Michelle picks her movie in this month's category of Women Directing!
WAYNE'S WORLD (1992)
Directed by Penelope Spheeris
more than just a movie
#346: WAYNE'S WORLD
You are listening to more than just a movie with Austin Gates and Alan Wetstone. Hello and welcome to another episode of more than just a movie. I'm Austin Gates and I'm sitting across the country from Alan Wetstone and Michelle Wetstone. By the way, we are everywhere you find podcasts including Apple Podcasts and Spotify, so please follow subscribe, write comment and smash that like button. Yes, there's 10 million podcasts out there. Why not add one more to your playlist? The theme for August is still women directing films. Michelle returns and picks the movie Wayne's World released in 1992 written by Mike Myers, Bonnie Turner and Terry Turner and directed by Penelope Spheris. Wayne's World stars Mike Myers, Dana Carvey, Rob Lowe, Tia Carrera and many more we will hopefully get to. Wayne's World is based on the SNL sketch of the same name created by Mike Myers that debuted on the show in early 1989 and would be an SNL staple for the next five years. I've probably seen this film once for every time I've been alive times 10 so a lot. So Michelle Allen, what are your thoughts and feelings about Wayne's World? So I picked this because I thought you guys could use a little levity after The Hurt Locker is a great movie, but it also is a little heavy. So that's kind of my mind was going in a direction of a comedy. So that's kind of how I landed here. I mean, it is silly and funny and all of the things and just very you can have it on on the background. Most of us have done that at least a couple times. Yeah, it's just a really fun movie. I thought it would be a fun chat with us. Ben enjoyed it. I mean, he did. Yeah, I mean, and there's no there's no reason why he can't watch it. And I mean, it also reveals its age a little bit in the way that some of the dialogue in the film can be a little, I don't know, it just it, even though it's directed by a woman, it's almost it's from the perspective of a dude. And I mean, she's calling the shots. So she clearly is doing that with intent. And I think that that's a lot of times reflective of when a movie is made is I guess what I'm trying to say. And I bet there was an easier way to say it than going all the way down to Southern California before coming back with my point. Well, you're onto something because Penelope Spheris is known for the three documentaries, the decline of Western civilization, which focuses on punk and metal music and all that. And they're all available streaming, I believe on. I've seen that one. At least the first two are, and they're great documentaries. But she directed a film called suburbia from the 1980s. And she got a story about that. Yes, you do. And you may have told what at least one story about it before, but she has worked with a lot of men. And she's been around for a long time, like she knew Lauren Michaels before SNL even was on television, like she goes way back in the biz. And she has a great sense of humor, but she comes from like a metal perspective because she's worked with so many of those guys. And of course, as a fan of the music. So this is definitely a different thing for her. But yeah, I mean, it's interesting that, you know, yes, there's a female point of view in the movie, but it's not as big as all the men in the film. And even the female point of view fits into the male point of view role in in that respect. So yeah, it's not a critique of the or commentary of the downfall of filmmaking or anything like that. The movie's funny. You should watch it. Don't take it serious. I'm just saying that it's something that stuck out to me when I watched the movie again. I was really surprised how much I still laugh at this movie. And I've said that about some other movies. But I this was everything to me when I was 14 years old. It was on HBO a lot, which is mainly why I've seen it so many times. And it is you were saying Michelle that it's a background movie. And it's one of those movies that if it was on cable, you would continue to watch it from any point as some movies tend to be if they're if they're good enough in my estimation. But I was surprised that laughing out loud at a lot of the things that are still very funny to me. Those are the gags that are timeless. I get you can do them today. You could do them 30 years ago. And they're still funny, no matter. They just have to be done the right way by the right person. Yes, and timed right. I was pretty obsessed with SNL around this time because just the cast at that time was just magic. And when this movie came out, we all knew the skit. I don't think it was the first movie made from an SNL skit. But this is right around the time they started cranking those out. We talked about the blues brothers on SNL before it was a film. Yeah, yeah. And but yeah, they were just everywhere. And it was just just so entertaining. And I still love the reruns from that time, which is funny because I haven't watched an episode of SNL in years to tell you the truth. It's all YouTube clips for me. Unfortunately, when I see it, I've not watched the full 90 minutes in some time. Yeah, I every once in a while, if I see they're having a host, I'm interested in I'll try and catch it or try and catch the recorded version of it. But I still find it funny, but that cast and then maybe like the late 70s cast are my favorites. Hands down of that show. Probably the first two decades of SNL, in my opinion, are the best of SNL. I do agree with Alan, but there is something to be said about why is a particular cast your favorite cast. Now, Alan is right as far as my taste goes 75 to 95. I love everybody that's on that show, even in the weird, like 84, 85 season, those were still interesting to and add a lot of funny people on them. But like this was so 92. Dana Carvey is like he's in his I think fifth or sixth season and Mike Myers is maybe on like his third maybe fourth season. So they overlapped with like Farley and Sandler and Chris Rock. And then there was like Kevin Neal and Dana Carvey, Phil Hartman, Jan Hooks. It has been said by people that have been on the cast of Saturday Night Live. There's a podcast I happen to listen to. They