Ben & Woods On Demand Podcast

8am Hour - The Incorporator + Bret Boone Joins The Show!

Ben & Woods start the 8am hour with Woodsy unveiling plans for his epic 50th birthday SOLO trip to the U.K. to see Oasis. Then we bring you The Incorporator and hear how Jesse Agler worked the word "huitlacoche" into last night's broadcast before we're joined by Audacy MLB insider Bret Boone for his weekly conversation! Listen here!

Duration:: 39m
Broadcast on:: 28 Aug 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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We've got a kid coming in who wants to, he's interested in this business. Now, we don't can't have interns here. It's for whatever reason, I don't know why, because-- Corporate policy. Yeah, trust me, if we could, we'd have 40 of them. Well, 40. I think part of it is that nowadays they've realized it's really not fair to have unpaid internships. Sure. But then companies go, OK, then we're just not having interns. Correct. Because we don't want to pay them, we don't want to pay them. It's kind of. There's no good solution there. But we will oftentimes, when somebody presents us with one of these ideas, say, yeah, come on by, and we'll see how the sausage is made. But little does this kid know he's actually going to do the whole nine o'clock hour? I'm going to dip. I'll just give him the mic and say-- Oh, come on. You can do the whole week this week. We don't even have a roundtable tomorrow. I'll throw you-- I mean, what better experience than just saying, here you go, kid, here's the mic. You got an hour. Have fun. Throw him into the deep end. Right into the fire, man. I mean, we were all thrown in the fire at some point in our careers. And I don't know this kid's name. Maybe Andrew, I think. I thought Trevor. Maybe Trevor. It's in an email somewhere. It is. I mean, so I hope you guys enjoy this kid. You call him Andrew, I'll call him Trevor. And I'll see who's right, who's right when he walks in. But let's just give him the mic, Ben. And we can dip and let him do his thing. That would be an interesting segment. It would be a great segment. It would be terrifying, wouldn't it be? Yeah, I can't kid. It's scary for life, here. Yeah, you wanted it. You got it, right? So there's another. We have a couple of different topics here to talk about. But one of them-- Well, I want to get an update first. Have you gotten your Oasis tickets, yeah, for Mamchester, England, on your birthday? No, they're not on sale yet. OK. I've got a pre-sale, nothing. So there's a-- got an email yesterday. Sign up for the pre-sale. OK, so I do. I'm not kidding you when I tell you this. They had a questionnaire. How many times have you seen Oasis? Who was the original drummer? What's the right answer? I don't know. The more you have seen them, the more likely you are to get tickets, or do they want new people who haven't seen Oasis to get tickets? No earthly idea. Trivia question. Who was the original drummer? Who's the answer? It was Tony McCarrel. And so-- You can just look that up on Wikipedia. Good, yeah. And so you go through that, you answer it. Then you get an email which you have to confirm. And so you're-- I'm allegedly in the queue for the pre-sale. What's up, buddy? What's your name? Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. I was right. I thought it was Andrew. Sorry, sorry, sorry. It's Trevor. Andrew Trevor. Trevor, Andrew everybody. Trevor doesn't know that he's hosting the 9 o'clock hour. We're going to give you the whole-- We're leaving early. We're leaving early. Yeah. And the Trevor Show-- It's going to be 9 to 10 today. I hope you're dynamic and entertaining. But anyway, so I get the email. I confirm it. I've got irons in the fire. I've got a buddy that's looking into stuff. I got so many irons in the fire for this show. And I did get, I will tell you, some disappointing news. My little brother can't go to the July shows because he needs to be home for June and July because this-- I mean, it won't go than it can't go, but-- It's a can't go. This moron is running his third iron man. No, Ben's right. It's a won't. He can't. Choosing to run the iron man. Right, right. He's training and all that. He's already done two. Can't is like my kids got leg surgery that we-- Right, that's true. Won't is. I'd rather go do my third. My third iron man. I don't know what's gotten into him, but we clearly don't have-- I told that to my trainer when I went to my trainer yesterday, she goes, that's crazy. He's done three of those as well. Yeah, he's done two when he's training for search. So this whole plan I had is out the window now. He said, if they announce the US, we'll definitely do that. Maybe we'll go to Chicago and wear the site of the original concert was supposed to be. That would be pretty cool or the Rose