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We got another installment of hard knock yesterday on HBO Max and we really got a chance to look at some insight on the bears on the field and behind the scenes. - We did, I thought it was an excellent episode. It was the best of the three we have seen so far. And while the gentleman, not named Jay Moore on the other side of the gla- - It was okay, heavy bass suck. - That's his life. I chose to sit there, have a little something to eat, pour myself a little bit of bourbon and sit back and go, there's my favorite football team right there. That's my quarterback, that's Kayla Williams. That's my rookie receiver right there. That's Roman Dunezay. There was so many cool moments. So many cool moments when I watched that show, hoodie, and you and I growing up in this town, cheering for this team, seeing the highs and the very, very lows, that's our football team there. And when Ryan Paul sat at his desk, it said, "Man, I really like this team. I just like the way we're coming together. I loved it, I absolutely loved it." Or you can sit on the other side of the gla- - Good, everybody sucks, showing that good. - I choose to live a life of positivity, take that. - Well, when it comes to this cap, the one, and let's rewind, even before we got to hard knocks, you and I were on the same page by talking to Ryan Pauls, seeing what the Bears are doing on a daily basis, on a yearly basis, and we said to ourselves, "Self's, the Chicago Bears look like a solid operation, running it like not just like a business, but like a football operation." We've seen the Bears run like an organization that's about trying to increase sales and multiple revenue streams, and from a business side, but from a football side cap. What we're seeing here on hard knocks, and over the last few years is a Chicago Bears front office that is just doing what it can to be able to win. And what I saw yesterday was a glimpse into the Matthew Judon sweepstakes. So Pauls and his staff, they see what you see, and I see in the rest of the Bears' fancy, is that if there's an upgrade that's possible, the Bears will pick up the phone. Now, Judon chose to go to the Atlanta Falcons, it's from the South, Atlanta and Chicago are two teams that's on the rise. But here's the thing, you like the idea that we got a chance to see it. Just a little glimpse on this episode yesterday of Pauls and his staff saying, "What can we do to get Judon here?" - Yeah, that was super cool, where he really gave you some insight, you learned something. I don't think past Bears' regimes would ever, ever be that honest. I can guarantee you Ryan Pace wouldn't. - Yep. - And there's no shot Ryan Pace was sitting there and talking about, we'll give up a three, but we gotta have a contract. Like, that was almost like a memo to Joe Douglas, the GM of the Jets. - Okay. - Like, you're gonna trade for Hassan Retik and you're not gonna have a contract that if we don't agree to a deal, I'll get my second round pick bag or my third, whatever it was that they gave up. Okay, so he hasn't been in their building since April the 1st, Ryan Pulse says, "Hey, the deal's contingent on getting a contract done." And he wants to go to Atlanta, 32, coming up a bicep, have at it. 'Cause we got something cooking down here, something special. He's from the South, it all makes sense. No shade thrown at Matthew Jewdown and all he's had a really good career, but guess what? I like looking, Waddle said this on the Dr. Pepper comment post game show last night and I thought it was absolutely spot on. For the very first time, I'm looking at the Bears, whether it's on Hard Knocks, whether it's on an interview with us, whether it's on an interview on TV, whether it's on an interview somewhere else in the booth during a pre-season game. And I look and go, my team's being run competently. Do you know what I mean? - Sure. - Like when Theo came, I went, okay, blank's about to get real here. And you were the first one that said to all of us, "You're winning the World Series." You got that dude, you're winning the World Series. And I don't feel that way about the Bulls front office, didn't feel that way about the previous iteration after a while of the Bulls front office. I can't tell you anything about Kyle Davidson, seems like a good guy, but he hadn't proven anything. The other regime that won, they're gone for a multitude of reasons. I never felt that way about Rick and Kenny that we got the best front office in Chicago. No, a jet hasn't earned that yet. 100% hasn't earned it. But this dude, and the way that it runs, and the way that things look like they're being managed from Kevin, to Ryan, to, I'll tell you, Eberfluce comes off really, really good in episode number three. Like all of that together, I feel better about my football team than I have since coach, Dica. - It's the hard not, the hard not life powered by the ComEd Energy Efficiency Program, partnering with your business to save money and energy, and also our friends at Dr. Pepper. As we talk about the hard knocks show, if you got a chance to watch the show yesterday, Cap and I will take your phone calls at 312-332-3776, that's our telephone number. There's a number of things that I see with Ryan Polls and his staff, Cap, in which he's on the phone, and kind of overseeing this team, trying to figure out, okay, we feel like we're good here, but we can always make upgrades. And that's the thing I take sauce in. There have been so many years, Cap, where you could watch a regime and a general manager would just lie to you, or lie to the fan base. That it's not about me, it's about the fans, saying that we're fine, knowing that you're not fine. And I still think even this morning, I think that Ryan Polls is rabbit about trying to figure out, are we good, or could we add something else? So I like that because he knows that he doesn't have the finished product. No matter how many predictions we throw on this show and talk about where the bears are gonna be, this upcoming season, all that, Polls knows that we're good, but we gotta do what we can to cement an opportunity for us to get to the playoffs. - And there's no reason, again, health is a big thing in the national football. There's no reason this team's not a playoff team. If they get blessed with