do not need my promotion, but it's called Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade. Very funny show. And they have a blast and they have some clips from it. They talk over the desk personally. Yeah, they do it on radio. Like they'll play clips on this radio station that I listen to sometimes. So they were but like the in the beginning, the thing with them was they would have cast members and like guest hosts. But one of the things that has come up a couple of times is that it seems like if you have a favorite period of time with SNL, whether or not like you know, hey, the all these years were great. But the one that sort of fit for you for Michelle and myself being the same age, it's like, you know, late 80s to mid 90s, those that group of maybe 15 to 20 people that overlapped with one another and just all the movies they were in and worked together a lot and everything. That was my sort of SNL years, even though I've liked the later SNL in the earlier of course, because I love the origins of the show. It's crazy to think what it was like. In fact, there's a film coming out about it in October about the I believe it's just covering the very first episode, their very first air. So I'm very excited about that. I hope it is done well and that I will like it. But yeah, I mean, so Alan, you're saying 75 to 95. But really, so when you're 15, who's on SNL then? So you have like Eddie Murphy, oh, yeah, like Joe Piscopo and and there was like a bunch of people that came and went went, went. Maybe Jim Balushi, John Balushi's brother, I think was maybe on with them for maybe a season. It was kind of weird in the early 80s. There was a lot of transitional cast members. It was almost as if they were not extra. It's almost like if they worked for a temp agency, there were a core group. And then it felt like performers rotated in and out during those years in the like probably like 82 to 85 ish, maybe 86 ish, something like that. And the episodes were still funny. And I don't think that they they lacked. But it just didn't, not that the show ever felt cohesive in the sense that it had a beginning, a middle and an end. But it always felt like all of the characters belonged there. Whereas some of those years, even though some of those characters were funny, they didn't feel like they were a part of the cast so much as they were killing time, I guess. I don't know if that's the right way to put it, but Lauren Michaels after the fifth season quit for five years. So there was, I believe it was Dick Ubersall that took over the show from an NBC. I did, I read the book live from New York. This is Saturday night. It's like interviews with everybody from the first season, whether they were writers or directors or cast members all the way till like 2000. I want to say two or three. Right, well, you've also got Gilda Radner, Jane Curtin, those people also, those first five years were great. But the thing that I was, this is what I was going to jump to, though, sorry, I'm going to try to wrap this up as fast as I can. Do you agree, by the way, with me, Michelle, would you say that period of time, like late 80s to mid 90s was really kind of your SNL? Maybe even that would be 96, 97 even. Oh, yeah. What I was going to say though is, you know, what makes an SNL movie an SNL movie? So this might be open to an argument. Wayne Garth will be there in a minute. This is a true example of an SNL movie, not just because current cast members, Mike Myers and Dana Carvey are the stars of the film. It's that they had to shoot this movie and then rush back to New York and work on the show. Right. Like that to me, I'm like, if that's not an SNL film, it's one thing, oh, that guy used to be an SNL. So did that guy, but it's not like Lauren Michaels produced it and he's like, Hey, I'm going to send you off out West and, you know, make a film, come back to New York, you know, do all that shit. And yeah, the conversation went exactly like that. I'm sure he talks like that too. Yeah. He sounds like Dr. Evil because it's funny, because if I do Lauren Michaels, I'm like, he's not like Dr. Evil. I'm like, that's who he based it on. Um, but anyway, though, yeah, that's what to me makes an SNL movie and SNL movie. Okay. They're working around SNL to make a film. Same with Tommy Boy. Spade and Farley had to do that as well. Sure. But the the show, and that's how come they're so connected that it's impossible really to not talk about both in the conversation because the show, in fact, gave birth to the movie. Those characters didn't exist without SNL. And then there's not a bunch of movies that are like that, even though they're alum from SNL itself. What was the Pat the. Oh, they made a Pat movie. Yeah. Julius Sweeney. That's so that's another one where the show gives birth to the movie. There's a few. There's a few, but not a bunch. Stuart's, I mean, Stuart saves his family. I love Stuart. That's right. That is a good film actually. It sounds like it would be horrible, but it's actually way underrated. I've never seen it. And it actually like comes from the heart that I got on it. Yeah, I would check it out. And I'm worth it. But this movie, you guys, Wayne's world, whether you were 10 years old when the film came out, or you were 30 when the film came out, this film and these characters changed the English language. There's a lot of moments like that where like, like, I'm there or go then I'm gone. Like, I remember that, that kind of stuff. But speaking of dialogue, this is how long it's been since I've seen this movie. That's what she said. Who like took that line? Dude. Everyone. Steve Carell in the office had that like once in episode. Like years later though. But rightly so, he did pull that from Wayne's world. Like his character did, but it's just funny how that had a second wave from another funny guy. Yes. I was like, Oh, wow. Like I had completely forgotten about that line and that joke because who literally who doesn't use that every once in a while. Well, arguably like Scott said it more than Wayne Campbell. Oh, absolutely. But yes, good dialogue, you know, cheesy, a little bit in some moments, but it intentionally so. Yeah, deliberate. Makes it funny. And the whole fourth wall thing too. Oh, I mean, so much of like more than