Not Your Common Conversation Podcast
Episode 22 | “Lightning Rounds”
(upbeat music) Come everybody, this is Omar Henderson and we're so glad that you're joining us this afternoon or today. I'm here with my partner Chris Downey and our friend Dom. Dom, what's your last name? - Mendez. - Dom Mendez, and we got Brandon Bailey Harper on working as the engineer for this afternoon. And you are about to listen to another episode of Not Your Common Conversation. Now, today we got a bit of a different format. We're gonna have lightning rounds. That means we're gonna do 15 minutes of one subject and at the end of that 15 minutes we're gonna change subject. That way we can cover more ground and I don't know if you're gonna have an opportunity to say everything you wanna say, but you know, we're just gonna-- - Trying to get it all out. - And trying to get it all out. So, so Chris, Brandon, Dom, who wants to start off, start to take us off? Who wants to start us off? - In this lightning round. How many minutes we got? - We got 15 minutes and the minute you start talking. - Is that too long? - No, you like five or 10 minutes per-- - No, that's too short. - What do you mean? - Well, look, I tell you what, let's do 15. - I think 15 is good. - Let's do 10, let's do 10, let's do 10. - Yeah, well, Turkey's, man. - That's too long, you get, yeah, yeah. - I got plenty to say. - I know you. All right, I'll start off, guys. - All right. - I wanted to, and we, Dom and I touched on this before the mics came on, and we were just talking about, I did some traveling recently, he did some traveling, and I don't know, maybe it's me, but it feels like America is fleecing America. Like, America is jacking America. I mean, you go places, I was in Maine. I was sharing, I was in Kitty Bunkport, Maine, and where the, I just gotta say, didn't see any black people there at the whole time until I got to Bar Harbor. But anyway, that's the whole other thing. And that's cool, that's all right. 'Cause there are many places that there are a lot of black people and there are white people, so I mean, they're all even south. So, but just happens to be, excuse me, hood, when that happens. It's not, the limit's not that great. But my point is, is that I went somewhere, I actually purchased, let me see, I got a lobster. I thought it was gonna be a lobster roll, it was actually a lobster sandwich. - Okay. - I got a little thing of coast love. - Yeah. - A little thing of fries, regular order fries. And she got fried clams, just a box of fried clams. And this was all served in what you would be served in, like, you know, a box like at a football basketball or I guess a baseball game. And it was close to $70. - Per person or altogether? - All together. - Wow. - I mean, it was like, so the sandwich, the fries and the coast lock was like, I think, 38 bucks. - Wow. - And they said it to me, I mean, it was like with a straight face. - Oh, they're trained to do that. - Yo, I mean, I've never gotten robbed and gotten to recede at the same time. - Yeah. - I was like, wow, they robbed me again. They're going to be out of the first seat. But I mean, I just, it occurs. I mean, that's just one. - And that's the home of the lobster. - And that is right. Right, they get the lobster right out the war. - Doesn't have to travel, so that no plane ticket. - Nothing, no, no. But they, I mean, and everywhere we went, it was just ridiculous. The prices, I don't know if you've been to Maine, but I mean, the prices are more than it is here. - Yeah, it's fewer people, man. - It's fewer people than Maine. - Maine plug from another black person, beautiful place. If you can get there, I recommend it. - Absolutely, 100%. So we got hip, and when we got the bar hop, we went, so we go to play in a Boston, fluent, I mean, fluent in Boston, drove over to downtown Portland, Maine. - Oh, Portland, Portland, Maine, yeah. Great atmosphere, very cool. The people were cool, it was like we went downtown, Portland, it was like, you know, it was like any downtown, you know, kind of like-- - Very progressive. - Yeah, very progressive music. The lobster people were very kind, very sweet. I mean, really nice people. We just didn't see, we might have saw maybe one or two black people in downtown Portland, man. I don't wanna, I don't wanna give Maine a bad name. Anyway, it just, it wasn't, you know. And then we went over to Kenny Bunkport, Maine, and then we drove over to Conway, New Hampshire, did not see any black people there. And then we went over to Bar Harbor, where I'm surprising, we talked about this, there was some Jamaican folks, they wanted, I asked the folks, they wanted work release program or something, they wanted work release. They weren't like, you know-- - Boot you was a billion people like us. - We felt like we were like the special blacks. We were like, wow, we can go, we can come in. - Yeah, you know, so in reality, African Americans make up, well, they may have grown since the mass immigration from Africa itself, but as far as us, you know, slave descendants, we only make up 13%. - Yeah, but hang on, Omar, I don't wanna get off topic. I wanna stay on topic. My topic is to talk to speak to that. My topic is that America is expensive as hell. - Oh, okay. - I mean, whether you buy a house, a car, clothes would have you, food, it's like we've outpriced ourselves. Am I the only one that feels that way? - No, I think, well, you know, no, you're not. - Should I bought two new tires on my car and it was like $700? - Yeah. - Shit, I used to buy a car for $700. - No, I went to try to get a new pair of sunglasses, prescription sunglasses like Revos or something. You know, the woman just hands them to me right away and of course I'm like, oh, these are beautiful, $800. - What? - This is filling the, you know, with my prescriptions. - Oh, definitely. - And she's like, well, yeah, it's not just like a stock price to fill these lenses, like Revos are more expensive for whatever reasons. - And this is after my, well, so I get like a little piddly $100 from my iMed, right? - Yeah, right. - It's like, so it's like 729. - Yeah, yeah, I've been there. - And I just felt poor and I was like, yeah, I'm gonna have to think about it. (laughing) - I'm gonna put this on, lay it wet. (laughing) - So real quick. - I mean, but now you get there oftentimes you go to places and you listen, we do pretty well. I mean, we're, I guess, considered - Very middle class, very middle class. - Very, very middle class. And shit's expensive, man. - It's pretty expensive. - And it doesn't make any sense to me. Like there doesn't seem to be a light at the end of the tunnel. - No, no, the only thing that we know to do is when we had Kendall in here. - Yeah. - And she was like, you know, if you wanted to-- - Oh, the money, the money. - Yeah, the money thing, you know, like take, share your expenses. She didn't say cut, she said share. - Share your expenses to me, I guess share it with, I mean, if you have a roommate. - A roommate, exactly. Share your expenses, that's one thing to do. And, you know, we've often talked about the fact that that's what a lot of immigrant families do. I haven't like witnessed it firsthand, but I hear about it. You know, people from Korea, people from, especially Asian countries, they live-- - They pool their-- - They pool their money, that's what I hear. You know, they get-- - Central Americans for sure. - They get big houses. - Right. - So they get big houses and they put everybody in the house. - So