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Beyond the Blockchain 8-20-24 panel talk on AI arbitration, Google glass in court, War of the Worlds,
Hey folks, welcome to Beyond the Blockchain with Scott Tindall, a discussion of blockchain technology, cryptocurrency, and why it matters to you. Hey folks, welcome into Beyond the Blockchain. Here with the on Tuesday night, I'm your host Scott Tindall. Here with the Johnny Quinn and Philipon Studio, and from the New Jersey studio as always. Sierra Catalina 1. Sierra, how are you up there? Hey, I'm good. How are you? I'm pretty good. How's the weather up there? It helps fall today, which in the south, that means the heat index was 95 instead of 110. We did also. It felt like a first day of school survived early September. It was nice. Yeah. It might be different for you than us, but nice to get a blow reprieve from the heat. Johnny, welcome back, sir. Hi. You seem so excited to be here. I've been watching the DNC convention. I really hate either hate myself or my country. I can't figure it out right now. Well, everybody's got their thing. I choose not to engage in politics. Yeah. Well, that's... I made the mistake of... That's my own thing. You know, I'm tired of something historic happening in my life like every three days. Oh, yeah. No doubt. But I said, I'll watch this guy. You know, when do you see a guy retire from being in the president of the United States or kicked out, whatever you want to say about it? And I just watched it. And I was like, it's just so ugly and hateful and mean and just rambling all the time. It's certainly depressing. It's screaming. Yeah, it's depressing to watch, which is why I choose not to watch it. And instead I watch like depressing dystopian AI movies about AI taking over the world and humans becoming subservient to our AI overlords. Well, you know, I was trying to watch some things on. I am interested in economy and crypto and DNC doesn't have... They don't have a single thing about innovation and a single thing about crypto on their platform, which is typical. And then I hear those rumors that Kacklin Kamala is rumored to be talking about Gensler, Gary Gensler, being the treasury chairman. I saw that. It's just doubling down on I hate you, crypto and... I saw a headline that said Gensler may have started that rumor. Yeah. And it's smart if you would do that. Here's what I... The only thing that I... Because like I said, I tried to avoid it and stay away from it. One point that I did see is that Vice President Harris' platform is, "Bidenomics is working and we're going to fix everything on what they want." Like on day one. Well, he will. Yeah. Why not just fix it now? You know, if there's things that need to be fixed, you've got the platform to go ahead and get it fixed. We announced 28% corporate tax increase, so 21, 28% would kill my little company by the way. There'd be very reason. I mean, it would eat into what I would take home as an owner. And the other thing is 44% capital gains. And then they're talking about 25% unrealized capital gain tax, which is insanity. If anybody knows what that is, that's like I put $100,000 in the house and the house goes up to $150,000. And I don't even sell the house, then I have to pay 25% on $50,000, but they don't pay me back if the house goes up to $75,000. I mean, that's got to be- I think that's dead on arrival. I don't think that gets to be- It has to be. That would destroy any economy in the world. It's a con- I don't think it gets to be- Let's say some of the con artist would pull. So yeah, so watching that again, making me hate myself or makes me hate my country, I don't know how to feel right now, so. Well, you know, if it makes you feel better, I'm glad you're here tonight. Yeah, I'm here. I'll get better. I'm enjoying adult things. Perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know. I'm sorry about that. I feel better now already. No, good. I'm glad you feel better. Yeah. I felt like you and I were on "Uncle Henry." You know, just- Oh, yes, let's bring up other radio shows on other radio stations. He brought us up on Friday. Yeah, if he told you don't say your show, don't say the station. I didn't say his show or his station. No, on- I said his name. He said when you were on his show, he said, "Don't bring up your show." No, he didn't. Yes, he did. He said, "Don't say the name of the show or the name of the station." He said, "But you and Johnny are on the radio together, right?" Well, I didn't say that. Okay. Well, I have a birthday for you, by the way. Oh, wow. I missed it last week. It was last Thursday. 