, please do us a super chat. If you don't mind, obviously we'll try to get to every question we can, but the super chat is the best way to ensure that we get your question. We are going to start with a combine. We had, it's all done now. We've finally finished everything up. We've got our, our numbers in, our results are in. I'd love to know from you boys, what were the biggest surprises from this combine? You know, there's a couple that were faster than I thought. Actually, Xavier Worthy was a little bit faster than I thought, but when he said that he was going to try to run in the four twos, these guys at this point, they kind of know what they're going to run because they've been practicing it with like sophisticated timing. So if Beijon, I think Beijon said he was going to try to run a four four or something. So then you just knew that that's probably what he's going to do. But Beijon Murphy's time was pretty amazing. And obviously a 40 yard dash for a lineman isn't like particularly meaningful because they don't run 40 yards ever. But if you see a guy that's around 300 pounds, runs like four nine, it usually means they're a pretty dominant athlete. Like you like it like the Phillies, the Phillies, the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line, like recently retired Jason Kelsey ran like a four eight or something. They have a bunch of Lane Johnson ran like a four seven. They have a bunch of guys like that. And it obviously translates. And then a Jetavian Sanders ran faster than I thought as well. We were talking about that before we went on me and I think me and Paul both thought he was going to be slower than he was. He ran a four six nine, which is pretty good straight line speed for a 250 plus pound guy. I figured he would test well like on agility, but I didn't, I didn't think he was going to show that kind of straight line speed. Addon I Mitchell caught me by surprise. He ran a tenth faster than I would have thought for I did not see four three four three four coming. I would have guessed four four five maybe four five flat maybe and his broad jump was 11 feet. That's that's spectacular. I think is I think his vertical was 39 inches as well. So, you know, you can see the Twitch when he's out there running routes and obviously he's getting behind defenses quite a bit and I had to slow down for some passes from yours this season on more than one occasion. So we knew he was fast and we knew he was athletic, but I didn't think he was just that fast. That's screaming for 62205. I think they said that the last guy to run that speed at a bigger size than him was DK Metcalf and that was quite a while ago and everybody knows DK is a, DK is a freak. Paul? Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that my Mitchell thing. The fact that he did it 205, you know, he showed up at Texas at about 190. So, he put on really good weight. Also, the obligatory height change, right? Yeah. He was billed at 65, right? And then he was billed at 64, you know, and then the good ones he gets measured. Remember Roy Williams used to be 65 and then he got measured at the combine. It's like six, two and a half. So, yeah, that always happens at the combine, but yeah, you got to get a measure in your bare feet. You don't get to do your shoes or your socks or they make you stand in a certain way and you get a true height measurement. But yeah, I'm in a spectacular performance by all the Texas guys. I think, so I wrote an article about it today, beyond the numbers, every single guy exceeded expectations. And that's a huge credit to them to distribute to their parents who gave them the genetics that allowed them to do that. But also, it's a tremendous reflection on the program. So this was the best mark. So the season was the best way to disrupt the anti-Texas narrative, the actual play on the field, right? One of the big 12 wins the playoff, finish number three in the country. Damn good season. The coup de gras was the performance of all these guys at the combine, where they either, oh, every single one of these guys are performed. You guys, you mentioned Byron Murphy, who deserves every bit of mentioning him. To boundary sweat ran a five, two at three 66. That's as impressive as a human guy running for three, right? Christian Jones ran 505. 502 something like that. Yeah. All right, Christian. I mean, that's blazing. So I mean, for a big man to move like that, I mean, it's very impressive. And so this is basically the end of the Texas doesn't develop or you're going to go to Texas and waste your career narrative. It just, it all turned in one year. And it's a question now of maintaining it and nurturing that. And it's a tremendous thing for the program broadly as just a marketing piece. And more than that, it's not just about the development of the actual guys who are on campus. Obviously, that's happening. It's that we're getting a selection bias of recruits now. Serious minded recruits who now view Texas as a vehicle to get to the NFL, rather than the end goal. And if that makes sense, you know, we all love the guy who wants to be here, right? Well, if the culmination of his life's dream is just getting a scholarship to Texas, we don't actually want to. Right. If we want to win a bunch of games. So this is a tremendous opportunity for selection bias where athletes are going to realize Texas has it all. I'm going to get prepared. I'm going to have a really good time because being the big man on campus in Austin is pretty fun from what I hear. You're