Seated With Lebo and Thato Rampedi
Self Discovery, Personal growth and Vulnerability
So, have you ever stayed in a toxic relationship due to fear of being alone? Yes. Oh, is that a day or two? No! How does the game weigh again? True! I can open up to all my boys, my boys are my boys, but like, girls it's very hard for me to be like listening, like today was like really tough. Like, I didn't know what's going to happen, you know, type out. 'Cause some girls can look at you and say, "Yo, yeah, hey." Men are finished. And the hands have been sayaged, "My man is in his failure." Then you see all his data's not this as he can complaining about violence, he's giving his desperate to be rich. We were locked in, that day lock is a rent out, that though. And then I started crying and she just looked at you. Even with me with like vulnerability, I struggle to be vulnerable with women now as well. Like, I'll be talking to a girl, she'll be like, "What's wrong?" I'm like, "Mm-hmm." I was like, "We men of the worst at this, that we go through experiences, let's say we showcase vulnerability that was shamed for it, we won't ever be vulnerable again." Do you got what I'm saying? Ever. I mean, we see with a lot of our friends, like, I hate to say their names. "Perse in Honset." Very, very hard. Like, with them, bro, "Perse in Honset, they were in relationships, they didn't go wild, they were hurt, they won't ever be in a relationship in a type of suit." Yeah. So we keep building up these walls as men. ♪♪♪♪ Hey, hey, Chef, it was a welcome back to a brand new episode of "Sita with Level" and "Tato" Rambi. We're back again, baby. Yeah, it feels good to be back. We're very consistent. What are we on, episode 7 of season 3? I don't know, but I thought that just, I need you guys to switch on, because we're doing it. They're not consistent. They're not consistent. They, they, they, they, you know. Go ahead, hey. They okay. You're welcome for like a month and a half, but not a bit. Yo! Sorry, my, my, my name, can I have to bully them out? I have to bully them. There's no, I can't bully them. We're going for a while. For one month and a bit. Yeah, but not a bit back, bro. They posted yesterday, they posted us two weeks, so they're consistent. Yeah. Also, I'm so close to getting them their first deal, like on the podcast. Yo, what? Yeah, I'm very close to getting them their first podcast deal. But yeah, bro, how are you? How are you doing? How's everything? Oh, we're not going to do the first question of the week. You're not going to tell us the agenda. Oh, sorry. So this is, yeah, I got these first podcast. My bad. So today we're speaking about exploring self-discovery and relationships. Not like actual relationships with like your partners, but relationships with like your friends and yourself, right? Basically, the teams are self-discovery relationships, personal growth and vulnerability. And yeah, man, we're basically defining those things, speaking about how we feel about those things. Yeah. And I've got some games also lined up for us as well. Okay. That sounds very interesting. Get ready, get excited for the first ever mini-united event right here in South Africa on the 7th of September, 2024. Guys, this is going to be happening at the ground in modern truth and it's going to be the first time we get to experience a full day with fun, activities, activation, amazing people, and so much more. As mini-enthusiast guys, we finally get to celebrate the brand. So Portrait was going to be absolutely amazing. And we get to see the new mini-family. Yeah, guys, mini-united has promised us a day like no other. Folds with not only a community spirit, but also great music. And we're talking about genres like hip-hop, pop, house. Guys, I'm looking at the lineup. I'm seeing DJ Khadna. Yeah. Devan Gogog. Yeah, guys, my stuff. Brass hotel, guys, and so much more. 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Yeah, we have so many brand deals in the podcast. But I feel like I'm missing out. Yeah, check out Spotify. By the way. Yeah, but, yeah. How are you? How are you? How are you? I'm OK. I started the week off really badly. Like, I chilled yesterday. I didn't do any work. But I shouldn't choose today. I didn't do any work yesterday. What did I do? I think I just shot a podcast. A podcast? I'm not a podcast. I shot like a TikTok, sorry. Those are two very different things. Yeah, it's two different epic levels. But I shot like a TikTok. Yeah. I think I made that as much as the template thing, and then tended that meeting with you, guys. And what else did I do? I'm not crazy on the work. I'm looking for a carpet. Well, that's something I do a lot. Just taking it in, boy. You know, being an employee means that you're getting, you know? Self-employed. Yeah, self-employed. Hey, the new unemployed, guys. It's not every kind of self-employed. That's what they're calling it now. But yeah, being-- But nothing else. I mean, OK. Yeah, what are you? You're not self-employed. You're unemployed. You're a freelancer. I'm a freelancer. I pay myself a salary. I'm self-employed, yeah. If you pay yourself a salary, then it's self-employed. Yeah. Yeah. If you just have money, then you're a freelancer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But your checks are coming in, though. So it's not like they're not coming in. Yeah, then they, you know, it's not like-- It's not like it used to be, you know? But think about that, bro. So you're saying you had a slow Monday, because I know, like, incorporate-- You guys speak about this a lot. It's like, in our minds, it's like entrepreneurs, and people that are, like, you know, working for themselves with other people in the space. We think you guys are there, like, working from nine to five, like, grinding. No. So like, when you-- your first slow Monday, as an unemployed person yesterday, compare your slow Monday to the office. It's exactly the same, low key. So my question to you is, in terms of effort, it's exactly the same, low key. So you-- so maybe just, like, a bit off. But-- and then, do you feel more guilty in your slow Monday in your own capacity, like, unemployed, more than being employed, or is it the same level of guilt? Nah. The guilt is different in the office, but people watch you be lazy. [LAUGHS] Some offers you feel-- you feel worse. Like, people watch, yeah. So you, like, and, you know, we talk about how many work hours in a day is it, eight hours? Yeah, eight hours a day. Eight hours in a day. Probably people only wear three to four, though, if I'm being honest. And everyone wears a job or comment down. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. It's a fact. It's a fact. So there's a lot of things I've like-- So a lot of things I've like, you guys on standby to be given work. No, it's because also, you're working on things that are due today. You're working on things June next week. And you're working on meetings that are-- for things that are June next month. So at all of these things that are happening at the same time. So, keep in mind, there's times when there's no meeting for what's happening next month. Yeah. And there's no work that's due today. It's only June next week. So then what happens? You say, it's a-- so we have Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday. So Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday to get this thing done. So you'll allocate three hour, three hour, three hours per day, per day, per day. And then you get your thing done by the due date. Oh, just in my head when you guys add work. I was like, OK, guys, 11 a.m. This thing is June submits, like a test. Obviously, there's like seasons like that where like, you need to get to work with having a presentation done. So you guys don't have to do-- You guys don't have to deliverables every like two hours. No, no, no. It's not like that. It's a job. It's like you. I've never had a job before. You've never had a job before. You actually have never had a job. It's like you saying to yourself, you know how we have the thing that's due tomorrow. Does that mean you're going to put full effort on Monday? And they'll put effort on Monday to like, pre-plan. Yeah, but we pre-plan the previous week. So then now it's like, it's not like-- Oh, I got your-- I'm saying, let's say that was your only task. Oh, yeah. My task is to get this derivable down on Wednesday. Yeah. On Wednesday, Tuesday, Tuesday. On Tuesday, you're using Wednesday at-- I mean, you're using Tuesday at like 5 p.m. OK. To get what I'm saying, though. So I think that's pretty similar. Because you're in the consulting space. Like, you're using like-- You're at a higher level. No, but I mean, being a-- Put someone at like-- No, I mean like-- Put someone in a different space. Like, put someone like, you know, that's like a banker. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. They are always working. In my mind, the way a banker's working-- Yeah. It's the same way you guys work in the office. That's what I'm saying. Say like, being a consultant basically means that like, you're going to pick up the job of the space that you're going to occupy. So in the space that I was in, I was like a data analyst. Always shop because they're working with data. OK, yeah. In another space, I was a business analyst, right? And that is hectic. You know, that's every day. That's the-- that's the stuff. BRD making a BRD in the morning. It takes like a week. This medication has changed. What I want in and out. As this process. What I want. All these things that like happen. That's hectic, right? Yeah. But again, it's all about length-- Like you're saying, I was a consultant. So it's like length of the project also has to be taken to account. If it's an eight-man project, you're not going to do eight months in three weeks, brother. It's going to take-- it's going to be slow. You know what I'm saying? Other jobs, as they say, four months. You're here for four months? You're grinding. We need this thing in the fourth month. Yeah, because a lot-- Because some of my engineering friends, they're always like, you're always working. We're so tired. Some people in like the banking sector too. Like Maggie shows like, yeah, bro. Like, I'm working the whole day. I'm coming back to-- Some people do late shift like at night. I've done night shifts a couple of times. I guess it depends on the-- It just depends on the season. But it also depends on the sector that you occupy. Like you say, if you're in banking sector and the financial year is closing, it's going to be a hectic time. When you might go home, APM, you know, but then when the financial year starts it, things are chilled, man. You know, not things that are hectic. You know what I'm saying? So it really does depend. Yeah. OK. OK, for me, how-- how-- because that's you. How are you? That's-- that's how you are. How do you keep asking me more and more and more? By the way, I'm fine, guys. I'm fine. So just to conclude everything, I'm OK. Like, I'm fine. Yeah. How are you? I'm good, bro. I didn't have a slow Monday. Like, I woke up late. But I was like, oh, I went and I started spining, spining, spining, spining. You are the reason I had a slow Monday. I called you from hours eight all the way into like-- No things that I didn't have. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, you were lying on me to work. No, I can't-- I come here. Then we worked. That was the agreement. Oh. So then he wasn't answering his phone. I started my Monday at like what? 11 p.m.? Because I was-- I had a hangover. I was tired. We were out the night before. Yeah. And then I worked from 11 p.m. until 11 p.m. Because I went to go work with the friend also. Yeah, she went late. So I did go. So I guess I made up my time that I missed out on my money. But my bad. Because you all mean to link every morning and like-- Yeah, and push. Yeah. But I'm good, bro. Like, business-wise. Like, business-wise. Things are slow now again. Because I was in his face. I was getting like a lot of brand deals. So now I've got like maybe two, three deals in the works. I mean, we're working with bad boys who shouldn't have today. I'm back to a good Lenovo. That's really exciting. I've got a contract with me for eight-man, which is also really dope. Oh, yeah, so remember this. But then I started off that there's no new work. Yeah. I mean, if I knew ways to make money before the money finishes. Same, yo. What would you for so long? Same. Like the entirety of August, I didn't get a single deal. Like, no one deal. Signed to Rambiri Media. Well, besides the podcast deals. But that's, I mean, I don't count those under my portfolio. But yeah, you only got like no deals for this month, which is crazy, bro. This is my first month this year of other deals. Yeah. Otherwise, I'm good, bro. Friendship-wise, everything is good. I'm trying to pick up new habits. Like, back to the gym. I think I went to three sessions last week. Not too happy about that. But I went yesterday for this week. I didn't go today. I didn't even have a chance to go today. But if I do get a chance, I'm gonna buy. Let's say Hun Zhe's late and Percy's late. I might have shot like a quick hour, you know. Otherwise, I doubt it. I'll just pick up tomorrow. I'll be able to do two sessions tomorrow. Or I'll do a session on Friday too. I'm trying to like distance myself from people as well, like more and more. Because like, we meet people every week. And then when you meet people, they're like, they're like, yo, we should hang out again. I was like, I already have my friends. It's like, it's like, it's like, now you have to put a new friendship again. Even like with girls. But specifically with girls, obviously. Also, yeah, also, it's difficult because it's like, yo, dude, like, I just want to be friends with you. But sometimes people mistake in like, your niceness or your gentleman. Or your lamb's eyes or gid or your heart anymore. Or your loves it. Oh, your days. For love. For love. Like the hell. First of all, that passionate kiss that we had last week, doesn't mean nothing to me. That's a day. Sigma One is understanding self-sevetage, you know, when we hold ourselves back. So I was, I was wondering to obviously define self-sevetage. This is the act of intentionally or unintentionally undermining one's own goals, aspirations or relationship. Often due to fear and security or past experiences, right? So it's basically when you don't feel like, you know, you're worthy of. Oh, no, no. It's basically when you do things to prevent your goals from happening. To prevent progression. Yeah. I think I didn't even hear the definition. You just read it out loud. So the act of intentionally or unintentionally undermining one's own goals, aspirations or relationships. Yes, oxygen due to fear. Yeah. So now for you, how do you feel like you've ever self-sevetage within the workspace and then we'll move into other spaces? I think the number one self-sevetage that I suffer the most from would be imposter syndrome. I think definitely that goes a lot through my mind. In everything that I do, I think in work, in terms of like work, in terms of like content work, in terms of myself as a person, in terms of my dating life, I think that that hinders a lot of progression. That's like my number one thing. What about you? So the same one. So when you feel imposter syndrome, do you feel like you're incapable of completing tasks at work or you just feel like, "Esh, I would like you to be here." Does it affect your effectiveness and your ability to actually enjoy your goals? Because