I remembered. Me too. I had forgotten that he broke the fourth wall literally from the beginning of the film to the end. Yeah. I mean, Garth those two dead pools got nothing on Wayne Campbell. Okay. And I was thinking this is before I forget this too. The only I think it's only one other person. I could be wrong about this. I think no, that's not true because I believe Rob Lowe does look directly into camera when he's having his main cavity searched. But Ed O'Neill takes over the camera. Why is it that if you kill a man in war, you're a hero. But if you do it in the heat of passion, he's in the second one too. And he's just funny. I love the little part of the place. You know, if you stab a man in winter, Steve rises from the wind. But the fact that he takes over Wayne's camera and he's like, wait, come here, come here. He's telling the camera. Come back over here. Get away from him. Well, and he's just like straight faced, not an ounce of comedy and what he's saying, which is what makes it funny. Oh God. Yeah. I, yeah, you wouldn't have with Ed O'Neill, man, not when he's talking that shit. That's for sure. But okay. So we should point this out for those of you who don't know or very new to Wayne's world. And if you have not seen it, I don't think you'd be listening to this. So I'm speaking to no one on that. But I like that it's sort of like they do a it's not a podcast. It's like a video podcast, right? So it's public access, which means they can do pretty much what they want within reason. Probably they can't curse up a storm or anything like that. But this is their show and that, you know, they have the equipment in Wayne's actual basement at his parents house. So it's that and they seem very content. Their viewership comes to them organically. They are not, you know, like people who watch a network and the shows on that network, because I don't know, they like the types of shows that that network makes or whatever the case may be. So I mean, they're content because the only people watching their show are people that like what they're doing and they like what they're doing. And they get to keep doing it. Yeah, it said the plot description is this utter bullshit. Two slacker friends try to promote their public access cable show. Well, no, they don't. No, they have they're always what they want. Yeah. I'm not hoping almost in the movie. I'm just saying like it's they are beat they are exploited. But that's not but that's that's not the movie that's whoever wrote that bullshit. Yeah, so disagree. Yeah, there's a totally whoever watched the movie and then wrote that clearly wasn't watching the movie. They're already cool with what they've got. Yeah. I mean, Wayne does say I would love to do this full time, but he doesn't say anything like, you know, we're going to take this party on the road or anything like that. Yeah, he doesn't say I'd sell out the entire show and change its entire format just so that I could get paid. Yeah, he just says it would be cool if we could do this for a living. That's it though. Yeah. And there's nobody like driving by Wayne and Garth when they're going into the club like, Hey, Wayne Garth bite me your show socks. Like, there's none of that. Everybody likes them. Yeah. Yeah. They're hometown celebrities. Yeah. No, we were talking about that because they actually been made the comment that if these guys existed today with this equipment and their basement, it would just be a YouTube channel. Yeah, 100% and probably very successful. If I'm going to speculate, right? Yeah, they would have one more potential exposure to people that are like minded audience wise and they would have even more latitude to say and do what they wanted to on their show. Yeah, we'd have a YouTube channel and say, fuck, right? Whereas you couldn't have a public access show and say, fuck, no, you'd have to self censor. Yeah, you'd have to bleep. This is PG 13, Wayne's world and there is no F word. No, but there is some like implied things, sexual things. Oh, no, there's sexual innuendo all day every day in the film. Yeah, and swing high on the stroke ability scale. Yeah, that being that's it's there, but nobody gets to drop the F on which which is fine because Mike Myers is hilarious. Dana Carvey is hilarious. I mean, even Mike Myers like, first of all, like this character, Wayne, its origins are from when Mike Myers was like 12. So this is like mid 70s ish mid to late 70s. And that was like a metalhead dude from Canada because he is Canadian, first and foremost. But yeah, so Aurora, Illinois, close enough. I don't know how they arrived at that. I think maybe it was just for the sake of like, let's Americanize the Wayne's world like story. But it doesn't mention it. But it attaches it to a big city. But with the character, yes, of course, which is important, especially for them being in and around the music business. So it makes sense. But Mike Myers, like I had invented this character long before and Garth was invented and of course characterized by Dana Carvey after, you know, they met being cast members together on SNL. So it's like perfect like Garth is like insecure and awkward. And Wayne is like super positive and like outgoing socially, you know what I mean? Well, and also, yeah, and also Garth. Garth is smart. His whole like triangulating satellites to project the signal into the limousine. I mean, come on. Garth really looks up to Wayne wishes he could be as outgoing as Wayne. Right. But also Garth comes into his own in the show, where he sort of breaks outside of that. I wish I could be like Wayne. Hey, look at me. I'm Garth basically right after Wayne is feeling sorry for himself and he's like, I lost my girl. I lost my show. I lost my best friend. I'm being shit on. All right, come on back. Come on back. Yeah, he's talking to the camera. I'm sorry. I got a little excited. But let's talk about one of the great douchebags in cinema. Rob Lowe is just a lovely douchebag in this. He is the king of douches. And then he, yes. But he also plays a very similar douche in Tommy Boy, like a year later, or whenever very he's the guy that's washed up. He's the washed up version of Benjamin in Tommy Boy. Right. But I mean, he's the version that went to prison. Yes. That's that's actually a great