this topic is interesting, real quick. - Yeah, what you got made me think of this chart that I brought up is from smartasset.com. It's what does $100,000 salary feel like in these cities, right? - Oh, wow. - And what did I say? - So let's breathe it, hold on real quick. New York, 35,791 dollars is what $100,000 feels like. - Wow. - Arlington, Virginia, $49,989. - That's what $150,000, that's what $100,000 feels like. - Wow. - And it's charted-- - That's cut by like almost 60%. - Literally, that's what it feels like. And that's to your point of inflation we have. So basically you keep your most money in Charlotte, North Carolina, $100,000 will feel like 72 grand. - Okay. - And Houston, Texas, $81,000 will feel like, no. And Houston, Texas, $100,000 will feel like 81 grand, I'm sorry. - Wow. - That's interesting. - Is there a place that 100 grand will feel like 100 grand? (laughing) - Yeah, I'm sure it's in Mississippi. - Yeah. - All right, all right. - Oh, you know Alaska. And to determine the actual value of 100,000 in various regions across the country, smartasset, and that analyzed the after-tax income of 76 major US cities and adjusted the data for the cost of living in each area. So it is a-- - And that's the other thing, man. You said tax. They take a whopping amount of taxes. - You take a third, about a third, right? - Yeah, well, it's interesting. 33%, I found out that I'm in a 26 percentile tax bracket. - So you're taking 26% out of-- - They take 26% out of every paycheck that I get, you know, and that knocks down, you know, quite a few hundred dollars, and-- - I mean, listen, we're making all, I believe we're making all kinds of adjustment for the obvious, the rich, rich gets richer. I mean, you know what I mean? I mean, we do okay, but what about people who don't do as well as we do? I mean, we feel it, so I can imagine other folks. - I mean, you know, growing up, man, if somebody had like a $200,000 house or $250,000 house, it was like they had a mansion or something. - Yeah, well-- - And now we know $250,000 house yet will not happen anywhere. I don't know if it happens anywhere in America, maybe. - Oh my God, condos maybe? - At one point, I remember that there was a house for sale on Seven Locks Road, you know where that is, right? - Yeah, perfect. - Yeah, 30 grand. - Whoa. - How long, when was that? - This was 40, 50 years ago. - I knew you were about a little one, yeah. - Yeah, 30 grand, 30 grand. - 30, yeah, yeah, that-- - My parents bought their house with 26 grand. - That same house is worth what now? - That house eventually sold for like 900 grand. - Yeah, so I get, oh, we got a little-- - That's your time. - That's your time. - That's all right. - Let's take it to 15, man, let's take it to 15. - Do we have another sound other than that music? No, no, we can't have music. - Oh, yeah, yeah, we don't wanna pay for that. - Copy, right, yeah. - Yeah. - This is a ringtone. - Yeah, it belongs to-- - It belongs to-- - Yeah, it belongs to Apple or whatever, yeah. - It belongs to a ringtone, not a ringtone. - All right, you're 10 minutes is up, but I'll grace you another five if you like. - No, no, no, I just wanna say, it's something to look at as we live in this world. Like, I just wonder, what does it look like five years from now, 10 years from now, and how do we just maintain this more, more paying for more, more, more, and getting less, less, less, feels like? - Well, that's an open question. I just wanna jump in with this Omar, like, don't you think this whole excuse about supply chain was this giant scam during COVID? Everything was chalked up to supply chain. - Yeah, I know, partly. I mean, it got blurry, you know, because, I mean, I imagine on some level-- - People started stockpiling. - Cold, yeah. - They were scared. They started buying shit. - And there was even instances where people were gouging, you know? - Oh yeah, there was gouging going on. - There was gouging going on, and so I just wonder why we do this as Americans. Like, I know this is a capitalistic society we live in, America, but I'm like, damn. - Well, you know, yeah. - Yeah. - Don't we care, I mean, it seems to be like, money is more important than anything on the planet, and it's like, when you get to that, then we're back to, again, savages, Game of Thrones. It just scares me, like, I don't know. - Do we wanna go into the next topic? - Yeah, yeah, listen, that's what we got. - I think I can maybe flow from that. - Okay, go for it. - All right, how much time do you want? You want 10 or 15 minutes? - You can start me with 10. - Okay, all right, if you need 15 minutes. - Oh, you're on. - Just what you're saying. I think that this is what Americans are willing to pay for, and it's also what we're willing to allow by the people we elect. So that said, I wanna say that the elevation of Tim Walls to the Kamala Harris platform, to her, you know, to her candidacy, I think that marks the end of neo-liberalism in America. And so at least in the Democratic Party. So when I say neo-liberalism, you think about the Clintons. Everything was about satisfying what the rich donors told them to do, you know, what the rich folks from the sidelines were trying to say. - And you think that they're gonna come in different? - If they went, if they went, but getting this guy, Tim Walls, and I wish I had a list of everything that he had accomplished in Minnesota. - He feels like a good guy. - Yeah, it's like a progressive's wet dream, you know what I mean? Obviously certain things that you might feel a little, for example, the writer trying to get him for the, they call him Tampon Tim, because he's saying that Tampons have to be available in male and male bathrooms, in high school. - Oh, because he's for the whole, you know, gender. - Yes, yeah. - Gender affirmation. - Yeah, I know that might make some people squeamish or whatever, but the fact is that there are many girls, young girls who need those products. - I think it's great. - Same thing with the, what are you doing with the food, for the young kids, free food for the young kids? - Free lunch and breakfast. - Because it's proven that when kids are fed that they can concentrate on the lesson. - It's so funny that the far right is gonna tear that up and make that turn it into a bad thing. - Well, that's why this guy's dangerous, because he's essentially, you could always get at the Democrats by saying the Democrats would just really just subject to this criticism. Like, oh, so liberal or socialism, you know? - Yeah. - Well, if you ride, if you go to a public school, that's socialism. You know, I mean, if you drive on a paved road, that's socialism, you know? So he's saying, you know what? If kids are being fed, you know what I mean? I'm letting women make up their determiner, their health, then that's fine. And I'm a monster, you know what I mean? - Yeah. - I mean, no, no, I mean, we're talking politics and so, I mean, so the last time we talked about, I think we talked about the attempted assassination. - Oh, yeah. - Is that all that? Was that all? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And so here we are, I'm glad you brought that up, Dom, 'cause here we are, you weren't on that episode, but you weren't on the episode prior to that. And so much has changed. - Oh my God. - And that, what, two or three weeks? Two weeks? Here we had this assassination attempt. We had Biden step down and Kamala Harris step in as candidate for a democratic presidency. And she's just picked her vice president, Tim Walz. - Tim Walz, yeah. - But, but before, I don't wanna get-- - I just don't wanna get-- - Yeah, I wanna stay on top again. I kinda think you're pulling away from this topic. - Okay, go ahead, go ahead. - Well, what do you got? (laughing) - Well, the first thing I wanted to say in response to what he said, and I have to, oh man, I gotta dig down for this. Oh, Republicans want money. As you said earlier, it's all about money, so they don't wanna spend money. - Very little regulation. - Yeah, and they don't wanna spend money, which is iron, which is ironic, because they don't wanna spend money on children's health, right? And they, I guess it should be up to the states or whatever. So there's always like, that's always the question, well, whose tax dollar is gonna pay for that? And that's what, you know, I don't want my tax dollar to pay for blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then, what the irony is, they want, they keep their money, they want less government, but they want the government to impose less government, which is like, stupid, it's like, okay. He want the government to impose less government. That's weird, but okay, I get what you want anyway. So. - Yeah. - Anything else on that, Don? - Well, I think what we're seeing, and look, I don't know if we spoke about this before, I'm one of the people that sort of wanted Biden to stay in the race. - I know. - Because, you know, there's the power of incumbency, you know, and it's just hard, right there, you automatically have an advantage, having served four years. - Sure, sure. - And frankly, you know, this is America. - And he's running against a guy that he previously won. - Beat, that's right. But, you know, there's a thing called the Bradley Effect, where Mayor Bradley in LA, he was leading in the polls, this is probably like the late 70s, early 80s or something. He was leading by like 15 points in the polls, like, yeah, he's gonna be the first black mayor or whatever. And, you know, I don't even know, I guess it would have been governor. And sure enough, the day came, and he lost, probably you'd have to look it up, but he probably lost by a couple points. - Yeah. - And like, how does that happen? It's because people who say they're gonna vote for the black person, all of a sudden change their minds on election day, you know? - Right, right. - So, I just look at, okay, so now you're trying to elect the first black, actually, now that the conversation has changed, I'm just saying that I wanted him to run because I just figured, like, the white guy has the best chance of winning. - No, I get it, I get it, I get it. I mean, but you can't ignore the fact that he stepped in. I mean... - He masterminded the whole thing, bro. - I think so, too. - He masterminded the whole thing. - I've been saying it's a rope-a-dope, they just rope it up. - And I'm gonna tell you this right now, like, people think Biden is some feeble old man, this is what he did. He stacked the deck for Kamala, because the same sort of people from the sidelines, in this case, the Silicon Valley folks, they don't want, a lot of these folks don't want a democratic administration because they're going to get at regulating what they do. - Their business. - Regulating their business. That's a whole new business there. - And crypto. - And crypto, exactly. So, a lot of these white guys who are like, "Yeah, Joe, we need to just step down." They were ready to leapfrog Kamala, who is the vice president, who is unincumbent and who should actually, no one should have been discussing anyone other but Kamala. And like, again, you're gonna piss off these legion of black women, black women, black people, black women, who are the most, the base of the Democratic Party. So, what Joe did, he said, "I see what's going on, and I see Nancy and Nancy wanted the same people." Barack wanted this open primary. Do you know what upheaval that would have caused? - We would have definitely lost. - So, Joe is like, "You know what? I'm gonna step down, and I put all of my support behind Kamala." So, he's like, "What's you gonna do? Go against-- - Hell, it's just move. - What are you gonna do? "Go against this legion of black people/women." When you say, "The sitting vice president is not good enough to assume the role, we need to go and find the best white guy for the job." Or even Gretchen Whitmer, the best white woman. So, he got them in a box. And once that groundswall happened, it's a momentum that we're seeing to this day. You're not gonna stand in the way of that train and be like, "Yeah, no, I think we should open this up." - That's an interesting perspective. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, excuse me. It was, if he planned that, it was brilliant. - It was. - 'Cause Trump, in the Republican Party, looked like they didn't see that coming. - They didn't plan for anyone else. - No. And they're trying to figure it out. And they got this guy, J.D. Vance. - Shady Vance? - Shady Vance. - Shady Vance, I've heard him call. - Shady Vance, it's gonna be a great race. I mean, it's, I gotta say, man, it's a thrilling manila. - Yeah. - Who doesn't like a good fight? - Yeah, so I guess that would be my MVP is this guy walls. 'Cause I don't know if you heard any of his speech, what he was saying yesterday. - I heard a little bit of it. - Yeah. - He got me, I'm gonna tell you why I like this guy. I got some of it right here, if you wanna hear it. - Oh, yeah. - Yeah, throw a little-- - Just make sure you hold the front and right, too. - Yeah, yeah, you could turn up a little bit. - Now, Trump would damn sure take us backwards. Let's be clear about that. - I love him. (crowd chanting) - And don't believe him when he plays dumb. He knows exactly what Project 2025 will do to restrict our freedoms. - Yeah. (crowd cheering) (crowd cheering) - To rig the economy to help the super rich. - Yeah, yeah. I like the guy, 'cause he's a school teacher and coach. I just think it takes a special person to be that. I really do, black or white or anybody. - Oh, yeah. - In most cases, I mean, you sacrifice, and there's a certain humbleness that you take on to take that role as a teacher. And so, I think he seems to be a genuine guy. I think he's good. I mean, I think some of those places that she might have trouble with even conservative people. 'Cause he kinda, it sometimes reads almost like a Republican. - Yeah. - And so, I think the optics look good. - Oh, yeah, I think we have a strong, Democrats have a strong, strong chance of winning. And Trump, I gotta say this. Trump doesn't, I listen to him. This morning, I got up and I listened to Fox News. Seriously, I just listened to Fox, and they had the black guy. What's this, they mourned somebody, the black guy. And he was in this place somewhere. I think he was in, he might've been in Minnesota, Missouri or something like that. - Midwest? - Midwest somewhere, you know, had all these white folks there, and they asked him questions. And he doesn't really answer the questions. He literally, it's like you could put a card in, I'm dating myself. You could put a card in radio stations where they just put the thing in, it's like, "Hey, I've done it, I almost sounds like he's a car salesman." Hey, come on down to Trump, always my bill, and we'll be on the line, we're gonna, we're gonna frack, frack, and drill, drill, drill. And you asked him, "So, what about, you know, I can't afford to pay my rent? We're gonna drill, drill, drill." He