I live under God's grace in Fana. So sometimes when I can't carry myself, I just expect God to carry me. Or I'm blessed enough to hear in my space, "Nah, did you actually art that guy?" And that will make me be like, "Okay, cool." And music again, I told you, like I like to zone out. So I like listen to music with headphones on like four guys. And I go have something to drink, like something very, very strong, like bitter, like coffee or something like that. Just to numb all my senses, just like in focus. And then that'll like, numb out. What the evil voice is in my head. What about you? Unposter syndrome, bro. I actually like to carry because Raymond's here. He posted a video. Hey, Ray. At the back. He posted the videos like on his story, he was like, "Yo, do the performance of Africans is not like lack of information or lack of data. It's people's ability to like, action out." Something like that. People's ability to like, "Actually, we can teach you to do this thing." But it's up to you to do it. And I was like, "Shit, that happens a lot with me, like with some small talk, like with not even small tasks. It happens to me with a lot of tasks as well. Like I know that okay, cool surface, like short term growth, long term growth, this is what I have to do. But I'm very capable of actioning out other things with like, you know, under and above my industry. But then I don't actually go and do the shape because I have a certain level of comfort with what I'm already doing and earning. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, for me, it's like, I don't necessarily have imposter syndrome, but I just have like a... Let's get it done syndrome. Lack of action, lack of action out syndrome. But that's why I think it's like a to-do list when you wake up in the morning and you're like taking off the to-do list. Remember, I told you like, you just get a deep body out of five. Watching the new business is not a to-do list, bro. It is, bro. Sometimes, you know, we spoke about it. In the steps. Yeah, we spoke about it like the, I think, two podcasts ago. We said our long term goals intimidate us in the short term. Yeah. So let's say I'm like, oh, no, I really want to start like a company and start paying myself. And this is this, you feel horrible. The moment you can't like, let's say that day, don't register it. But you still have the company idea, you know what I'm saying? You're making logos, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And don't, don't, don't. It's about showing up every single day and doing the small steps that are big, that are built up to... And I don't think you, you always like make sure yourself that parts on the back that you do do the small steps well. And instead of what I'm saying, to pull it up to the bigger thing. But yeah, I can't what you're saying, bro. I would just, how would you say yourself sabotage with them like relationships? Our sort of friendship, because we so, we so love orientated on this podcast. But it's live. I mean, I feel like, you know, people are just saying, oh, you guys, all you guys, those people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, bro. That's the thing that's like, it's like a third of my life. You feel me? Yeah, like we literally work. We have romantic partners, we have friendships. Yeah. And then we have hobbies and we have a couple of them already. All right. That's why I like love those company. But yeah, how do you yourself sabotage in friendships? In friendships. Bro, I always undermine how much care the other person has for me in friendship. Always, always, always, always, always. So I'll be like, oh, no, this person doesn't mess with me anymore. What a what a because we didn't see each other two weeks in a row. What a what a what a. And then I'll be like, I think, well, how you been that I missed you? And then I'm like, oh, never mind, like never mind. That was just me, dog. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I think I'm, I think there's two different types of friends. There's the friends that are high maintenance friends. I think I'm a high maintenance friend. And then there's the other side, which is your low maintenance friends. The friends that you talk to after two years and say, hey, I will talk like you spoke yesterday for two hours, and then you hang up and never speak again for the next three years again. Yeah. So yeah, I think that's the only problem with my substance. I'm a high maintenance friends. Yeah. What about you, Jake? Would you say you're on the high maintenance or low maintenance? And like, what are your? Friendship. I'm a very low maintenance friend. Really? Yeah, like it's just that I don't mind seeing my friends, but like I can go weeks. I've never seen you go weeks without seeing us. That's because we have a culture of seeing each other. Yeah. But like I can go weeks without seeing Matadi and Lucas. Yeah. And he can come through and he can be like, oh, it's not baby unite. We can show the whole day and boom. But would you guys think of like, we work together every week. We're gonna see each other at work. We shoot together. We all stay within the same, you know, area. We're all together. We're all everything going through. So it's like, ah, dude, we've built a culture to see each other, which is also beautiful. Which is a good thing. Oh, so we don't think guys is a bad thing. Yeah. So I think I'm more of a high maintenance when it comes to relationships. Yeah. You know, when it comes to a romantic partner, bro, like I really need to see my romantic partner like every other day. But that, that, that, that, I don't know if it's an age thing. Because if we go back to like how life was like 70 years ago at my age, I'd have a household. I'd have two kids. Three maybe. Three maybe. I'd have, you know what I'm saying? I'd have a, a very collecting, very era, like you have a farm. A thousand years ago. Oh, whoops. You know what I'm saying? So like, for me, it's like, no, dude. I know that when my mom was my age, she had. I was three, four. Yeah. Then my dad was my age. I think he was engaged. Yeah, but your self's understanding, they were in a rush. They didn't know how life was going to work out. I mean, their first black president was coming out when they were in high school. It's very tough. I mean, you know what I'm saying? It's very tough. But my point is that like, natural instinct, like human nature. Yeah, I'm just saying if Hitler was, you know, the president right now, I'd also get married now. You know, they didn't know, you know, you know, you know, you don't understand what I'm saying? Yeah, they didn't know the longevity of life and how fun and how much struggle they're not. My point is- Might as well marry the person you like now. Yeah, but my point is, like, not our surroundings. Human nature. In terms of human nature. Like obviously, you know, as generations move and pass, as new generations are formed, there's certain things that we like yearn for based off of what happened in the past in history. So now, so I want to ask you. So now you're, um, can I say age on the podcast, 27? You're 27. So many times. I'm just saying now. You're 27. Do you- When did the feeling of like saying to yourself like, oh my god, like, look here, I should be like, I should be or start thinking about marriage. Wait, did I start at 26? I'm trying to see how many years I have arrived. No, so like the feeling never came due to age. It came because of me. Because I was anti-marriage. Remember for years, I said, I only get married. I was anti-case too. I was like, I don't have kids. So for me, the thing of like, okay, cool. I've experienced life so much that I now see that, okay, cool. When it comes to dating, I prefer the type of relationship. When it comes to family, this is my deal situation. When it comes to my Monday to Friday, this is how I see it looking, you know. So I don't think it's like, it came, it came this year. It came now now. Thank god, so I still have time. It came now now. So for me, it's a matter of like, okay, cool. I can really see my days with the wife, with the kid even. So, so, so, how's business? Besides finances, why does holding you back from having that life? And obviously finances are obviously a big aspect. It's like, oh, it's like one of the biggest ones. Yeah, it's a big, it's arrogant to be like, no. But I'm saying besides that, I want to see what qualities or characteristics you've identified in yourself. Or personally. Yeah. In yourself that you've identified that it's not giving you. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's communication. Like I've been preaching communication for years. Like, yeah, it's so good to communicate. Communication. Eliminate that communication every year on podcasts, on YouTube. Like things were being told communicate, communicate. Like, we don't know how to speak English. No, unless they communicate, I'm talking about like, conflict resolution. Okay. So now like, when I'm speaking to my, because you're communicating with your partner. Comprehension. That's the word. Yeah. We speak into your partner and it's nice. Yes. It's comprehension. Say if I can comprehend what you're saying. Communicate me just to speak. Like I'm just speaking of our field. Comprehending is comes with the understanding again. Yeah. Okay, sorry. Sorry for disturbing. Yes. So I was saying like, conflict resolution, like when we're going through hardships. When this hardship is presented here, like the way I react is not the best way. The way my previous partner said right is not the best way. So for me, what I think holding me back is not being able to resolve my conflict. Do you know, because I feel attacked because I feel undermined. Sometimes I feel disrespected. And I don't know if it's a lack of communication with the other person or what, but those are the things that really hold me back. Because when those things happen, it builds resentment. I don't know, bro. Because every time there's, every time there's a problem now, you're like, this person doesn't respect me. I'm about to get disrespected. Now you anticipate disrespect. Now you anticipate a bad experience. Now your whole mood goes down, even before it's meant to be down, because you know the previous six times, four times out of six, like my night ended horribly. So I hold onto those emotions of the bad experiences due to bad conflict resolution. So one thing that I need to work on if ever, when I go into my relationship, is to do not do not ever think how like conflict better. Like conflict is based on the person, like the person you're dating. Because sometimes I take like the, I gotta be like with one girl, be like the very emotional approach, the very let's talk about our feelings. We're not sleeping until we figure out what's wrong. We won't sleep angry, get to midnight. We're still angry. When they are still angry, you know, then they didn't work. And then you go to the next person and try the same thing and it works effortlessly. So sometimes I feel like conflict is like a shoe, like buying a shoe at like sport scene. You put on a size three, it's going to hurt your toes, bro, because you're, you know, you can't get your points across, but there are people that understand your conflict styles. Yeah, you see, there's this compatibility levels within conflict. Yeah, cuz I know all the go ones and she was like, she was lovely to right resolve things. Yeah, bro. She was understanding. She was calm. She was smiling. She was understanding. She thought we threw it through a show. Yeah, I was like, this is nice. There you go next door. Hey, hey, hey, you're getting poisoned. You're compromised. You've had to wait guests like 10 times. I'm pretty changing something called narrative. You never make this guy, by the way. So real. So you're right. It's all right, bro. Yeah, so I think that we place a lot of like, accountability and responsibility and be like, oh, no, I need to educate myself about communication and comprehension. When in reality, your emotion intelligence is probably on a 88%. And you've been dealing with 10% to your whole life, 10%, 10%, 10%. And then you finally meet that 78 and you're like, oh, wow, like actually wasn't like wrong in my conflict style. It's about how a person actually digests, how I communicate. That's actually important. OK, OK, I've got a game for you now. You can answer yes or no, or you can go into discussion and reflection, based on the reasons that you answer these things. OK. So have you ever stayed in a toxic relationship due to fear of being alone? Yes. Oh, is that the way I do? Hello? How does the game work again? True. True. So now you can reflect on that answer. Not that people listening back home, not subscribing after we expose ourselves like this. But guys, please subscribe watching this on YouTube. If you're listening to this on any streaming platform, please give us five stars. Yo, please, I mean, what are these guys going to know? I'm telling my Android is at some point, but anyways, yeah, yeah. Yes. OK, so why? OK, so I know the answer here is because you fear of being alone. Yeah. That's why I'm confused. You can't ask a question and then add a comma after the person answers. OK, let me ask you those questions. So you were in a toxic relationship. Yeah. And you state because you prefer having companionship versus being alone. How to work out for you? No, it's not a bad work. It's not a part. It's not a part of companionship. It's not a part of our companionship. It's about, no, because you were scared of being alone. It's not about us just being alone. Oh, yes, it is. It is about being alone. Yes. But it was an answer again. I want to answer the question again, then from the list more. OK, OK, let's go. So now you're dodging. But now you have you ever stayed in a toxic relationship due to fear of being alone? Yes. OK. Yeah. So now, my next question is, why did you stay? Like, how did that go? Why did you stay? Obviously, because you still... OK, so my question is, you can answer the way I want it or the way you want it. OK, answer the way you want it. It ain't you. So, yeah, dude, I think they get to a point in a relationship with you. You've been with someone for so long. They start becoming also your best friend. Like, picking up each other's mannerisms. Yeah. You're laughing a bit more. You're understanding each other's humor a bit more. And at some point in that relationship, the romantic side had completely fizzled out, I couldn't say, right? I don't think we're being romantic to each other anymore. But that was still my best friend. And the thought of being alone and navigating this world alone without my best friend is what made me stay in the relationship. Even though the romantic side became toxic in nature, yeah. And yourself? Yes or no? Have I ever stayed in a social relationship due to fear of being alone? No. Yeah, I don't think you ever have, no. I have. No. I've earned one. If I see a relationship like looking toxic, feeling toxic, I'm going to discuss it. And it's going to be the matter of discussion for months and so... Sometimes I don't want you to run your message and look up. You know? The whole tone cover your nose. You just look up. You're going to come time, sometimes it goes over your face. That's what being in a toxic relationship is like. You don't know when the breathing is going to stop, but you're still alive. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Do you often prioritize others' needs over your own? No. You? I mean, I disagree with the answer. No, if it's romantic, yeah, but in general, no. No, I believe, and I don't know if it's the place to discuss this. Yeah, you can go ahead. I believe that most of the time when we go out on the weekend and stuff, I'll be considerate of the others. Oh, yes. Yeah, and you might not necessarily want to be in those spaces. Do those things. I don't. But for the sake of cultivating a good friendship with the boys... Yeah, I'll be more generous than there is. I wasn't saying you're more generous. I'll be more generous. I was just saying that you'll show up and you'll contribute towards the experience because you want to be around your friends. Yeah. Tonight, you're not putting yourself first. I mean, is that also because that also benefits in those scenarios? That's why I didn't say no. No, it's like saying you're going to call the city tired. You're going to benefit. You're going to have fun, but you're tired. I guess I pictured it like a person saying to you like, "Yo, you have a thing at 1pm." Stop touching me, bro. I've never touched. Sorry. I don't like my thigh being tired. I always touch that, though, guys. I don't know why. But anyways, let's say you have a thing at 1pm, right? Yeah. And it's like your thing is like... I make it like easy. Like you just got to go watch your car. Yeah. But you have to watch your car in like three weeks. So you like, you really have been feeling this need that like, "This is the only time I'm free. I can't watch my car." On the other hand, boom. Hunter is moving into his new flight. It asks you to help him. Yeah. You know? Now, are you telling me if I choose Hunter over doing my car, I'm picking him over me. Type here. That's what you're saying, man. Yeah. That's what you're saying. You're not being a good friend. You're not being considerate of effort, of moving in. You're not being considerate. You can watch your car another time. No, no. That's why that thing is a bit... And it's unequal to me for me to be just saying like, "No, I don't pick myself." I feel like I do in account. Yeah. What about you? Yeah, I know. All the time. I wouldn't say that. My needs. Like, you pick your needs above others. No, I prioritize other people's needs. Oh, yes. Okay, yeah. Okay. Bro, I mean, and I hate them. In my squad, I'm the big brother in the squad. Yeah. So also, that's also like, it's a bit tiring because it's like, I'm older in age. Experience-wise, I've done a little bit more. So it's like, I have to brother you guys. You guys always try to make bad decisions. You guys, not all of us, like, I'd say out of 100% of the time, I'm making bad decisions, maybe 10% of the time. Yeah. Some of the guys are on 60. I'm not gonna name them. I'm not gonna name these criminals. But some of the guys, some of these hooligans are on 70 even, but I won't name them. But even me, I think they're also... You are 28. By the way, you have more reckless decisions than me. By the way, I want to make sure you understand that. But I miss all bits of perspective. Yeah. Okay, have you ever... Okay, I must skip this one. But you answered quickly. Have you ever held yourself back from pursuing a goal due to fear of failure? Yeah. We all have. That sounds like, ah, dude. I think it's a human nature. Yeah. Okay, so now we're going into segment number two, embracing complexity, learning how to hold multiple truths. So let's first define what multiple truths are. So it's the ability to acknowledge and accept different perspectives, ideas or values, even if they contradict one another. Right? So basically, the reason why I have this conversation here is because I want to know when you all have your conversation with friends and family and people, and you feel like somebody's incorrect, how do you navigate the situation, and how do you hold space for them to still feel heard and seen. Because we're having conversations pretty much every day with our friends and family. Yeah. And none of us really... Some of us, we don't agree a lot of the time. I think something that I learned very young is that not everyone needs to be correct. You can hold your truth in a space where someone says your truth is not true, and just let it be. Because as long as you know what your truth is, it's fine. I've been in so many spaces where I've argued with family members for hours, trying to tell them how I felt or how I perceive the scenario. And just being completely just shut down and being told my perspective is completely wrong. So I learned from a very young age. Sometimes it's okay to just let someone speak and back at you, like a dog, and then you just say, okay, good dog. Who are you calling a dog? But you get what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very wise for a person to be able to occupy a space and not occupy its opinion. You understand what I'm saying? Like you don't conform to its opinion. Also it's very difficult, but because sometimes there's truth, and then there's personal bias, and then there's, you know... Then there's perspective, there's perspective, and then there's like, we're all main characters in our own lives. I'm trying to think about how I navigated, bro. Like if I, I mean, okay, great example. As much as we had a conversation in the previous video, I was speaking about what women bring to the table when it comes to their femininity on the first date. And I felt like you weren't hearing me. I wasn't, yeah. And I think even the comment section, the audience wasn't hearing me, but some people did. But in that moment, I chose us. I literally said, you guys are young. So I threw a tantrum that people would say... But you chose your truth. But I chose my truth and I decided that you don't need to educate. I don't need to force your country on to you guys. Do you ever speak to your parents? And they say, they just look at you and they say, "Ha, you'll see." Those are the moments where you are saying your truth, and it's not their truth, but... I'm going to love her forever, pop, pop, 18. You know what I'm saying? I'm 18 years old. I'm going to love her forever. We're going to get married one day. Your parent can say, "Oh, that's very nice. It's a good information that you've just put into the space." Yeah. That's not our truth. I like how you spoke about like, there's the truth, there's perspective of what you say, there's bias. Yeah, there's like personal... A bias opinion, right? With like, yeah. I like that because, you know, you could be fighting with the love of your life. And you just... Stop doing that. And you tell her... Sorry for touching you, sorry. You're touching me. It's like when you grab myself. Sorry, sorry. Let me do this. No, it's okay. It's okay. It's okay. You could be talking to a girl. Like, you went to McDonald's at 10 p.m. Yeah. You bought a burger. At 10.30. Slow service that day. You'd be home at 11. Yeah. You didn't text your hand from that 10. 10.30. 11. She says to you, "Where were you during that hour?" You have no proof that you went to McDonald's. I said, "You ate there. You have no proof that you ate McDonald's." Maybe a bank account or whatever. Maybe you can show that. She can... A woman can... I know you're not going to believe me here. And the viewers at home won't believe me. But a woman can look you in the eyes and say, "From my perspective." And tell you where you went at 10. 10.30. And 11. From her perspective. And sometimes what I love about my perspective is, sometimes you don't even have to see me to have a perspective. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm just saying it's very, very, very tricky, not to actually distinguish between what is actually true in a moment. Oh, so that's also something that's very tough. And I think people definitely see it in like, building oneself. Like, what is the truth about you? Do you actually like this? Do you actually not like this? But I feel like... I agree with you 100% with everything. But also I feel like we need to like, as people understand that like even us, we can be wrong. We need to open up our hearts to the fact that our truths might be incorrect. So how do you leave space to be, to be corrected? Yeah. 