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Welcome to Drinking Broze, presented by GoSpent.com. Sit back, relax and grab a fucking drink. Yeah, welcome to Drinking Broze Kids. Tuesday's show, getting ready to fly out to see all your beautiful faces in Illinois. Got the deets for you here for Thursday night, tailgate, come on out, free booze, free tickets to the game, free merch, all of the things. We got the, hold up that hat, Anthony, you got the Illinois hat over there, boom, boom, got some Illinois hard AF hats for you there, some 16 ounces. Tailgate will be, it's a Grange Grove outside the stadium, spot 87, spot 87, we got it up on the map here, and then Bob texted me that photo, and I'll blast that out on Drinking Broze, sports and Illinois group and all that other stuff tomorrow. Can't fucking wait, dude. College football is back. Hard AF Seltzer will be served in all stadiums at University of Illinois for the next three years. Cheers. Let's go. Now, if you were listening to the show yesterday, we talked about our buddy over it. The messenger app over there, what the fuck was it? What's the name of that goddamn app, Pavel? I don't remember how, what is last. What's the app? What's the name of it? Telegram. That's it, I'm fucking blanking on it. I started drinking early. Pavel Derov. Yeah. You had an interesting point at the end of it where I said, "Hey, what do you think's going to happen to the rest of these tech CEOs?" And you were like, Zuckerberg should be in fucking prison. Yeah. Got off the show three hours later, he drops an apology late last night. It's super fucking bizarre to me. Bob, can you pull that up? Because I don't understand the timing of this right after this happens. Unless you think one of two things, either Trump is coming in and he's going to drop the hammer, or you're expecting other governments to come out against apps as well. And then hammer him. Bob, you want to read this here? Yeah, it's addressed to Jim Jordan, chairman of the judiciary. Chairman Jordan, I appreciate the committee's interest in content moderation on online platforms. As you are aware, meta has produced thousands of documents as part of your investigation and made a dozen employees available for transcribed interviews. Further to our cooperation with your investigation, I welcome the opportunity to share what I've taken away from this process. There's a lot of talk right now about how the U.S. government interacts with companies like meta and I want to be clear about our position. Our platforms are for everyone. We're about promoting speech and helping people connect in a safe and secure way. As a part of this, we regularly hear from governments around the world and others with various concerns around public discourse and public safety. In 2021, senior officials from the Biden administration, including the White House, repeatedly pressured our teams for months to censor certain COVID-19 content, including humor and satire and expressed a lot of frustration with our teams when we didn't agree. Ultimately, it was our decision whether or not to take content down and we own our decisions, including COVID-19 related changes we made to our enforcement in the wake of pressure. I believe the government pressure was wrong and I regret that we were not outspoken about it. I also think we made some choices that with the benefit of hindsight and new information we wouldn't make today. Like I said to our teams at the time, I feel strongly that we should not compromise our content standards due to pressure from any administration in either direction and we're ready to push back if something like this happens again. So, yeah, with that, 2021 was the year that we stopped getting any followers on Facebook and Instagram, which are both owned by Meta. It's been two and a half years. I think Drinking Bro's podcast on Facebook has been stuck on 89,000 since then and I believe our Instagram has been stuck on 112,000 since then. If you even tag our Instagram, it says, "Hey, are you sure you want to tag these people?" They've been known to post misinformation. It pops up on screen and every time you try to tag Drinking Bro's podcast on Instagram. If you're going to drop a letter like this to the world and include satire and comedy, which is what? Memes at the end of the day, right? Yeah. Pretty much these days. Just fucking memes. Memes and like short clips. Yeah. Then restore everybody's accounts that you fucking knock down or have dings on and everything else. Social media team that we've hired behind the scenes to do all of our shit for us and post clips and all that other fun stuff and they say, "Guys, you have 12 blocks on each one." I think Facebook has 14 on it for various content over the years. Unblock all the people then that you did this too because it was a fucking lot and it was mostly on the conservative side. Let's face it. And then to this point, if he's going in front of the committee then, what the fuck's he going to say? He testified once. He's already been on Rogan and said he was pressured. Now he's got this fucking letter. When is this actual committee hearing? Why would he drop this on a Monday night? It's very odd timing. Do we have a date on it yet? Yeah, I don't know what it is. Bob. With Jim Jordan. Because if it's addressed to Jim, then obviously there's something set there. Nothing anything ever happens with these. Look, if you watch the TikTok one, nothing fucking happens. If you watch the other one that Zuckerberg was a part of, nothing fucking happens. He also admitted to killing the Hunter Biden story. How is all of this not election interference? It is. And he should be arrested and thrown prison for it immediately. I