53rd year that President Nixon took us off the gold standard old money, by the way. Oh. Which we know a lot about, because of the crypto and Bitcoin world. Yeah. How's that working out for us? 88.5% of the value of the dollar has been lost since October 15th, 53 years ago. You know, the optimist in me says that 1.5% of the value has been retained. And why did you do that? The glass is barely a little bit in it. There's a drop. It has a drop. It's not empty. There is a spittle at the bottom. A spittle. That's a good word. Yeah. A spittle. Sierra. In 1973, no, I'm just kidding, I'm just picking on you. Before we came on air, we had a nice conversation about Sierra telling us how old we were. But it's okay. You know, we'll let that stay off here. When we come back from the break, we're going to go here in a minute. Let's talk about some of the headlines in crypto. We've got some interesting stories we want to talk about. And it's a national radio day. So maybe we'll talk about, when we go beyond the blockchain, we'll talk about like this crazy radio life and things that have happened to the radio. Sounds like a winner. Maybe you were some of those. All right. When we come back on Beyond the Blockchain, there's no music yet. Oh, there is. Welcome back to Beyond the Blockchain with Scott Tindall. Hey folks, welcome back into Beyond the Blockchain here with you on National Radio Day, celebrating a show about crypto and emerging technologies on terrestrial radio. You know? Cheers to that. I like it. It's the duality. Yeah. That's what I like about it. Is it's the analog in the digital? Exactly. Maybe that should be the slogan. You should make some t-shirts, Johnny. No, I'm not making t-shirts anymore ever again. I lost my dairy air doing it with my apparel company. You have your apparel. It's pretty sweet. Wow. I'm not a very good business person. I still got a leprechaun shirt. Leprechaun. We should never mind. Never mind. Get to the point. Let me move on. Okay. All right. We'll talk about leprechaun another day in the Beyond Beyond the Blockchain. Johnny, you shared with me this interesting article earlier today about, it comes from Coin Telegraph and it's about AI legal assistant. I find this very interesting as some of you know, I'm a lawyer by trade when I'm not having fun and talking about fun stuff on the radio, but according to Coin Telegraph, there's a company called De La Legal Tech and it's using AI and blockchain to boost easy access to legal services. Dreamlining contract creation, reviewing management and making legal services more efficient and accessible. There's a couple of thoughts I want to put out there for you all to kind of volley back and forth. The first thing is access to legal services is crazy expensive. Even for simple things. Even for simple things and even for lawyers that will give you a discount, the normal person doesn't have $1,000, $2,000, $3,000 for routine things. Even small startup businesses, right, a small business, they don't have a legal budget. So I can see this as a really good asset to humanity. From the legal side, if I'm a law firm, I'm looking at replacing my paralegals and replacing my junior associates or not necessarily not replacing them, but not hiring someone, yeah, if someone leaves or retires, not hiring someone to take that role and augmenting that role. And lawyers are so conservative, it will take them forever to downsize their firms. Oh yeah, they'd be slow to change. Yeah, they're just slow to change. But I think about this as a user, there's some simple, simple, templated contract things that probably the junior and the paralegal don't want to do anyway. So the idea is you're taking that off their plate for them to do bigger, better paying per hour things. And if this AI website and this service can create it to where it's a question answer prompt and create these things for you for something cheaper than legal zoom, that is an advantage for the stakeholder, meaning the person that needs it, and then the person providing it. Because like I said, all of a sudden they have a new revenue stream that's almost automated, and then their associates and their paralegals can work on the $150 stuff, not the $50 stuff. Yeah, I mean, that's a fair point. And I think there's plenty of legal documents that are standardized enough. Right. Well, a bill of sale. Setting up a company, fixing a will and ending a will, not a complicated will, but a simple will, a simple LLC agreement, you know, a simple operating agreement. Now do I recommend people talk to attorneys to get advice on that stuff? Yeah, you probably should if you don't know. But what it's doing now is like, I know that things that used to take me four hours, I can do in an hour now. Now, I collaborate with it, but I, yeah, I collaborate with it, now I'm kind of like the prompt engineer, right? Right. And I think Sierra with the machine, you're not delegating with the staff. Exactly. Sierra, we've talked about prompt engineering before and how that may become, you know, the future of AI engineering. I think there's something really interesting there. Have you had any, what's your kind of feedback on this legal tech situation? Well, one of the things that AI is best at is searching through massive amounts of data in parallel to find the most accurate result to whatever you're prompting it to do. Now maybe you can answer this on the lawyer side, but as a non-lawyer, I imagine that a large portion of what you do is search through information in case law and specific cases from the past to site for unique situations. So I imagine AI- Yeah. That's certainly something that happens. It does take a lot of your time. What we're still dealing with now, which probably will be done in six months, nine months, a year. AI moves so fast. It's still the AI hallucinations, it just makes up the case. And if you don't go and double check to make sure that case really exists, and that case actually says what it says, then you're in a world of trouble if you follow that before a judge. So I do use it to give me a base lawyer, and then I have to go in and validate