[SOUND] How could a plane, even a plane, even a 767 or 747 or whatever it might have been? How could it possibly go through the steel? I happen to think that they had not only a plane, but they had bombs that exploded almost simultaneously. Cuz I just can't imagine anything being able to go through that war. [MUSIC] I love brake gun, I love brake gun, I love brake gun, I love brake gun, I love brake gun, I love brake gun, I love brake gun, I love brake gun, I love brake gun, I love brake gun, I love brake gun, I make them over so I can bust like a papa. Captain and long feets together make you know you will travel cuz they never put a jeep bag, bag, bag, to pump down G so it's- [MUSIC] Buddy, you're a boy, make a big knife. You know what's beautiful? [LAUGH] Fruit cake. [LAUGH] All of the different colored little fruits living together in one cake. [MUSIC] Ladies and gentlemen, this just in, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has abandoned his family legacy and turned to the dark side. That, and Kamala Harris is not doing interviews still and a bunch of other stuff, get that and so much more here on the system is down momentarily, but before we get to that, you gotta go tell your friends, your family members, your enemies, your Robert F. Kennedy, brother, bastard brothers, all about what's about to happen. Go, do so, and we're gonna start, here we go. All I ask is, if we have to give these bastards our lives, we give them hell before we go. [CHEERING] The tragedy of our day is the climate of fear between live. [MUSIC] One thing about these caliber brothers is building collapsing. [MUSIC] I don't know what I said, I do not have sexual relations with everyone. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] It's a big flow. You ain't in it. [MUSIC] Oh, right, where am I? There I am. Hello. Welcome back to the show. Welcome back to the system. It's down where we talk about the uncomfortable things like politics, conspiracies, religion, Dave's age, and other things that are taboo to bring up around the Thanksgiving dinner table. I am joined, as always, by the late great Dave Casey. Dave, how are you doing, sir? What's up, dude? I'm still in my age, but I'm still taking two steps at a time, bro. Some of these younger neckbeards, you know. They're taking one step at a time? No, two steps at a time, bro. I'm fucking jumping up those steps and telling you, middle age, but, you know. Right, but the neckbeards. As far as my peers are concerned, you guys better step it up. Sure. You got to catch up to Dave and his old age. Exactly. Dave, how's Delaware going over there? You know, leading the way, as far as crony corporate capitalism in America is concerned, the Cayman Islands of the Maine. The Maine Island, I guess, is Delaware. Yeah, we're doing great, dude. I don't know if this is Kamala Harris's headquarters or not. Maybe they're just rolling it over, or it could be a spirit Halloween at this point. I'm not certain. Yes. Well, I would like to start out by once again apologizing for the delay and for my disc orientedness of current because, you know, if the microphones work and the computers work and the cameras work and then why wouldn't the internet stop working right when you hit go? But now that I've restarted everything, it seems to be working and also all of my links are closed now. So I'm kind of reopening those as we go and we'll see where this goes. But we do have a lot to talk about and we're going to get into the RFK stuff and the Donald Trump stuff and the Tulsi Gabbard stuff and the Kamala Harris stuff and maybe even a little bit of chase and cop, everyone's favorite stuff. 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Support the show if you like it, uh, whether you want to hear more of it or not, support the show at patreon.com/thesystemisdown and I'm frozen cause, why wouldn't I be frozen? You look in shock, dear God, dear God, I'm frozen. Smiles in the headlights, it's my show. I'm the youngest person on the screen at the moment, that's great, I can appreciate that. Did you enjoy it while it lasted, Dave? That was not nearly as much as I needed. Yep. Well, uh, we got a lot to get into, Dave. Um, are you buckled up and ready for, for takeoff? I'm already having a great time. You're not going to stop me from, from enjoying myself. Good to go. Um, let's discuss before we get in too deeply into, uh, the politics of it all. This is probably my favorite clip from the week, one of, one of my favorite things that I've seen all week and this is a Stephen Colbert with, uh, Caitlyn Collins from CNN on his show. Here's what happened. He's kind of been thrown on his heels by this and he's not really sure how to go after Vice President Harris. He knew his attack lines on, on President Biden. He really has struggled with how to, how to go after someone who's 20 years younger than him, who is a different gender, a different race. It's kind of been this moment where he has not been able to coalesce around a single attack line. I know you guys are objective over there that you just report the news as it is. Oh, I know a CNN makes a, and I know that's supposed to be a lab life. I wasn't supposed to be, but, uh, I guess it is, um, yes, um, I'm not sure if Stephen Colbert was going for a joke or not, but either way, all it took for his audience to laugh is brainless, brain dead sheep of audiences. Um, you know, the, the jab, uh, Vax dance bullshit that he's been peddling, that type of thing, the top notch entertainment. Even those people know how much of a joke it is that CNN is completely unbiased and objective on, on their, their channel. Now the Caitlyn Collins here was taking it back, taking it back just shocked to know that it's laughable that CNN is, uh, is objective. Dave, do you think this was off color? Uh, I think, um, the, the corporate entertainment industrial complex has given permission for these guys, uh, to have fun with the Democrats at this point, which is one more reason why I just think it's an, you know, it's in the bag for Trump, uh, John Stewart was just doing the same thing. Like it was 2012. Again, he was just bagging on the democratic party. Got the real get to that's great. I mean, really, it's, it's, it's nice to see like regardless if this is part of the script or not, um, it's still, yes, CNN has always sucked before Donald Trump came out and said fake news. They were, they sucked. So it's great to see like two words of honesty. And why the fuck am I frozen again? Back to the day versus Goliath show. Son taken over one time. Um, yeah, don't worry about that, bro. We'll just take it from here. Um, so what were we talking about? CNN CNN. Yeah. Yeah. That brought I, that lady, I'm sure she thought she'd come out there and have a great time and, uh, get some softballs from, yeah, the vaccine pitch guy and instead gets a left at by the studio audience. Yeah. Once they're let, you let them know, hey, it's okay to laugh now. And then they will. Um, most of my friends are liberal. They're mostly cool people. They're not communists. Um, then if you tell them it's okay to laugh, they will. Right. They just need some permission. You tell them it's okay. If four out of five, you know, doctors recommend laughing, then they'll do it. Otherwise the corporate, uh, you know, the corporate script has changed over the last few weeks. And it's, it's confusing to watch because I'm not sure exactly what they're going for. I know that, uh, they're not in the bag for Trump, certainly, but they're at least being able to tell a, uh, ounce of truth for once. So, uh, when, when you tell, whether I trust you people or not, when you tell the truth, um, we're gonna, we're gonna give kudos where it's deserved, but, um, just wait till next week, we'll be back to something else. But, um, now, Donald Trump, we're going to talk about him a lot today. And before we get into too much, uh, what could be deemed support or praise for things that he's said or done? Let's start off with Donald Trump's shit take of the week. Um, right out the gate with, uh, here is what Donald Trump had to say about flag burning. And, uh, they were spraying the hell out of it. They were burning the American flag. I want to get a law pass. Everyone tells me, Oh, search very hard. You burn an American flag. You go to jail for one year. Got to do it. We got to do it. They say it's not constant, please. They say, sir, that's not constitution. We'll make it constitution. We're going to make it constitution. We're going to make it constitutional to send people to jail for burning a flag one year in jail because, uh, you dare to, uh, to mock or burn their golden calf. Um, something, something idle worship, something, something patriotism, you know, right? Uh, yeah. Dave, you got any thoughts on, on our boy here? It's funny man. I mean, I just, I hope that like, the America firsters, when it comes time, he'll push this and it will be popular. And the same people that were like, you know, oh, the first amendment is to protect vile speech, you know, dangerous speech, all that stuff will come back. Well, well, except when you're like desecrating the flat, of course, not, not that. That's not free speech. Um, it's a, it's in Donald Trump's constitution that he just made up. Yeah. So please let's try and avoid that. Um, you got to let people say stuff and burn stuff and it's, you know, that's what it's all about. I mean, in a day and age where, um, it's very popular to hate the country that you live in for all the reasons that you can possibly come up with. I do somewhat appreciate the, uh, the sentiment of, hey, we should respect the country a little bit. But at the same time, of course, I don't respect it a lot. And, uh, I definitely don't respect anybody who wants to put somebody in jail for burning any flag of any kind. Cause, well, he didn't even go, oh, it's going to be a thousand dollar fine and a night in jail. He straight up was like, I'm going to take one year of your life away. If you burn that flag, that's fucking insane. Yeah. That doesn't just count to all flags. If somebody, if like a kid accidentally lights one of the little American flags from the parade on fire, uh, does that kid go to jail for a year? Right. Accidental American flag burnings. Yeah. We have to take that into consideration. What if the, what if the life of the mother is a fake just recklessness, you know, somebody has to suffer when the flag suffers because as we all know, the flag is something. It means something to everyone. And it's very, very important. Um, now you mentioned, uh, John Stewart, because, um, John Stewart was in the news this week or making the viral rounds because he dared criticize or by criticize, I mean, he acknowledged some things that happened at the DNC. We talked about the DNC last week. We were, we were two days in at the time. We saw the, uh, the low tier opener, the president of the United States, um, on night one, and then, you know, others, the, the Obama's and such, the little Johns of the world, the, you know, all the celebrities, but, um, uh, yeah, some people weren't entirely enthused by what happened at the DNC. One of them being, uh, John Stewart, here is, is this what I wanted to start with? I guess it is. Let's do it. Here we go. Roo, the billionaires followed immediately by a very happy billionaire. And as we discussed last week, he's right. Like right after Bernie Sanders went up there and said, fuck the billionaires. J.D. Pritzker goes up and he's like, I'm a successful billionaire and everybody applauds. They're like, yay, billionaire, even though we just applauded Bernie a second ago for saying no billionaires. Like in a matter of a half hour, these two, these two completely polar views, um, yeah, get contradicted themselves. Shocking. Again, the audio listener, the sexual parameter on screen is Bill Clinton this time, which is, you know, props, props to John Stewart and Comedy Central and Viacom Inc. and CBS International for, you know, saying this. Thank you. Which, by the way, it's the same company that runs the Corbett show. Uh, so yeah, it's okay. Everybody's are allowed to, uh, kind of shit on these, shit on these guys again. Yep. But yeah, great. Is it just because it's like a throw away candidacy at this point where they're like, you can be a little bit honest. We need to regain some favor. Is this John Stewart trying to be more honest? Or is this like, are the court, we're gonna watch some more like CNN stuff where CNN's kind of calling out Kamala a little bit here and there too. They're just kind of dipping their toe in the water. Is it just because they know that it doesn't fucking matter and they're like, let's regain a little bit of our credibility because we're gonna need it for the next time we need to lie? Yes. I think, bro, that's the, that's the pendulum and that's the, that's the infinity war. So like as all the, you know, we can talk about Trump today and, you know, some of the pros that might come along with a Trump presidency over, you know, that of Biden or Kamala Harris, but that's how the energy shifts. So like the right as they work towards the 2030 agenda, the right will be placated with making America great and we won and politics has been solved, right? It'll be won the game. So, and then yes, the street cred of the left will begin to rebuild and John Stewart will be great again. At least for a little while. At least for a little while, as they need more politically expedient to lie, once that comes back around, we'll be right back at it. But yeah, sorry that clip apparently was super quiet. I did not turn it up. We're getting it together, y'all. We're here a day early and a dollar short, but we're gonna, we're gonna make it work. Now moving on to what's next. Let's see. Oh, more DNC stuff. We had Oprah on stage at the DNC. Everybody knows Oprah. She was up there complaining about oppression and income inequality and racism and sexism, all of which she has suffered in her life. Let's hear about that. Love those redwoods to the ghost of waters. I've seen racism and sexism and income inequality and division. I've not only seen it. At times, I've been on the receiving end of it from the red wood. So Oprah, billionaire Oprah, black woman that everybody knows because she is one of the most successful people in the entire world has seen. She has suffered from racism, sexism, and income inequality. Now, Dave, do you think that the income inequality she's referring to is her being a billionaire? Well, none of the rest of us are. Oh, man, I guess that card never runs out. Like if you, that's just incredible. And the irony wasn't lost on her. She went up there and she said that. Yeah, you're forever oppressed because you're a black lady, lesbian, most likely. Special friend Gail, hashtag Gail. Yeah, I don't know. That's crazy, man. She's got like property all over the world, probably like one of the richest people ever to live ever. And yeah, she's forever the victim, though. I don't think it's going to work, but I think that someday she'll run for president to avoid going to jail just like Joe Biden. Probably. They all do eventually when they run out of things to conquer. Once they've gotten over the hurdle of buying, selling, and consuming children, they're like, what do I have love to do about conquer the world? Let's do that. Now, also at the DNC, I don't know if you heard about this day, but there was a big rumor going around about some celebrities that were expected to appear. Did you hear any names floating around? Yeah, I heard big buzz from Queen B's buzz buzzing in the hive. Yeah, I heard Taylor Swift too, but Beyonce was the name that was going around. And sadly, that did not happen to be the case much to many people's chagrin. And we're going to explore that a little bit. Here is, here's a, wait, which one is this? Sorry. Oh, yeah, this is them explaining the, the lack of Beyonce. Here we go. And elsewhere that there may be a special guest, I am told by Democrats that Kamala Harris was their guest. They did not want a celebrity at the end of this convention to essentially compete with her. One senior advisor telling me this is a deadly serious election. And if you looked at the end of this program, having a Leon Panetta come on, the former defense secretary, really presenting vice president Harris as a plausible commander in chief, that is one of the reasons I'm told that there was not a celebrity performance. So it's a deadly serious election. They cannot make a mockery of it. They have to keep it very serious. That's why you remember that, that, that celebratory roll call that they did last week with little John representing Florida to turn down for what? Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, super serious, deadly serious, cannot be overshadowed by any celebrities, especially can't be, we cannot run the risk of overshadowing Kamala Harris and the importance of Kamala Harris by any celebrity that's definitely not going to show up. We can't do that. That's incredible, dude. I mean, just, I think they're, yeah, this is just, they know, I don't people think that Kamala Harris is going to, I'll put win in quotes, but no, that's not the, that's not the preferred candidate of anybody that the establishment doesn't want her and the people don't want her. So again, she's just like a good way for these guys to raise some money off some really, you know, really special people out there that just, I don't know, are moved by that lady for some reason or no, you got to be, like I said, special. But for everybody else, man, yeah, I think that this is going to be, I think Trump wants to have the greatest, biggest, greatest landslide ever, the history of electoral politics. I think he's going to get it. And they won't be able to like, you know, fudge the numbers, especially now that the homey RFK dipped out. But yeah, crazy. No, I just think that this is all them going. Oh, no, no, seriously, we could have had Beyonce because Beyonce is down with the thing we're doing. It's just that, you know, we didn't want to like, clatter it up with like, you know, it's just like, okay, I think happened. I think they, they intentionally leaked out there or seated out there. This rumor of Beyonce is gonna, she's gonna be there. And then they packed the house with a free Beyonce concert potential. And then they strung people along the entire time. And then at the end, they're like, just kidding. Thank you all for coming to Kamala's rally. Thank you for watching her 20 minute long speech that it contained absolutely nothing of substance. You got to hear about Kamala's upbringing for some reason and a lot to do with her local community. Zero policy, zero substance, and you all have it. Have a good day. Thanks. And yeah, like it just feels like the DNC was like, or people were like, we wanted BNC. We wanted Beyonce. Fuck. We wanted BNC at the Beyonce. We wanted Beyonce at the DNC. And the DNC was like, honey, we've got Beyonce at home. And then Beyonce at home is Kamala Harris just cackling and doing absolutely nothing. It feels like a trap. And a lot of people have said, where did this rumor possibly come from? Why are people saying this? It was just some rumor started by, I don't know, Republicans or something to make people to get people all hyped up and then disappointed by the letdown. Perhaps that's the case, or maybe it might have, might have been this special friend Gail. That Beyonce might make an appearance. I personally think that that's true, but we shall see. There are. Oh, we're going to say this now. Can I say this? Well, let's let's couch it in rumors and rumbling. Okay, let's just say. So, I mean, that's out there. The Beyonce talk. You have to stay tuned, but I have it on really good word. The behind is buzzing right now because the preparation for the behind it has to start early sources come from backstage. That's all I'll tell you. TMZ and the Hill reporting that she will indeed be making a surprise performance on stage here. Congressman was just dancing along and he's excited that he's hearing rumors, which a donor confirmed to me that she's also hearing that Beyonce is in real president of all things music and fashion and style, i.e. Beyonce is going to show up. Queen day. Rise guest tonight. Beyonce and oh Beyonce's got to be in town, right? My gosh, is that what we're in for with Beyonce show tonight? There are rumors that Beyonce may be there this evening. We may see Beyonce. Is the United Center going to be turning into the beehive tonight? Earlier today, we spoke with Christie George, the executive director of the DNC host committee. I'll not hope for Beyonce. Is that going to happen? I don't know, but that's what I think about it around here. I know. I thought you would have the insider tip on that. I'm hoping fingers crossed fingers crossed. They're keeping it very close to the bus. It's like everyone else. We were hoping that Beyonce makes an appearance. There could be a surprise performance from. So you get the point and there's still like having it left that. This is great. This is so great. Who's to say where these rumors came from or how they started? Where do words even come from? You know, it's tough. Dude, that's the number one musical guest performer that you could bring out, possibly influencer, if you're Kamala Harris. Who would be the equivalent for Donald Trump? Who would be the number? He's got Kid Rock, but that's like Taylor Swift is coming. She's coming down the bike. She's going to be a Trump supporter by the end of this. Yeah, Swifties for Trump. All right. That's a good battle, Swiftie. I did see a rumor from somebody zero credibility who said that. Apparently some sort of phone call leaked where Taylor Swift told her booking agent to go fuck himself or something that effect and said that she's going to vote for Donald Trump. I don't know that I believe that in any way, shape or form, but it would be quite fascinating. See, I also would not have expected, you know, if you went back a couple of years, certainly wouldn't have expected the, you know, endorsements that we've gotten in this past week from Robert F Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard for Donald Trump, but we'll see where things go. Now, there is another John Stewart clip that I want to share where he wrapped up the end of the DNC and had some similar, some similar takes. Let's see what we've got. This fucking screen will work. All right, here we go. And not just for Kamala Harris. Speculation was running wild today. That there would be a surprise guest. Boy, did they do it. Please welcome Michigan representative Oh, let's just lock in. Oh, yeah, freedom freedom. I am in the spot. He's getting it now. This clip goes on for a while and he points out like the lack of Beyonce and more of the hypocrisy and stuff like that. And at the end, he also said he makes some sort of wink and nod at, well, the Republicans think that she is a communist and he makes some jokes about how she's clearly not a communist or whatever. So he is still a little bit back and forth. But again, when you write, you're right. And that's a pretty funny way to wrap up the DNC with somebody. Just can you imagine being that somebody, whoever that somebody is, who has to go out there and tell everybody, I'm this is it. This is me at the end. And Beyonce is she's fallen ill. She's in her trailer right now saying you should definitely vote for Kamala Harris. Just trust me. She's she's here, but I am filling in for her and I will be doing my best karaoke. Beyonce impression, impression that I can. My body to booty lishes for your slut Nick. What's her name? Slot something. Slot Nick, get over here. Yo, it's very reminiscent of John Podesta coming out at midnight in 2016, telling everybody to go home. Hillary Clinton's not coming out. Very much like that. You get me and I am very disappointed that cut that I have to do this right now. Yeah. Now, speaking of Beyonce, or I mean, wish.com Beyonce Kamala Harris, she is still. She's been, you know, the presidential candidate for the DNC for a bit. Few weeks, almost a month. I'd say we're getting close to now. And have you heard any interviews, Dave? Bro, not a one unless I think I might have seen one from the the view unless it was old. It might have been an old club. I think it's probably old because I don't think she's done any and other people are starting to notice as well. While we have like Donald Trump going on Theo Vong's show and talking about crack, we've got Kamala Harris avoiding any sort of non-scripted interactions with the people. And here's here's CNN actually taking taking note. What's on the vice president schedule today? While she's traveling and talking to voters and getting her message out there to the American people, something that she's been doing from the very start of this campaign is something that she certainly did when she was president Biden's running made as vice president. But look, you just mentioned the space she's going to be giving and I was asking about today. And I don't think she's got any campaign events on the schedule today, does she? Well, she and Governor Wals have been traveling across the country. They hit nearly every battleground state last week. On the campaign trail, they raised 36 million dollars within the first 24 hours of Governor Wals joining the ticket. And what she's going to be doing Friday is taking her economic message directly to the voters in North Carolina. I certainly don't want to get in front of exactly what she's going to say. But she's going to talk a little bit about how she's going to make sure that she's putting consumers first as part of her economic plan. Oh, she didn't want to spoil that. I don't want to get into exactly what she's going to say. But she's going to be talking some vague shit. Trust us. It's going to be the same stuff you've been hearing. Real vague economy bad and money good. And we're good to middle class. 9/11, expect more of that. That's right. Take on corporate price gougers. She's going to take on junk fees. And that's something that, you know, John, she did when she was attorney general of California, something she continued to do as the United States Center of California. So she's going to be taking that message out to voters. And I look forward to seeing what she more of what she's going to say on Friday. I think we all do. And I'll ask you more about that in just a second. The reason I was asking about today is because it seems like she has time if she wanted to do an interview with a member of the media or do a news conference, correct? There does appear to be that time if she wanted. Well, look, she has said on the campaign trail that she would be doing an interview at some point. She said that I think last week during a rope line or when she was talking to reporters. But look, what is important here, John, is that she is taking her message directly to the American. Directly to the American people by going and standing on stage, giving them a lecture that is pre-written by somebody else and going home. She's taking her message directly to the American people. But in the most, you know, sterilized way you possibly can. She's being used still. Don't you worry. She's being used, John. But she's just not going to answer a goddamn question. Even if it is to, you know, save her entire election. But yeah. People, she had a number of battleground states. I think we had 15,000 people in Detroit last week, 12 to 13,000 in Nevada. She's been taking her message to the voters and drawing large crowds. So she's actually having those direct conversations. But not today. Not today. She can do an interview today, I would think, you know, because she's not out there today. Well, look, she's taking her message directly to voters and just because. Oh, dude, trust us. It's happening to me. Listen, she can't do it today because she's taking her message directly to voters. But she's not doing that today. Not today, though. And also she's got nothing going on. But you know, she's she's real busy doing next week doing the the directly did. Did I say directly to voters? Did I say that part? All right. How are you not getting this? Yeah. Good on. What's this dude's name? This said puppy dog looking fellow here. John something. Do you know? Right. The guy who's been historically awful on this channel, but has recently been given permission to be funny and, you know, go after these just woke up one morning. He was like, I think I'll tell the truth today. Like, sure, sure, sure, sure. But wherever he is, part of it, have you seen it started with the debate with Biden and Trump came out of it and he was like, you know, Jake Tapper, I used to call him fake Tapper, but he's been very fair. He's going to do he's going to do the switch to he's he's going to he's going to reestablish faith in in our institutions. Yep. So watch, perhaps, this is just a hunch based off of nothing, obviously. But perhaps the reason why they're keeping Kamala Harris from doing interviews is because when she says anything, it kind of sounds like this. This week reported that President Trump, if he gets a second term, will sort of dial back for lack of better term DI programs that the Biden administration has put in fourth. Obviously, no, you disagree with that. I obviously believe that you don't want him to get a second term that said if that does happen, you think that would do you think that Kamala Harris doesn't want the person she's running against to get a second term? Really? Brilliant. Well, let me say we're going to win. So it's not going to happen. But I think that listen, we today is actually, I believe in anniversary in terms of Dr. King, right? And and we I was just in Selma and we celebrated well, acknowledge the 59th anniversary of Bloody Sunday. I think it's really important that we as Americans always embrace our history, the parts that we're proud of and the parts that we're not that deer in a headlight looks and we should all agree that we should teach history. We should learn history if we're to ever have an accurate idea of where we want to go and where we don't want to go in the future. And that means also acknowledging the importance of diversity. It means acknowledging the importance of of the fact that everyone should have equal opportunity to compete and equity. And then of course, that too. Don't forget about that. Hey, like everything that she says feels like a filibuster. Everything she says is just to run out the clock. Like she opens her mouth, doesn't know where it's going. And then just jumps like like meanders through like, well, racism is bad and diversity is good. And as Juki Crane is a little country in Russia is a big country. Like it sounds like she was asked a question by a five year old and she knows she can get away with it. So she's like, let me dumb this down to the the dumbest possible level and hope that you don't realize that I'm not saying anything. I have nothing to say. There is nothing in here. That's it. It's crazy that she can get away with that. I wonder, yeah, I mean, I feel like you should be smart enough to know that the guy you're staring at doesn't believe your bullshit. And this is going to go out and millions of people are going to see this. But for whatever reason, yeah, like I guess just if the corporate press runs defense for you, if they choose to, like they did for Biden while he was completely incapable of, you know, independent thought, then yeah, sure, they could do it for her. I just, it's, yeah, it's crazy to watch, man. The gas lighting continues. Yeah, fix your chat from DC. He says, fix your chat, how should we deal with the provocateurs like Jonathan Todd Casey and others who continue to read about