Bowl. So here's-- listen to this, though, Ben. A total of 1,066,888 tickets will be available over the 14 gigs with demand set to be four times that. These shows will sell out in less than three minutes. Extra dates will be added, for sure. So I got the clearance this morning from the Mrs. that she said, since Brett can't go, and it's way far, and it's your 50th, go if you want to go. If you want to go, buy yourself and travel-- Buy yourself. So I think my 50th will be a pilgrimage. Do you believe her? Yes, she gave me the go ahead this morning. She said, she didn't. I mean, she's like, yeah, go. Have a ball. So we phrased the-- Kind of sad. Hey, if you want to-- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, you or me, one of us. Trevor, do you want to go to Manchester, England next year with the Oasis? What's to see Oasis? So I'm actually semi-excited about it. I think that's cool on your 50th to have a little pilgrimage of like, this is something I want to do. I'm going to go do it. And I'm going to fly back. It's good attitude. It also could be viewed as spending your birthday alone. It's kind of-- But I will not be. I'll be with 100,000 of my closest friends. Everyone having the time of their lives. That's the goal anyway. So if I get tickets to that, I'm definitely knowing that we can-- I'm going to try to go to both shows. But that would be pretty spectacular. But we found a better one for our old-- I may have a 49th birthday plan here, thanks to-- No, it'll be your-- oh, no, it's this year. It'll be your 49th. Yeah, Eddie K619 tweeted me and said, Oasis, Moasis. This is the big one for Ben Higgins. And it's October 25th through November 9th. So right? During my birthday, new residency at the Venetian Resort in Las Vegas. Foreigner with featured original members. What are the dates again? October 25th through November 9th. I'm just going to miss them. A residency. Well, I mean, you know, it's like three weeks of shows there. Yeah. You think you would travel? Would you travel for a show? The answer is no. Vegas, Venetian's nice. Very nice. So it's a pretty nice spot. I do like all the songs listed at the top of the Flyer Jukebox Hero. Our Tuesday open. Hot, urgent. Urgent. Cold as ice, double vision. I want to know what love is. I want to know what love is. And it feels like the first time. I mean, if they just play those seven, I'm good to go. I'm going to roll. Just play those in a row and then I can get back to the tables. That's an easy one. That is an easy one. Well, while you guys are off seeing Oasis and Forner in London and Las Vegas, I will be spending my birthday next month at Bloom Nightclub. I can go see Eurotrash. What is Eurotrash? I don't know. There's a looked up-- I looked up for a concert on my birthday. [LAUGHTER] Our boss, Adam Clue, just said. Dad on a Sunday is playing at Sotivar. Adam said, I wouldn't go see Forner if they were playing in our performance studio here at the office. Are you insane, Adam? He is the Dan and Shay lover. Imagine backing on Forner when you're like, yeah, went to Dan and Shay. I didn't bagging on anything. Imagine bagging on any band. If you was a grown man-- You went to see your team in the World Series. --to go see Dan and Shay. And he's insane. And let's be honest, he teared up 1,000%. He likes it. He says he went for his wife. He didn't. I gave Paul a Forner album for Christmas. He's paying my album ever. I love it. I don't know about that. It's so good. It's really good. I mean, let's put it on. And it's just like banger after banger after banger. It is. So now that I've gotten it in my head of going solo, people are like, I'll go with you. I'll go with you. It's in my head that I want to go solo. I don't want to go with anybody now. Now I just want to go by myself. Because then you don't have to worry about, did you get your ticket? Do I need to buy them? Like, I can just go and do it and then come back. One of the greatest things I remember about becoming an adult is traveling by yourself for the first time and not having to worry about anybody else. Nobody else's feelings. What they want to get to the airport when you want. Yeah. Go eat if you want to eat. You don't eat if you don't want to eat. You're even waiting for like the rental car. I'm going, I can go whatever I want. Pick whatever car in the aisle I want to take. When I was young, I have to consult with anybody. When I was younger, the thought of going anywhere alone paralyzed me and then I got married and I had kids and now the thought of going anywhere alone, whether it's CVS or anywhere. I'm like, this is how, this is travel. Anybody, I can stay in a dump Airbnb or a hotel in Manchester, I don't care. I could fly whatever seat I want. I don't have to worry about anybody else. Now I'm like, I hope nobody goes with me at all. I