going to, you've got a great NIL opportunities. It checks every box and it just destroys the anti recruiting of Texas. And Eric might be able to speak to this, but you know, one thing that other coaches could all do, whether you're Ohio State recruiter, LSU, OU, whatever, take Texas off the map, take Texas off the table as an option by negatively recruiting Texas. And if everyone's saying it, then the recruit says, well, there's where there's smoke, there's fire. And by the way, there was fire as well, like they weren't just making up this narrative that Texas was underachieving. So what that, that completely dispels that. And you just can't adopt this sort of, you know, now the player just gets to evaluate fit. And if it's, if it's a player near Austin, if it's a player from the State of Texas, you have a natural bias towards the long learns for most of these guys. And the fact that their family can see them, Austin's a great place to be even post graduation if you're looking long term. I mean, it's amazing what one season on and off the field can do to disrupt all of those narratives. Yeah, what you said was, it's more likely they'll get guys that we're going to go to the NFL anyways, to get them, it's easier to get them on campus now. I think that was a very quick way to put it. But yeah, that's good. It's, you know, they always hit a brick wall in the spring recruiting, they'll get off to a good start with recruits within a certain class. Guys just, you know, generally like UT, they like Austin, like all the things that Paul just mentioned. But then they'll hit a wall once NFL draft season rolls around. And you know, they've had years where they go over to in the last, you know, eight years or so, they didn't have a single draft pick go. And then they had a couple with a lot of disappointments that didn't pan out and guys that were drafted late, not a lot of early round noise, early round noise is where everybody, that's what it gets to the recruits that in these early, the guys that are going early, they're going to have a number of early guys going, Byron Murphy's early, because everywhere is early, Adni Mitchell's early, that really gets the recruits attention. If they're going early, that makes it even harder to negative recruit any holdover developmental questions. So that's normally when recruiting hits a brick wall in the late spring, they have to regather and try to win them back over during official visit season. This year, those, those, those schools that are going to negative recruit are going to have to pick something else. They're more likely to go to to point towards the talent and development by saying that, you know, there's a long path to the playing field now instead of, you know, come play here, you'll play quicker, which is, you know, actually, that's not the greatest sell if you sit back and think about it. Of all the, of all the events that we're looking at in these things, we've got the dash to split the vertical, broad three cones shuttle and the bench. Of those, what is the best metric for success? I mean, obviously, they're judging very specific things. But if you, if you could only do one, which one would you do? This is where, this is where me and Eric could get out in the corners so that all can get to the rim. Well, I've got a little something to say too. So when I'll let, I'll let Paul have the fast break. All right. Let's, let's give Eric the ball. He's fixing the dump here. What's up? Yeah. Well, there's the, the, the one cheat code is the shuttle for offensive lineman. If it, any, any offensive lineman that goes 4, 4, 7, I think they, they end up just starting set, you know, the, the amount of guys that do that start like 78% of their career games or something. That's unheard of because, you know, the, the real metric that they're looking for is like a make or break line. All right. This guy's got a good chance. I believe it's like 4, 7 is where they usually find your good starters. But if you find around that 4, 4, 7 number and I know they had a handful this, this past week, because it was, it's a ridiculous class. That's almost, it's not a guarantee of success, but it's about as good of a guarantee as you're going to have in this, with these measurements. I'm really glad you said that, Eric. So I was, I didn't watch the draft as much as I typically do. But that's exactly right on the offensive line. And in fact, Notre Dame's Joe Alt, he did a, he had a really low number and he's like 6, 6, 3, 20 or something ridiculous. And when I saw that, I was like, well, he's a top 10 pick. Like that's it. Yeah, I think they got him at 6, 8. He's 6, 8. Okay. I think so. I think I saw that I didn't, I didn't fall as close as normal either. I'm just kind of picking through the threads on it. If you don't, if you're not falling as close, so you can just read IT and stay caught up. But I think they got him at 6, 8. Imagine a cone drill where your center of gravity is that high and you're able to change direction that quickly in space. That's crazy. I mean, Johnny, you might be a top five pick now. I think Johnny Wilson got a four one or something. And you know, he's a 6, 6 receiver. That's a number that corners get, no, this is the freakiest combine I've ever seen. It's like they measured it all wrong. I don't know, man. It was wild. Well, it's a progression of, you know, these guys are now preparing for it, right? They're doing six to eight week mini camps. And all they do is prep these drills and prep these tests. So there's