Kap & J. Hood

8/20 9 AM: Chris Canty

Hour 3: Super Bowl Champ and Co-Host of ESPN "UnSportsman Like" Chris Canty joined Kap- & J. Hood to discuss the new look Bears and the playoffs possibilities. Are you on the Caleb Hype Train or the Caleb Slow The Rowboat? Cubs DFA'd Reliever Hector Neris and The Kap & J. Hood Classic Cut Of The Day.

Duration:: 45m
Broadcast on:: 20 Aug 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

(upbeat music) - Good morning, Chicago. And welcome in to the Cap and J Good morning show on the ESPN 1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. With David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you. We've got Shay, we've got Jay Moore. We've got you here on this Tuesday morning. Here's hoping that you can have a great day. 3-1-2-3-3-2-3-7-7-6 is our full number. Our training camp coverage is brought to you by Hard Rock Casino, Northern Indiana. And by the way, it's not just a Tuesday Cap, it's a hard knocks Tuesday. - Can't wait, we'll have our Hard Knocks Post Game Show brought to you by the great people over at Dr. Pepper and our Comet Hard Knocks, as you said. And it's gonna be so much fun to just kick back the Cubs will be on one TV. The White Sox will be on another TV. And on the big TV, Hard Knocks Chicago Bears. - Cub? - I said the Cub, they're on a smaller monitor. - Wait a minute, White Sox will be on the Apple Watch. - Apple Watch. - Come on, Cap. - Look, the White Sox, by the end of, when Sunday concludes, will be at 100 losses. - 100. - Yes. - Yes, I understand. - Yes, I understand. Well, Shane Waldron, the offensive coordinator for the Bears, talked about Caleb Williams. And you and I are on the same page because you and I, like many, many Bears fans that we know, just wanna see the success for the Chicago Bears. Some believe that the success for the Bears will be later, rather than sooner. You and I believe that they're gonna be a playoff team. - Yes. - My perspective, Cap, as a Bears fan is, is that Caleb Williams, just like Roma Dunes A, just like any other rookie in the NFL, has to go through a learning curve. The hope is, is that that curve is not so steep, where you need two or three years to season. What I'm saying is, is that with Caleb Williams, like any other rookie quarterback, there's gonna be some growing pains. You talked to someone that was watching the film yesterday, and had a strong thought about Caleb Williams, like they even flow that game against Cincinnati. - Yeah, someone who played in the league for a very, very long time, called me, he was watching the film as we were talking. I have the NFL game pass as well. He's like, let me ask you a question. Why are you guys treating what happened against Cincinnati, like the Bears won the Super Bowl? I said, I don't know what you mean. He said, come on man. He goes, I breed, I listen, I had you and Hoodie on, and it's, we got our guy, we're in. He said, I, again, I think, this is him saying, I think he's gonna be a hell of a football player. When he's done, he will be the best quarterback in Bears history. But he said, we've seen Justin make splash he plays like you saw, that run, we've seen Justin do better. He said, the throw to Rome? Bryce Young did that last year, the exact same throw. And then you go back and look at the highlight, it is. Off a one foot, the whole deal. He said, the throw to Rome in the corner where Rome was beyond the end line, he said, awesome. We've seen Jay Cutler do that. He said, we all sat together and watched Mitch throw six touchdowns, and while you could tell me, some of those were open receivers, and an open guy. He still had to go through the read and get the football there. He said, and he still had to throw six touchdowns. Not many guys do that. He goes, I don't care how he got him there, he did. He said, so, can we just pump the brakes until he proves to us he is the guy? I said, you are missing the point, my friend. He goes, what's that? I said, you played many, many, many, many years in the league. We as Bears fans, you didn't grow up a Bears fan. You got drafted and came to Chicago. What you're missing is our judgment is colored 'cause we know how it all turned out with wrecks, with Cutler, with Mitch, with Justin. We know we failed, it did not work. We have hope with this kid and all the experts that you listen to, whether it's Tyree Kill Tweeting. Caleb Williams is so good. He reminds me of dot, dot, dot, dot. He's talking about Patrick Mahomes. When we hear him, or Ryan Clark, or Dan Orlofsky, or Chase Daniel, or Tim Jenkins, or JTO, so pick any of the guys that break down a film or watch these games. They all go, that dude is special. And then I talk to different players on the team with no microphone, no camera, and ask them, and they all go, a lot of guys, this dude's different. He's at a different level. His processing, everything, different. So it's an interesting discussion. You're more measured. You believe the Bears can be a playoff team? Yes, you love Caleb? Yes, I'm much more. Get on my hype train, I'm here, let's go. (laughing) Right? - Yeah, that's fair. All that is what we just thought laid out is that there's a train, there it is. So, Shayna Waldron, the offensive coordinator for the Bears, some of the positives he sees in Caleb Williams. - You know, what's pretty cool to watch is when the play breaks down, you know, it almost seems like it's in slow motion for him, and he can find the different rush lanes, being smart with the ball, you know, breaking contained, and creating some explosives down