reasonable health, no one's gonna go through the season with every guy playing all 17 games. That's just not reality in a violent sport like that. But there's no reason that if they get blessed by the football gods with reasonable health, that that is not a playoff team. They look like they wanna play for this coach and he looks like he is a different person. He's got a roster full of talented dudes, the GMs on top of everything. You've got an elite player at quarterback, albeit a rookie, and there's veteran leadership in that room from Mercedes-Louis, to DJ Moore, to Tremaine Edmonds. I mean, Kevin Bayard. There's some really good leaders in there. - So Caleb Williams, obviously, is the tip of the spear when we talk about the Bears because not just here, but everywhere. People are wondering about Caleb Williams and what he's gonna be like in his first year as a Bears quarterback. Well, you got some insight on what's going through in his veins before games on hard knocks last night on HBO. - Well, you are nervous level. There's anything against July, still a one to 10. - Zero, I don't get nervous. Not since my first game of high school versus Gilman. I fumbled two snaps. Other than that, and I came back and threw like an out and up down the sideline. Other than that, high ball. - Since he doesn't get nervous before games, well, I'm always been of the opinion cap that you never let him see you sweat to be stone face. You might have condors, not like nervous stomach, but condors in your stomach, but you never let him see you sweat. And for Caleb Williams, as he was on this, before the game this past Saturday, he's like, I don't get nervous before games. - Yeah, that was cool to see, just to see his confidence level. And, you know, they tried to make, and some of the guys last night on the post game of hard knocks that we did on our YouTube page on ESPN Chicago, they tried to make it, they didn't say it, but they intimated because the communication and his headset wasn't working and they had to change helmets. They tried to make it seem like that's why the first three or four drives struggled. Did you get that? - Yes. - Yeah, when he said, okay, I've lowered this one, I fix this, here you go, and he puts another one on, and then leave Schreiber says, now the communication thing fixed, Caleb and the offense are ready to roll. And it was like, well, that isn't exactly how I took it. He missed a couple throws, he got pressured on one. - Yeah, no, it wasn't just that the headset in his helmet wasn't working. - I'll say this though, about that part of it. It pissed me off. It pissed me off because this is something that's been a problem that's told your field time, you know, time and time again, now in every quarterback, but the communication for the helmet to the sideline, I don't know if it's because the wifi or whatever, but I do not want that happening again to Caleb Williams. I do not. - But it's going to, because it happens in other stadiums. - I understand that. I don't want it to happen to him though, because he needs to be able to communicate. It's garbled in his headphones. We can see that on the broadcast. I'd rather for that not to happen to him. And I know-- - Oh, great. - And so because that's not necessarily the reason why it was three and outs, but I mean, if you had an excuse that a reason, that could be because he's still learning the playbook. I didn't, I want that to be nice and clear for him so he can hear what the hell's going on. No question, but it's going to happen. I'm fine, I'm good. It's going to happen. - Oh, God. - It is. That is just reality. Tech is not gonna work a thousand percent of the time. It's just not. I just didn't think that was the only reason that the Bears offense struggled the first three or four possessions. I also loved the confidence he showed when he came to the sideline after the Roma Dunes A catch, that ridiculous off-platform throw. And he turned to the referee and he goes, that's pretty sweet, huh, ref? - A lot of like, he didn't say it in an arrogant way. It was just like, that's pretty sweet, huh? That was super cool, man. - I like-- - Super cool. - I like that there is a feeling of fun that he's having right now. And you just hope that that fun permeates throughout the team and that the team can ride on his back as a rookie quarterback for this football team. So if you're on hold, you will be on the air. We're gonna get your thoughts at 3-1-2-3-3-2 ESPN. 3-3-2-3-7-7-6 is our phone number. Hard Knocks taking place on HBO yesterday. We got a chance to watch you. We wanna get your thoughts on it. There's something that Matt Eberfluze was talking about at Hard Knocks as well that we'll get to as well. But we're talking about Hard Knocks and the Chicago Bears. On the whole of the Bears, cap and J-hood. This is Cap and J-hood. They've beaten the traffic commute, so you don't have to. [Music] It's a Waddle Wednesday on the Cap and J-hood Morning Show on ESPN 1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. Here's hoping that you're going to have a great Wednesday, 3-1-2-3-3-2 ESPN, 3-3-2-3-7-7-6 is our phone number. Cap and I are talking to you about hard knocks if you've got a chance to watch it. Again, if you're a Bears fan, it's for you because you've got all your favorites on there. You get a chance to see behind the scenes. If you've never been to practice, you get a chance to see the practice field. So, Cap, once again, rated G, a door that Explorer followed by hard knock Chicago Bears. It's what we've seen over the last few weeks. You're just going to see the Chicago Bears the way the Bears want you to see them portrayed. You're not going to get the blood and guts and the naughty talk, the salty language. You're just going to get the Bears having fun and working hard. Yeah, I was on social last night during hard knocks and I saw the tweet from my friend Adam Hogue and Adam Hogue said a quote from the director of hard knocks, Shannon, and she said out of respect for the McCasky family, they have, indeed, edited out the profanity. It's not as though the Bears have a monastery that they're running up in Lake Forest and that they are all good guy. Golly, G, I missed that receipt. No, that's not how it is because you and I are on the sideline. We're down there. Oh, yeah. And you hear, just like