hope I get one loan ticket in the 50th birthday pilgrimage. We will need to document it for us a little social media. Oh yeah, come on now. You'll want to be along the way. It'll be the best content that I've ever done. It's going to be so much fun. So yeah, the bigger question is you're going to bring the equipment, right? Yeah, absolutely. That's on a weekend. Thank God. It's on Friday and Saturday. So I'll be taking Friday off to travel for sure. Are you just going for the weekend? I'll probably go like four days. That's it. Yeah, it's a couple travel days and two shows. Yeah, just a quick one, man. It's a lot of flying. Yeah. Tony says, you force your kids to listen to Oasis. Yeah, I'm going to take your golf clubs. No, no. Head up to Scotland for a couple of days, hit the links. No. St. Andrew's, old course. No, no, my brother is going with you. I'd make you do that. My brother suggested that. We have it. Let's bring dad. We go up in Scotland, and I'm like, egh, egh, egh, egh. I'm just going to go. I'm just turning into a 10-day vacation. Now, I'm just turning into a 10-day vacation, and I'm already having another vacation. But that's the plan right now. We're a vacation over here. Breakfast is midlife. Yeah. Yeah. Good life crisis. Johnny says, would you really on a generational run of vacations this year? This will be next year. That's true. Yeah. But you've got your whys. You've got your Philadelphia. Philadelphia next year. In July, it's going to be a very busy month for your old pal. Colorado coming up. Colorado coming up. Allegedly. We'll see what, we got San Francisco in a couple of weeks. Everybody continue to please support and listen to this program. Because would he is going to need that support to fund all of his extravagant trips that he has planned? Yeah, Yolo. Yolo. Our boss, Michael, says More Vacation Island, boy. Thank you. Sign me up, man. You only live once. All right. We've got the-- I live by, and I've been trying to make. I'm a island boy. Yeah, go buy t-shirts, please. We had the Incorporated with Jesse Agler yesterday when he joined us. And oh, yeah, he nailed it. We will pay that off for you when we come back. And then Brett Boon will join us at the bottom of the hour on a Big League Wednesday. Don't go anywhere. It's better woods, and Paul, and Trevor, on Savie. It goes number one sports station, 97.3, the fan. 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(upbeat music) - A great song that Charlie Blackman has scarred me on forever. - I know, it's all, we almost need to bang it from the rotation here because, Paul, he'd make a note, would you just bang that entirely because-- - I love that song. - I love it too, but it's really good. - But it's really nightmares because I always feel like he's about to do something bad to the San Diego Padres, but I hear it. - When you hear it, you're like, oh, there's a double. Two run double there. So good, man. - It's a great song though. - It is a great song. - Hi, welcome back, it's Ben Woods and Tuesdays are Incorporated Day with Jesse Angler, the voice of the Padres, joined us for a lot of corn talk yesterday. - Lots of corn yesterday. - When we learned that the corn will actually sweat in the Midwest heat, creating even more heat and humidity, and that's why the Padres and Cardinals look so miserable last night in the game. So with that in mind, I was able to give Jesse a corn related Incorporated word, Paulie. Jesse is a civilized man. I'm sure he's gone to some nice restaurants and seeing this item perhaps on a menu at a fancy Mexican restaurant, but it is a, it's a fungus that grows on corn that is a delicacy, especially in Mexican cuisine. - You eat the fungus. - You actually eat the fungus in, in America, it's just called corn smut, but when you order at the restaurant, it's called Quidla Coache. - Quidla Coache. - Quidla Coache, and I will text it to you, Jesse, but. - Quidla. - Quidla Coache. - Quidla Coache. - Yeah. All right, that's a tough one to work into a broadcast. - Very. - Jesse nailed it fairly early in the game, I believe, yesterday. Wasn't it Paulie? - Yeah, he texted me and he said, "Hey, sorry about it," because he started his set up and then Miles Micalis got hit with the comebackers. - Right, twice actually, yeah. - Twice, and it kind of slowed everything down. So I had to kind of chop it up a little bit. So this is one of the longer setups and executions, but we go to the top of the third out at Bush Stadium. And nothing in one. A pitch to Bogart's in the airfowl at a playwright's side, strike two. You're going to think I'm making this up, and I swear I'm not. But apparently, it is even more humid than usual because of a particular problem in the Midwest right now. Corn. Oh, two. Bogart's takes a little bit low ball one. Apparently, the corn is sweating. Did