description of that. Yeah, it does sort of overlap in that way. That is funny. Somebody who saw the whoever the casting person was for Tommy Boy saw it's world and said, that's our fucking douche right there. And boom, Rob Lowe is in Tommy Boy. Well, he's part it's perfect though, because he is successful and attractive and you know, and not SNL alum. Oh, that's true. But yeah, he he definitely fits right into how he should. And then there's a whole, I don't know, like the vibe is perfect for him. He's totally game. Yeah. This is not a guy that takes himself seriously if he's going to be in the movie with these guys. He's he's in the movie because he knows how he had been he had hosted SNL before. Oh, yeah. So he knows a little bit about SNL, obviously. But he's not doing this film if he doesn't believe in it and believe in the comedy of the characters and the whole thing. And I mean, it's awesome that he's managed to that he managed to salvage his career. I mean, he he had a scandal there that was really ugly and it could have just that could have been the last time you heard of Rob Lowe and the fact that he was able to to come back from that. I mean, it's pretty impressive even though his scandal was right up there on the Duchy meter. He probably owes a little debt of gratitude to Penelope's Ferris for putting it in film. Yeah. Um, other, you know, filmmakers, producers, directors saw a reason. I don't think he was completely like flat doing nothing. But this actress Tia Carrera, who plays Cassandra, she's the lead singer and bass player of a band called Crucial Taunt. There's some funny band names in there. I love it. Sounds like an 80s band name. Yeah, I it's great. Well, they were like, Oh, I forget how it went because meatloaf plays the door guy at the gas works at the gas works club. And he's like, who played last night? And he was like, Oh, it was so and so in the shitty Beatles. And he's like, yeah, the shitty Beatles. How were they? And he's like, Oh, they sucked. Yeah. So it's not just a metaphor then. Yeah, which I think is funny, but like meatloaf rock solid in that like 15 second performance. But Tia Carrera, I had not seen her in anything ever before this. And this movie like gave her a career. Because I what was one of the things true lies she was in. She played like the bad guy in true lies, which is a great movie. Maybe we'll talk about that one time. But she is doing her own singing in this movie. I was wondering, I thought it was her. I didn't look, but I was pretty sure it was her that voices consistent with her speaking voice. And her speaking voice, she is putting on the accent in this movie that never occurred to me until years later. Yeah, she's born in the States. Yeah, she's born. I think she's born in Hawaii, as a matter of fact. Yes, we actually did look that up. But yeah, she also another actor that didn't go on to do a string of comedies after this, but was totally game. And and I know this sounds like I'm kissing this movie's ass. I buy that she likes Wayne. Okay. Yeah. At this point, she probably does know Mike Myers not necessarily know him like their buddies and have drinks. But I mean, he's been a staple on SNL for a minute. He's a funny guy. So he probably really is enjoyable to work with as is Dana Carvey. And it probably didn't hurt to work with Rob Lowe. Yeah, that probably was fun, I would think. I hadn't seen this in a minute. And it was something that they came to mind before I hit play on the DVD. I'm like, I wonder if this still works, because it's a lot of him making her laugh, which is great and everything. And I also buy that Garth is not very dateable because he's so awkward. Even though he has his like moments in that, he has his wins in the film here and there. But otherwise, he's just super awkward, but it's super alert. Yes, but it but it works. And I mean, so you don't really like after their argument as the plane's flying over and you don't hear anything that he says and he's like, kiss your mother with that mouth. And then, you know, they get they get back together there at the donut shop. And he goes, let me tell you something I've learned about women. He's like, they want you to come get. Is it Donna Dixon? Is that who that is? That's right. It's Dan Accroyd's wife, who plays Garth's love interest that you never even see it's in like one scene where she's like, I love you too, God. And she's got like, that's her one line. Otherwise, there's like, you know, it's an over cranked shot of her, a close up of her, and like wind blowing her hair and kind of haloer. Yes. Yeah. And the Fox lady thing. Yeah, but it is like, how does he know that all of a sudden? About who in me? She was there at the beginning of Tom Hank's career in bosom buddies. That's right. Yes. But she was in, if we want to go around a comedy circle, the film, I think she met Dan Accroyd on the film, Dr. Detroit. If you remember that crazy, she's one of the, the, Fran Drescher. I haven't seen that in a long time, but she's in that as well. So I think Dan Accroyd may have met her on that. Anyway, though, she kind of is just a face in the movie. But the whole thing about them getting the show in the beginning of the film is there's a young woman, I only sky. Okay, I only sky makes an appearance whenever she feels like it in a film. In every one, every eight years, she pops. She was in Zodiac and she's good in it, but I'm like, where have you been, Ioni? She's in four rooms. Yeah, she's one of the witches. But yeah, she acted sparingly. She did like a large portion of her acting between like ages 14 and 19. Because I think she's only maybe 21, but she is Rob Lowe's sometimes girlfriend, it would appear. And she's flipping around the channels and they, she pulls up Wayne's world. And she's like, this is great. These guys are hilarious. And Rob Lowe's like, I mean, okay, I don't get it, I guess. And then a light bulb goes off because he's a television producer in Chicago. And he's going to buy them. Right. Just buy this young woman telling him, oh, they're super hilarious. He thinks he's got money in the bank with Wayne and Garth. And it's like that part, it's not important that it makes a whole lot of sense. Because he seems to be somebody that's already fairly successful at the