Danny and Dusty

8-27-24 Full show

Danny's got the meat sweats. Oregon & Washington games to be blacked out on Big Ten Network for Comcast/Xfinity viewers. Trail Blazers name new Rip City Remix head coach. 5 types of people you don't want to fight. Most overrated & underrated college football teams based on preseason/final rankings. NFL roster cutdown day. Worst Day on the Web: an out-of-state winner at a State Fair contest? NCAA wants to limit transfer windows. College football rivalry trophy matchups. The Athletic's NFL QB tiers. Yahoo Sports' college football picks. What would be the most surprising letdown in college football this season?

Duration:: 2h 19m
Broadcast on:: 27 Aug 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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Are you sweating? A little bit. My goodness. A little bit of meat sweats. Oh, that lunch gets you. That lunch run right through you. Ran right through me. Oh, buddy. We had to run into the studio to make it before. I hope everybody's enjoying their lunch right now. Because Danny literally sprinted out of this studio at $11.53. And he came in as the open was playing. It's a photo finish. That's a quick time. That's a great time. That's a great time. Can't force those things. Well, I mean, if I did any more, my intestine will be hurting. Oh, boy. Wow, that was a photo finish. You were down to the wire. I was. I heard Russ doing the update in the bathroom. I was like, oh, boy. Yeah, this was-- You may hate him, but you had a Noah Lyles-like finish. You started behind. And boy, you clipped your way right through the pack. You made it. I clipped something. You made it. Crap. Oh, boy. Well, I'm glad you made it. Are you OK? You look like you're hurting. I mean, there's a lot of force going on there. All right. OK. Well, I'm glad you made it. This is not a natural birth, as it were. Yeah, all right. OK. Yikes. Whoa, hey. It stinks. Yeah. It does. Poor bat. You're going to be the talk of the office now. If I pushed any harder, I need to have a dural. Take it in the back end. Mm. You know, there's nothing more triggering than a male telling a female. Like, I just wouldn't understand. And they're like, try having a baby. They're like, yeah, you don't know. You don't know. You don't know that. It's one of my favorite pastimes of just triggering my wife is just being like, yeah, I mean, I guess. But you don't know what that's like. Does her eyebrow just twitch out of control? Yeah. She gets the times that I feel like she's going to stab me is I'm just sitting there going. But all right, so a child. OK. You see the size of this sliver, though? You see that? That's a metal sliver in my finger. Well, look, let's face it when they're, you know, toughen up. Yeah, OK. When they're fresh on the way out, they're still pretty pliable. Yeah, this is metal. There's nothing moving this. This isn't-- this is-- it hurts. As you're speaking in my life right now, I literally dug a freaking metal piece out of my thumb yesterday before I went on air. See, that's the thing. My wife doesn't understand that pain. Coward? It really is like, boy, when you go through that, you're like, there is no person tougher than my wife right now. Not a single one in the world, except for the one who's doing it right now, somewhere around the world, and then right now, and right now, and right now. But in that moment, nobody's tougher than her right then. What about the chemical in their body that makes them forget the pain? Like, that tells you everything you need to know. They get that when they get a cold, too, because my wife's way tougher in that regard as well. Like, I'm like, yeah, I got this sign as per-- she's like, toughen up, buttercup. I'm a giant man, baby, when I'm sick. OK, sorry. Sorry. You know? You don't notice I getting kicked in the nuts. That one, they don't know. You don't know. It might be. It might be worse. I don't got a chemical that releases this as then. I didn't hurt. No. All the chemicals say, that hurts, man. It hurts all along. That hurts. If you're talking about the triggering conversation towards a woman, I was like, think about it this way. You give birth what? Once, maybe twice? I get hit in the nuts about 7,000 times in my life. I think you're about a giant weenie. Yeah. Yeah, that will trigger. Oh, God. That one's going to be a big trigger right there. That's not a-- Just threw the grenade in there. Whoa. You just walk right out of that room. Just boo. Bush. You have no idea. I just got to walk away. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. I don't. I don't. I've had some bad runs. Yeah. Yeah. God, I've got-- There are some drops. But I've eaten a lot of fiber this week. I'm always high on fiber. Yeah, I don't. I may not know that pain, but I-- Nope, still not the-- OK, still not the same. We're not going to compare them. That's fair. Well, I will not compare that. There's in no way, shape, or form. Am I ready for that kind of pain? This feels like cowardice. Oh, dude. On your part. You don't-- yeah, you don't know. You don't know. Yeah, we did have a-- we did have a swag-- here's the situation moment there. I mean, that was-- Here's the situation. There they are. Danny was in here going, hold on, everybody. And then all of a sudden, the open started. And he's like, it's over. And then I took one look at him. And I was like, we think it's the most insanely tight hole I've ever seen. OK, wow. Rust. You ain't wrong, man. Man, that turd cutter goes to work. I can't take you guys anywhere. Not a single place. Just like I-- Yeah, never. Never. Vancouver 4 text line's hot and heavy already. You don't know pain till you have a kidney still in the size of a golf pencil. Nope, you're right. I don't. I don't. I will never forget sophomore health in high school. There is a girl sitting right next to me. Her name was Heather. She was sitting right next to me. And she was crippled over her desk, just sitting there. And I was like, are you OK? And she looked at me. And with these dead eyes, she said kidney stones. And I was like, I don't know what that means. It was sophomore health. Raised my hand. What is a kidney stone? Got that rundown. And it was like, whoa. I had that is something I do not want. No, I had-- In the military, you can cross train between careers at certain points. And I had this crusty, old security forces. NCO who had become an officer. And when he became an officer, he left security forces and moved over to Intel. One of the toughest dudes I've ever met in my entire life and been deployed with him later. Are you whispering? No, my tongue is sticking to the roof of my mouth. I don't know why I'm super dehydrated. Well, I have a reason why I believe to be the case as to why. But he was one of the toughest dudes I've ever met in my entire life. And when we're going through tech school, he had kidney stones. And when I say he had kidney stones, I mean plural. And he had-- he saved them in like a little jar afterwards. It's a weird thing to keep. Yeah. I don't want to ask the question. Bro? Does he have like all of the teeth that he lost as a kid? No. Like what kind of weirdo is this? What kind of efforts is this guy going into to retrieve those kidney stones? I don't know. Like come out. He's like, oh, there it is. [LAUGHTER] I've never had them. I don't know. I don't think they come out cleanly. I think you have to like-- No, I have no idea. It sounds miserable, though. But every single person on top of the edges and-- Yes, and this thing is like what he showed me were like small thirds of marbles. And I went, but that doesn't come out? That hole doesn't work like that. No, no, and this is why the human body is amazing. I was just like, what? Yeah. But I mean, this reduced him to like a fetal child. It was insane. Yeah. I-- I-- For weeks-- Well, yeah, try to squeeze a dodecahedron out of a round hole. Right? Care than one. Yeah, OK, yep, that went back to geometry for that one. Yeah, it was a world of Warcraft, you know, Dungeons and Dragons 20 side of dye. Nope. But it took literally one of only the five toughest, hard-nosed people I've ever met my entire life and reduced him to nothing. Takes you down. Takes you down. A month. Takes you down, dude. It was insane. Yeah. So that guy and that girl I went to high school with, same sees, you know, the exact same. And that kidney stones-- nope, I don't want to mess with those. I don't-- I don't deal with that. Nope, I don't want to ever have that. I feel so bad for the people who have kidney stones. I feel like we need to give kidney stones more credit. I don't think kidney stones get enough credit. On the Vancouver 4 text line, dude, I work with as a kidney stone that size and doctors said it's trying to come through vertically, not the good way. That would be horizontally. That'd be horizontally. And I don't think there's a good way either way, but vertically, definitely not. I feel like diagonal would be probably that one or hurt too. I don't feel good. That just feels like-- what is it? Season two of the boys. Gosh. I don't-- I still haven't made it through season one. I'm going to do a couple episodes in. I keep forgetting about it. Shout outs to all the kidney stone survivors. Shout outs to all the mothers that have given birth. And Tanya-- Totally the same thing. --who apparently gave birth before this show. I did record time. Yeah. I know exactly how we got here. I'm not proud of it. [LAUGHTER] Oh, we got a lot that we got to get to today. We start the round of 16 in the rivalry trophy. Tournament? Tournament? Bracket showdown? Bracket showdown. Palooza. Thing in my bobber. How about that? All right. Very technical. Well, we got the round of 16 today. Then we have a lot of college NFL football. It's cut day around the NFL. Actually, some names too. Trades, names. But a bunch of trades. Yeah. And that is a little different. Yeah. Team's going, yeah. We don't got that guy. We got some trades that we need to get to. And we have some Portland to basketball news. There you go. How about that? Yeah. Where we got to start this bad boy off? Let's get off of this conversation as quickly as we can. Yeah, good luck. New conference, same problems. And this is it for me, folks. This is it. Danny and Dusty on the fan. I think this is it, Danny. This is it. If they don't figure this out, I'm done with Comcast Xfinity. Oh, yeah. They have a career issue with the Big Ten Network now. Out of nowhere, weird. So crazy. The week right before the season starts. So where have I seen this before? Here's the yeah, right. The Portland Trailblazers last November, you can look at. You can also look at, I don't know, you know, the Pac-12 network with their career issues. But this was not a Comcast issue. This was a direct TV issue. This is a cable television issue. So what is happening is that on the West Coast schools to the Big Ten, Comcast Xfinity customers have pulled carriage of the Big Ten network for Oregon, Washington, USC, and UCLA customers. If you are in zip codes associated with those four schools, including-- So the LA market is in that? LA market. Interesting. OK, because I had only seen that the Oregon market watch the market were for sure. If you look at-- They're just cutting off their nose to spike their face at this point. So yesterday, UW men's soccer was supposed to be on the Big Ten network. And when folks turned on, it said, Comcast Xfinity is not carrying Oregon, UCLA, USC, Washington games on the Big Ten network in your area. Take action now. Call 1-800-COMCAST or www.allhuskiesgames.com. And then they have a little QR code because it was obviously a Washington soccer game in that regard. There is a website that you can go to to see if you are going to be blacked out or not. It's called allbtngames.com. If you go to allbtngames.com and you put in your zip code, you can find out if you will be blacked out or not. And I just put mine in. Sorry, you are missing certain Big Ten network live events. As am I. So this is-- and by the way, the Big Ten has responded to this in the Big Ten network. Oh, they did, because they hadn't earlier. Yeah. The Big Ten network is proud to present an expanded slate of live sporting events featuring the newest members of the Big Ten conference. However, most Comcast subscribers will not see these games. As the one distribution partner that declined to expand along with us, Comcast Xfinity viewers in many areas will not have access to live broadcasts of the highly anticipated inaugural Big Ten season games for Oregon, UCLA, USC, and Washington. Like, this is one of the most infuriating things. And this is not a Big Ten issue, obviously. It's not a Pac-12 issue. Or look, the Denver Nuggets couldn't be seen by-- what was the percentage of people in Colorado? That was like less than 10% could watch games on Altitude. And the owner of the Nuggets owns Altitude. It's carriage fees negotiations. It's quite literally hard-line, like, communist stance of like, I have X amount of money that I will spend, like, I mean, I'm a full-on Cold War. I have this amount that I will spend to pay for this, and I will not spend a dollar more or penny more because it sets precedent. And that's what all of these contracts are negotiated on. Well, that's why the Pac-12 network wasn't on direct TVs because direct TV was saying, I'm not going-- we're not going to pay this much per customer for the Pac-12 network, and Comcast affinity did. And they're like, you're not going to let somebody else carry this for cheaper than what we're carrying it for. And that was the whole ordeal with direct TV. I think if I remember right, the number was $3.40 per subscriber that Comcast got in at. And the other providers would not go above-- I think it was $2.90 per subscriber, which is a chasm. And when you're talking about per subscriber, and you're talking about thousands of people, you're talking 50 cents per customer right there. And it's just an insane amount of money. And that's-- when the mediator came in, I believe it was supposed to be something like $3.10. And it was amenable by both sides. But no, like, there was like-- there was give and take that they just wouldn't allow for. And it was-- it ended up being direct TV saying that they wanted it at $3.05 and $3.10. And anyway, very, very specific lines were drawn in the sand and they said, hell no. And so Comcast's infinity was the only-- the only partner that did not pick up the Big Ten network with the expansion. Maybe people will stop yelling at the trailblazers now about Comcast last year, thinking that the blazers had anything to do with it. Because this is Comcast's MO now. Look what they're doing. Look what they're doing a week before the season. Does this sound vaguely familiar? And yeah, but it's intentional. So basically, what your options are now, you can do YouTube TV, direct TV, Fubo, right? Yeah, probably maybe like the Hulu. But also, you'd like to say that your voice matters in that if you reach out, something is going to change. But we saw that with direct TV. It really didn't matter, unless you come out in masses. And everybody files that complaint, logs the complaint. And I don't