bullshit, you should ignore them or make fun of them on your podcast. These are the options that we've been given. Do what you want, but probably best to ignore them because their opinions don't have any bearing in reality generally. From what I've seen, you know, we keep bringing up the Joshua Reed equals of the world. The guy who is as a liberal, an angry libertarian who's angry at the Mises caucus for only endorsing for supposedly endorsing like secretly shadow endorsing Donald Trump somehow. But he is openly endorsing Kamala Harris, who is pushing as we'll get to in a few moments is pushing for all the neo-con bullshit. But yeah, how do you think we should deal with the provocateurs, Dave? Actually, dude, I think that that was pretty solid advice. And as somebody who spent a good time, you know, triggered by like, you know, the Sarwarks and those dudes, no, I think that's really good advice. We're watching, we get to watch the clown show is they get to own that, like chase and cop is, that's their guy. That's what they wanted. So like, if you guys are into libertarian party electoral politics, and you want to go at the next round of this, you will have a great story to tell about how those guys fucked everything up. Sorry. Boom. It's yours. If you want it. But yeah, I wouldn't give those guys too much of your energy. Yeah. Agreed. Speaking of people who are giving a lot of energy, this clip just baffled me to no end. Did you see any of the Quentin Tarantino on Bill Marshall, or Bill Marshall podcast? A clip. Yeah. Yep. That's the clip. That's the clip we're doing it. Here we go. Bigger issue is the left and their ability or their desire to engage with anyone who's not already in the bubble. And they get a big fat D minus on that. I can agree more. Right. I mean, you see Kamala, I mean, I'm glad she's doing well. I'm glad we have a real fight now for president. But doesn't talk to the press, you know, never would never go near me. And I'm, you know, when you won't go near the people who are going to vote for you, I'm going to vote for you. Do I have to love everything? No, I don't. It just shows their refer. And you're right. I see it so more much like just starting out that premise, like, you know, that your person, your guy slash gal would have nothing to do with you because she's scared of you. A guy who would who is openly saying, I'm going to vote for you no matter what. And you're scared to talk to me. So why are you voting for her? Like, why do you think that that's a good option if she's scared of her own voters? It's amazing. Yeah. The very dangerous Bill Maher. She's too scared to come on my show. It's very risky because I challenge the establishment and every turn. Six months later, I catch up to the news and say, remember when that happened? That was bad. Well, I don't. Okay, you know what? I don't see her. Well, there's no reason for her to go on your show before the election. But I can actually see her. Yes, there is. Because I speak to the exact voters she needs. Why would there be no reason for her to go on Bill Maher's show before the election? Like, there's nothing that can can help Kamala at this point. She's just on an upward swing. She's doing great. The person who is in the middle, the person who is not ideologically captured by either side. Now, there are some who watch who are that and everyone is welcome. This is ridiculous. He's not Bill Maher like to paint himself is just on the rational middle. It's like, dude, you are the the you just said you would vote for her without like no matter what, even though she's scared of you, you would vote for her. Trump sued him. And I think he won. So like, yeah, Trump another. Yeah, Bill Maher said that he his mom fucked in a rangutan. And that's what made like that was that was the joke. I think Trump was like that didn't too far. That's not true. You're right. Fake news. He sued him. And he he fucking wanted it. So yeah, there's more is that free speech Trump again. Exactly. Right. So Bill Maher, I mean, I'm just saying like, you know, as if he's just the guy who's I represent the average voter who can be swayed either way. I'm not like a hard partisan, you know. Yeah. And I mean, if you're going to sue somebody over a joke, at least sue sue him over a decent joke. That's just lazy. Like an orangutan too far. People have been saying mean things to me. But when when that when that Jewish man told me that my mother fucked in a rangutan, that was too far. Yeah, that's it. That's the line right there. Gritty that way. But basically, that's exactly the audience she needs. The MSNBC crowd is already voting for her. People who watch me who will decide this election will probably be in like four states. What's that? That's him. You are, bro, you are the MSNBC crowd. Right. You're the hard left. Yeah, that's what you are. Yeah, it gets better to prove your points by something like 80,000 votes in each. That's how these elections, how close they are these days. And that's where we're back to where at least back to normal, which sucked, but it is normal that it's 50 50 going into the election with Biden, it wouldn't have been. Let me ask you about this though. Okay, look, look, there's nothing you said that isn't right. Finally, finally, we're back to normalcy. It's been so long. But thank God, we are back to having two very qualified candidates going neck and neck with each other. You know, one of those candidates being the guy that I called like a rapist and probably a murderer to some degree. And you know, the other person is scared of me, her voting base. I'm glad we're back to normalcy. All right. And there's definitely enough thing you said that isn't right in a normal election cycle. I mean, it's irrefutably right in a normal election cycle where you have a year to set your case. I think there's just all about winning the fucking election. All right. And then the easiest path to winning the election. Look, you can talk about maybe she should have had more guts about this or that and the other. But we're the fucking president. Right. And Trump's not the president. And we're the fucking president. And now it you hear the way he talks about this, like such team sports, like we won at the at the Super Bowl. We won. We did it. Good job. Yeah. I sat on my couch and did fucking dick shit. And he's talking about the president as though or not even the president. He's talking about the vice president as though it's him as though he did something. What are you going to say? He's on he's on some Saul Alinsky shit, though. This is rules for radicals. Like he is he's telling the truth. He doesn't give a fuck about TV appearances. I think he's politely trying to say that if she went on your show, you know, you might be able to like it would only make it would only have the chance to make her look worse. What she's got to do is write out these two months, not talk to anybody, keep your fucking head down. Raise a bunch of money and, you know, gain political power. It's going to be about this. But this is about fucking winning. What most people don't give the Democrats enough credit for. All right. But we give the Republicans credit for it's like, no, sometimes it's just about fucking winning. And it doesn't matter how we look at this moment. It's about fucking winning. Right. This is about fucking winning. Yep. No, it is. That's it. That is all that matters. Mad fucking dash. And she is running and she's not stopping to stumble. And you know what? And there's nothing wrong with stopping this. I'm going to vote for her fucking anyway, no matter what she says in a stupid fucking interview. Exactly. So don't fuck shut up. God. Oh, he's a rational person. Wow. These people expose themselves. It doesn't matter what you do. It doesn't matter what you say. It doesn't matter. Nothing matters. Except winning except for my team winning. So please don't fuck it up for us. But why? What good is it for her to win? If she's if she's afraid of her voters, if she has no policies, if you're afraid of her doing interviews, if you know that when she opens her mouth, she's an idiot. What value do you gain from her becoming the president? What it's just about winning? But why? Just because that's it. That's all we've got here. Like it's team sports only. It nothing matters except for winning. But he knows he know, you know, we'll go back to the time magazine article that they wrote right after the 2020 victory. You know, he knows that it doesn't matter. It's blue no matter who because the the machinery is in place. Like that's what they know what that policy is. They know what the long term transformational progressive era policy machine moves towards. Right. So it doesn't it doesn't really need explaining. They know what that means and where the end result is, you know, they'll take some corporate socialism right now with a, you know, long term, hundred year communist plan. Yeah, patient, girl. So, yeah, wow, wow. Yeah, it's it's impressively bad. But I don't know, I it's like the quiet part screamed out loud as loudly as you can from a celebrity in Hollywood of it does not matter. Nothing matters except for our team getting it probably so that that list never gets leaked. You know the one we just really need this to happen. And I don't know. It's it's amazing. But I had another link here that I have lost in the shuffle of restarting everything. But have you seen this Kamala Harris camel hat, which is appears to be their their reach they're all of branch to middle class America, Dave. I'm not it's a it's a hat, a camel hat that says Harris walls. And why does this matter? Well, the media is writing articles about this hat being that some brilliant new strategy to win over the right wingers and bragging and raving about how many they've sold. They sold out of these hats so fast. It's amazing. Kamala Harris is definitely not trans stepdaughter was wearing the camel hat and it was just popping off the shelves. Now, I don't know who's buying the Kamala Harris hat, but it's I don't know a little bit insulting that the party of like the flyover states and the deplore the basket of deplorables and the elitist bullshit. The yeah, although the anti middle class rhetoric that they actually do, especially people of the past, but their their new strategy that is so clearly being propagandized because nobody would be raving about this if it wasn't propaganda. But all they've got is what if we took something that you like and put our name on it? You like camo? That's what you hillbillies like. See, we're one of you. We're just like the common folk in our camo shooting deer and hunting and and you know, man stuff. Um, Dave, do you believe that the the camel Kamala Harris hat is is popping off the shelves? Also, I believe there's a quote out there from Kamala Harris saying it is the most iconic political hat of all time, which is hilarious when you're running against Donald Trump, the only person who's ever had an iconic political hat that certainly trumps camo with your name on it. That's Dave. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's just a pathetic attempt. But I'm not I'm not shocked because walls is like, you know, they like to portray him as like an outdoorsman. He owns a shot. He's never been to Yale. He's just a normal guy. Yale people are stupid. Right. Um, so that's funny. And it just I mean, I do that is one of the worst things that they do is just pander and like pretend to care about the heartland, middle America, the Bible Belt, you know, conservative culture in general, because that is I mean, you literally you need that if you're going to win elections, at least some of it, right? They came over for Barack Obama. But I don't think they're going to come out for her because she's just so blatantly awful. But yeah, it's just it's one of the worst things that they do is just pretend for a couple months out of the year or maybe a year top. No, it's not even a year. It's like a real just little bit where they like, you know, the Iowa Fair, that's a good one where they just pretend to be regular people. Right. I feel like stuff like that's on its way out, but because they can't fake it anymore, not for chasing cop. They're still going to the Iowa fair. They're still doing it. But like, look, this is one of the things this is one of the things that Trump, whether or not he cares about these people, he can definitely make people think that he cares about these people. He's he's he's done that. But he was just that, you know, I think like Arlington National Cemetery, like doing some serious shit with some vets and no sign of Joe Biden, no sign of Kamal Harris. So you can pick. Yeah, I saw some I saw some people calling out Donald Trump for attending this memorial or whatever for the the withdrawal of from from Afghanistan. And yeah, I saw somebody calling out Donald Trump saying, but the 13 people that died died because of you. It's like, how? Yeah, that's that one. But like, look, Donald Trump could be using that for just, you know, his own PR. That's very possible. He would do that. I think he gave like the thumbs up in one of the pictures with like the widows and stuff, like that's kind of weird. But still, some of those people really appreciate him. They appreciate him. They want him there. That's the difference. Yeah. Now we've got one more bit on Kamal Harris that I want to touch on before we get into some RFK stuff. But this is this is from at Greg Price 11 on Twitter. I don't know who that is. You go look him up if you want to. But he compiled these four clips of Kamal Harris that I think are just it's just beautiful to to have this all in one speech from the current sitting vice president of the United States. Our country has come a long way since President Biden and I took office. Our country has come a long way since President Biden and I took office. A loaf of bread cost 50% more today than it did before the pandemic. Ground beef is up almost 50%. Many of the. So our country has come a long way since Biden and Harris took office and also prices are expensive next up housing market. And I know what home ownership means. It's more than a financial transaction. It's so much more than that. It's more than a house. Home ownership and what that means. It's a symbol of the pride that comes with hard work. Yes. Financial security. It represents what you will be able to do for your children. It's sadly right now it is out of reach. So everything's we've come a long way since I took office. Prices are more expensive and nobody can afford housing. Now what's the solution? So now now now is the time to chart a new way forward. Now is the time to chart a new way forward. Yes now now is the time not three months from now when you're president maybe now while you're the vice president let's chart a new way forward. That's the beautiful thing about Kamala Harris's race is that she's running against herself more than anything. She is running on a platform of doesn't everything suck even though it's under me even though it's my choice right now to make it all suck doesn't it suck but it's not gonna suck because once I'm president on day one things will not suck I could make them not suck right now but I don't feel like it I'm a little tired and don't have a lot going on but I will make things not suck and you can trust that you can take that to the bank and smoke it or whatever and yeah once I am in the White House as I am things will no longer suck like they do now while I'm in the White House it's great she's got like the problem reaction solution propaganda shit down but the problem with that is that the problem and the solution that she's proposing are both the same thing she's saying things suck don't they suck don't you feel bad I did that now elect me and I'll stop doing it it's great thoughts Dave I've heard some people say that like uh they're playing the