moment. Like, what is this going to do for him? Because it obviously, as if you've seen the movie, it doesn't, it just gets a hole in the ass. But, but otherwise, you know, it is sort of like, what is the villain driven by? Well, not much until, of course, he meets Cassandra. Her character is such a good balance in this. She's, I don't want to say normal, but, you know, she's not too, too anything. She's beautiful and talented and funny and sweet and smart. Like, I just really like the Cassandra character. And I feel like Tia Cair was well cast for her. And that she's just a lot of fun to watch. Oh, I loved that they cast her and not like blonde hair, blue eyes. Yeah, you know, 100%. And she had to lip sync. Right. You know what I mean? I liked the direction. And this is a testament to Penelope Spiress. She was like, I'm not going to do that shit. I want somebody you can do to show me something. Yeah, don't phone it in. Right. And dude, like, she wants people that bring something to the set and not her having to babysit a bunch of actors and then have to bring in all this extra crap. And I think that with the casting in this movie, like that, that shows. But one of the things, I have to mention this scene, which I always thought was super funny. And one of the things I laughed out loud is, you know, they meet, they have, you know, they have that conversation. He took, he bought some Cantonese tapes. And he's learning, but he's sitting there with the tapes and he's like, "Candra, I have something I want to say." And is he really speaking? Is he just doing like, but I, but then she comes back and she's doing, she had to learn the dialogue as well, which doesn't really show oddly enough. Again, the testament to like her performing skills, but then they get to know each other and it's not, he seems so content with maybe just hanging in and everything again, like a guy that's positive and it isn't going to like push it. And then you get the idea that they have hooked up and consummated their relationship. And he's in bed with her doing the camera one camera two thing. And she looks fantastic in those shots when he's closing one eye, opening the other. Well, whoever was working the camera got her on like just an amazing day. She looked so good with, and she's laughing at everything. And how could you not? He's pulled his underwear off his butt. And then he humps their baby caties on top of it. And he's like, who's Anthony? Who's the Anthony? And then he's like strutting around the room. Yeah, those are the fruit allumiest. Oh, goodness. He doesn't have a lie in him. Yeah, but she doesn't say, stop it. You're being annoying. She's just laughing at him. That's it. In that scene. Yeah, I mean, they're compatible in that respect. Yeah, he's a clown and she likes the humor. Well, so Wayne has an ex-girlfriend. Stacy. Lara Flynn Boyle. Her character is injured quite a bit repeatedly in this movie by her own fault. Nobody is, you know, forcing her to be injured, but she's mental. I love it though. Are you mental? When you've seen this movie as many times as we have you notice things like how she wears a Wayne necklace. And she's like, just because we broke up doesn't mean we can't go out. And he's like, that is exactly what that Are you broke up two months ago? Yeah. But get the net when when they're at the club in Garth is waiting in line to go to the bathroom. And she walks up to him and Danny Carvey's like, like he's like cowering away. That's so funny. But that the street hockey scene. Oh, yeah. I it's like it's one of my favorites in the movie. Game on her stunt double hits. The hood of that car so hard. They hurt to watch. I'm like, Oh my God. Why are things like that funny? Well, because she stands up and she seems to be okay. And she had a neck brace on too. Yeah, she says she's okay. She pops up from the other side of the car. I'm okay. She's concussed. Like she's still concussed after having dropped through the window at the goddamn club. And all all based on Garth's advice. Oh, what should I do? You should date somebody else. Oh, okay. Good idea. I'll do that. He just crabs the next guy. And like, I love the site gags in this, just some of the things that are happening in the background. And of course, the things they do with like product placement when Benjamin Rob Lowe's like, okay, you guys, we got to think about the network this that and the other thing there's rules. And Mike Myers pulls out the pizza hut. He's like, I see it differently, Benjamin. I won't bow down to sponsors. And then Dana Carvey's got all the Reebok gear and he's got the Reebok pumps on that was those were new then like early nineties was the era of the pump and Reebok was in first place with that. But he's like, I think he's just really sad. He's got everything Reebok. I mean, those though, that shit is still funny. So I will, this is related even though it's not related. So the 1992 US Olympics team, basketball team in particular, Reebok was the official shoe and sponsor for, I don't know if it was everybody on the US Olympic team. But Michael Jordan had a contract with Nike and he legit covered up the Reebok logo in every fucking 1992 Olympic basketball pick. That's funny. And that was the very first year. That's why they're called the dream team, where we had professional athletes playing. That was okay. That's a good thing to point out. That's the Olympics got over. I mean, Wayne and Garth are sporting some Chuck Taylor's, you know, Congress, which is cool, which is still cool. People still wear those after one of they've been around for 100 years. Those never gone out of style, probably never will. I saw somebody wearing a yellow pair today and they were fantastic. But the early 90s was like the sneaker boom in sports, big time. Everybody wanted a pair of Air Jordans or Reebok pumps or LA gear. But speaking of more of that, like, I like how they close that out, where he's like, I've got a headache thinking about all of this. And Garth pulls out Neupren. All right. But that's one of those things that it's like, nobody gave a shit about Neupren then either. They just threw it in there. Little yellow. Yeah. Yeah. Ben was like, what is that? I'm like, it doesn't exist anymore. It did matter then. That's how much it matters now. And