agree. And his company should be, I mean it's a publicly traded company, right? So the SEC should get involved as well. They should levy enormous fines, probably put Facebook out of business frankly. Like you don't, it is one thing to defraud people. You can make restitution for that. You can pay them back for that, right? If you injure them, you can pay restitution for that. If you steal an election, and it leads to 20 million motherfuckers in our country that don't belong here, 40 year high inflation, and all these other fucking issues, like there's no way for Facebook as a company to repair any of this. They've done, they've done something to somebody, which is to say all of us, that is irreparable now, by their own hands or anybody else's, and he has to pay for that. I think you should be, I think the company should be liquidated and he should be fucking in prison for it. Is that why he put out this letter? I'm sure he's afraid. Yeah. He's a little bitch. Yeah. I mean, looking at it, the whole thing fucking sucks, dude, because the other part to this that nobody really thinks about is people's businesses depend on meta. They depend on Instagram. They depend on Facebook as much as we hate to say it. Delco and I were talking about this before the show, but the media companies, that Facebook has killed alone over the years, just because nobody wanted to pay a fee or you had to pay some crazy price to be a part of Facebook. Or because they convince you to pivot to video. Yeah, dude. And by the way, when you say media companies, a lot of people might immediately think like media, like CNN, Fox, no, I'm talking about like fucking Buzzfeed, like total frat move, like they are in a lot of fucking B fucking companies, like big, big media companies that it were like, but still like small businesses. You know what I mean? Like big footprint, but not big in terms of, uh, and they lied about all the numbers that were on Facebook, whether it was video, whether it's columns, and then just completely skated by without any really, any real repercussions. So this is why we hired you guys, by the way, obviously you were coming from TFM. I was a huge fan of TFM. What happened to TFM in the background, as far as the numbers were going with the video and all that shit, because remember that when they were really pushing video there for a few years video, and then also a lot of our numbers were it when you have a hundred percent of your audience engaged on Facebook, the numbers were through the roof. But then the audience you built up, right? You have millions of followers following you on Facebook. - They then pulled the rug from underneath you and only about three to 5% of your audience could see all the content you posted. - So that was a bigger thing for us 'cause we didn't, I was in charge of video, but we didn't like, there were some companies like Buzzfeed who made a hard, full pivot video. - Fox, Fox, Fox, Fox, Fox, Fox, Fox. - They were like, all video, fuck written content. We didn't do that. We had video 100%, but like we didn't do that, we still had a ton of written content. But it was like, a lot of times they would change the algorithm or re-prioritize without any word or anything like that. And so all of a sudden, like Dan said, stuff that was going out to 80% of your hundreds of thousands or millions of followers was now getting put out to 20% or 5%. And all of a sudden your traffic falls through the fucking floor and you have no way to predict it, no way to know, no way to rectify it. - And no number to tell advertisers. Like, hey guys, how many hits, like, views are you actually getting here? Because let's face it, advertising is the reason any of us are in business right now. And that's why most of these companies went away and they're gone and they're continuously shutting down. - And the numbers are always just changing. I mean, Apple's kind of being like gangsters right now with their numbers. - Yeah, they keep changing the way podcast listens or record, which has made a huge, for those who don't know, which has made a huge dent in advertising for a lot of people. - Well, they want everybody, I think Apple wants everybody to go behind a paywall. And I think they should face the same fate as Facebook. And then I think, whoever, I don't know who the president of Google is, he's got to be on this list as well. You and I were threatened to not have RFK Jr. on the show where they would delete our channel. And it was like, now he's beloved in running for president and taking a chance on the way on that. - I mean, these are different, these are different issues that are happening. You're talking about standard corporate manipulation versus election interference. Zuckerberg and whomever is the head of Google, 100% throw them in prison forever, right? With fucking Wolverines who have AIDS. The other part is something that needs to be adjudicated in court. I mean, I agree that it's an antitrust situation. What Apple wants long term is to control the eyeballs, which is what every media company should want, right? That's your goal to control as many eyeballs as possible because that's where the ad dollars are. But if you can create vertical integration where not only do you control the eyeballs, but you control the messaging as well, and you control the analytics, then you control everything. You control the marketing, essentially. You control every single dollar that goes in or out in any single way. It's called vertical integration is a polite way to say it. Antitrust is another way to say it. You create a monopoly. Not that Apple would be the only media company necessarily, but that they would be the only, they have a one stop shop for everything