trump campaign like a fiddle because uh like trumps out there doing all these interviews he's you know kind of defending his record and making himself very um available and she is doing anything but not putting out her own message or being interviewed she also wasn't the president so she hasn't done like lots of like public stuff yeah so in a way like it just in the in the minds of the public like it almost appears that Donald Trump is the incumbent and she is the challenger yeah right because like she hasn't she's still a new face kind of to a lot of people um the same kind of voters that would just vote for a woman president or just vote for a black woman president because because of diversity equity and inclusion and how important that you know what i mean it's yeah no issues are important so it really doesn't matter dude like so whether you're just like a uh power hungry you know like mover like uh quinton tarantino or you know like a dumb impressionable college communist like you're you're aligned on that being a black woman is enough it doesn't matter what your personal policies are what you say or um yeah that's that's the appeal dude to Kamala Harris well it's risky let's see if it pays off on all that matters is that we win now i forgot to play the the intro for Kamala so we have to play it now the the outro because this has been hail kamala praise me everybody raise your fists and uh god bless our leader have you or loved one been injured by some fuck nuggets reckless driving a tumble at your shitty job or some other form of dumb shit outside of your control well if you're not because today's episode is sponsored by a lawyer lone star injury attorneys is an award-winning personal injury law firm that achieves maximum results for its injured clients max the axe is not just a lawyer but a hardcore misex caucus libertarian and also a big supporter of this show in all of our bullshit max is the best personal injury lawyer in texas but don't judge him by his occupation or location max is an avid defender 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what fuck it shit's bad enough i gotta i gotta go i gotta go over here got to do this thing whether you agree with him or not whether you think that coalition building on you know things that you agree on is a terrible idea um as a libertarian seem to uh that's that's up to you but we're gonna watch some clips and watch rfk jr destroy the democratic uh party right now here is let me pull up my notes so i know what i'm doing here but uh here here's the first one the dnc wage continual legal warfare against both president trump and myself each time that our volunteers turned in those towering boxes of signatures needed to get on the ballot the dnc dragness into court state after state attempting to erase their work and to subvert the will of the voters who would sign those petitions it deployed dnc aligned judges to throw me and other candidates off the ballot and to throw president trump in jail it ran a sham primary that was rigged to prevent any serious challenge to president biden then when a predictably bungled debate performance precipitated the palace coup against president biden the same shadowy dnc operatives appointed his successor also without an election they installed a candidate who was so unpopular with voters that she dropped out in 2020 without winning a single delegate oh fuck you shut up all right so yeah uh rfk just calling it like it is no lies detected thus far and um yeah Kamala Harris did receive zero delegates when she was running for president initially and was the everybody's basically last pick like their joe jorgensen that's what Kamala Harris was to everybody and then at the end much like joe jorgensen she just got it but you know it didn't take eight rounds 12 rounds of voting together there they just said we're going to do it and we're going to hold this sham dnc uh convention for no reason just just just to hype people up and watch a Beyonce concert oh why are you blish debate they prided themselves on their compact father both relish debate they prided themselves on their capacity to go toe to toe with any opponent and the battle over ideas they would be astonished to learn of a democratic party presidential nominee who like vice president harris has not appeared in a single interview or an unscripted encounter with voters for 35 days this is profoundly undemocratic how are people to choose and they don't know they are choosing well said well said and um yes it's amazing amazing to watch rfk not only leave the party of his uncle and his father to leave them and and have a a statement of fuck you uh i'm going independent and then to be like no you guys are not only bad enough for me to leave your party you're bad enough i'm gonna support the fuck another guy because it's really bad and um yeah trust rfk or don't but you got to respect the guy for just just doing the thing that is well he talks a lot and did you watch either of these speeches dave no kind of just a little bit but no sure um yeah he gave his full speech um before the donald trump before donald trump brought him on he gave this uh 45 minute speech on his own at some press conference or something and i i really respect that because at the donald trump thing you only had like 15 minutes to say a little something something here he's like no i'm gonna put this out first this is going to be my first announcement i saw that yeah i did see that where he conceded and you know endorsed trump yeah for for him to i don't know i just respect that he's like no i'm get i've got a lot to say and it's not just gonna be fit into a 15 second sound bite like the Tulsi gabards of the world who who just go out and do what trump tells her to um what i another thing that i love about this is like i've had certainly my criticisms on the show of bobcatenady but um as i'm watching this and we'll get into some of it um some of these things but i believe him i believe him this time i believe him right now i believe that this is reluctantly succumbing to the inevitable and saying this has to be stopped the democratic party right now what they're doing has to be stopped and he seems genuinely upset that he has to do it but he knows that he has to do it he tears up at a few points and i know he's a he's a hollywood actor just as much as the rest of them but it's not like he's he's not putting on the water works he's choking him back and he's trying to not tear up and he's trying to not like you can see like corners of his mouth tip down like he's choking it back for the first half hour um this is a big fucking deal to him and he knows that he's not making this decision at all lightly and uh yeah whether or not what he's saying is fully honest or just politically expedient he is definitely upset that he has to end this campaign and um yeah him like we said last week Nicole Shanahan put this out where it was like we're not going to be the spoilers we never signed up to be the spoiler we didn't pay millions of dollars in this race to be spoilers we are here to win something to win in one form or fashion and this is what we can do right now um you got any thoughts so far Dave oh what a time man yeah what a time um i noticed and i think i retweeted it Nicole Shanahan's like pin tweet right now it's just like look then this is from four days ago something to the effect of like look we went around the whole country and we just talked to the people and like what was bothering them here's here's like our here's our main issues here's what we're concerned about and here's what we were looking to coalition on and it was like very reasonable shit you know and and some lots of stuff that we could really care about um they're obviously big on not just the medical freedom but like the health crisis in this country which dude we libertarians rarely talk about that shit but that's big on their agenda and so is you know free speech and um some other some other good things man i mean it does raise some questions for the libertarians too like is it wrong for the government to say that you can't put poison in food is that wrong Dave listen listen dude i don't know if you saw this today but some large account tweeted a video of some disgusting chemtrails yeah and Bobby Kennedy chined in was like oh we're gonna stop these crimes like bro that's fucking we you got it you got a guy you got a friend in me you know what i mean uh because that to me that's a nap violation along with the fluoridation of the water and the poisoning of the food and the consolidation of the GMO crops and all this bullshit um you know people are removed enough to like not face any liability and stuff but this is like it's not good for America i like i like the make America healthy again uh campaign if you're gonna have an FDA like i'm not saying we should have one or it should get taxpayer dollars but if it's going to then you make it you not right um and you don't need to go you know the tyrannical route to like make this stuff happen just like allow people to have options don't go after like farms don't go after organic farms don't go after the Amish people let people have raw milk let people grow their own food trade their own food um if you just do that let people feed people on the street you without you know attacking them throwing them in jail uh you'd be way better off so um yeah i'm proud the make America healthy again healthy again movement i agree and i think what's beautiful about this like not only does he bring up these points that you don't really hear the republicans or the democrats say all that much about uh what he's talking about with the the food industry that's kind of just on the back burner um and never even really address so it's interesting that he's bringing that kind of to the forefront the main two things that he talks about here is like children's health and um i guess like uh the pharmaceuticals kind of is lumped in there too but that and as we'll see uh anti neocon bullshit so it's great that he's like i don't trust rfk very much i don't trust donald trump very much rfk joining donald trump i feel like makes them both better because i feel like rfk is gonna be pushing donald trump on some things that fucking matter that donald trump wasn't even going to address donald trump's gonna push r like rfk is not gonna be i i would imagine bringing up um gun grabbing or climate change all that much as long as he's working on donald trump's campaign i doubt that that's going to be at the forefront of his conversations when he's going on the campaign trail with donald trump because of all of donald trump supporters are gonna be booing him and i doubt that donald trump's gonna be talking about the big beautiful vaccine anymore now that uh while rfk is standing to his right watching him the guy who wrote the book about dr fauci so yeah so look and let let me offer this up um to any libertarians or anybody really who's just like is still locked into like the ego part of this or like the cult of personality like we all know that trump put seven trillion dollars into the economy and fucking caused massive inflation we know that operation warps be to something that he champions and like this is off it's it's awful it's awful dude that he's still on that tip but if if you could possibly like you said dude if he's just if bobby is in the vicinity right if he's involved right it almost gives him the ability to like absorb some of that sin and if you can do that like just put aside your ego if you want like whatever trump to pay for that or something let trump go right if you can get noramberg too like if you can get isn't that a good deal talk about art of the deal right all right trump you put you put these people in here so we're going to give you a pass but we're going to need you to deliver some covid justice i think he would do that and he's already surrounding himself with good people yeah surrounding himself with tulsi gabard so now look you're going to have some stuff that sucks tulsi gabard still is you know she doesn't want to fight the stupid wars but she'll fight some smart ones you know sure um so you got to watch that and there's probably going to be you know heavy zianist influence no matter what right now but um you're still this is not john bolton you know george bush mit romney liz chaney did not show up to the republican convention here you mean all the common hair supporters exactly bro the liberal world order the that you've been trying to protect so um brociously right that's what i keep people keep talking about like the peaceful transfer of power i'm like do you mean like the football like kickback and forth between the clinton's and the bushes for 35 years is that what the peaceful transition power uh they do they do that's what they mean yeah that's what we need to we need to keep that intact yes of course it's a peaceful transition of power when you agree on most things um now the next clip i got here is uh so bobby kenney is not actually completely suspending his campaign he is still staying on the ballot in certain places which sounds sounds familiar let's let's hear oh i want everyone to know that i am not terminating my campaign i am simply suspending it and not not ending it i name my name will remain on the ballot in most states if you live in a blue state you can vote for me without harming or helping president trump or or vice president harris and register just the same will apply i encourage you to vote for me he's doing the anselm carl strategy dave he's doing the anselm carl chase all of her strategy that's so great yeah he's not going anywhere he's staying on the ballots where it matters and not staying on the ballots where it doesn't matter so yeah fuck you it's like you know i i a couple weeks ago you could have said yo i'm voting for trump and i'll go okay i get it or you could have said i'm voting for rfk and i would all right i get it but now man and i'm and let me be clear you have more of my respect because you bowed out and you're going to take on the role to you know leading presidential assassination committee and then maybe you'll head up a committee or have a cabinet appointment something um and bro that's way better i've learned that you got to get what you can out of this and you doubt that would come with more value and it was somewhat selfless i have a feeling you're right dude i think i believe him i think this is probably tough on his wife who surrounds herself with all liberal dickheads that like you know that's just gonna you know he lives in california believe right that's i could be wrong about that but she works with hollywood types um yeah so that sucks i'm sure that's going to be harder for him but dude like that's what i'm saying like i would rather this is the fascinating thing that's happening across party lines is that people are finding that there are more important things outside of their historically their political home that you know maybe maybe historically that the the powers that be you know prey on a couple like key issues cultural mainly right and then they lock into that and they play those cards for like decades and i think trump figured out a way to kind of like explode that and just like figure out what everybody kind of wants to hear and give them that in a palatable way yeah so now you see these all all these disaffected democrats that i'm sure they're just the things that they value used to be important to the democratic party they used to be anti-war they used to stand up for working people yeah don't argue and donald trump are more left than kamala heres at this point like they're more what the left wing party used to be of the anti-war the anti big pharma the anti whatever whatever while meanwhile kamala heres is out there saying we need this the most um deadly military of all time and uh we're gonna we're gonna take