'Cause I don't see, like I'm not in the squad. Many of you guys don't know how to be corrected. Yeah, definitely. And how to like hear and listen. And just take positive feedback. Also look at feedback as feedback. As feedback. Sometimes you guys look at feedback as criticism. Yeah. Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah. I think you know, you have to understand like, what's our total group following? Like what, we're like, what? 800,000 in terms of like following as a group. These people are superstars. My door nods. I look at Hanze. If I don't, Hanze, listen, I think you should, you know. Maybe be more honest about how you feel of this girl. I don't want to do that type shit. And you're looking at your younger brother and you're saying no, man. You need to be able to express yourself in your relationships. You know what I'm talking about? He sees it as me saying to him, you, you, you must be weak. Do you know what I'm saying? So again, it also goes back to what we said about the perspective thing. How do you identify, and maybe you can answer this question. Where does it really feedback, or just the person, really just trying to tear you down for, you know what I'm saying? Ah, dude. So I don't know. So I struggled to identify those things, but I know that like, with me, I speaking to a fan about this last week, with me, I take everything as positive feedback. And then if there's any negative, if there's any negative or disrespecting what you're saying to me, people outside of my social circle, I receive it as you projecting your own personal problems onto me. Like maybe I've triggered you, or you're going to do something, so you're going to obviously not be able to feedback to me properly. So I will automatically forgive that person's like smacksness, and then like I will receive what they're trying to say, and see if it's even of value. With my personal group, like if my personal group gives me feedback, it's feedback. Like I don't think anybody would say anything out of like hatred or love. It means that out of hatred, that means that I have to reevaluate their position in my life. Because I respect everyone in my circle's opinion, and that's why they're in my circle. But obviously, I can see some of some people, I can be like, some people just throw a petty comment on it. But that's I think that's normal. I mean, not even pay two comments. Some people's opinions, I can see, okay, cool. You're still getting there. It's not of substance. Because there's some people that are very young and not scared. Very, very young. So it's like, dude, you'll see. You'll see. But again, it goes back to what we said. At that time, that person, that's the truth. That's the truth. Yeah. So they're very, very interesting. I like this topic. Yeah, the next one is unpacking sex, sexuality, and vulnerability. Hypotatoe. Did you eat this in the agenda? I didn't remember eating this in the beginning. So vulnerability is the way it is to be open, honest, susceptible to emotional risk. Often eating to a deeper connection in personal growth. So what's your personal journey with sex? That often comes with teases applied. Often may need to. What did it say? That last part again. Oh, I'm so dead. Often may need to become the ability to acknowledge and accept different perspectives. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm doing this to be open, honest, and susceptible to emotional risk. Often needing to deeper connections in personal growth. Sometimes it needs to deeper blockings. May come with anxiety. Blockings, and God. Just respect. Vulnerability is such a, I associate with vulnerability with love so much. Because your willingness to be able to leave the room for someone to come and say, okay, cool, like, what's wrong? How does, sorry, I keep touching that, guys. I'm so used to touching people. When you grab my tie, but you don't see that. Let me grab your ankle or something. I'm sorry, but I'm such a touchy person. Sorry, guys. But yeah, I really associate vulnerability to love in a lot of ways. And it may be obviously linked to the fact of like, I feel like every time I've ever been vulnerable of like a girl, like, I was, I was deeply infactuated by it. I don't just open up to like anybody. Anybody like can be like, or any girl. I can open up to all my boys. My boys are my boys. But like, girls, it's very hard for me to be like listening. Today was like really tough. And like, I didn't know what's going to happen tomorrow. - Yeah. - Tie back. Cos some girls can look at you and say, yo, yeah, hey, man, I've finished. - Hey. - Hey. You know, hands have been saying, it's my man is in his failure. Then you see all his data, it's not this as he can complaining about finances, giving his desperate to be rich. We were locked in. I think that the day lock is a rental tattoo. - Is a rental, but-- - Rental lock. Yeah, but picking who to be vulnerable with is such a huge challenge in my life. I want, I need to tell you the story. - Yeah. - Once had the worst day, I like worst day at work, worst day at content, like I felt like, I think I came back home off the shooting content that you guys are like, two a.m. You know, I left this girl at my flat, went into the flat. I started crying, bro. Like, I just started crying. I was like, dude, I just feel so weak. I feel as if I don't have my life together. I want this and this and this. You know, I want to start business as I want to do. You don't get to get to these moments like, oh, it's not enough. It's like, it's not enough. And then I started crying, and she just looked at me, bro. Like, I keep, she just like cry. - Yeah. - She just looked, she just like. - Ooh, I can so hate too. She just looked at me. Didn't touch me. - Yeah. - Didn't say you were okay. - I think she even left the room waiting for me to just don't cry and come back. And then when she came back, she was like, oh, you're done, like you're good. - Oh. - I think I had to, I think I even had to call my sister, 'cause I couldn't stop crying, bro. Call my sister, I'm like, everything's going to be okay. She was worried. I'm not acting like she wasn't worried at all. - Yeah. - She was worried, she just didn't know. - Let's see, dude. - What the effect you were just being? - You know what I'm saying? That for me was with no moment I learned. I was like, you're being vulnerable. - It's dangerous. - It's dangerous, bro. And it also depends on which tribe. If you're dating a Zulu woman, you should not be vulnerable at all. So I know when you need to be as vulnerable as possible. - Yeah. - You know what I'm saying? But again, it's funny. - Yeah. - Now, even with me with vulnerability, I struggle to be vulnerable with women now as well. Like, I'll be talking to a girl. She'll be like, what's wrong? I'm like, mm-hmm. I'll be like, sometimes I'll be working, talking to someone, and then I'll be like, fuck. And she'll be like, what's wrong? I'm like, nah, that's cool. - Yeah. - 'Cause you feel like, if I say this problem, why it won't be fixed, it won't be how. This person doesn't have the skills or anything to help me with the problems I have, for example. And sometimes that's okay. - Yeah. - So no, I don't. And then they'll be like, my friends will be like, you don't open up. I'm like, I know. - Yeah. - It's intentional. - Might as well not. - Yeah. Please respect that. - But again, you have to understand this. Also, guys, we're speaking freely here. But this also