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In the BISO hold segment, these are submissions that are presented by board members, board designers, picked on the Combuyer Champions Lounge members, they're the only ones that can submit BISO hold or unless you want to do a super chat. We do have a couple of those, so we'll have those. And then also, any other super chats you guys bring up, we'll pull up too. So I'm going to start with the super chats and got a couple here, but I wanted to first one a little bit, a little bet with a super chat. Thank you very, very much. What's up? I've been nation, my first chat on the lives, but I've been watching daily since summer 2023 and joined the board shortly thereafter, the best decision you'll make, go Irish, beat them Aggies, agree with all of that. Absolutely. You can find that if you're watching live, you can see it at the bottom boards on Irish Breakdown.com. So appreciate you very, very much for the super chat and for your support of IB Nation. Be fast by so hold. Thank you for the super chat. Be fast by so hold both. Oh, yeah, I think it was BP has is what it was. I remember now. Sorry about that. BP has by so hold, both starting tackles to open the 2025 season will be different than the ones who open the 2024 season. That is going to be a fascinating question and we had, we had a few submissions about the offensive line, including another super chat about the offensive line and, and here's what makes it interesting when, when I look at the offensive line, it's, it's really kind of, it's kind of fascinating because like we thought that there would certain things are going to happen and I want to hold off my overall picture of the offensive line with for some other super chats and other submissions, but for this one, it's going to be fascinating to see kind of how this season goes to see how this question gets answered or this submission gets answered for next year, you know, as far as the buy so hold, I'm going to, I'm going to buy it because there's just so much uncertainty and so much depth. But I don't feel great about it because we just haven't seen it. So like how right now, first of all, there's a lot of, you know, this is the starting offensive line. What we saw yesterday on August 15, guys, that may be the starting offensive line. It's not the offense, starting offensive line today because that hasn't been established. Notre Dame is working several players in it left guard, they're working several players in it left tackle. It is, however, looking likely or not likely, there's a very good chance that Anthony and App could end up being that guy for a host of reasons. He has had a very strong camp, couple things I've learned about him that I'm going to put on the message board here later tonight, I actually put some of it, I think I might have put some up on the board yesterday, but it's been fascinating and what's really fascinating is he was not recruited to play tackle. He was a left tackle in high school. He was recruited to play inside that that was what we were told. And that's what he was told he could play all over, but that's what we were told. So the fact that he's starting a left tackle is kind of a shock to be honest with you and not because the thought that, well, you know, I didn't think he was any good. I had doubts about Anthony Naps size. I still do to be completely honest with you. Others were higher on him. Others were lower on him. I was kind of right in the middle. I gave him a four and a half upstart upside grade, but not as high of a normal grade because I had questions about the size. And when you see him out on the practice field, he looks significantly smaller than anybody else that they have. Even Joe Auding looks thicker than he does. But what I was told yesterday was like, but he's holding up very well and he, but he's very athletic. It's not a shock. We always knew that his length is very good. And from what I was told yesterday, the one thing that I'll share here is he's been the most consistent little guy left tackle. That says a lot about him, but it also says a lot about the other guys at tackle that a freshman is your most consistent player. If he performs well this year, and if a meal Wagner performs well, what do you do? Do you throw Charles Jaggis all back out there next year and say, okay, Charles is back to playing tackle? And then you move Anthony Knapp back inside where you initially recruited him to play. Do you move Charles Jaggis all inside to guard where, you know, look, with Charles Jaggis all, I don't care to get into the tackle versus guard debate. Here's the reality. I think Jack Charles Jaggis all could be an elite player wherever you play him outside of maybe center. You want to put him at left tackle, put him at left tackle, you put him right tackle, put him right. I don't care. He's going to be, I think if he is healthy, a dude at either spot. You want to put him at guard? Put him at guard. I think he'd be an all American to guard too. That's one of the things I love about Charles Jaggis all. Do you move him inside and give you a power guard there? Do you move Billy, you know, or Anthony Knapp inside? Do you just, do you let there be a three man battle or a four man battle next year with Charles Jaggis all on Gerby Lambert and say, yeah, you started last year, but you're not guaranteed to start next year. It's fascinating. So, I mean, I'm buying it for now just because things change, right? Someone's going to get hurt. Somebody may not play well. Something's going to happen, right? In this regard, it's going to say they're going to have to do some shuffling around. Could it happen? Certainly. Certainly. But man, I'll tell you, it's been very interesting to see how this whole thing is played out. It really is. And there's still a lot left to go