a very famous NFL trainer who was one of the guys who trained Brian Pushing, by the way, so he's famous for many things. But he did something really interesting once he had all these guys doing their NFL draft prep on the three cone drill. And he had someone come in, they're all running it, and he was teaching them the proper steps. Because if you, if you take an extra step on that, you're going to lose, you know, one or two tenths of a second, right? So he goes, watch this. And he took the cones and he just changed the pattern of the cones slightly. And then he had everyone run the drill and all these NFL guys were slipping and falling. No, because they didn't have the steps down yet. So the point is, this is a test where you know the answers. You get to cheat. The question is, and in a way, that's a test too. Are you going to put in the time to study? And more and more of these guys are professionalizing and saying, I'm not just going to show up would be a freak. You know, that's why the Bo Jackson's of the world, the Deon Sanders of the world, they weren't doing NFL combine prep, right? Right. They were, they were hanging out. And you know, they showed up and the day of and stretched up for about a nine seconds and then just ran, right? So what kind of, what kind of advantage did that give you? Because at the end of the day, like, if I know the racing line, I can do my best to stay on that line. But that's not going to guarantee that I finished first. I can know the path. No, no, no. So these, the ultimate wildfire for all of this. And this is why I'd encourage everyone to read the book, the sports gene by David Epstein. It's sort of the, it's, it's the real world rejoinder to the Malcolm Gladwell 10,000 hours nonsense fiction, which literally Malcolm Gladwell created out of, out of the air and people still, well, you got to get your 10,000 hours. Well, you have no idea what you're talking about. So elite genetics, Trump, all of this. And that's what matters. So we're talking about the elite of the elite looking for infinitesimal advantage. And that's, that's it. And so, and that's measured in a, in a half of, you know, a tenth of a second here and there. And that's, that can change your draft status. And it probably shouldn't that much, to be honest, you should probably let the film dictate most of your draft status. And I think most of the NFL still does that. But there are speed freaks, you know, if Al Davis was still alive, Xavier Worthy would be a raider. No doubt. Do that. But now that's just how it is. And you did mention what's the most important singular thing? The one thing that's the greatest indicator of your power potential. I can tell you that is the vertical. Because that can't be gained. It can't be trained. Someone with a 20 inch vertical cannot train their way into a 38 inch vertical. Despite those sneakers with the weird little yeah, they were in the back of the magazines. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't work that way. Why? Because the vertical leap is actually your CNS. It's your central nervous system. It's your ability to recruit your muscle fibers quickly. And so that's how someone can be very powerful to measure a power, but not strong, if that makes sense. So Xavier Worthy, I don't think he can squat 335 if you put it on the bar, but he can vertical 41 inches. There's guys at your gold gym who can squat 335 10 times. And their vertical is 18 inches. So the vertical is your innate power potential. It's literally your body CNS's ability to recruit muscle fibers quickly. And it's not just isolated to your legs. If you have a really good vertical, you're usually really springy and quick and explosive all throughout your body. Now that can vary. You know, you've got the Tommy Hearns of the world, the great boxer. His, the equivalent of his power potential in his arms and his shoulders was like a 40 inch vertical. But you know, he probably wasn't a super athletic guy, like from an NFL standard. But the vertical is a really interesting tell tale. And it's really the best insight into your pure genetics, if that makes sense. Well, sticking with that, let's, let's talk about the people that executed that really well. I mean, based on this combine, and this is from Brett Nelson, I don't want to, I don't want to lose him because he's a primary contributor to our drinking fund. And I thank you, Brett. It's you're always great on the super chat. And we really appreciate it. But he wants to know based on this combine. Did we did our, our AD and X blocks now first round? I don't think so. I think Mitchell is, I think Mitchell is, you know, it just takes one team to fall in love with you. And there's a lot of chatter about the Chiefs falling in love with worthy. I just, I don't know if that's, you know, based in reality or not. If I'm the Texans, I'm looking at 80 Mitchell at 23. But I came into this day, I came into the week love in 80. You know, I said that, you know, he's the first rounder, because if he came back for one more year, which he had available to him, he'd be the top water receiver next year's draft. They'd be talking, or at least they'd be talking to him, talking about him like the big three this year with Harrison neighbors and O'Dunze. So if you get him at 23, when the year later, he's, he's eight, you know, there's a lot of value there. Worthy. I still, you know, for that 41 inch vertical, I saw people excited about that. How many times did we see him climb the ladder and go get the ball? Not