care of the war like it's i don't know i'm torn because also rk you'll notice um i don't know if i've got the clips for that pull it up here but when he talks about anti-war stuff you notice that it's like we need to get out of all these unreasonable crazy ridiculous wars like ukraine period end of sentence that's it that's the only one we're gonna talk about we're Ukraine's bad but uh nothing else nothing else needs to be talked about here currently literally happening right now that uh yeah you notice how they don't even bring up israel in any way like not in favor not against just war bad ukraine the end and we need to get out of that so they're still you know they're still to some degree playing along to the the tune of of the regimes it's awful dude but like i look at it like this is you just like sorry the dogs are going nuts but like you got to kind of take what you can get at the moment like we're really not in that much of a position to negotiate so like if somebody was like fear local you know local municipality was like well we're gonna stop taxing seniors yeah like instead of going well that's not fair you should you got to do that for everybody just i think the best start there that's great start there yeah do that and uh so that's kind of the approach i'm taking across the board even though there's so many things to have on your list of grievances i get it absolutely and another thing that i liked about uh kendy's speech is uh how he is um he's not planning to shy away from disagreements with trump which i think is good because iron sharpens iron if there's any truth to these two mofos at all it would be great if they could both push each other to be better in a series of long intense discussions i was surprised to discover that we are aligned on many key issues in those meetings he suggested that we join forces as a unity party we talked about Abraham Langton's team of rivals that arrangement would allow us to disagree publicly and privately and furiously if need be on issues over which we differ while working together on the existential issues upon which we are in concordance i was a ferocious critic of many of the policies during his first administration and there are still issues and approaches upon which we continue to have very serious differences but we're aligned with each other on other key issues like now um yeah he gets into some more there but for the sake of time um it is great to see anybody doing an honest endorsement not just i mean sure there is to some degree this is just a a cave because it can't go any further but it's not like a nicky haly cave where it's like you had no chance from the beginning and now you're gonna come out and be like i don't love everything he says but it's too important of a time we got to vote Donald Trump no he's like i'm gonna disagree and i've made it known that i'm gonna disagree on some things and i'm not gonna hold back when i disagree on some things but it's too important like Nikki Haley wasn't like i disagree and i will voice my disagreement she was like i disagree but i'd really like a spot on this guy's cabinet so i'm gonna i'm gonna play along for now it like this just feels way more authentic because he's coming out and saying if this does not go well like i'm not just a trump guy through and through i am in agreement on certain things i am in disagreement on certain things i will let you know what they are when they come up but uh i'm gonna be allegedly honest about it let me think Dave oh man i think that we need this so desperately like i i'm always sus you know bro this is the show to be suspect of everything but to me this just feels like a win win no matter what uh i that's what i want i want people to be able to talk it was awesome back in the day when not everything was political and you could disagree that seems like ancient history like i hope we can get back to that i love having being able to have you know civil discourse um so that to me is really appealing and dude it's funny dude this is like this mirrors the mises caucus strategy of just like okay we don't need to agree on everything we can just find people where they're at and like look if you're good on guns we'll work with you if you're good on drugs we'll work with you if you're good on what the mises caucus is all about coalitioning and we got shit for that and then uh you've got people coming out and endorsing Kamala Harris while she stands for absolutely nothing and that's supposed to be okay stands for nothing except for open borders more war in trains or kids and that's that's perfectly fine um yeah libertarians coalitioning is not a new concept i mean it's a scarcely you utilized one to this degree but it would be great um if we could do more of that sorry dave kitchoff no i i just i would have i've completely changed my view of this stuff in the past three months it all changed for me when donald trump came to our convention to tell us all for one well no that that's definitely part of it a lot of this is just you know fate the way that stuff works works out um like i can't believe it at this point dude i don't even think like i'm not saying i'll get there i'm sure at this point i'm looking for somebody to convince me not to vote for donald trump that's what you should be true what's the case not to do it that's what i had a big tweet i don't know if you guys saw that but i said basically laid out the case for it um and i'm gonna actually do a debate on jacob winter grad show and like a week week and a half with oh nice yeah amissus caucus guy i think who still thinks that it's worth voting for chase so we're going to talk it out why i just you know and this is look this is all in the shadow of like dale do you believe in voting i'm not even sure that i do but like if you want to talk about what it means and what the utility behind the votes but look man it was a different game when you know the duopoly was way over there and wasn't listening to you wasn't hearing anything didn't give a fuck what you have to say and never has never will then he came to the thing so did rfk yep so and again i'm not looking to be like coddled i know that they just want our votes and they need that shit i don't care what they even personally make them dance exactly like look if all we get is rhetoric from these people and all we can rely on is public opinion from the rhetoric then let's i'm i'm willing to settle out of court right now if you want to keep the faith in the institutions alive so that people cherish the second amendment and the constitution the bill of rights then let's do that let's do that for four more year i think that's absolutely better like that's just better and it comes with some like whatever your flavor is over there if rfk if you were like well i really like this and well i was i'm more of a Tulsi gabbard democrat it's like well look what's happening everything is kind of uh coalescing around this for whatever reason so either they're all just totally in on it total shills for you know the technocratic yeah very possible sure let's keep that on the table i mean if i'm trump is to be the guy per their choice deep down and have this beautiful underdog story and have the elon musk's the rfk is the Tulsi gabbard's former democrats about face and support the guy that still makes sense i'm not saying that it's not still controlled to at least some degree but uh or possibly to the entirety but um yeah while it's happening it's uh it's hard not to enjoy it's hard not to enjoy that they're they're pandering even if they're just pandering yes i mean that's what i'm saying if this all is still fifth-generation warfare that jd vance and peter teal and you know kamer janolitica mocked up years ago with donald trump and his people to consolidate power and you know shred up the constitution and you know it will put you in jail for bernifle you know that's a straight up first amendment by like that has a possibility if he gets you know the mandate to come in and he's uh supercharged on america first stuff then you know like that could actually happen but that would be disastrous what that would mean for you know just the legal ramifications of that um and he admires guys like president she he would much rather be a king just like george job you bush said that he would rather be a king it'd be so much easier um so yeah we have to take the go with the bad man but um i would much rather some american flag wave and then some you know you know the flags the other flags so you can burn whatever you want just you know like pick picks a good flag um and it might be a big old scott but uh i'll take it over over the other one absolutely and i i think there's two more clips in this beach i know we're getting a little long this is supposed to be short um we're only at an hour and a half but we still the plan is get to some chase and cop at some point obviously we have to but uh we have actual politics that matter to talk about before that still um so i've had uh people tell me that they don't believe that uh rfk reached out to kamala before reaching out to donald trump and to those people alone i have to play this clip following my first discussion with president trump i tried unsuccessfully to open similar discussions with vice president harris vice president harris declined to meet or even to speak with me suspending my candidacy is a hard rendering decision for him now i i believed that he reached out to kamala harris because i think to some degree deep down robert f Kennedy jr is a whore and a politician who was looking for anybody to there there's a part of me that thinks that that's the case but after hearing this i kind of lean more towards he reached out to kamala harris so that he could say that he did like that is valuable just to be able to say like i reached out to them they completely snubbed to be my own former party the party of my uncle the party of my dad that party that anti-war party that anti-big pharma party those people snubbed me completely um but i i offered it it's kind of like you know if somebody offered you video ads to chase and cop hypothetically or or like or like when angela invited biden but she probably knew that he wasn't coming sure i mean it's better to put it out there and see what happens and then yep hey for i invited him i invited him to your fault he didn't do it yeah for steel stands chase cop you know who you are nobody else does but you do if you if you're still looking i've seen some of your ads we're going to look at them in a minute here but uh if you're still looking for to up that game you just let me know um yeah so he did reach out to kamala um rumors be damned he he did by his own words and uh did not turn out shockingly enough um i think this is the next one which is where he starts to break a little bit and you tell me if this is acting you tell me if this is genuine emotion as he talks about how everything that he's been working for his entire life he feels like he might miss the the opportunity before he dies to have the impact that he wanted to have on the world tell me tell me if this is fake is an orphaned issue and i had a weakness for orphans i watched generations of children get sicker and sicker i had 11 siblings and i had seven kids myself i was conscious of what was happening in their classrooms into their friends and i watched these sick kids these damaged kids in that generation almost all of them are damaged and nobody in power seemed to care or to even notice for 19 years i prayed every morning that god would put me in a position to end this calamity the chronic disease crisis was one of the primary reasons for my running for president along with ending censorship in the ukraine war it's the reason i've made the heart wrenching decision to suspend my campaign and to support president trump this decision is agonizing for me because of the difficulty is it causes my wife and my children and my friends but i have the certainty that this is what i've meant to do now i don't know how much of a god man rfk has been in the past um i've heard much about it i could be wrong but uh he's pulling out the god card which some people are pointing out that that is pandering to republicans but uh david did that that choke up there seem seem staged i feel like if you were going to choke up in a staged way you would do it in a more obvious way that that like that was just a very brief as he's talking about such a deep heart felt things as i want to help the children not suffer and die from the poison that we're feeding them and this seems like my last opportunity to do so and it's going to also i think it's worth a note that uh he said that his it will make life harder for his wife and his children now what does that tell you about the political landscape there's a part of me deep down who watches this man talking and a part of me is like this man is saying i'm probably going to die they're not going to like this this is going to make life harder for everybody and this is the right thing to do i am willing to take donald trump's bullet metaphorically or literally in order to push forward this uh this agenda that i have to save children from suffering what do you think dude am i just am i just eating up his his manipulation and political propaganda maybe man but we we don't need to keep reiterating how skeptical we are of these people in general but no man i i believed that i thought that that was genuine just from the one one watch and um man like yeah i i i wonder what a guy like that like we joked a lot dude and you know the Epstein stuff is out there he's joked about you know i have skeletons in my closet and if they all voted for me i'd win like these kinds of things apparently chainsawed off the head of a whale - that's the latest one that they're pushing around there yeah so my point is that a guy who comes from like the like american royalty and the utmost privilege and has probably guilt whether he's religious or not just if he's a spiritual guy yeah um he probably understands how much he was given how much of his life he probably wasted on just fucking being fucked up and you know treating people shitty and maybe maybe he even has some real sins he's like dealing um so i wonder like if that kind of stuff really invigorates i want to believe that that will really invigorate a man in his later years to like just to truly be like i'm just on a mission that's a good that's a good story that i want to believe i i hope that's true it looked like it was um and yeah this doesn't seem like i you know when you look for this stuff i was talking about larry senclair the other day that's the guy who uh you know blew obama in the limo and smoked crack with people yeah you know with him he went on talker carlson and people were like skeptical like oh i wonder if this is true i'm like i wonder if this is true too bro but it's not like he made millions of dollars or something like him famous being like what is in it for him he got a couple interviews and then probably a million death threats right like it like i'm sure life hasn't gotten better for him since that since then yeah it's probably going on 20 years so uh you know i i'm i err on the side of you know like what's your motivation there and um so it's cool that he can have some political motivation you know like maybe it's a cabinet position but when he says i believe that i'm here to tackle these issues that nobody else can i believe i tend to believe that that he believes that agreed and uh last one on this speech um this is one of the last things he things he said on donald trump and i found this to be quite telling to solve these these dire problems after eight years of president harrow so you can see the the single tier which he does wipe away later so it's it is real it is not fake he has one single tier there on his left eyeball but um yeah guy was like