I know this was a thing before today? I did not. But apparently, it's a real thing. And the corn, the crop, when it's in the ground can sweat and release even more moisture and humidity into the air. One, two pitches outside, two balls, two strikes. - I did not know that, but clearly, I've been here when the corn has been sweating before. Because it really feels like this. It feels like every summer we get here. But certainly, the corn could be adding a little bit of extra humidity. - We'll see. - So yeah, the corn is sweating, which is making the humidity even more impressive. I'm sure those of you who are very into a cuisine or wondering, what does that mean for the Wheatlock coaching? - On the right. - And I don't know. - I am not a farmer. - I don't understand the different ways that the conditions impact the corn. But that's where we are in St. Louis in late August 2020. - That's fantastic. - So you probably, if you listen to Gwen and Chris, you know that Tony is big sweater, especially like, yeah, if he doesn't like any spicy food at all, just starts dripping instantly, you know? And he's got the shaved head. So he just like instantly, like a fountain. The second he gets any spicy food. I've got to imagine that the heat and humidity of St. Louis also makes him start sweating. So I bet he was very uncomfortable. - It's miserable. It sounded like the last couple of days. - The booth is terrible there, as Jesse said, and dark and fugged and infested. Dave Marcus sitting behind you, two fans on him. You know? - But you can't have him. - None for the talent. Yeah, you can't have him near the microphones and just rotting there. You know, and watching these pitchers pouring sweat. It's just awful. Like we just don't give them enough credit. We don't. The broadcasters, the team, all of it is just miserable. It's a miserable experience. And it made me think last night, they're talking about, you know, next season, the A's playing up in Sacramento. And the particular field that they play on in Sacramento then can get up to like 130 degrees in the summer with the heat index and bouncing off the turf and all of that. And you see that and you go, how? How are they going to do this? And of course, the A's will be playing 81 games there. And it's not always that hot in Sacramento, but you're a visiting team. You're coming there and you're like, oh, cool, it's 130. I remember when we were kids, some of those games in St. Louis at Old Bush. I'd prefer a new Bush to Old Bush, always have. But you remember that stadium? I mean, and you could like see it. I remember like Tommy Her playing third base of me and you see like-- - He's radiating and you're like, yeah. - That shimmer in the air, like a mirage. - And back then, those uniforms weighed 25 pounds to put on. And just thick as thick as you could get. You guys just out there dying. - I want to bring something up. 'Cause you said, you know, some of the pitchers not getting enough credit for what they've done. - This is the players. - But in particular, there's one. And I wanted to bring up Yuki Matsui because he's taking some-- - He's taking some lumps. - He's taking some lumps. He's taking some slings and arrows. Maybe you don't know this about Yuki Matsui, but I heard Jesse mention it last night on the broadcast. He came in yesterday. He leads the Padres in appearances this year. And he said, well, what's the big deal if he's not effective? Well, he got the win last night and he's four and two with a 3.32 ERA in his first season in American professional baseball after coming over from Japan, making all those adjustments that you have to make, new hitters, new culture, everything that you have to do when you come from a new country. And he's got a 3.32 ERA. Jeremiah Strato, been fantastic, 3.280 ERA. I mean, essentially, and not as many appearances as Yuki Matsui. Yuki Matsui's actually been a very valuable member of this Padres team. He gets very little recognition or credit. Mostly just gets dumped on 'cause he's given up a couple of big home runs and frustrating moments. But for the most part, he's actually been a really good pickup in signing for AJ Preller. - Well, we always talk about, you know, players needing to make adjustments. And Yuki came in and he had everybody just so confused with his great stuff when he started. Then he hit a rough patch, which is going to happen to every single pitcher and player throughout the course of the season. - Especially Eruki. - Eruki, he is, I know he's older because he's played in Japan, but he is Eruki. - But then he made adjustments and has been so massively effective. And again, another weapon in that bullpen. I don't look at anyone in that bullpen. And every single one of them has had a hiccup at some point. I don't look at anybody and not have trust in them. And