in every other NFL training camp, you hear the salty language and the guys going at it. What I really, really liked, like I've told you, players keep telling us and I say it every day to you, players believe we are so misinformed about Matt Eberfluze. And Peggy said last night on the post game show. She's like, it's amazing how the perspective that the fans and the media have about Eberfluze is so diametrically opposed to the perspective that current former players have for Matt Eberfluze. Like, you guys are ridiculous because you have no idea. He is not the way you guys think he is because he's not good at the podium and he's gotten so much more comfortable and so much better. And the appearance is so much better that we have this perspective. If you're upgrading the quarterback in the receiver room and the this and the that, why don't you upgrade head coach? These guys, and I told you this, current players are to upgrade. We got the guy. We love playing for this dude. And when he stood up in that room that you and I have been in at Hallisall and he said, if anybody fights in here, you're gone. I will send you back here. You can condition with the people that can't practice. I'm not messing around. It will not happen. Period. Like, it was, come on guys, don't fight. There was none of that. That dude's in charge out there. And I hope he wins because he's got a win to keep his gig and he understands that. He's paid a lot of money. He's a professional football coach. He gets the drill. But I'll tell you what. That dude has impressed me this offseason, how he's handled things, and hard knocks has solidified that. That's great. A lot of that I don't agree with because I only look at the one that wins in the losses. Along with the struggling came the struggling head coach too. As if I could say that the Chicago Bears as they were trying to build this thing up and going through their doldrums and going through their struggles, so did Iberfluce. I'm not going to turn a blind eye to the last couple of years because now he's got a beard and a mustache. Just like Caleb Williams, just like the Chicago Bears, he has something to prove. And so that's the whole point is if I don't care about bedside manner, I'm a fan. What I look at is whether or not Matt Iberfluce, the head coach and the football team all rising at the same time, that's what it comes down to. So no matter what the fan see cap, no matter how they feel about Iberfluce, they haven't been right to feel that way. You know why? Because it's been a slog the last couple of years. And along with that slog, Iberfluce has made his share of mistakes. We've documented it on the show. So the hope is, is that in this year that you can turn the page and that the team and the head coach is better. That's only fair. Along with the losing came the losing from Iberfluce as well. I don't disagree with you, but I think it's important that people listen to what the players in that locker room are saying about their head coach. They believe, and this is a quote from a current player, it would be a catastrophic mistake to change head coaches. He didn't say, okay, he said, quote, catastrophic mistake if you guys change head coaches. That's how good and how important this dude is. In the room. And you know, I'm a writer died with Ryan Paul's guy. He, that guy's awesome. Love Ryan Paul's. He has the same record as Matt Iberfluce too. He does. So he, Matt had no chance two years ago, none zero. There isn't a coach alive that would have won with that football team. Last year till they got Montez sweat, the thing was not in a great place. Montez had a huge impact on what that defense was the last third of the season, 100%. They're trending in a very positive direction. And so while his record is what it is, and he has to wear that record. So does everyone else that was there during this regime, they all had the same record. But when I hear players tell me catastrophic mistake, if we change head coaches, okay, now you got to go win. All I, all I care about is whether or not the team can be able to get better man. And no matter what the player, here's the thing, similar to Justin Fields in the conversation we had just by Justin Fields, in which fans said, and some players said, no, we shouldn't trade Justin Fields because we like him because he's a good guy and he's good in the room and blah, blah, blah. You know what happens on National Football League? Things change. Yeah. That's the idea that the Bears can't exist as a franchise and can't get the ball down and field out Justin Fields is nonsense because time moves on, the NFL moves on, and the same thing you met, he reflues. It would not be a, it would not be catastrophic. That's nonsense. It is because if there was a player said that's not me, that's a player. And I'm giving you my perspective. That's what I'm doing. My perspective is is that if they made a head coaching change this off season and it was a significant upgrade of Madi reflues, would the players do revolt? No, they play obviously. Obviously. Well, that's the point. Obviously. That's the point. But when you've got a guy who hasn't really had a fair shot to win, he has not. By any stretch, his roster has not been competitive. They've been in a rebuild, massive rebuild. Now if you tell me they go out and win four ball games this year, yeah, he's gone. He's going to get fired and he understands that. I don't think they're going to win four ball games. But if they don't take a step and you don't see a competent offense where you go, we got our guy and we got a bad break there with that injury. If they play the way they're capable of playing, he's going to be around a long time and he's going to have the last laugh. That's fine. But here's the thing. If that's going to be the case, you make sure that we give the flowers to Ryan Polls in that regard because he's setting this up as he says the right way. I've just never been just this over the top about a head coach, especially when it's a head coach that has a losing record. That's like the organization had a losing record along with some of the mistakes that he made as a coach. See, it's one thing to say we're tanking, but as a head coach, as far as his time management and the things that he was doing, it was not good. Don't disagree. All I'm saying is, is