know if that's going to even be enough. But this is the disheartening thing, is that we have this new shiny toy, and then it's just like, nope. And they're going to say, all right, go through that dog and pony show of changing services. And with the amount of money that we're already paying, if the Big Ten network is not available, yeah. I'm going to leave, because all of a sudden doesn't make sense for me to pay this much money and not get the sports and the teams that we want to see. You and I both have the everything packages from Comcast. Because we have to because it's part of our job. But if all of a sudden you don't have the ability to provide that which we don't need it, spoiler, you won't need it for the trailblazers going forward. Hey, oh, that's great news. You can have basically whatever service or non-service. If you just want to go rabbit ears, they're going to have it over the air stream and they're going to have a direct-to-consumer option. I'll have more on that in the next week or so. But the landscape has changed so much now, particularly in this market, that I don't even think Comcast is a viable option anymore. It feels that way. I mean, it really does feel that way. It's like, are you serious? This is-- Yeah, yeah, I am with you. And it is so frustrating at every turn, you feel like it's getting worse, right? I get the bludgeoning because of Portland, Seattle, and you can kind of put them over the barrel and it's in little markets in the northwest that you can be like, well, you're going to deal with this. You're going to take this right hike. Doing it to the LA market? That's ballsy. But that was also member Dodgers games, right? That's right, with Spectrum, with Warner Spectrum. I mean, that was a big issue down there. I mean, this is something-- Which is the same thing. This is nothing new to any market, any size, any region, either, except for like in Philly, New York, where they will literally shank you if you don't have all of their games. Yes, but also Spectrum is spending $140 million a year on the Lakers and I think 110 on the Dodgers. How much for Hawaii football? I don't know, but also, you couldn't watch that Saturday night unless you rode the high seas. Nah. See, I didn't watch a lick of Hawaii Delaware State and I wanted to. I wanted to get in on the-- Gummy Blackbeard. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Had a bottle of Ramen watch that terrible football. Yeah, so, I don't know, put up a, let's, you know what, maybe let's pull this. Would you change television providers if you could not watch your favorite teams? And I want an honest like assessment of this because I don't know, the numbers will tell us, people didn't do that with Comcast last year with Root, or they did do that. Actually, by not upgrading their packaging, they just said, yeah, I'm not, it's not worth a watch in the blazer anymore. Not gonna do it. Yeah, but now they're messing with football. Now you're messing with football. And look, this should be a week. I am riding high. I'm riding high all week, baby. Like this should be, I should have no worries. Well, you never have to worry about-- I'm a koonamatata right now. You also never have to worry about watching duck games. But I do wanna watch, like, I record, 'cause I'm a psycho, I record all of the other games so I can watch USC, I can watch UCLA, I can watch you Dub, and make sure that I know what's going on with those teams as well. Why don't we have condensed college football games yet? We do, do we? Pac-12 and 60 had it. It was great. Big 10 does it too. Did the Big 10 have it? Yeah, they do condensed games. It's fantastic. Yes. You go watch it, a whole football game is 60 minutes. Day after, I would love to do that with a couple of games. Yeah, the turnaround is like two days after. Of course. So you gotta hit those early. Gotta get those early. But yeah, they got 'em. They got 'em, they got 'em. All right, 5038646326. That is Vancouver Ford tax line. Your dollar goes further. I thank you for Ford. They treat you right before, during and after the sale. Visit 'em online at YouTube, or at VancouverFord.com. I was reading this. Just yesterday, I decided to switch to YouTube TV because Comcast had gotten too expensive and I didn't even have the Big 10 network. So they've had, uh-oh, uh-oh, it went away. So I had to pay more to upgrade. And then today, I see the news and even if I had upgraded, I wouldn't have been able to see the dot games. Makes me even more happy now that I'm switching. Another one on your organ fan, or organ give fans a discount coupon for a, for a year free in the Big 10 app shortly earlier this month before this happens. So that kind of gives you an understanding of like the schools having no idea that this was coming. True debt. Which is again, the same way this happened last year. I think, look man, it's like, XFINITY has been pretty shady with how they've handled this. Yeah. I'll be blunt. It's this and last year. Like I get that this, this, this business is so cutthroat, but continually screwing over customer bases is just not. Yep. It's not a way to get it done. All right. Go vote at Danny and Dusty. The poll is up. The poll is, there's a lot of polls that we need you to vote on today. We got the right best rivalry trophy. You can go to @dannymarang at Dusty_Hara @dannyandusty on Twitter as well. Eight match ups, 16 teams. Wow, we're gonna have to fly through those today. We do have some Portland basketball news. We do. Of the professional variety. Professional variety basketball news. A bit of a surprise. That, after rust, was Sports Center. ♪ Believe in America ♪ All right, Spartanborough has a legitimate question here on the Vancouver Fort Tech sign. He says, "Will I get those games with my Comcast "because he's a Spartan fan? "He's Spartanborough, Spartan fan, Michigan State. "He loves them." Yeah, this is the expanded coverage. So it's only the four schools that are involved in expanding-- As long as they're not playing any of those teams. Yeah, right, which not so fast, my friend. I don't. Yeah, they play Oregon. I don't know who else else they play. But let's see, Michigan State, really quick. You will be able to see all but one game. Yeah, it says just Oregon, right? Yeah, but you'll be able to see that game 'cause it's on Fox. So their first three games are on the Big Ten network. But that's the thing that sucks too about this is Oregon debuts on the Big Ten network Saturday. Like their rollout into the Big Ten is a 430 kick against Idaho on the Big Ten network. It's purposeful. They know what they're doing. That sucks. And yesterday it was UW Soccer, debuting the Big Ten network. Nothing. It is kind of funny that we find out via the UW Soccer that this was the thing. Yeah, and it took like over 12 hours for people to be like, "Oh, yeah." All right. I guess that's gonna impact something else too. Wow. Okay, on to other news. The Rip City remix have named a new head coach. Sergei Oliva is the new head coach of the Rip City remix. You may know him as Assistant General Manager of the Portland Trailblazers. Yeah, no, this is a really, it's an interesting hire. I know the blazers went after a couple of different people and then they came back to Sergey who he's worked as a coach before on the bench with Brett Brown in Philadelphia and Quinn Steider in Utah. Very, very, very smart guy. Personally, I mean, I really like him. I think he's a guy that's very innovative. He thinks about things differently like without going into too much. I was talking to him right after they drafted Don McLingan in the press conference. And I was like, "So what's your best case outlook scenario for him?" And I'm like, "What do you think on all the shooting and all that kind of stuff?" And he's like, "Look, everybody makes a big deal about whether or not he can shoot." The only time that that really changes is if you're in the NBA Finals and you need to pull a guy two more feet out of the rim or out of the paint. That in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter if he ends up being like what they think he can be defensively, which is in a very, very, very high level rebounder, shop locker, rim protector, paint patrolling guy. The three point shooting is a bonus. Like that's, so many people want to talk about what players can't do. And Sergey's one of those guys that is more of like, what can a player do? But I think that matters when you're talking about evaluation and development. - He is a very smart man. He has a PhD in computational complexity and a master's in computer science. - Yes. - From Polytechnic University of Catalonia. Damn, smart guy. - Yes, crazy. - Very smart man. He's got the catalog accent too, which makes him sound even smarter. - Awesome. You know what I mean? - Yeah. Well, this would be interesting. I just wonder if, so his value to that front office as the assistant GM was talent evaluation and draft projections, both foreign and domestic players. - He did. A lot of modeling stuff too, like computation modeling, not like walking the runway. - Well, I could see that as computational complexity being a PhD. - So like, he, I remember the Utah Jazz have one of the better analytics departments in all of basketball. Corey Jazz used to run their analytics department. If you're wondering, kind of, you're starting to draw lines of the connections. Where was Sergey with jazz, Corey Jazz with jazz? Like, okay. So he's kind of a jack of all trades. Everybody wants to put somebody into a box, kind of like what they do. Don't get me wrong. They're like, "This is very much concentrated on scouting." That's a thing. And they have somebody in their department in the front office that is focused on international scouting. And somebody who's focused on the CBA. Sergey does a lot of things, historically, has done things across the board. And we're like, "Well, if he's not doing that, who is?" Well, the Blazers have a monstrous front office now. It is not running like it was under Neil Olshay when they had four people. They have a significantly bigger front office. I'm not worried about impacting that at all. What is interesting is-- He will be returning to that role once a remix season is over and it is not nearly as long as the NBA season is. And on top of that, this is only going to be a one-year deal. And now everybody wants to be like, "Well, it's because of Chauncey. Chauncey's fully on board with this. Him and Chauncey are actually close." So I do think that it does at least forecast and pretty sizable overhauls in the organization in a year, which duh, duh. Because if they end up with a top three pick and they end up with Cooper or Ace or Dylan or Vijay or whatever it is, there's going to be a pivot. Who's going to be the coach? Who, how is development going to work? Who's going to be here long-term? That's when you start really making moves. This is-- It was like, "Well, you should get everything lined up." No, you shouldn't because you don't know who you're building around. - Yeah. - That's the thing about this. So if they want to start trying things and getting data and development and being weird with things you might try, now's the time because you don't look at the Spurs. They got weird in year one with Webby and then kind of like leading into that. Now what have they done? They're tightening everything down. They're making sure the runway makes sense. Like everything's being done. You can get weird until you get the guy. Right now, the players just don't have that guy and they can get weird for a year. - All right, well, we'll see how this one goes, but it is an interesting move. You're taking a guy from the front office, but look, we also remember this is kind of how guys, I don't know, diversify their resumes, if you will in the NBA. - Yeah, Sir uses but as diversifies it again. - Do you remember when, what was it? Danny Ainge, didn't he make his kid, the coach of the main lobsters or whatever, red claws or whatever they are? And I think he ended up winning a G League title with them and he was like, what is he doing? Well, it's all about development and kind of an eye to see what the path of a guy in the ear front office could take. And being a coach is actually something that, if a guy wants to work up and be a general manager in the NBA, having coaching experience on a bench is something that is useful. And this isn't completely unheard of. This isn't one of those instances that ultimately fans will say, what are the players doing? They have no idea the direction of their franchise. - This kind of stuff happens all of the time in the NBA, where you take an assistant GM and you slide them into a different role with the G League team, or you take a guy who is wanting to be an assistant coach on the NBA level and you say, all right, go run a G League team. - Danny Connors, they're GM used to, was working in the Blazers front office. Now he's the GM for the G League team. - You bounce back and forth between the roles so you can get an idea of how the other side of things work. And this is no different. There's a lot of reasons why we can sit there and be like, bah, Blazers, they just don't get it. This one isn't one of them. It'll be interesting to see how it goes and how it affects, I guess, the process of whether it's draft scouting, what it looks like in juggling both of those jobs as G League head coach, while still being the assistant GM. But you seem to think that this won't be affected by it at all. - Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be anything. It's gonna have a long-term impact as far as any kind of negative impact at all. - All right, basketball coverage on the fan is presented by T-Mobile. Switch to T-Mobile and you can get tons of benefits and still save on every plan versus AT&T and Verizon. Use their savings calculator to find out how at T-Mobile.com slash switch. That's T-Mobile.com slash switch. This is Danny Dusty on the fan. ♪ You're the best ♪ ♪ Around ♪ ♪ Nothing's going ♪ - Yeah, karate kid, what a great movie. - I don't know how you don't get fired up here in this song. ♪ But keep me down ♪ - Yeah. And the Blazers should do that. They should do that instead of the big unveil, like where they have the video and they bring the lights down. You bring the lights down, you have the spot like just like it is the, what's the name of the tournament? Oh gosh. - Oh, the, that's the all-valley tournament. - Yeah, the all-valley tournament. - Yeah. - You set up center court like it's the all-valley tournament and you bring out each player to the, ♪ You're the best ♪ ♪ Around ♪ ♪ You're the best ♪ - Huh? - I can make it. - Yeah. - You know one thing that always bought me about that. - Chauncey Billups, y'all. - Put him in a body bag, Johnny. - Yeah. Another one thing that always bugged me about the end of that movie. - Scoot Henderson comes out dressed up as a shower. Instead of his warm-up suit. He's out there in a shower. - One of the biggest rules of the tournament is no strikes to the face yet how does, how does Daniel LaRuso win at the end? - You don't, don't, don't. That was a kick to the chest. You just misremembered how he kicked