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Quin Hillyer - VP Harris is to scared to interview - Mobile Mornings - Tuesday 8-27-24
News. Sports. Weather from Dr. Bill Williams. Traffic info from Kane. And one of the Gulf Coast's most familiar voices. It's mobile mornings with Dan Brennan and Dalton R. Wig. As Leana got it up on the Facebook page, she hasn't. I'm sure it's going up very shortly. Mr. Bennett, David from the Willacucci Metroplex in Southeast Georgia. David Bennett, an interesting looking fella. He was also part of our news story that we had about him taking all those clothes off at a laundromat. In your illustrious political career, have you ever pulled that stunt? Quinn Hillier. I thought that's what everybody does. Well, it does make sense. That's the dirty clothes you brought. I mean, you got to wash your clothes. You got to take them off to wash them, right? It sounds like you're David's attorney. The laundromat should provide you a robe like a hospital, right? So you walk in. A paper robe. Yeah, and you change into that. Wash all your clothes, change back, and then you're good to go. That's not that that be. It would make laundromats a lot more interesting. Certainly would. Good morning, Quinn. How are you? I'm doing fine. How about you? Doing just good. Yeah, we're great. Of course. I don't know if you can remember a news cycle and it's been an ever-ending cycle, but just whether it's warfare or domestic politics or the border, it just goes on and on and on. And we are closer than ever, of course. That's a cliche to Election Day coming up in November. The big DNC wrapped up last week with Kamala Harris speaking on Thursday night. What were your thoughts on? I guess you could call it the show that the Democrats put on. I don't know if you watched much of it, but your overall thoughts? Well, I watch none of it. I watch none of it. I watch none of the Republican convention. I'm disgusted with both sides, and I didn't want to get either angry or depressed, so I didn't watch it. But I did see a few next-day news clips, and I read the stories about them. Look, it's a whole bunch of show saying what's the Shakespeare thing? Bunch of Sand and Fury signifying nothing. She is a radical leftist. She has a running mate. She is a radical leftist. The running mate also has a problem telling the truth about his own record. Meanwhile, she's too much of a coward to take any questions. It's not an encouraging thing for those who are afraid that she might actually win, because she is so far left and so incompetent in answering questions that she's pretending that it's still COVID, and she's hiding in her basement. Trump is doing the opposite. He's taking interviews with pretty much anyone who will have him, including long sit-down podcasts that he's doing interviews with, including some comedians who push the boundaries a little bit when it comes to vulgarity sometimes. Trump doesn't care. He'll go on with anybody, but now they're arguing about this potential debate on ABC that was set for September 10th. We'll see if it happens, but how much stock would you put in a debate between the two? How important is that for the country to see? Well, I think politically it's going to be really, really important. This race is very fluid. It's close, and it's fluid. Both of these candidates have a way of turning off both the other side and the middle. People are going back and forth and back and forth, not necessarily between voting for one or the other, but between either say voting for Trump or casting a right-in vote or voting for Paris versus casting a right-in vote or not voting at all for president. A lot of this swinging back and forth has to do with who's actually going to turn out to vote. That is very, very volatile. The one time maybe that they get on the stage together, a lot of people are going to be watching. I think it's really interesting here what this dispute is about or maybe a request from Harris that wants to change the debate in a way it had to do with the microphones because the mics were muted with Biden because that allowed, I don't know, it was fair or less convoluted or what? That really worked in Trump's favor. Now the word is that the Harris team wants to unmute the mics, and Trump is saying, "Hey, we agreed to a certain, well, we made an agreement that the mics would be muted." I think that muted mics do work in Trump's favor, but I think more than anything, he just needs to debate or however it happens. Well, good question. He's quicker on his feet. She starts repeating platitudes that don't even make any sense. I actually do think that as long as he is kept in check and the microphone turning off when he's not supposed to be talking, he helps keep him in check. As long as he keeps in check, I think he probably will come across better to people because she really sounds like an idiot even though she's not. But what is really obnoxious is it was the Democrats who demanded that they have a microphone shut off system so only one person could talk at a time. So Trump's team said, "Okay, that's fine. Those are the rules that you demand. We want a debate. We'll accept the rules." Now it's the Democrats coming and saying, "No, now we want no mics cut off. How can you say you will not participate in the debate unless they change the rules that you yourself demanded?" It's just nonsense. Well, all of this just seems so. I mean, the fact that Harris is now running in Biden is still the president. I can't even make sense of all this. Biden, by the way, beginning