the field. So, for Caleb in particular, just his spatial awareness, and, you know, his ability to see the full picture knows where everyone is, and that's where I see it with him. You know, as he continues to develop, you know, really just getting a handle on the reps, and the accumulated reps of certain concepts, but as far as seeing the picture, and then, you know, to get to different windows, or different rush lanes, that he finds, you know, he's got that natural ability. I think it's a great trait that he has. Like, when we get over to the sideline, and you look at the surface, but before you even look at the surface, you know, he can already tell you, you know, the why behind each read. And I think that's, to me, that's the most important part. You know, if he's not seeing it clearly or something like that, that's where you really need to, you know, go back and go through it. But, you know, he sees it clearly and can really talk about, you know, different windows. And also from the quarterback's lens is totally different than what you see from the, you know, the stands lens, or the coach on the sideline lens, you know, that ground level where was the defender exactly at when you hit the top of your drop. And he so, you know, he easily can clearly articulate every one of those points in regards to the space, or what happened on a play. - And Shane Waldron, the OC for the Bears. - Yeah, and when you listen to him, and then you read like today in the Sun Times, there's different guys on the team talking about Caleb's processing. I've heard Mark Sadie's Lewis talk about this. Gerald Everett is quoted in the article that, Stood's just his ability to not only process and go through reads, but when he makes a mistake to come to the sideline and know, here's where I was wrong. I looked there, I should have been there. Here was this, here was that, that's on me, but I won't happen again and it doesn't. That's just growth and that's development. - Also some thoughts from Waldron as far as how it started, because there's two sides of the story cap. It's the same story, but those first few pages in that game against Cincinnati, not so good with those three and outs. - I think starting with me putting the guys in the best position to have a fast start right there. Some we talked about on offense, where obviously we're not looking to go, you know, three, three and outs to start a game out. Defense did a great job of holding strong right there and allowing us to get into a rhythm. Obviously in that fourth drive right there and then leading into the second half. So really just starting with me, putting guys in good position to start fast, play efficient football, get some more runs going there, get a little bit better balance on and we'll be better with that moving forward. - See Cap, the person you talked to the other day about the Bears, I was broke down that film. From Caleb William's standpoint, he doesn't know. Okay, he probably knows because the coaches told him, "Hey, you're taking on the twos or threes a day." But for him, he's on an NFL field and he's watching the Cincinnati defense coming after him. And so one's twos threes, he just knows he's in the NFL and he just knows that no matter what, whether it's that game or the Tennessee game coming up, hey, he's just got to continue to get better gaming and game out. You know, your friend said, well, you know, the Bears were able to succeed against twos and threes. - Well, Cap, I mean, would you rather fail against two and threes or would you rather be able to score and also get turnovers against the twos and the threes? I'll take the wins, no matter who's on the field 'cause that is a NFL team on the other side. - It is, but... - Right? I mean, these are glorified practices anyway. And if you're able to succeed in these glorified practices, cool, could you imagine if it was just all terrible on both sides of the football against Cincinnati, who had what, 20, 30 guys out? - Correct, but I think you get more, I've always been a game guy, but in looking at the joint practices and then hearing Eber Flus and then asking these couple players about the joint practice, get way more out of it, way more, there was no Joe Burrow and all these other guys in the game on Saturday, but the Thursday joint practice where we played the audio from the guy from Fox 19 in Cincinnati, who said Chicago Bears won the day. I couldn't be more impressed with Caleb Williams. Like there was a lot of good for a Chicago Bears fan. And I feel like maybe you got more out of that than what we got on Saturday when the Bengals bench their top guys. - Yeah, well, coming up when the Bears play Kansas City, I don't think that we're gonna see many ones, including Caleb Williams. I just don't cap. I just think that what we saw against the Bengals, I think that'll be all for the preseason for him. - Probably, but I'm with, it was Abdullah who first said it, now I've heard other people saying the same thing. I think it's super important for him to dress, go through the warmup, even if he took the first possession, handed it off three times to you, just to go through Saturday, the Thursday, being ready instead of getting on the plane, staying in the warmup, hanging out. I feel like don't put him in any harm's way. No passes, won't need any of that. We're good, we're ready. But just go through the routine of a short week. - All right, 3-1-2-3-3-2, ESPN, 3-3-2-3-7-7-6 is our telephone number. Mel Rose Park, here's Joey on cap in J-hood. - Joey G, good morning. - Joey