him. - Oh, is that what it was? - Yeah. - It happened so fast. You thought it was the face, but it wasn't. - You know, don't, just peeing in people's Cheerios over there, Jeff Rust ruining people's days. - Call it later. - How much potty talk are you gonna have on this show today? - Speaking of kicks. - Yeah. - I had a just quick derail moment. - Mm-hmm, no way. - The TikTok algorithm every now and then serves me up a fight video. - Okay, ooh. - And a guy got out of a Chevy Cavalier, which if you were getting out of a Chevy Cavalier in 2024, the year of our Lord, whatever you said, you're right. - Yeah, win? - When did he stop making that? - Yeah. - And he was about 6'4" and this guy was talking all kinds of spicy, put his hands up like he's about to do something, did like the reload arms from Henry Cavill on Mission Impossible, like he was about that life. And this guy did not look like he was formally trained. He came out with a sidekick that kicked the dude just at the bottom of the throat and right at the chest and folded him like a lawn chair, but not all the way to the ground because he caught an uppercut on the next one and I went, when was the last time outside of a UFC cage you saw somebody like actually land a kick that wasn't like a wild flail? - Yeah, the confidence. - Oh man. - To just come out with a kick to the chest is like. - One two hard steps sidekick, I mean, flexibility. - But bam. - Accuracy? I mean, we got to be flexible to get in and out of the Cavalier, which was last made 20 years ago. The last model was 2005, which means it came out in 2004. So that would be 20 calendar years. This guy is driving a car that at its newest is 20 years old. - It's probably like a '02. - This guy, yeah, you don't mess with that guy. - 'Cause I mean, have you ever seen somebody get it? Have you ever seen somebody driving a Cavalier? - All right, let's go down the list. You got cauliflower here? - Nope. - Big ol' forearms? - Nope. - You got the Popeye forearms. - Popeye forearms do not, that was one thing when I went to college, my dad said never fight a man with cauliflower here or massive forearms. I said, okay, those punches land different. And then Chevy Cavalier. - We have those three. - And then the fourth one is Balkan or Polynesian. - Yeah. - Don't just don't go down that path. - Yeah. - If they are from like, if they are from either a war-torn region in former Soviet Union or a Polynesian island, don't go down that path. You won't like how it goes. - All right. - Just. - Okay. - It's, it's, it's, look, if they look like Nick Peckovich or a Lodi Nada, don't go down the path. - Yeah. - I mean, you've seen Yokech's brothers. - You're basically saying, if you can't read their name easily the first time. - If they, if they both have a crap ton of vowels in their name, no, no. - Okay. - Yeah, I think that's, those are good rules. Those are four rules. - Very solid rules. - To win a fight or have a chance in a fight. - If they get out of a car that hasn't been made and it's not because it's like a collector or hot rod, but it's because it just didn't work. - Yeah. - Then that's usually somebody that's, doesn't really care. - Nothing to lose. - Yeah. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? - You don't want to do that. - Definitely, definitely doesn't have a car note. Like you're not worried about, you know, like having to pay some fines because he beat the crap out of somebody. - No. - That's just not really worried about like, I can ditch this car, I'm fine. - Yeah. - You know. - If I had, if I had to rip the plates off this thing and drive it off a cliff and or into a river, am I, am I lost? No. You know, I just. - Dang. - I prefer to not go down that path. - Okay. - I think, I think those are all very safe and good rules of engagement. Cauliflower, full, forearms that are large, drives a Chevy Cavalier or like vehicle, right? And then not of the Balkans or Polynesian. - Yeah. With the Geo Metro that's so sun-baked, like you can't tell the original color. - Yeah. Yeah. - Just, you know, just don't go down that path. - Okay. - I think it's fair. - There's a car that's easily burnable or easily disposable and nobody will notice. Just don't go down that path. - Easily burnable? Like he's gonna kick you in the chest and set his car on fire. - Well, like I'm saying, he's gonna be the crap that he's throwing in there and set it on fire. - Yeah, that's crazy. - You know what I mean? I don't deal with tacos. So. - Have you, if you were speaking, again, speaking TikTok videos, have you seen the freshwater divers? - No. - I have no idea what you're talking about. - So there's these people that like, they dive in rivers and lakes and ponds, like full scuba gear. - Okay. - Just looking for stuff. - Yeah. - There's one dude that has found multiple cars with bodies in them. - Yeah, I, whoa, that's not cool. - Yeah, like, that's a find. I've seen like the guys who do like the magnet, like they'll go out with the big old magnet and they'll be like, "Hey, check this out, oh, gun!" You're like, "Well, yeah, you're on a bridge." - Yeah, call the cops 'cause it was throwing off a bridge on purpose. - Yeah. - So you stick to the rivers and lakes that you're used to. - Exactly. - Well, I mean, we're used to the Willamette and you're gonna find some stuff in that. - Well, man, I wonder, I wonder what's at the bottom of that river underneath the bridges. - Don't wanna know. Don't wanna know. - There's a couple skeletons at least. - Yeah, you'll get caught up in some stuff. You're not ready or about that life for. - Oh, imagine. - All right. We wrap up our number one. We had a poll up. Would you change TV streaming providers if you couldn't watch your team? 85.8% say yes. 14.2% say, "Nah, nah." So that's an interesting one. That's an interesting one. And we got a lot of victory laps coming around on the Vancouver Fort Tech's line and on the Twitter poll from the Beaves and the Cougs saying, "You know, Jason, Jake, good thing. "My Cougs are on the CW, let's go pack two!" And then Kevin, the Orngo guy, doesn't matter if my games are on CW. Also, Oregon rent is due. I don't understand that last part. But, and then we got a lot of techs on the Vancouver Fort Tech's line saying, "Hey, man." Beaves, Cougs, they get that CW action. You'll know exactly where to find them. It's channel three, bruh. Remember that was the WB, too. Following the one tree hill marathon. Yeah, it's a pretty good lead-in. Daria used to do the weather. Oh, yeah, that's right. Remember Daria used to do the weather on the WB. I do remember that. There was, the WB/CW had a pretty good lead-in back in the day. It was great. You had some bangers. Yeah, that's where you could find like hanging with Mr. Cooper was on the WB, I remember. What was the big teenage winter hill? Yeah. Was that the one that took off? Dawson's Creek. Dawson's Creek, that's it, yeah. Dawson's Creek, yeah. I remember girls cried. Dawson's Creek ended. I did a little victory lap 'cause I didn't have to hear about it. There you go, never again. Oh my gosh. Never seen a single episode. Oh, really? Yeah, I've seen a few. Unfortunately, I've seen a few. James Vanderbeek and his oddly-shaped head. I don't want your life. Man, for an oddly-shaped head, the guys made some good money. Oh, yeah. Been some classics, too. Varsity Blues. And? What? You said classics. And Dawson's Creek. Oh, okay. I mean, he hits the dudes and the chicks right there with like those two. It's like Venn Diagram of awesome. It's like James Vanderbeek's in the middle of it. Full on office space, two at the same time. Yeah. (laughing) We made a million bucks, yeah. (laughing) I do believe you'd get your ass kicked for saying something like that. I'll tell you what, that may be added to the list, too. Drywallers. Drywallers. If they could hang eight-foot sheets with one hand. They're gonna do not want to drop you really easily. So number five, we've completed the hand with drywallers. Hey, thanks, man. The neighbor from office space. Good old Dietrich Bader. All right, Baderman, turn it on, channel nine. (laughing) All right, let's get back on track here, shall we? Who do you think the most overrated teams over the last decade are? From the pre-season rankings to the final polls? Danny Dusty on the fan. 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Look, we're cruising already. - Today has full bike. - We've already given you five rules of people that you don't wanna fight, okay? - We had clarification on one of them. - Yeah, we have cauliflower ear, big forearms, a Balkan and/or Polynesian fellers. You have dry wallers and then the Chevy Cavalier driver. This text came in during last segment. I was a proud Chevy Cavalier owner. Learned to drive on that bad boy. FYI, no radio or side mirror. Jason Succanic. - Hey! - Big Suque was a Chevy Cavalier owner and that goes back to the, they got nothing to lose. You're probably gonna get beat up by them, right? I mean, he fits the mold of exactly what we're talking about with the Chevy Cavalier. So, there you have it. Don't do that. Don't do that. Not so fast, my friend. Something that we're gonna have to get to at some point. I heard promotions got us Tara out there. Her phone rang. She has a ringtone still. - Oh? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, Harry Styles. The... ♪ Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun ♪ - I got ringtones. - You got ringtones? - I got, and some of them vary based on who's calling me. - Yeah, I know we hear from time to time the shakakani. - Yep, that's my text. - That's your text that come through. - Yeah. So, what, my regular ringtone, it's George Costanza's answering machine. - I can't tell you the last time, really. I can't tell you the last time I had a ringtone. I can't tell you the last time my phone wasn't on vibrate. - When my daughter calls, it's Adam Sandler's. It's the hogies and grinders, hogies and grinders. - Okay. - The old sandwich. - Wow. - You're still a big ringtone guy. You have ringtones on your phone? - And my wife, it's the Imperial death march from Star Wars. - That sounds about right. - No, so one time when I was flying back and forth to the Middle East, I had a layover in England. And in my hotel room, this is 2004, I think, if you think the commercials here for ringtones were bad, do you remember those commercials? - Yeah, you've told the story, yeah, yeah. - It was nothing but those ringtone commercials for like five hours. - Yeah. - And ever since that moment, I was like, no, never, never again will I ever, ever, ever, ever, have a ringtone on my phone. - Yeah, there was a broken. - There was a time in my life where like Russ, everybody had their own ringtone, but then I just said, oh, vibrate works just as good. - Totally fine. - And I can ignore people and that's fine. You know, I have an out. Fun's on vibrate, nope, sorry. I think I've been, my phone has been on vibrate for a decade now. - The only time-- - Probably a decade. - I will take it off vibrate is if I have it out of my pocket on the table and I'm expecting a call that I know that I wanna answer 'cause I'm working on something, just so that I don't miss it. - Right. - That is literally the only thing. - Yeah, that's interesting. Best ringtone I've ever heard in my life was, there was a softball double header owner in college and our starting pitcher, her dad, we ran into him at the game, we were talking with him and we didn't live too far away in between games. He goes, you guys wanna grab beer? And I was like, yup. So we went and we were over at our house. We had a few pops with the pops of the softball pitcher and all of a sudden, Buck Cherry starts playing. Oh, she's a crazy bitch. He's like, oh, wife's calling. (laughing) And we're like, yes! Turns out we were late for his daughter's start so we had to hustle back to the stadium. - Does she know that's the ringtone? - Yeah, oh yeah, she knows, she knows. And so it became a tradition. It became a tradition anytime he was in town. You know, we threw back a few with the old man. - The old buck cherry. - The old buck cherry. - What? (laughing) - If you had your own ringtone for you, on somebody else's phone, what would you want it to be? - Oh, wow. Friends in low places, that fits me pretty well. - Oh, Chuck Mangione over here. - Yeah, of course it is. Of course it's Chuck Mangione. - Feel so good, baby. God, I feel like it'd have to be metal, right? - Yeah, yours would be like something called the silent crippling death, something like that. - Or like the, bury me alive. - Or like either the sax solo or the guitar solo for Baker Street. - Oh, look at you. You had that holstered. - Yeah, that's my pin tweet too on my timeline from our old, remember our old walk up videos from the Trailblazers' pollstays? - Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right. - It's been pinned there for a while. - Yeah, that was back, that was right at the beginning of when they started doing like the walk in shots of players entering the arena. All right, well, Brett McMurphy of the Action Network, do you have your song yet? Were you googling your songs? - No, I was looking at my Spotify. - Oh. - What would it be you know now? - Probably be when darkness falls. - Okay. - Yeah, yeah, that fitting for you, that works. - Well, kill switch. - Just real quick, one little squirrel moment. - Yep. - Oregon State Athletics has, well, not necessarily fired a shot, but trolling, put out of graphic, Oregon State football, available nationwide, even on Comcast. - As they should. - Yeah, have your fun with it. - As they should. All right, Brett McMurphy of the Action Network, he compiled a list of the most overrated and underrated college football teams based on pre-season rankings, okay? He went back to the inception of the college football playoff, the most overrated and underrated teams compared to the AP pre-season rankings and the AP final rankings, okay? Who would you think is the most overrated team in all of college football based on their pre-season rankings? - My first thought was Texas. - Texas, they are top 10, they are top 10, they come in at sixth on the list. - And then my team. - USC is number two on that list. - Yeah, 'cause they had three years when they are the top 10 that they didn't finish in the top 25. - Yikes. - Well, they don't hold the candle to Auburn. - Yeah. - Auburn is the most overrated team in college football over the last decade based on their pre-season rankings and where they finish in the AP final poll. - They're still carrying a lot of water for Cam Newton. - That era. - Yeah, well, and in there is that Gus Malzahn era where the expectations were always high. Look, to be honest. - They were good. - Well, Bonix is tenure in Auburn, it was this is the year and it never was. - They were good, just not that good. - So the top five are Auburn at number one. USC number two, the Wisconsin Badgers, Paul Christera, is number three. Texas A&M is at fourth. I thought that Texas A&M would be higher but they never were starting at a high point. They would always kind of be in that middle range of the top 25 and always kind of live