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Joe Hendry In Concert; TNA's Rosemary VS Kelani Jordan | WWE NXT 8/27/2024 Show Review & Results

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2h 20m
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28 Aug 2024
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Alex (@AlexSourGraps) and Kate (@MissKatefabe) review tonight's episode of NXT, including:


-Joe Hendry concert

-Je’Von Evans vs. Joe Coffey

-Wes Lee and Zachary Wentz meet face-to-face

-Charlie Dempsey, Myles Borne, and Wren Sinclair vs. Channing Lorenzo, Luca Crusifino, and Adriana Rizzo in a six-person tag match

-Izzy Dame vs. Karmen Petrovic

-“The Fatal Influence” Fallon Henley and Jacy Jayne vs. Lash Legend and Jakara Jackson


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You've got -- you, the SGS, just got a sliver of what I got as we were getting. Alex's audio set up, but -- When you turn -- listen, hello, Fightful, Fightful, what we're noted as a sourdough. When you turn on echo cancellation, it gives me this crazy echo in my, in my, in my headphones. And I was like, can you hear that? And then I was like turning it on and off and testing. And so I was like, echo, hello. Are you there? Which just made me sound like I was the guy from B-52s. It was, it was the best concert that we got tonight, unfortunately, because I didn't really love what we got at the end of this episode because -- It was under a dock, and there they saw a rock. Why are they doing this to my sweet, Ethan Page, but guys, this is NXT after-party variety show, post-show thing that we do every Tuesday, for August 27th. It's the go-home to know mercy, get in your super chats, as you guys already are, get in your humper chats. Alex thought because it was initially reported not by us and then corrected by us. And then doubled down by the original reporter after they checked with their sources. Correct. That it is happening just not yet. Not yet. But regardless, NXT to have an expanded presence in Vegas. So we were thinking Vegas puns, gambling puns, sloppishing puns, gambling puns, you know, I don't know, touristy stuff in Vegas. I'll even accept desert puns around the area. I do better than desert puns, there's plenty of- Mob-Hitman puns where they put guys in barrels and dumped them in Lake Mead in 1980, and now they're just like, it dis out, just floating in the breeze. Okay. Vegas. The real house, I don't want to go into the monster plot. I mean, this is what happened. This is the true thing, but it's true. It happened. They were killing guys in like 1980, putting them in barrels, dumping them in Lake Mead, never thinking that, oh, in like 45 years, it'll be so hot that all of the Lake Mead will have dried up and then all of our stuff, the evidence of such, will be just out in the breeze for everyone to see. But don't say puns about that. That's creepy. It's a very interesting story, though, I thought. It is, but if we're going to do mob puns, that has to be on a Tony D heavy day. So we are going to do Vegas, baby, up the middle puns, but a couple of notes from our dear Corey who sent them forward, but is a coward. So he chose not to show up tonight. He chose. Let's be honest. He chose sleep. And for that, we accept. Yeah. I can't. I can't hate on that. I would be sleepy, too, if I was just at all in weekend, just getting home now. But Fallon Henley did suffer a suspected, broken nose during last week's tapings, but she was able to finish her match. There was backstage concern for her, but she was rushed backstage after the match to get checked out. And she was featured on NXT over the weekend, but did not wrestle. So still some haziness around that about the clarity around it. But it sounds like if it is broken, it's not the worst, which is good, because that would just be a cursed little faction on the nose breaks chase, but this episode was internally titled, I almost don't want to say it, because Alex is going to have a nutty and it's too early. Singing from Mercy. I know it's bad. That's a bad, that's a bad name for an episode. That's a bad name for an episode. Like, I know that we're like hyper critical or whatever, that's our thing, but like singing from Mercy. Why are they bad at everything? Like, get good at something. He had also gotten the note about Trik Williams being named the special guest at Referees for Joe Hendry and Ethan Page. Or Corey, I guess, asked if that will lead to the return of the rest cam, but they did not confirm or deny that, but he did ask for you. So if there is further clarity, you can find that on Fightful Select. A whole bunch of British wrestling news posted up there as well on Fightful Select.com. Corey went to multiple shows, that Rev Pro show, before all in. I thought it was going to give all in and run for its money until it ended up being one of their best pay-per-views in history. But Zack and Etches Sarah with Luke Jacobs and Michael Oak, who's so, so, so good. The wrestling scene is healthy, it's thriving, and also, NXT happened tonight. No, I'm just kidding. It's wonderful that NXT is a really, truly trending upward as far as the business side of it. Going into no mercy, man, it's just like, it's hard to have a week where every WWE show is a go home. I'll put it that way, like, because we've fashioned Berlin and no mercy, and it was a taped episode, like, this is, this is not going to be the best week of WWE programming. Love how much women's wrestling we got on the show. Some fun stuff happened to the Tony deep picture, which we'll talk about a little bit, but this version of our champion feels so counterintuitive to everything I've gotten to know and love about him. And I don't get how you can call someone all ego when they never want to fight. Like those things seem contradictory and not in a cute way, not in like a cute way. >> Because they made him the Miz, they made him the Miz. >> But I don't think it's awesome. >> No, it's definitely not awesome, but they did make him the Miz. >> Like, I would nair an inflatable letter for this. [LAUGH] >> J.B. Pringle says awesome Alex combustible Kate Papa Paul Elizabeth to L T to quit. To L T to quit, hey hey, to L T to quit. Jam man, sisters, Luis, and all the SGS. Y'all seen any good raslin? Couple days ago. Sour tears unite, yes, that'll be good. >> Yes, thank you for uniting all the sour tears. >> Yes, that's what we do. >> It's very important that our sour tears are united. I was crying some sour tears, certain things happen tonight. But anyway, bad apple jam tree beard says I wish the IWC wasn't weird for at least one day, can we try not to tell wrestlers what their favorite moment in their career should say? >> Brian Danielson, you should have liked WrestleMania 30. Better than the main event of all in, because I did. So that means you should, even if one of your kids hadn't been born yet. And your other kid wasn't old enough to understand what was going on yet. >> Listen, Brian Danielson, I think I know what you like better than you do, okay? I mean, come on. >> I think I know what means more to you at a personal level than you do, okay? But I will say all those people are right because Birdie wasn't around to ruin WrestleMania 34. >> I'm just kidding, Danielson won, it's fine. Birdie and I are cool now, cuz he's not going away yet. So hopefully she'll realize as he's champion that the best way she can spend her birthday is with her dad as champion. >> Okay, good. Bad apple jam tree beard says also sending positive thoughts to SRS and his fam. Yes, yes, thank you very much. We'll pass that along to him going through some tough time with the family. We're not gonna get into it, that's for him to talk about. But thank you very much. Kate, this is, as you said, a very go homey show. >> Yeah, it was a double tape and a go home, so. >> Yeah, a double, I was gonna say that's a double whammy. When you get the taped episode, and there's a go home. But it was a double tape, so it's actually a triple whammy. Cuz that's two tapes and a go home, so that's triple whammy. >> The whole hat trick. >> Yeah, that's true. >> That was a hockey reference because the champion is Canadian, so. >> Yes, we didn't talk about this last night on our show. But they did a little thing, a little stinger at the top. Psycho Sid, Sid Vicious, Sid Judy passing away. >> Sean talked about it extensively on the main, by the way. So check out what he had to say cuz really, really special performer. I don't have as much attachment to these guys cuz I wasn't watching them. But he's one of those ones that you don't need a whole lot of context to understand how special he was as a wrestler, so. >> Yeah, it's crazy to think back at all the amazing stuff he was doing. Nobody had the combination of what he did as far as the look. That jaw, just the jaw itself. The jaw wasn't on a six foot nine absolute genetic freak. He would still go, that dude has got it. But the jaw is on top of a six foot nine genetic freak. So yeah, he had the everything in the palm visit. The one thing I do remember the most is that somehow he was the heel in the feud with Hogan after Hogan threw a hissy fit after he was eliminated illegally in the Royal Rumble and then eliminated Sid afterwards and then no, Sid's the one at fault. It's not Hogan's fault, it could be Hogan's fault. So yeah, no, he was doing, he did a lot of stuff in both areas. Like he did a lot of stuff in both WWE F at the time and WCW. So there's no shortage of really great stuff you can go and find if this was predates your fandom and you'd like to know more. There's all kinds of great footage out there of him doing everything. >> Always the best way to pay tribute is to watch matches I feel like. So I'll certainly be going back and learning more and I will probably be asking Jeremy Lambert for matches and showing her matches to check out. >> Yeah, we started with a walk toward the camera promo where all these, it was Debbie Gibson and Cowboy Corolla Deville and their ward. Like the girl that they adopted who they've decided to choose to teach the ways of evil. >> You are a veteran. >> Yeah, and yeah, so I think it's funny that they've decided to present. It shouldn't be surprising, let's be honest. They want to present the way that they do things now as the good way of doing things. So anybody who came in from the old way of doing things is therefore a heal, especially if that's what they identify with. So we had to pay our dues for years on the road. We figured out a way, we clawed to get a try out. We actually got signed based on our work as wrestlers. Is to them something as a badge of honor. Now, you could say that when they then say because you didn't come from that, you're less than, okay, fine. But it is also, I think, to me, objectively. A thing that should be lauded and is also now a lost thing. Like it just, people don't come into WWE very often from that side of things. And I think it's kind of cool to think that Fallon and JC have that bond together of being one of the last classes to come in who was from that way of doing things. But it's very like, yeah, so what I played college ball. So what, you were in the Titan games and I'm like, I don't even know or want to know. Is that like road rules? What is, what's the Titan, is that what that is? No, that's, that's, what's that called? That's the challenge, right? That's the road rules, that's the challenge. So I don't know what the Titan's games is. But anyway, that's where Jakara Jackson came from. That's fine. Here's what I don't, here's what I don't care where you come from. You put in the work once you're there and get better. And so that you actually feel like you fit in among the people who did put in all their time, then that's fine. But the people who were like, well, I don't know, I'll give this a shot. And then don't actually improve, then I feel like then they don't belong here. Cuz they don't actually put not putting in the effort. But that's fine. They don't have to be here. You know what I mean? That's, that's okay too. It's the ones that actually like Jakara Jackson and like Lash Legend. Who came in, have a no experience and put in the time, put in the effort and got better. It is a weird, we had two different weird kind of tribalistic things today. One, this one among the old way of bringing in recruiting classes and the new way of bringing in recruiting classes. And then later on explicitly like, TNA versus WWE thing that they're trying to do. So I just feel like, I don't know, let's not feed into any of that either way. >> So I think what we're supposed to buy is that they are using that grizzled young veteranness about them to be bullies. Like I think that's the story that they're trying to tell us. So you interpret it is up to you. I'm, I'm split on it because I think it's cool that they are attempting to do something with the multi-women picture. With all the great women's talent that they have and no tag titles. Like they, they kind of needed something that was stable esque. And not like stabilizing to the product like made around stables. To just use talent, especially this talent that like J.C. Jane and Fallon Henley are important pieces that genuinely are these things. That are more experienced. That do have more wrestling specific experience that have been around the NXT system longer. So I, in real world like the idea of pairing them with some of these younger talent. Jasmine Nix being there is just so at a place that it really pulls away from it for me. >> This whole thing to me would be so much better is if Jasmine Nix wasn't a part of this, I mean, not that she's not fine. >> She just doesn't belong with the story. >> She doesn't belong there. If Kiana James wasn't called up to do absolutely nothing, but was still in NXT, the three