just says the same stuff, it's just, and that's his thing, he doesn't really, he doesn't really answer the question specifically. He says the same talking points over and over and over. It's almost like he's talking to one person only. It's so, he has one audience that he's talking to. And it doesn't feel wholesome, it doesn't feel real, and I gotta say, yesterday, that conference, with them speaking, it seemed real to me. It seemed wholesome, seemed like people are tied with divisiveness, and they can say hope and change and, you know, is a corny thing. But that's what people want, again, the day, that, you know, it's not that deep. It's not that deep, man, you're making this way crazy. - The interesting thing about that is talking to our friend Lateef, he said, "People respond more to negative catalysts than positive catalysts." - Sure, sure. - You know, and so that-- - It's a shame. - It's a shame. - It's a shame, and that's what's giving Trump the edge, is that people are responding to, you know, what they're afraid of, as opposed to what's possible. - True. - You know? So there's that, and we're past our 10 minutes. (upbeat music) All right, so, Brandon, you want to take up next? - Nah, you can go next. - Uh-oh. - Brandon's got a-- - Brandon's sitting on something. - Oh, you got something, you're sitting on the last. All right, so check this out, so Kamala chose walls, and then there's a little bit of pushback because she didn't choose Shapiro, and, you know, and then there's this concern that the Democrats are running scared, and that it occurs as anti-Semitic that she didn't choose Shapiro, right? You know, that kind of pisses me off that anti-Semitism kind of gets thrown as an umbrella phrase for everything that goes on. - Right. - You know, now, when I spoke to you earlier today, I was telling you about Zionism, because that's something that I think that really needs to get cleared up. There's a difference between being anti-Semitic and being anti-Zionist, but actually, when I looked up the definition of Zionism, it was quite interesting because it was basically saying, standing for or being committed to the creation of an Israeli state. All right, there's nothing wrong with that. - No. - There's nothing wrong with that at all. The problem is they're treating the indigenous people a lot like the white people treated the American Indians, and how can they let that go on again? Like all over again. Like all over again. - It's a part time. - You're gonna annihilate people so that, and most of these, most of the, a lot, most of them, basically, the Jewish people in Israel are of European descent. - Eastern European. - Eastern European descent. - Coming from Brooklyn in many cases. - And so, you know, you're allowing this to happen, but the real deal is, it's not anti-Semitic, it's anti-butality. It's anti, it's, and if I call a Jewish person brutal, and they're acting like a brute, then that's what they are. - Absolutely. - They're a brute. I'm not being anti-Semitic. Yeah. - Exactly. - How many times have we, as human beings, done this, you know, annihilate a people or obliterate their structure so that we can claim, okay, now we got what they had, and it's ours now. And how ignorant, no, not ignorant, I don't want to call names, but how much does the public allow this to go on? It's like avoiding the obvious answer in order to keep strife going. I don't quite understand why people don't, can't distinguish between anti-this and anti-brut. You know, it's even in the media, just throws it in there. They just throw it in there. There's no clarity, and I'm thinking to myself that those who are in power are not even taking the time to distinguish between what is really anti-Semitism and what is anti-brut. - It's lazy. - Yeah. - Yeah, I guess it's lazy. I guess it's lazy, but. - It's convenient maybe because they don't want to piss off some of their donors, or in this case, they don't want to be packed, right? The American-Israeli political action committee. And they just beat Cory Bush in Missouri, right? They beat Jamal Bowman about a month earlier with throwing all of their money at opposition. - And they also funded our Congressman, Glenn Ivey. - Oh, okay. - Yeah, they gave Glenn Ivey seven million bucks. - Yep. - Yeah. And so it's funny because when this thing happened in October, I called my Congressman and I was like, I am not supporting, I am not in support of the U.S. sending weapons to Israel. It's been going on too long, I've given all my reasons, and they're using it beyond just defending themselves, right? They're using it to really take land that's not theirs. - And kill Palestinians. - And kill Palestinians. And the irony is that there's plenty of land there that's just sitting there. It's just sitting between villages, you have swaths of land. They're just sitting there. You can build a settlement out there. Don't take somebody else's home. And you've got enough money and backing from the U.S. to run all the pipes and the gas lines and the electricity that you want to run. Go ahead, you can have it. - But it's mine. - But it's mine. - So just jumping on your point Omar, I think once again with walls, the repudiation of Shapiro, 'cause that's what the Clintons would have done. You know that. The Clintons would have done with Shapiro. They would have pictured Pero. Obama might have, you know, I'm sorry to jump on it brother, but he's like, we don't want to piss off this very important donor base in the United States. - Yeah. - Yeah, well, you know, you might say that, but my recollection is that Obama did not have a very warm relationship with Netanyahu nor did he have a warm relationship with the Saudis. - Yeah. - Yeah. So it was something about him that like his, it was something about him that was like, I'm not falling in line here. - You're right. I think deep down he knows something's wrong, but any American president has to maintain that. - It has to. - That friendly relationship with the Saudis and with Israel. - Yeah. - Like what was it 16 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi? - Yeah. - Why did Bush do? He allowed the Saudi family to round their folks up in the US and get the hell out of Dodge. - Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah. - Well, that's of that money flow. - Yeah. (laughing) - So. - Here we go. Right back to the money thing. - But no, I think it was a sign to the Democrats were saying we're not going to be as beholden as we have been to Israeli interests. - Yeah, well, I hope not because. - Yeah, and I'm sure he, I'm sure he has the same positions. However, with Shapiro, he wrote something when he was in his, and when he was 20. - It was obvious. - That said, the Palestinians cannot be governed. They're too battle minded. I think was the term battle minded. He wrote it when he was 20. - That's interesting. - Yeah, and that type of 20 year old is different from a 20 year old who is just fucking about going to the mall, whatever. I mean, this guy knew when he was 20, he was probably going to be a politician. - Sure, sure, sure. But there's a bigger issue, you know, that is just an example of how, and I don't know if this is globally, but I know it's how we are in America. And it's an example of how Trump is winning, or not winning, but how he's able to survive. And their example is we tend to overlook what's factual to pursue what we feel like we want. And then the media doesn't really work to clarify anything. It really doesn't work to distinguish what's so, what's real. Now, not completely. I mean, you know, Trump will say something from the microphone and then you have these fact checkers and all that kind of stuff. - Yeah, it depends on what network too. - Yeah, it depends on what network as well. And that's, it's really frustrating for me. - Yeah, it depends on what network is. - And that's, it's really frustrating for me personally. 