and you can't operate outside of their ecosystem. That is an effective monopoly. It's been adjudicated in federal court many, many times. And it's obvious what they're doing and the fact that the federal government hasn't stepped in and done anything yet or even mentioned it out loud, frankly, is kind of surprising. - It is, but I guess this is what this hearing will be about. And then he's gonna have to own up to this. The problem is, and that's why I wanted you to look it up, Bob, if it's after the election, who's to say they won't do the same thing again? To get him through this election and then all right, cool. - After this, we're all done. - Well, that's certainly gonna try. I think the Michigan Secretary of State put out a video this morning saying, if you, to local election workers, if you try to fucking do this, we're gonna come get ya. And then winks into the camera. It's like, all right, cool. We know you guys are trying to cheat. Everybody already knows. You don't have to fucking make a video about it. - Well, if you feel like you can get away with it, I guess. But Zuckerberg's one of the most powerful dudes on earth. This was a huge shock to me, to be honest with you. I was like, oh, shit. And then to admit, before a hearing, that yes, you colluded with the Biden administration specifically and the White House, and then caved to their demands, it's fucking outrageous to me. - Yeah, I mean, look, they're gonna, this is the game plan. And I don't think it's a right or left thing to be honest. I think they're right. The institutional right and left both hate Trump, and they wanna keep him out of office, and they'll do what they can to make that happen. That's what I think. I think Lindsey Graham would be happier with fucking Kamala Harris as president, frankly. - I do too, because then they could have endless wars. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then you'd be good there. But yeah, as far as this election coming up, how do you trust anything that Facebook's doing? How do you trust anything that Instagram's doing? - You can't, yes. You just gotta work, yeah. I mean, look, it's easy to sit around and whine and be like, oh, it's not gonna be fair. So you just gotta outwork them, right? You have to pressure local and state to purge voter rolls. It's happened in a couple of states. Virginia did it, West Virginia did it, Florida did it. Buh-buh-buh-buh. Michigan was forced to do it. Arizona was forced to do it by the Supreme Court. Texas just did it on its own as well. One million people were moved from the voter rolls who were no longer eligible. So that's good work. Purging voter rolls is good work. People call it voter suppression. It's like, no, look, man, it is your right as a citizen to vote provided you're doing all the stuff you're supposed to do. You're not a felon, whatever the fuck else, right? But it's still a responsibility as all rights are. You have to go do the things required of you. You gotta get an ID and you gotta go fucking register. And it's not very difficult to do either of those things. And then you gotta go to the polls and fucking vote. That's it. - And it's not a race thing. - No. - But people have IDs too. This is fucking stupid. - It has absolutely nothing to do with that. It's just like, do the bare minimum because here's what happens when we make these exceptions for, well, they can't fucking make it. They're too busy. They're injured or old or fucking crippled or whatever the fuck else. It's like, okay, so what happens then? Oh, some little lady in their neighborhood gets paid by the DNC to go collect all their ballots, tell them how to fill them out, get them to sign them and she takes them down to the fucking thing. That's not how fucking democracy works, right? One person, one vote, that's it. That's how it works to select leaders in a fucking constitutional republic. So that's not happening. So I'm sorry about your bad luck. I'm sorry that fucking wheelchair Jimmy can't wheel himself down to the fucking polling station. But you know what we can do is you can give him a right. If you care so much about his goddamn right to vote, put him in your fucking van and drive him to the fucking polling station. What do you gotta do? Like fuck off. All this is like fucking weaponizing empathy so they can cheat and elections. That's literally all it is. - Well, at least we heard the quiet part out loud from Zuckerberg today. I don't know what Google's gonna do. 'Cause I mean, all of our videos are suppressed and all that other shit. The other part about this Zuckerberg thing that stinks is the COVID crackdown, this misinformation over COVID and all this shit. You know how many people lost their fucking jobs? Now we didn't have that here. We didn't care if employees got vaccinated or didn't get vaccinated. It wasn't a part of working here. We told everybody, hey dude, you're welcome to do whatever the fuck you want or not work. If you're afraid to, I understand man, go home and it doesn't matter and then we'll shoot the shows. And this was when we were in Wilmington at that point coming out here and then it shifted over here and we said the same thing to our employees here. But then all the people who lost their jobs because they didn't and what they were posting and all that other shit if somebody saw it and then everybody was against you. Like it was a rough fucking two and a half years and I think everybody's waking up from it right now saying, oh shit, people lost their jobs. They lost their businesses and everything else. How many of those businesses were through meta and what's the responsibility for that and are they just gonna lobby a fine? 