of them together would be great for this. >> Alex, I also want to inform you the Titan games are very similar to like American Ninja Warrior. Guess what the production budget on it was? >> I haven't a clue. >> I'll tell you. >> It was seven bucks cuz you know who hosted it. >> God. >> Finally, the Rock has come back to obstacle course things as the old saying goes. But that's where they found Casey, or Katana Chance, right? >> Yes, she was a part of American Ninja Warrior. So that's kind of a cool world to pull from. That is, if you're gonna choose things that are not wrestling, it's like something off the beaten path that isn't like just college athlete-ish. Cuz you do have to be like, freakishly athletic to do so much stuff. It's wild, so yeah, there's good and bad with it. I feel like it could have been more productive if the storytelling was better. You're gonna hear that from me a lot on this particular episode as well. But I just wish there were tag titles around so that there was something more central to it. But I applaud the effort for the story. It just does feel like when Solruco was on one side of it, and had been there as long. And Jasmine Nix is on one side of it. Like it just feels, it's so off-base, it's jarring to me. Like it makes it hard for me to buy in. >> Yeah, bad apple jam bringing it up. Cora Jade, if she was healthy. >> Yeah, I'm wondering how much of that would have been her slot, yep. >> Yeah, it's also like, I mean, again, I don't see the harm in if she can't wrestle yet, but she can walk to the ring. And I've seen film of her like you're doing little playing with her dogs or whatever. Like if she can walk, then slot her in as part of this thing, where she can cut promos with them or whatever. You know what I mean? She can't take a bump, so just don't have her take a bump. She's not cleared to wrestle yet. Like anytime, like actually being in front of people, cutting promos, getting better, that kind of thing would help Cora Jade. She could be a part of this thing once she is cleared. You know, there could be something there for her as well. I don't know, it's just, it's odd to me that they don't include people who are available to do stuff beyond wrestling to do that instead. >> Yeah, I'm a big proponent of that. I don't know if there's reasons or she doesn't feel comfortable doing that or whatever. Or if she's so far off, they're going to burn up this feud before she can get there or whatever. But I'm with you, she would have been kind of the tackler in this and a really good way for the story, I think. >> So Fatal Influence has music that doesn't really snap. There's no, it doesn't have any real beat to it. I don't think you can play it as a run in music. >> No. >> What is this? Like that it doesn't sound like anything. So score another one for Deaf Rebel. >> You can't, as composers call yourself Deaf Rebel. It leaves you open to too many jokes. >> Yeah. >> I know it's not spelled that way, but come on now. >> This was the thing where Fallon broke her nose on a dive, like she was catching. >> So weird. >> Jakarta Jackson, and then they went to picture in picture. There's no need to go to picture in picture for this. Like you could have just gone to black. It's a taped episode and then come back from it when it's fine. But it was just weird to see like Lash Legend and Jakarta Jackson standing on the other side of the ring and the camera focusing on them in picture in picture as they just stand there. >> Yeah. >> Because they don't want to show you what's happening with Fallon Henley, she's being checked on by the refs. But the fact that she got back in there and took bumps. >> And hit moves and was part of a really cool double team finisher that won the match for them, where she basically did a house call. >> Yeah, it was really cool. >> She did a swerve house call running from behind to the side. As Jasey Jane did a running shining wizard to pin, that was really cool. I honestly really enjoyed how that worked out for them. So good for Fallon, for fighting through it. I thought Lash and Jakarta looked fine, but better. >> Very good, yeah. >> And Jasey Jane. >> Lash has come a long way. >> But as you say, it's not like it's like, I would, if you're going to have one set of tag titles, then they, there should be a, and they float between all three brands. There should be a mandatory tag title defense on Raw. On SmackDown, on NXT every month. There are four weeks and three tag titles. And then if somebody, they get tired or whatever, and they're like, my God, we just had that crazy match that we had against Bianca and Jade. But now all of a sudden the NXT kids caught us napping. Then that would be really cool. And if the NXT kids were to become champions, what a cool thing for them to go to Raw or SmackDown or try and defend it. I think it'd be really interesting to like, okay, so we won the tag titles. And we're like, have occasional defenses on NXT. But like if it floats, make it float. >> What if instead the women's tag titles were a part of a trio's huge for no reason your thoughts? >> I did want to take a second to talk about Jakar Jackson and Lash legend to Jessica's lash. She's come such a long way. And you can see her getting more comfortable because she's always had a ton of charisma, but it was kind of like she would flip on and off a switch when she was doing certain moves because she was focusing on trying to do the moves. Now it's kind of starting to come together. And someone of her stature in a match like this, I felt like there was some stuff that looked like what people will call sloppy, which is fair, except I like sloppy when you're a big bad-ass woman who's trying to win a match. Like this type of sloppy, cuz it looks like she's knocking people out like it's wrestling. That I like, like that type of sloppy. But she, it was very fun to have her size and athleticism come into play as a way of controlling match pacing. It's something that is unique to tag team wrestling. Cuz she, she coming into it can change the whole tenor of a match, which is cool. So, clear this to that. >> So with the exception of a very quick backstage thing that I'll talk about in a little bit, the women started us off. >> Yes. >> We got this tag match, which again, pretty good. Starting out like showing me something that the fatal influence can become like as the beginnings of that. And then we got a grudge match between Carmen Petrovich and Izzy Dame, which was fine. Both these women are still learning and getting better. And who knows what they're gonna be in a year? Like let's not forget, we both thought there was nothing anybody could do to help port if any stratton. Like she honestly has, maybe, you know what, it's not everybody is cut out to be a wrestler. And then she just all of a sudden figured it out and became great. You know, like it, and all we could do was assess what we had been watching. And what we had been watching is her just not figuring it out. And then all of a sudden, something clicked, now I'm gonna do this. And she's gotten better and better and better. I have no idea what either Izzy Dame or Carmen Petrovich will become. So this was a cool way, like they gave them a reason to want to fight each other. Carmen Petrovich got revenge for being attacked last week, because she went with a stacked pin. Some good stuff, some reversals in there. Alright, cool, Izzy Dame, like I think more than anybody kind of lost out when Keanu James got called up to do absolutely nothing on the main roster. Because they were a unit. And I feel like Izzy Dame probably better slots into what they're doing with fatal influence. Because, like, yeah, here's what you do with Fallon and J.C. Jane. Yeah, yeah, we know that she's one of those N.I.L. people, but look at her. Yes, huge. And all we need to do is say Izzy sick them. And then she beats up people. We like her because of that. There's a difference when all of a sudden you have something like, yeah, we can break our own rules because it helps us out. And you have Izzy Dame, I feel like that would work for her. Maybe they expand fatal influence and they bring Izzy Dame in. Honestly, I don't know what they're doing with that. But I think that there is potential in both Petrovitch and Izzy Dame. When I look at Carmen Petrovitch, I look at her like when I first started to look at Marina Shafir in the sense that I was like, not yet, but she's going to, she's going to figure all this out and when she does, it's going to be so unique to her. And special to her because there's nobody in AEW doing what Marina Shafir's doing really. I don't think there's going to be anybody in NXT kind of moving like Carmen Petrovitch does really once, once everything does come together for her and it's just more reps in time and growth and development and guidance and all those things. That's what we're what we're here for other than to watch the wrestling television show that you and I watch right. So I agree, I think there's a star in there if they give her the time to develop into one. Man, Izzy Dame got, I really like her, she got so screwed when Kiana got called up because I was like, they're not bringing up the act, but good for Kiana, like she's great in the ring, she doesn't need someone necessarily, and then she's been doing nothing. And Izzy Dame kind of has just been floating around, I kind of like your idea of bringing her into fatal influence and tell them that, come on, Jacey Jane being like, she's been around long enough. Like her comedic styling would be perfect for an excuse to get Izzy Dame in there. I prefer clean logic, but like Jacey Jane feels like the kind of heel that betrays her own logic in and out, which is not my favorite kind, but is a very common prototype in pro wrestling. So I think Izzy as a as a heater would be a great way to have her in something that would let her grow to her ceiling, which she's getting close because she's very tall, so those ceilings are low. Yeah, Louis saying that give Carmen some etchisero or. She'll whoa tapes. X, E L, H U A, I'm going to go ahead and just cop to not ever seeing that name or hearing it before. But give them give her some tapes and, and she'll whoa I said it right, she'll whoa I said it right. She'll whoa tapes from CMLL and she can become a spectacular taker in the space of a year. I love it. She said so much. Him and Zach on that refer show was ridiculous. I don't know if. It's just here was almost too unique to be able to say like you can pull this and that from at this level, I think, but he's, he's such a ridiculous combination of things that I think that's true. That's a that's a tough one, but for inspiration, certainly there's there's plenty to look at in there because I'll tell you what I didn't know who that guy was two years ago because I don't really follow CMLL unfortunately. And when I learned I learned quick that guy's incredible so great and I get to see him on Friday at Capitol collision. So against the mighty don't kneel or as my sister calls them the city standing boys. Oh because they don't kneel but they do sit and they do stand. Yeah. Do they also jump? I don't know but we had a very long conversation about what they would do at a Catholic mass for like five minutes. Oh. Because you can't kneel but there's a lot of sitting and standing and dealing at a Catholic mass so she was like what do they do when there's praying do they do the sit. I don't think they would stand that feels disruptive but it was they allowed allowed to lie down. I have people I can ask. Okay cool. Thank you. I'll learn more. Say thank you. Here's scoops. So good. Big if true. So not only do we have those two matches starting us off but also this really cool segment where Jada Parker's being interviewed. And up like if you ask me where where does she come from. I know she's an NIL signing from college or whatever. Not what college LSU but what sport soccer was not going to be what I would have ever said. Yeah. Way too physical. Oh be honest little freaking soccer players. Oh I hurt. I'm so hurt. I'm so hurt. I'm so hurt. But great at selling she should be great at selling. Did you give the guy a red card? Oh my arm. El Swelsky shoots on soccer. I mean you won one did nothing. Great job. Okay so like listen. I would never have guessed soccer. Rugby maybe. You know what I mean? Like yeah women's like sure. Is there a women's elbow in your throat? Is that like a thing that you have that you that they do it at LSU? It was just like elbow to throat. I would have applied to LSU and done my best to get it. Of course. Way you were. Anyway. So that's where she comes from. And she is one of those people who has picked it up immediately. Yeah. And on top of oh I. Passion, drive and patience. The formula for winning championships is also what keeps your ride or die alive. eBay Motors has everything you need to maintain your vehicle and level it up to peak performance. Superchargers, roof racks, exhaust kits, LED headlights and more. Whether you're into speed, power or style. eBay Motors has you covered. With over 122 million parts for your number one rider die. You'll always find exactly what you're looking for. And with eBay guaranteed fit. 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Obviously very athletic and all that kind of stuff. But then she's got an incredible cadence and delivery and if everything feels natural. Like there are, I mean, if you said there aren't five more natural speakers in all of WWE on the women's side, then Jada Parker, I'd probably believe you. Like she just has this absolute, she's so confident. She knows exactly what she wants to say. She also doesn't ever get like, okay, this is what I'm supposed to say, but it never feels like I'm supposed to say this so I'm saying it. She always feels, she always makes it hers. She's really, really, really good. So yeah, I'm very excited about where she in particular will be. 