'Cause it gets in the way of what's possible between human beings, what's possible here in the United States. And, you know, you hear from Kamala Harris that she says, "I'm here for all of you." Okay, well, we'll see how well that works, you know, and I hope she's not lying. But yeah, that's just, there's just a bigger issue of ignoring everything that can really contribute to a greater, you know, I'm trying to fall short of saying, unified body of US citizens. I don't know if that's even possible, but I guess greater civility and acceptance, more conversations that will bridge gaps as opposed to, you know, just leaving things out there and everybody's falling on the one side or the other 'cause they hear CNN say one thing or Fox say another thing and it's like, - I do think the Democratic Party leans more that way, at least on the surface they do and I hope it's genuine than the Republicans. - Well, who's as nasty on the Democratic side as like your typical Republican... - Oh, that was the other thing I wanted to say. - Well, hang on, hold on, just to his point, who is? I don't know. - Well, actually, that's a good... - Who's as nasty, who's an equivalent on the Democratic side that's as nasty as Trump or who else? - J.D. Vance, childless cat ladies. - I know, who says things like... - Well, see, that's just it. This is the great thing about Kamala and Walz. This is the great thing because they know how to use rhetoric and that was a big deal. You know, it's funny 'cause when Kamala first accepted or when Biden dropped out and said he supported her, that was my concern because what connects with people is rhetoric. - It is, it is. - And so that's what the Republican Party is good for throwing out all that rhetoric. - Yeah. - Build the wall. - Build the wall. - I love this. - I love, and I think Walz is the one who coined this. That's just weird. - That's weird, that's weird. - Yeah, it's not only that, but he also said something about J.D. Vance, like, you know, he said, "I'm ready to debate J.D. Vance, you know, if he's ready to get off the couch." I mean, that's the kind of rhetoric. Oh yeah, he said that. - You gotta watch it. - That's the kind of rhetoric. - Yeah, we need that, that's probably why, and that's another reason why she picked him. I mean, he seems, they seem to be bad already. - Yeah. - But I know Brandon's over there, right? - Okay, I wanna, I had a few topics, but we still got, we still got Tom. - We still got Tom, we got plenty of time. - Well, what else you got? - So, this is just a funny one, I'm sure y'all have seen it before. Trump went to the National Association of Black Germany. - Oh yeah, yeah. - And I'm just gonna play the clip when they were discussing what he believed. Come on, here's his race to what's up. Is that what's good? - Only on the ticket because he is a black woman. - Well, I can say, no, I think it's maybe a little bit different. So, I've known her a long time indirectly, very much, and she was always of Indian heritage, and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago, when she happened to turn black, and now she wants to be known as black. So, I don't know, is she Indian or is she black? - She is always, I don't know. - But you know what? - I respect either one. - I respect either one, but she obviously doesn't. Because she was Indian all the way, and then all of a sudden, she made a turn, and she went, she became a black woman. - Just be clear, she became a black woman. - She said, look into that too, when you ask. - Brandon, thank you for that. - I know that was funny. First of all, we have to talk about that, 'cause that was hilarious. - People could be more than one thing, first of all. - Yeah, there's bi-racial kids. - You can embrace, which is, I always thought of as really cool and nice, any mix, 'cause you can pull from it, just makes you more rounder, even if possible. - But do you think that it is wrong? (laughs) - If you came up through your political career, leaning on one race, and now you see the effectiveness of leaning in another part of your race to win this particular race. - I don't think she ever did. - Yeah, I never thought that she was. - I never thought that she was. - Okay, cool, 'cause they have stuff coming out about like they got her baby pictures coming out like when she had the Indian garb on. - She got, no, I'm not saying nothing wrong with it, but I'm saying that when she would announce herself coming up, it was Indian, not-- - I never had to remember that. - Yeah, and I've been following up on that. - How would you interpret it? - Yeah, and I don't like that line. - She comes, I love, 'cause she has to say, I don't know if you guys, before she even, the whole thing came out about her running for president. She, she, she, she comes, she does these things on, I think it's on Instagram, maybe on Facebook too, where she comes, she walks out of a record store. - Oh yeah. - And she has records. - Yeah. - And you know, I mean she has Roy, yeah, she has me. - She pulled up my additional orchestra. - She did? - She pulled up my - She pulled up my additional orchestra. - Yes, she pulled up holy moly. - Holy moly. - Chris Fun from Baltimore, bass player, jazz bass player from Baltimore, I know very well. - Oh wow. - And that was, it was very cool. I mean, she, she listens, I mean, I've never, I never heard anything about her being Indian. - One, yeah. - Yeah. - Look, I, sorry Brandon, I think what they, and when I say they, it's like the Republican opposition is basing this off as I believe an Associated Press article, it could be from 2016 or something like that. - Before we knew her in 2020, she ran for president, everybody was like, hell no. And now she's running now. And it's like, before all of that, before she came into public consciousness. - Right. - Like, I don't like the Howard line, just because it feels like your stereotype in black people as if people that aren't black go to HBCC. There's plenty of white people, plenty of Asian people, plenty of Latino people that go to HBCC. - That's only recently though. That's only when Kamala was going in the late '80s. That was the only black people. - Yeah, yeah. - Oh, okay. - Yeah, I didn't know that. - When she was going in the late '80s, I mean, I have homies that went to Hampton. - Yeah, yeah. - And this was like, in the night and, you know, they started going in 1990. - Yeah. - And the whole phenomenon of white students going to HBCC. - That was like a big deal. - That's probably about maybe 15 years old. But when she was going to Howard, no, it was what you were black if you were going to, not to say you were-- - You know how we're now, when I was going up, it's like everybody be out here. It's not like, you know, well, I get that, I get that. - Kamala Harris is exactly the same age I am. We're exact 59, more than the exact same year. So she gets all the references. - Yeah. - That is utter, what he did was, and I think black people should be pissed off and up and on. Like, that was some cold-blooded. - It's a wedge. - It is a wedge. - It's a wedge. - That's all he