a whole lot. Now we saw him behind defenses a lot, and we saw him use his acceleration a number of times. But that that vertical didn't come into play a lot with the skill set. You know, I question his ball skills, which are a little different than hands. Ball skills are, are tracking the ball. It's going up and getting them, making a play on it. That's something that's not clearly evident on tape, despite him clearly having the obvious athletic gifts to go do it. You had a deep breath, a sigh in there, Ian. What are your thoughts? I don't think they're a lock for the first, I don't think that speeds like that make you a lock for the first round anymore. Like Al Davis, rest in peace. It's no longer here to see these guys like that. Taekwa and Thornton had pretty good film at Baylor and ran something. I can't remember exactly what he ran, but it was something insane. Yeah, like a four to nine or a four three or something like that. Something like that. And he went in the second round, not the first. And he went to the Patriots and did Jack squat. And the Patriots always screw up receiver. So with a minute, the Patriots happened to him, you knew he was going to fail, right? Yeah, you're right. So I don't think, I do think that, and like Paul, Paul's point about how these guys test for the tests very well. They prepare in advance. The NFL teams know this. So they don't, they're not going to fawn over these numbers in the same way that as, you know, media people looking for content will. So they know that some of these numbers are a little bit inflated relative to the past. And they are going to put a little more onus on the film. But a lot of people going into the week, because, you know, at the same time, they're waiting on all these athletic tests to happen. They're, you know, the porn over the tape, they're offering their opinions left and right, the, you know, the recruitingics. A lot of them were fawning over 80 Mitchell's tape. And it's a lot of the stuff that we said, even before he ever took a snap at Texas, is that, you know, he's a savvy wide receiver. He sets up cornerbacks really well. He does a lot of little subtle things that aren't going to come up. They're not going to be obvious to the naked eye for most fans, but it surely comes up when you evaluate them. And so he has soft skills that we're talking about. Obviously, he's got ball skills. He uses that six, two length, not six, four lengths to make plays on the ball. And he actually got behind defenses a lot too. So, so the speed was there, the twitch is there. So I think if you combine that, that's just going to bolster what they saw on tape, like, okay, this guy is really as athletic as he looks like. So yeah, sorry, go ahead of you. I'm just going to say I agree with Eric. I think Mitchell is more likely to sneak up than worthy. And like everybody knew worthy was fast. Like that's very apparent. But Mitchell Derek's point has ball skills and some subtle route running that are obvious on tape. And then the four three just makes, it's just kind of the, the cherry on the top. You know, 80s, 80s more likely to be a wide receiver one in the league and where these more likely to be a wide receiver two in the league. So I think that's just the bottom line. But you know, we'll see. If you had to, if you had to say right now, who's the first UT player taken? That's Byron at the gate. Yeah. Byron will be the first one. At least that's what every, that's what all the markers are saying. And he's got a very high floor. And you know, he's still plenty of ceiling to explore. And when you talk about the athleticism that he displayed, he plays with power, leverage, motor, and he's still only 20 years old. I mean, so even though he's, he doesn't have a lot of room to, to, you know, maximize frame potential, like, you know, some of these, you know, longer guys with 84 inch wingspans. But he's not, he's not, he's not, he's not a complete product yet either. Hey, I'll say this on the receivers. Production may not necessarily prove the point of who's the better receiver. Because so much of your production depends on where you end up in the NFL, right in the offense in your quarterback. The Kansas City Chiefs just won the Super Bowl with a bottom five wide receiver core in the NFL. Don't remind me. Okay. Well, and San Francisco has a what? Top seven, top five wide receiver core. So a lot of it is your environment. A lot of it is what you have around you. Yeah. So worthy and Mitchell can both be very good receivers. And you know, both could struggle a little bit, depending on what environment they land up, land in. What's up, Ian? I mean, Travis Kelsey, if you count him as a receiver, then they're receiving court. Looks a little better. That's what matters have kiddle. Yeah, exactly. I mean, the point is the wide receiving room. Your who's around you matters a great deal in the NFL. And certainly matters in college. Even an absolute stud can be force fed the ball and still produce, right? Even with the weeks are running and supporting cast and the NFL, it's very difficult. If everyone around you sucks, it's tough for you to just ball out, which makes, you know, the Calvin Johnson's of the world and the Larry Fitzgerald, right? Yeah. Andre Johnson was another one. It's the NFL is much better about their schemes are a little more sophisticated for just erasing a guy with double coverage all day. Whereas in college, that's actually kind of tricky to like just use the safety to take somebody out of the