'Cause we're gonna talk in a hot second about what I think the women's division looks like in a few short months and how it will drastically change. And there have some of these women who are just being able to hang on currently will not be able to hang on unless they make serious improvements. And one person who I know will be up to that challenge and will then be able to be up on that level is Jada Parker so good for her. Yes, so she has, and I was thinking about it watching this interview, escaped the I'm an NXT. So I talk like this thing, like she's, for whatever reason, whether she's too smart to take a bad directive or they've just let her be her or whatever it is, or maybe they think that the way to get to more natural speaking is to take that through promos first, I don't know. But she has an incredible amount of charisma and is great with delivery. And she's solid in the ring. She's really, really good. I think I would like to see for her like next step. It's so funny 'cause it's like you mentioned Tiffany Stratton before. You saw her grab onto pieces of it and Jada Parker, I feel like grabbed onto all of it and now she just needs to grab onto it harder or something. So like I think the next step for her is just like a little bit smoother and a little bit. Some of the multi women matches that she's been in have feels like she doesn't quite know where she is in the ring at certain times or whatever, like those tend to be her clunkier moments, which is just reps because out of all the reps that she's had, which is not that many, how many of them are multi women matches five at most? So I think that's what's up next for her. I liked that they also did this sit down interview. It kept it from feeling like after school especially. Like this was good. This was good. I'll take this. And to your point, we have like a hot streak of women's wrestling to really open up the show. Yeah. Jaren Walker saying that Jada is the best female promo in WWE. She is so good. I'm not willing to say that quite yet, but she is way, way up there. And Tim McFowl saying Jada Parker will main event WrestleMania someday. I mean, like if you're looking at women who are in that current level, like up and comers in NXT, I wouldn't put any of them above her. I put her on maybe the same level as Soul Ruka. That's where exactly we're out. You know what I mean? Like because I put I put Roxanne above that level. But like these women who are like obviously below where Roxanne is, like that level, like it's Soul Ruka, Jada Parker, like those are the women I think who can then in five years, you can see them wrestling really ripply. You know what I mean? Like and holding titles. But like yeah, absolutely. I agree. I really liked all this thing. The interview, she was so confident in everything talking about where she came from, all this stuff. And then Roxanne interrupts. And Roxanne is like, you know, you're you're you're very good. But in Who will be a champion one day, but you're not going to beat me. I'm the prodigy. And she keeps insulting Jada until Jadie says, I'm going to slap the taste out of your mouth. And what I thought she meant was on Sunday. You know what I mean? I thought that was what she meant. Come no mercy. I'm going to slap the taste out of your mouth. She didn't say the first football. But I thought it was I thought it was implied. Yeah, I thought it was implied. So I think Roxanne also thought it was implied. Because when she said I'd like to see you try, I think she thought that it was going to be it on Sunday as well. But Jada actually meant like right friggin now. And she stood up and just she like not just the taste, the tongue. Like she her tongue flew out of her mouth. So the the ability to taste also not possible. Gone. Gosh. Wham. And now I love that. So Stephanie McMahon is background is what I learned because that was a Stephanie McMahon. Yeah, here's what the next thing that happens is I think one part interesting in two parts like corny because because of the way that it was handled. And I'll listen, I love Jada and I think she did a great job with this. But also like what they're what they're attempting to do. You know what I mean? Yes. In a way kind of like, you know what? I didn't need this. I was I was hoping for a for like a Roxanne wins, but by the skin of her teeth. And then somebody comes out to challenge her. But when you did this, now I know it's happening. So the surprise is gone. And also the way that they handled it in a way like, Oh, who could it possibly be? Well, it's on honestly, I feel like it's one of two people, but probably one. And so, you know, because Jada Parker slaps her and then looks over and says, what are you doing here? Yeah, I heard about you. You can get some too and walks away. And then Roxanne on her knees frantically searching for her mouthpiece like Mike Tyson and Buster Douglas Clutching her cheek looks over and and has a look of shock and also a fear that crosses over her. And we don't see who it is because nobody was actually standing there, but they don't actually show that. But it's so it's either Julia or Stephanie. And I don't know Julia's schedule, but I know Stephanie's around already. So if it is Stephanie that is the one that's going to show up, that's perfect. That's fine. But if it's Julia, also good, but I don't think it's possibly anybody else. I think the fact that they're trying to be like, Oh, it could be literally anybody. No, it probably can't be. There's like two options, but you know. I think it's Ricky Starks. Now that would be a curveball. Oh my God, we get this great match. Then the Revolution is still fine. Boom. It's not Ricky Starks. Ricky Starks doesn't show up at no mercy. He'd spoil it for you. But if he was going to be there, I don't think AEW would be like, we're going to help them keep that surprise. Yeah. Not even close. So I agree with you and that kind of came across a little bit corny. But I also like, I like when people attempt to do new things on wrestling programs and NXT hasn't really done, I mean they're constantly taking out people backstage. That's annoying. But like the way this was set up and filmed and executed was refreshing in the space. So I always encourage that side of things. I think it might actually be Julia because Julia said after the last stardom show that she's coming. So I do appreciate that if they're going to do this, it kind of could be either one. Like it tips the surprise that somebody's big is showing up. But on a go home, I also don't hate that because you're trying to get us to tune in for the pay. I mean, yeah, wins and losses there. Whether it's Steph, whether it's Julia, I'm very excited. I don't think it's Delta, though she's, I'm excited for Delta showing up. Every time I see something like on her Twitter timeline that comes across, I'm just like that's a star. That is a mega mega mega star. So I think it'll probably be someone with more anticipation and buzz behind them. Not a reflection of Delta, just stature in the industry at this moment. But I'm excited. But what I'm excited to. Something I said during our review of All In was that as currently constructed, that means as of two days ago, AEW's women's division is, I think, the best in the world because of all the potential they have there and just like these, all these women. Like Hikaru Shida being like, I don't know, the sixth most important woman on the roster currently, when you know she could be first at any point when they decide to be. Like, and then all these women who haven't yet had their big moments, I think that they are because that's the kind of wrestling I prefer to watch. That kind of wrestling that they are training in, getting better at. I'm really, really excited at. But once you decide we're going to throw Stephanie Vaker and Delta and Julia in the mix, all of a sudden that might tilt the balance of power back the other way. The problem I have with is who are they going to wrestle in NXT? 'Cause we saw, we see later, and I will be brutally honest about what we see later from a current champion. There are women who are perceived to be by the powers that be at the top level of what women are in NXT, and they're never going to be able to measure up. Not currently, maybe they will one day, but at this point, they can't get in the ring with somebody like Julia or Stephanie and hope to keep up with what they do. So we'll see how fast they go, okay, now you figured out how to work in America, main roster time for all three of you. That's going to be interesting. I'm going to get up there and do that stuff 'cause the women down here just don't have the experience to be able to lock up with these types of women. The people that I think might, Solruca, Tina Parker, obviously Roxanne, but like there are a bunch of women below them. I think Fallon and Jacey could hang, you know what I mean? I think even last legend could like use her power to like make something different, but there's a big drop off to these to these younger people who just are really cutting their teeth. And again, that's not their fault. They're still learning this 'cause they figured out that they wanted to try being a wrestler last week. You know what I mean? So let's give them time to get better. For sure. And you said something when we were talking about the WWE and AEW women's divisions, which right now truly both really good. But the presentations of them are the difference for me, which you articulated really beautifully. I thought in an example of if you look at Ivy Nile, you and I know her potential. But if you were just watching the main roster, you would not understand other than kind of her look and maybe a spot or two, just how high Ivy Nile ceiling is. But on the ROHAW sign, you see that Layla Hirsch and Diamante death match that they did. I mean, two death matches really almost back to back. And you say, okay, Layla, it's not Layla Hirsch's time right now, but damn, when they choose to do that, that's going to be special 'cause I've seen that in algebra. So it's a lot of the presentation, but women's wrestling is in such a wonderful and healthy place. To your point, when these three women show up, the game is going to change. The game is going to change. And the best way for young talent to get better is by working with the people that are more forged in this. So I think it's going to be incredible stuff. And I like Julia Stavacher and Delta. I can't think of like three stylistically more different character-wise, more different women. All absolute powerhouses is what they do. But my God, I'm already ready for Delta and Rhea Ripley. So we'll see how long they're wrapped. Carlos says that he has two of Roxy's teeth embedded in his screen. So that's, I just flew that. She would have to hurt, too, 'cause she took that, like... Yeah. Ryan Chikini says, "I want soul Ruka versus Delta." Yeah. Steph, Vakir versus Kendall Gray, then Kalani, and Julia versus Roxanne. Yeah. I mean, I think that Julia versus Roxanne is certainly the plan. I would say Vakir over Kalani should be the plan as soon as possible. And then we'll see what they do with Delta 'cause... You think that's the plan? Would you lay odds on that plan? No, I wouldn't because I know how bad they are at this. But I would like to. If you wanted to lay odds, I could tell you where. I would lay odds that they'll do a ridiculous finish to that main event on Sunday. I bet all my house on that. I would have, until like a minute ago, I would have laid odds that Alex would have supported me in every single segue that I've ever done. But here we are. You should know better. I should know better at this point. But if you want to bet on wrestling, if you want to bet on anything... My goodness. 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That was mean. You're mean. Yeah. I am that. So. Yeah. Yotta. There's, there is. I'm saving that for later. I'm saving that for later because it involves the other thing that makes me happy. Well, they interview Pete Don who's challenging Trick Williams to a match for next week. Feeling his, feeling his oats because he won a match last night. So he challenged Trick to a match for next week on the show. Not the No Mercy because Lord knows Trick's going to be busy doing something at No Mercy. But next week. The only thing I didn't like about this because I like Pete Don so much. He's like, he just won the spot in a tournament for the IC title. Like I, I have the same gripes as you but they're not as magnified until this shit happens. Like he moved on into the international intercontinental title tournament on Raw yesterday. And I certainly don't think he's winning that. I think they're going to eat all the way to the IC title. But I, for him to be like the end game has always been the NXT title. And I'm like, why are you chasing a different title literally yesterday in the tournament? So it's the inconsistencies among me from time to time. But then when you throw gasoline on the fire of like, this is all, this is the end game. I'm like, but then why are you doing this whole other thing? Yeah. That gets it away. Yeah. But that's great because I love Pete Don. Yeah. I mean, this is the other thing. It's like this is what I, this is what I hated about it from the beginning. Is like Pete Don is being pulled in two different directions that are directly contrary to each other. Now he should be like, he's like, okay, well, after I become intercontinental champion, then I'm taking your ass out trick. Why would you be obsessed with trick Williams, who is no threat to you and doesn't do anything until you win this intercontinental title thing that you're involved in? Why are you doing both at the same time? It's just, yeah, stop. It's also from four-door soup and we just have to go and clip this and send this directly to Sean and Jimmy Van. Can we get a select here where I can get just sour grabs and none of the other stuff? Please? Yes. It will be a hundred dollars a month to pay directly to pay anyway. So you just Venmo us and we just copy and paste everything that's on fire and we'll select and put it on sour. Yeah. There you go. That's great. You can just search sour grabs as a filter on there, but I once again have to ask, why so many doors on the soup? We've talked about this the other day. I don't mean to bring it up, but I feel like it needs to be mentioned on the main. Right. I'm a soup hoop. Like I said, I want two doors on my soup max, four-door soup. I think it's so that when you want to take a road trip with your friends, that you want every once and once to pile into the soup without doing the thing where you push the seat forward and have to scrunch into the back? I guess. That feels like a lot of doors for... Is it also like... Is it a cup of soup? Is it a bowl of soup? There's a lot of... I have a lot of questions. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. So, let's talk about that later. Let's talk about this thing. Wes, Lee, and Zachary Wentz had the... Yay! Boo. I have never heard gentle booze and gentle applause piped in so often during a segment. Like they didn't want to overpower it, but every time Wes Lee started talking about stuff, they would be like... They would just be the same general... Boo, I guess. It cut off so abruptly. And it cut off so abruptly. And it cut off so abruptly. And then whenever they wanted to like cheer something, Zach Wentz said it was like... Yay! Kind of. It was just gentle. And like in the background. And then my favorite part was watching everybody behind them when I'm supposed to be hearing booze and cheers just doing this. Like just... Nope. They were all out there looking like... Tomoguro, Ishii doing commentary. Just sitting here, no expression. Arms crossed. Just... What? Like that's the entire crowd, but I'm hearing... Boo. Yay! Maybe. You know? And it's just... Also like this is a hot angle. Why were you piping in crowd reactions for a crowd that's usually very hot for stuff like this? I guess they weren't hot for this. And so they had to make them seem hot? Yeah, I don't know. It was weird. It was weird. And then we had the whole thing of like... I don't know. At one point he says, "I don't know how many times I gotta tell you this." Well, just count the number of times they told you to say it in the script. You are not on my level. We are on a different level. There are levels to this and you're not on mine. Like I don't know how many times you ran that through chat GBT Thesaurus. But yes, we get it. Wesley considers himself to be on a different level from Zachary Wentz. If there are minimum two levels, there is one level that Wesley is on and a separate alternative level on which Zachary Wentz finds himself. How many different ways are you going to script Wesley to say the same thing in a five minute standoff? So it's like Zach Wentz, Wesley, and then Will Osprey, who's so elevated. Yeah. Those are the levels that you have. I feel like they would have benefited from a shorter promo, a more efficient promo with more description. Less time, more description. Because there's something very much too, and I thought Wesley's standalone promo was excellent last week. There's definitely something too. I'm a WWE superstar. You're just a TNA champ. Like, I'm okay. I'm a WWE superstar and you're just a TNA wrestler. Like, oh, man. Like isn't that weird to be like, we have a partnership with TNA. What we're going to do is denigrate their entire company and make their, all their performers seem less than. I mean, but like most, most crossover promotionships are like invasion angles and security angles. I'm sorry if that's inconvenient to what you were saying, but it's true. Yeah, I wish they had, you know what it was, there was no like, there was no heart of TNA stuff from Zach Wentz. There was no like, hey, or at least nothing that really hit home on like, those were your roots. You don't get here without being there. Or like, there wasn't like enough sincere emotional appeal for me on the Zach Wentz side. That's who you really are. Like, I don't recognize the superstar version of you or like speaking to what the spirit of TNA, I think would have gone farther. Yeah, agreed. But I mean, I'm excited to see this match on Sunday. I think these two guys, like they never got to have the inevitable in WWE. Inevitable, we broke up and now we're going to have a feud match. They never got to have that. And I think that whenever you're in a tag team in WWE, you know for a fact they're going to break us up eventually. So, I think you fantasy book, what your match against each other is going to be when you're going up and down the roads. You know what I mean? Yes, of course. And they never got a chance to do that. Here's a deal. There's, you know what? Zach, I don't know if you've considered this yet. But there's not going to be anybody to push you when you do a moonsault onto nobody. You know what I mean? When you do a moonsault. When you do a moonsault, when there's nobody underneath you and then a guy has to push you. That guy's not going to be there because he's going to be, I think it'd be really funny if like Wesley was laying there and he did a moonsault like four feet to the left of him and then just landed on nothing because he forgot Wesley isn't there to push him onto Wesley. That'd be really funny. That's the only thing I don't like about these guys is that ridiculous move. I'm never going to stop. I am, I mean, come on, you know this about me. I mean, we're really fun. I hate fun. And I also hate friendship, you know. And also, I am deadly serious when I talk about wrestling. Obviously. Yeah, so. Yeah. Well, come on, that's a fun move. He has the headlogged driver Alex, he'll be fine. I mean, yeah, I'm sure he will. He will have to pull out different moves. So Wesley versus Jack Wentz, Matt, I think I think we'll have a very good chance of absolutely stealing the show. Yes, I agree. Especially with the main event now have it's especially with, yeah, with the main event just being built around shenanigans. Yeah, it's so. I think that there's this should be a really fun evening, I hope. I think everybody's going to really try and show out, but I think Wesley and Zach Wentz are going to try and like really up the game. Like, that might be a one like we're going to start with this first and then they do the follow that mother effort when they walk back to the curtain kind of thing. Do you think this is where Julia shows up since Ricky Starks is showing up for Roxanne? Oh. You know, she might. Julia versus Wesley, signing me up for that. Oops, I did a silly and thought of a really fun match. Oh, yes. Jamie Pringle says, "H.P.K., learn from V.K.M. horrible booking all day." Yeah, well, you know, it is the way it works. It's the three letters. I think that match is going to be great. I wish they hadn't specifically chose this way to build it, but it is what it is. You have enough personal animosity between each other without having to be like, you're just a TNA guy, but I'm a WWE superstar. I don't know, just feels kind of there to me. I felt like it was good. Like the initial reasoning for the turn, I thought, was really good and desperately needed because Wesley was like one of the few very organic over baby faces that they had, so you better give me a good reason for doing it. And they did. It just feels like it went on a week too long. Like they should have just kind of like, yeah, made the challenge last week and taken this one off. But it's a double taping. What are you going to do? Yeah. What are you going to do? Let's see here. Do the do. Yep, let me do that right here. So we still have no idea what the hell is up with Wendy Q. Yeah, tell us what's going on. Does anybody have a date for when she first appeared as this version of herself, like in the flesh? Not the date where she did the weird like thing where she brushed her teeth but didn't actually and that we saw like her weird clown makeup. But the date when she first arrived was, is it two months ago? I feel like we've given them ample time to actually tell us what the hell is going on. They should have explained it by now. I would have hoped they would have done it before the match but they have to do it by after the smash. Yeah. Meaning the title match, not the one we just watched, I know June 11th. It's been two and a half months, come on people. Two and a half months feels like they're never going to have her tell us anything. Like they're just like, this is who she is now, accept it and we're going to move on. Because she's treated. I mean, she, this is a thing. She's a, she's a on screen. She has a functionally mute sleep paralysis demon. Which I, okay. It's awesome. Creepy. Like, I would like to know how she got from what she was to this but also you can't, a functionally mute sleep paralysis demon who tweets, hey Kalani, just want to let me know. Special guest. The Super's Pharmacy Care is making it easy to get vaccinated. 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You know what I mean, they could have done like a Wendy Jew was confronted and her creepy ass at this. Yeah. So the person who she, if you saw spoilers from last week, the person that we knew that the person that she found was from TNA. Yeah. It was Rosemary. Which is very, very, very, very cool. Former, former knockouts champion, four time, former knockouts tag champion, like, like, all kinds of commitment to the bit has been from when she was with, with the decay stuff. Like all she's been doing great stuff since I was back when I was watching TNA every week to like write a little blurb about it for Fightful back in like 2016, 2017. She's been doing really, really good stuff ever since then. I don't watch the show anymore, but every, every so often something will come across my feed of Rosemary doing something great and I'll watch it and go that she never lost it, man. She's always doing really, really great stuff. And so she comes in to face Kalani and I don't, I don't know what exactly it was that like just Rosemary's been doing this for a really long time, okay, really long time. Kalani hasn't and this match was bad. Like it was a, like nothing. They didn't seem to know where the other one should be and it just feels like in the performance center, the person you're working with, you've been like, you spend time every day in the ring learning stuff, going back and forth and Rosemary shows up and has a match and maybe you've had 40 minutes to work with them, but not hours like you'd do with all the other people you wrestle with and maybe this didn't have chemistry, but like it wasn't just like not having chemistry. It was like, I don't even know like where you're supposed to be to do an arm drag. You know, Rosemary was really trying to be in a place and slowing down and being a spot to help Kalani and she just wasn't there. And this is the thing about Kalani that I always thought was like she's got all the athletic ability in the world and I feel like that can be thought of by the person who has the athletic ability and also people watching as like a cheat code. Oh, well, you can do all the stuff. So you're ready and you're ready to the point where we're going to put you make you the first ever NXT North American Women's Champion. And she's just not yet. I'm not saying she won't get there. I'm not saying she won't get there soon. But she's not yet and we're bringing in all these women, three of them, to be exact. Who are levels, he's talking about the West Lee thing. There are levels above what this is. And I don't want her to, when somebody is thrown out there too early and given the spotlight that they're not quite ready for, they can take it all to heart. And that's not I do not want this to be thought of as that. I just think that there needs to be a rethinking of what we're doing with Kalani to help her get to the point where we want her to be because we assume she was already there. And she's not yet yet, just not yet. And she needs some more help. You know what I mean? >> Yeah, I was. She looks, I hate being harsh, but she looks lost in there tonight. She did not look like she was ready for a wrestling match. And you're right, when it's performance center controlled, Cody Rhodes spoke about this at interviews at length. You can rehearse, you can rehearse the entire match if you want. But if someone's coming from a different world, maybe that's not the case, or maybe that's not how they work, but this felt very disjointed. And God, there's not really another word for this, but it's not intended to sound harsh. It seems like Kalani got exposed in a way today. And I don't mean like in a ha ha ha way, it just means like this is the thing that she used to go work on really badly now. And I was actually thinking of, you mentioned it earlier, I was thinking of Tiffany Stratton and how she had all this time before they put the belts on her. They booked a rain poorly, but they gave her a ton of time to cook. >> Yeah, they did. >> And then when she started to put it all together, you were like, all right, Kalani hasn't been afforded that time. So it just feels like they hot-shotted the title with her ahead of her abilities. I have full faith that she will get there. The athleticism is freakish, it's incredible. But wrestling is hard, man, wrestling is really, really hard. >> It is. >> It's not going to be a strategy, there's placement, there's storytelling, there's all this stuff. So letters, give her more ingredients to cook with and she'll get there. >> She does an amazing split leg and moonsault. That's not wrestling, that's gymnastics. Like that's the, that was a thing we're poking fun at because that's how they presented her as gymnastics, gymnastics. And if that's where she comes from, that's fine, but that can't be all that she is. And like that's part of the creative thing. And that's creative, is separate from figuring out where she is training-wise and helping her maximize where she's at and then get better to be on a different level. The thing, oh, I lost it, I had a thing and then it went away. But I just, I want to see everybody succeed. >> Well, next time you have a thing and it goes away. >> Bluechoo, main event performance, main event confidence and a main event deal. Go to bluechoo.com and use the code Fightful and you will get Bluechoo with their first shipment for free. Shipment, yeah, yeah, I said shipment. No waiting in line at the pharmacy, no awkward doctor's visits. You take their online exam and then if approved, it ships straight to your door. That's right. Same act of ingredients as Viagra and Cialis, but in a chewable form and much more affordable. How can you pass up on this? 