G. - Joey. - Joey. - Uh-oh, somebody need to check on, I'll love one, better check on him. - All right, we lost him. - Hope he's gonna be okay, cap. - I hope so. He's our guy. - Football Fest this Sunday at Hard Rock to see on Northern Indiana. Go to Ticketmaster to secure your tickets. Again, it's one of our signature events here at ESPN Chicago. It's this Sunday, Hard Rock to see on Northern Indiana to be able to have a great time with all the hosts and a lot of the personnel here at ESPN Chicago. It's gonna be a lot of fun this upcoming Sunday. - Yeah, I can't wait, I'm really excited. I love it every year. And when we're standing up there on that stage and all the fans are into it, it's been super cool. I would think that when we stand up there this year and we look out, the fans are gonna be in a fever pitch because of what we now have in Chicago. - Northwest Indiana, here's Philip on Cap and Jhood. Philip, good morning. - Good morning fellow meatballs. - What's up, people? - What's up, people? - Good to have. So one thing that a lot of us aren't talking about and what I've been thinking about is how different this whole team is from the general manager all the way down. We go back to Phil Emery and the Nutty Professor and other equations that we're running. This just feels different. Ryan Poles knows what he's doing. Eber Flutes, he's got confidence. The defense is out of their minds. This just feels like back in the Super Bowl Bears era to what they're building. - That's a little too far. - Not really, not really. - What they started building from when Didka came aboard and they just started building the team and it was a team atmosphere. That's what this is. If you look at what Jalen Johnson took less money, you look at DJ took a little bit less money. He could have got paid a lot more money, but they didn't. They're actually building a team from the top down. - They are, but again, DJ Moore got $27.5 million, could he have gotten $28.5 and he's got uproot his family and he's got to learn a new system and it doesn't always go as what. He's in a great spot with where he's at. There's no tag days. It's not like he said, nah, give me a couple million. I'm good. I mean, Jalen Johnson got paid at the top of the market. Maybe he's not the highest paid corner, but I do agree that Poles is building something here and as players have said, the culture is different in Chicago. - Philip, your lips to God's ears at this conclusion to a Super Bowl champion and you said no one's talking about it. Cap and I have been talked about this a lot about the Chicago Bears team in that we see how methodically that the general manager Ryan Poles is building this. He says he wants to build this the right way. Again, Philip, just with perspective, even during, correct me if I'm wrong, Cap, even back in the day of Dickett to build to a championship team in '85. No one said we're going to tear this down to the studs. It was just really great luck with the draft and getting quality at the draft to be able to build yourself up to Super Bowl championship. Here, when Ryan Poles says we're going to build this thing, that means that we're going to tank ultimately. No one's ever used that phrase around the Bears because that's taboo. You would never say that. So I would just say that that's what it comes down to. As we turn now to Shay Norling with some. This is breaking news brought to you by the Advantage dealer group, Breaking News on ESPN Chicago, Chicago's home for sports. We turn to Intrepid reporter Shay Norling with Breaking News on Cap and J. Hochay. I'm wondering if Cap's going to cheer. From Jesse Rogers, Chicago Cubs news reliever, Hector Neris was DFA'd and has already cleared waivers. Sources tell ESPN he is being released. Jack Neely with the Cubs acquired in the Yankee trade from with Mark Leiter Jr. is being called up to take his place. Thank the good Lord above. Good luck. I hear you're a good guy. You stink, please pack your bags and get out of my city. Now, take that. And that'll be all for Hector Neris. That'll be all. Cap's gone. I don't know why it took to August 20th for this to happen. But again, time and time again, the Cubs kept touching that stove and that stove was hot. And that is Neris probably out of position. Being the closer, the guy is supposed to close it out. And how many times did the Cubs not get the job done in the eighth and ninth inning? We've blown, what, 22 saves? I said, we, yeah, because I'm a Cubs fan. So don't need to come at me. What position do you play? My heart's been there since the day I came out of my mom's womb. So guess what? That's my team. I think they've blown 22 saves. And they've been shot out five times since the all-star break or held the one or less runs 11 times. And the whole thing has been a collection of bad. But Hector Neris is terrible out. And if you kept him any longer, you would have to, if he hit certain parameters, Jesse laid him out yesterday, his 9 million for next year would become guaranteed. Guess what? Not happening on my watch. So the question is who closes for the Cubs now? I mean, it doesn't really matter, I guess. Jorge Lopez? You mean it doesn't matter. You think you're going to have one defined guy. Now Lopez has had the most 6S in his career doing this. He has. He did it in Baltimore very effectively. He's been very good since he got here. But you don't have some guy down there that-- remember when John Wetland retired and Mario Anor Vira, the setup guy, we're going to try him as the closer. And he became the greatest closer maybe of