comes from past hurt. And like, for example, I just gave the story time, which led to me, me not being as vulnerable for men. But these things are, as Tatu says, like... - You can go ahead. - What, as Tatu says? - I Tatu says, like, the best skill to learn is to unlearn. - I was about to say, because like, we men are the worst at this, that we go through experiences. Let's say we showcase vulnerability, then we're shamed for it. We'll never be vulnerable again. - Ever. - Do you got what I'm saying? - Ever. - I mean, we see with a lot of our friends. Like, I hate to say their names. - Very, very hard, guys. - Like, with them, bro, personally, they were in relationships. They didn't go wild. They were hurt. They won't ever be in a relationship anytime soon. - Yeah. - So we keep building up these walls as men. Even me, like, I was once in a very vulnerable relationship. And I was taken, not taken advantage of, man, but like, I was like, my vulnerability was viewed as weakness with this person. Right, we were never dating, though. Now my vulnerability is very much a war. So now, isn't this preventing us from finding true love, true friendship, true moments, because we have all these walls up? Or is it protecting us from the outside world? - Tatu, if you're driving to Devon from Johannesburg, and 10 minutes in Popatire, you're going back home, you're going to go keep going. Some people choose to fix that, the insecurities that they hold, the things that block them from the progression of their journey in love. - Ah, let's look at a Popatire and say, you know what? Let me just keep driving with it. I'll find, like, a large on the way. - No, but some people, like, they get a Popatire. They fix the Popatire. No, do they learn, never driving the gravel. What happens if my wife is on the gravel? - No, Tatu, you know what I'm saying? - You have to understand what I'm trying to say is that it's all about what is your choice with your... I think people are so bad at taking accountability for the harm of previous partners that's causing them. So, like, let's say now you're saying you're vulnerable, what about as a wall for you? - That's up to you now. If I'm dating you, that's your responsibility to take care of that. I should not be, like, telling you, "Oh, no, yes, you can be vulnerable. What do you see now?" - I can't ask space, but it's your responsibility to educate yourself. - 100%, and, like, I agree. - Yeah, boy. - I agree, but, like, now let me make it this about, like, talking stages even, right, right? - That's the thing of talking stages, though. - So, I'm saying, like, a talking stage is what leads you towards getting into a relationship. - Yeah. - So, now, if I've got trauma when it comes to being vulnerable, when it comes to expressing myself, I would never express myself and be vulnerable to a talking stage, and wait for the talking stage to become my girlfriend. But now me preventing the vulnerability might prevent the talking stage from viewing me as the boyfriend, or me even viewing him as my girlfriend, because I feel like there's no emotional connection, and it's me cutting the wire to enable the emotional connection. So now, it's like, as Jen's putting up all these boundaries, how do we add little holes in the boundaries, so we can at least peek through and see-- - Oh, no, he's intelligent. - He's so intelligent, just like, "Dad, you've got love languages!" I get what you're saying. And maybe it's a matter of men need to start practicing how to heal. - No, man, I definitely think, you know, with the right companion, the right partner, they will be able to-- because, gimme mine, that's the whole point of eating and getting apart. They push you to become a better version of yourself. That's the part people forget all the time. Your partner should be able to identify your weak points, express them to you in the most, like, you know, the way that you will receive it the best. Obviously, over time, just why the talking stage takes so long, guys. Kinda dates on one after two months. - I don't get people that-- - One year in three years. - You understand that? - Weeds, man, three months. - I'm saying most people till, like, yeah, no, after the third day, you guys are desperate for love. - Yeah. - Do you know who you're dating? - You don't, that means you don't know-- - You understand the perspective. - You don't know, no, not even that. You don't know the possibility of love you could have. You just settle for it, ever comes and has minimum requirements. - Oh, you don't value what the title call for no boyfriend is. - Yes, it's for you and so little. - It means nothing to you. - It means so little. - When I'm with the goal, like, "Bro, we're gonna talk for a while, Papa." - Yeah. - I'm about four or five months. - Oh, hello, how about hi? - No, my name, good morning, good night. Hello, hello, hi. - Good morning. - Good night. - What do you wanna talk about? - Yeah. - You, honestly. - You and your duck-- - Yes. - I wanna see you and you and your friend. - Welcome to the first exam, meeting my friend, let's go. - Yeah. - You know? - She gets there, her son's laughing, he's-- (laughs) - I can say, "Fire!" - Out! (laughs) Don't make another men smile in front of me. (laughs) - Oh, you move. - But you get what I'm saying. - Yeah. - You know? - Okay, me, I'm wiling with the four or five months, yeah, but maybe, like, two months. - A certain amount of time. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And people say, "No, we'll see in the relationship. "I wanna break up with my girlfriend." - Yeah, so I wanna break up of someone I never invested in. - Yeah, it's not gonna say that. - I wanna say that, it's not waking. - Yeah. - But let's break up. - How about when you say let's break up, people can give opinions and stuff, if you're dating. If you're not dating, people, when you say let's break up, it's like, "Oh yeah, that was that." Like, we get to see other people now, again, everything. When you're dating, it's like, "What about--?" - Mm. - I don't know, but I like you said, very hard, but do you not believe that, to a certain extent, it's up to you to not only educate yourself, but also educate your partner how to love you? And I think that you can speak on those things and say, "Listen, I do struggle with AP&C." And I don't know what that's going to hold in this relationship, but that's something that's gonna constantly come up. I always tell people that I really struggle with focus. Like, I'm very, like, if I'm doing something, I have hyper-focus on whatever I'm doing. - Yeah. - So if I'm, like, on my phone, and someone's telling me a story, I won't hear the story. I will communicate that early in the relationship, so some person can say, "Hey, level, talk to me." You know what I mean? Those are the things that you should be able to say out loud in a relationship. - Yeah, that's true, that's true. You need to-- you need to-- you need to do that. - Yeah, you need to do that. - Definitely. Okay, let's go to the last one. So overcoming the fear of success, embracing our full potential. So the fear of success is the anxiety or apprehension that comes with achieving one's goals. Often due to fear of change, responsibility, or loss of identity. - Oh, wow. So most of us are scared of success because it comes with change, you know, new responsibility, or loss of identity. I've never thought about it like-- - I've never thought about it. - You do a pain. - And subconsciously, that's what happens. - Yeah. - You're scared of, like, a new lifestyle. You're scared of new responsibility. You're scared of, you know. Yeah, it's so good, and I've never thought-- - Well, why would you-- - That's actually very, like, that's a ball. 