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Then on me, then yes, while you stand back my last one. And you hate friendship, so that's what you get for ruining my bet online one. It's called the Counterpunch Alex. Look it up. If you're listening in audio form, Alex is going through several chats where the chat is praising me because I did such a good job on that segue and pointing out that it is my revenge tour and it doesn't even involve Dominic Mysterio. I'm that good. I'm on the... Me, huge drop, Wesley dropped seg ones. Yeah. I'm the other level. I mean, it's back, sing, Tom of Valley, and it's true, it's undoubtable. Yeah. Acknowledging. Yes. Oh. Yes, oh, once, yeah, I'm there for you. I wonder if you... You've got to run it back. ZZ-E-Felocca, you've got to run it back. You missed the segue. I'm sorry. You've got to do it. So, yeah. Oh, the vignettes of suit paralysis when did you begin on May 21st, 2024? So like, you knew this was the new character as early as May, and now we are at the end of August. It's like, school wasn't out when you started the thing. School is back in session. All of summer vacation you had to explain this and you never did. I feel like that's... Yeah. Honestly, though, when we see at the end of this, Rosemary takes the pinfall, and then we get some Wendy Chu spookiness from the Titan Tron and the music and the lights, and then she sneaks up behind Kalani Chokes route, and Rosemary kind of crawls toward the lifeless body of Kalani Jordan, and then on Twitter she was like, "I'm going to have fun here." I love the idea of Rosemary and Wendy Chu becoming like a deal for a while. Cross them over. Like, both. Like, had said Wendy Chu over there to do stuff with Rosemary. Sure. Like, this is really cool. I think I, like, said, like a few weeks ago, maybe even a month ago, when they started doing stuff, who would you like to see crossover from TNA over here? I was like, "Put Rosemary with Wendy Chu," and they did it. So sometimes, like, the things that I come up with, Sean, thank you for listening, Sean Michaels, to that, and only, apparently, that thing. You never listen to anything else, I say, but that's fine. Good. Good job. Thank you. They listened to us while we wanted to open FEMI and do cuts in too, so there you go. Yeah, that's true. Listen to that as well. We got that weird thing with Tatum, though, so is Rosemary going to be, like, a linchpin in that? I'm intrigued to see where that goes. I hope it's somewhere good. Oromensa trying to be, you know, nice and comforting and supportive to Jakara and Lash after having lost, and it's -- he says something. It's like my father always said, and then I didn't register what he had said because he walked Brian Pillman with -- I don't think you could put Luke Perry's sideburns on top of a chin strap beard. That just feels like something you shouldn't be able to do, but he did, and he has -- He's very brave, with the facial hair. Yeah. And so he says, you know, like, blah, blah, blah, whatever your father and all these sob stories or whatever, and Oromensa says, this is rich coming from you who has no father figure. Or lack -- who lacks a father figure, he said, and then we got a little brawly brawl between these two fellas. I mean, it feels like Christian should be involved in this angle. Christian, like, I feel like, you know, Oromensa was like, you know, you study from the greats. You obviously studied from Christian. Yeah, that makes sense. She's going to show up at a turtle night next week. Yeah. Oromensa versus, you know, versus old Lexus King, you know, I guess. And then maybe Lexus King gets the best of Oro, but then no Amdar comes back, and we get maybe face no Amdar versus Lexus King, but, like, shouldn't maybe face no Amdar come after Ethan Page? Or is he, like, moved beyond that? So -- No, I did not watch Oromensa. No, Ethan Page and Pins not during matches for 150 weeks straight, preceded by him attacking Ethan Page for four years, to not eventually get to Noam's arm versus Ethan Page. That's a match I needed, it's a match I want! Gimme! No, Amdar coming back. No, Amdar was always a baby face. I don't know what you're talking about, but in the women's tag match too, they -- when they lost, they kind of had said, like, "We lost our way," and I felt like it was implying that the leadership figure being God is affecting their ability, so hopefully Noam dar is coming back to steer the ship, which I think is a good story. That makes losses matter in an important way, which they always, fricking, should. But here you go, this is not -- this is what -- you do the thing where you watch NXT long enough, you tend to figure out what the patterns are. Noam dar will finally -- he'll come back, he'll, you know, he'll, you know, smack up Lexus King to protect Oromenza, and then he'll go after Ethan Page, and want to match against Oromenza Page, and he'll get his match versus Ethan Page, it'll be on a regular episode of NXT, and then Lexus King will come out and cost Noam dar that match, and then Noam dar will enter into a seven-month feud with Lexus King, while Ethan Page loses the title to, I don't know, somebody, Trick Williams maybe, I don't know, and then that title will change hands three more times, while Noam dar is still locked in a feud with Lexus King. I just want to sell one to book Ethan Page, right, in the whole wide world. Sadly, of all the places that he has wrestled, like on television, T-Day was front of the closest, and of all the ones I've seen him in, I think X-site wrestling was the second closest, which is really sad, no offense to my independent promotion, but my God, what are we doing? Chase Yu is in an actual classroom now, I remember that was bought for them by Rich Holland, and he's like, "Rudgerite on all, I never said, I said I'd never be part of a group of gun, but you all accept me, and now you're a family, I know these tag titles mean the most to me that anything ever has, and I'll tell you that as long as we still have these tag team titles, I'll always have your back," which is implied also that as soon as we lose these tag team titles, I'm definitely going to turn on you, I want everyone to understand the implications of what I'm saying, while we have the titles, I'm good. As soon as we lose the titles, I'm no longer good, and I'm going to definitely attack you, so just as long as we know, and then it comes Nathan Frazier and Axiom, who talk about how they've learned that they could even after fighting each other for so long, after so many continents, and now they're their best friends, they realize our tag titles, they make their stronger together, he says, "Listen, obviously, everybody in NXT loves Chase Yu," I'm like, "Well, I mean, I don't think that's obvious," I don't think that's obvious. "Everybody but Alex loves you." But it's just too bad that after we beat you guys at No Emergency, take our titles back, Chase Yu is going to crumble, and I'm like, "Yeah," so as soon as Ridge loses the title, then he turns on Andre Chase, and then we get Ridge beating Duke Hudson three or four times, that's going to be a fun thing for you to watch. There's some need to be today. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I wish, I wish, I'm sorry, I wish it wasn't the case, but- You don't have to be so honest all the time. I've listened, there's two things they could do, that he takes out, this is what I, honestly, what I would do and what I hope they will do is either he has Chase, Andre Chase is the one who finally puts down the Ridge Holland Rebellion, or Duke Hudson is because the first thing that Ridge does is completely lay waste to Andre Chase, like put him in a K-fabe medical center or whatever, and like even do things where like everyone comes, like he's in traction in a medical center, like he's in like those giant full body casts, like in the old movies when people really get hurt, and then have everybody visit him in the hospital, and then he like, when one for me, come on Duke, when one for me, you know, when one for Chase, you know- When one, I think you have that. Yeah, I'm into it, let's do it. I suppose Duke got my screen and let him win shit. Right. Earlier in the night, there was a segment where the ladies were watching film of Eddie Thorpe DJ stuff, and then Shanti comes up. You guys were at, you guys go to the, to the live events and then stay for parties, then I shall also go to the live events because I am a hound dog who loves ladies and would like to have sex with all of the ladies, and then he says, so Eddie Thorpe, you all, you are a DJ. Does that mean that you also love the ladies? Like, I love the ladies and would like to have sex with the ladies, and Eddie Thorpe is like, no, I DJ, these are my friends. You, what? A platonic relationship with a woman? That is an impossibility. But tell me about you being a DJ some more, and then the beach walks by with a chair and starts beating the hell out of Idus Edo Fe in the inner room, and yeah, I don't know why we're doing with this, with Shanti the Adonis as the, as the guy who, you know, who views women as objects. It's not like, it's not fun, like, it's not a fun thing to watch, but, okay. I figured it out. It's because much like everybody on, on Twitter, he can't be women just like a platonic friendship, so it's for that crowd, it's for the crowd that's like, I don't understand how friendships with women were. And there's a lot of those people out there that were all in my mentions. I actually kind of liked today is a little bit better because he just so clearly articulated this thing. It was just like, well, you just, yeah, platonic relationships with women. I was like, I'm just saying it was actually better. But also, like, I feel like there's a very deep connection for real with Eddie Thorpe and music and his roots. But when they were like, he was like, nah, man, it's about the music. It's all about the music. It's all about the music. It's like, what we say after school especially, it kind of feels, that's what it is, which Eddie Thorpe is generally not. So I don't, I don't want him to go in too much of that direction. But, uh, Shanti actually just saying head on what he was doing was actually, that kind of popped me a little bit. Will Chisholm saying, good answer by Eddie since he is with Dakota. So he, it is cute. And I ship them. However, it was very good of him to be like, yeah, no, um, we're not doing a thing where I'm dating one of these faceless ladies back. Yes. Now we're just not doing that. Like, you know, but I honestly, it showed respect, of course, not for women. Not at all. But, uh, Ashanti, the Adonis being like, which one of those is your girl? I don't want to horn in on your action. Yeah. You know what I mean? That was nice of him to be like, I respect men, not women. I don't respect women, but I respect you. As a fellow man, of those three ladies, which one of them is your property because I will steer clear of that one because I respect you and I will go not being a woman at all. Speak to one of their fathers. Here's the other thing. True with, with Cyclos. So true. The, the, the, Lexus versus Eddie, if you did nothing for nobody, look like it wasn't like, like, Lexus Cling got elevated by winning the final match and, and Eddie's got like a cast on his arm. So he's apparently like, you know, like he's, he's actually hurt, which sucks. Um, uh, but anyway, so he, so a beach walks into another room nearby and starts beating the hell out of Ederson O'Fay with a plastic chair. Uh, and Eddie Thorpe goes in there to stop that from happening. And then later we got Malik Blade versus Ederson O'Fay. You'll remember that last week, Malik Blade and Ederson O'Fay decided to stick up for their friend, the beach, by beating the hell out of song spears, uh, in an unprovoked fashion. And so to stick up for his mentor, the beach has decided to declare war on Ederson O'Fay and Malik Blade. Um, and Malik Blade got to be really athletic in this and the beach got to be unhinged. Uh, and, uh, he won. He's, the, the beard is, the beard is coming in nicely. The mustache, not so much. So it looks very, uh, it's, it's a weird look for him. Yeah, a little off-kilter. That's what he's trying to do, I guess. Uh, it never turns out well for poor Malik Blade and Ederson O'Fay. No, it doesn't. It should. Especially in a singles competition. We've, we've seen them have like really, really good tag matches. Yes, we have. And we've seen them booked to lose tag matches in three minutes. So like, pick, pick one, because we know they got the athletic