all time. We don't have that guy here, not yet. So I'm good that Narris is gone. Try who you want, probably Jorge Lopez or Porter Hodge or Tyson Miller. Let them get the experience in leveraged situations where you're on the fringes, the outer fringes of the wildcard race. But just, Narris is 9 million gone. Thank you. See you. Thanks for coming. Well, the reason why I ask you, you know, who could close? Because you believe the Cubs are still in it. So that's why it kind of does matter if you still like the-- I think the Cubs are in it. They are on the fringes. I mean, they're in the-- still in the hunt graphic on Foxy the other day. All right, there is no in the hunt. This is not the NFL. They had it in the hunt graph. I don't want to hear it. That's not true. They did take that. And I actually did a recap and called you and Shay out. J-Moor, no need to call J-Moor out because he's much more measured in his response. You two jackaloons, they're done. Give it up. Still alive, kid. I'm just following your lead when you said that that was all for the Cubs. That's all I was doing. You did say that. I don't remember saying that. Call yourself out. You call them dead. It's unbelievable, this guy. It's unbelievable. They've got hoodie. They've got like a 1 and 1/2% chance to make the playoffs. They're effectively 6 and 1/2 out of the wildcard. You and I are being unmeasured and saying it's over. This guy, here I swear to God. There he is, folks. Simple cap. They're dead. Tell a lie. Now he's back. See that happened? But that's the right thing to do. But it does matter. And by the way, question still stands about the Cubs cutting narrows the right thing to do. But it's still a glaring problem. And I don't know if you can fix that here in the off season, not just 9th, 7th, 8th, 9th. You got to get this fixed. Otherwise, Jed's done, cooked. He's got one year left. Yep. And he's going to get that year. That is 100%. So all the people that are sending us tweets, they got a fire jet. That's not going to happen. They are not going to fire him. He's got a year left. And he has been told, you're not getting extended. You're going to get your year. You better fix it. And I don't think, and it's been reported, they're going to be in there on Juan Soto because it's going to get the stupid levels. And they don't believe Juan Soto just signing him. I'm not saying I agree. I'm just telling you what's being reported and what I've been able to learn, that they don't believe just dropping him into the lineup fixes everything. They got to get a closer. They got to have these young kids come along that they're going to bring up. And they need to find a bat that fits into all of what they're doing. So we'll see where it goes. Chris Canty joins us at 935 from an unsportsman like the Super Bowl champion. He'll give his thoughts about the Bears. And coming up your phone calls, also strong comments from Miami quarterback to a Tango Viola. When it comes to Brian Flores, his former coach, we'll get to that and more. And a word from Howard Inkin, right around the corner on Captain Jay Hood. Follow Chicago's home for sports on Twitch at ESPN 1,000 Chicago. Captain Jay Hood are back on Chicago's home for sports. ESPN Chicago. You're listening to the Captain Jay Hood morning show on ESPN 1,000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. Captain Miami Dolphins quarterback to a Tango Viola was on the Dan Levittar show with stew gods talking about his former head coach, Brian Flores. Listen to this, for those that missed it. To put it in simplest terms, if you woke up every morning and I told you, you suck at what you did. That you don't belong doing what you do. That you shouldn't be here. That this guy should be here. That you haven't earned this right. And then you have somebody else come in and tell you, dude, you are the best fit for this. Like, you are accurate, you are the best. Whatever you are at this, you are that. Like, how would it make you feel listening to one or the other? You see what I'm saying? And then you hear it, you hear it. Regardless of what it is, the good or the bad. And you hear it more and more. You start to actually believe that. I don't care who you are. You can be the president of the United States. You have a terrible person that's telling you things that you don't want to hear or that you probably shouldn't be hearing. You're gonna start to believe that about yourself. And so that's sort of like what ended up happening. And it was, I mean, it's basically been what? Two years of training that out of not just me, but a couple of the guys as well that have been here since my rookie year all the way down out. So from Shea's standpoint, as a Patriots fan, Shea told us earlier about these Belichick disciples, these assistant coaches, where they're all like Belichick. I guess Bill was like that with some players as well, in which he ruled an iron fist. Kind of undermine them, tell them that they're not worth much or you got to play harder. I mean, every coach is different, but then every player is different as well. And I'm just glad that to have told his, said his piece. I just wonder what this does for Brian Flores though, because I'm sure he wants to be a head coach again, despite his lawsuit with the NFL. - Look, we talked about this a little earlier. You absolutely have to handle people a proper way. Not everyone could play for Bobby Knight. They couldn't. I don't think Bobby Knight could survive today in the manner that he coached. Kids just don't tolerate that stuff. Back in the 