there. - Yeah, and they would live there. Number five is LSU. Number six, the Texas Longhorns. Number seven, the Oregon Ducks. - Quack, quack. - Number eight, the Oklahoma Sooners. - These next two I thought would be higher. - Yeah, Miami is number nine. Florida State is number 10. - Yeah, I would have thought both of those teams would have been higher. - Yeah, that's a cause of them not being up higher to begin with. - And I think with both of those two teams, if you're only judging this off the preseason in the final polls, both, they make sense when you think Miami and Florida State would always have a win early where Miami's back, this is Florida State's year and then the wheels start to come off a little bit, right? - Yeah. - And I think that's kind of the reasoning behind that. The most underrated teams in college football, I thought that this was even more fascinating than the most overrated teams in college football. - I just want to say right away. - Yeah. - Is there something that popped up to you in this group at all, first glance? - I mean, nothing, I thought Oregon State would be on the most underrated. - But also-- - But they were not there. - It's so many cats, wild cats, bear cats, tigers, wild cats, wild cats, cougars, it's just cats. - Yeah, I didn't think about that. - I was like, why the hell are there so many cat teams up here? Do we enter it? - There's no, there's just a lot of cat mascots. - The wild cat, I believe, is the most popular mascot in college sports. - But the only cat, it's a wild cat, by the way, is not a vicious cat. We should have like, I mean, cougars are way more-- - The only cat in the top 24 of the most-- - In the forest and the bar. - Overrated, there you go. Are the tigers of both Clemson and Auburn? Otherwise, but it's like all of the underrated cats are all in-- - All right. - Well, it's weird. - Now we have that. Number one most underrated team in college football is Northwestern, wild cats. Number two is Cincinnati. Number three, TCU. Number four, Missouri. Number five, Kentucky. Obviously, these are not the Blue Blood programs that get that label stuck to them of being perennially in that top 15. Name recognition gets you in the top 15. And if you could look at both Cincinnati and TCU, those are bolstered by college football playoff runs where they literally came out of nowhere. And as you go from unranked to a top four team by the end of the year, that is gonna skew your standing significantly. And Northwestern is always a team that nobody really gives a crack at being good at the beginning of the year. And they end up nine and four, you know, 10 and three, eight and five. And at the bottom of that top 25 from unranked, the same can be said about both Missouri and Kentucky over the last handful of years with Eli Drinkowitz and Mark Stoops running the show there. Of out west flavor, Arizona is at number seven on that list. - I was surprised there were few Pac-12 teams on here. - Fresno State is 21st. Colorado is 24th, which I don't understand. They had one year. - One year. - And in that year. - And in that year. - Well, I guess they would have two years. - They would have two years. - That's true. - 'Cause they had one Mel Tucker year and then they had, oh gosh. - Who was the white dude that left after, when 2014? - Oh, god dang it. - And then Washington State comes in at 24th as well. We had a tie for 24th of teams that just don't get, they don't give enough, enough love. - McIntire. - Yeah, yeah. - God, I can not remember his name. - McIntire. - Yeah. - Who went to Florida and had that shark incident. And now I believe it's that central Michigan. - I think it's central Michigan. - Yeah, I think it is. - Mike McIntire, the directional Michigan's. - Yeah, yeah. He's playing for one of them trophies. That was in the running in our hotly contested, best rivalry trophies. - Indeed. - They got bounced early though. They got bounced early. But we do have a bunch of teams that we could see falling out of those graces or, look, we could see by the way, you know, this is the problem. And when you look at those overrated teams, the thing about them is they often will start pretty high, whether it's Texas, USC, Oregon, Oklahoma, they start really high. And one bad year skews you significantly in that. - Yeah. - Each of them have had those big hiccups. - The USC had three top 10s where they did not finish the top 25. And that'll pummel you. - Your five most overrated teams based on preseason to final rankings, according Brett McMurphy, the action network and what he looked up over the last decade, Auburn, USC, Wisconsin, Texas, A&M, and LSU, the underrated teams, Northwestern, Cincinnati, TCU, Missouri, and the Kentucky Wildcats. All right, a lot of action has been happening, including a local guy getting outright released today. It is cut day across the NFL. Teams have to trim the rosters down to 53 or 58 now. And then you have trades, which is an odd thing to see, but we have a couple of trades that are making waves across the NFL, Danny and Dusty on the fan. It is cut day across the NFL this day. It's such an interesting day because you think of a lot of these moves as basically just an afterthought of what is going on in the landscape of the NFL. But the reality of it is that there's gonna be 1,000 guys by the end of the day that their dream is coming to an end, right? And there's this unrest and uncertainty about what their future and what their careers all hold in front of them because you get cut from an NFL roster. You don't know when the next time that phone is going touring again. It could have been the last time you've ever had a helmet and cleats and gone out on the football field. And so it's always one of those days that I try to make sure we mentioned that it's, this is people's lives being turned upside down, which is wild to think about. But there's also a lot of guys, and I think why the conversations are so interesting about this is that there's a lot of guys that are gonna get those extra shots and extra opportunities because some really talented players that are seeing the door, right? - Yeah, well, and also a handful of these guys too, will wind up being brought back like to the practice squad. - Yep, yep, because, and that's one of the good things that the NFL has done is that you can put some veterans on the practice squad now and not guys that are just hanging on clinging for life and you never have any, you have no inkling that you're gonna play him ever. - Yeah. - But you need warm bodies and they could only be so old back then, well now you can backfill it with some vets but you say, all right, somebody gets hurt, we actually can play him and be serviceable and he can know what we're doing and we can hit the ground running. - Absolutely. - One guy that got cut locally, this was a bit of a surprise to me just based on, I thought people would still wanna hold on to what could be. With Isaiah Hodgens, the Oregon State product, Corvallis High, you get, he's only 25 years old, he's been in a league now for three seasons and I thought Isaiah Hodgens was gonna be a no brainer as to what he would be in the NFL. He would be a productive possession receiver, we saw him flash for spurts in Buffalo and then he goes over, he gets traded to the New York Giants and today he was cut and I was a little surprised to see his production not being as much as I thought it would be and some guys, sometimes guys that you think of being highly touted and are explosive playmakers, the NFL is so hard because you just don't know, he was a sixth round pick and again he had those flashes, I remember vividly a game in Buffalo, I think it was like 2022 where he kind of went off and he had a game where he came up with some big catches on the goal line, but just was never able to latch on and have everything that clicks with him and he was just cut today by the New York Giants. - Well sometimes too, sometimes Stephen just comes down to a guy's fit within a system and whether it's an offensive scheme or just even fit with the coaching staff. - Yep, yeah and he can come to an end just that quickly and then he has- - And then go thrive somewhere else, you know what I mean? - Yeah, yeah, he'll be interesting, he's only 25 and he's a big body guy, he's gonna have opportunities obviously, his phone will ring at some point and you'll get picked up, but I just thought Isaiah Hodgens was gonna be a more reliable, consistent receiver in the NFL and it just hasn't panned out that way and that's why he was a sixth round pick. A guy that was very highly touted and boy, his miscues were exacerbated was Kidarius Tony released by the Kansas City Chiefs. The no brainer of no brainers where you saw him fall out of the good graces of Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reed and the rest of the Chiefs offense over the course of last season, he's on the outs with the Kansas City Chiefs and that's a guy that like, you think about him, I don't know who's gonna roll that, somebody will. - Yeah, somebody will, but. - Because of the speed and just one thing you cannot, you cannot teach and maybe they go, he is a product of the environment and maybe he just didn't understand it, but if you are not thriving with Andy Reed, in Patrick Mahomes, I don't know where you thrive. - Right, yeah, well, and you know, kind of an important part of being a wide receiver is being able to catch the ball. - Yeah, when you're open, when you're open, especially and staying on side. - That too. - Yeah, commander's released to Martavis Bryant, heard that in your update, he hasn't played in the NFL in. - 2018. - She's the least, six seasons. He could have been the comeback story of the year in the NFL, but he was in the substance abuse program in the NFL for six years, finally gets out, gets that chance, you were hoping that something good would happen for him, not the case with him and that may be the end of the road for Martavis Bryant. - Frank Gore Jr. was released by the Buffalo Bills. - That was a surprise, I didn't expect to see that. - Well, you had 100 yards rushing over the weekend. - Yeah. - Not only that. - And you don't got running backs in Buffalo. - Yeah, so you don't have running backs and it's not like you're just gonna go find one that's gonna help you all of a sudden. You know what I mean? - Going out the scrap, maybe they just feel that comfortable with Cook this year. Maybe this is the year. - Uh-huh, yeah. - And then we've had a couple of trades that have gone down in the NFL. - Head scratching trades. Well, the Titans pick up Ernest Jones. - That one makes sense. - In a trade with the Rams. - Yeah, the Rams didn't like that Ernest Jones said something about getting traded and said, "Oh, you wanna be gone?" So they're by. - That was quick. - They were looking for a contract extension. He was looking for a contract extension. He didn't hold out, he was there. Obviously wasn't happy, but the Rams get a fifth round pick in return for Ernest Jones. And you said head scratchers. What one's kind of scratched? - Uh, the Packers training for Malik Willis. - Yeah, to back up Jordan Love. - I just, we saw Malik and it was very bad. Like it was, I don't even think it was like, "Ah, I could see him being a backup." It was really bad. - Well, he's the first round pick and you are bringing him and not to start, but to be somebody that can just be in the shadows behind Jordan Love. - I guess if you want somebody to run your scout who's got some athleticism. - Well, and I don't think, I think there's even a little bit more in that and you have an offensive minded head coach. An offensive minded head coach always thinks, "Well, I can fix him." And was, is Malik Willis a better option than what you had there? Because right now those two are the only two that you have on your depth chart? - I will say selfishly, I'm feeling very blessed, the sour as the Raiders have released Nathan Peterman. - Thank goodness. - It's the Peterman reality tour coming to an end. That is no longer a case. If he wasn't in the practice squad, fine. But if they would have put him on the actual 53-man roster, I would have lost my mind. - And you would have been completely justified. - Justified in losing your mind in that moment. Seahawks, in this may be a sign of the injury to a Nwusu in Seattle, they get Travis Gibson outside linebacker from Jacksonville for a sixth round pick. And they had, they showed that Nwusu had a sprain of his MCL, knee instability, starting the season, needing depth. Seattle goes out and they get Gibson. That's not gonna be one that is a game changer by any stretch of the imagination. But that deal went down yesterday. And you look at just building depth on that defense 'cause you're gonna have to lean on your defense yet again. And I think Mike McDonald, that's exactly the identity that he wants to play with in how they wanna operate. I thought it was weird that Donald Parham got cut by the Los Angeles Chargers. - That was the other one. The team, it's bereft of any kind of assets on the receiving side of things said no to a receiving tight end. - Yeah, they got Will Disli and Hayden Hurst. I bet Hayden Hurst is gonna be the guy that they're gonna rely on to be the receiving threat. Disli's kind of the jack of all trades. - But also, I haven't told those trades been banged up. - Banged up historically, injury history there. - I think a third tight end there seems like maybe a good idea. - Donald Parham too though is been a guy who's habitually hurting. Look, if you don't fit into the mold, one thing that both Disli and Hurst will do with no exception, they'll block. - They'll block it when you have Greg Roman, Jim Harbaugh, that's gonna be the identity of their offense. Just didn't fit kind of schematically what they were gonna do. And Parham was a really good, they have two. But Parham is a really good receiving tight end, a tall guy on the outside in that fit more of what you were doing under Brandon Staley, especially with Kellen Moore as your offensive coordinator. This is a full on regime change and sometimes those guys are the casualties where you go, all right, you got a solid receiving tight end there, they don't need that, they don't want that. They need protection for Gus Edwards and JK Dobbins. Also, significant injury history on those two running backs that are gonna be in your backfield. - Yeah, the other one that got my eye was, not necessarily that it was a weird or wrong, it just kind of like, wow, okay. The Eagles released, here's a couple of guys for ya. Paris Campbell, Will Greer and John Ross. - It's a pretty good little three man seven on seven start. - Remember John Ross, he had the little bit of that ciderious Tony where he was fast. - But just could not catch anything. - Catching ball, very important as a wide receiver. - Being a straight line star can get you, it's like being seven foot in the NBA. I think seven foot will get you there. Running a sub four, two, fourty in the NFL, well it gets you on a lot of fields, but eventually they just kind of go, oh, you're her seem to beat. - Oh, remember, what was his role pick a seem to beat? - Yeah, what was, I remember