here before we find out who the starting tackle is going to be. And the other thing is you said to open the 24 season, to your point, just because certain guys may open the season in 2024 doesn't mean they're going to finish the season, which then of course leads into 2025. So it's going to be a very interesting period. Got a super chat for my guy, Ryan Michael, thank you very much, Ryan, for Rita. Keep fighting, girl, wishing you all the best. Go Rita, go Irish. Appreciate that very much, man. I'm actually taking a screenshot of that right now. And I'm sending that to Ang because she's sitting there right now, waiting on them to take her back so she can, so she can have that, man. I really, I really, really appreciate that very much very much. Yeah, man, that means a lot. I appreciate you for that. Got a super chat here from AST 12321, also an offensive line one. PrizePix is America's number one daily fantasy sports app with over 5 million active members. PrizePix is the easiest and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports. 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But let me posit a bit of a, because honestly, I don't know what Anthony Knapp potentially starting left tackle means for Notre Dame, right? Like, there's a lot of things I don't know. We have seen 290 pound tackles at Notre Dame be very good. Zach Martin never got beyond 295 at Notre Dame. I know he was listed higher, maybe his fifth year he got up to that point in time, but his red shirt freshman year in 2010, when he was pretty good, he was 290 pounds. Robert Hainsey struggled to get above 290, 295 during his career. He was very good. Anthony Knapp right now is very similarly built to Robert Hainsey's a true freshman. He's a little more athletic and actually stronger than Robert was as a freshman, even from what we've seen, but also from what I've heard. So it's going to be interesting to see how that goes. But let me posit this sort of, because I'll admit, I don't know what this means. But let me posit a scenario for you. One of the concerns that a lot of us, you in the chat, myself, had about the offensive line was we don't know what Tosh Baker can be at left tackle. I thought he could be a solid right tackle. We saw him play good football in the bowl game. Could he go to the left side and thrive there? Nobody could know for certain. We were hopeful. We don't know for certain. He certainly wasn't going to be as good as Charles Jaggersoll. And that left a lot of people with concerns. What's going on right now is not so much a situation where Tosh is playing poorly and he's terrible or he's injured. He's not injured in that he's out because he's at practice. He was practicing yesterday. This is a scenario from what I can tell where right now it's getting beat out. So if Tosh Baker was a concern for you, the fact that somebody is beating him out should actually raise the level of optimism about this line. If just say, let's just say, Sam Pendleton starts. And one thing I said to you guys after was the first time we saw Sam Pendleton playing guard, which was like, I think about a week ago, he looks way better at guard than he did center, way better. He looks comfortable. He's quick. He's back to coming off the ball with good pad level. He's not have to think about snapping and he's physical. If he beats out to returning starters for the starting left guard job, does that raise concerns about experience? Heck yes. But does it mean that the floor has been or the ceiling has been raised? Yeah, it does because it means he beat out two guys that started all of last year. That means who they had at left guard last year is got outplayed by a red shirt freshman. So it means that the talent is taking over. That's a good sign. The young talent taking over is a good sign from a potential standpoint. Now, does it leave concerns about how are they going to be in the opener? Yeah, it does a little bit, but I was kind of concerned about how that was going to be anyway. And so we're going to have to find out how this goes. So am I concerned about the fact that you've got three guys starting on your offensive line? If this is how it goes, again, I don't think that's necessarily goes that are a red shirt freshman or red shirt sophomores or a true freshman. Yeah, that concerns me a little bit from an experience standpoint, but then also are these guys going to be able to hold up games 13, 14, 15 and 16, that's a legitimate question. So all things that we're going to have to find out and get answered, but I just look at it like this and say, I don't think that this is about uncertainty as much as they are. Look, you're going to have to forgive me. I'm going to jump around a little bit tonight. My head's in a couple of different places. This just kind of popped in, right? What did we say before the season started? As long or as there are legit battles on the offensive line, I'm confident that they're going to be good up front. Why? Because if they let the talent win out, then they're going to be better than they were a year ago, where we didn't feel that they necessarily let the talent win out. If Sam Pendleton starts a guard, there's nobody injured a guard. If Anthony Knapp starts a tackle, yes, you lost Charles Jaggersoll, but he beat out the potential replacement for Charles Jaggersoll if it turns out that way, that's a good sign. That means guys earned positions. If Rocco Spindler is starting a left guard against A&M, it means he battled Kugen and had to hold off Sam Pendleton for that role because in order to win that job, right now, there's fierce competition being allowed now and they're letting guys win those jobs. I don't think that's ever bad, especially if you're someone who believes what I believe, which is that this team is really, really talented. And the young talent on