progressively getting sadder as the thing went on it felt like the whole thing he was just like reluctant like this wasn't part of the plan this isn't what i set out to do but this is what i have to do for me to fix the problem we'll be out of my rage forever president trump has told me that he wants this to be his legacy i'm choosing to believe that this time he will follow through his i like that that right there i am choosing to believe that this time he will follow through he's he tells me that he agrees with me on these things he tells me that he wants this to be his legacy i'm skeptical too but i am choosing to believe that this time he will fall through so still kind of throwing throwing some shade like he didn't do it we all hope that he would do it last time and he didn't do it this time i'm choosing to believe that this time he will follow through and i'm choosing to believe that he's telling me the truth that's how i feel about all these mother fuckers but uh yeah i'm choosing to believe that this time he is telling the truth dave do you think that donald trump is telling the truth do you think that this is all political bluster do you have the same hesitancy that robert of kendy jr has look you guys need to go to that tweet that i put out it's got like 6 000 likes at this point um but everybody thought that they were the smartest person in the room when they came in and were like but donald trump isn't no liar why would you believe okay yeah because that was the title of the things like here's the promises he made oh my problem is it promises it's like the actualy name but it was so many people to put it i had a just a copy paste uh answer to those people and i'll put it to you guys it was two things what other option do you have and what do you have to lose right so it's not even like i'm not saying you need to like come out and endure some by a maga hat and do the whole fucking dance but like literally just take those two questions into consideration um you know and this is like a spoiler alert for the you know the debate i'll have with this dude next week what other option do you have are you prepared to make the argument to me that chase out without using the term ballot access can you make the term can you make the argument to me that voting for chase and cop is is a better use of your time your energy and if voting actually does something a better use of your vote like i'll definitely i'll take you on on that i'm looking for hearing the debate because if i'm available i will definitely be in the chats hmm that would be great dude i could use the support um yeah i don't don't know how i was going with that but you know yeah well yeah um yeah i i i don't know i just liked that uh he has said throughout all of the speech he's been very seemingly very open seems like there's two main things that he cares about the war and the health shit and good because Donald Trump needs more of what anti-war and health shit um so please go and push him on that and uh i do i just like that he's willing to say we disagree we disagree on a lot of things but we didn't even talk about it go ahead didn't even talk about the fact he's going to put regardless of the other shit they're going to do a commission on presidential assassination here we go next clip Dave thank you for the transition here is the next speech where Donald Trump introduces uh RFK we don't need to play where uh you know the Foo Fighters there goes my hero is his intro which a lot of people were mad about that the that the Foo Fighters were used in such a despicable way but i was mad in a different way because i found it to be boomerish and cringe to have there goes my hero playing for for RFK to endorse another presidential candidate but you know it is what it is this is the point that Dave was getting into here we go he lost his father and uncle in service to our country and Bobby himself was subject to repeated threats to his safety during the course of his campaign while being denied protection by the Harris-Biden administration and this is a tribute in honor of Bobby i am announcing tonight that upon my election i will establish a new independent presidential commission on assassination attempts and they will be tasked with releasing all of the remaining documents pertaining to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy to that i say sure sure sure he would write what is happening why is Rosanne playing in my ear okay yeah i heard it uh yes yeah i i don't know if any of this is real or anything is going to happen but holy shit how amazing would it be in just from the perspective of our timeline living in a time where we jfk we're at like what you're 55 after his assassination and uh still nothing even though don trump did say that he would do this last time and failed to do it uh apparently Donald trump at one point said if you saw what i saw you wouldn't release them either i don't know what that means but it sounds pretty bad i don't know what changed between then and now maybe uh you know attempted assassination probably by the cia changes mind i would think it would change it the other way i don't know this feels like bluster to me but holy shit how amazing would it be if robert if kennedy jr the the nephew of jfk became like i don't know the head of the cia clint russell was pointing this out that you don't need congressional approval to appoint him as the head of the cia and just say do what you want i don't care because that's a corrupt organization anyway go hog wild and uh that would be amazing i know that that is fan fiction and that is you know um fantasy football type of talk but uh tave what do you think is is there anything to this or is this just uh more bluster because as rfk said i hope i hope that donald trump does all these things this time and he doesn't fuck it up again and now he's like well you know that thing that i said i couldn't deal last time i'm willing to do it this time because just because i've changed my mind what do you think dave dude i think donald trump knows more than he lets on i think you played that clip in the beginning um of the him talking about bombs in the towers um he used to talk about free range agent though right um no man i hope i hope that he comes out and and look he didn't just say like on a show like in passing like oh when when asked by like a host or something oh would you do this if presented oh yeah sure like made a promise he specifically brought out a Kennedy in front of thousands of people in a in a press event like campaign event and said that so it's it's like and this is again this is like classic trump over the past three months let me go to the libertarians i'm going to tell them everything they want to hear marxism is a disease and all this things very rough just right free all the all red russ fellow all the red meat that his audience could possibly want um but yeah that's that's very different than just like you know in passing yeah oh you i heard that he might abolish the department of education no he came to your event and said that and has said it on multiple platforms since so again i i don't trust Donald trump i know that he sells stuff um but i also think that he wants to be liked i think that he is seems to listen to the people that are around him and like takes that in when presented with good ideas seems like his motivation is i want to be received as the best president of all time that is my motivation how can i do that can i do that by freeing Ross is that something sure i'll do that that sounds easy enough uh bring rfk in tell him whatever he wants to hear yeah sure jfk whatever i've got nothing to lose because there's still a decent chance i'm going to prison any day now like he's got nothing to lose the best thing we could possibly do as a i was gonna say a party but it's not even a party if the best thing the liberty movement could do is is do what it's has done since ron paul is and is that is to just move maybe the the dissident right in the right direction like yeah make sure that dave smith is cooler than ben shapiro make sure of that so that like the movers and shakers are forced just because it's a market too right you gotta like and move the dissident left be back to anti-war like embrace the the yay-ay palestine gaza whatever if it means ending the war that we're funding by israel like sure i might not agree with your motivations but uh yeah push them on the issues great we've got a little bit of anti-war democrats left even though they're retarded yeah get jimmy doer back on top um make john steward great again um and just be cool like you you could have it should have been donald trump versus bobby kennedy that should have been probably the the national conversation it'd be great and then it could it could have been about like yo man warp speed bad news bears okay but you know like he would have had to address that yeah but but the democrats that's the thing man liability they are in it just like he was and they all can't go down right so we need our puppet be them yep that's that's why will harris couldn't wouldn't even talk to him wouldn't even talk to him and there's a reason because that to your message that's absolutely toxic oh let me hear what the anti-vaxxer crazy conspiracy theorists has to say like you would never do that pass pass i mean she want to talk to bill mar so why don't you talk to rfk this this in and of itself you could talk about all the specific minutia of the details but listen donald trump will speak to you kamala harris won't speak to you i don't know what else to tell you if you're just like well you know still up here that that's quite a something yes will not take a question from you cannot answer it without a prompter um i don't know what else you need um in installed candidate has zero policy still um will not talk to you what else do you need now on this rfk don't trump anti like poisoning people shit health they're focused on health which i i do think is do some degree commendable um the on the flip side we've still got uh you remember when uh joe biden was gonna cure cancer four years ago he's been saying it ever since he's gonna cure cancer operation whatever like moon shot anti-cancer like tell me that it's fake without telling me that it's fake yes it'll be just like the moon landing very real and we're gonna do it just like the moon landing um well uh more recently uh president biden posted we're mobilizing a whole of country effort to cut america's cancer death rate by half in the next 23 years and boost support for patients and families i know we can do this it's not just personal it's about what's possible now we went from in a matter of weeks but because he said this fairly recently i'm pretty sure at his like farewell speech his unofficial farewell speech after uh he stepped down um he said that we were still gonna cure cancer but now the goal post like we're gonna get to the moon by whatever 1969 or whatever we're gonna get to the moon within 10 years but now it's turned into 23 in 23 years you know long after joe biden is well been deceased we are going to cut the rate in half in 23 years 23 years it's a long ass time for for joe biden to have any say in how cancer is cured or to be taking credit for it right now but we can do this it's about what is possible not about just saying bullshit and then completely changing it later on dave what do you got no that's what you say when cancer rates are up like 70 percent that's what you say which probably has a lot to do with you know in real time in real time right yeah lots of things exactly um that's what you would say how like complete gaslighting dude it's worse now it's worse now than it was five years ago let alone 20 yeah but in 25 years dave it'll be a little bit less right right right because of joe biden and the work that he's putting in right now to curing cancer just just the fact that he i say he they have the audacity to like tweet from that account like any kind of anything about like plans plans that you're making like stop that you have no plan there's no plans for you you're not putting anything together um if he's doing anything it's like that meme of that you know hooker who schleps the almost dead guy up to the at end like get the money up they're just like getting his getting his signature on some things i'm sure to you know tighten some loose ends 100 percent yeah and um you know we had a dallen trump and uh ark engineer uh we didn't get into it that much but we touched on it we don't have to watch the clip but they definitely talked about anti neo-con stuff uh rfk legitimately said during his speech that we are here to overthrow the neo-cons the the bushes and the chinese and the whatever the that regime that is being propped up which i thought was a beautiful moment um in in contrast to that we've got the great harry sisson who says uh wow wow more than 200 bush mccainan romney alumni have endorsed vice president common hares huh these are lifelong republicans who know that trump is a threat to the united states huh this is amazing to see so all these former republicans are supporting common heresy you'd know it's legit because former republicans who fucking loved war are also not fans of trump and kennedy and all that they're they're friends of uh common hares good job you did it you did it neo-cons it's uh it's amazing this is the nature of things this is the balance that i'm talking about and that's when when you see the tectonic plate shift like this hopefully that is the thing that foreign policy is the thing that is driving this change between the two parties that's that's what it is so when you see cool democrats like jimmy door and ela musk and tulsi gabbard come on over and and rfk sacrifice everything including his family's safety and sanity and you know just the the legacy all that shit for what he believes are the most important things foreign policy health uh you know that stuff and free speech like these are the things that are supposed to be anyway non-partisan just everybody's down with that that's how it used to be bro everybody was down with free speech or at least they could pretend yeah yeah so i you know cool it's beautiful to see it is and uh one more thing here this is uh hasan piker you're familiar with hasan piker right um nephew i believe of chunk wanger whatever his name is from the young turks big leftist uh twitch streamer who just sits in his room for chump wanker i'm doing my best man uh it's a foreign name i don't know um he uh hasan piker sits in his room for hours and hours and hours every day i know we've done it for way too long today and we're gonna do it some more but uh he does it much more and it's sad because uh here's a leftist take a very very like propagandist leftist take on what Kamala Harris had to say about war which i thought was beautiful with our brave troops overseas as commander in chief i will ensure america always has the strongest most lethal fighting force in the world so um leftists are not uh or the people who have been pushing this the Biden nonsense the never trump nonsense the uh you know that this is the way forward we're not going back we're not going back to the past we're going forward to the neo-con future they're starting to take note at least a little bit because uh yeah what the fuck is the question you should ask to the party that's supposedly anti-war who is saying that we need the most lethal military ever known to man um dave do you think that uh do you think that i'm over playing this or do you think that that's what rompaul was asking for as well no i was more uh taken back by her like her madonna esque kind of quasi you know like uh like cosmopolitan accent that she put on there like she's over a non-spiated it's just a little bit it's funny yeah suddenly she lost the black accent that she had down in alabama uh right yeah the molasses