game. Someone in the chat just said, Paul, a lot of that is Pat Mahomes. Yes, that was my point. Yeah. Exactly. I wasn't attributing that to to, you know, their running back room. We've had a couple, we've had a couple rule changes. I want to shift gears a little bit. What? And you wrote an article about this on inside Texas.com. Ian, we've got we've got three major rule changes coming potentially. I mean, they're they're being floated. I think they're very likely to to be enacted. But the first is obviously going to be, I think the biggest one outside of, you know, the two minutes and all that other stuff is going to be the comms. And I'd love to hear your thoughts on specifically how that is going to be an advantage for Texas and the coaches. Yeah, I think that Texas is kind of a unique winner in the new helmet comms rule, which for anybody listening that doesn't know what we're talking about. In the NFL and in 2024 in college, the helmets have radios in them or at least like a helmet on each side of the ball has a radio on it. And then the coach can just speak into his headset, the play as it's written in the playbook to his quarterback or his middle linebacker to then communicate to the rest of the team. So in college, what you see it since they're not they haven't been allowed to do that in college. So instead, you have this elaborate system where either the coach sends in a player with the play call, if the team huddles, or if it's a team that wants to go fast and get up and line up as quickly as possible, they have all those like funny boards in the sideline where you'll see like pop culture references and weird symbols and they all indicate different terms from the playbook to the players. Sometimes maybe the players look at their wristbands to tell them what that means. And then that's how they receive the play call. Obviously, as we found out with the whole Michigan scandal, that was ripe for cheating. It's actually not cheating to steal signs, but there are ways you can do it that are cheating is as Michigan demonstrated. And it just adds all this amazing complexity and espionage to the game of college football, which is sort of funny and amusing to read about, but I don't think it really adds to the game. And so they finally, after the Michigan scandal, they're like, look, it's ridiculous that we don't just allow them to use radios in the helmet. The catch for Texas and a lot of teams is that Texas has a pretty deliberate pace to their offense a lot of times. So for them to have SARC, just radio in the play call to Quinn and then Quinn communicated to the team is fine. And then no one can steal their sign, right? Because they don't have a sign. But if you're a team that wants to go breakneck tempo, line up in like 10 seconds and have the play and be trying to run the ball or run the new play, the helmet communication isn't really you still need the sideline signals to get the play into all the different players. So we're not probably not going to see the sideline signal system completely evaporate from college football. You'll either you either need to go really fast to make sure that the other team is is up against it, trying to steal your signal and get a response in. Or you want to be a team that is a little more methodical like Texas, or like a killing to bore now over in Alabama on let's moving over to some specific players here. What are the what are we hearing on blood? So I mean, we had him at 14 on that list. I'd love to hear any insight that you may be able to provide for that, Eric. Yeah, that list was not based on the Yeah, I don't think the team didn't vote on 14th best player on the list. I don't think I understand that I didn't phrase it. Oh, man. Now, yeah, so I don't know how that was presented on the on the site here. That might have been the day that the beanie was cutting off the circulation to your head. I'm not sure. It's possible. Now, so that was a list based on talking to sources, you know, just kind of aggregated a couple of conversations and came up with that. But yeah, I mean, that's there's not much else to say this time of year other than Jerry blood. So it looks like the real deal. Like he's ready to take the next step. He's weighing more 290s might be low. I actually heard 300. I just, you know, I can't I can't I haven't verified that. I haven't seen him in a while. So I'm not going to say it's 300. So I went with 290 to be safe. He can play people still want to get bigger than that. I saw a comment on our YouTube channel last week that he should get even bigger with it the way without as much pop as he plays without of his stance and as as much physicality as he plays with 290s. Good. You don't want him to really lose any athleticism. You still got another year of college after this to get him right. Hopefully he stays around another year. The way we're hearing about it, it could be one of those breakouts like Byron and he could be gone. He does have that athleticism. He's actually more athletic than Byron. So I think we're hearing all the right things we want you about, Jeray. The next step will be, what do we hear about in practice once the pads come on? We've had a couple questions about Sark specifically. And in this, this transition that he's in right now is kind of establishing himself kind of in some ways the next, I don't want to go as far as to say, but obviously he's coming from that, that tree and how he approaches the game. And this one is from the board. And the question really is, is what facets