that's got to be a good feeling for Mike Schill. He knows more times than not he can count on those guys. It's pretty incredible how they've manipulated the starting rotation and the bullpen this year. Again, a lot of credit goes to them for sticking with guys, for Ruben helping them make adjustments on the fly. And he's been really effective, knock on wood. I mean, we say that. I feel like every time we mention somebody. - Now you have a bullpen though, where Eruki Matsui, a guy who has been effective, is maybe your number five option. On days where some of your top guys are down, you can throw him out there and feel pretty good about his chances to get some outs of Sammy Levitt posted, I think it was from this morning on MLB Network, they were talking about the Padres bullpen. Mark Dorosa said, I'm taking this bullpen to lead me through the postseason over anybody right now. Dan O'Dowd said they legitimately have a chance to win a World Series this year. The discussion, Padres, 34 saves, 3.9 ERA, top half of baseball, strikeouts per nine innings, fourth in baseball, walks per nine innings, second fewest in baseball, and whip top half of baseball for their bullpen. It's a good bullpen. It's gotten much better, obviously, since the trade deadline wasn't horrible before. It was kind of middling. And now it is elevated itself to the, really, the top level of bullpen in baseball. Yeah, and he gets swing and miss, he gets chase. Now, you know, the walks aren't great, but I think he's dialed that back a little bit. Way back, no way back, he's dialed it back. So, I mean, he's been great. And what another nice weapon from Mike Schiltz, able to have down there. But again, making those adjustments, he easily could have thrown in the towel, man. And, you know, just, I don't have it. I'm walking too many guys, I'm putting too many guys on, guys are hitting me hard. He's been fantastic. Knock on wood. Now, before we go to break, and then we got Brett Boone coming up, Jesse Ackler wasn't done last night in the day. Really? No, we got a bonus. You teased it, you mentioned it, as we were bringing Jesse on yesterday, that we'd kicked around the idea of doing Oasis lyrics, and he didn't want to jinx the man. I'm not going to jinx it. So, we went with Ben's word, but... Homebie. We still be in seats. (dramatic music) This was once a baseball oasis, and it certainly can, it will be again, right now. I don't think it was. - That was a legend of time. - What a legend. - He did that on purpose. What a legend. - Through an Oasis. - Through an Oasis. - A legend. I like the Secret Second Incorporated, as Tyler said. - All right, Brett Boone will join us on a big league Wednesday. He is coming up next. You don't want to miss that. Stick around, more Ben and Woods coming up on San Diego's number one sports station, 97-3, the fan. (upbeat music) All right, guys, keep rolling. We keep rolling until 10 o'clock here on a Wednesday. It's Ben and Woods, a 97-3, the fan. We've got Brett Boone standing by on a big league Wednesday. We will chat with the former big leaguer, always one of our favorite conversations of the week coming up right after a check of traffic here on 97-3, the fan. (upbeat music) All right, music can mean only one thing. We are joined right now by Odyssey MLB Insider, Brett Boone. Insider calls presented by Granger with supplies and solutions product for you. Call clickgranger.com or just stop by, Brett, the host of the Brett Boone podcast featuring notable names from MLB and around sports every week, including Homer Braves pitching coach Leo Mizoni. - Mm-hmm, this is Mizoni or Mizoni? Was it Mizoni or Mizoni? - What's that? - I call it Mizoni. - Mizoni, all right. - Yeah. - I've heard both actually, right. - I think I've heard both. - I think I've heard both. - Either way, a guy who coached, you know. - Yeah. - Maddox and Glavin and Smol. - Yeah, Avery, I mean, nasty. - Which, and we've been talking about Greg Maddox this week, Booney, with that documentary, the talking about with his brother and just some of the great stories that he's been sharing. Are you on any Greg Maddox or Braves pitching stories for us? - It's funny, I was watching that called Greg Midway. Is that a Midway through your documentary and, you know, in Maddox fast? Boom, what do you think? I said, I think it's just so you. Maddox, he's unbelievable, you know. He's eccentric, he's smart as anyone I ever met from a pitcher standpoint 'cause pitchers are usually not very smart. But I think he kind of spread that around to that staff and why it was so astute. I mean, you hate as a hitter when you're thinking true at bats. Usually nine times out of 10, the pitcher on the mound is just worried. He's so wrapped up in just getting it out and getting the next out. But those guys weren't, they're reading