that as the Bears rise in which we believe that they will rise, hopefully Uberfluze can be able to rise as well as a head coach. Yeah. And I think he is taking a lot of steps. All I'm telling you is hard knocks has been very good for Matt Eberfluze. He looks very much in control and what I really liked, and again, we talked about this on the Dr. Pepper Hardknocks post game show powered by Conrad. When you see him sitting in the office with Caleb, or he's on the field, tell me what you saw. What was the defense aligned as before the snap of the ball? Well, I saw man to man, and then I saw this, and then I saw that, and then when they snap the ball, here's what I saw. Like Eberfluze is, it's always been, well, he's a defensive coach or Sean McDermott's a defensive coach in Buffalo, and the offensive staff develops the quarterback. Not so much here. This guy's involved. When he has them in his office, and they're going through different plays where Caleb's looking at the big screen and Eberfluze is controlling it on his computer. It's super cool to watch how they're trying to work through him learning the system. 3 1 2 3 3 2 ESPN 3 3 2 3 7 7 6 is our phone numbers. We talked to you about hard knocks on taking place on HBO Max yesterday. In local square, here's Terrell. He's with us here on cap and Jada as we talk bears, Terrell. Good morning. Hey, what's up guys, I just talked to you again, hope you guys are having a good morning. Yeah, I just wanted to say, I think I'd like to see Caleb and Flooze grow together, you know, all be it if he keeps winning, Flooze will be there, but I like their vibes together. It seems like, you know, they're really working well together. Also, Cap, I do want to, I've been seeing that last episode on the pod's eyes for my week one take the first episode with a QB2 competition. Yeah, there isn't one. I think I'll get a little, get a little spicy there, but it's definitely Beijing show. But yeah, I thought I got you guys man, but I'll go and know what you guys think about that. See, we appreciate the telephone call. I'm glad that they were able to kind of get into the Tyson Beijing story to talk about his dad, who was just a world class arm wrestler. And just the idea that Beijing, here's what you like, Cap. He's not wide-eyed and just like, I can't believe that I'm in the National Football League. Since he came to Chicago, based on what he says, there's confidence there, there's a level of confidence that says, yeah, I could start, but you know what, in my role, I'm going to be the best that I can be. And when I was telling you about the preseason so far is that the operation does not drop off when Caleb sits on the bench, you know, I like that. And the other thing that was super cool, and it goes back to some of the discussion we had with Che yesterday, this dude played four complete college years where he took a billion snaps. Like he was a developed quarterback who knew how to look at a defense. His passing numbers were, again, at Shepard, I get it, but they were, he understood how to run an offense. And when he sat in the room and there's Caleb and he, just the two of them in the quarterback room, and he says to Tyson, how you doing? I'm good. He said, man, year two, it's so much easier because he's been through everything. I was like, man, I wish we could get Caleb to year two. Yeah, I really like what I've been seeing there with, with Beijing and the dynamic of Beijing and Williams together as well. And it seems to work when they're together in the meeting room or on the sideline. That's really cool. I like that. Super cool. Super cool. I feel better about the direction of my favorite football team than I have in decades, like when the coach was here and they had all the talent and they're destroying Green Bay throughout the 80s. That was awesome. Yeah, it was. That was awesome, man. And for, you know, the younger generation who wasn't around for that, they have no idea the city like we knew every Sunday we were going to win. It was like a devastating thing when they lost and then to go through the wilderness for 30 years to be that poorly run and then to have a man come in and George gets the credit he does for getting Ryan polls and getting out of his way because I was told when they had their interview and you've referenced this. Paul said, I'm tearing it apart. It's flawed. It's fatally flawed. We're going to move Khalil Mack. We're not re-signing Row Clon Smith. We're doing this. We're doing that and it's going to be painful. It's going to be ugly, but I'll build you something on the other side and it's come quicker than I think even he thought. 3 1 2 3 3 2 ESPN 3 3 2 3 7 7 6 is our phone number. Nighty reflues the head coach for the Bears has news about the Bears in a match up against Kansas City. You'll hear that next on the home of the Bears ESPN 1000. Checkmate 1 6 lany of suppression on target. That's why I see him in my shot shot or no shot with Captain Jehud on ESPN 1000 and ESPN Chicago. That's why I see him in my shot. Good morning and welcome in to the Captain Jehud Morning Show on ESPN 1000. And we're streaming on the ESPN Chicago app with David Kaplan and Jonathan Hood with you. Now time for shot or no shot. Here's Shay Norling. Shay. Good morning, boys. On a Wednesday, what a Wednesday. How are we feeling? We're feeling good, man. One of my favorite Cubs from the 2016 team back in town and while he's struggling wearing that ugly tiger uniform, I stood up in my family room and I gave him a standing ovation when they introduced him and played that cool tribute video. Way to go, hobby. Would you like to respond? Because we got, we had some point we got to move on through the show. So would you like to respond to this? I booed him and that's all I'll say. I'll leave it at that. Okay. So what happened on the, uh, on X on Twitter is Tyler Aki and you, Shay Norling, we're at Wrigley Field to see the Tigers against the Cubs. And of course, the handy phone of Tyler, boom, right there, showing you flipping off a hobby bias and booing him. Was there anyone else at Wrigley Field booing him that you knew of, Shay? Not that I noticed, uh, not even a Tigers fans. I think there was a sarcastic applause when he got a put out in the first inning. But I'll really, yeah, that it's okay. It is what it is, man. He's