do you think need the most tending to right now? Is it scouting, recruiting, scheming schemes, installing them, staff management, game planning, anything like what are the he's doing so many things so well? Are there any areas that that you're seeing or hearing about that might might be a blind spot for him or need a little bit more tweaking? Yeah, you know, those questions like that are always difficult because I feel like it's over my pay grade. I don't know enough about it. I'm not behind the scenes to that degree. Nobody in the building thinks that he's failing in any regard, you know, like as far as game planning, stuff like that. Obviously, in two of their biggest games, they got outplayed. You know, they got outplayed by OU. They got outplayed by Washington in both games. You know, Texas deserved both those losses, whereas, you know, a number of times we've seen in the past where Texas was clearly the better team throughout. And even in some of the games they lost, they lost at the end who saw that, you know, especially in his first year, saw it again a couple of times in the second year. This year was the games they lost, they just deserved to lose. They didn't play well. Too many mental mistakes. So there has to be something in the preparation that he's hopefully pointing to or looking forward to address. But as for me sitting behind a little desk in Lake Conroe, Texas, I'm not going to sit there and call out a $10 million head coach. I think he's done a fantastic job. And I do think he's probably still learning certain aspects about it. What that is, that's probably for him to articulate it forever feels like doing it. For me, I don't feel like I have the chops to really critique from my vantage point on that stuff. And this is a question mainly for the group here. Sticking with the team over necessarily SARC specifically, but what are some of the metrics to success next year? I mean, obviously Quinn winning the Heisman, you probably had a successful year, but we've got to replace some starters. Where do you see, what are some things that you're going to see and you're going to feel like, okay, we've really secured some potential fail points for us. I'm looking at how the defensive identity, they have to regroup their identity because they lost the two defensive tackles which provided their identity. I'm not saying they're going to be weak at detackle, but certainly they won't be as strong. You're not going to build around those guys in the same way. Maybe you could build around them, but it's still not going to be the same way that you did this past season. So defensive identity is a big one, but really this team should just put everybody, even when the defense doesn't play well, the offense has enough weapons. They should be putting up a lot more points on the board than what we saw this year where, you know, when they're inching into the 30s and maybe pushing up against 40, they should be clearing 40 a lot with the offensive firepower they have next year. Yeah, I'm actually, I think this offense. Thanks. I think this was better when I do all the talking guys. Yeah, that's fine. I think this offense needs to put up a lot of points, as Eric said, often and early, because that really will benefit the nature of this defense. So the beauty of Murphy and sweat is that they could play any style. If it was a powerful physical run team, they could get dirty, they could hold the point of attack and it would take four offensive linemen to block R2. And even then they weren't getting it done. And then you're winning a numbers game on defense, right? Also, they could break the pocket and they could create pressures. They could create penetration. They could do anything they want. I'm not convinced that the DT room this year, although very talented, is capable of holding up in sort of a slugfest kind of game where it's dirty between the tackles, endless pounding. Not a lot of that played into college football anymore. But our opener is going to look a lot like that. You know, the meaningful opener gets Michigan. So I think that's important that this offense stake these guys to a lead, because I think this defense with a lead and the ability to let it go and pass rush is going to look very different from last year in terms of the number and the waves of pass rushers that Texas can throw at you. And I think if you fall behind Texas early, I think it's only going to get worse for you. I have an article coming out tomorrow morning that makes much the same point that Eric just made that the identity is going to have to be pretty different because the defensive tackles like Paul is just saying, well talented are very, very different from Murphy and sweat. And so the defensive strategy has to look different as well. I think to maximize a different team, they really need Quinn to grow in the dropback passing game. Like they could probably be much better in the run game next year. But they could hit a totally different level. They would be very meaningful for playoff games if Quinn could get closer to the Colt McCoy 2008 standard, where you could call 30 progression passing plays in a game and trust him to get back there and just dice people up. He has not been there yet thus far. Obviously he's been very effective in what they have done. But if he could get there, I mean, that's just a cheat code in college football. It's virtually indefensible when you have a quarterback that can play at that level. And then the secondary, they have a tremendous amount of