the team is even better. They're allowing the young talent to legitimately go out there and push for jobs. Gerby Lambert's getting all the number two snaps a right tackle, which means if Emil Wagner doesn't play well, he could be in trouble. It's not great to be young and the offensive line. But if you're going to have a weakness, I'd rather your weakness be you're too young than you lack talent. And it's the same thing said, if you can figure out a way to get through that opener with a W, I don't care if it's 10 to nine, three to two, right? Seven, what was the score that Iowa had a couple of years ago? Then they beat somebody like seven to three and they didn't score an offensive touchdown at like two safeties in the field goal. They beat, I think South Dakota State is who they beat. I don't care if that's how they win, win that first game and then you got three get right games before Louisville comes to town. And so that's the thing is let the talent compete and let the best players play. And if that's what they're doing on the offensive line, it may not work out, but I can live with that because it's telling me that, Hey, look, we're not going to get into this whole seniority thing that we lived within the past under the previous administration where veterans are always going to get more of the benefit of that. We complained all last year about how veterans are held to a higher standard than young players. Well, right now it's not looking like that. Right now it's looking like, Hey, we're going to let it battle. And if a young guy wins a job, then the young guy's going to play guys. That's never a bad thing. Never a bad thing. It's not ideal to be that young. But here's the deal. You're anticipated starting left tackle be going into the season had only one more career start and only about 60 more career snaps and Anthony. 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Safety or driver assistance features are no substitute for the driver's responsibility to operate the vehicle in a safe manner. We the vehicle owners manual for important feature limitations and information. And a couple more super chats pop up a little bit. Beth again thank you very much for read up. Appreciate you. Ivy Nation is here for you and your family Brian. I got to tell you again man how much that means to me. I really appreciate you all very much. This community is amazing. It really really is. I don't know if I express emotions very well. It tend to be a very matter of fact kind of guy. I hope you are you all are getting a sense of how appreciable I am. And if I'm not showing it enough. I apologize. It's not really my personality. But it is. It's more appreciated than you guys realize it means a lot. John Banco with a super chat. Thank you John very much by so whole Notre Dame has a defensive score verse a and M. You know what I'm going to buy that because I'm I want I want to be in a good mood tonight and and I'll say this. You know this is this is a defense that that focuses a lot of attention on forcing turnovers and a lot of emphasis and practice on forcing turnovers. Brian Smith had a post on the board the other day. And it was a really it was a really fascinating statistic that. That I thought was interesting because it's it's going to go one of two ways right the statistic that he's talking about. It's going to go one of two ways and last year Notre Dame finished second in all of college football in Fumbles forced. They forced 18 Fumbles last season, but when you look at how many where they ranked in Fumbles recovered. They were tied for second there. They were tied for 44th in Fumbles forced. Right. So I mean Fumbles recovered. So and I think opponents had it says looks like 24 total Fumbles opponent Fumbles and you recovered eight. What that tells me if I'm looking at this is that that they count force Fumbles maybe a little bit different than the guy putting a ball in the ground. I'd have to I'd have to look in that statistic but I would imagine that would be the case. But the point is, is that when you look in their name last year. Force a lot of Fumbles didn't recover a lot of Fumbles well they're working on trying to get better at recovering and turning those things into big plays I think this is going to be an even more aggressive defense than it was last year. You're going to have an inexperienced offensive line or I mean a quarterback and not great offensive line at Texas A&M. And they're going to go after that group so in a lot of different ways a quick pick six on you know a force and fumble something that's going to result in a score. I could see that happening and it would certainly give another name a huge momentum boost but the point that I was making about that statistic is one of two things is going to happen if they force a lot of Fumbles again odds are pretty good that they're going to recover a lot more. And hopefully being some situations where they can take one back because I know Xavier Watts had had one of those last year. Or they just force less Fumbles and the recovery rate stays about the same but they force less Fumbles hopefully that's not the case. But yeah I'm going to buy that I could see that I hope that that's maybe that's like a hopeful by as opposed to a prediction. Because I have no idea if they're going to score defensive touchdown but I like where your head's at John and I'm going to buy that because I think that that's the kind of momentum big momentum changer that they need. I've said this before there's a couple thing there's a few things that change momentum in a football game more than anything else. Block punts especially those for scores kick returns or punt returns for touchdowns and defensive touchdowns are to me the biggest momentum changers and all the football and if you can get one on the road. It's huge. If you