on the tongue she definitely lost that we don't win in 2020 fall yep she turned that completely off in in favor of the debutant um that would that's that's pretty interesting mm-hmm yep so it's it's it's fun it's all fun and that's probably enough of that because we could do you got to touch at least a little bit on chase and cop whose links i don't have up but uh we will save probably a couple of these for later this week because we were planning on doing another episode because we're gonna do shorter episodes not today apparently we're not gonna do a shorter episode today but uh we're getting caught up we're getting caught up we definitely can't do one a week and try and fit it all in there so maybe we'll do a short episode on thursday maybe we will do um you know another one of these but um now for all the people that are enthusiastic about the support of rfk jr for donald trump and uh some of the some of the i don't know libertarian ish stuff that it brings some people some other people are not happy about it people like uh chase and cop and if we're gonna do the chase and cop we gotta we gotta set it up right this is the libertarian candidates chase and cop that's right it's chase and cop where we talk about the libertarian candidates more than anybody should ever bother to and clearly more than anybody is going to um because somebody's got to keep you up today on what's going on the really important things so the classical liberal caucus posted on twitter the other day um if you're disillusioned by rfk and tired of the two-party system don't give up hope chase all of her is still in the fight dave uh before we get to chase his response do you got any thoughts on the classical liberal caucus for people that aren't familiar uh this is like you know they are and started as an answer to the mises caucus their candidate was chase oliver and they got their guy and the guy who started this caucus one of them stepped away and endorsed Kamala Harris because who's that she's that's jasha will read equal that's right yeah we talked about that guy um so yeah she's defending the liberal world order as we all know uh praise nato and um and also cops but termot was not enough cop for that guy so he had to peace out and uh yeah he's going democrat which is great listen man this is has more to do with the just i like it i like people being honest they're like hey man look man he just he confirmed what everybody was saying like dude you're a democrat what are you doing now he ruined everything first he gave you chase and cop right but but and refused to vote for them at least and then refused to vote for him but at least he left and uh you know said who he really is which is the democrat classical liberal caucus shared that and chase oliver shared theirs saying still in the fight and i'm seeing this through i'm not going to anywhere um he it i i will say this is one thing that i agree with chase oliver on chase oliver is indeed not going to anywhere and um i look forward to watching him not go to anywhere anywhere being like you know on joe rogan or ten cast or um news stations or podcasts or rallies or debate stages or election ballots or joe's crab check i don't know he's not he's not going to anywhere uh per his own words but uh he is very adamant that uh rfk jr is making the wrong choice and um he he is not going to do that he's going to stick this through to the end he's going to hang in there because he is the right candidate and uh he also said by leaving the ballot in some states and staying on in others robert of kendy jr is showing his lack showing he lacks the seriousness to be president you are either running or you aren't by removing himself from the most competitive state ballots he is effectively saying he doesn't want the job he's running for i do want the job you can want it all you want i'll take it too if we're just handing it out that's great you can want it good job i'm glad you're still going and um it's uh it's a really really a testament to his principle that chase oliver didn't accept the offer from dalton trump's cabinet to uh to bring him in for his very heavy endorsement um to throw his massive weight behind another candidate it's it's amazing that he turned that offer down that definitely happened and he's uh going to stay in the race no matter what it got any thoughts dave i love that he proposes it like i'm in this to win this like the arfke jr is just not serious enough that's the problem right serious like he he couldn't hack it clown that's that's the problem with kennedy he couldn't hack it but i'm still in this i am not pressured the weight that a presidential candidate goes through like me chase oliver a gay man very listen not that that hasn't been through with it but just don't believe me ask ask mike tomato type um but yeah i am not going to anywhere um i'm just like look i at this point i don't want to kick a man when he's down like you know how i feel about chase and cop but like this is just you're bringing a savvy dave back listen honestly i think this is he's not down dave robert kennedy jr is down chase is staying in the race he's not down we're not supposed to be feel sorry for him he's the only person who actually wants the job do we think that is third place still in the cards for us that could be still in the cards the thought we were looking at fifth so yeah i think we might be back in this thing for bronze we have to have to bronze oh man that's the dream i guess third place um chase if you can get third place bro that would be great you're not going to get me vote for you as the third largest party in the country as the presidential candidate of the third largest party in the country if you can get third we will applaud you a little bit because that would be an achievement at this point um you know who else was not very happy with uh rfk jr's decision and had some word stave any guesses uh who is not happy with this decision who bradley witford no cop cop is also not happy and everybody goes to cop for his opinion on not only economics but also his thoughts on on robert of kennen jr if you've been supporting the robert kennedy campaign out of frustration with america's duopolistic political system you might be a libertarian and if you really want to disrupt american politics as usual welcome home to the libertarian party if you've been supporting the robert kennedy oh my god can you go back to that picture real quick you mean who yeah that that one right there yeah i love that you i just imagine going all right look we've we got to find someplace beige i got i got a lot of base based let's make this place we'll see if i can match make my suit match the background as much as possible probably at the airport that's what it looks like right yeah yeah so let's find the beige wing to uh make me blend in as much as possible i like it um but uh he he felt so strongly about this that he not only put out one message but two messages about robert of kendy jr and that one as hard hitting as it was wasn't enough robert kennedy supporters don't give up hope if you still believe in holding government accountable reducing government spending fundamentally changing foreign policy and keeping government out of our lives your libertarians and if you're ready to do something about it welcome home to the chase all of our campaign robert kennedy welcome home y'all if you were supporting robert of kendy jr because just because you don't do you think that government's too big to mean to bossy to authoritarian um welcome home to the libertarian party i just i just find it funny that he he thinks that uh anybody is is buying that like nobody is talking about you but welcome home to the party that you've never heard of i am the libertarian candidate for president um for vice president um mike termont aka cop yeah i think that they had a meeting one morning and they were like guys this is our moment there's going to be millions of people looking for an answer and we are going to give it to them get out there cop and you find some beige place that you can wear a beige suit and you fucking drop that shit like only you do get chase on c-span again and um that happened that that did happen he's been he's been on yeah that's the only interview that i could find of chase all of her in the last week he did one on c-span so getting that uh getting that media bro getting it look we we i i know we shit this is the segment to shit on chase and cop and we should but look nobody could do this this season is something different dude yeah nobody could do this it's infinitely more throw away more of a throwaway nomination than Kamala Harris and that's how the democrats are treating their their guy how do you think we're gonna treat you that's it that's it you think that the democrats have to put up a throwaway but you'll have some fucking you know life-changing candidate that will pull people away from the guy who's pulling it you know these are trump is a gelatinous cube that eats villages halsey gabbard is a machine in and herself rfk that's an entire apparatus like he's just like like a like a businessman consolidating the shit out of this but like you know merging businesses merging you know entire organizations and not that everybody comes along in fact lots of people will be fired we don't need you we're gonna streamline but you know like every you know just because he gets an endorsement or whatever doesn't mean like that's gonna carry over with everybody but um no a lot of it will so uh it's it's just crazy people they gotta adapt we got one more dave we got one more i think there was more than this this week i think he had four but the other one wasn't even worth mentioning um and did i mean none of these are worth mentioning they're just worth laughing at but uh here's his argument for chase Oliver the 2020 of four election is a unique moment in american history finally a third-party candidate like chase Oliver has a real opportunity to break the two-party stranglehold over our political system and create a government that serves the people not the other way around finally day finally in this unique moment finally the libertarian party has an opportunity to to make some waves and and make government for the people by the people of the people finally this is the first time this is a very specific special time where the people are paying more attention to the libertarians than ever it's not actually the the opposite of that in the literal worst time for the libertarians to make a splash of any kind because nobody gives a shit about anything but Donald Trump and sometimes Kamala Harris this is the best time you know we just this time where we were beat by uh a moderate guy who just ran on his own and said fuck the parties i'm gonna do my own thing we were beat by him already and then even he bailed this is a unique time for us because just because dave because i miss gary johnson fuck it i miss joe jorgensen dave dude you know speaking of her um like you remember how Beyonce wouldn't show up at Kamala's thing because like you know she understands that like i can't really put my stamp of approval on that shit where are any of any doesn't need to come from you know the mises institute where anybody anybody coming out going yo look at chase all of her here is the list of endorsements that just give me a give me a gary johnson give me a joe jorgensen at the very late give me give me somebody that's run for something of credibility in the libertarian party that should be the easiest sell but you can't even get the the random dude on twitter who got you to your position who is now voting for Kamala Harris just because it was all fake from the get-go like your support was never real they just they were the never trumpers were never mises caucuses and that's why you're there i mean everything worked out in the end i'll say that exactly the way that it was supposed to um like i'm glad that i'm glad rec didn't get it and then you know then the president became a martyr who got shot in the face and the you know the democrats did a coup and you know all that that would have been awful and then you know yes when the libertarian party had no more of of recognition maybe a little bit more but not substantially more recognition in this race because this is not a unique time a unique opportunity for the libertarian party this is a unique time for donald trump and look rec is a true dissident and chase is a stooge of the regime whether he knows it or not that's that's a fact right to me i believe that but at the same time rec or anybody it could have been dave like it with all the chain of events starting with trump coming to our our convention and saying bro this is the tweak trump has promised to free ross obrik abolish the department of education end the war in new krain ban central bank digital currencies leave abortion to the states you know 10th amendment should release the jfk files put a libertarian in his cabinet and protect bitcoin like i'm sorry but i just i've never heard anything close to as good as that in my life literally most libertarian president of my lifetime if you're right if you're serious now i know those are just promises and like like uh rfk like i'm choosing to go okay i'll take you at your words since you're so very public about this and you came and you said this to our face that's different just right that's a little different and again what other option do i have and what do i have to lose so all those things like that's that's fucking incredible in addition to that great-on-home schooling hates the WHO like pulled us out of that when he when he was president pulled us out of the world health organization yep that this is this is big win shit um you know hey it's an enemy of the libertarians though dave because they're more principled and nobody cares there's more there's more important things to me and look that you're talking to a guy who spent a tremendous amount of effort trying to shift the party and i voted for the guys that they put up for the past 12 years and i'm just saying that at the presidential level not only will you not get liberty in your lifetime you'll never get in the debate in your lifetime you that's not where your power is but i believe in your potential dudes i believe in like what we can do when you when you listen to like smart creative people like angela like dan like mike heis who can actually like i'll say yeah i'm probably good exactly throw me in there um but like you can do cool things we have done cool things what angela has done dude the foyer requests where are the feds at we haven't talked enough about that like that's fucking historic you know and when trump gets in office like maybe we can revisit that you know and i bet you that if he's surrounded with good people maybe rfk at the cia department you know get somebody on the horn because she's already worked with them that this is all this is awesome stuff so uh great dogs are and also speaking of awesome stuff we've got a new campaign ad from chase all of her not only new campaign ad but a new campaign slogan dave have you heard have you heard the news uh is it what chase your dreams thoughts is that oh fuck yeah more and more people are waking up to the fact that the two-party system is really a one-party system in this country i jump ahead to these ideas forward to the american people and this is what will break the back of a duopoly and engaging in political pro wrestling where they're not really fighting each other but they're putting on a performance you're not going to get anything meaningfully different from what the two-party system has provided you in your entire life a lesser of two evil is still evil chase your dreams empower yourselves chase all of her the candy for president and i prove his message now dave i just i just had to bring this up for one reason alone um