is second week of vacation in a row now. He'll be in Roheub with Beach all week. So is he president? I think that asks the question. Do you worry about the things going on in Ukraine and in the middle of Gaza? Yeah. Quinn, also, let's talk a bit about Kamala not doing the big interviews or really interviews at all. Both candidates. I know you have questions that you'd like to hear both of them answer. Well, for Trump, at least he's taking questions, he's taking, you know, people are asking him a bunch of weird questions that don't have much to do with anything, but I give him credit for answering questions. But what I'd like to ask him is, "Okay, if you're so tough on the border, then why did you have more border crossings in your four years than Barack Obama had in either of his two years? If you're so good at negotiating, why did you shut down the government for 35 days and end up with less border funding than the Democrats offered at the beginning of the fight? You negotiated backwards. If you're so good on trade, why did the trade deficit go up? There's a whole bunch of things where on his top issues, he actually failed spectacularly despite all his big talk. And, you know, I've got the fact to lay that to prove it. But at least he's open to those questions if somebody will ask him. Kamala Harris? No, she's not open at all. And there are a lot of serious questions that need to be asked. Starting with her record also, since I mentioned her up on the border, her record obviously is even worse. And big question, there are 4 million more illegal immigrants now than when Biden and Harris took office. What is she going to do with them? Will she deport them? Of course not. Or is she going to offer amnesty to the extra 4 million, like the original 11 million? People need to know that. Are they just going to be free to wander around the country with that ever basically signing in? Second question, all of these things that, according to anonymous campaign spokesman, she has changed. She was from mandatory gun buybacks. She was for a socialized government single-payer health care system. She was for packing the Supreme Court. She wanted a federal job guarantee that could cost $2 trillion per year. She wanted a ban on fracking. Now, supposedly, she changed her mind on all that, but she hadn't taken any questions, hasn't said for herself whether she changed her mind. Has it answered why, if she changed her mind, what led her to change her mind, which makes us wonder whether or not she actually did. I could go on and on and on. There's so many questions this lady hasn't answered. If she does get up there, all she says is, "Well, we're unburdened by what has been." If you think about the passage of time, the passage of time is important for our children, and it isn't that important. It's crazy. I agree. We can complain about it. We do need to hear those answers, but really, if you're on her campaign team, it seems to be the best strategy, the Biden-basement strategy. The Biden-basement strategy worked for Biden, and of course, he had an excuse. It was COVID. She doesn't even have an excuse, but a lot of the establishment media, of course, is covering for her. There are a few voices out there like Chris Saliza, who used to be a top political analyst at CNN. He's off on his own now, but he's on Twitter every single day saying, "Answer questions, lady. It's your job to answer questions." People like Jake Capra at CNN are starting to say that. If she does it for too much longer, even the media is going to start getting angry because it's a slap in the face to them. As far as the media, just in step with that celebration last week in Chicago, they're coverage of this period of time. It's like this joyous, wonderful vibes, no substance at all. Yet they are all over covering this campaign in the most positive light. The Media Research Center a matter a week ago had analyzed all of the establishment media coverage of both candidates. I forgot which was the '89 and which was the '84, but basically it was either 89% or 84% of all mentions of Kamala Harris since Biden dropped out have been positive. 89% or 84% of all mentions of Donald Trump had been negative. That's not unbiased reporting. That's not fair reporting. It's not objective reporting. It's sick. It is so bad that it's basically media corruptions. What's the history of this? When is this the worst it's ever been? Well, it's hard to say it might be the worst it's ever been, but the media has been bad for seven decades now. If you go back and read the Pulitzer Prize-winning Best Ever Novel Ever Written About American Politics, Advise and Consent, 1960, the media there in that 1960 book was portrayed as horribly biased in the left wing. It's been around a long time. I can remember the 1992 election where there were bumper stickers all over that said annoyed the media about Bush, because they were so in favor of Clinton. It's been around a long time, but I do think maybe it's worse because now that there's Fox News, the rest of the media says, "Oh, we don't even have to try to be fair," because we say Fox News is unfair the other way, so that gives us leave to just go and push our guys. When I want to get your thoughts quickly on the endorsement that came Trump's way Friday, so after Harris finishes her big speech in Convention Thursday night, RFK drops out of the race mostly in just the swing states that could go Trump's way possibly, and gives a 45-minute speech about why he's dropping out, then he joins Trump at the rally later that