the information that's given me. Double check. Those two sources. Well, yeah. All right. But to see your point, sifting through a tremendous amount of data is going to be tremendous for AI. I saw the other day where someone used this as a test, and they were able to go through every in-run email, summarize them in 30 seconds. And during the in-run lawsuit, that probably took 20 associates, 20 days, and it did it. So that's the type of data where, to see Eric's point, crushing through this tremendous amount of communication, synthesizing it, and pulling out interesting information. Especially in the trial, when they're looking for a very specific, you know, you're going through 35,000 emails, right? Right. Well, the idea of like being able to pull up, you know, something very quickly with the idea of, I know there's been keyword search, but this would be like more directed and more specific. Far more sophisticated. Now, this is what interesting is that with this legal tech, though, is this idea of community building around this AI, okay? So the people that use this legal AI, this is the part you didn't see that since you, you can like be a part of the community, and you agree, and they probably screen you somehow because you're part of the community, where you can be the judge and the jury on contract resolutions with this group. And you earn VA out that they're token, VAI, you earn their token, and you can get rewards for being a part of it. The person agrees. It's like the third-party arbitration. That's the arbitration, but you agree on the community, and then people in the community can rank from, and the system from either being a jury to the attorney to the judge on some of these conflict resolutions. So you have virtual resolution? Yeah. Yeah. Virtual resolution. Look, I don't have a problem with that. Again, if you agree to it, it's obviously the court of America, the American courts won't move this very soon, but if you are arbitrating this outside of the courts, there's probably a very smart way to do it. Having done jury selection in counties throughout this state, the fact that somebody could opt in and do this process and know how to use this system automatically makes me feel better about them as a jury. Right, right. Correct. Just hang on. See, some real dummies know how to do some pretty interesting stuff on their phone, though. Oh, absolutely. But also, if you want the, one of the biggest tactics in the legal profession is cultivating the jury, like jury selection, right? And this, this could be somewhere that-- Oh, I can mean like picking the right jury, not just picking the jury, picking the right jury. Picking the right jury. Right. Picking the right jury is a substantially huge portion of whether or not you're gonna win or lose. My initial thought from that is if you had a AI database on all these people and AI picks the jury for you. You can scan their social media. Yeah. And just everything. Yeah. Your entire internet. Right. Do they own a house? Footprint. They registered Democrat. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And also, there's probably, so Mitch Jackson is one of the early influencers I ever met, internet influencers was a guy named Mitch Jackson. He was this big time lawyer, I think he's called the online lawyer. He's still pretty real big. And he was one of the first people that Google gave Google Glass to, remember Google Glasses? I do. And he loved those things. The one that got away. The one, yes. But he loved them because he could wear those during his trials and depositions and record everything. And he'd go back and look at things, but you could do things like, you had that Google Glass thing. Go run that through an AI filter. Yeah, exactly. And what was lying to me. So body mechanics, facial expressions, okay. He said it was the best thing ever. And then the judge figured out what he was doing. After the whole kind of all gotten in, the judge found out he was doing that and said, you can't wear that in my court anymore. Well, you know what's wild is the judge has that authority. Of course. Of course. Of course. The judge. I tell people all the time, you can worry about national politics if you want. You can worry about state politics. You can worry about local politics, which really need to pay attention to your local judicial elections. And your sheriffs. And your sheriffs, because those people have far more impact on your day to day life than anyone else will. You got that. Assuming you end up in a situation where you're before the sheriff and police chief or the judge. So Sierra, that's a change, but Sierra, did you ever try the Google Glasses? No, I wish I've heard about them. They're kind of a legend in Silicon Valley, but there are some new products that are not just similar to it. Does meta have a version of this now? Kind of. So I have a meta ripens classes and they record first person video. You can capture images. You can listen to audio on them through one conduction speakers, which is really cool because you can still hear backgrounds, noise and stuff. And you can talk to and engage with meta's AI through voice interaction and you can use what you're seeing in real time and like ask it questions about, I don't know, anything that you are currently seeing. But the Google Glasses were more augmented reality. And there are some newer