70s and 80s, you could say whatever you wanted to a player, and it did not matter. Guys, you either fell by the side because you weren't tough enough, or you toughened up. I remember talking to two guys who I had a good relationship. Both are now have left us. Daryl Thomas who played for Jean Pangator, late Jean Pangator at St. Joe's. Eric Anderson who went to your high school, St. Francis to sales. Both guys went to Indiana. And I asked both guys, boy, everything I've watched, read, heard, listen to you guys talk. Coach Knight was brutal. Oh, they said you have no idea how hard it was. I mean, he literally, for one of those guys for Daryl Thomas, literally because Daryl had a sprained ankle who couldn't play against Purdue, and they got out rebounding. He was their big man, came into his locker, and there was a tampon in the locker. I mean, that's the way it was back then. Doesn't make it right. That's the way it was, and I said to both guys. Okay, so now if you're coming out in your top 50 player in the country, where are you going now? And both guys said, Indiana, every seven days a week at twice on Sunday, made me a man. It was the greatest experience of my life. So while it was super hard to go through, they did that. Today, there's no way kids most are handling that. Agreed? - Yeah, there's no doubt because times have changed. Now, again, for your generation and my generation, that was commonplace. You just had to take it. I did. You did as well. - Correct. Because that was the way that they motivated. It was a different generation. Totally different now. Totally different now. And again, some would argue. - Totally different. - If that's good or bad. It's just different. It's just different. - Correct, but in today's generation, like if you took my oldest son, Nick, and you said, hey, Nick, that's how your coach is speaking to you, he would have thrived. Would he have been upset about it? Yeah, it would have bothered him. He's a human being, but he would have absolutely played harder. My other three? No chance. - Yeah. - No chance. - It's also probably situationally dependent. Like, I'm fine with difficult coaching and you can yell and shout and belittle or whatever you have to do if I believe that you're gonna make me a winner. And I think that's the problem. A lot of the former Belichick assistants have is like, especially Matt Patricia walked into a building where that team had just won nine games. The players liked Jim Caldwell who had just been fired and Patricia walks in and goes, you're all pieces of blank. You stink. I'm gonna make you a winner. Difficult training camps, calls them out, calls them names, belittles them, has 'em where pads, super physical. Flora has a lot of the same stuff in Miami. But you don't have the resume. You don't have the reputation of creating winners. And if you walk into a room where people are hesitant to listen to you and that's how you approach them, it's just not gonna work. I don't think it matters what generation you're from. You have to be able to prove something yourself to have the ability to tell, like, lead men that way. - So having said that, do you believe that Cap has made you better as a coach of this team? - I'm gonna plead the fifth hoodie. - Coming up next, we're here from Chris Canty, a Super Bowl champion. - Wow. - And... - You're better than that, Shay. - Part of Unsportsman-like. That's coming up next on Cap and J-hood. - Damn! (upbeat music) - Follow Chicago's Home for Sports on Twitter at ESPN1000. Cap and J-hood are back on ESPN Chicago, Chicago's Home for Sports. (upbeat music) - It's the Cap and J-hood Morning Show on ESPN1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. With you till 10 o'clock, the Mike Greenberg comes in followed by Carmen and Yurko 12 to three, while in Sylvia 230, blacken of Dallas, 630 into exciting White Sox baseballs that take on the Giants at eight o'clock start right here. On the home of the White Sox and the Bears, ESPN1000 as we go to the hotline. - That be the car ex-tired auto hotline. (upbeat music) ♪ Rattle, rattle, thunder, clatter, boom, boom ♪ ♪ Burn some trash, down ♪ ♪ Don't be afraid of a car accident ♪ - We turn to a Super Bowl champion. We turn to our teammate on unsportsmanlike. Five to seven right here on ESPN1000 is the great Chris Canty. He joins us here on Cap and J-hood. Good morning, Chris, how are you? - I'm doing good. I actually feel like I'm fortunate 'cause I'm the only member of my show that has been banned from your show. So I appreciate that. Thanks for having me off, fellow. - The Unbanned Double C, that's correct. - Now there has been a request made by one Michelle Smallman who's getting ready to kick off her NFL bachelorette tomorrow. She's gonna pick the top six teams that she thinks are finalists for her NFL fandom because you know the once upon a time St. Louis Rams were ripped from her. So she would like you guys to unbanned her from the show and from the station because Chicago Bears may or may not be in her top six to potentially get a roast. - Well, I love Michelle Smallman. She's a homie. I did not ban her. That was a cap ban, but since I'm part of the show, it's done that I could do about it. I didn't have veto power, Chris. So like Michelle Smallman's always welcome for me. - Okay. - If you can assure us we're going to be in that 16, the ban will be lifted. (laughs) - I will pass that information along. I can make no guarantees or assurances, but I will pass the message along to Michelle Smallman and we'll find out tomorrow, whether or not