'Cause that's what usually happens in this bullshit. I don't think he'll ever go to fucking jail but the lobby's some huge fine, he'll write a check the same way that Google did a few weeks back and then they'll be done with it and we'll move on. - Well, I mean, yeah, but that's like, do you remember the first year after that whole Astros thing went down? And majorly-- - Were the trash cans? - Yeah, and majorly baseball had to, that every umpire would warn the teams before the game even started not to hit Astros players. And even a couple of guys who were on other teams not on the Astros anymore, right? They were warned, don't fucking hit 'em. Oh, we're gonna toss you immediately. First time you do it. This is what happens when you don't let things, when you don't actually deal with problems. - To be fair, too okay. - When you don't wait, when you don't actually fucking penalize people for what they're doing, then people will take that into their own hands at some point, right? - Mm-hmm. - That's how it works. And yeah, maybe fucking Zuck gets off of this, maybe there's no, maybe there's a huge fine, but no fucking jail time. Somebody who's fucking entire life collapsed because of that piece of shit and because of governors around the country and shit, they're gonna get violent at some point. That's how it works, right? - Oh yeah, yeah. - That's just how it works. And it's bad for the country to do that. If you fuck up somebody else's life, you gotta pay restitution for it. You have to make them whole again. And if you don't, then you have to be taken down. That's just the way it is. - Yeah, what were you gonna say, Mom? - Joe Kelly famously still did. - Yeah, he just didn't. - Yeah, he didn't, he hit him, it was awesome. - Joe Kelly doesn't, dude, if Joe Kelly's mom was up and she just took him deep, the bat before he, she's getting drilled. - He'd fucking pager, dude. He'd pager. - Well, not pager, but. - Wow, maybe. - Bean. - Bean, yeah, bean impact, wow, bean bag, who knows? Bean bag and then pager, who knows? Who knows? But the funny thing too is if you type in censorship by Google, there's actually a Wikipedia page about it, it says Google and it's subsidiary companies such as YouTube have removed or admitted information from its services in order to comply with company policies, legal demands and government censorship laws. What are we censoring and why? And this will lead me to the next thing. Mark Cuban posted a thing to Elon Musk on Twitter the other day saying, hey, why won't you release your algorithm behind how Twitter works? Do you think all media companies, social media companies should do that? Why? I feel like with Twitter as much as we want to say, you know, hail Elon and all that other shit, I'm still seeing people in my feed right now that I do not follow who I fucking hate that show up in my goddamn feed. I would like to know it. I would like to know why I'm rage-hating the second I wake up and I open it up to look at news for the shows. Yeah, I mean, I don't know about all that. It's a private company, they can do what the fuck they want, I guess, but I don't have any delusions about Elon Musk being a good dude. He's fucking actively suppressing people and fucking India and Turkey and Russia and China and a couple other places. Well, not Russia anymore, but China. It's like he's been doing this the whole time. For sure. So, would there ever be a law put in place where they force all these companies just to open it up and not have an algorithm? No, that's retarded. I mean, it's a private company. Well, Twitter is now, but they were a publicly traded company. Met as a publicly traded company. You're still-- Google's public. As a board member, decision maker, or an executive or a board member of a publicly traded company, you have to certainly follow the law, but your first responsibility is to your shareholders. By law, you have a legal fiduciary responsibility to your shareholders, which is to say if you make-- and there have been threats of some lawsuits surrounding this about COVID policy and censorship and some of the others, like, hey, you're hurting our business by doing this, right? If it can be, I mean, technically speaking, if it can be demonstrated that these publicly traded companies like Medo or fucking ABC, which is Google's parent company, are doing stuff that's fucking costing them money because they're losing subscribers or something like that, then they could be fined and fired. Like, you could be removed by the SEC from your company for doing shit like that. I don't think it'll ever get to that, frankly. I mean, it's just like, the SEC is a joke and our entire federal government's a joke. They're all sucking this dude's dick 'cause he's got money. And to be honest, he's doing like Zuckerberg, especially he's trying to whitewash himself now, trying to hang out with, like, libertarian jiu-jitsu people and shit like that. And the fact that people are actually doing it and hanging out with him, what a fucking piece of shit you must be. After all this motherfucker is done to suppress free speech and steal elections in this country, to go hang out with him 'cause he's rich. Like, it's some kind of cool thing to do. You're a fucking cunt. - Dude, my whole thing with this, I was telling Ross us before the first show of the day, is what are they saying, Silicon Valley? Don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness. - Yeah, and I think this will be a fine of a billion dollars somewhere in that neighborhood and then everybody will forget about it and that's it. Because the left wins in this. Is that, you got the Cuban tweet pulled up there? - I couldn't find it. Was it a reply? - Yeah. - Okay, okay, okay. - You know, it's fine. Like, I