'Cause, like, you're, like, lookie for you to become the successful image of yourself. You need to-- - The loose nexus, too. - You need to let this version of yourself. - Go. - Like, go. That's actually very deep. Maybe that's why it's so hard to do the actions. - Yeah, change management. - Oh. 'Cause what you're gonna do, like, hey, boy, that's another thing, like, I like what it's said, like, after you've obtained your goals, you feel like you've obtained a new identity. You're no longer the person, you are, whatever, whatever. - You are, yeah. - There's so many points in one's life where you will hit a milestone, and your friends and family and stuff. It might not necessarily be, like, those present happiness, but will feel happiness for you, you know? You're starting a new job. I don't want to talk about it. - Oh, you put it in the couch. You put it in the couch. Oh. - It's nice, you know. - It's about well. You know, small comments like that, you're like, "Hi, boy, like, huh." I'm fine. I thought that you-- You perceive this thing to be a milestone for me. But a lot of people won't perceive it like that. That doesn't make sense. - It does. - So that's another thing that, like, I struggle with, like, when, you know, we always speak about, "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, get rich, quick, get rich, quick, with the gang, with the boys, we're going to be rich, we're going to have pushes." All of us, matching pushes, all those things. But it's like, in reality, maybe one of us will make it. Like, if we're being statistic-wise, probably busy-wise, you know? The rest won't be, you know, bad or if I believe we'll all make it together. But in reality, that's not what happens. And we see-- I said this in the previous podcast where we see it especially with, like, degrees. Everyone's studying the area. In university, we're all equal. Now, we're looking at it. The education key is eating the same food as us. Matter when we graduate, the tax bracket shift! I'm at La Palada, buddy. You understand what I'm saying? And-- But we like this. But we like this. Humans love this belief of equality. Everyone must be equal. We're going to make it. Hey, hey, hey, hey. How is it possible we're going to make it? It's not possible. There's certain-- There's certain few of us that have the energy, that have the drive to make it. So it's some few of us on Earth that don't. And that's OK. That's also OK. There's other ways of making it in your own life. You know what I'm saying? You could have a beautiful family. Those are the things that can-- Yeah, you can raise amazing kids. People are killing their values. Yes, but I-- Take care of the community. I sometimes worry about that rule of success because we don't speak about it. But every time I've reached another goal or reached another milestone, I've lost a lot of friends. I've lost a lot of love. Things have changed, you know? I've always seen that. Like, because he might have thought, I've been a student. I've seen-- Of students? Of students? Of students? I've seen that. I've still-- I've still not seen that. You know, I've worked with students. I've done the self-implementing. I've done the traveling. I've done the-- Every time it's a new woman comes around and then a new friendship. But then-- [LAUGHS] Like, I think about the day that just events becomes like a-- There's one event in two people, [SPEAKING SPANISH] How many times are we going to do-- [SPEAKING SPANISH] I'm still making 1,000 different decisions. [SPEAKING SPANISH] Like, that imbalance is purely natural. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But yeah, that's the one thing I worry about. Yeah, but I agree. Yeah, that's so-- And that's so real. But I hope-- We pray. And our friendship group, the fact that we all have that-- I want to see one of the entrepreneurs probably don't. But we all have that spirit of success. That we can all branch out in our different ways, or even in the same ways, and like, you know, grow together. Because it won't be nice if-- Meng Meng's left behind. Well, yeah. Or let's say you guys become multi-billionaires, and I'm left there as a multi-millionaire. It's not going to be nice. It's still sweet, but it's not as sweet. Yeah, I want it to be very sweet. Yeah, it's not as sweet. It's not private jet-sweet, man. It's still sweet. You guys are discussing with PJs. Yeah. We're not seeing first class. Yeah, you're saying, let's split a plate. Let's split a plate. Let's split a PJs. Hey, we're not going to split Reki Wednesday. [LAUGHTER] But that shows the importance of, like, moving together when it comes to, like, collaboration. Because I could never be who I am if I never really worked with, OK, we're sorry. We see one band. I would never have, like, even pushed my book. My e-book wasn't for, like, reamiting me, like, looking at e-comm. You know what I'm saying? So it's, like, so important to make sure that your community allows for you to actually become successful, and your community inspires you. Because I know with us, for the longest time, even my previous friendship group, we would do this thing where we would always be together, but there'd be no inspiration to become successful. It's always a consumption. It's more to do more consumption. Consumption, consumption, consumption. To the minimum consumption. So it's very important to have those critical friends that inspire, hey, let me switch on. And then I'm saying, hey, let me not spend those two hours watching Netflix. Let me go learn something new. Yeah. I think it's very interesting. I mean, we badmaf are friends a lot, but if Tuck was in the club for three days in a row, someone was going to ask him, bro, what are you doing? Like, what's going on, you know? No one will leave him and say, can I come? Can I come? Can I come? Some will leave him there, some will come. They are not, they are not. They are not going to leave him, guys. They are not going to leave him. Say, let's go. Let's have fun. Just me and your body, best friends. You know? Those are the people that live that happen. But again, like we said, I like what Tuck said, let's distinguish between who are your progression friends and your consumption friends. And sometimes, fun fact, they can be a hybrid of both. They can consume sometimes. I'd say our friendship group were under 80% consumption, 20% inspiring. And I only say 20% because we work together. But when we work together, we're not doing anything new. We're just doing the bare minimum. Of course, as much as there's like, it's doing great. It's a huge thing, yeah, for us. But like, for our capacity and our capabilities, we'll be doing way more. I told Tuck that I think I literally hated my last week. I was like, dude, I know we're running short on the podcast, guys, we're going to finish, we're going to wrap this up. But I told Tuck that last week, I was like, dude, low key, next week, we need to push. We need to sprints for it. We need to do what about it? Because I just feel as if we all look at our times and we don't actually don't optimize it. A lot of us on the group going to gym is the pinpoint of the achievement of the day. Oh, chief, you never have a six pack, but you're going to be broke. Let's do it. Let's make money, papa. Let's make money, papa. You can never muck up and have money, but at six pack and hunger, it's a big difference. You're going to be with the great team, but you're going to be with the great team. Let's make money. You can gym later, you can gym in the playoffs. You want to come on, chief. But yeah, guys, sorry for watching this episode. This is being fun. Oh, a little bit unprepared today. That is on me. But in the conversation, it was nice. I think it was a great conversation. I enjoyed it. Yeah, it flowed slow today, but very slow, very real. 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