night. We've seen other Democrats turned independence that have endorsed Trump over the last few months, and then Tulsi Gabbard did so earlier this week. A lot of Democrats, former Democrats who feel burnt by the current Democrat Party, one way or the other, but you had RFK who was polling at 1.15% nationally. By the time he dropped out, the number had gone down to around 4%. I think most of the Democrats who were not voting Biden were initially maybe thinking about voting RFK. They've since jumped back on the Harris team, but this could mean some major things in some of these swing states. What are your thoughts? I think the dual endorsements of RFK and Tulsi Gabbard do help Trump at the margins. Certainly don't hurt him, although frankly, both of them were a little wacky. They're a little bit nuts. They spew conspiracy theories. They're both radically, basically pro-Putin, which makes me sick. They certainly shouldn't affect many people, but to the extent that they have followings, and to the extent that Tulsi Gabbard, at least, is admirably anti-woke, they do help. If there's a close state like Georgia was 11,000 votes four years ago, then those two endorsements could mean the difference between 12,000 votes one way or another, and it could help Trump. I want to ask you about a down-baller race, but one that's very important in our area, and that's District 2, with Shamari figures making appearance at the DNC last week. They're now set to debate, so we'll get Quinn's thoughts on that when we return. October 10th, I believe. Ok, Quinn Hillier, Washington Examiner is back for more. It's about 821. Dan Redden, Dalton, Oregon, FM talk 106-5. Dan Ed Dalton, FM talk 106-5, Mobile Morning's at 825. We continue our conversation with Quinn Hillier. You can catch his work at the Washington Examiner.com, also Quinn Hillier.com, and sign up for the newsletter. Quinn, so it's been a minute since we've talked about this AL2 race, and it hasn't really taken many headlines. More and more recently it has, but they're now set for a debate. This debate will be hosted by AL.com with a single moderator, a writer for AL.com, October 10th. We saw figures briefly. I think Dan clocked at it around two and a half minutes, take the stage at the DNC on Thursday night after Steph Curry, the basketball player endorsed Kamala Harris. He didn't really have enough time up there to talk about anything he would do as Congressman. What do you make of this race now with the switch at the top of the ticket? I think possibly hostile territory for Dobson to go do this debate with AL.com moderating. It depends on who AL.com has as the moderator. Look, this is going to be one of the most important races in the country if the House ends up evenly divided, because this race is basically a 50-50 race. Right now Republicans have only a four-seat majority. I think it is four or five of the last track with the special elections. You could come down to one seat making the difference between who has the speakership. This seat is going to be one of the closest in the country, the registration advantage or the voting history advantage, both slightly favored Democrats. But the turnout is likely to favor Republicans, meaning Caroline Dobson. Because this is a presidential election, because Trump is so popular down here, it is thought that Republicans are going to be more likely to turn out down here since Democrats don't think they have a chance to win on anything big. That Republican turnout advantage could make the difference between the registration advantage for the Democrats, and that makes it a 50-50 race. So this is such a big race nationally. We are told about that, like a hurricane warning, like the money is going to come rolling in, and you are going to be inundated with all these ads one way or the other. I haven't really heard or seen that talk. Nothing from the Nationals. No, but we do expect that before election day, right, Quinn? If both parties are smart, they will send a lot of money in here. I have been surprised that they haven't done so yet. But I think what happens is if one side does, then the other side is going to match it. But both of them are spending resources in media markets that are more expensive right now. But if, say the Democrats say, "Okay, we really need this seat," and they throw in a million dollars for Shamari figures, I feel very certain that Republicans will match it or vice versa. And is it fair to say that just switching Biden off the ticket in lieu of anyone else, but Harris being the nominee now, that favors not just Shamari figures, but Democrats in many of these close house races, because of that turnout you mentioned? Yeah, because, look, very few people were actually excited about Joe Biden, and also because, you know, and don't want to over generalize, but just as a numerical fact, because black voters have tended to vote much more heavily Democratic, and because they, you know, they have now got black candidates at the top of the ticket who is young and energetic. That might help boost their turnout, which means helps the Democrats. Quinn, thanks for your time again today, and we will drive people toward your articles in the Washington Examiner at QuinnHealyard.com. Thanks a bunch. Thank you. Appreciate it. Bye. Coming back, turning up your voice 2513430106. We have some texts to get to, and some news to get to as well. Stay tuned. Okay, Dan and Dauton, if you talk one of six, five mobile mornings. Good morning, Steve. Hey, 35. Michelle Obama, who spoke about her roots growing up