his girlfriend in her Twitter account more than I remember. I think she had like the Twitter handle, like the Bay Hive or something along those lines. She was a wild card on Twitter. She would be calling out Terry Stott's players, I mean she would call everybody out during games on Twitter. It's like I wonder where she's getting this from. - Yeah, and he was here for what, six months? - Yeah, that was fantastic though. - So weird. - That was, it was, got me a chuckle and those were not great times either. - No, no, those are the figuring things out times. But yeah, cut days, cut days a little bit weird. - Also, there's some names that I did not expect to see. - Well, Desmond Ritter got cut today by the Arizona Cardinals. - That unexpected, I know he just came in the league. - That is very quick to be in and out of the league. - It's, I mean, that is very quick. - Where do you look like that? That's kind of the same thing with Malik. I was like, if you ask me who I think is more viable, I might say Ritter. - Yeah. - Maybe? Gun to my head, it's not a decision I wanna make. - No, I wouldn't go there. - You know? - I wouldn't go there. - Yeah, that's about it. I mean, wow, Felipe Franks got cut by the Carolina Panthers. Remember him, he's a quarterback at Florida. Moved to tight end, now gone. The Pride of Mountain View High School, Jacob Hollister also cut by the Carolina Panthers today as well, that sucks. Local guys hate to see it. And he had a pop with the Patriots a couple of years ago where he looked more than viable as a tight end and it's just so crazy how quickly it can just go to the wayside. The one thing that Hard Knocks was tracking this, this is gonna be a Hard Knocks spoiler, Brett Ripon, not with the Bears any longer. - Aw. - Yeah. - Who'd they keep, is their backup? - The guy who started Tyson Beijing. - Oh, that's right. - Yeah, which we knew that was gonna happen, but were they gonna cover three or carry three? - I bet what we'll see Brett Ripon maybe come back as a practice squad, as a quarterback there. - Yeah, Beijing's dad being the foremost arm wrestler on the planet, still very awkward. - But also fitting when you hear him talk, and you hear interviews, you're like, - Well, okay. - Yeah, that makes sense. The fact he did a mile of broad jump burpees for a mile this summer, that's psycho stuff. - That's, that workout is absolutely-- - Could you imagine doing that? - No, I'd be like, I'm dying. - My shoulders, I would tear. - Well, now they would, even like-- - Even best, even absolute best shape, me. - That would be insanely hard to do. - It would tear me apart. - Yep. - That's a different kind of human. I don't know what to do with that. That's a level of sickness I can't get to, which is where we'll go to with our next, our worst day on the web. But first, it's a bit good with sports on our update. - I hear they got some tasty burgers. - When you think about businesses that are selling to the roof like aloe, all birds or skims, sure, you think about a great product, a cool brand and brilliant marketing. But an often overlooked secret is actually the businesses behind the business, making selling and for shoppers buying, simple. For millions of businesses, that business is Shopify. 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See how you can save on every plan versus Verizon and AT&T at T-Mobile.com/keepandswitch. (upbeat music) - Up to four lines via virtual prepaid card. A left 15 days, qualifying unlocked device credit, service, ported, 90-plus days with device and eligible carrier and timely redemption required. Card has no cash access and expires in six months. (upbeat music) - It's time for today's worst day on the web. With Danny and Desti on Odyssey and 1080 The Fan. - That sucks. - I love a go-old country hate fest. - Ooh, okay. - It's the simplest thing to bring out the most hate in envy. And where can you find hate in envy over something very simple and stupid, but Kentucky? - Yeah, yeah. Kentucky, West Virginia, wasn't that, we went over this Hatfield, McCoy's. That's where it originated. - The Kentucky State Fair. - Okay. - State fairs are a good place for controversy. - That sounds like a good party, the Kentucky State Fair. That seems like a State Fair I'd want to go to. - I mean, you go to one stand, Moonshine, next stand, something fried, next stand, probably some sort of firearm and next stand, something sweet. - It sounds like a good time. - Sounds like a good State Fair to me. - And then a beer garden. - Yeah, a lot of local brew, I would imagine. Maybe some local pies? 'Cause that's where the story is gonna go. There's a, or I shouldn't say, pie, I should say cake. A my favorite cake contest was won by a woman named Carrie Perry. - Oh, hey, look at that. - That feels made up. - Well, I feel like it's a fake name. She's going off the Katy Perry thing. And maybe she makes like a pear pie, or like a pear cobbler of sorts. - Or maybe a peachy keen tucky. - Oh, hey. - Get it? Also, she spells Carrie, how do you think she spells it? What's the most irritating way to spell it? - Uh. - K-E-R-I. - Yeah, I would say that would be it. - What about K-A-R-R-I? - Oh, two bars. - That's a good one, yeah. Cause that's how she's Carrie. You get to roll your roll the Rs. - Roll those Rs, go Jason Swiker. - Carrie. - Uh, but she-- - Carrie, Carrie Perry. - She won the blue ribbon for her peachy keen tucky cake. - All right. - It was a peach cake with vanilla and almonds, with fresh peach jam in the center, with a Swiss meringue. Hey, buttercream frosting on the outside that was very delicately flavored. Here's the thing, she's not from Kentucky, and the local Kentucky's are mad. - Oh. - They're saying, she's from out of state. - She's an import. - Yeah, they're saying, she's from out of state, she doesn't count these. So the rules are you need to make a layered cake, has to be made from scratch, recipe needs to be provided. Being an in-state resident isn't one of those rules, according to the actual contest. - Well, isn't bad, I don't have a problem with this. Where's she from? - That's a good question. - Georgia, is she coming with those sweet Georgia peaches, into Kentucky and infiltrating? Like, that's an unfair advantage, maybe. - Yeah, okay, we'll prove where she's from first, people. And then-- - Well, she says she's not from there, so. - I don't care. - They said they've had other contest winners that have been from as far as Arizona. - Oh, I see. - But I mean, if you're Kentucky and you're in the Kentucky state fair, are you thinking that this is the U.S. fair, where it's open to everyone? Or is this more, is it about being-- - No, I do. - I think what you're doing here, is you're entering your pies like a quilt. Like, you know, you're going to a quilt competition, which I don't know if you know this, those are things. Quilters, they take it very seriously. And so I bet they, I bet you just sit there and you're like, I want to see how many states my pie can win in. And I think that is fair game, because wouldn't the undisputed pie champion of the United States of America be somebody that wins in multiple states? Then you could just say, hey, I won in Kentucky, Georgia, Idaho, Oregon, Iowa, and you just go down the list and you treat this thing like it's the electoral college. You just go down the list, how many states have you won? Pally, you know, sometimes. - You're not going, you need voting rights in the state kind of a deal? - No, no, because this is pie. These are, the pie is the candidate. - I would say one. - Is the candidate, the candidate you're voting for isn't from the state. So you're just going-- - Well, it originated in your state. - Is every green, what? - It originated, it was baked in your state. - Yeah, sure. - Yeah. - So it's from your state. - But is every ingredient from the state of Kentucky of these winning pies? - Mm, I would say that in America-- - So I said the person mixing it. You're a melting pot. - Yeah, that's right. - So-- - So why should the person mixing it be from that state? - Oh, yeah. - I do know that there's a lot of angry grandmas though in Kentucky based on this out of town or coming in and winning our pie bake-offs. I guess that's something we don't really have to worry about here in Oregon because, you know, California pie maker is not winning an Oregon state fair pie competition. - You don't think so? - No. Some are from Washington, Mike. I think I think somebody from California, Mike, it's sheer volume. - No, they're-- - They're overwhelming. - No, no. - We are a legion. - No, we are many. - No, you don't know pie. You don't know pie. You know beaches and sand in your creek. - Sir, my last name is of actual pie among us. Who has a pie named after them? - Yeah. - No? - You can't make it. - You know that. You know you can't make a lemon meringue pie. - Goodness. - You know that. - Unbelievable. If you don't believe that if I ever baking contest that I wouldn't make a lemon meringue pie, you were out of your mind. - Yeah, and you wouldn't win it 'cause you're from California. - You don't know how to do that. Hey, I'm just saying facts here. - Unbelievable. - Just saying facts. - I did a different kind of baking in college. - Yeah, what'd you put in there? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Butter. - Some stuff. - Bon water. - Yeah. Okay. Jeff's got his brownies again. (laughs) - No, don't touch that one, mom. - No. - Uh-oh, burns on the moon for Thanksgiving. - What do they call them, the cosmic cakes? - Uh-oh. Good Lord. - A statement has been issued. The Kentucky State Fair Culinary Division is highly competitive and we celebrate the pride, passions, and pursuits of all exhibitors submitted this year. Somebody wrote this, went to freaking English school. There's just no way. - Yeah, they did go to English school. - You like that? - That's what they did. - It sounds like Danny didn't. (laughs) - I totally lost what I was gonna say there. I wanted to say, go to school, be a English professor. God. - This guy. - Yeah. - You mean like word. - You sound like idiocracy. Would you go English school? Why you know so much about words? - Can't say the next word. (groans) - Why you know so much words and stuff, English guy. - You think you're so smart? - Oh, the alliteration. That's what I was trying to get to there. My God, let's pick this back up. With the notoriety of this class, we will welcome those around the region to compete for the coveted Blue Ribbon. This year, let's just say the proof was in the filling. - Yeah, ooh, ooh, see I hate this. - That's punny, that's punny. They're good. That's folksy right there. That's folksy. You put in enough words to where people that don't understand what you're talking about will just be like, I can't read this, I'm done. And then you're throwing a little jab at the end to make the one who actually won the pocket competition, Kerry Perry, happy. - They have also clarified in regional fairs next door. Ohio and Indiana state fairs require contestants to live in state. - Oh, see, they, them's the rules. Kerry Perry ain't going to Indiana or Ohio to win their competitions. You gotta stick to Kentucky. - I bet you she knew that too. Like if she's, she goes through the bylaws and is like, I got this. - Where can I exploit this? - I got this, yeah. - 'Cause it's actually not that good. - You know, I welcome Kerry Perry in her, whatever the name of that peach pie was. I welcome her with open arms because that sounds like a delicious pie. I love pie. I love. - What's your favorite pie? - That's a tough question. That's a really tough question. - I banana cream pie. - Yep. - Banana cream pie is amazing. - I'd probably go with like a chocolate cream pie. - I like, I like banana cream pie. I'm a fan of a good strawberry pie. - Key lime. - Yeah. - Cherry pie. I'm a fan of cherry pie as well. - It's the only time Kerry's-- - It's the only time Kerry's-- - So it's Jenny Lane. It's a lead singer of warrant. - Yeah, yeah, I know. I know. - He's just staring at you 'cause you know what you did. - I mean, you know exactly what you did. And you had to explain your joke to some people who were like, "Hmm, maybe they didn't know that." - Well, you were kind of looking at me that way. - Well, look, she's my cherry pie. All right, yeah, I know. I know. Damn you, warrant. - What are we supposed to do with this? - Speaking of state fairs, they're probably playing out of state fair this week. - Unbelievable. - Yep. - This is what we do. All right, come up next. A quick little pivot to college football. Some, the picks are starting to come in. And there's a couple of upsets, I think, outside of the Big Ten and the SEC. - All right, all right, all right, all right. - Okay, that was a decent producer. Now, they say cold drink of water. I mean, would it be that much different if they said, you know, "Kubil ice cream"? - Chippoo, kubil ice cream with that cherry pie. - Yeah. - Pie all the mode is the way to go, especially the Marion Berry Pie coming in on the Vancouver ForeTech site. - Elite, Marion Berry Pie, elite, elite pie. - I'm not out on Marion Berry. - Go back to California. - It's overrated. - Go back to California with your Marion Berry takes. See, this is why they can't make good pies for us. - This is a very farm. 10 blocks from my house, had to go further blocks. - Yeah, okay. - On the other side of the river, that's all farm minded, it's involved. - Marion Berry Pie is delicious. - It is good, 'cause what is it? Is Marion Berry more acidic? Is that what it is? It cuts through a little bit different? - Sure. - I think that's what it is. - Marion Berry syrup is great as well. Like you go in, a little Marion Berry syrup when you go to Elmer's, put those on your cakes. - Oh, buddy, yeah. You could take that, Maple, back to Canada. - Not a little bit of that sweet, yeah. - Marion Berry syrup is amazing. - Very good. - Very good, amazing. - And this sounds good, too. Strawberry rhubarb custard pie with crumble top. - Ooh. - God. - Yeah. - There's a lot of things going on there. I feel like rhubarb is the only time it's ever good. - Yeah, it's like, you don't ever hear rhubarb being used in anything else. - Mm-mm, because it's bitter. - I had never actually seen a rhubarb until probably like two or three years ago at the grocery store. - It looks like a red celery or something. - Yeah, it looks terrifying. - I was like, what the hell is that? And then that was like, oh, that's right. You've ever been to a grocery store and I had an idea of what something looked like and you saw it for the first time and you're just like, what? - Yeah, when I was a kid, that was Kiwis for me. - Little fuzzy, yeah. - Like I had had Kiwis, like-- - Defuzz. - But they'd been peeled and I was like, they were like, my mom was like, get some Kiwis. I was like-- - That's some Kiwis. - I don't know where it's at. - Yeah, I didn't expect to see those little fuzzy balls. - Nope, yep, nope. - Make sure we're clear there. - What's the one from dragon fruit? That thing looks crazy. - Yeah, you know what that looks crazy. - It does look like a dragon. - No. - It's lies. - You're right, Jeff. It does not