body language. They know if you're sitting on a pitch and the nineties braves, I think. And obviously I only got to see my generation, but the best starting rotation I think I've ever seen. And Leo was right in the middle of it. I got to play there one year and my spot was right next to Leo and they'd be rocking back and forth and I used to, you know, grab him and go, listen, you're stressing me out, this is awesome. Like Boney, I've been doing this for 10 years before you got here. I said, well, just give it a rest. Leo's great. He has some great insight and really they had a philosophy in the nineties that nobody else had. They had a way to get you out. I knew what they were gonna do. And if they executed their plan, if I come up and I talk about this all the time, if I come up, my first is bad. And you hang me a slider and I hit one of the seats. Nine times out of 10, I just eliminated slider from your repertoire. You don't want to throw it again. The real smart, high level guys, they'll throw me four sliders in a row to start with my next bat and I'm going back to the dugout goal. What's he thinking? Didn't he see? Well, he's thinking one move ahead of me. I hated when you started thinking with me. I like to eliminate a pitch and then build my case for my next three bats off that. If I can eliminate fastball away, just a base hit to right field. I don't need to hit a homer, but if I can take a well located fastball down and away and hit a knock in that hole on the right side, that pitcher's going to, she, how did he hit that? I located it, I did it. Well, I pretty much eliminated fastball away. Now all I have to worry about is coming in on me, which I don't want to hit anyway. We're going to try to trick me and eliminate the pitch. And that's all I ever tried to do offensively. If I can eliminate a pitch, I get the advantage. It goes, the pendulum swings to my favor, but not with those guys. I mean, it didn't matter. They could throw me anything anytime and it didn't matter the success or the failure. There was no rhyme or reason. I couldn't eliminate a pitch. This SOB in this video, I watched Greg Maddox talking about in a meaningless blowout game, he's going to throw a pitch that he wants Jeff Bagwell to hit out for a homerun, wants him to, wants him to. So that I don't know if I buy that. So that was great for the legend. But yeah, except for the legend in the playoffs, because we're going to face these guys in the playoffs. And guess what he's looking for? That three straight change ups away. Bagwell swings over every single one of them. Game over, cause he's sitting on that, that two seamers in. - He's touching it and presses like, are you insane? - And he's like, what are you doing? You know, he pounds it inside. I don't know, I'm going to throw one inside and watch him hit it out. And it's just in saying, yeah, it could be all BS, but for happenstance, but they called them the professor for a reason. And you know, Brett, I want to ask you, I hope this makes sense too. You're talking about that. When did you start as a player, a kid, when did you start thinking in your ABs, instead of just sea ball hit ball? I'm going to pound this ball. I don't really care where it goes. What was the age for you where you're like, I have to start taking these. I never thought of, I was so scared up there. I just wanted to hit the ball and really not embarrass myself. But for you, when did it start like thinking through ABs like that? - You're right. I mean, because, you know, when I'm talking to young players, I gotta assess whether they're ready for this information, whether they can handle that. You mentioned you were scared. You didn't have the confidence in yourself to sit on a pitch and lay off the other one. It took me a long time. And I wish I'd look back on my career. That's one thing I wish I would have gotten a grasp of earlier in my career. So it was the second half of my career. I was pretty much a sea ball hit ball. Coming through the minor league, swinging hard, hair on fire, didn't care. I got to the big leagues. I got a little humble pie real early. And I started sitting on breaking balls, but I really didn't have a formulated approach till the second half of my career, where I had the ability to stick with a program. By the time I left the on deck circle, each at bat, at bat after at bat after at bat for 162 games. That's when I became really a fully rounded player in my opinion, and I had an approach. Some days it didn't work. Some days it did, but when it didn't work, that didn't mean I abandoned it. I knew to give myself the best chance to be as successful as I can. I had to do it over 162 games schedule, and that was going to give me that ability. It's really a cat and mouse, a chess match. I knew Pedro Martinez was reading my body language. I