does. He does it. - Devides people. - And if you don't do your homework, you're going to get caught up in it. He knows that the average person, especially young people, aren't doing it. They have no reference and they're not doing it. So he's throwing out stuff for you to go, oh, okay. - Yeah, that's the very point. - That's the point that's lost, that's what I'm saying. I'm glad you made that Howard point because that is a point that's lost to my generation and younger, it's like we can't think of like, when y'all say HBCU, y'all mean it in y'all time where it was like, it's a black school. - This is a black school. - Yeah, this is black people everywhere. - Yeah, and you know, I'm going to be honest with you. - 'Cause now HBCU is trendy. - If somebody gets show up, we were like, "Why are you here?" - Yeah, yeah. (laughing) - You know, now it's true. - Right, right. - Yeah, I would tell you. - Oh. - Now everyone goes there and it's kind of like, it's a trendy kind of thing. - Or was it like that back in the deck? - Nah, that's a great point. - Now, it's a great point. - That's a great point. - She joined the black-- - Sorority. - Black sorority, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - She's crazy, black sorority. - You're not going to do that if you don't associate with the Negro. So you're not going to do that. - And it's funny 'cause the crowd at the event is just all thousands of black journalists and they're just laughing at it. So it's just like funny where it's like, you gotta arrive with your people. But when he comes there, everyone is like, "Oh my God, it's so funny." But then when you're done laughing, you're like, "This motherfucker wild, though." (laughing) - Yeah, he wildest. (laughing) Let me see, he says stuff like that because they caught him. And you can see, see, that's the thing about Trump. You can make Trump come apart. - Yeah. - Oh yeah. - Because he has talking points. If you get him off his game, it's like a boxer. If a boxer is used to going southpaw instead of Northpaw, they're totally throwing off. - Right, yeah. - And so you can beat him because they're not ready to make that adjustment. They can only play one way. - Well, I think, wasn't it Trump's team that cut the whole thing short? - Yes. (laughing) - 'Cause he was drowning. - 'Cause he was drowning. - Yeah, he was drowning. - Yeah, yeah, I only seen the clip. - And then he said, "You were 30 minutes late." You know, and all this. - Yeah. - He insulted, I think the woman from Fox, the black woman from Fox conservative. I don't know if the woman that was all the way on the other hand. - Yeah, Harris Faulkner. - Is that her name? - Yeah, the black Fox news woman. - Yeah, she was kinda, I think, a little pissed off. Like, dude, what are you saying? Like, it just was separate. - Brad and I have a couple of things, right? One about that whole excuse. Isn't it funny that he knows what he's doing? He was telegraping to the world that black people can't get their shit together 'cause they had audio issues. The reason why it was late was because they wanted to do PolitiFact, live fact checking, and he wanted no part of it. So this was an active impasse while before he hit the stage. But what does he do? Oh yeah, yeah, they had some audio problems. And maybe they hit like, you know, maybe check this out before we did this. - All that. I can't hear and all that. You could hear when you need to hear and then you didn't want to hear. You're like, I can't hear. - But the thing about it is to your other point, which is, I think, lost on people that aren't in his base is that like, they don't care about none of that. Like, the only thing that they want to see is, wow, he went into the belly of the beast. Y'all say, y'all don't like me, y'all don't respect me. Okay, I'm gonna come to y'all event. I don't even have to be here. I'm already, quote unquote, winning or whatever the case may be, just survived. The quote unquote assassination attempt. So it's like, he goes there and then they're like coming at him with that same kind of energy. But it's all like, if you wanna do that, you gotta actually be good at that. Like, you know what I mean? - Every candidate does that. - Yeah, so what I mean is that I think that it should be a different approach altogether 'cause I think the approach that they take it always leaves it to be where I just came in. Like you said, I did my salesman thing and got up out of there. I didn't lose nothing. - Yeah, that's what I think he wanted to do. - It takes a patient and I think patient and what I'm trying to say, skilled, but not necessarily skilled, it's like letting him, well, one of the things that they did do, which is good, was they let him talk 'cause he talked himself into a trap. - Yeah, all you gotta do is let him talk. - Yeah, and so you gotta be patient, don't get anxious. And hit him where it hurts, you know? I mean, I'm waiting for them to comment. I'm waiting for somebody to comment about him personally and be like, you know, dude, you gotta settle your daddy issues away from the White House. Don't bring it to the company. - Wow, wow. - Oh yeah, 'cause, I mean-- - See, something like that would unnerve. - Oh, he told me what you got when you do that, you gotta be ready to come back with you. - That's what I'm saying, like a lot of people say that, but everybody says that when they get in the ring with the person it is, they get, whoa, whoa, and they can't even, that's why Obama was so smooth because if they faced off against each other, Obama's in this way where it's like, nah, I'm not even, in a genuine way, like I don't even care, the world cares so much about every little thing that it's powerful. Like, so it's like, if he comes here, if he says, even Tim Walsh and Kamala Harris speech, they always just, Donald Trump this and Donald Trump, I'm like, y'all, I feel like if Obama was there, he'd be like, yo, this is what we doing, y'all over there with that? Okay, cool, y'all will, yeah, you know what I mean? - I'm gonna say something about it. - It's too, yeah, it's too, yeah, I don't know. - I feel like Trump has nothing of substance to really say. - Well, he never actually answered any questions. - No, he never does. - His MO is just over talk, over talk, and try to cower the other person so that they just say, let's move on, but he was facing the black journalist and he doesn't do these types of things. It's usually something that's scripted and controlled. So he was literally drowning, they were like, yo, let's wrap up. - Let's wrap this up, y'all. Say good for us right now. - It's not working. - When he said blacks and you blacks, then like black people don't like you saying black, nobody likes it. - Like that? - Black. - And then you turn black. - You turn black. - What do you know about turning black, Donald Trump? - And then he said, what did he say? Oh, they asked him about the black jobs. Well, you know, what did black jobs do? He was like, the job, you know, all the jobs. Well, you didn't say white jobs, you said specifically black jobs. You didn't say Latino jobs, you said black jobs. - Well, he didn't say Latino. He said the Mexicans are coming for the black and Latino jobs. - There it is. - A wet job. - Yeah, what is that? Is that different from the Asian and white jobs? - You know? - What he's trying to say is. - And then there were all these people that were asked, what's your black job? One guy was like, I'm a surgeon. And every guy was like, I'm a software