ability and they got the sense as tag, as a tag team to be really, really good. There's no excuse for them to like, be stopped, started so many times. And then to be like, okay, well, we need you to lose this match to the good brothers in two minutes. Even though like two months ago, you had a 25-minute banger with the blurry boys, you know what I mean? Honestly, it's something that I would consider one of the best tag team matches of the new era. Yes. Um, yeah, pick a lane for sure. Yeah. And also, I'd, what's so, what's so wrong with Brinley Reese, man? She's just gone from all this now. I guess, yeah. But she, yes, except for the fact that Sean Spears brought her up kind of nonchalantly, and they were like, I will, we will murder you where you stand for, for speaking the name of Brinley Reese. Yeah. How dare you? Yeah. It was weird. Um, Hank and Tank talking about how they're going to do things for their Instagram channel at no mercy. And then OTM comes up on them and be like, you guys don't have any belts. You, you are bad. And then, um, Hank and Tank say, well, you don't have any belts either. And they said, well, that's different. And then, uh, they decided that we're going to have a match with each other. So maybe that'll be next Tuesday. I'm not sure. Uh, yeah. Are Hank and Tank just hosts of things now? Yes. They're hosts of things, and they beat, they pinned Carl Anderson. I wanted to make sure I just said that into the camera, just for Louise. They are basically just hosts of things with an Instagram channel. And yet, they also pinned Carl Anderson. That was for you, Louise. I wanted to remind you of that, because just like, you're just mean today. I'm just, I'm really mean today. I am. Rude honest to God. So rude. Alpha Bill saying it's true. It feels like out the mud are actually still in the mud. And, um, yeah, Jada Parker just like went like kind of straight through that. Yeah. So, uh, the, um, the, the actual in ring main event, um, tonight was, uh, Joe coffee versus Javan Evans. We saw Cedric out there helping him out last week, but he wasn't here tonight. I thought he would be ringside for this match with, with Javan. I thought it would like lead to a tag match, uh, with, you know, Javan and, um, and, uh, and Cedric, and maybe Cedric would like rope in a shanty away from like, can I, can I pry you away from these women who want nothing to do with you for five minutes so we could have a triple, so we have a six man tag. But I just was Javan Evans versus Joe coffee with the, with the gallows boys at ringside, but no Cedric. Yeah. I, I, I, I want Cedric back in this because I liked the idea of him mentoring Javan Evans, but maybe that'll come next week. That's why I thought maybe just because of the double taping. This was just like that part of it was just a little bit off. This was pretty good. Javan Evans is, uh, gets interviewed on his way to the ring and is just, he's just, he, like, he fell out of the sky and landed and is perfect. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, like, everything, like, he's obviously there are holes in his game because of what he is as a wrestler. But as far as like, there's, I have, I have a low battery on my, uh, oh no, oh these, I have low battery. Oh no. So yes, I have a thing that will plug in if I can find it. I already used my blue shoe segway on something. I know. Come on now. I know. I have a thing that will plug in if I could, now this is too short. I could, I could put it in here and do this battery low anyway. It's fine. We'll get through the rest of the, the show. I don't think it's that low. Anyway, Javan Evans, his whole different, uh, his whole demeanor, like the character, he's like, what he's trying to do. There's, it's, it's, it's exactly what his character needs to be. Yeah. He's so confident. He's like, he can crack jokes. He can riff on, on who he is. All of it. It's great. And then in the ring, like all the stuff he does, it feels like he, it feels like he just does it without thinking. Like here's, it's a, this is honestly, it's kind of a crazy comp, but I'm confident in it. Um, there, there years ago, there was a, if people who don't follow sports, there was a running back for the Detroit lions named Barry Sanders. Yeah. And, and he just did things. Like he saw three steps ahead of where he was like, okay, so I'm running this way. There's defense here. If I cut back through here, but then cut back this way, there's going to be an alley and he would just find ways of getting through 11 guys who were trying to murder him and he would just see things. It was like the rest of the, of the world moves slower through his eyes. And honestly, like, this is what I'm watching Javan Evans, like he is actually, um, he's, he, he's the one. He's Neo. He actually watches things move slower around him so he knows where to be. He's really, really great stuff. Couldn't use Libby on Bella as your example. You know, you're on here with Stu. No, I, I couldn't because, because that would be nice. You're mean today. But Libby on, Libby on Bell was, was a fine running back in his day, but he was no Barry Sanders. No, but he had that same thing where it did feel like everything else slowed down for him. That's it. Like when you said that, that actually like maybe think of that. Um, there's just an incredible amount of ease around everything he does. And I love it because it translates into everything. It translates into promos. It translates in the way in the in ring execution and the in ring storytelling. It's, it's evident in all of him. And it reinforces my belief that you don't get this good without, um, I'm so sad. That's not dusty. You don't get this good without working really, really, really hard because you definitely don't get that comfortable without just doing this shit a million times over. Um, so that, that was really, really cool to see. He's incredible. He's, he's an absolute phenom. There is no ceiling for this guy. And I don't want to say that because he's bouncy. I say that because, uh, he has just, there is no ceiling for him. There is no ceiling for him. So I'm very excited to see what's to come from him. I, I really want to just be quiet so we can hear the sounds that are being made of the other side of things. Can you guys hear it? [Laughter] Oh, now I just heard myself. Whoa. I think a pair of Barry Sanders, Tulavion Bell. I compared Alex's takeaway about Barry Sanders and meant to apply to Tulavion Bell as well. Where it was like the whole game slows down and you can just, you could just make paths like on delay from what other running backs could do. All right, so hold on. I just said, what Alex is doing then? A pair of headphones that actually plug into my laptop like I'm in tooth and then four. Hello. Hello. Oh, great. I was gonna read my dad's hour time. I have tiny things here. There we go. Done. Apparently, I didn't know this. I cannot use the headphones, my Bluetooth headphones, while they are charging. So really, I had to like root around and find these things. But anyway, this is what happens when I mean this. Honestly, it's karma. It's karma. It's karma. It's karma. All right, you said for you, it's not as the great God said. That's true. So, once you know what, Mark Coffey and Wolfgang messing around with Jevon Evans causes him to do one of his weird little Ozcutter things to the wrong Galis brother and then Joe Coffey hits him with the with the with the lariat to win. So this means we're getting more of this because the feud isn't over until Jevon Evans wins it. But we'll see if they, excuse me, add Cedric Alexander to it as well. I feel like this is what they had lined up for Joe Henry and then it moved too fast or something. It feels like what they started with him, but this is a good program for Jevon to be facing people that feel established and important on the show or they at least should because they had a very, very long title right even though Booker T doesn't know who they are. That's a good title adjacent program for Jevon to be working. Just kind of weird because it felt like we had also teased this alliance with Trik Williams and then it was like JK. I'm with Pete Don JK. I'm the special guest referee. But we'll talk about that nonsense in a second because nonsense I feel like feels like an appropriate word at this point. I am actively rooting for Ethan Page so hard and everything he does. And I'm like, yeah. So we have a six person tag between the no quarter catch crew because Jevon Heights is still in Japan. So it's Dempsey and Miles E. Ralph's born and and Renson Claire versus Big Anch and Stacks and Chris Fino. But as they're walking out there, two middle age bearded Goombas walk in and are like, hey, hey Tony, there's something you got to see. He's like, no, after the match. But we really got a talk to you. No, after the match. Oh, I don't know. I'm looking at this thing in my phone. I don't really know what it is, but I know it's bad. And we got to talk to him about it. We just can't wait to left it a match. And so the match happens. It's fine. It's a mixed tag. Big Anch gets to do some fun stuff. She did like a almost like a running like counter. She countered Charlie Dempsey running at her into a Death Valley driver on the outside. Yeah. That was cool. Big Anch. Big Anch. Big Anch is doing it. Yeah. And now and that's just DVD Anch. So this during the match, those same two bearded middle age Goombas walk out. Can we not get him some more dudes than just two? Can it? Can he? Can he? Can he? Can he have like eight guys? But he can't leave me two. He they come out and he sees what they've shown him. And he leaves in a huff. This is like the second match of the entire night of doing it out of order. And so at the end, I thought that little distraction and Tony D not being out there would would have cost the boys his boys the match and his gal. But they went with a shatter machine. Luca Cuisavino is a really good hot tag guy. Yes, he was very, very fun. This is this is fun. This is a lot of fun. I think that that as a group, they will be ready-ish for a mine roster full faction call up. Sometimes maybe mania after mania. Like if like like when they do the draft, yeah, if they're doing the draft in May 2025, I think they could like really they could be ready by then. I would not have said that a couple of months ago, but I think Cuisavino and Anch have improved to the to the to the point where maybe you could call them all up as a group. Yeah, we're just getting to see more of them too, right? But don't forget to go to cruisavinolaw.com because it's the funniest shit in the world. But it needs to be updated though, because there's a lot of stuff that you're dragging off on here still. But let's get let's get a new webmaster. I'm sure you can threaten someone's life into it. You know what I mean? But yes, that was actually very very fun. And Luca, he's still what we had kind of spotted from the beginning, right? Like we we wanted him to be a part of this act, feels like they have been putting the work in there, and it also depends on what you want to do with them on the main roster. Like there were so many three three guys at a girl factions going for a while. But like we've been in this boat for a while, so I'm I hope they stay the course. I hope they just get more reps for the underlings of this. Like I think that'll go a long way. So yeah, keep getting them in the ring because there's some very high potential with all this. So all the way at the end of the night, we get Tony D walking in through the kitchen of the restaurant where he always does his place. He says, Mr. DiAngelo, I couldn't stop him. He's in your room. My room. Yeah, your your room is the dining room of the restaurant. Like it's not like it's a private dining room. There's a lot we can see there's lots of other tables in it. But he's in your room and he walks in and it's OBA, fully dressed to the nines, sitting there alone with a glass of wine at Tony's table. And and the the interaction between the two of them was everything that I wanted it to be. Like Tony and OBA, this needs to be the beginning of a very long feud. Usually the feuds in in NXT are too long. This should be very long because I need more of these of them together. Really good. Talking to each other. They're very, very, very, very, very, very good at being both of these things. Yes, somehow I did not wanted to mention this. But yes, OBA family is a bracelet curve. It's it's fine. He had many bracelets, not just one. So I'm assuming that they don't really mean as much to him as the one might for somebody else. This this is really, really, really good between the two of them. You're saying like you are the doll in the vin next, but I am the Lula. This is so good. So good. This was inevitable. You know, the Don, the ruler, we're always going to come to blows. But you you like I do not one thing I do not stand for is disrespect. I'm the same way, honestly. And I feel like this is very disrespectful. You coming in here, you know, coming into my scaring all these people. And I was like, are you going to pull out the camera and show that like all the tables have been smashed? And he says, I could lay waste to this entire place, all these people and you, but I will not do that because I don't need to, which honestly, I really love from him. But I don't understand what the emergency was other than there's a very large black guy in our restaurant. And that is the part that I feel like there's a blind spot to from the writers of like what's the what's the emergency? Like if if he had walked in and it was him at the only good looking table in the entire restaurant with a feast of things, he's made everybody bring him one of everything from the menu. He's sucking on a crab leg or whatever and he's