knew if I took a fastball for a strike in a situation, he was on to me going, "Wait a minute, why did Boonie take that in an RBI situation? He must be sitting on something else. Now I had to counter my thinking." So with the rare guys like that, it was really a chess match. But I think it's what makes the game. When I was young, Edgar Martinez took me inside and said, "Boonie, you're going to have to start sitting on breaking balls." This one I was a kid. And I remember Ken Griffey Jr. walking passes with his hat on backwards. He's like 22 years old. It's already been the three all-star games. And he looked at me and goes, "What are you guys doing?" I said, "Grip, us normal people were trying to formulate a plan for tonight." And he said, "Just what you said, what's?" He said, "Ah, I just see ball hip ball." And he walked by and I thought, "Well, must be nice." And Edgar looked at me and goes, "Don't listen to him. He's different than us." And that's what I knew I had to have an approach. But really I didn't put that fully into the process until the second half of my career. All right, Boonie. So you against Pedro Martinez, oh, okay. And he throws you a fastball and you take it, okay? You take it. Depending on the situation. Depending on the situation. And then he's thinking, why did Boonie take that fastball there? Or how did I take it? How did I take it? Was I late to the take? Did I get my foot down late? Like, I'm looking curveball or slider. And the fastball got there too quick. So my front foot got down late. Guys like Pedro would recognize that. Guys like Maddox, Smolz, they'd recognize that. And I knew it. And I'd get a glance at them. See if they caught it. And I could tell whether they caught or not. Now I got to redo the thinking in my mind. And it's a nightmare. David Wells was good at it too. David Wells would throw me a heat. I wore him out the first half of my career. He'd throw me a fastball for a strike. I'd hit one in the bleachers. Next to that, he'd throw me three fastballs. And he'd be laughing at me because I was facing him out. I'm going, what are you doing? That's a higher level thinking. David Wells would do that in the second half. David was very successful with me. That first part of our career had all the success. Second half, he had all the success. And I had to make it the adjustment. It's an unbelievable game. It's my favorite part about the game, the game within the game and long-term thinking as a hitter. It's weird, man. I didn't do any of this so I turned 40, you know what I mean? No one told me about this when I was 16, 17. It was-- Right, it's not a guess. And that's what people say. Oh, you're guessing. Oh, it's an educated approach. And if I'm sitting on a curve ball, I'm sitting on a curve ball slider or a changer. I'm sitting soft. And if I get one of those, and he might throw me three fastballs to start, I might be 2-1. And he just throws me three hitters. That doesn't mean I abandon the break-and-ball approach. That means I'm waiting. And baby, it's coming. If you can wait them out, get it, then you won the game. But the second part is, when you get your pitch, don't miss it. Yeah, that's it. You're missing it, that's when you're in a slump and they're getting you out with everything. That's brilliant. Talking about bone insider calls presented by Granger. I've got one for you and no offense to Bobby Wood Jr. I could tell Marte or Francisco Lindor. The MVP races are pretty wrapped up. Show Hayo Tani and Aaron Judge this year. But for your money, which one would you want on your team? Obviously, Judge is playing the field every day. Otani's going to come back and pitch next year. Who's the best player in baseball? Well, the best offensive player is Aaron Judge, I think. I think he separated himself like in my generation. Bond's did. I think he's the most prolific, the biggest different maker on the offensive side of the ball since Barry Bond's. And I don't even think it's close. I think, Juan Soto is a great player. I think Bobby Wood's a great player. I think Show Hayo Tani is an electric player. But offensively, I think it judges just heads and tails out at this stage of his career. If you're going to ask me to take one, if Show Hay, can I have a-- can you preface it? Is Show Hay going to be like a real solid number two or number one? Coming back next year. And he's pitching like he was before he got hurt. I don't think that's a no brainer. I'm thinking Show Hayo Tani. When you add that, he's essentially two All-Star players. Yeah. An All-Star pitcher and an All-Star hitter. And I don't need to think the greatness of judge on the offensive side. I don't think you can fight with a guy that can-- oh, yeah, by the way, I'm going to go out and pitch a 7-8 and shut out ball tomorrow. As I go two for three with a three-run