great modestly. And she talked about the distribution of wealth and generational wealth and everything fed at the DNC. Quick Google search says she's worth about $70 million. That's not bad. I don't think I'd be, you know, I don't think I would be the loudest complainer at the party if I was worth $70 million. We might get around to that. That looks like it's becoming a story. People examining what she had to say at the DNC. Yeah, that was, you know, and she got some of the highest marks of people who spoke at the DNC. I think if you ranked, if I ranked, let me say that if I ranked the speakers, at least the notable ones, I didn't watch every single speaker at the DNC. But as far as rhetoric, the ability to fire up their base and get people excited, which is what these conventions are all about, it was still Obama, right? You know, still Barack Obama at the top of that list as far as his ability to do things like, you know, speak to a large crowd at the United Center. He's still better than pretty much any Democrat we've seen in some time. Then after that, really kind of a crapshoot, you've got Bill Clinton who he slipped. Yeah, he has slipped from the past Bill Clinton, but as far as the speakers go, I think he got a good dinger in where he said, don't count the lies, count the eyes, talking about Trump, talking about himself. You know, you also had, you know, and they brought Biden in that first night and tucked him away very, very late to the night, of course. Actually spoke after 11 o'clock. How weird was it that he was gone after that night? You know, he didn't participate in any of the rest of it. This is all crazy. I mean, it's all unprecedented, all so strange. They posted a picture of him and his wife watching the TV as Kamala was getting prepared to speak that last night. But other than that, I don't think we've seen him since he's been on, he was vacationing last week, and he's on vacation again this week in Rohoboth Beach. And, you know, every morning we play audio and tell you the latest from Ukraine. Some mornings we dive in on the Israel situation. We've got the border situation still and, you know, the supposed leader of the free world, it's clear. He's not leading. He's just not. So we have an unelected person or bureaucracy that is taking us through one of the toughest times in recent memory, including, you know, this, I guess it's not a hot war, but this nuclear power of Russia and how close we are with reaching, you know, a really crucial point in that war and Biden's just vacationing, which the sad thing is we're better off with him on vacation. And then, you know, Harris seems to be so underqualified to take on all of these situations that she refuses even to discuss them. So she's not, she's saying, look, I'm not in charge here. Oh, my day is going to come when I went in November, but she is kind of in the hierarchy of Biden in his own vacation. Somebody's got to be in charge of something and it seems to me that the reason she doesn't want to sit down with an interview is she's not going to pass the test. Yeah. And America's going to see somebody who just doesn't really have the answers. So you said there was, there's just apparently one podcast kind of taking a deeper dive into what Michelle Obama was saying. Well, I came across one. Okay. But now I'm looking and it looks like it's a wider group of agencies and people who have, this is Michelle Obama at the DNC talking about, I think, generational wealth. And notice when she's talking about we will discuss that on the backside. We will never benefit from the affirmative action of generational wealth. If we bankrupt the business, if we bankrupt the business or choke in a crisis, we don't get a second, third or fourth chance. We don't have things. Don't go our way. We don't have the luxury of whining or cheating others to get further ahead. No, we don't get to change the rules. So we always win. If we see a mountain in front of us, we don't expect there to be an escalator waiting to take us to the top. But a couple things there. We, we, we, we, I guess we is African Americans. Yeah, African Americans or the Democrat party. And the rest would be other independents or Republican voting whites. Well, yeah, I mean, obviously just direct shots. But she's not saying it. She's not saying. I think, you know, that was, that was aimed towards Trump, but also, you know, the man. Yeah, you want to put the man in quotes. So the escalator to the top, if you own a business, if you're, if you're, if you're me or you and we own a business and we fail, we get two or three more chances just because what we look like. That, that appeared to be what you were saying. Yeah. And, and she doesn't because of what she looks like. That's what she said. Yeah. All right. Cut to you see, my mom in her steady, quiet way lived out that striving sense of hope every single day of her life. She believed that all children, all, all people have value that anyone can succeed have given the opportunity. She and my father didn't aspire to be wealthy. In fact, they were suspicious of folks who took more than they needed. They understood that it wasn't enough for their kids to thrive if everyone else around us was drowning. So her mother, mother Teresa evidently, who took in all the poor kids around her and what wasn't satisfied until everybody was doing well and in neighborhoods like probably where they grew up, there could have been a lot of that going on. Well, she's, how about that line? Suspicious of people who took more than they needed. That's