like, and he's got a big like he's just he's looks to looks great, but he's he's got three bottles of wine that are now empty because because he can drink all the alcohol in the world and they wouldn't give him a buzz because the giant man like but then you spin around and Tony sees that every table in the entire place has been smashed in half. That would be cause for these goombas to be like, we got to get the done. We can't stop this guy. But if he's just sitting there waiting for you, like I don't understand what the emergency was other than there's a very large black guy in our restaurant. We don't know what to do about it. I don't know that feels like it's maybe not the best thing. So maybe not kind of like Sam Punk whipping the only black security guard yesterday with the strap. Yeah, a little more awareness would be good. But just kudos on these segments. This felt like when Tony had these with Santos, like what it's multi man versus multi man when it was family versus family that was so good. And Oba has the power of a thousand men. So it's almost the same. But like this, the, this was inevitable thing. Like, oh, it's just so good because he's always, he's always thinking like a mob boss, right? Like he always has these, these eyes out for things and stuff like that. This was, this was really, really excellent. And God, like there's not a lot booked here that we love, but like just stay the course with Oba Femi because they're obviously putting a lot of care into it. And he's just so, so excellent. Listen, I honestly really loved him saying I could destroy this place. I could lay waste to everybody in here. No matter who, like you bring, bring all your guys with you. Like, I was the emergency just that Oba Femi was here and he could do that. Right. Because that's not clear enough. But like, if you want to tell me it's like the potential. Because the guy, the guy, the guy has a like, obviously a photo on his phone. Like, this is bad. We got to get the done. If it's a photo of a black guy at your restaurant, how is that an emergency? I mean, it really shouldn't be, you know what I mean? Isn't that it's just that like, if it's, if it's a thing like, I will not leave until you bring Tony here. Yeah, you know what I mean? But like, why are you scaring all these people? Yeah, scaring all these people. What are they scared of? Anyway, that's the problem we have with this particular scene and why I want to see more of this because I know there's better stuff than this in the chamber between the two of them. And this one feels like it's one of those we're like, Oba does stuff to Tony that would put away other guys and it doesn't put away Tony. Yeah. And Tony throws his best shots at Oba and Oba. This, I don't want to see this particular thing because we just saw it last night. But this does feel like two guys beaten on each other and get double counted out and the match gets thrown out. We got to do this again under a different stipulation. You know what I mean? Because this feels like it could be that I don't want this to be a one off and we're done. No, there should be a proper feud. This should be a proper thing. Yeah. You know, well, speaking of stuff that we saw last night, how about something we just saw at SummerSlam? That's especially us for free. Me and her assistant meet Castle Fish Tockos. It's been a meaty couple of days now that's crank. Oba and Tony D was cinema. Can't wait for that meat slap. So good. There'll be much meat slap. There was also like how you said this should be an extended thing. I think with Santos, there were like four or five videos like that and they should be in that same vein. They should tell the story in the same framework that they did with that. Yeah. But tell a different story. Well, Chisholm says it's not fair that Oba is this good at wrestling and promos this early. He's only going to get better. It's so true. This guy, this guy is this is if this was the only success story of the NIL program in NXT, it is the it is reason enough to keep going. It's the right way. In case you find another one of these guys. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's how good he is. Joe Hendry and Trick Williams have a segment where Joe Hendry explicitly says, "Don't worry, Trick. When I beat Ethan Page, I guarantee you will have the first title shot." And Trick's like, "That's good. It's an interesting piece of information that will only become relevant later tonight." And then Ethan's like Ava says, "You know better than to put all your hands on our officials. Ethan Page, last week. And Ethan Page says, "You're right. You should suspend me, so I don't have to defend my title against Joe Hendry." And I'm like, "If you have an ego, wouldn't the ego mean that you think you're good enough to beat anybody as opposed to, you know, the Miz who runs from every challenge every time he's the champion of anything? Why have you turned Ethan Page into the Miz? And then we get HBK... Hubba-ka. Handy capping Joe Hendry. Everyone tells me Joe Hendry's better than this, and I have to believe them. Otherwise, everybody who told me he was good is crazy. Because this thing, this song was not. It was like, "Haha, this guy he has, he has wrestling, he collects wrestling toys." Like, none of you wrestling fans who, obviously, none of you collect wrestling toys either. Like, what are we making fun of this guy for? Like, he dresses up in funny things, or at least he used to, or he does so on his vlog because his out-of-character vlog is a thing that you're making fun of lazily in a badly written and poorly performed song. Great, Joe Hendry. Knock out job. Obviously, I think you can do better than this, and I think HBK is telling you you're not allowed to do better than this. But like, the poorly performed and badly written song is not nearly the worst part of this segment. It wasn't his best one. I didn't think it was that poorly performed. You're also just no fun, so you refuse to get on the train. You refuse to wave your hands side to side to side. I do, I will, and I shall forever. I believe in Joe Hendry. This wasn't the best one to end it gets cut off here. But to the second one. Cut off, he had him do the chorus eight times in a row. What was left of this song? In rough did. Okay, fine. But Ethan Page with Ava, was annoying as Ethan Page is very good at this. Yes. But it's not what he should be doing in my opinion. So I have trouble reconciling those because his timing is great. He has naturally a sense of humor. He understands the environment that he's playing to, even if that environment's a little bad shit. But him being like, "Oh great, I'm back at the principal's office." I liked that. Ava does well in this too. But the thing of him wanting to dodge matches, I'm like, "Then why did you come in an immediately challenge for a title if you don't want to defend it?" Winning it accidentally, this has all been so, it's so not the all-ego guy. Which maybe they don't want that. But I don't think when you're... It's a weird song to write for it. I mean, if you don't want him to be the all-ego guy. Like, his in-ring ceiling is so high that he doesn't need these cop-outs. It's my thing. But yeah, Joe Hendry gets interrupted. Not his best song, that nearly is bad as you're pretending. But it wasn't the best. Your sound check before this stream was probably better. But not on purpose. Because you sent a leafy guy from the B-52s by instrument. Ethan Page comes out, says, "We're not going to be doing this." And then the rest of the crowd decides to sing along the really dumb chorus of Ethan Page put on some clothes. He's wearing a suit right now. You can sing the chorus, but it has no effect. When you're telling a man to put on clothes, he's fully clothed. You know what? I hope the Piffleman Center does move to Vegas. So none of these rubes can attend a show again. I genuinely was waiting for you to say the word rubes. And then Ava comes out and says, "Hey, I just realized I got some dust on my fingers and then ripe to my forehead." And now my finger prints on your head. This is what happens, you're mean to me. I get you with the good segue. Yeah, it's honestly my fault. You're mean to Louis. My fault. All of this is my fault. This is karma. Karma. Karma. Or, as it is also known, no. Awesome Kong. Awesome Kong's a bitch, isn't it? Yep, there we go. Is she eating? No, no, no. Ava comes out and says, "Because you put your hands on our officials, obviously we need a different official. We need a special guest referee for your match this weekend. And it's Trick Williams. And Trick Williams will be fully impartial. Special guest referee, you know, what with him not liking Ethan Page and Joe Hendry explicitly telling him you will be the first title shot after I win. Which is, it's honestly very good, I suppose, that we have Pete Dunn, like, telling us ahead of time. I'm going to take, basically, you're not going to make it to next Tuesday because I'm going to travel to Denver, Colorado. And I'm going to, I'm going to take you out while your special guest refereeing this match. So I guess that's how Ethan Page retains, is that there's going to be a ref bump caused by Pete Dunn. So he and Trick Williams can have a match. Why would you tell us all of this ahead of time? It was, they love to make things for the kid and they need to be on the shelf. They really do. So yeah, we're, this is, honestly, the special guest referee is a dumb step, just kind of all over the place. I hate it uniformly. Yeah, like, yeah, yeah, I quit matches, won't project matches, special guest referees. But I will say, if in tribute, Trick Williams comes out wearing the Shawn Michael shorts, I will laugh very hard. A ref bump by Pete Dunn and Josh, Josh Alexander interfering are all on the table, right, Louise? All on table. They've basically been guaranteed. Yeah. So there we go. A bad apple jam tribute says, I know we already talk about it, but I just saw the Jada slap. It was like the Batman slapping Robin meme and therefore the best thing on NXT ever. It's a pretty great slap. It was excellent. Pretty great slap. Speaking of slaps, hangman versus ECE on dynamite tomorrow, that's going to slap. Also, Tim McFowl says, at least NXT was better than Raw, low bar to clear. Jada's a star, pretty sure Oba in a suit has elicited a drought. Cool finisher by Fallon and JC, but everything else was mid at best, but we get Fletch and Ricochet tomorrow. So how bad can it be? I mean, like, right, how bad could life be, I suppose? Bad apple jam tribute says, if anyone was to match Macho Man's intense promos, it was Sid. Sid was one of my favorite big men along with Vader. Yeah. He had that intensity before sure. All right. Let's get some fun. Do it now. Let's go quick. Before we do actually, since they brought up AEW Dynamite, I'll let you know that. I don't even know if you know this yet. September 4th and September 11th, me and Alex Cardoza and you are going to be on the main for AEW Dynamite. That's a three person one? The AKA trio, yeah. Wow. And I've been told we get the full cape land chat to go two hours. So, so there you go. Yeah. Alex found out in real time, I don't even want to join him anymore because he's been so mean to me on this episode. But thankfully, I'll have Cardoza as a buffer and also on Friday, I will blessedly be at Capital Collision because it's the most poor cape card in the whole wide world. Right. All of TMDK like, well, if I'm being and Mercedes and GIB and Gabe Kid and Leo Rush and Mustafa Ali, like here, Kate, here's a bunch of your faves. That's right. So what's going to be in that? So, Phil Lindsay's going to be in. Oh, okay. There's good. No, Ace, not tomorrow. The next two. The fourth and yeah. And then I don't know what you're doing the 25th because Sean's coming to Grand Slam and I'll be there too. I'll see. Friday Cardoza again. Probably. Or Joel Pearl just to doing stuff. Anyway, if you were nice, we would never stick over on you. I know, and I understand. Welcome to this production meeting SGS. Sorry, your father says in the immortal words of race al Ghul from Batman Begins, everything sucks. This does not apply to the SGS team KLEX or the mighty JW Pringle. Here we go. Puns from Vegas puns in honor of them not actually, not actually moving me at maybe never. We're not really sure the P the former center to Vegas. Bad apple jam tree beard says Vegas puns, CSI NXT. J.T. V. Pringle says one word, curse splash, which is the sound of throwing a barrel into Lake Mead, but then it comes up later. Mr. Showtime says, HHH, holy crap, three H's. That's a jackpot. Louisville says Bam Bam Bellagio. That's my leader in the clubhouse. Speaking of, so meet Norma says slot machine Brian Cage. Bam Bam see Bufalo. See food Bufalo. Bam Bam Bam Bufalo. Okay. Okay. Insert clever Tegan Knox puns says Tegan Hold 'em. Annie Brown says Ziegfried and Roy Mysterio. Mr. Showtime says Roll the Ziggy dice. Very nice. Tom LaValley says Sansa Blind Mini Sphere Kawa. Very nice. Mr. Showtime says jackpot team 2000. I'll take it. Not mad about it. Lieutenant Colonel Foto says one word or pun to sum up chase you. Crap. Meena. Sito Godo says Zack Sahara Jr. And House Blackjack. Very nice. Bad Apple Jam Treebeard says Cesaro's Palace and MCMG Grand. Very good. Mr. Showtime says Bad Bunny Ranch. Very nice. Ian R. says sports book Mike Bailey. I like that. That's really good. Speedball becomes sports book. Lieutenant Colonel Foto says Tour of the Treasure Island. Insert clever Tegan Knox puns says Tegan Slots. Tegan Slots is really good. Matthew Hook says Tony sleeping with the fish's D. Blackjack team 2000. Hikaru Yukusa Sita. And also thanks for always being amazing Alex Kate and the SGS save my life. Aw. Thank you folks. You're the best. Thank you. Lieutenant Colonel