though he's the worst free agent signing in the history of the franchise that I grew up with. It's like it is what it is. He's a villain in my story. We'll pick him up. DFA and we'll pick him up. Good. He's slugging like 260 enjoy. You know what would be great, hoodie? If he got DFA and the Cubs picked him up and he came and all start again, that would be the greatest dude, I'd be super happy for you. I'd also be happy. He's not on that team anymore. Both things would be true. I think that both things, both things are true in this situation. I have nothing against the Cubs. I have nothing against you, Cap is a fan. Really, I have nothing personally against Harvey Baez. He has just been horrible. There's no way around it. He's been basically the worst position player in all of baseball for three seasons. That I don't disagree with. There's no doubt about that. But again, both things can be true. Harvey Baez is awful at baseball. He does not have it anymore as far as being. He can identify the inside pitch, the outside pitch over the middle. It's been bad. He is up there like a blind man right now, offensively. There was a time in his prime with the Cubs that he was must see. He was solved defensively and gave you the key hits he needed. But the drop office is a real thing. Matter of fact, because there is something odd to me, like Chris Bryant just hasn't played at all. So that's kind of a different thing. Rizzo's been okay, Schwerber's been awesome. Baez has been pound for pound, the worst position player in baseball since he left. But shot or no shot, he is still the most beloved cub from that team. The way these people embraced him yesterday, I was like, wow, well, just wait till the Yankees get here in September when Rizzo's back is he's been hurt with a broken, I think a broken arm. If he gets introduced, look out, they'll bring the roof down. Yeah, I would say that's a no shot. I think it's, I think Rizzo's one is number one, no doubt. Who had the baseball last when the Co's won the World Series? Was it in his pocket? Yep. It gave it to Tom Ricketts. Yep. It's him. It's him. He did a conerco. Is Baez too? Are they both more beloved than Schwerber? Is what? Are they both more beloved than Schwerber? Rizzo Baez? Yeah, I was. Boy, if I had, that's a great question. If I had to rank them, who'd he tell me if I'm wrong? I would go Rizzo's one. Yep. Schwerber. John Lester might be number two. Schwerber three. Baez three, Schwerber four, and KB five. I think that's fair. And KB might move up a little bit in there. He was the MVP for crying out loud. I think Sylvia would probably push Kyle Schwerber up a little higher, maybe two in that spot. There's no way get Schwerber from that team is more beloved than some of the other guys. He's in that top upper echelon five guys that you could move around. No doubt. As a as a beer league softball player, not bad for the Cubs. That is for sure. Nobody ever said that about it. Here's Shay Norley. All right. Hard Doc showed us Caleb was having some communication problems with Shane Waldron for the first few drives against the Bengals. His headset kept cutting out. He was saying he couldn't hear the play call. He's just trying to piece it together, getting it out of the huddle, get everybody set up. It looked like the process was pretty bad. The three and outs after getting on the sideline, making sure everybody knows the helmets cutting out. It's not the volume. I can't hear him. They got him a new helmet, got the volume where he wanted it. Caleb led two scoring drives shot or no shot. The headset was the reason for the three and outs. No shot. He had a couple terrible throws. He did. That's a shot. He was rattled. It may have contributed, but guess what, find a way to play through it. Sid Lockman didn't have a headset communication. He delivered the football. He didn't have that for Rex Grossman. There was no communication system. How cold was the water in the locker room in the Luckman administration? What do you recall? It was chilly. I would ask since you brought him up, I would say that that's a shot, Shay, and watching that and knowing he was the headset, it pissed me off. It's a lot of stuff I was in my household yesterday watching that. I had to pause it for a second and explain to Peacock like, hey, this has been a problem. He's a rookie. He's still trying to get the verbiage. He's just trying to get it down. He might hurt some of it, but he needs all of it. And so that was just kind of throwing him in the middle of the ocean without a paddle. It's like, what? What is it now? And so I think that that was, I can't, I think you're right. But I also believe that him not being able to get the full play in, I think that rattled him a little. But you know what? Honey, there's going to be a moment. It might be December, January. It's freezing cold in Chicago in the community or in Green Bay and the communication system went out. And guess what? Figure it out. Read the defense, call the play, make a check at the line of scrimmage and guess what? Figure it out and make a play. Shower, no shot, have some backup placards just in case. Yes, sorry. Fred Flintstone, Dora the Explorer. Right. Yeah. Just HBO max sign or just like run up like you're playing two hand touch, draw the play on the football. Just whatever it takes. Oh, loom, you're going to go up here about five yards cut out. All right. Keena. He can be like, you know, like Aaron Rodgers is ignored to play all together, whatever he's been called in like a few. All right. We're not doing that. That's, that's been a case too because I, I mean, but as you get more and more comfortable cap, like you said, like in December, the hope is it's like he's got it down. Like I can't hear what he's saying, but I think in this situation, we should do this. They're not going to yell at them. Yeah. You know, all right. All right, Shay. All right. Caleb also joined part in my take. He was asked by PFT if he would sacrifice something for 10 Super Bowls. Listen, if there was a button, if you had a button and if you pushed it, one bears fan would die, but you would win 10 Super Bowls. You can kill me. Do you press the button, 10 Super Bowls, 10 Super Bowls, I feel like most bears fans would be like, I'll, I'll throw a button for you and they sacrifice. Yeah. Wow. That's