products that are closer to that. There's a pair of glasses called frame bibrilliant lab that has some augmented reality, but in the next year or so, what we really want to see is like the Apple vision pro capabilities become wearable in like a natural rather than the big bulky heads in it than the flyhead. Yeah. Flyhead. I really liked how you did that there. We really want to see. Hey, can you get prescription lenses on these suckers on those Ray bands? You can. Yeah. And you can get them in transitions too, so you can wear them inside as just like regular glasses and then they'll transition to sunglasses outside. But that's what all of my full self-driving videos are filmed on, that's how I get that first person perspective, image stabilization needs a little bit of work, but they're pretty awesome. I like them. The audio quality is great. Do they connect to your Tesla? No, just my phone. It gets your phone. I got you. For now. For now. Well, I don't know. I don't know. They'll ever be an integration where Elon integrates with Zuck, so, you know, I'm sure it's highly unlikely. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody's going to build a hack around it, but I don't know those two. We're going to integrate together. Yeah. Um, that's really interesting though. And what I really like about this conversation is it shows you the depth and breadth, breadth of AI that we started with legal tech, moved into glasses. Both were related, the same, like we didn't get off topic there. Well. And every, like AI is going to consume almost all parts of our lives pretty quickly. Well, it's the idea of garbage and garbage out too. You want something that's easy to wear to put data into and you want to collect it, but it wants to be easy to collect it. And then easy, then you, AI can use that good data to figure out the things you want to figure out or how you want to use a video or just straight data. But what is always what I like about what we do on these conversations is the idea of AI is not so alien, not so strange where we just talked about legal problems. It might be easier for the average person to use in the next couple of years. And we talk about something called glasses that are worn, did now you're connected to something that's a high tech product that makes you very much on the front on the front edge of technology. And we didn't talk about crazy things like we've talked about in this show before. We talked about some things that only relate to 0.01% of the planet. But here is something that's very relevant to people, anyone, even the shut-ins that are listening to this show. Oh, look, you got me, you got me bent on doing research on AI jury selection at this point. I think that's, I want to be a, I want to be a, an AI judge in a, in a, in a, in a case or a jury. I would trust you. Well, I don't want to go. I don't want to be in a real jury. I want to be an AI jury. Of course. All right. We come back on Beyond the Blockchain. We're going to talk more about crypto AI and national radio day. Welcome back to Beyond the Blockchain with Scott Tindall. If folks welcome back into the show, you're listening to Beyond the Blockchain like we do here on Tuesday nights, Tuesday, Tuesday, Johnny and Philip in the studio, Sierra Catalina 1 in the New Jersey studio, as always, good first half of the show. I thought we covered some interesting topics. I want to kind of pick up where we left off a little bit. We were talking about, Johnny, you want, you want to be an AI judge? Well, I mean, I like the, I, I like the idea of a, well, first of all, I love something that can build communities around things or people are passionate about. But didn't that illegal to, to pass yourself off as a judge? No, no, no, no, no. I think the idea is it has to be in the idea of the agreement of a non like the arbitration like you said, the arbitration thing. Okay. Okay. So I would, I would like to see how that would work. First of all, I'm just curious at the, at the fact of like, how's it all connected? What's the interface and what's the user experience and what's the end, what's the end user experience? I'd like to see how that works. I think that'd be pretty cool. Well, like everything, you can contract around this stuff where you said we're going to use, if we have a dispute before we go to traditional court, right, we're going to give it a try. Go to whatever AI court and, you know, see what we think about. I guess the idea is like either we, two parties agree or we go to regular court no matter what. Just like anything. It's like if you sat at a coffee shop and decided on something and decided this ain't going to work, then you go to, then you go to court. Look, Disney just, um, they've got an ongoing case right now where, yeah, they tried to say that because this guy signed up for Disney plus for one month, yeah, he was forced to go to arbitration over an injury that happened in Disney world. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. All right. So a guy gets physical injury at Disney world and Disney's, Susan, Disney's lawyers say, because he signed up for Disney plus in terms of agreement, he is forced into arbitration instead. And then they get so embarrassed by the, the backlash, yeah, that they say, okay, we're going to drop that claim and we'll just do court now. I've heard that. Yeah. You know, we talk about this often, the terms and conditions. And now I guess they need to add a new metric to my list of questions when I have AI analyze the terms and conditions of anything that I check off because let's be real who reads all that. Nobody. We scroll to the bottom and we hit accept. But what I've been doing in the last six months is copying all of that legal jargon and dumping it into an LLM, a large language model and saying, what am I agreeing to here? How much of my data am I giving away? But now I need to add, am I signing into a binding arbitration here? Yeah. I mean, I would just ask it, is there a binding arbitration agreement? And what does it cover? I've noticed that would be the question because you could have a binding arbitration agreement that would hold up that's like, okay, that's too Disney plus because my service continually was failing and you charge me money or whatever. But it's wild to think that because I sign up for Disney plus, I'm providing an arbitration waiver to every shot, every single Disney product around the world. I'm not shocked at all. But in fact, kudos to the attorneys at Disney, they're smart enough to put that in there. Yeah. That's why they work at Disney. I've just noticed that in most software agreements, like you're looking at the software, there it is, the arbitration agreement. You go buried way down in a standard. That's pretty standard. All these software agreements. Look, man, there's a standard. There's the South Park episode where you know the same type of agreement ends up in a human centipede. I mean, you know, it's an extreme, but who reads that garb? I have so many products on my computer that I have agreed as though, and it's a good thing I don't have children because I probably gave away children in those agreements. Oh, that was in the Facebook agreement. You didn't read that one? Yeah, it probably is. And luckily, you know, I don't produce children, so you know, human centipede, I've never produced children, but again, another human hack that Sierra gave the world was an LLM is a long language model, which, you know, I see that, it didn't know what it was. Large language model. Large language model. Large language model. Okay. Large language model. Large language model. I did see the LLM and didn't know what it was, that was too stupid to ask. Now I know what it is. But again, the idea of AI, AI, I can't use that. Yeah, you can. You can figure out how to use a tool and then copy and paste terms of agreement and the things you agreed to, put it in there and ask certain questions and it will ask the questions for you. That is really cool. Yeah. You can just type in, give me the summary to Moby Dick and you don't have to read the book anymore. Wow. Well, yeah. Just high school hack, you're a high school hack for you. Maybe it will. Because there's, I bet there's at least. For all of our high schoolers. Yeah. I wasn't going to say. Because high school is a high schoolers are a high demographic for terrestrial radio. You know what? I think there's at least two middle schoolers that listen to the show. Oh. Your kids. But that's going to be it. I would say. And I don't think they listen to it all the time. Just if they're in the car and they're coming home from swim practice or ballet. They're like, well, turn daddy on unless you would nonsense. He's talking about some. Well, you need to tell the young ends if they do get AI to write a summary of Moby Dick, it needs to be rewritten because it shouldn't be in the same way they gave it to you. Yeah. You have to put it through three or four different. Jarvis is the one that is especially on AI is AI, which I'm guessing that's probably been broken now because it's been around for so long. Well, anything could be broken, but high school teachers don't have the ability to double check. Oh, yes, they can. Look, man, that is not true. They have these services now. Yeah, but not if you can triple check your double check through three or four AI's. Just run it through three or four different. I'll give you a story. I'll give you a story. Somebody else rewrite this. A lady well-born at a college, small college. She teaches business stuff. Dr. Lady well-born. She teaches business stuff, okay? And she gave a list of famous entrepreneurs and business people to do a small report on, right? Easy, easy thing. Well, one of the guys name was Volt, V-O-L-T, okay? So one of the geniuses that pay a lot of money to go to a private Jesuit school, goes to this class, gets the thing. He gets Volt, when he turns in the paper, it's about voltage. It's all about electricity. He never even read it. He got it. The only thing that would have been better. Running it out and just turned it in. It's all about voltage. The only thing that would have been better if it had been the Chevy Volt. The right thing lasted all about three weeks and not caught on fire. Yeah. That would have been short paper. Would you just be writing about it again? Especially about business, like, luminaries, and he writes about voltage and actual principal electricity. But Stacy, again, being the much nicer teacher than me, let him redo it where I would have made that. That guy would have left school by the time I was done. Yeah, well, you know, that's why the doctor lady is much more patient than me. She was very patient. Yeah. She's married to