she's going to be, you know, be a part of, you know, you got to show moving forward. - Okay. Well, you're our accountability partner. So you got to make sure that that happens, Chris. (laughs) So that's the whole thing. You know, listen, there's a lot of excitement about what the Bears could be. We played your thoughts from a couple of days ago regarding San Francisco, Green Bay, Detroit, Dallas, and Philly being five teams that you believe that can make the playoffs and that the Bears are not as good as. But you feel like the Bears are in that next five. What, why is that? - Well, I just think that we don't have enough proof of concept to go ahead and vault the Bears over those other five teams that I mentioned before. But here's the deal. I think the teams at the top of the NSC each are poised to regress somewhat. I mean, when you look at the San Francisco 49er schedule, it's absolutely brutal. They have a huge rest disadvantage in comparison to some of their upcoming opponents on the slate. I mean, you think about it in eight of the games that they play this upcoming season, they have a rest disadvantage. So I mean, I can see a little bit of slippage there as well. I mean, the Detroit Lions, the Green Bay Packers, this kind of self-explanatory based on how those two teams finished last year. But yeah, I think that the Chicago Bears are gonna be firmly in the mix to be a playoff team. And just depending on how quickly we see Taylor Williams take control of this team and really evolve as a player, I just think that the Chicago Bears could absolutely make some noise in terms of continuing for an NSC more title. - So Tom Brady came out yesterday and said it's, I think he used the word tragedy that we force these rookie quarterbacks to play so quickly. And we dumb down the offense. You're a Super Bowl winner. Do you agree with Tom? Do you feel like, yes, we have dumb the offense down. Take the snap, get the ball out fast. We don't let them develop. Where Tom said, I was the seventh stringer at Michigan. I worked my way to the third. I eventually became a starter. I was there for five years. Then I sat in the NFL and when I was ready to play, I got my chance and I did it. What do you say? - Well, we're respected to go. I would say it's not a one size fit all. There are some quarterbacks that are ready to step in and play early and develop properly. I mean, you look at one of my former teammates, Joe Flacco and his rookie year at the team in the conference championship game, he eventually went on to win a Super Bowl. So I mean, it's not as if a rookie can't step in and the team has success in the rookie developed properly. I don't think that a rookie playing early is an impediment to his development. Now that being said, we don't see a lot of situations that are right to properly support a rookie quarterback, especially when you have to draft these guys in order to get them in today's game. Think about it. If you're a highly talented prospect, you're gonna get drafted to must be one of the worst teams in the league. Now the Chicago Bears just so happen to have an outlier situation because they own the Carolina Panthers first round pick, which ended up being number one overall pick. I would say that Kayla Williams playing early is not a bad thing in terms of his development just because he's stepping into the best situation that we've ever seen a number one overall pick step into. He's gonna be supported properly. They had the best defensive football in the second half of last year. Organization, Ryan Polls, I mean, they went out and got him a glut of weapons. I mean, Key and Allen, that was a smart trade by him. They had DJ more extended them this offseason. Then he drafted Romo Dunezay. You got Cole Komet, you went out and signed Gerald Everett and then of course you got the Andre Square. They got the pieces to properly support Kayla Williams. So I just think that when it comes to this specific situation, you can't apply the logic to Tom Brady is trying to discuss when it comes to young quarterbacks having to play early. Chris Canty on Sportsman like five to seven right here on ESPN 1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app before our show, Cap and Jay Hood. Chris, I need your help about the Bears defense because along with the Kayla Williams hype and the conversation, I have a keen eye on this defense. Like I feel good about the secondary. Feel good about the linebackers. But I'm wondering what this defense can do as far as a pass rush outside of Montez sweat. Not negatives, but I think they're question marks. As is, would a Demarcus Walker on the other side, Dexter Billings, is can this defense be able to have the same push as they did toward the end of the season as far as being opportunistic to the quarterback? - Well, you know, my coach used to say all the time you got to earn the right to rush the passer. And that means that you got to stop teams on person second down, being able to run the football and stay on schedule. It's hard to pass rush on second and four or third and two. - So I think the answer to that question will be how adept that defensive front is at being able to make offenses one-dimensional, especially our earlier downs and distances. If they can do that, but absolutely they'll be able to heat up the opposing quarterbacks with the guys that they got across that defensive front. - So we started this show today. I talked to a guy who played more than 10 years in the National Football League. He's sitting there with the all 22 yesterday from the