guys remember when Notre Dame played Michigan State in 2017. If you remember kind of how that game went and and just how one of the things that really allowed Notre Dame to jump all over them in that game. Was they Notre Dame takes that first drive they go down they score touchdown Brandon wind was on a quarterback draw runs it in for touchdown Michigan State's trying to go you know driving right down the field they get near midfield. So Ryan Lewerke tries to throw a slant route Julian love bite baits him and picks it off and takes it back to the house. Michigan State was playing catch up the rest of the game. And just obviously they couldn't they couldn't hold up you know Notre Dame was also able to force a fumble in that game that right at the goal line that Sean Crawford forced and I believe he also recovered in the end zone force a fumble of LJ Scott. They were covered and then they go 80 yards down and all of a sudden instead of it being a 21 to 14 games 21 eight seven game into games over. That was a very good Michigan state team that was a team that won 10 games and finished in the top 25. And yet two turnovers like that that completely changed the dynamic of that game. They're huge and another example is if you remember the Alabama Clemson game. In 2000. It was it be the 2018 title game. One of the big parts of that game was early on AJ Terrell set in the tone that like hey we're coming at you and getting that pick six and you know what if Alabama takes their, you know the Alabama is next drive so Alabama started with the ball to a throws a pick six. But the Alabama gets the ball back and they go down and score make it you know tied up 77 but Bama was playing from behind at that point time, because they got that early early score and then eventually Clemson's offense heated up and they ended up blowing them out in that game but those are big momentum changes in football games especially when you're playing good teams and especially when you're on the road so let I'm going to buy that. Josh Phillips with a super chat thank you Josh bice a hole James Rindell will cause at least two samples on special teams due to his ability to spend the ball on punts. Well that's an interesting one I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to sell that just because well you know what. You know what let's stay in a good mood let's stay in this opportunistic good mood I'm going to buy that because I think it's possible I would feel here's here's what I don't know. The first thought on this is. How, how do you. Oh somebody else brought this up the Notre Dame Clemson game in 2020 it's another one that the force fumble by Jeremiah wusukor that he took it out of the hands of Travis Etienne and took it back for house those those are big momentum changes the the blocks punt early against Clemson that went back for a touchdown really sparked during that game so I could give you a ton of examples those things are huge. Well let me let me get back to this one on James Rindell what I don't know because I didn't return, I've returned it punts like once or twice in high school, and that's so I never was you know never was a turner outside of that. But I don't know if it's easier to catch balls in in daylight or at night. I thought would be it's a little harder, especially with really good hang time the field punts at night, because the ball can kind of go up it's like fly balls at night right like the ball can go up and it goes above the, the, the, you know like the where the lights are or can it can get high like that and then it changes colors and comes back down it can really mess with you where it day in the day it kind of just stays one color. I'm going to make it easier or harder I don't know my my thought is that it would be harder at night. Well no name's not going to have as many night games this year like like they did last year so maybe it doesn't impact it as much. Yeah. So I'm not sure but I'm going to buy it just because I'm optimistic but I would be curious to know which you know which one would be was harder for them to do that that would be very interesting and VR says it's harder at night. If you know could be I would again I would think so and right Anthony I would I would think it's harder. But I guess I can't speak from experience and we didn't play a lot of night games, you know when I was coaching we didn't play a ton of night games so that it's very very interesting to see kind of how that plays out and then like you know are you are you facing the sun or there's all types of things so I'm going to be I'm going to take your optimistic route we're going to go ahead and buy that sucker and say that and it kind of goes with the the first one right like the the forcing turnovers and be huge be huge force a fumble. You know return it get get some points love it be a great great way to to give the offense a boost in a game like that at Texas A&M. All right now it's time to get to the submitted questions from our Irish breakdown subscribers over at boards on our breakdown.com. We got three from O&D 15 number one. By so hold Riley Leonard design quarterback run game will be a significant part of the game plan at Texas A&M I'm buying that and. Number one is you know I was a speaking engagement last night and somebody you know was talking about the concern about Riley Leonard and you know are you going to want to run them and stuff and my my answer was you know if you don't want to get him hurt my answer to him was and it was a good it was a very good question because he also brought up the mentality part which we talked about last week which is a concern I'm more concerned about that than I am them running him and being afraid of him getting hurt because you can't coach not to get somebody hurt. Because if you're coaching not to get somebody hurt unless