for Wayne and Garth being guys that are like metal fans, there's not a lot of and there never really has been there more of like hard rock or rock and roll guys. But certainly, you know, you could see them going to see like Sabbath and they go to see Alice Cooper, which he has a great pair, you know, into the 80s was definitely more like metal. But a lot of the music in the film outside of Feed My Frankenstein that Alice Cooper song, you know, there's a Red Hot Chili Peppers is in there. There's a couple of songs, they're covers, but that crucial taunt performs, or at least if her hair sings them. And then there's also, there's one song and I forgot about this cue in the soundtrack when they go to Ben when Garth Cassandra and Wayne go to Benjamin's apartment. The song that plays on the exterior shot of the Chicago high rise place is Temple of the Dogs All Night thing, which is like one of my favorite songs. And that's and maybe one of my favorite albums, but I was like, Oh, wow, that was before that album even came out. So, you know, Penelope's Fierce got her hands. Can I, you know, Chris or Chris Cornell or whoever was like, can I please use this in Wayne, any better and Chris. Yeah, I mean, like she taught, she knew dudes then in the early and since the 70s. So she, not only does she know Hollywood people, she knows people in the music industry as well. It's like she's a, she's a jack of all trades filmmaker, if the shed makes sense and understands how to get the things that she needs for her project. Okay, well, speaking of music, we can't chat about this movie without talking about that huge queen moment in the car. Yeah, super famous. Iconic. I mean, it kind of gave that song a second wind with this. If we didn't bring this up, I would have gone into a deep depression after we stopped recording because I would have been like, I don't, I'm gonna, we're gonna have to, we're gonna, I gotta call them back. No, I love queen. You knew that this was gonna come up so silly, so great. And they play it like three or four times. Like there's a little bit of dialogue and then they go back to Bohemian Rhapsody and a little bit of something else and they pick up their drunk friend back to the song. It's, it's, it's, well, Bohemian Rhapsody is a long song and they break it up. They pick up their drunk friend and then they like they go to Stan Makita's and everything. But yes, that lip syncing scene is iconic in cinema. Yes, I do not care what kind of argument you have against that statement it is. And they also, queen, Freddie Mercury, I believe was still alive when they were making the movie, but he would, I don't think he would live long enough to actually see Wayne's world. But this did bring that song back onto the radio and yes, probably, you know, Brian May and the others were saw a few more bucks. So real quick, because of Mike Myers and I'm probably Penelope's Ferris as well. I would assume everybody was down for that song. Oh, yeah. Great song. Sure, it was real. I'm sure that that was fun. That part was fun to film. But just a really quick funny aside, you have you seen Bohemian Rhapsody? Mm hmm. Okay. That, that little scene where Mike Myers is the producer and he's like, it's not like a bunch of teenagers are going to be headbanging in the car to this 20 years from now. See what I'm saying though, like how did, could Mike Myers ever have imagined in 1991 when they're shooting this that he was going to play that guy? I'm able to say those lines. Like that is fucking awesome. That's like, I mean, come on, you can die after that moment. Yeah, it's a full circle moment. I laughed so hard because I don't know that I'm sure plenty of people got the reference, but I don't think everyone did. Well, you have to have seen what I mean, exactly. I did listen to the commentary or I don't listen to all of it. I listened to like two thirds of it before I went to bed last night and Penelope's Ferris is doing it by herself, this commentary, which I think she recorded it on in the early 2000s, I think. But she said that if you were, you know, the teenager watching this, you might have had the 10 year old brother or sister who was curious about this. And then your parents might have been like, why do they find those funny? And then the parents were checking it out. So at like all these, you know, it generations overlapped in their sharing the, you know, the sense of humor of the film and enjoying it, which I think is cool. And this is like a, there's hardly anything that's that questionable in this movie in this day and age. I honestly like, we have watched some movies and have been like, Oh, Jesus like that. Saturday Night Fever, like, no, but great film, but Jesus, but this is not a yes, this is a 32 year old film, but it isn't. I think it lives in three and still pumps a fist. Well, and also you could still for the most part make this movie. Yeah, this is not a movie that you can't reproduce, you know, three decades later, because some of the content is so offensive that modern society just can't stomach it. I mean, yeah, you'd have to sand a couple of the corners, but for the most part, you could do this now. You could make a version of this. Dude, just the other day, and I swear to God, this is before Michelle picked this film for us to talk about on more than just a movie. This is a couple of weeks ago. And you even said like, ribbed for pleasure. I did. And it was random and had nothing to do with Wayne's world. You just said it based on something else we were talking about, which I guess it was condoms. I don't know what we were talking about. I don't either. I'm saying that's what I mean, like, where did that come from? You know, it just comes out. It's sticks. And then, you know, it comes out every once in a while. I was reminded of another one that I'll be looking for a conversation to insert this into to Benjamin doesn't have any friends. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick. I know which, by the way, is vanilla ice cream with pralines and bits of penis in it. Yeah, I'm not sure how I get that into a conversation, but I'm going to look for an opportunity. No, but that is Dana Carvey. Just improv that he's like, if he was an ice cream flavor, he thought for a second, pralines and dick. And also, we haven't talked about it, and I didn't look it up. But I remember the movie getting a lot of hype. And I'm guessing that financially, it was successful. And rolling it out right after that quickly, a sequel, probably equally as successful as my guests. Yeah, I mean, and cranking it out when that skits so relevant on SNL, I'm sure didn't hurt anything. Here's the interesting thing about some of the landmarks in this so that like Stan Makita's, right? Yes, that is not a real donut place. And I did not know this, but come to find out it's a play on Tim Hortons, being the Canadian chain and Mike Myers being Canadian himself and, you know, knowing Tim Hortons pretty well, which is no longer just a Canadian thing. Right. I can't remember who bought them, but when I saw the movie, I'm like, oh, this is cool. Like, I've never seen one of these places. I had no idea that was fake. That just looked too. How can that be fake? But, you know, you think, well, you got to, you got to pay some money to dress up a flower shop, I think it was to make it look like a coffee and donut place. And I love like the revolving skater, Stan Makita on the roof of the place. But also, like, the cars that are stacked on the spike, that actually is something in Chicago, but I don't know what. That is not ringing a bell. I wonder if that was real. This is some of the things that Penelope's fear is said. She got driven a little bit nuts by making this movie or like had a bit of a hard time. I think in later years, she was like, yeah, this is really tough. And Mike Myers was kind of a pain in the ass. But in this commentary, she sounded like she enjoyed it. I feel like maybe she was holding back, but Mike Myers had never really done a film before. He had only worked on SNL and TV. All right. So things are different on a film set than they are in Studio 8H in New York City. Okay. Well, plus it, SNL is live, mostly different and mostly they'll slip in those skits that are prerecorded so that people can change clothes. But and he was concerned with things that might not be funny or might be a little like overkill. And I guess she said that he and Dana Carvey were always like crazy about the props they wanted. So they'd show up on set and Dana Carvey would be like, wait a second, I need to have this in Garth Garth's room. Garth would have this in his room and then they'd have to go find something where on SNL, they have a huge prop department be like, I need a horse, three dogs, and the original shoots and ladders game. And like somebody would have that and bring it on to the set. Whereas this is like, you know, a pre planned film situation. And she's like, fuck, like, come on, let's shoot this. What do you mean you need like a toy authentic this or whatever it is? So she got a little, you know, she's kind of used to the documentary film, uh, form of filmmaking, where everything is just happening. And on this like, she's like, fuck, we got to go out and get this, like, yeah, we have to get a licorice dispenser for the Pacer for the Merthmobile. Right. There was no Amazon back then. Yeah. So it was like she, but I guess Mike Myers was, I guess he was a, I don't want to say control freak, but he was, this is his character first and foremost. Like he had this from when he was a kid and I think even did appear as Wayne on some thing before he was on SNL, but there was no Garth. It was just him being like, Oh, I really dig music. Excellent. You know, like doing something like that with the hat on and the, the wig, but either way, no matter how much time is gone between her feeling one way or maybe looking back and be like, Oh, we did not work well together to, you know what? This is, it's amazing that we were part of something that people are talking about 30 years later and probably will be 30 years from now with the same kind of enthusiasm. But yeah, I didn't want to like dig up dirt on Penelope's Ferris because I get it because she was just like, what the fuck? Now we got it for like, what was the one thing? Something in particular. Oh, when Wayne says Garth, come here, I got to show you something after they had their little fight and he's like, are we still buds? And he's like, yeah, we're still buds. So Wayne's like, Garth, I got to show you something. They're in stamikitas. He opens a door and Gar's like, what, what is this? And he's like, Oh, I always wanted to have a room where these guys were training to be like in a James Bond film or something. Yeah. Penelope's Ferris was like, what in the fuck are you talking about? What is this have to do with us finishing the movie in 32 and a half days? Because that's all we have. And he's like, no, we got to have it. It makes sense. I don't know if he said it makes sense, because it does it. No, it's completely. Okay, back to those conversations of yesterday. If you took something out of some movies, the movie wouldn't miss it. If you took that out of this movie, it wouldn't miss it. It's funny for sure, but it wouldn't miss it if it wasn't there. Yeah, we need to get back into that groove. All right. We pick the scenes that don't fit. Yeah. So the sculpture, created by Dustin Schuler, is called the spindle. And it isn't burwin, which is a neighborhood that's slightly south and fairly west. It's it's not far from like Cicero in in Chicago too. So like, you know, you've got like Lincoln Park and Rogers Park and Raven's Wood and whatever else. It's like that. It's like a neighborhood like that burwin. And if I recall correctly, a lot of burwin jokes that go around Chicago. I don't know about these days, but when I live there in the 90s, yeah, it's not a neighborhood everybody was trying to move to. And this is a film that is just rife with cameos. You got Brian Doyle Murray, who plays the guy who owns the arcade who who was one of the sponsors for the Wayne's World Show. And he's funny. His wife is played by Colleen Camp. She's been in 100 films and she's really fun. There's a really funny scene with her. And one of the Delaware's brothers, what is Michael Delaware plays one of the Wayne and Garst buddies that also is like a cameraman. And he like sneaks up on her and he's like, do I make you nervous? And she looks at him like just full on fright. And she's like, no, she