talent now accumulated because they have so many good young guys that are back, they added Makuba and they were able to retain barren. So they can figure out how to maximize their secondary and get the right kind of technical growth from those guys. Then you're looking at something much closer to the kind of secondary Texas has had when they've really been, you know, national championship or on the brink. Yeah, what's the worst case scenario they put back there? You've got Muhammad at one corner, Baron and Brooks, and then you got worst case they would go Makuba and Taff. That's not an easy secondary to pass on. I know there's a lot of recency bias. Everybody just saw, you know, Texas get carved up by Roma Dunes. There's no shame in that closest thing, the Larry Fitzgerald in quite some time. Roma Dunes, they killed the damn combine. There's no shame in Brooks make taking some of those losses. So I think the secondary, I think it's every year, there's a couple concerns that we beat to death and then the season comes around and you're like, yeah, maybe that wasn't such a big deal anyways. So I think the concern is not talent in a vacuum. I think the concern is coordination on the back. Yeah, I mean, that's that could be a fair complaint going back to the hiring process. So we've talked about that on inside Texas as far as quick casket, not having a guy in the back end that's married to the fronts. And that's what happens when you hire, you know, your defensive back coach before your coordinator. So they do have to come over that. They're still looking for help in the secondary as far as, you know, replacing William Gay who replaced Dwayne Aquina who replaced Gary Patterson from your prior. Yeah, we'll see if they can get some help or if those coaches can grow or what. And that's another one of those I get asked about a lot. You know, I don't have, I don't have enough detail to really speak intellectually on it. But I do know from talking to people from that, that, that Peterson tree, the Quikowski tree that you've got to have that defensive back coach that has that ties in properly to the front like you had with Jimmy Lake, famously at Washington. I mean, sticking with that Victor wants to know, is this, is this a contract year for those? I mean, obviously we, this is not our place to say it. But I mean, they've been in the, they've had the sample size now. Do we feel like this could be a contract here for Joseph and Gideon? I don't know, you know, Sarcs, I don't know how, how bad did it do they perform or under, under achieve? You know, that's, yeah, I can't say it's too early for that. I do, I think Sarc would make a change if you needed to, you know, he's made a couple changes where he needed to. You know, both two times a wide receiver coach. One was, you know, maybe he would have come back, maybe not. Andre Coleman was not coming back. So I think he'll make a change when he needs to. He seems to be pretty proactive. He seems to do a, to do a go above and beyond a win. You know, the guys, what's their whole saying this offseason is what obsessed. So I think, you know, I think everybody's coaching for their jobs to some degree, but obviously, you know, I think that Gideon and Joseph know that they have to do better than what they did in a couple of losses this year. Going back to the comms just really quickly because this is, this is a little bit of a technical question. Who are their coaches outside of the head coach that have, that are able to talk to the players? Presumably the coordinators would be the ones conners, I think, is going to have access. Oh, that's nice. Is it just he can dial in? It's a satellite situation. He can sit at home calling other teams. Russian hacking and radio operator in Des Moines, Iowa is going to take it. It's been a shack with the home, home made antenna. I'm sorry for anybody that's listening that's built one of those antennas. It's very impressive and I wasn't meaning to make fun. What do we, what do we, who else is a label allowed to communicate with the players? You know, I actually don't know the specific rule, but just reasoning through it. I don't think they're going to require that the head coach or a single person make all the incoming transmissions. So maybe they have, I don't actually don't know. I actually don't know. What's the limit? So I haven't read anything about this that missed your article over the weekend. I think it was the weekend. I was on the move a lot. Can't they still do the old way? And the coach can actually, while the, the player's being called in, the coach can actually be in the ear saying, Hey, why aren't you, you notice in this, why aren't you reading this high to low and, and tell them where to go with the ball? Yes. Right. They up to, they get up till either snap, snap of the ball or 15 seconds left in the playcock and then it, and then it turns off. Yeah, that's going to be another advantage for, that's a, that's a big advantage for Texas. Yeah, coach with UNLV during the trial period of this during the bowl season, and they, they had multiple players that could listen at the same time. I think they had up to four per side. Now, obviously that's going to change with this particular rule, but it's a, it's, it's one of those things that we talked about a little bit on the board Ian is, presumably you're going to have several defensive players that are going to have the capability to listen to those things. And they're going to be turned off depending on it, because you could