you. She's got to be patient. I just announced into all of our listeners, use AI, but read the output. Yes. Scott mentioned earlier, there can still be hallucination and also just read it. Use it to learn the content that you are putting into it. That's what I think it's the best tool for. It is a personal tutor for every subject for anything that there is data on. You can use it to help you learn. You can definitely read the output, especially before you like send them off in an email or as a report. I call it cocktail conversations. I learned just enough to be able to have it over like not where I'm playing myself off to be some scholar or get a grade. It's just, hey, I've learned enough about something where I could have a conversation, like conversation in a casual setting. Cocktail party dangers. Cocktail party dangers. And the more I drink, the more further down I go into the AI into the weirdness of. Yeah. Depends on the subject matter how far down that I also will go and most research. Well, we know that when you want to just disengage from conversation, you just tell people where birds aren't real. Birds aren't real? And then you get to disengage. You get to disengage. Although every day on the Internet and the Twitters, the Xs, I see that there's bird drones out there. It has got birds that are actually surveillance drones now and they are truly, they're actually more intricate than the diagrams. I would draw of the birds that aren't real that I thought the U.S. government had. So now it's fair to say that some birds aren't real. Right. You have to wonder if China developed them because of the birds aren't real. Like do you think that they were in production before birds aren't real or do you think birds aren't real, inspired, and entire trend of bird shaped surveillance? Chinese. I'm going 50/50 on this because they will steal anything and it was like, that's not a bad idea. Yeah. I'm 50/50 ever. You're teaching remote controlled cockroach. There's a National Geographic magazine, like I have 2007, I think. And I did see an espionage thing where someone had the A drone the size of a fly. Again, it's just optical and an audio thing. But it was a spy thing that was the size of a fly. So there you go. We live in interesting times, Scott, tonight. Well, you know, whatever the simulation wants us to see. Yeah. The simulation. Whatever the simulation wants us to experience, they give us that opportunity. I'm on a bad set of numbers on my simulation right now. I need a new set of data you put on my simulation. I need to jump a time on or two. A jump of time. We're probably going to. Like, I feel like it's about time for us to jump a time line. Do we all get to jump or do I have to like opt in? Is this like the seventh day Adventists do I have to? They say Trump not being, you know, unalived, done being killed as we all jumped some weird parallel part of the simulations. But we didn't look at one where he was kind and thoughtful and reasonable and reasonable. Crucial to the matrix was that there was a real physical world and they could get out of the matrix into that physical world. Again, if we go with the idea of the simulation and we're living this, this is the utopia, my God, I don't, it would be horrible anything else. Maybe it's purgatory. Well, again, you know, I'm not going to go the theology route, but you know, theology route says maybe heaven is already here, you know, just saying. So, I'm going to stop talking now. It's the game of the eighties. Well, we have lots to talk about. We're already coming back from the break. What I want to talk about is national radio day and this crazy thing that happened back in the thirties with Orson Welles and War of the Worlds, which fits right into all the blockchain stuff, we already talk about aliens coming up after the break. Welcome back to Beyond the Blockchain with Scott Tindall. Hey folks, welcome back into Beyond the Blockchain here on a Tuesday night, celebrating national radio day. During the break, we were talking about the different AIs we use and how Johnny and I are cheap. And so, you're going to teach us the ways of leveraging Grock appropriately. The X, the AI, yeah, X is the cheapest of all, Gropper 2.0, just got released. So, what's the latest with Grock 2.0? Grock 2.0 is amazing, it literally just launched today, so the 2.0, many of the data launched about a week ago, introducing generative AI image tool sets, so you can now generate hyper realistic images on the X platform within the platform through Grock with a sentence. But Grock 2.0, the full version, is just much more accurate, there are less hallucinations, they have tuned out some of the initial Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Fun Mode tone of voice that was in the earlier version. It's still using X and the internet in real time for the real time data advantage. And it seems to be awesome, I've not had that much time to play with it, it launched later in the afternoon today, but if you are an X premium plus subscriber, you now have access to Grock 2.0 on the app and on desktop, I would definitely recommend playing around with it. That's pretty impressive. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and look great to Grock, I'd be silly not to. I'm just being cheap. You guys should both be verified, so the blue check mark helps verify the authenticity of your identity, which is going to be important moving forward in a digital age, especially because you're both notable figures with that. We're so notable we thought Elon would just do check us without us having to apply. Clearly these guys, the only fools silly enough to talk about crypto and emerging technologies on terrestrial radio, they gotta be something special. Our city of Mobile just got, we don't use internet explorer anymore, we're finally upgraded to crane. Or our MySpace again. What was the Russian one that used to be around? I have no idea. Firefox? Firefox. That was Russian? I think so. Firefox? I don't know. I think it's a like firefight. I use it. I think Firefox is a Russian browser, Philip. Thanks for giving away all the country secrets. No wonder I got, never mind. Yeah. Firefox is great. It's far more secure than Chrome. Or you think? Secure. What is secure, really? What is secure? Right. Nothing more. I said more. I didn't say it was, you know, completely. It's National Radio Day, Johnny. Yeah. I looked it up, by the way. Tell me. What is National Radio Day? What is it? What's the time for community is across the country to celebrate radio? Yeah. The goal is actually to really bolster the RACO, the RACO, oh my gosh, the radio ecosystem highlighting local radio stations like 106.5 FM that focuses on local content and not just national content. Wow. I like it. Yeah. We're a big proponent of that. Do you have any examples of when radio has been impactful to the world? Is there anything you have on your mind? Because she found something today. Oh, Sierra. So she could start with what she found when radio was impactful or is when it is majorly impactful. This comes from a time beyond Sierra. This basically happened like when the pyramids were built. So today, while researching National Radio Day, I learned about an event in 1938, which was Orson Well's broadcast of the War of the World, which was meant to be for entertainment purposes. It was on Halloween Eve in 1938 and was meant to be kind of like a spooky theatrical horror show. But it was done in such a realistic way that it created mass panic if you're not familiar with the broadcast. I would highly recommend listening to it. There are recorded versions on YouTube and other places on the internet, but it's really cool. They did an hour long broadcast where they essentially simulated in real time an alien invasion in my home state of New Jersey Grover's Mill. Yeah. Yeah. And they were the Martian because that was the only thing we could can march off at the time. And they actually came from they were already planted in the earth. They didn't come from the stars. They were already planted in the earth that came out of the earth. That was the most. That was in the Tom Cruise version. Well, that's also in the thinking, not in the book, not in the real one. They landed in meteors and they had to go and they opened the meter so they came out. And they built flying saucers inside of the meteors, flew them up and sprayed the black oil all around the red plants. They're actually actually talks about a flying saucer going over it like a black boomerang almost flying over the coast. In the book, that's in the book, it has flying saucers in the book. Well, the broadcast was inspired by the book, but they did it in such a realistic way in real time interviewing people that were meant to be on site, including scientific experts. The military. And the military that those who didn't catch the beginning of the broadcast where there was apparently a disclaimer that it was fictional. People were tuning in thinking this was a live news update and people fled their home and called the police and there were even some attempted suicides. And Orson Welles was just the master of storytelling. So that's when he was the one drinking. Yeah. To have that on the radio and you have zero experience other than that, you want to know the conspiracy theory part of that, always the US government, the US government actually did that on purpose to see what people would actually do was so it was actually experiment to see how people would react, not just an entertainment thing. And then so that's why we had to shut down Roswell. Well, I'm just telling you that's one of the theories that they were trying to see was it was an experiment of society. And there's one other thing. So years later in 1949, a radio station in Ecuador took the script, did it from their radio station with a musician with some musicians and a couple actors and did it from their radio station years after everyone knew this was all radio hoax or radio entertainment. But Ecuador didn't get didn't get the memo, obviously. And when they ran it, it was so crazy in Ecuador, they panicked just like they did in America, that they stormed the radio station, the DJ would not let them in to the mob. They burned the radio station and sick people died. Wow. So radio killed people. Kill them. National radio day. Yeah. Who knew? Yeah. Maybe next week on the show, we'll reenact four of the world's with the stunning actors we have in our team. That would be so bad. That would be so bad. It would be so bad. It would be so bad. It would be amazing. Yeah. We'll see you next week on Beyond the Blockchain. Thanks, Johnny, Philip and Sierra. I'll see you soon. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)