look like an actual dragon. - Hey, star fruit looks like a star. - It's not wrong. - All right. - Am I asking too much here? - Yes, probably. Does it look like a dragon's egg, maybe? - I thought you were gonna say something else first. - I, yeah, that, look. - Yo, come on. - I'm with the way today has been going. - Well, I mean the eh, the eh, definitely starting to sound like something else. And I was like, oh God. - Can't take you guys anywhere. - Oh, it's you. - It got me. - You, definitely you. - Totally fine. - All right, well, speaking of somebody else, Ross Dellinger of Yahoo Sports. Quick little pivot here. We're still sticking with Yahoo. Is the report from the NCAA is out of what they are hoping to do to change college football again already. And that is to limit the transfer windows. - Yup. - They're gonna get sued for this. So they wanna go from having to a winter and a spring portal window to just having one that is a 30 day period where players at the end of the season could say, I'm unhappy, I wanna leave. They wanna cut down on, there is value. And there's a lot of value in struggling when you are at a place. What they wanna do is cut down the, well, I'm not gonna get, I'm not gonna be a starter, so I wanna leave. - Yeah. - And the coaches around college football are saying, that spring window, you are hurting kids and kids are hurting themselves by having that portal window and being like, dude, just see your way through it, grind your way through it and you'll come out the other side a better player. There is a ton of value in them. And a lot of guys are just saying, nope, out. We've seen a lot of players around, how many guys have you heard of who when they're in the NFL or they're in the NBA and they say, you know, it was hard when I wasn't the guy anymore, when I wasn't the star. And I had to reset and restart and I had to face some challenges when I wasn't the best anymore. And I came out the other side and when I got done, it took me two years but I got on the field finally. What you're seeing now is a lot of guys will go through that first year in college. They'll go through spring ball and be like, oh, I'm still not a starter, bye, I'm gone. And I do agree that, all right, give them the window, give them the portal, but do it if you're unhappy, right? - Yes. - Do it if you're unhappy. And that is have that one time, you know if you're unhappy or not within the first two weeks that you're on campus. You'd be like, yep, they all, - Not for me. - Not for me, they lied to me, you know. They're gonna get sued and they're gonna lose all of this. You may get a year. And the other part of this is coaches want this. They just want the one window 'cause it's simpler, it's easier, it's less management, but here's the thing. Once you opened up this box of NIL and new era and everything else that comes along with it, you were going, the NCAA in whatever institution comes around as some sort of governing body for the top 60 schools in the country, they are going to get their ass handed to them so many times between now and then in lawsuits that they are not going to be able to put constraints around anything, outside of what is absolutely specifically detailed and outlined by those policies. - Well, and there's a lot of states that no compete clauses don't hold up in them. Now that you are paying college athletes, they are going to be considered employees very shortly. Essentially what you're doing is putting a no compete on them. And that will-- - Well, federally, they're no longer a thing. Remember that? - That will be a thing where you sit there and you go state to state. We saw it with NIL, NIL, it was, you had these states saying, no, we're not paying guys. And then they started seeing that they were losing recruiting battles because of it. And they were like, okay, yeah, we're going to be all in on NIL. If you have certain states that are like, no, you know, we'll allow a no compete on a, essentially this would be a quote unquote no compete. Every state is going to acknowledge it because kids aren't going to go there if they don't have a way out. You will start losing recruiting battles because of it. They're going to get sued, they're going to lose in this, and we will have some windows. Until you have a league that is collectively bargained, and that's why the NFL NBA, Major League Baseball, can have these windows of free agency, windows of trades. It's because they've been collectively bargained between the players and the league. Until that happens, it's going to be the free for all. - And they're going to-- - And it may get worse before it gets better back to one window. - And you're going to get sued and sued and sued, and it's not just a mix, it's everything. And that's where, I don't know if you've been paying into this, that there's been the, what is it? Dartmouth Athletics was one of the first to unionize, and they're now suing. The local SEIU is now suing Dartmouth over what they called it, Unfair Labor Practices, and that is probably going to set a precedent for the general framework that you're going to see for a CBA in college sports. - Yeah, but Dartmouth and the Ivy League are so different. - They are different. - Because they're non-scholarship, they're just players. - But they have used their frameworks for the breakouts that they've done to basically everything else. - I take very little credence to what the Ivy League does, because they can, a lawyer will treat it, be like, they're on a different planet, they're in Ivy League school, these aren't scholarship players, they're binding agreements, have so many outs in them that it's ridiculous because they're not scholarshiped, and their NIL is not anywhere comparable to another institution. You have to separate those, right? And so now Northwestern is a different example. Northwestern, if they get their full union, then now we're talking, and that's a completely different animal because they offer scholarships, they get big NIL, they have a seat at the big boys table, and that could really be the big changer. But hey, the right lawyer, a good lawyer, sure as hell I can win that one, absolutely. - It's gonna be interesting. So just something to kind of keep a little track of is one case after another, after another, after another continues to pummel the NCAA and punch them in the face. - Again and again. - To say that I enjoy this is an understatement. - Yes it is. - All right, come up next, we are continuing our college world rivalry trophy bracket breakdown as we have 16 teams in the 16 round of 16. We will go through all eight match ups. - Which you go to English school? - And went to English school. We'll get to that in some more English options. 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As soon as you walk in the house, it like-- - Get away from that grill. You don't know how to stop the fire. - With the latest on the blazers, ducks, beavers and the hottest topics in sports. - We're gonna leave a hamburger, okay? Here we go, chat and throw them at it. (dramatic music) - That's a fire! - Danny and Dusty on the Odyssey app, and 1080. - I love cooking them brand of Saris Burgers. - The fan. (upbeat music) - I'm number three here on Danny and Dusty on a Tuesday afternoon. - Yeah! - He said confidently. - Wow, on a significantly less confident than he said in English school. - Man, they're gonna have $2.22 beers at the Oak Tree tonight in Ashland. - Ooh, buddy. That's all I think about on Tuesdays. - Mm, just permanently baking. - Yeah, it's been a long time since I've been down there, but it doesn't leave me. It doesn't leave me. - I mean, stealth banking batter. - I don't think it can. It's a lot like a tapeworm. (laughing) Gonna have to dig it out. - Oh, man. God bless 'em. - I feel like that's how that goes. All right, now, we have lots of bang through here, so I'm gonna get through as many of these as quickly as possible. - All right. - We wrapped up our winners of the last round yesterday. Da-da-da-da, woo-doo! Our 400, that music! It's getting closer. Feels so good! Getting closer. - I feel it in my plums. - That's the safer BMW, woo! But our winners from the last round include the Ram Falcon Air Force Colorado State. - Winner. - The Land of Lincoln of Illinois Northwestern. - That's a bronze hat. Yeah. - A Paul Bunyan of Michigan, Michigan State, and the Jules Shalalie of USC Notre Dame. - Now Paul Bunyan, that one was, that was a close battle. That was a tough one. That was a, that was like a, what do we call that? A two versus a two yesterday. - It was tough. - That we had that. - The ball Bunyan was up against the bones from Emphasis UAV. Jules Shalalie was up against the bell of Ohio Marshall. - Halle. - Land of Lincoln against the megaphone of Notre Dame, Michigan State, and the Ram Falcon against the Cyhawk of Iowa State. - All right. - What do we got today for the round of '16? - So our final, I should say our final round of '16 includes the saddle, the milk can't, you know what? I'm just gonna read off all of the matchups. That way it's a game. - Yeah, give me the matchups here. - The Little Brown Jug takes on the platy. - Michigan versus Minnesota, remember, fielding Yoast, the coach of Michigan, he thought Minnesota was gonna poison his players. So he brought his own jug of water. And that became the trophy between Michigan and Minnesota. Is a Little Brown Jug. They've got the scores of each battle written on the side of it. It lives in Ann Arbor, basically, but it is a great trophy, any leech trophy. - It's a one seed. - It is a one seed. - And you local heathens better get this right. - They are not right now. The platypus trophy, which is a great rivalry, more competitive rivalry than Minnesota, Michigan, and a great concept and idea, a platypus, a beaver, a duck, a platypus, great trophy in theory and execution. - Not, it's about the trophy. - That's what this is, not about the trophy. - It's not the best rivalry, it's the best rivalry trophy. - God, I did not go to any school. - No, you didn't, it's okay. We know you didn't, done, do them booking. - No, two schools that do, you see a Notre Dame jeweled chaletli taking on the beehive boot from three schools that don't. - Again. - A Utah, Utah State, and BYU. - In my opinion, if you're going trophy, beehive boot is better. Beehive boot is a better trophy than the jeweled chaletli. - I think I agree. - You know? - I think I agree. - The beehive boot, it looks awesome. - It's a very detailed boot. - Yeah, it's a unique idea. - The jeweled chaletli also unique, but. - Well, there's plenty chaletli's, and this one, you see Notre Dame one, it's very phallic. - It is. - It is. - It is, it's got the jewels on it. - It's a bedazzled phallic. - Yeah it is. - So. - Yeah it is. - It's pretty humbrane. - Mind the step, children. - Next on our list, the seminal warkenu that does not include the Seminoles, includes Florida and Miami taking on the saddle of TCU, Texas Tech. - Saddle is elite. I don't know how the warkenu is here. - It is, you know, it just paddled along. - Is it? They're rowing that boat right through this bracket right now. - But they're not up the creek as it were. - Texas Tech and TCU playing for a saddle, it's so fitting, it is so different, and right now the saddle has a slight edge in the early voting. Early pollsters are in. - Alright, rounding out the first half of the final 16, the Paul Bunyan of Michigan, Michigan State, taking on the Golden Cannon of Central and Western Michigan. - Yeah, this one should be a route, it should go to Paul Bunyan. - Ooh, I thought you'd say Canyon, Canyon, Canyon. - No, no, no, no, no. This is not a full-size cannon. The Fremont Cannon is the one cannon that should advance. - Oh sure, you did, you have specified. You are not singularly cannon-minded, you are a full-size cannon. - Don't many cannon me, cannon me. Give me big cannon. - Alright, on the back half, the Hartland Trophy of Iowa, Wisconsin taking on the milk can trophy the Boise State and Fresno State. - Boy, you got a bowl and you got milk, huh? We are very bovine-oriented here in this matchup. - Milk to cow for you, we don't have any cows, we got a bowl. - Kingpin, great movie. - This is where the milk can ends, in my opinion. I think the Hartland Trophy, it will advance. It shall advance Iowa in Wisconsin. - Another big 10 matchup, the Floyd of Rosedale Iowa, Minnesota taking on the land of Lincoln of Illinois, North West Coast. - This is a tough one, but I'm going Floyd of Rosedale. - I think the Floyd might win this. - Again, might might win it all. - The people of Minnesota, in the early 1900s, were racist towards Iowa players. So Iowa said, you know what we're gonna do? We're gonna go down, we're gonna go to Rosedale, we're gonna get a pig, and we're gonna name it after the governor of Minnesota. And so that's how we got the Floyd of Rosedale Trophy here. And I am gonna vote for the Floyd of Rosedale Trophy. - I like it, I like it. Again, I think the Floyd of Rosedale might be our ultimate winner, but we'll see. The full-size Canada of the Fremont, taking on Nevada UNL, or of Nevada UNLV, taking on the other Shalalee of Notre Dame Purdue. - Two Shalalees, too many. This one's got a kicker in it, it should have been bounced earlier. - Yup. - The jeweled Shalalee, no kicker. - No kicker. - Which makes it better than the Shalalee. - This Shalalee's got a kicker next to the Shalalee. Notre Dame, find something different than a Shalalee. - They're one trick pony. - Yeah, Lee, Fremont Cannon. - Slap it a sign in having Shalalee's. - Oh, the next one is a tough one. - This is a tough one. This is a final match of the round of 16, the Silver Spade of UTEP, New Mexico State, and the Ram Falcon of Air Force Colorado State. - And you got, the Silver Spade is a beautiful-- - A very shiny, shiny trophy. - It's a shovel, it's made of silver. - But then you have the Ram Falcon, where it's a literal Ram and Falcon fighting each other, a mid-scene, very detailed, carved from the rock of the Rockies. - I feel like that, Ram Falcon. What's the weight of the Ram Falcon trophy? Do we know that? Do we know, it feels like it should be heavy. I mean, it is just massive. - It's made of rock. - It does not-- - No, we don't have a weight. We don't have a weight. Put that thing on a scale. I'm gonna go, oh boy, this is tough. This is a, I think I'm gonna go Silver Spade. I think I'm a Silver Spade guy, and I'm in the minority after my vote has been cast. I'm in the minority here, but it's a-- - I have ignored my roots for far too long. I have been impartial and objective. I am going with the Ram Falcon. - Yeah, well, you've been impartial. You begged people to support the troops over the Apple Cup and Commander in Chief Trophy. - Yes, because those trophies suck. - Yeah, but you support the troops. I usually do support the troops. - I mean, look, the Silver Spade is great. - Yeah. - It is unquestionably great. - I'm supporting the miners and Aggies in this instance. - I respect it. - All right, wow. Get the votes in, the round of 16, all today. All today, because tomorrow we'll have the round of eight. Our final four will be on