engineer. - Those are the jobs they're coming for. - I'm sorry, I was cutting you up now. - No, no problem, Omar. - Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. - It's just crazy, man. - Yeah, so what else you got for us, Brandon? - On that point as well, like I think that with the thing that throws me off the most about all of this is I don't know who's gonna win. And I think I got a feeling. - Nobody though. - Yeah, I got it. I ain't gonna say my prediction yet. I'm gonna say when we get a little closer, but. - I know you think Trump's gonna win. - Yeah, I honestly don't, that's the thing. I think that 'cause the blanket immunity for the cops is just, there's nobody that's going for that. And he said that slipped out, and then it was all like, I'll get blanket immunity, now you can't take it back. So I'm not going for that shit. Like I don't care about it, I don't care what I'm doing. But at the same time, I'm one of those, I know y'all be saying you got a vote anyway, but I would just not vote. So it was all like, so I don't want to vote. - There's gonna be a lot of no voters. - I think there would be more if Biden was in a race. I think Kamala gives people hope for sure. - Oh no, definitely, I'm glad that Biden's gone. 'Cause now it's exciting again. Now it has Jews, like now it's like, okay, this is Biden had no Jews. Like, oh, just like, oh, I'm like. - I can agree with the whole-- - Now you see how rally for them was like lit. That was the first rally I seen where everybody was like, oh shit, so it's like lit on both sides. - Yeah, they filled up Temple. Yeah, whereas now we got a fractional-- - Anti-seeds. - Anti-seeds. - Yeah. - Well, you know, it was Philadelphia too. - True, it might be different in Little Rock. - But impression is that Trump would make it feel like wherever he is, he'll bring the peel pack to house. And he's had problems packing a house. And you know, maybe people are getting tired of this dissension, man. - Well, it's amazing, it's amazing how, well, people are getting tired of this. So it's amazing because this past year, there was like, and I gotta admit, I was hopeful that something was gonna change. I just kind of held out hope that there would be an abrupt change and then, you know, Biden did it. He's like, okay, I'm done. Kamala Harris is in, great. And so that saying that goes, it's not over 'til the fat lady sings, or you know, you don't die until you're dead, you know? It's not over 'til it's over. I mean, up until 1159 on election night, we don't know. - We don't know. That's what makes it so exciting. - Anything, it's like a football game. - I wouldn't be surprised if they said, okay, we're gonna get rid of Trump and we're gonna put somebody else. I wouldn't be surprised if they did that. - I wouldn't be surprised, sorry, Chris. The only reason they can't get rid of him is 'cause if he, that they do, he's going to jail. So. - Right, that's a great point. His running is keeping him out of jail, but to what your point was, you know, people, a lot of empty seats at Trump's rallies. I mean, maybe people don't wanna get shot. (laughing) I'm just saying, two people, three people got shot. - Yeah, one of them lost their lives, right? - Yeah, it's not funny. - And he, this is the crazy thing. Three people got shot. Was it two people that lost their lives? - Three people got shot, one person lost their lives instantly. - Instantly. And all he got is a little, I don't know what happened. - Yeah, he just got healed up 'cause I don't even see him. - Okay, conspiracy time, Brandon, conspiracy time. - Okay, did he get shot? Because we've got no medical report yet. - We've got something. - Wow, no medical report. - That ear, I looked at it the other day. I was like, it has no indication of being shot. - Yeah, there's no scar. - There's no trauma. - No trauma. - In fact, wasn't like two days later, he was on a golf course with no big ass, obvious square bandage. - No, that whole thing is funny though, is that the fact that Biden stepped down and is it Kamala Kamala? - It's Kamala. - Kamala. - Kamala. - And the fact that she stepped up dominated the news cycle. So people just stopped going back to that. They just live now. Nobody really kicked it apart. - And no more Diddy stories by the way. (laughing) - I'm saying, right? - Do we need a Diddy watch? - Where is he, man? - Yeah, no. - 'Cause last time I heard, man, he was in a dark place. (laughing) - It might have been sunken. - Right, man, that's funny. - But now I agree, man. There's a lot of stuff about that thing for me that makes me think a lot of different things, man. - Yeah, so real quick, man. I just want to throw these out. I don't know if anybody has, I know we've been about an hour, more than an hour. I don't know if there's any burning in his eyes, people going. But I got up also and I read this article and I came through my feed about Elon Musk's daughter hates him and Elon's like, you're dead to me. And she was like, I look pretty good for being dead. And she's like, yo, you're nothing but a racist. - No. - Serial, uh-- - Transfemale, by the way. - It's your trip, that's right. - I did get-- - She became a woman. - I did get that. So it was a man. - Yep, his son, he came as-- - Apparently he did an interview and said he lost his child to the woke mind virus. - That's what he said, he heard that, right? - That's exactly, yeah, so he has a vendetta against that. - Ah, that's interesting, 'cause this man has a tough one though, that's a tough one. - That's a tough one. - How do you mean, just kidding? - That's a tough one. - That's a tough one. - That's a tough one, man, that's a tough one. - This dude, man, this dude. And listen, I drive a Tesla and I'm not gonna lie, it's my favorite car I've had, but-- - It's rough. - As much as I wanna get another one, I'm like, hmm, I don't know, I mean, this guy. - Well, there's all kinds of options out there now. - Yeah, they're Hyundai Ionic 5 is looking nice. - Yeah, it's not a Tesla. - And then the Mustang, the Mustang looks here. - Yeah, it's not a Tesla. - I don't like Elon for the Neuralink thing. I don't like that. - Right, run that down? - The Neuralink, have you heard of it? - No. - Oh, wow, y'all got it, okay, so definitely after this pipe, make sure y'all look it up, but Neuralink is basically a chip that he inserts in your brain, which makes you super smart, it'll correct your, if you got spinal issues, we'll start standing up straight, you'll start knowing everything, like, instead of trying to basically, so it's basically the first shot at transhumanism. So it's like, it'll make you part human, part cyborg, and the way that he explains it is that we're already part cyborg because we go everywhere with our phones, so we already are access to a wealth of knowledge about this. - So this thing makes you trans. - This will just be in your brain, like, you'll be able to access it. - And he's mad at his daughter for being a trans, but he's-- - That's what I'm saying, I can't get with it, I can't get with all that. - Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly. - Exactly with all of that. - But I tell you what, there's people, he's been doing it, he's done it like one or two times successfully, and he'll show, like, people moving the computer screen with their mind and stuff like that and running through stuff. But, and people will buy that when he releases it out to the public, people will buy that back. - People who can afford it. - Yeah, I just don't. - I