Foto says Rob Van Hoover Dam. That's good. Tom LaValley says in honor of Sid let's play softball and not wrestle. Lieutenant Colonel Foto says Dwayne the Red Rock Canyon Johnson. Mr. Showtime says Carrot off the top rope. Off the carrot top rope. I get it. Pieces says Big John five card stud. That's really good. Lieutenant Colonel Foto says Adam Cole Mandalay baby. Very good. Mr. Showtime says House of Always Bed on Black. Lieutenant Colonel Foto says The Little J White Wedding Chapel. Aw. Greg Cherry says Chip Stacks Lorenzo. NXT Parking Lottery. Free Bird Roulette. Cactus Jackpot. And the Faces of Sphere. Very good. Just Ricardo says Texas Hold 'em team 2000. Very nice. Tilitric Mayhem says Satnam Sing Freed and Son Roy Dutt. And also Lex Luxor. Nice. Bad Apple gem tree bird says Andge Andge Bigelow. Tilitric Mayhem says Chris Statt Angel more than a mind freak. Queen Trapanada. Mandatee Bay Mello. The Bellagio Mortos. G-Y-V grizzled young Venetians. And Brody King High. Very nice. And finally one last casino pond. Can Kate talk about the casino gauntlet again? So it's Wembley right? And there's 50,000 plus people there. And Nigel McGittis is on commentary but he excuses himself from commentary earlier in the night. And then Orange Cassidy starts it. He has this whole Mr. Bean entrance. And then Okada is there and Okada wasn't booked to anybody's knowledge that he's in the ring and there's all this cool stuff because the chaos action and whatnot. And then all of a sudden Oasis hits. And there's like the his Titan Tron goes up pop and everybody goes crazy. And then there's the he comes out pop. Everybody goes even crazier. And then she's walking like a rock star because she's the greatest wrestler ever. And he just looks so happy. He gets in the ring and it's like oh my god what is wrestling in 2024? Nigel McGittis is in the ring with Okada. And bam! Massline's theme for TMDK hits and Outcomes the X saber jr. He comes in and he's doing this ridiculous thing where he can clear the ring but he does it as a technical wrestler. So he's doing like all these holds and ah the standing twisting neckbreakers is a ring clearing spot which is just like the most unique thing technical wrestling could do. And then Nigel McGittis taps him on the shoulder. And then he turns around and there's like this technical wrestling half passing the baton in England half dream match thing that we never thought we would get and they exchange all these wrist locks and stuff and it's so beautiful and wrestling is the greatest thing. And then in all of this they're chasing Brian Danielson who they both have this issue with who they both been on commentary about and that has connections to everybody else in the match. Okada obviously Kyle O'Riley who we already faced. Orange Cassidy at Resurrection. It's beautiful. And then Jeff Jarrett came in and it was not great and then Christian won for some reason. But up until then anyway. Um that's good. I love wrestling so much. Um so Tom O'Malley has asked for George Segal he means Elliot Gould to to uh to to do um the speech where he's talking about the three most successful Las Vegas heists from Ocean 11. I looked for it to Luis looked for it. We cannot find this speech but I know what it is. I know what it is but we're both looking for it. We might have to skip this one and do it a different time. So everyone goes thank Mariah Maye's phenomenal chap by the way. Yes everyone goes thank him. So we're going to start with this. Mad Apple Jam Treebeard wants Braun to sing The Gambler by Kenny Rogers. And then he wants Tiffany to sing a different song called The Gambler. Here we go. On a warm summer's evening on a train bound for nowhere. I met up with a gambler. We were both too tired to sleep. So we took turns of staring out the window at the darkness till boredom overtook us. And he began to speak. He said son of me to life I had to read in people's faces. I know what their cards were by the way they held their eyes. So if you don't mind my saying I can see you're out of aces for a taste of your whiskey. I'll give you some advice. So I had him in my bottle and drank down my last swallow then he bumped a cigarette and asked me for a light. And the night got deathly quiet and his face lost all expression. He said if you're going to play the game boy you gotta learn to play it right. You gotta no when to hold him. No when to fold him. No when to walk away. No when to run. Never account your money. When you're sitting at the cable never time enough account when the deal ain't done. Get these hands of poker. Get pushed through a car. Yeah that bad apple jam tree beard wants tiffy to to saying gambler by Madonna. I'm a gambler and I will take you by surprise gambler I'll aim straight between your eyes gambler yeah I know all the words you say because I'm a gambler I only play the game to win. Don't want to say this but I think that I should I'm better off forgotten if you think that I'd be good. One day you see me the next day I'm gone don't fight me baby I don't want to hold on. I'm a gambler a gambler a gambler. Toodles. We're gonna we're gonna earn um oh my god he actually found it. Okay um hold on we're gonna do it now real quick. So here we go. It's oh it's never been tried knocking off a casino's never been tried. It's been tried a few guys even came close you know the three most successful robberies in the history of Vegas number three the bronze medal pencil neck grabs a lock box out at the horseshoe. He got two steps closer to the door than any living saw before him second most successful robbery the flamingo in 71 this guy actually tasted fresh oxygen before they grabbed him. Of course he was breathing out of a hose for the next three weeks god damn hippie and the closest any man has ever come to robbing a Las Vegas casino was outside of Caesar's in 87 he came he grabbed they conquered but what am I saying you guys are pros the best I'm sure you can make it out of the casino of course let this we forget once you're out the front door you're still in the middle of the fucking desert. There we go. That was so Linda. It was um two more puns just Ricardo says MXM grand and Alpha Bill says Nevada Kai not Dakota Kai. Very good. Okay no more requests we are out we're done I want to say here Bargov says just wanted to thank you for the SGS discord. I spend my time there during the afternoon pay-per-views since they run late evening for me. A great bunch of folks heart emoji enjoyed watching all in with them much love thank you Bargov. Thank you so much. We have our own SGS discord. Because all we could ever want is absolutely doing nearly enough to help us right now so he will go and find the link for the discord and put it in the chat right now so more people get off your ass. Get off your ass Louise. You're getting paid like triple overtime because we can't stop talking so the least you could do. It's so true. Is put the link to the discord in the chat. Thank you. Louise is the best we can't. All right hold on. Here we go. Here's the SGS discord at least was as of today and then you know they switch up the links all the time. Okay here we go. And we're gonna do this and we're gonna do this and then we're gonna do this and then we're gonna do this. Hello it's me. Hold on. This is a dusty road that the goats are dusty roads are gonna sing a song. Bad apple jam tribute says dusted roads to sing ghost chickens in the sky by Leroy Troy. Okay here we go. A chicken farmer took a walk out on his farm one day. He paused by the coop as it went along his way. Went all at once. A rotten egg hit him in the eye. It was a sight he'd read it. Ghost chickens in the sky. Ghost chickens in the sky. He been a chicken farmer since he was 24 with his how old you are if I'm not mistaken. Is this true? Oh working for the Colonel for 30 years or more killing all them chickens and sending them to fry. Now they want revenge. Ghost chickens in the sky. They're beaks for black and shiny. The eyes are blazing red. They didn't have no feathers. These chickens they were dead daddy. They picked that farmer up and he died by the claw. They cooked him extra crispy. A him with coleslaw. That's all time. I was gonna say that's the closest one that actually sounds like it could be a dusty promo or one of your promo. Excuse me. I don't know why I referred to you that way. That's all of me. That's all you. That's right. That's all it is for me. I'm gonna go back to the graveyard because I don't know if you've heard but Sid Vicious, which is one of my Sid, Psycho Sid. Psycho Sid Vicious has now decided to. It is his time and we have a lot. We have a lot to show him and he's a very intense individual so we need to make sure he understands that basically we're all very chill up here so we don't need to be all psycho. Sure. Yeah so you know that's basically. He can leave that behind. But he and Boozer Brody have a lot to talk about I'm sure because they're both very intense individuals. It's true. Anyways. I gotta go back. Nice to see you. All right. It's so much a lot and how he goes back to the graveyard. It's true. It's true. Sweet and sassy creations because can we get an Alex Singalong of Joe's song? Is this Joe Henry's song? Say his name and he appears. I believe a Joe Henry clap clap. I believe a Joe Henry clap clap from somewhere to somewhere to somewhere else and the somewhere and somewhere and another place. I believe in Joe Henry clap clap clap. I believe in Joe Henry clap clap. Is that good enough? Thank you. Wave your hands from side to side to side. I believe in Joe Henry. All right. Except he's gonna lose Sunday. All right. Here we go. Hello. Oh my gosh, Ricky. Yes, me. Who's Ricky Rainbow is here? Hello. Uh, Ricky Rainbow. Just Ricardo says Ricky does a good run of bad luck by Clint Black. Right. A high roller even when the chips sit down to win you over. I'd seen the tables to round. She's 10 the odd way. I could feel her in my bones. She'll be making my day not another night alone. Oh, Clint. Naughty, naughty. It's time for a win for and not a single minute too soon. I've been too long overdue. Now I'm on a shoot the moon. All bet it all on a good run of bad luck. I don't know this song. So I'm just trying to figure out what it might sound like if I was really singing it. It's great. All on a good run of bad luck. Seven come eleven and she could be mine. Luck be a lady and I'm gonna find love coming on the bottom line. Was that good? That's beautiful. Thank you. Gordon. Right. Now. Ian said touching tips. Oh, that's the that's the sweetest thing you can ever do. Wonderful. Do you touch them? Oh, with everyone. Literally everyone I come in contact with. Oh, done. Store tracks. Hey. We touch tips. We do. Bad Apple Jam 3B says Ricky Rainbow sing poker face by Lady Gaga. Do you know Lady Gaga? Have you met her? No, no. Yeah, she's, uh, she's nice. She's nice. She's nice. Yeah. I designed a meat suit. Remember when she wore a dress entirely made out of meat? I do. I designed that. You're very, um, daring in your designs. Off on to God Day. I want to hold them like they do in Texas, please. Hold them, let them hit me, raise it, baby. Stay with me. Love, game, intuition, play the cards with spaces to stop, or space to stop. After he's been hooked, I'll play the one that's on his heart. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I'll get him hot. Show him what I've got. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I'll get him hot. Show him what I've got. Can't read my, can't read my, no, he can't read a more poker face. She got me, she got no body. Can't read my, can't read my, no, he can't read a more poker face. He's your doctor, be on no body. Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, thank you. Very passionate performance. I loved it. Finally, before we leave, Kim Gray says, I missed Bo's first junior high football game because I teach. You couldn't console first class, but they won. I need to keep cheering up. Kate's choice. What should I sing? And also, should it be me? Please let it be me. Just sing this song. Oh, what should I sing? It can be you. How about, fucking in the bushes by Oasis? Oh, that's... Your fellow Brits. That's so naughty. It is. You can, you can censor it as it goes. No, you don't want me to do Wonderwall. No, no, no. This is for Nigel. All right. Okay, I'll do a mean champagne supernova. Don't look back in anger. No, just, okay, we're gonna fucking the bushes. Here we go. We put this festival on you bastards with Lord of Love. We work, we're on you for you pigs, and you wanna break our walls down, and you wanna destroy it. Well, you go to hell. Kids running around naked fucking in the bushes. Kids running around naked fucking in the bushes. Kids running around naked fucking in the bushes. Kids running around naked fucking in the bushes. I love it. Thank you. Thank you. Um, before we get out of here, and we do have to get out of here, but how do you feel about clams in general? Do you ever dig them? I'm, I'm, I'm pro-mollusk in all its forms. That's beautiful. I'm all, I'm all supposed to. Yeah, no, they, yeah, I wouldn't have, I would never dig them, except for like, I think they're, they're nice. Like dig them, yeah. I dig clams. Right. Right. All right. All right. Keep cool, Garbageoos. When you need meal time inspiration, it's worth shopping king supers for thousands of appetizing ingredients that inspire countless mouth-watering meals. And no matter what tasty choice you make, you'll enjoy our everyday low prices. Plus, extra ways to save, like digital coupons worth over $600 each week, and up to $1 off per gallon at the pump with points. So you can get big flavors and big savings. King supers, fresh for everyone, fuel restrictions apply. 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