her net wealth. And I'm not hating on people who've built up massive wealth. But actually your goal should be to build generational wealth. Yeah. And, and so people in right now, we're talking to an audience, black, white, whatever, they're just trying to get by there. They may also plan B if part of it is to build this generational wealth, help their kids along the way as well. Like you say, that should be the goal. That shouldn't be, you shouldn't be everyone should want to down for their children. And so she's talking about her parents were suspicious of people who took more than they were worth. And Michelle Obama, Google search, if it's good or not, I don't, is it $70 million off because it says that is her wealth. It just, it, it, when you, when you listen to it, it's without saying it, it's very divisive. Yeah. Completely divisive on race. It's divisive, but divisiveness works. You know, we've seen that. And that's why almost, you know, 40% of the country is hard one way and 40% of the country is hard the other way. And then the remaining 20% are just trying to figure out, you know, which way to go. And that way, once again, has narrowed itself down to just basically two candidates, unless you're voting Jill Stein or any of the other candidates who were still on the running. You know, John Stewart who is definitely liberal. I think he had some great years of comedy as well on the Daily Show. And I guess he's made a return to the Daily Show of some sort. Yeah, it's not. Maybe it's just because it's election season. They'll have him hosting that. And he's on that show itself. Yeah, on that show. And so he went off a little early there, but he kind of spoke about the same thing regarding the DNC. And we'll bring this back locally and talk about the AL2 race here in a minute. But, you know, I was sharing this with a lot of folks over the weekend. And then some of you are early yesterday began sending this clip in as well. You'd seen it. He's ripping the DNC. And he's talking about the hypocrisy and how you he mentions without mentioning his name, the Illinois governor JB Pritzker, who is well off. You talk about generational wealth. I mean, the Pritzker family. And he also references Bill Clinton a little bit later in this. And remember when Tim Walz was ripping on Yale, because JD Vance went to Yale. Right. I listened to this from John Stewart. They had a guy yelling, screw the billionaires, followed immediately by a very happy billionaire. That's the Pritzker reference. Okay. It's all OK if it's how a billionaire. They had guys making fun of people for going to Yale. And a bunch of people who went to Yale. Some prime John Stewart returning there. But yeah, I mean, hypocrisy is the name of the game. It's kind of what you have to expect, especially when you're watching a party's convention where the intent is to just fire people up to maybe get out and do some canvassing and eventually get more folks to the poll for you in November. Bill Mars, another one that was he's I don't know if he wouldn't be fair to say that he's changing politically, but the things changing around him are leaving him a whole lot less far left when we would watch Bill Maher in 2015. It would feel like Republicans were obviously always his targets. That's not not the case anymore. Well, he's a he is a pretty good contrarian. He sees the way the wind is blowing. And sometimes it's way after the wind is hit him in the face. But then he kind of takes the opposite stance. I mean, I remember how peyote I was about Bill Maher when he had that movie come out, basically completely refuting and not just refuting, but making fun of people who choose to believe that there's a God. Yeah, I don't know if you remember when that came out. I don't like the creationist museum. And it was just a really, you know, it was mean when it came down to it. I mean, say what you want to say, yeah, but I get it. He's a comedian. That's kind of his schtick. And then he was, you know, going after the Republicans throughout the Bush administration and so on and so forth. I guess he has values, certain values, but yeah, he's been way more likely to rip on Democrats over the last few months and maybe even a couple years. He's not he's not a fan of woke. Right. And then that is how big a page is that in the Democrat book right now? I think it's a page beginning to dissolve a little bit. I think there are there are those who have said I'm not going that far. And so you're going to go without me. Yeah, I think so. Let's go through some of these texts and you could join the discussion. 2513430106 texture here says illegal immigrant stabs, probably another illegal to death in Sims hit and run in Pensacola. Also DUI no license illegal. Yeah, we're seeing more and more of these cases pop up. That's Sims one, especially apparently the suspect here in that deadly stabbing in Sims was due to be deported by ICE and he had appealed that deportation and was set to have a hearing next month. But he allegedly stabs this other person to death in that yard just off of Schillinger over the weekend. Sean says I was voting RFK now I'm voting Trump. So tell Quinn to suck it. Okay, I missed the opportunity to tell Quinn those words. But I think, you know, even though RFK was left with about 4% national polling and who knows if polls are correct or not, by the time he dropped out, at that point, most of the Democrats who were just going to vote for him because they didn't like Biden had already fled back onto the hair. So there is likely a pretty good portion