Thursday. - Final four matchups. - A championship edition on Friday. - Dun, dun, dun, dun. - Oh, we, let's go. - So there you go. That's our group for today. You can go to @dannymarang on Twitter and it's been retweeted by the @danny and dusty count and the 10 of the fan accounts. - Let's go. - It's, go ahead and get your votes now. All right, come up next. We were gonna talk about this yesterday, but I think I'm pretty sure I derailed and went full squirrel. - No, are you? - Oh, no way. Take a look at quarterback tiers in the NFL ahead of, as we get into some more and more football action, it's so, so close. Standing dusty, standing in the fan. - Somebody wrote this, went to freaking English school. There's just no way. - Yeah, they did go to English school, like that's what they did. (upbeat music) It's listical season, which is a few weeks away from both college football and the NFL getting fully underway. If you got lists that you planned this summer, it's time to get them out and, well, the athletic has followed with their NFL quarterback tiers list for 2024. And right out of the gate, they did something interesting that it's nice to see put in like a little bit of a graphic. They had risers and followers from their tiers list from last year. And they did not include anybody who stayed the same rank or anybody who was new to the list. So there's only people that were on the list from last year. - It should be noted that the athletics tier rankings are seven GM's, eight head coaches, 12 coordinators, 12 executives, eight assistant coaches, three people from the analytics community. - It is a big list and pretty sparse. It is not just a couple of writers at the athletic. These are, yeah, these are not writers of any thing. They are people that are in the NFL work in that world. And that, when I get these sorts of tiers where you have that level of anonymity and you're able to kind of speak freely and rate these guys on your own without any backlash, I think you get a more honest assessment of what people in the NFL believe these quarterbacks are. I have been within earshot when the athletic has conducted these anonymous polls in locker rooms in the NBA. And the answers are very frank. So I would imagine you're getting the same thing here. The first thing that jumped out to me was not that Jordan Love jumped up 13 points from last year. That's, I think, to be expected. The biggest jump of any quarterback last year, right? - No doubt about it. I mean, 'cause CJ Stroud was new, that's not to be expected. The one that stood out to me is not the very top. It's the very bottom. Trevor Lawrence fell seven spots. He is the biggest follower of the group. And that is a list that includes Russell Wilson, Jalen Hurts, Kyler Murray, and Justin Fields. - But I think where you have to consider Trevor Lawrence stopping his fall is he went from ninth to 16th. - And the best ability is availability. And I think that there was a level of frustration amongst Jacksonville fans, even when he was healthy at the beginning of the year that, all right, we haven't taken that step forward because he was projected to be a guy that would take a massive step forward. And the step forward was not great. They got more help around him. And then he got injured. We could see the exact same thing from CJ Stroud. And I don't think it's an indictment of Trevor Lawrence as to what he can be. It's just where they feel he is now. Because if you think of Trevor Lawrence, he went from the second tier of quarterbacks in the NFL down to the third tier. And when you're injured, I can see why. And I think the guy he's right behind is Tua, who are the top two quarterbacks in the third tier in this tier-tearing system. Those are two guys that you can sit there and say if they are healthy and help move down to the third guy in that tier, Kyla Murray. - That's exactly where I was gonna go. - If you go, those three guys, if healthy, they could be that second tier of quarterbacks because the bottom of the second tier is Jordan Love and Kirk Cousins. And you could say they could easily replace those guys in that second tier next season if they just stay healthy and they produce. But you get hurt, you don't play a lot. Denms of the break, sorry, bro. - Is there anyone in tier two who you're like, huh. - Okay, well, I mean, let's give the tiers, first of all, because in the top tier is Patrick Mahomes, number one, no-brainer. - Yep. - Joe Barrow, number two, no-brainer. Josh Allen is number three. And those are the top three quarterbacks in the NFL, according to the GM's head coaches, executives, analysts, and assistant coaches. The second tier, I am surprised Lamar Jackson is in the second tier and he's not in the first tier. To be quite honest, what more do we need to see from Lamar Jackson? Is it winning in the playoffs, which I don't think is wholly on him? - No. - It is a rash of injuries around his entire team. - But you can argue that both for Allen and Barrow, they have. - But Josh Allen, has he really gotten over the hump there? I mean, again-- - He's gotten there? That AFC title game? - He's gotten to an AFC title game, but you know, they lost and again, the same kind of thing. - It's a step forward. - It wasn't Josh Allen's fault they didn't win that game. - But it's a game further than Lamar. - Than Lamar Jackson. - And I think that's probably much like when you're talking yesterday, we're talking about college football coaches, tears, the cutoff being making the playoff. I think this is kind of the same thing. - They say that tier two is a quarterback that can carry his team sometimes, but not as consistently. He can handle peer passing situations and doses and/or possesses other dimensions that are special enough to elevate him above tier three. He has a whole or two in his game. And I guess the whole other two in Lamar Jackson's game is you wanna see that consistency throwing the ball downfield and pushing it vertically. So I guess that would be it right there. The surprising one to me is Dak Prescott's number nine. - Too high? - Too high, yeah, too high. He is ahead of Jared Goff, Jalen Hertz, Brock Purdy, Kirk Cousins, Jordan Love. And I am not as down on Dak Prescott as a lot of people are, but I at this point would put Jared Goff in front of him. I would put Jalen Hertz in front of him. And I know he gets a lot of flack. I would put Kirk Cousins right in front of him about equal. About equal. - I had a thought that I might just swap love and Dak. - Just move Jordan Love up to nine. - Just swap 'em. - Yeah, that consistency though. Can you do it for multiple seasons? We'll see that. - It doesn't feel right to have Dak in the top 10. They'll say that. - No. - It just, no. Again, Dak gets trapped on because he's a cowboy and the playoff shortcomings. He's a good quarterback. - Yes. - But again, he's Kirk Cousins with better PR. - Yep, he is because his personality is not great. - No, it really isn't. And the good PR is he plays for the Cowboys. - Yes. - Jared Jones protects him at all costs. Jason Garrett and Mike McCarthy have protected him at every turn. - He's never had to take responsibility for anything. - Exactly. - It's got, they've taken the shots. They put the shield up around him in the way that they didn't with Tony Romo. - That is a very good point. - You know what I mean? - Well, maybe they learned from it? - Dak doesn't fire back either. Like Romo would be quick to fire back. I don't like the way that Dak deflects stuff up. - Everything. - But the way that he does it, like every quarterback, their job is to deflect everything, right? But the way he does it, he seems, he's not fiery like Romo. He's more pouty when he does it. - Yeah. - Yeah. - That sounds about right. - Yep. But no, nothing really surprises me in tier two because I think those are all guys that we could see potentially in that first tier with the exception of Matthew Stafford and Kirk Cousins again. I think even Aaron Rodgers being in there at seven. - I think Aaron Rodgers stays healthy this year and I don't know what they're saying the hole in Aaron's game is. But I think that if Aaron Rodgers stays healthy, the Jets are competitive. They get to the AFC Championship game again. He could be in that tier one. - I think he's very, San Antonio Spurs. DNP old. - He's just getting old. - Yeah. - And coming off in Achilles injury. - Yeah, I mean, I think it's kind of one and one. - The tier three, I thought was the most interesting though. And that's a quarterback that is a legitimate starter but needs a heavier running game and/or defensive component to win. A lower volume drop back passing offense suits him best. - Which is weird 'cause Kyler Murray's throw it all over the park 40 times a game. - That would be the defensive component to win. - Yeah. - I think that would be the aura defensive component. - Or yes. - Yeah. - The same with Lawrence. Lawrence isn't a guy that you're seeing like 18 throw the ball 18 times a game. - Deshawn Watson, he forgot how to throw it back. - Deshawn, this is the one that is confusing to me in tier three is Deshawn Watson is at 18. He is ahead of Baker Mayfield. - Which, no. - Derek Carr in Geno Smith. - He should be behind all of them. - I think he should be behind all of them. In Geno Smith, I think is playing the quarterback position better than Deshawn Watson has the last two years. - Yeah. - He, he has. - I mean, Deshawn Watson got injured and, and he looked like he didn't know how to throw a ball anymore. - Yeah. - It was really weird. - We have seen him, he has dropped a lot. - I mean, when he was in Houston, he was easily a top 10 quarterback, probably a top seven quarterback in the league and moving towards the, you could see him being a top five quarterback. - The end of tier three, I don't get, is Russell Wilson. - He should not be there. - He's a tier four guy at this point. - He, I mean, he is on par with Daniel Jones, Justin Fields. Like that's, that's a hundred percent where he is. - Yep. - And honestly, I'm surprised there's not a tier five 'cause that's honestly, if we're talking tier five, that's where I'd put Bryce Young and Daniel Jones. - It's down there. Well, that was interesting though. Daniel Jones is taught, he has not considered the worst quarterback. - He's the top of the top of tier four. - Top of tier four, he's at 23rd. They think he's a 23rd best quarterback in the NFL. Ahead of Fields, Gardner Minshew, Anthony Richardson, Will Levis, Bryce Young, Sam Darnold and Jacobi Bursett. - I think it's an adjustment or expectations adjusted ratings. Like, the whole idea of where guys are drafted. - Yeah. - You know, where Justin Fields is, what was it, the 11th pick overall, where Daniel Jones was what pick? - Daniel Jones was fifth or sixth, something in that range. - I think when those guys, they have like the, no, they still got something. They still got like for an additional year longer than they probably should. - Yeah, sixth pick in 2019. - I think when you get those guys like Fields, it was, no, no, he'll figure it out. No, no, he'll figure it out. No, no, he'll figure it out. Just continually year after year after year. And we're in what, year seven of that was Sam Darnold? - Yeah. - Who's also in this tier? - Yeah. Yeah, good. Hey, Joel asks coming in on the YouTube stream, you put my brain in a pretzel and I did a second guess in myself. Well, wasn't the Lamar Jackson in the AFC Championship game last year, 'cause he got over the hump? - Oh, that's right. So, yeah, again, we both agree that he should be up there. - Yeah. I mean, I don't know what else we need to see. But for whatever reason. - Didn't he lose his receiver going into that game too? - They lost a lot hitting into that game. - I remember him, like him actually delivering in spite of circumstances. So yeah, it's, look, my biggest criticism of Lamar Jackson was always, can he be consistently accurate and pushed a ball down the field? And then he could, so. - And they lost 17 to 10. - Yeah. I mean, it wasn't a, it was ugly game, right? - It was ugly. - God, I thought that was the vision around for some reason. - No, but they'd be Houston and then they lost to Kansas City in the AFC title game. - Like everyone else. - Like everybody else. But in Lamar Jackson, just for whatever reason, it's zero credit whatsoever for winning MVP, taking his team to the AFC champion. Oh, I can't, can't throw the ball deep. Well, they got him some somebody that can push a defense vertically. And guess what? He could throw the ball better down field. And then it's like, oh, well, can't win in the playoffs. Well, he spanked the Texans 34 to 10 and lost by a score to the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC title game. But, okay, if that's why. - Man, anybody can do that. - Yeah, yeah, anybody can do that, right? So easy. - Simple. - Yeah. - Well, I mean, losing to the Chiefs. - Even a caveman could do it. - Even somebody went to English school. - That, you know what? People in the English, that go to English school, they couldn't do that. - Mm-hmm. - I don't think they could do that. Nope, no. - Couldn't get their name right. - They can write them words though. They can write them words. - A smith of words, perhaps. (laughing) All right, come on up next, pivot back to college football and some college football predictions with a couple of upsets along the way. But first, here's the big goon with sports on our day. - You mind if I have some of your tasty beverage to wash this down? ♪ He's been up on here ♪ - After investing billions to light up our network, T-Mobile is America's largest 5G network. Plus, right now, you can switch, keep your phone, and we'll pay it off up to $800. See how you can save on every plan versus Verizon and AT&T at tmobile.com/keepandswitch. 