there's a present injury. So if you have a player that has a present injury then obviously there's going to be some concerns about like okay we need to protect that specific injury so you may not do this right so when Riley Leonard got hurt last year. You didn't see Duke running you know using him on design runs against Florida State he only had one scramble that game you went for 10 yards but he didn't he didn't run as much. And but that was a present injury this is a past injury that has since been operated on and and and fixed and healed right so at the end of the day you got to coach the game to win. And you don't bring a guy like Riley Leonard in go on the road against what is a top 25 team in front of 100 plus 1000 people and say we're not going to utilize one of the best assets he has which is one of the absolute best trade you know bet he's best one of the best at football. You're going to need that just general generally speaking you're going to need that and it will be part of what they do. Here's another part of it to your to your why it's an easy buy for me is because you're going to need that to be day in them in my opinion. One of the best things you can do to protect to first time starting offensive tackles is do things that forces the edge of the defensive line to not be as aggressive. And if they're going to come screaming off the edge. I'm going to have quarterback power calls I'm going to have quarterback draw calls and I'm going to have read zone calls that are absolutely going to be utilized. On the side of Nick scourton where he wants to come flying off the edge he'll make a couple plays but if he's going to come flying off the edge they can he's going to get to the quarterback every time. We're going to do some things to take advantage of that with the whole being that if we have enough success and hit some big place maybe that slows him down a little bit. And he doesn't come as hard the next few times and then now we've got some ability to throw the football so you're going to best way to attack that is obviously run at it. You know you've got you can use your 12 personnel and do some different things but the quarterback run game, especially the read zone stuff and the power read stuff where you're ice owing the defensive end. And forcing him to kind of have a dual read is is stuff that can be very effective at protecting your or I shouldn't say protecting your tackles but helping your tackles. Because when you're in your let's say you run six total quarterback designed calls in a game that six plays where your offensive tackles don't have to block a defensive end. I mean that's the match up a word about right. So if they don't have to block them on those plays that's a good thing. Then there's going to be a lot of other plays where you're chipping with a tight end chipping with the back so you're now limiting the time the amount of times that your tackles especially if you have a true freshman at left tackle you have to go against those really talented Texas A&M edge players. The more times you can do that the better chances you're giving them at having success. If Anthony Namp has to beat those edge players 60 times in a game compared to let's say 40 times in a game because you've got the read zones. You've got some bootlegs where you're not really worried about him or you're having a tight end help out or you're doing this. That's going to increase the number of opportunities or you know opportunities he has to win and decrease the number of opportunities you have to beat him and you're helping him in that regard. So I think those things are smart and why you should why should you go for it. Next one. Riley Leonard rushes for over 70.5 yards against Texas A&M. I'm going to say that I'm going to go under on that. I think that will certainly utilize the run game. I have a feeling that Texas A&M is going to be very keyed in on Riley Leonard, which if I'm Notre Dame's offense I kind of I'm kind of okay with that because I'm still going to call some runs and things like that. But if they're really keyed in on Riley Leonard, then that's a you have less opportunity to focus on Jeremiah love, Jadarion price. I think they're going to be doing things to kind of crash the edge hit Riley do those type of things which if you're running a read zone yeah okay they may be able to blow it up. But if I'm just running inside zone and you know you're coming at me and I'm okay I'm giving a ball to Jeremiah love and Jadarion price it's never a bad thing to give the ball to Jadarion price and Jeremiah love like ever it's never a bad thing unless it's the wrong read right that's the only and even then they still might be able to make some plays so I could see him going for 60 65 at the most and and being impactful because those runs matter especially if he's able to get some early. And then all of a sudden that opens up some opportunities for your other guys to hit some big plays I could certainly see that if he runs for over that I don't think that's a bad sign. It just means he's making plays but I have a feeling he's going to go slightly under if not a decent amount under because of the focus on him is going to allow some other players to get going. Final one from Owen in O and D Owen in D 15 design quarterback runs will not be a significant part of nine to 12 of no games games this year. I'm going to sell that because I get where you're coming from meaning there's going to be a lot of games you don't need to use him in the quarterback design runs and that's spot on like you have a quarterback like that. You don't need him to run that way to beat North Illinois you don't need him to do that to beat Navy or you know teams like that. And in your point is you're going to need him to do that against A&M Florida state and let's say USC if you find them