homer to win the game, you can't really fight that. How's your brother doing in New York, man? This is always that time of year. Can he get down to it? He's doing great. He's doing great. And I laugh. He's sitting there right there with the best second best record in baseball. And it seems like he's been hired and fired six times this year already. If you look at Twitter, it's been 600 times. It's unbelievable. It's just the beast of New York. But I always tell them, where else would you want to be? Who cares about the Twitter? Who cares about the talk shows? You know what you're doing. They're having a really good year. It all comes out of the postseason for them, especially in New York. And it's the team that's healthy. It's the 2020 goal we've talked about on this show quite a bit. Nowadays, the most important thing is having a healthy roster going into the postseason, because health is such a premium with the amount of injuries that happened in the game today. When you-- now that we are getting close here to the last month of the season, and the Yankees are fighting for a division title, the Padres and Diamondbacks are just three games back, there's been this whole thing, though, about the teams that wait and don't play in the wildcard series, getting kind of rusty or cold or not playing well, like what's your take on the postseason format and how it impacts teams at the end of the year? I love the format as a fan, because I think it's the best thing for baseball. I don't like it as a player, because I think it cheapens the postseason berth that you get, and put on your resume. That being said, I'm a fan now. I'm an analyst now. I love the postseason in the history of baseball to be able to predict what's going to happen, because you just never know. And that's why I say health is at such a premium. Right now, and then not just because I'm on the radio in San Diego, I'll take the Padres against anybody in the World Series, right now, with a fully healthy roster, must grow coming back and be in that horse that he's been. And the way his pitch is first, I know he's going tonight, his first reality has been pretty darn good, with Darvish coming back soon. Tatice is going to come back soon. I'll take San Diego gets anybody right now. And Arizona, how is Arizona? I've been looking at the roster. How are they doing? It's incredible. Arizona just rattled off 15 and 5. And they're coming. These guys are making an eraser in the National West. Phillies haven't played the greatest, but on paper, they're as good as anybody. You don't hear about Milwaukee and Minnesota, but they're dangerous. And then you go over in the Cleveland's, Kansas City's coming out of nowhere to make that central a race. The Houston Astros, you can never count them out in the young town at Baltimore Orioles. There's just so many options. Right now in the National League, I'll take San Diego as it stands today. August 28th, I'll take the Padres right now. That bullpen is a whole different world, man, with that bullpen down there. You've got weapons everywhere. You get a lead just like last night. They came back the way they did. They've been so good offensively. It's chipping away when they're down. And then you get the lead late in the game with that bullpen. A lot of teams on the other side go, man, it's over. And when they start, you start mentally making them feel like it's over. That's a pretty good thing. That's what that bullpen can do in San Diego. Love it. And Brett Boone is no homer for San Diego. Yeah, you see, he'll tell it like it is. No doubt about it. Brett, thank you so much. We'll chat with you next week. You got it, guys. Thanks. I was on a CMLB inside of Brett Boone. Insider calls again presented by Granger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Granger has the right product for you. Call clickgranger.com or just stop by. I think that's the prevailing thought right now that with the Padres playing as well as they are, getting healthier at the end of the season. There's no reason to think that they're not one of the favorites in a World Series tournament. Yeah, the stuff from Booneing that I love more than anything is the internal battles, you know? That was amazing. But it also is disappointing, because it makes you-- when you hear that, you go, I know nothing. I know nothing. I really don't know a damn thing about this game. When you hear that he's watching how your foot lands on a take and-- it makes you feel stupid to every comment on these guys. It really does. It doesn't surprise you. When you're doing something hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times, you're going to get pretty next level on the thinking when it comes to whatever it is. It's true. It's true. Fascinating stuff. 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