of that 4% who is deciding between voting for Trump or staying at home. I doubt very many of them that are left are thinking of voting for comma because I think she probably already gained a lot of those. Ben, talking about the AL.com debate with the AL2 congressional candidate says there's nothing neutral about AL.com. Rad Dobson is going to have to beat the other team in the refs. So the moderator for this coming up October 10th is Ivana Hrinku, who's I've seen her writing for a couple years, I think now on AL.com. She is in charge of writing about the Department of Corrections. So she's had all the deaths, right? She's the one there, right? She's always, she's always pulling for more paroles to be given out to inmates. And she's also very anti-death don't let you can see that clearly in her writing. And I don't know how much she's written about other potential, you know, policy positions of these two candidates. She don't want to show it up with the inappropriate skirt. Was that her? I'm not sure I can't remember. I don't know, but I was. I had forgotten completely about that. Yeah. Add a sexy for this execution. I can't remember. I completely forgotten about that. But so she's the moderator. I think that's an interesting choice to say the least. I mean, I would have, if you're looking for someone who's right down the middle, as least as far as his reporting goes, I mean, John Sharp is the guy, right? Pretty much anyone else on AL.com, you know, Mike Casein, I think would even do a better job. He at least follows the issues in this state from the legislative standpoint. But I'm not sure how they decided on Ivana Hrinku. We'll see. I do think it'll be a tougher job for Dobson too. And there's no crowd. It'll just be online. But a tougher job for her to win over the viewers of that debate than it will be for Shamari figures. Leo pointing out, he said Michelle Obama said my parents taught me to not trust wealthy people. Yeah. This texture. Don't the Obamas live in a $23 million mansion in an all white community. Well, I don't know if it's all white. Is it the Hamptons? They have several homes, by the way, as you look back and listen to some of that Michelle Obama audio, rock and roll doctor. I've been issued two US patents that I spent a ton of money and time to get so far after three and a half years, I haven't received any income from it, but I'm still trying. Where's my escalator? I need a ride. I'm just a dumb white male patent holder. Pete says, Hmm, a Marxist with four mansions warning about others who take more than they need. Keith from Agricolas is a great show, guys. They divide no unity. King of all unnamed textures says, uh, wow, the lack of self awareness by top dems is staggering. And yeah, I'm sure there's a lack of self awareness, but also they're saying what works to get elected. It works for them. That's how they rally their side. Yeah. And again, you know, just tucked in there was the we like an I mean, we. Okay. Now I think we know what that is. And then the and then the but we can't cheat and line our way back to the top. I mean, so that's so we're not used. So that's us. Right. That's what we are doing. It's similar to the deplorables comment from Hillary, right? It really is. 851 FM talk one oh six five. 855 FM talk one oh six five and mobile mornings wrapping it up on this Tuesday. This segment brought to you by the great folks over at Tobias and Comer Law. It's a local personal injury law firm that's helped get fair compensation for a ton of people in our area and they've been working at that for decades from their office down on Dolphin Street. 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What's that number at now 32 33 34 35 trillion dollars in debt but at the same time we have to keep our military ready and our other areas of defense ready to go. We've got to pay our bills. We have to pay the bills. So our land-based nuclear missiles these silos that we keep our nukes in. This has been a discussion for some time that we really need to upgrade these bases and the latest from that. So the support for this is dropping as the price keeps increasing. The Pentagon has now revised the projected cost of refurbishing hundreds of nuclear missile silos. I think I saw this number and it's frightened the heck out of me. So this is 141 billion dollars. That's up 30 billion dollars from an estimate that they just gave out in January. The US Air Force project known as Sentinel includes replacing the Cold War era ICBMs that are inside the silos with newer model missiles. The largely rural communities that house those missiles have been plunged into uncertainty. You know this means jobs for them just like so many other government contracts and thousands of workers are waiting to begin this construction project. Now military leaders are saying it could be five years or more before work starts in some of these rural communities. Sentinel is part of a long delayed nuclear arms refresh that the Congressional Budget Office estimates will cost at least one and a half trillion dollars over the next 30 years. Yeah that's memorized off. You have some lawmakers who are questioning whether we really need land-based missiles anymore. Now that there are so many out on the water with the submarines and also bombers of course. The missiles sitting inside some 450 silos are now decades past their projected lifespan of 10 years. They also have to run thousands of miles of new fiber optic cabling. That's why it's such a massive project. 859 gotta go Jeff for on the way next.