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First of all, I didn't recognize any of the writers outside of Ross Dalinger and Dan Wetzel. I was like, oh, they've turned over a lot of folks there. Nick Bromberg, Caroline Fenton. - Jason Fitz, I recognize. But that's good. - Jason Fitz, yeah. Ian Kosselberry, sounds familiar. - Not ringing a bell for me. - Joey, Joey, Joey, Bubby. - But what's Anderson is great. What a fun name, Joey Bubby. Hey, Joey. - You think he's Bubby? - Uh, Buzzbee. - Oh, it's a Z in there? - S. - Oh, I like Bubby better. - Hey, Bubby. - Yeah. - Bubby sounds like your aunt. - Yeah. - Or somebody who's not your aunt, but like you call them. - Joey, or Jay Busby doesn't sound nearly as cool. - That sounds very country. - Yeah. - A run out of the gate. Their ACC pecs were four different teams. Clemson, Miami, Florida State and North Carolina State. - I think the ACC and the Big 12 are the two most intriguing conferences in college football this year. Because one of them will be the three seed. - Which is, one of those two conferences will be the three seed. The other is gonna be the fourth who get, they will get first round buys for whichever team is left standing. And the ACC is because I don't think they have a dominant team, right? Will Clemson be one of those teams that at the end of the day we're sitting there and going, Dabo has still got it? Will Miami finally be back? Can Florida State pick themselves up off the mat after losing to Georgia Tech in Ireland? Which, by the way, has not been a good indicator for teams that we have expectations for to pick themselves up, Nebraska, Scott Frost, off the mat to go on and win football games. Will it be North Carolina State coming out of nowhere and really building on what they have for the last couple of seasons under Dave Doren? Because Doren is, that this guy who has zero filter, he will say whatever and do whatever it takes to win football games and is kind of an old school type guy. I don't know who the best team in the ACC is this year. It's wide open. - We're probably not going to know until the end of the season, to be honest, unless somebody comes out there and just throws the hammer down. - Yeah, I mean, remember Dave Doren? He was a guy where I don't know where this drop lives now, but he's the... - No, you can kiss my ass. Remember that after the game last year? - Yeah. - You can kiss my ass. - Yeah. - That one right there. - That's him, okay. - That's him. - He's a wild card, but I mean, they do. There are four different teams that have been pegged to win. Clemson twice, Florida State twice, Miami twice, and then Caroline Fenton has got North Carolina State for some reason. - Go not on a limb. - She's buying in on Dave Doren. And look, I could see it happening because who? - It's not that crazy. - The other three schools could go sideways in a hurry. - And the big 10 representatives, there's only two teams. Ohio State and Oregon, which is kind of interesting considering where this conference is as heavy and loaded, quote unquote, as this conference is, it does seem to be just those two. I don't think that's there's that much of a belief necessarily in Michigan. - Missing has three of the most... - Three of the five most talented players in college football. They do, but they are a corner, a tight end in offense of women, or defense of women. - And if you wanna throw another one in there and running back in Donovan Edwards. - Yeah. But Will Johnson, Mason Graham, Donovan Edwards, and... - No, no, no. Will Johnson, the tight end, Lovelace. - Yeah, Lovelace, but Johnson's the corner. - Yeah, yeah, Will Johnson. Will Johnson, Mason Graham, and Lovelace. I mean, those three guys are three of the five most talented players in college football. - They're probably the best prospects at their positions in the draft. - You can't count them out. - No. - There's so much turnover, so many new faces, but they have the ability to be a very dangerous team. Ohio State is on paper the most talented team. And I am not gonna undervalue Chip Kelly being an offensive coordinator to get Ryan Day out of his way. A lot of times in maximize the potential of Will Howard, Will Howard is a massive question mark there. They're depth up front on the offensive line. They're one injury away from being a significant question mark. And if that injury comes before October 12th and they come to Austin Stadium and play the Oregon Ducks, that could be the determining factor in whether it's Ohio State or Oregon that comes out of the Big 10 and how long those injuries last because we could see October 12th repeated in the first week of December in the conference championship game too. - The Big 12, as much as we talked about it being interesting as far as them being, potentially being a number three seed and hosting, three teams are picked here with five of the selections going to Utah. And I think Utah is far and above better than everybody in this conference by a clear line. - Now, there is a quarterback at Kansas State. There's a reason why they said, "All right, Will Howard, go ahead." And anybody that is played, if there's anybody that's played NCAA 25 with Kansas State, Avery Johnson is a freak. - Electric. - Red shirt freshman, he's a guy that, his speed is off the charts, but does he have playmakers around him? Like that's the massive question around him. - And what they do is they do find a way, as a coaching staff, they are very good at exploiting things that they do have. - And Chris Klimann is a phenomenal football coach at Kansas State. I'm surprised we didn't see Kansas. The third team that got a vote was Oklahoma State with Mike Gundy, which-- - Again, Ollie Gordon, probably the best running back in the country. - No, they're gonna run him in the ground because Mike Gundy told us that's his punishment. - For getting a DUI. - For as Dewey was, we're gonna run him into the ground. - That's how I'll learn. We're not gonna suspend it. - Okay, Kansas is gonna be good with Lance Leipold and do they catch teams at the wrong time and you catch square someone up on the jaw? No Colorado in there, huh. - No, I didn't know, that's weird. - I do think though, Utah, it really hinges on cameraizing. If cameraizing can stay healthy, they're a different team, but they went and they got another running back to bolster their backfield. Anthony Woods, who is from the University of Idaho, transferred down to Utah, he is a thousand yard back in the big sky last year. He's a body that they feel can convert very easily to their style of play. If they can control the clock and have cameraizing, they're gonna be a okay. They are going to be a force offensively. - The SEC, everyone picked Georgia. - Georgia. - It's nothing but cowards. - Not a single Texas pick. - No Texas, no Bama. - Which, Texas has been the chic, trendy pick if you're not taking Georgia. And for very obvious reasons. They've got a great quarterback in Quinn Eures. They have Isaiah Bond transferring from Alabama over one of the best wide receivers in the country. You've got an entire defense basically that's back from last year. There's a lot of reasons to buy into Texas. For them to not get a single vote, it definitely, I brought one up. - Absolutely. - Does Georgia feel that overwhelming in that conference? - Yes, because of what they pose defensively. - Okay. - And that is it right there. Like, Sark in Texas, they're gonna score. - Yeah. - You also have to look at, all right, how are the schedules shaping up for each of them? Because how many times have we seen Texas stub their toe in the big 12? - And it's on something stupid. - And when you have a tougher road to ho in the SEC, right? - And they make a crazy on them. - Michigan, Oklahoma, Georgia, Kentucky, and Texas A&M all on their schedule. That's gonna be five teams that are ranked at various points in the year. Georgia has got Clemson out of the gate. Better time to play them. Bama, Texas, Ole Miss, Tennessee. And Tennessee's gonna be the wild card in this because preseason ranking, they're 15th in the country. They've done an incredible job using their NIL arm to recruit and bolster their roster from the portal and from the high school ranks. Josh Hypel has done a really good job there. They've been a team that in a program that has been on the rise. How good are they though? Are they ready this year to go to toe-to-toe with the Georgia team that has had their number over the last handful of seasons? - In this group, they had the group of five playoff team. And I think the presumption as a Boise State is going to be that team. But there's some votes in here from Memphis. - NIL, this is not the basketball tournament, right? - No, no. Memphis football has been consistently good lately though. And if you look at the AAC now and how that conference shakes out, all right, is the road for Memphis easier than the road for Boise State, because here's the big one with Boise State. Where do they go week two? They go to Eugene, they play in Otson Stadium. If they get mopped by Oregon, that is going to hurt their chances. Memphis, their toughest game this season is Florida State, which we just saw Florida State. Didn't look great. What teams other than Florida State scare you on this schedule? North Alabama, Troy, Navy, Middle Tennessee State, South Florida, North Texas, Charlotte, UTSA, Rice, UAB, and Tulane, which lost their coach, Willie Fritz, and most of their roster to Houston, okay? Boise State has got Oregon on their schedule, Washington State, San Diego State, UNLV, Oregon State. There are more opportunities to stub your toe if you're Boise State than there are. UTSA, and if you squint maybe North Texas are probably the ones where you're like, those games could get frisky. Frisky, not difficult, frisky. Yeah, you know. Yeah, I'm with you. But other than that, yeah, no. Boise State's definitely a more difficult road to take. But I think that if they can hold their own against Oregon and not get the doors blown off them, and if they can navigate their schedule with a lost to Oregon and maybe a lost somewhere else on that roster, I think that you are gonna see Boise State be the team that's the group of five conference champion that makes their way in. I wouldn't throw liberty out of this conversation though because they have everyone back. Well, yeah, most of their guys are back in, for whatever reason, nobody went with liberty there. We saw how liberty went against Oregon in the festival. But if they're still of group of five, they're a good team. They could run the table. They could absolutely run the table. They just don't have the depth or the butts and the trenches. No, but on the scale position though, what's that quarterback's name? He's a nightmare. They don't have anybody that will terrify you on their schedule. They can play no teams from a power five. Okay. They know what they're doing. Exactly, they got UMass on there as an independent. It's a sacrificial lamb. They know exactly what they are doing. They're being smart about it. There's a couple of things on here. The biggest surprise, biggest letdown, Heisman title game champ. The one that stood out to me at least was the biggest surprise. There's only two repeat or one repeat of a school here. And that's, oh, I'm sorry, there's two. One for Iowa, one for Tennessee, both had two votes. Indiana, North Carolina State, Ole Miss. If you were picking on a set from that group, what team in the country in the power four, who would you say is going to be the most surprising and positive team? Indiana has the opportunity to Kurt Signetty, member that just Googled me. Just Googled me. I think Rutgers, I am believing what Greg Chiano-- It's good, he's a good coach and heaven forbid. If they get the talent there that they had, that they got on the basketball team, they're going to be real good real fast. And I love that Ole Miss is on their biggest surprise. Their preseason ranking is sixth. I was just going to bring that up. They are, they are higher, but I think because of the history, and they've been high before the, was it the Robert N. Kim D.J. class when they brought it, when they texted say and end this whole thing, and then he ended up being not nearly as good as Gini Vinclowne as we really thought. But there was a couple other guys in that class too that all just kind of disappeared. I am going to buy Ole Miss. I think they have a legitimate chance to win the SEC despite-- Yeah, I do feel very difficult schedule. That's why I don't think they're going to be surprised to me. It would be a surprise that they did it. The fact that we're talking about them isn't a surprise because they do make sense. But if they did do it, that to me would be like, "Holy crap, they did it." They did it. It would be kind of like Auburn making a return, like, "Oh, hello." All right, day back. Oh, coming up, we'll put a nice little bow on today's show when you're on Danny and Dusty Tinney, the fan. I'm wrapping up the... No, I'm going to be cramping. Whoa. The group of potential picks in college football, we were talking about the most surprising positive. Let's get out of here. What would be the most surprising let down in college football for you? Oh, good golly Miss Molly. I think it would be Ohio State falling on their face. That would be a surprising let down. If they are not... I mean, you think of the talent that Ryan Day has assembled, the guys that they got to come back for this year, the guys that they got to bolster the returners with guys like Caleb Downs, pretty impressive. If they were not to play in the national title game, that would be a let down. You were talking about expectations for Ole Miss. Like Ohio State, it is like, they should win a national title this year. And if they don't, that's a let down for them. They have it. They check every single box, every single one. And that would be a colossal let down. I think for me, it's the same conference and it's local, it's Oregon. Yeah, I think if Oregon finds a way to lose to Ohio State and to Michigan, the two high profile games, the rest of their schedule lines up so favorably and so well for them with the exception of a late game against Wisconsin. Yeah, going to Wisconsin in November is... That's gonna be a wake up. That's tough. That could be potentially hellaciously cold. Well, that's one I bet. I wouldn't be surprised if that's a big nooner or two. Big noon, which means early for us out here. Or they push it to the late night game and make it even more hellacious on Oregon. The drunk camp randal, sign that up. At night, yeah. I'm in. Was that where they do house of pain too? Yep, jump around, baby. That place gets nuts, but you throw in the cold and the drunken. Yeah, basically in Pullman at that point. I mean, Midwest Pullman. Yeah, bigger. Their schedule sets up so favorably for them that if they don't take care of those two games, even, it's insane. They could go 10 and two and it'd be a disappointment. And that would be a major letdown because if they lost both those games, they wouldn't probably be in consideration. No, no, but I mean, those two games are gonna be really tough football games. They are going to decide the world for them this year. And then I also think, and I don't expect this to happen, but Alabama with Caitlin DeBore, they're still really talented. Yeah, but if they only win like eight games or nine games and you're like anything less than 10 and they're gonna turn on Caitlin DeBore. Real quick, because they've done it before. They've done it before. So, yeah, that would be an interesting one to kind of follow too with Alabama and the SEC. They hit their highs and picks on here. Everyone picked the quarterback except for one person. One person picked Quinsch on Jugkins. Yeah, running back for Ohio State. I wouldn't be shocked. Look, he's a freak. The most broken character probably in NCAA football. Um, the video game. But I'm just glad somebody picked somebody not named the quarterback. Yeah, it's a good luck winning it though. It's like, I know, but like, but if they're the best team and you're like, it's not well-howered, you know, that is gonna be that. It would be funny if it worked against the quarterback for once. Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't that guy. But also, I mean, Jeremiah Smith, the freshman receiver they have, Emeko Booka, the pride of Stilikum. They have got so much talent. They got weapons offensively. Oh, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. 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