have, for example, Ant Hill and TAF on field at the same time. And I would assume that one of those two would certainly have the speaker in their ear. Yeah, they, they're only allowed to have one at a time right now as the rules written as I understand it. And it needs to be somebody. TAF would call it into the defensive coaches and then they'd call it back in Ant Hill based on the legend. So hey, it has to be somebody on defense action. So defense, they're going to still use signals for at least the D line, probably most college teams, because you don't have the ability to coordinate from linebacker or safety to get every, you basically got three personnel groups, right? D line, linebacker, safety, your linebacker can help get the D line lined up, but the basic call that's going to probably still come from the sideline will probably be signals. And frankly, it's not, if someone cracks it, it's not the biggest thing in the world, right? The secondary, you're going to have the guy with the mic, the hot mic is going to be your, your mic linebacker or your smartest linebacker, or it's going to be your safety. So that's how it's going to work. And you got a young middle linebacker, a young middle linebacker, I didn't mean to cut you off. And it doesn't have to be the position. I mean, it's your smartest linebacker. Well, I'm saying that's a benefit because presumably Anthony Hill is going to be the middle linebacker. And it's his first year taking over for Jalen Ford. Maybe it goes to Bendah. I don't know. But if it is, if it is Hill, that'll help him out. The trick though is, if you communicated all the one guy, he needs to be someone that understands the whole defense well enough not to flood the call, right? He needs to know what all the different terms for all the different positions mean, so that he doesn't like, not really. Well, he at least needs to be able to be consistent with like just getting it verbatim. Yeah. And if you have us, if you try to signal in a different deal for your line, you just run into the, you just run into the, if you're communicating like just your standard fronts, it's fine. But if it looks different for a blitz and then somebody can steal your signals and know every time you're going to blitz, that's not so great. I mean, that's all it is now and things get by, but what happens when you look at it? What happens when you rotate linebackers as you know that, you know, they love to do, you know, that third series, who's going to, I mean, so let's say, can Bendah and Hill be on the same, on the field at the same time if they both have the microphone? Yeah, that's all the stuff that has to get ironed out, right? Texas, Texas has to also figure out the rotations. Yeah. As people that covered Texas, we have to worry about that with all the rotations. Yeah, exactly. What, and this is, I love Victor coming in here with some incredibly inside baseball question. Who do we see our gunners being? I mean, who's, who's going to replace our gunners next season? Oh, man, I'm going, I'm going Trey Weisner on one, and then maybe Warren Roberson as the other. What is that? Is that, is that where Taft played last year? Yeah, Taft is usually the up back and he's the guy making the special teams calls. The guys on the outside, preventing the two released guys from getting to the punt returner. Yeah, it's, I would say Trey Weisner and Warren Roberson, you know, those guys play with their hair on fire. Roberson is basically Keaton Crawford again, as far as an athlete and, you know, just pure athleticism. He's probably the most athletic DB on the team. That's, and he's a dog too. You know, we mentioned him last week on the show. So I think, yeah, it's, that's who I would predict right now, but it could be, it could be a number of who's a, you know, maybe Kobe Black earns it. DB, that's a good spot for DBs and they're starting to get a lot more DBs. Maybe Jelani McDonald's even fast enough to do it. I don't know. Any additions to that, Paul? No, nailed it. That's a great question. Great. Good job, guys. You guys are doing some really nice work here. I really appreciate it all. For our friends in the chat, you got to get a, we got a few more questions here, or we're going to make Ian start telling us bedtime stories. He said we split this for beer money. I think we got a dollar, 99 so far. So we better get something potent, man. That's an award-winning beer, Paul. I don't really feel comfortable with you besmirching that. Well, he's only been, he's three point on the board because he's been banned twice. So, I can tell you, I mean, I would respond to this, Geronimo, the way that I would in eighth grade, it's that, you know, I don't have a mom, my mom, I don't have a mom. See how sad that is? Yeah. Here we go. Elsie's mom is passing out orange slices. Yeah, and it's coming from a Wonder Bread bag that's been turned inside out because that's what poor folk doing, Kansas. I don't need to hear this business from you. Wow. All right, Paul, I'm sorry, guys. This is getting really personal. I want to thank you all for checking in with us today. I think everybody's done a great job. I'm really impressed with how Eric has handled his new lighting scheme. Ian has his microphone working and I don't know what Paul's doing. It's, what's your favorite book back there, Paul? I haven't read any of them. I just have it. Have you not? I don't read at all. I just have that up to be a pseudo intellectual. Okay. All right. Well, once again, we want to thank everybody.