love. It is love. So do you press the button? I like that. Boy, you can tell he was thinking, yes, I mean that you look, that's killer instinct. That's what I want out of my quarterback at all costs. Big cat willing to lay his life on the line in the interview. I'd give it up for 10 Super Bowls shot or no shot. You would give your life for Caleb Williams and the bears to win 10 Super Bowls. No shot. The damn no shot, but, but, but Cap, there's nothing like watching these shows of the loved one like, like my wife as we're watching this and she, and she says, as that question is being asked, she says, don't answer that. She says it out loud. Don't answer that. I'm like, even she was uncomfortable with the question. Yeah. That's a no shot. All of my favorite football team, and if you had said that about the 108 year hiatus, the Cubs took between championships, the answer still would have been no shot. She's like, don't answer that. I was like, I don't think, I don't think he is. He's like, I hope he doesn't answer that. No. If I could pick the fan, that's a different step. What are you talking about? Have anybody in mind, Cap? Couple. What are you going to kill off for a bear's 10 Super Bowls, Kathy? Damn. That's a personal question, but yeah, there's a few out there. Wow. And that's something. He calls me a bad guy. I am not. Well, there's a very dark side to David Kaplan that right between the eyes. Bam. Yeah. 10 Super Bowls in coming. Yeah. See, there's a very dark side that people don't know. I've been privy to it. I know it's very dark. He's got a lot of strange thoughts going in through that cranium of the founder misinformation. This guy here. It's amazing. That's it. Here's J. Norlin. Also, Caleb didn't answer the question, but shot or no shot. He was, he was going to answer. Yes. He was thinking about it. He answered it. He said, give me the button. You just kept saying, I think, big cat said, I'll push the button for you. Yes. But he didn't say, give it a definitive answer. I think, I think for Jimmy McCasky, you want to see the answer to that question. Correct. Those are our fans. You can't do that. Here's J. Norlin. Manta Swett admitted fifth round rookie Austin Booker as impressed at camp says he's quote, light years ahead of where a rookie should be adding. He's already adding new moves to his pass rush arsenal, learning how different players will block him, adjusting to it. All the things you'd expect out of a veteran less so out of a fifth round rookie. I ask again, as the Austin Booker stock just keeps rising, like hard knocks last night, polls in his feelings about not getting jude on and not being able to give up a third to get that done and then being reminded, hey, you traded a fourth for Austin Booker and the smile that went across Ryan Paul's face. Shot or no shot, Austin Booker is making a case to start. Yeah, I don't think he's making a case to start. He's making a case to be a significant part of a rotation there. I think Demarcus Walker will get to start at the other edge. I don't feel like, oh my God, we have to give $8 million or whatever the number is to Janik in Gakwe. Let's see if the kid is that good, let him be part of that rotation and let's go. What I find interesting is Manta Swett's involvement, not just with Austin Booker because when we were there, I saw him standing, talking and pointing at things. They weren't going, you want to go get lunch. It was different things on the field and then I read that he took Darnell right off to the side and he's like, let me show you something with your arm. You need to do this more, less and they talked about how he's spending a lot of time with offensive lineman, trying to teach them things that work against him. I thought that was super cool. I thought so as well. I like the information about Austin Booker, what the Bears had to go through to get Austin Booker on the team and just watching him being isolated and featured on the show, I think the Bears think very highly of him. As a starter, I would say that's a no shot for now, Shay, but definitely a rotation guy that the Bears think very highly of. The other thing that was cool was hoodie when they took you behind the scenes back to draft day on day three and you see like six or seven different Bears front office guys on the phone with different teams and then Jeff King, who's been around there a long time, previous administrations as well, turning goes, we're good and then they make the trade. If I give you a future fourth where you let us trade back in if our guys are, yes, we're good. That was awesome. Yeah, it's good to see. It's good to know, again, the Bears are able to identify a great talent and Austin Booker and as even Ryan Pulsa, I mean, keep my eyes on this guy, I'm so glad he's a bear. So it is a no shot for now. Can you squeeze in one more because we got around the NFL coming up? Yeah, very quickly, Oklahoma State revealed yesterday, they're going to be adding QR codes to their helmets. Cowboys helmets, I have a big fat QR code right in the middle on the back that will link directly to the NIL general fund so that fans can easily donate money to the players. No shot, this is gross, this is college football just going too far. No shot, it's brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Some guy makes a big run, gets a touchdown and you're like, we just beat Oklahoma, give me that QR code honey, I'm putting 50 bucks in there. Yeah, I love it, brilliant. You know, this, this whole thing with my Gundy and I'm wondering, Shay, now that Harbaugh's to the NFL and Saban is doing television, who's going to be the polarizing coach, this is going to be the most quotable coach, I think it's already my Gundy. And here's a guy here that's not going to be in the mix for the national championship and all that. Boy, he's doing a lot of chirping. Same guy that just told everybody, hey players, stop asking for more money, stop asking for more money. You see that piece cap? This was a couple of days ago, Mike Gundy, the head coach for Oklahoma State says, hey, stop asking for more money. The portal's over and now we're playing football. The good news is the next five months, we just play football and not worry about the business side. And then you're in it now. This is the college football. This is what you have