Bengals game. And he calls me, he's like, dude, I was listening to you a hood this morning. He goes and you're leading the hype train. You're the conductor. - Caleb's the guy. Here we go, blah, blah, blah. - He said, there were moments that Justin made plays and made a throw where he went, wow, awesome. There were a six-TD game for Mitchell Trubisky. Jay Cutler had multiple games where he went, wow, look at that arm. He said Rex Grossman, the first month of the season, the Bears lost to the Colts in the Super Bowl. People were calling him the MVP. He said, can you pump the brakes? I said, absolutely not. He said, why? I said, because my judgment, like all Bears fans, is colored. I know how Rex turned out. I know how Mitch turned out. I know Jay was 52 and 52 as the Bears quarterback. The epitome of mediocrity. Justin got us a six-round draft pick. I know how those turned out. We have hope and my eyes tell me this kid's different. Do you agree with me or with him? Yeah, I think this kid is different. I think this kid is different. I mean, listen, it didn't start out the way that you would want it to in the second preceding game against the Bengals, three consecutive three-yard outs. I mean, that's abysmal. But the fact that they were able to capitalize on the sudden change, get points out of that, and then they were able to score the touchdown right before the two-minute and included in an explosive play in that drive. I think there's a lot to like when it comes to how Kayla Williams goes about his business in the natural playmaking. I think the biggest thing for him is because he is so talented, being able to play within the structure of the scheme, being able to hitch a back foot at the top of the pocket and go through your progression and get the ball out on time. I think that's the thing, making the routine look routine. If he can do that, then I think he avoids a lot of turnover-worthy plays. And you sprinkle in a little bit of the off schedule, second reaction stuff, and you got to make him to something that can be really special. Which gives me confidence that this will be different for Kayla Williams as opposed to those other Bears quarterbacks. It's who they've surrounded him with. When you go out and you get veteran players like that, God never received a room with Kayla now and then DJ aboard, that matters. When you go get a guy like DeAndre Swift who's coming from the Philadelphia Eagles, that matters and the success that he would be able to have. So Gerald Everett, the same thing. When you can flank him with guys that have had success in this league and been around successful quarterbacks, it just presents another person, another voice, outside of the coaching staff that can come to the aid of the young quarterback, if and when he has questions about how he have to go about his business. Chris, what's Evan Cohen like? Great question. Oh my God. I don't know if we have enough time to describe what Evan Cohen is like. I would just say this. We do. To know Evan Cohen is an adventure. Like there's always gonna be something. He's always gonna have some kind of quirky anecdote to come in the studio to start the show with to catch you off guard. He's a great guy, compliment professional, a hard worker, but I gotta be honest with you, Evan is known to throw you some curve balls here and there. So like he's a guy that always keeps you guessing, but I love the guy to death. Just wondering like, I mean, you're regimented because you used to a format, you're a player and you are forward thinking. And then Evan comes in with something weird and is kind of a guy be like, man, this is not our format. What is he talking about? That's at least that's how the show sounds to me sometimes. He just comes out with stuff out of nowhere. Yeah, I mean, he does. And like I said, he catches you off guard. You don't know what to do with it. Kind of like when he. I was like, I had no idea that he had a pet cemetery in his front yard. Neither did he until a couple of weeks ago. Like coming out with something like that. You're always gonna be throwing a curve ball with Evan Cohen. And you just gotta know to expect the unexpected. Hey, before we let you go, there was so much in Chicago. We're upgrading quarterback. We're upgrading receivers. We're doing this. We're good. They got to upgrade the head coach. And then Gerald Everett yesterday, I talked to Mercedes Lewis the other day. And he said, dude, you guys have no idea what it's like playing for Iber Flus. He's great in front of the team. He holds us accountable. He's a good dude to play for. And we like playing for this man. Have we all misjudged Matt Iber Flus? Oh, no doubt. I don't know that any head coach around the National Football League had the same kind of glow up this offseason that Coach Flus has had. And so I guess it must be the beer. Going with the bearded look as opposed to being treated. I don't know what it is, but I guess the players like it. His wife likes it all as well when it comes to the Chicago Bears and how everybody in that building feels about their head coach. But I think the part where it started to change for me was in the middle of last year, they traded for Montez when they got him that edge rusher to be able to implement his defense. And from there, you're talking about a defense that was tops when it came to efficiency, EPA, take away, score, and all of those different categories. And so when a head coach can show proficiency on his side of the ball, the area of his expertise, I think that gives everybody in the building a belief or proof of concept that this guy can actually get it done. And so I think they've utilized that momentum coupled with the fact that they had the number one overall pick in a year where there was a generational talent at the quarterback spot, which Chicago Bears organization and the fan base have been desert 34. So they got all of those things going for them. And I think they're rallying around Coach Iber Flus who a lot of people feel like was unfairly put on the high seat because it was dealt an impossible head. It is our pleasure, Chris Canty. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Gentlemen, I appreciate it. And I'm going to make the message to Michelle Smallman. Hopefully you can get her band lifted from ESPN 1,000. We can work on that. We're more than willing to be fair. Yes. Enjoy your rated G hard knocks tonight. It's going to be outstanding. Later on. Chris Canty with us here, the cap and Jhood. Cut of the day, next on cap and Jhood. [MUSIC PLAYING] Cap and Jhood, I'm back. Appreciate you guys. I listened to you streaming on the ESPN 1,000 apps. Chicago's home for sports, ESPN Chicago. Now time for the cap and Jhood Cut of the day. That's brought to you by David Farm. Met more. Chicago, cut, steakhouse. If you're visiting our city, you've got to try. Chicago, cut, steakhouse. Best in the business. Arlesale, north side of the Chicago River. Jable? You know, yes, it's boring, but it's a sport. Whoa, whatever. It's not boring. OK, then you're boring. All right, cut. He said in past interviews, quarterbacks don't play the way I played. They aren't looking at a defense. They aren't changing plays at the line of scrimmage. They aren't calling audibles. They're just taking the play and running it. I think that's true for a lot of making his point. They can't audible. They can't read a defense. Cap, I'm not making that point. That's the point Brady made. If you would listen to what I'm saying-- That is coming down the game, J. I'm saying he's wrong. You're not listening to me. I'm using Brady's words and saying I disagree with him. You're not listening to what I'm saying. No, I am. And you never took a snap in your life, and he won seven super boys. I never direct a movie either, but I can tell you when they suck. That is such a horrible analogy. You need to just go back to bed then. Just get up, leave, and go home and go to bed. Because that's the dumbest thing you've ever said. Tom freakin' Brady is the greatest quarterback of all time. And all you have to do is turn on a game. And Lord knows, yet the biggest thing in your life is watch football and go, it is not as complex as it was when that guy came up. It's get the snap, boom, balla. Caleb Williams didn't know how to take a snap under center. What was it when Tom Brady came up? Watch Tom Brady's old games. Watch Tom Brady's late games. He's throwing screens. People call them check down, Tom. What are we doing? Yeah, Tom was up at the line of scrimmage, but so was Peyton, F, and Manning. Correct me if I'm wrong, he didn't sit his rookie year. OK, you're talking about-- I literally started this off. Cap, I started this off by saying he's my favorite player of all time. I respect him immensely as a player. It doesn't mean I have to agree with everything he's ever said. Yeah, well, you also sell some water that-- You're so dead wrong. Like, what are we talking about? He can be wrong. He's not God. Damn. On this one, you sound ridiculous. Damn. And that's all, folks. The Captain J. Hood cut of the day. Brought to you by Chicago Cut. Steakhouse, again, visiting our city, or you live here, you know. Chicago Cut, that's the Rolls Royce of going to a great restaurant. So it's the Cubs against the Tigers. And, Shay, you're going to the game. You know how you buy is going to be there. Yeah, it's a return to Wrigley Field. That's correct, and he's going to get a standing ovation. Even Pete Crow Armstrong said Sunday afternoon, it's just I marvel at the level of support still at Wrigley for Hobby. Hobby was one of our favorite players. He won a World Series. He finished second for MVP, just because he went to your Dead Ass Tigers team and has a lousy run going there. That's you, not him. That's fine. I'm going to stand with the fans, and I'm going to boo very loudly at-- Help somebody smacks you. Oh, that's good. It's my right to boo. He's the worst free agent signing. One of the worst in history, to be honest with you. Boo him when you're in Detroit. Don't boo him at Wrigley. I'm booing him here. Tonight, I will be booing Harvey Baez. And, by the way, you can have Hector Neris, a DFA if you're just joining the show. Out. See you later. I look forward to seeing what happens there. You want to try something? Shay, put that on the pole. Adios, pin 1,000. Will you boo Harvey Baez? I might be alone in this agenda. No, no, no, I don't think so. I don't think so. I want to know how many co-fans will boo Harvey Baez. That'll come back at least 85% that they will not boo. Yeah, I'm looking forward to-- Sure, standing low. I'm looking for the-- You know I'm looking for the nose in that spot, right, Shay? But I'm standing up right now, standing ovation. We thank you for listening and calling in a big part of the program. How about on Waddle Wednesday tomorrow? Let's do it. Love talking with our guy, Tommy Waddle. Thank you, Shay. Thank you, Jay Moore. We'll talk to you tomorrow. So long, everybody. Take that. From Chicago. Come on, so badly, I want to go outside where everyone knows that a man ain't supposed to cry, listen.