just don't know what to side effects it. - I'm not with that. - And who can shut you off? And when they shut you off, do they shut your whole system off? - Yeah, you should be, well, you got screwed up. - Yeah, that's the way I can. - Get up, man, I can't. - Man, hey, Brandon, I just think that he doesn't like people. You know? - Yeah, yeah. - There's that term, like, he's a misinthrope. - Well, he probably has some superiority complex where he thinks he's the shit, I mean. And in some ways, he's done some amazing things. At the end of the day, you're still just a human, okay? You're not, you're just like everybody else. - Yeah. - But I guess if you start doing all this stuff, you're like, "Ah, man, I'm not like everybody else." That's a, I'm better than everybody. - I'm better. - Yeah. - That's why they want to go to another plan it all together and get a problem. They're like, "We try and get a body." - The government is kind of indebted to him, kind of, right? - Yeah, they have the, what is it, Starlink? - Oh, that was another point that I wanted to bring. Yeah, that was the other thing is that, so yeah, he criticized the government for, and this is the kind of thing that reflects back to what I was seeing earlier. So he criticized the Biden administration for their approach to bringing broadband to rural areas, right? And he criticized it for being insufficient because it's not reached the really rural areas. So he's saying, but my Starlink, you know, is a much better thing, right? But the difference is, the Biden administration's approach is to also involve local vendors, you know, to install all this stuff. So it's not so much that Elon Musk has a better plan. In essence, what he's doing is supporting Biden's agenda by actually filling in some holes. You know, they haven't been able to get to these rural areas. And so it's not, so for him to say, you know, to take this position of, well, I don't, you know, what they're doing is insufficient. That's just stupid. In essence, he's actually supporting it because he's filling in holes where the government hasn't gotten to yet. And so that's what's really happening and why I take that position in the first place, only to further drive a wedge for no other reason than to just drive a wedge. When in essence, you're complimenting what the Biden administration is doing. And both of you are serving the U.S. public by providing, you know, fast broadband internet access so that everybody can get all the information that they want. You know, so it's, so leave the competition up to the football game or the baseball game or the race driving or whatever. But when it comes to governing the people, you know, - But I think that's what's dangerous about him. He's just not trying to make money. He's trying to determine what society is going to be like. You know, and if you're one of these people that read like Anne Rand books, you know what I mean? I ain't Rand. And everything is like this sense of, well, I'm just naturally better equipped whether through it's my muscles or my brain power and those who aren't fall by the wayside, you know? This is this sort of like social Darwinism sort of thing. - Is that what she writes about? - You know, I bought one of her books. - Okay. - Because this chick while I was kind of like him was like, yeah, maybe you should read this. - Yeah, it was like The Fountainhead, I don't ever read it. 'Cause then I started hearing all this wackadoodle stuff about it, you know? And people, like there are some of these Republicany or Republicans who are very like Paul Ryan from Wisconsin used to make his staff read Atlas Shrugged, I believe. Everybody had to read Atlas Shrugged. - Really? - Which is a story, I believe, about a guy who rapes and murders a child. - Oh wow, I don't know. - That could be The Fountainhead, but yeah, yeah. - I'm gonna look that up. - Yeah, yeah, check that bro. - Who was it, what's the name again? - Iron Rand, A-Y-N Rand, and yeah. So I know like his biggest book is Atlas Shrugged and the main character is John Galt. I live on Galt Avenue by the way, so everybody knows where to find me now. - Okay. - But yeah, but they, it's a very, the sort of ideology that drives the libertarians, they are really huge adherents of Iron Rand. - Really? - You know where, sort of like, you know what? We don't need a social system. You know, if you have the means to go about getting your money, don't get it. And if you don't, then you're kind of like trash and you're the bottom cast of society. - Right, right, right. - So maybe I should read one of the books before I start spouting off about it, but sort of look at the folks who are devotees of it. And I'm like, I don't know that I would really dig that. - Okay, so it says here, it's a mystery story about the rebirth of the human spirit. The book is a manifesto on politics, philosophy, and economics and features larger than life characters. Now that doesn't necessarily contradict what you say, 'cause that, huh? - That's probably lies. - Oh, because I mean, you know, you could get someone who does like that and then goes through some kind of transformation, you know? So that could be, you know, it's a novel or it's a mystery story. So, you know, that's interesting. - Yeah, I do know that one of Iron Rand's heroes was a fellow who did murder. He kidnapped a rich person's daughter, murdered her, and then it was a trial. - You can look this all up. It's, yeah. And so that was-- - We're part of a time in the world. - I don't wanna say like the 20s or 30s. - Yeah, she wrote this book in 1957. - Wow, right. - So guys, what do you wanna do? You wanna wrap this up? - Yeah. - This has been pretty cool. - Yeah, we'll have to pick it up. - We would definitely have to pick it up. - Next week or two weeks from now? - Kinds a crazy conversation. - Crazy conversation. - Listen, thank you once again for joining us on another episode of-- - That's your common conversation. - Da-da-da-da. - Da-da-da. (laughing) Yeah, it's been a pleasure. It's been a pleasure, hang on. - That's our new theme song. - Thank you. - Take your hand out. Dom, thank you for coming by. - My pleasure, brother. - My pleasure, brother. - Brandon. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. So folks, yeah, look us up on what it will be. - Well, let's see, we're on Instagram. We're no longer on Google podcast because Google is getting rid of their podcasts. - Yeah, right. - Yes, exactly. - But we're still on YouTube, we're still on Instagram. - Shop Spotify. - NYCCPOD on Instagram. - Spotify. - Spotify. - Any other platforms. - All the other platforms. - Podcast platform. - And we got the website up, Brandon. - Website is a website, it's not your common conversation because the URL on that website is it? - Not your common conversation.com. - There you go, not your common conversations. - There you go, so, listen, one of these days we need to have an earlier in the daytime. 'Cause, you know, I'm being honest with you. - Five o'clock. - I just wanna let you know, this podcast just lives. Nobody cares about the time or when you come. - No, no, no, no, no, no, I get that. - For you, I'm saying for you. - I'm saying for the robustness of our conversations. Like you and I have great conversations in the morning. - In the daytime, yeah. - In the morning. We're just firing off bullets. - All right, let's get out of here, y'all. Hey, you guys, we're out. Peace out. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) [ Silence ]