or Louisville depending on who you think your third best team is. I would throw in not only those three but I would throw in Louisville and that conversation when I release my top 25 next week. Louisville will be in my preseason top 25. I think you're going to you're going to want to have that available to beat Georgia Tech. And there's going to be a couple other games where you're going to have you're going to take quarterback design runs into every game. You're just there's going to be a lot of games you don't utilize them unless you need them. There's going to be a game or two outside of those where you're you're it's going to be kind of okay they're they're coming at you a little bit or they're maybe a defense is having a tough go a bit early where they're crashing the edge of the running backs you're like okay this is what we got to do to use it and we're maybe in the past we wouldn't have done it as much but I think it's going to be less than nine I think you know six, seven. I'm going to be in favor of that I'm going to sell nine out of 12 but I think the spirit of where the question comes from. I'm on board there's definitely going to be some games this year where it will not be a significant part of the offense. Good stuff. Christopher Crosby by so hold Mike Norville has done some really good things while at Florida State by so hold it wouldn't have turned out as good if he was at Florida instead. I think that program needs reset from the top all the way down. I do I buy that I think Florida has a very unhealthy view of itself. They think that they are a blue blood a they think they're Bama they think they're this great program that that everybody just has to respect and they're because of how good they are. Before Florida has been good under two coaches and that's it Steve Spurrier and Urban Meyer that is it. You know this this program thought I mean look look look at what they did with with Dan. Dan Mullen Dan Mullen comes there has success. First year there I think you take some of the orange ball I'm pulling up his career peach bowl first year and they finished seventh in the AP. You go 10 and three the next season let me stay on that that 2018 season. You go 10 and three that year you lose the Kentucky lose the Georgia lose the Missouri but if beat Florida State blew out Florida State beat number five LSU beat number 23 Mississippi State on the road. When on when in a bowl game you play number eight Michigan in the peach bowl and they blast them 41 to 15. His second year at Florida they go 11 and two and finish number six in the in the rankings they lose to number five LSU. This is in the 2019 season they only lost LSU by two touchdowns which is pretty close for most deep people and they lost by a touchdown to Georgia. They blew out Florida State again they beat Miami they got revenge at Kentucky they beat number seven Auburn by 11. They beat Missouri on the road and then beat Virginia in in the orange bowl. His second his third year is the COVID year. They go in eight and four but they finished ranked 13th in the polls that year. They go to the go to the SEC title game that season. And they had a three point loss at number 21 Texas A&M that a three point loss to LSU. They had a six point loss in the SEC title game to Bama they had a terrible bowl experience they got blown out by Oklahoma a lot of guys sat out that game. And for some reason Florida fans and administrators didn't like that. He comes out the next season again after going 29 and nine in three years lowest ranking was 13th. They fired him the next season because they were five and six fired him now was the five and six season a good one no they lost by two points to Bama seven points to Kentucky seven points at LSU. They got blown out by Georgia they got blown out by South Carolina and they lost an overtime at Missouri was that a good loss no wasn't a good loss that wasn't a very good Missouri team. But that gets that guy fired after what he did already and what he had already what he had done there when he was the OC as part of a title team and that's how you treat him. That's what you do when you have a very unhealthy view of yourself. And, and there are so many problems with the boosters there with the leadership there in the athletic department. And, and also you're in a very tough conference that it would have been much tougher for him to get there Mike Norvell's gotten tons of support from people at Florida State tons of support. And he's done a great job there. He's also in a much the league he's in he's always going to have the more talented team in all but maybe one. That times two depending on what Miami does the most talented team on the field Clemson's the only other one that consistently puts a team on the field it's as talented as they are. Nobody else does at Florida you're not always going to have the most talent even some of the best Florida teams in the past had to play teams that had comparable talent. That's really the case of Florida State when you're playing in the ACC that helps as well so that factors in too so it's not just the the notion that it's a dysfunctional institution from a athletic standpoint. It's also it's it's easier when you're at Florida State with what they stack up against compared to what Florida has to overcome in order for them to be successful so yeah I'm going to buy that for a host of reasons it's really good submission. [Music] [Music] [Music] We're driven by the search for better but when it comes to hiring the best way to search for a candidate isn't to search at all don't search match with Indeed. Indeed is your matching and hiring platform with over 350 million global monthly visitors according to Indeed data and a matching engine that helps you find quality candidates fast. 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