chase all of her is a gay man right we all know that um chase all of our supporters insisted that we didn't want chase because we were all homophobes and bigots um not true nobody cares nobody cares if joe jorgensen was a gay woman we wouldn't care we would still like her or dislike her if if dave smith was a gay man we would like him um chase all of her as a gay man he has not let us forget that because it's very important to his identity i have never said anything about chase all of her being gay before now because this is the gayest fucking thing that i have ever heard from a political candidate whose first name is chase chase your dreams is this reading rainbow shit what are we like let her speak was lame now we're going with chase your dreams hashtag libertarian libertarian like that's the libertarian message is just chase your dreams great word play good job but um this is really gay this is gayer than um chase all of her's love life this is gayer than uh pride month this is the gayest thing this is really gay this is stupid this is bad it's it's dangerous thoughts yeah so earlier on there was a fake super chat from dc it says what are your thoughts on lpnh's recent tweet about chase being uh f-word um so this is one of two things see that one so here's my opinion on that i don't think like i like calling people faggots so don't don't get it twisted i like doing that but i feel like when they're gay it kind of like that's not that's not the way to go it's like that let me see k-bit or it's like uh it has nothing to do with you being gay it has to do with whether or not you're being a faggot that's it yeah i think being a faggot inside that dick that's probably something like the tweet that they sent out that he's not but but look chase my point is yeah dude that's really gay like that's a gay that's some gay shit so um i'm still not going to call you that i'll call you other names instead but at the very least it's boomer is all hell like yeah some some boomer committee member came up with chase your dreams and everybody's like i guess sure we got not here how can we how can we not take that right you got it's better than like gay you're yourself and vote cops there's not a lot chase perps by the way guys um chase if you're out there listening to this um hire me if you'd like and i can make you in the next uh the next ad that is worth watching that will have such uh well it will definitely not have such slogans as chase your dreams hmm kids um now one more thing from chase and cop while i run my entire career into the ground um chase all of her posted uh that him mike termot and the hodeman who has been on this show hodie john i don't know if you if you're familiar whatever um nice guy i disagree with him on a lot of things that's fine um join join myself at mike termot for vp and at the hodeman tonight at 915 eastern time to discuss why our campaign is the only real alternative to the two party system left on the ballot dave did you happen to catch the spaces why do you ask questions to what you already know i i just wonder if you were one of the four hundred and forty six that tuned in for uh for this space is okay by our candidate yeah yeah four hundred four hundred and forty six for a presidential candidate that is has a shot i mean meanwhile we've got you know robert f kennedy jr and donald trump live streaming on how they're going to like destroy everything and uh we've got chase his vp and some some other guy who supports them having a chat and four hundred and forty six people showed up do you ever wonder why the bigger platforms aren't inviting them on oh man this is just so sad i'm just again i have sympathy with him this would happen to anybody who wasn't fucking dave smith or amazing right now because dude you're just you're not nice dave out of the station everybody is in the conversation except you guys like you purposely want to be out of it oh the answer to the duopoly like as you're saying that like people from parties are crossing party lines be over like important shit as you're saying uh these were the answer were a solution or like we're in a third option i hate i hate that it's like it's so dishonest people are fleeing the democratic party to vote for dongle trump um putting their entire reputation on the line to do what they think is right at least per their words and meanwhile you're saying that we are the only option that is for truth and justice and peace and libertarianism it's like yeah but nobody cares like nobody is looking at you at all you're not even in the conversation a little bit when rfk jr went from the third largest candidate to a trump supporter it was down to two and nobody said anything about the next third largest trump or third largest candidate you were still not in the conversation even though you just got should have gotten a massive bump but all you had was you know how rfk jr is a coward vote for me i'm not a coward i'm gonna win this thing i'm gonna lie to your face and tell you that i'm i'm telling the truth like we can say all day long there are k and don't trump our liars and we don't trust them but chase all of us telling you that he's in this to win this if you say that you're in this to win this you're the one who's lying too you're the same you're a politician and i i empathize because of course you have to say that that's your job to lie but uh lie a little bit more convincingly please otherwise uh nobody's gonna care listen bro you know as well as anybody that i would love to have a third party alternative party to choose from we worked very hard to like make that happen and i'm not saying maybe someday if like a you know barring a miracle or something maybe you could have that it's just at the presidential level that's not in the cards like we we need to learn that right now like i was kind of thinking that and maybe this is selfish or naive i thought that the mists caucus people were just like realists to the point at by and large that like okay well we can't use this at the presidential level and obviously this is the the project decentralized revolution this is the manifesto that's what they call for but like i'm talking about the people who participate they still need the presidential candidate the party still needs a presidential candidate we still need to play all these things it's just like so we got to keep lying to ourselves like this because you really are not an option you're not a third option so we make it is the entirety of the game plan step one fake it step two make your dot dot dot step three make it that's that's all that's by the way this is not the post libertarian argument to abandon the libertarian party it's just like this isn't what you can do with it yeah this is not in the cards you will not win at this level so please refocus your efforts you still have some potential value yeah are you using it or are you just doing the thing are you just being the libertarian that does the libertarian political thing and has the same libertarian political outcomes in the words of don't trump uh okay fine keep getting you one percent that's great go ahead or you can vote for me i'm not saying vote for trump i'm still not vote for trump but god damn it i'm getting the more uh hairy systems that come out and say yeah but the neo-cons all voted for Kamala Harris stop begging me to vote for trump even the opposition is begging me to vote for trump and i don't want to i will love to have another alternative and currently the alternative is staying home or blowing my brains up i have a theory that uh the reason that i'm leaning towards voting for trump and the reason you're saying that you would not is because you come from a rural republican area correct where you suffer from republican guilt and you're surrounded by you know maybe cultural preferences that have left bad taste in your mouth whereas i come from the left and i don't have any of that guilt i've never voted republican before so it's like this thing that i'm i'm willing to do because i'm altruistic it's a little bit it's a little bit different um but right historically cultural conservative in an ultra conservative neighborhood town whatever like it's not my favorite thing because you know we all came to libertarianism yeah we all came to libertarianism because we were like the thing that we've witnessed in our lives the thing that is surrounding us is not working so we're going to rebel against that and go towards something else and then we tried the other thing and then we eventually ended up at libertarianism so yes i'm still to some extent bucking against my upbringing because i'm a we're all rattles at heart or whatever very very special snowflakes all of us um dave you're bucking against yours you're like you've got it easier right now because you're just like let's go uh for me it's more um i or at least i'll pretend like it's more from the conspiratorial level that i don't trust any of these motherfuckers as i've mentioned many many times today and i'm waiting to see where this goes and to see if it plays out the same as the same skepticism that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has i have for all of them let's see like if you if these are what you want your legacy to be then please do it but i am cautious because we did that once and we had QAnon and we had Donald Trump with all the things and we ended up with covid 2020 um so i i'm cautious because i don't believe anything that they say and i hope that they keep lying to me in more convincing ways to make me feel better but i'll ask you this the same two questions i asked everybody on twitter what other option do you have and what do you have to lose nothing so i'm sorry thank you no well that's where we kind of the libertarians would come out and go my principles and whatever your dignity and i again i'll please i'll give you some pushback on that going to vote for somebody doesn't mean you believe everything they ever said or endorsed me i live in Illinois or ever did my state is voting for Kamala Harris no matter what so it doesn't really matter at all but i guess whatever that's and that's what i've been thinking about what your vote means and what people obviously our culture is American culture we cherish our vote right it's like precious and we talk about it we talk about it like we're a guy who's walking into a car dealership and wants to be taken very seriously because he's got i got ten thousand dollars in my pocket and i'm ready to spend it today so i want to be you know what i mean like my vote i want to be and it's not like that but at least it does feel like it has currency right like my if at least if you're talking about it publicly oh i'm going to vote for Trump here is why wow you like you you put that on the line a little bit right or if you're whatever i want to vote for chase Oliver and here's why um yeah i don't know bro i just yeah i'm not i'm not pretending anything like as i said last week like gun to my head the chase Oliver question gun to my head what would i do i i the trigger would go off oh oh why not to my head show up why not just show up why not take i know it's only 15 minutes like that's uh ben the emo and cap was chimed in on that tweet and he was like well if trump did any one of those things that listed i read to you earlier like that would be so great but i doubt he would be able to but it would be great if he did it's like but you don't have 15 minutes to go to your local polling place bro i'm probably going and i'm gonna write in something uh right now we're literally either trump or nota and i will write in nota because it has the same value as as penciling in trump in my state it doesn't fucking matter and uh i i'm glad i didn't vote for trump last time because it didn't go great it went better than joe biden but it didn't go great the popular vote will be recorded in the state of illinois and it would be it would say something if it went redder than other other election years don't you think is that not i guess what i'm asking you is it literally yes writing nota is a protest vote yes writing in rompaul is a protest vote but is not is it not the biggest protest vote as donald trump said when he came to our convention to vote for him and i wasn't sure that is the biggest protest vote yes right now it is the biggest protest vote and i feel like it's exactly what they're trying to get me to do so yes i'm still i'm still the asshole libertarian who's just not going to vote because you're telling me to you are begging me to do it i'm just not there and you are doing a great job of all the politicians that are trying to convince anybody of anything they are doing the best job left right libertarian every single one of them is doing the best job they possibly can't convince me to vote for donald trump and that's why i'm not sold yet keep going we'll see where this goes i don't know but speaking of all these freaks we got to talk about some freaks dave because we didn't give them an after party last time we got to give it to them this time so we got to stop talking about the the freaks and politics and uh talk about those for a bit so if you want to hear us um judge people based on their every aspect of their lives and be the worst humans we possibly can by by determining the freak of the week come on over to patreon.com fort slash the system is down and get the after party we where we will be doing just that we will be looking at people who have said or done or been gross humans and we will be saying that's the worst one that's the worst of them all and uh we have a an ongoing um i don't know thread if you will of champions who have fought freakishly to to earn that title and we will continue that right after this but uh dave where can people find you and all the the nothing that you do these days you can find me in the great state of delaware or you can find me at uh on the great platform known as x um what's this uh debate debate that uh you're talking about where can people plan that one because i'm going to check that out for sure yeah i don't know the uh i think it's jacob wennigrad's channel he hosts i think it's christian anarchy so yeah dude that's right up your alley biblical that's it biblical anarchy um i think it's going to be on that platform and um yeah it's going to be amesis caucus dude defending why we should vote for chase and i'm going to make the case why we should vote for trump and um still haven't endorsed him yet by the way bro i'm just saying i'm putting it out there i read you the list of a shit it's very it's very appealing so again what do you have to lose and uh who else what else would you do what is your other option answer me that and um yeah follow me on twitter follow me on youtube that'd be great right on working to find you on twitter oh it's right there the uh the old day versus goliath one mm-hmm somebody got had to add the one man so he took it but yeah too slow um you can find me @tsidepod on twitter or dan@tsidepod.com if you've got a an email complaint concern question submission for freak or what have you and you can find me at the systemsdown.tv or wherever the systems downs are sold thank you all for being here this was supposed to be a shorter episode but as i've said a million times on this show every time it's supposed to be a shorter episode it's a longer episode but we are still going to jump over to the afterparty and uh have some fun there so thank you for being here thank you for hanging out and uh we'll see you guys next time whenever that is till that question everything's staying comfortable be bad have fun talk to you then bye welcome to the system everyone's a victim doesn't matter if you're black or white i hate you all there is all the system violence is a symptom fighting for what's right but somehow everyone is wrong [Music]
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