fucking crushes that. No, and that seemed like so funny. Also, there's more Robert Patrick reprises the character of the T-1000. Yes, when he pulls Wayne over. And then I was thinking like, even back in the day when I saw it, I'm like, wow, that was really soon after that film came. Yes, seeing this boy. It was like not even a year, I don't think. Now we've talked about Lee Ferguson at least once before on this podcast, but he was in a film that Michelle picked called Monster. And he plays Eileen's first kill in the film. Okay. That son of a bitch, but he's the guy that's like, I love you, man. Like that's that guy. And he's funny as hell. I was like, God, I feel badly that he had to go out and play such a horrible. He was on the Oz show as well. I was like, no, I like him being the headbanger buddy. Oh, and also Kurt Fuller, who is like Rob Lowe's producer, Benjamin's producer in it. That's funny. He's in a lot of stuff. Yes, he has been in tons of films, another like great character actor. So there's like a lot of familiar faces. And of course, Alice Cooper himself is in the film and actually has lines and it made me think of when I was a kid like young, like maybe seven, eight, nine and seeing an Alice Cooper poster and not really like computing that. Yes, I may have heard some of his music already, but not knowing that's that guy and seeing a poster with like Alice Cooper, and he's got the dark makeup that they put him in the makeup too, which is how you would have seen him perform throughout the 80s and up into this moment. Yeah, because I think he still does it. He does that and then he plays nine holes of golf. Seriously, he's like a big league league. Yeah. But this is, you know, you were talking about just a moment ago, Alan, about how there was a time there was a part of our show where, you know, we had a moment where we'd say, you know, this scene doesn't really fit in this movie. Well, Wayne's World, as much as I love it, is a series of scenes that don't really go together well at all. They go together well and that they're funny and the same characters are sharing an episode of SNL. Yeah, like how they have three endings. Yeah, right. The three endings thing. Apparently that was like, I don't know if it was Lauren Michaels, of course, Lauren Michaels, executive producer on the film. That's also another reason you know it's an SNL film, by the way. That has to be a thing too. But I think he was fine with it because he's one of those guys that anybody that was on his show under his production, he knew how funny they were and that they could do a film that would be successful. So I don't think he had an issue with the three endings. But the three endings, there is like no genuine ending. Like the one that you like, he's like, Cassandra, quick kiss and all right, we did it. And that, by the way, is one of the things they did do in the sketch. Because otherwise, this opens up the world of Wayne's world, beyond like the public access show and they're just in, you know, in their walking life. But they do kind of connect back to the sketch. I'm trying to remember where that's from. If it's like from mod squad or what? That melody. 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So go to MTGampod.com where all our episodes stream and click the merch link on the top or the bottom of the page to view and select from our MTGamp productions storefront at tpublic. Make one of our designs a conversation stimulator. Swing. Okay, this movie had some taglines to Alan only to this week. Bring it. All right. The first one goes like this tagline number one for Wayne's world. You'll laugh. You'll cry. You'll hurl. I mean, I'll allow it. It works for the movie. I did not cry. Well, if you blow chunks, I might catch a whiff and then I might blow chunks. Okay, tagline number two, one world, one party. Okay, that one's fine. I guess it doesn't really reference the movie for me. That would score is pretty low on the stroke ability scale. Yeah, I'm glad that they didn't give us three more shitty ones. Now this film was shot mostly in LA with necessary exterior establishing shots in and around the Chicago area, but it is sets in LA and streets and everything, but they, you know, and if you have been to both places, you probably would be able to tell by watching Wayne's world still doesn't. It's cool to me. And it was shot from August to September 1991. This is a 30, I think a 34 day shoot. This is quick. So if they're goofing around with this movie, as they probably were, because it's a comedy. And you got Dana Carvey and Mike Myers as stars, they are going to Farley and Chris Farley. Let's not forget the security guard with a lot of information that was willing to volunteer it. What would we have done with all that extraneous information? Also, I think maybe Chris Farley's first time on camera, but in a film anyway, because of course he was currently on the show as well. So 34 day shoot 1991 August to September. This film cost $20 million. I'm not surprised. Wow. The film we talked about last week was 15 million shot in 2007. And that movie has got some shit being blown up in it. Yes, it does. This is 1991. So okay. And I guess I can kind of see it. I don't care, but it's like, well, a little bit higher than I thought. So at theaters, Wayne's world being a $20 million movie to make, scored $183 million worldwide. Also not surprised. Big, big friggin hit. Was it a summer movie, does it say? Oh, I should point that out. And this was earlier than I thought. February 14th, 1992, maybe a date movie. So romantic. Right. I would see this on a date. I mean, yeah, you know what? This is pretty safe on a date, I think. Yeah. Yeah, you're going to be taking the girl that's wearing like, you know, the Pearl Jam t-shirt and the jeans to see Wayne's world. Sorry, that's my early 90s fantasy. But anyway, so a super success. And then people loved it. And this got, you know, critical acclaim from Cisco and Ebert. Indeed. Well, my friends, is there anything else you'd like to add to Wayne's world? Not I. I don't think so. And monkeys might fly out of my butt. That was episode 346 of more than just a movie. I'm Austin Gates. I'm Michelle Wettstone. And I'm Alan Wettstone. Excellent. Party on. [Music] [Music] [Music] [BLANK_AUDIO]