to deal with, the business side of it. So this is why he's got the QR code because he doesn't want to deal with the next five months, but you got to keep dealing with it. You are a general manager. You are not the head coach. You are the wheeler and dealer, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Too bad. You have the stomach for it. You can leave. Yeah, I also don't think he had anything to do with the QR code. That's way above his pay grade. That is the marketing and the AD. How are we going to raise more money? What about a QR code? I mean, you've already got Ollie Gordon on the team making millions and driving sports cars. Well, drunk. I do think this is a little bit of a bad look. I actually kind of agree with what Mike Gundy said to the players. The absurdity that training camp is happening, the portals closed. You cannot move teams anymore. And you're, you still have agents calling your head coach saying, can we get more money? What are we doing? Well, this a college football, this, like you're in camp. You can't move. The portals shut. I understand. Why are you asking for more? Let's play ball novel concept. Your head coach is one nine and a half games a year in his career. Little idea, hit the field and produce, you'll make money and you'll get to go to whatever school you want. Enjoy the idea. You're doing it in August. What are we talking about? This is what it is though, Shay. You and I may not like it, but this is the, this is the price of poker now on college football. This is what it is where you're still trying to negotiate money for players and we're on the precipice of the season. We're right here at week zero and there's still the opportunity for players to try to make more money. Right? Whether we like it or not, this is what it is. Until college football changes it, this is where we are in college football. This is it. How much money can I make? Not the scholarship, not the graduation, just how much money can I make now? And how can I get a fast track to the National Football League without a real czar and with someone without teeth in college football, it'll continue to be this way. It's just, it's just the way it is. You're correct. Got to fix that. It's fixing. It is fixing. Like college basketball and college football, until someone can say, "Enough of this. This is what it's going to be." So my Gundy has to take it. But it goes back to what Nick Saban said that his wife said to him when he decided to step down. There's no talk anymore about, "Will your coach Saban develop my son? Will he help him for his future? It's all about how much money can I get?" Yeah. That's what it can do. That's what it is. And it's sad and pathetic, but it is what it is. You're right. We will go around the NFL and that's next on a Waddle Wednesday on Cap & Jhood. Follow Chicago's Home for Sports on Twitter at ESPN1000. Cap & Jhood are back on ESPN Chicago, Chicago's Home for Sports. Nick Bolz sucks. He sucks. I'm just a fan. I'm not a football evaluator. I love the Green Bay Packers. I love the guys front, but there he goes. This is not Detroit, man. This is the Super Bowl. I love winners. He starts to come at any moment. This is a really thickly built guy. I mean, what's the answer you're looking for on these things here? It's time to go around the NFL, right here on a Waddle Wednesday on Cap & Jhood on a ESPN 1000 here from Tommy coming up. But first around the NFL, here's Shane Orling. All right, yesterday we got into a very heated debate about what Tom Brady said. Quarterbacks now are forced to start right out of the gate, the rookies. It's a tragedy that you don't have a chance to develop, learn the offense. Let our guy Evan Cohen on on Sportsman like he was filling him for Greenie yesterday to levy a take for a mandatory red shirt, fully paid year for all rookie quarterbacks mandated by the NFL. The QBs should not count towards the overall roster, should sit for the entire season or be made eligible after week nine. QB development in depth at the position would increase. That's the take from Evan Cohen on Twitter. He offered that on Greenie and again this morning on on Sportsman like I think we have completely the wrong conversation about this every time that we have it. I went through since 2000 and pulled every quarterback in the first round of the draft that I deemed to have taken a red shirt year. Now to qualify this in college you can play X number of games and still keep your red shirt. Sure. So if you started for fewer games as a rookie, I called it a red shirt season as a rookie quarterback. Typically that's like a backup guy came in because somebody got hurt or you started week 15 when your team was out of it and they just wanted to get your reps. Of course there's Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers. Here's the rest of that list. Trade Lance started week five and week 16. He's a backup in Dallas. He doesn't look very good. Now part of that injury, part of that maybe is out of his control. He's still his time. He's the most recent on this list. Let's keep going. Paxton Lynch did a red shirt year help Paxton Lynch's development. Did not. He stinks. Alright. All right, Captain Paxton Lynch improved because of a red shirt season. No. Absolutely not. How about Johnny Manziel? Did the red shirt year help Johnny Manziel out? Did his development curve upwards because he didn't play his first season? No, it did not. What about Jake Locker? Jake Locker. Yes. Nope. Tim Tebow? Red shirt year help him any. Did not. He was bad going into the NFL. Did the Red shirt season for the Red shirt season make him less of a bust? Nope. Can we discuss Brady Quinn, please? Brady Quinn. No. Network broadcaster. No. Rex Grossman. Red shirt year help him out. Make him a stud. Rex Grossman took a team to a Super Bowl. He did. Was it great? No. He did. You want to qualify Rex Grossman as a success story because he didn't play his first year because the Bears went to the Super Bowl? Fine. Mike Vick, good player. What about Chad Pennington? Red shirt year help out Chad Pennington? No. As up and down the Jets and all that, it didn't work. That's all of them. That's every first round quarterback that took a red shirt year since the year 2000. The rest start. My point remains. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Where's Patrick Mahomes? I said Mahomes, Rogers. Yeah, that was early. Rivers. All right. They start. They're great stories. Yeah. The rest didn't matter. They stunk. And everybody else just started. That was taken in the first round. But if they knew going in, they were going to be red shirted and treated as such, maybe I'm not saying it would have been any different for any of those guys. It would have been handled differently. Is that fair? I don't know. And he also did not count their money against the cap. It was off to the side. Well, that's fine. The negotiated salaries were different back then. Anyway, I just, I'm making a point. I kind of think the guys who stink stink and the guys who are good are good. Like Brady's whole idea. It sounds like Brady's living in a world where there were a million great quarterbacks back in the day who all took red shirt years and developed and had the time. That was never true. Like any year in Tom Brady's career, whether it's early or middle or late, there's no more than like 10 good quarterbacks in the league because that's just the NFL. That's the way it's always been. There's like 10 good quarterbacks, a few who you might be able to win games with and dead people. So for context, for those that missed it, Tom Brady was at the Fanatics at the Javits Center in New York City talking to Stephen A Smith about how Ricky quarterbacks are being forced in today's NFL. There used to be college programs. Now there are college teams. You're no longer learning a program, you're learning a playbook and the program is ultimately like in Michigan. For me, that was a pro style program. Five years I got to learn how to drop back past, to read defenses, to read coverages, to be coached. I had to learn from being seventh quarterback on the depth chart, to moving up to third, to ultimately being a starter. I had to learn all those things in college. That was development. Then I went to New England and I was developed by coach Belichick and the offensive staff there. I didn't start my first year. I think it's just a tragedy that we're forcing these rookies to play early, but the reality is the only reason why they are is because we dumb the game down, which has allowed them to play. It used to be thought of at a higher level. We used to spend hours and hours in the off season and training camp trying to be a little bit better than next year, but I think what happens is discourages the coaches from going to deep levels, because they realize the players don't have the opportunity to go to a deep level. They're just going to teach them where they're at. That's the one perspective from Tom Brady, but then Evan Cohen, Tommy, and Michelle Smallman on the sportsman like this morning, Evan's idea on redshirting NFL rookie quarterbacks. Think of that was Caleb Williams. What if hypothetically the NFL had a rule that all rookie quarterbacks had a forced red shirt year paid, forced red shirt year? There's two ways of looking at this in my mind, either after the whole season, you're not eligible for any game, or you're eligible after week nine, let's say, full salary. I believe if we did that, Cubes would be further developed and we'd have a deeper group of quarterbacks at that position. I just don't see that happening. Yeah, you need to give the fans something to care about. You need to give the fans that hope you're trying to put butts in seats. Can you imagine if the Chicago Bears this year said, Caleb Williams is our future and in order to protect his development, he's going to sit a year. We drafted him number one overall. I think he'd be better long term. Right. But what would Bears fans have to say about that? This is a city and an organization that has been desert thirsty for a franchise quarterback for decades. Understood. And you finally feel like you have the guy. There's all of this talent around him and even if it is the best thing for his development long term for him to sit, for him to get acclimated within the organization and the game and the scheme, they're not going to do that because that's not what the fans want. And you have Matt Ebert Flush trying to save his job. It's not an automatic Tommy that if you just sit all the rookie quarterbacks that if they just sit that with more seasoning, they could be able to be Patrick Holmes or great quarterbacks. That's not that way for everybody. That's not true. No, this is the ultimate painting with a broad brush discussion. And it just, I think it's from start to finish, it's silly. First of all, the Players Association would never be collectively bargain to go ahead with that because what is the first thing that a first round quarterback wants to do? They want to get on to the second contract because that's where they get paid. Correct. Like, you know, you don't want to stop the clock. You want to start the clock. So there's no chance that the Players Association would ever consent to that. The other thing is, and I heard you guys yelling yesterday and you guys just need to hug it out. Everything, every situation is different. Like, I know, like, the two situations, like Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes, did they benefit from sitting? Possibly. You know what else they benefited from? Being part of great organizations with great offensive coaches, if you put somebody else into that situation, it may not work if you take a player and put him into the Tampa Bay Buccaneers situation and redshirt him, who's to say that that guy is going to benefit from it? Because Andy Reed isn't coaching the box, you know? Mike Holmgren isn't coaching the box. So I just think you can cherry pick on both sides situations that work and don't work. Like Tom Brady made a lot of good points in my opinion when you can go from Oklahoma State to Georgia, to Florida State in three years as a player because of NIL, there's no question you're not getting coached. So I think it's a deep conversation. Do some guys benefit from sitting and watching? Absolutely. But CJ Stroud didn't need it, you know, found himself in a really good situation with the Texans as being coached well, and he's got tremendous talent. So I just don't, this isn't a one-size-fits-all conversation in my humble opinion. All right, more. more more with Tommy as we get ready for Waddle Wednesday on cap and J.