read it pretty much verbatim there, but he's asking to open up the algorithm to see what it is. And, you know, part of me, I don't really understand why there is an algorithm to all this shit, I guess, like-- - What do you mean? - If it was true free speech across the board, wouldn't we just be able to see it, everything, people can determine what they want to follow, like all that other shit? - I mean, you would be, you would be, so we've gone from in the late 19th century, early 20th century, six-person family sitting around one radio listening to the weekly broadcast once a week. - Right. - To-- - Or some wells. - Yeah, to three television stations, which when the president was on, it's all three, right? To cable television, upwards of a thousand channels at one point, I think, I don't know how many there are now, but quite a few, to streaming and social media, which is constant, endless content. There's 70,000 hours of shit uploaded to YouTube every day. - Yep. - Every day, 70,000 hours. So there has to be some mechanism to deliver to people what they want. So social media companies, I don't think they set out to do this in any kind of nefarious way. They were like, okay, well, how can we figure out what people actually want to watch? How do you do that? And the answer was, it started with demographic and biographic information. Your age, your race, where you came from, what religion you are, just all these things, right? If you like hunting and shit like that, came next. We call it psychographic data. What kind of stuff do you respond to? Like dogs, for example, 65% more likely to make a sale if your ad has a dog in it. That's a fact that we have. It's just one of many, many facts. - Sure. - 2018, we had about 370 unique identifiers for each individual person in America, their digital footprint, right? Name from the name where they grew up, their close associations, what sports teams they like, what music they like, movies. Now it's somewhere in the fucking thousands, right? - And who provided them? - It's just an engine that collects all that information, right? And many, many different companies have it. All the personal information that Facebook sold over the years, that's where it came from. Not just them though, everybody was doing it. - Yeah. - So they build this algorithm that's meant to, it's like the Plinko board and fucking Price is Right. You know what I mean? You're just bouncing around for one thing to the next and you're multivariate testing, and these are yes's, these are no's and it collects data over time. I'm telling you, these algorithms have become so sophisticated, target got sued for this. So because of, there was this 14 year old girl, or 15 year old girl somewhere. I can't remember exactly where it was, but she kept getting served ads for prenatal vitamins or some shit like that. I can't remember exactly what it was, but her dad saw it and was like, what the fuck? Why are you even getting served these ads? And it turns out she was pregnant, but there's no search history on it. They just for some, from all the collection of data that happened, they knew that she was a high-risk pregnancy at 15 years old. This is a child with fucking, with probably Snapchat at the time, this is like 10 years ago, Snapchat, Instagram, Facebook, right? It wasn't, again, it didn't start in an nefarious way. It's like there's so much information, we have to distill this down, not just for advertising, but just so people fucking can find what they're looking for. - What's illegal about knowing what a hoe looks like? - Yeah, well, she's 14, 15. - Yeah, that's a rough part. - There's nothing illegal about it, by the way, there's nothing illegal about it at all, actually. - It's incredible. - Yeah, it is, it's like the predictive capabilities of it now have, like people talk about AI and then a general intelligence, right? Those are two different things. AI, the way we think about it, is basically just ask Jeeves, to be honest, right? Like there's a repository of data, but it's still just a query machine, a very advanced one, but a query machine. A generalized intelligence is something that is because of its ability to, and this is what the scientific method is, observation prediction test, right? That's what it is, and you make another observation. You see how the test went. A general intelligence is where it becomes indistinguishable from a thinking human being, the Turing test, whatever you wanna call it, and we are there right now when it comes to these algorithms. So, you know, who do you wanna be in life right now? Are we gonna smash all the computers with sledgehammers and run back into the forest? Are we gonna find a way to deal with this? At making them illegal or even public, I don't know, like, if we made it public, how would that affect your life? So for me-- 'Cause you're not gonna be able to understand anything that's going on there. Well, for me personally, I would be able to turn it over to somebody who is. We would obviously hire that person. Sure, yeah, and then Facebook would fucking pay that person to not let you do what you want. Correct. So I think a better solution would be to have some kind of manual editing of your own algorithm, right? In the same way, like, we use this company called Red Circle to post all of our audio shows. Podcasting. Yeah, and they do dynamic ad insertion inside it. We just put, like, Delco puts the points in and they just throw ads in there, right? On the back end of it, there's a massive checklist of different kinds of categories and themes and specific products sometimes, and you can check whether you like those or don't. Like, I don't, we turned off-- Politics. Political ads and medical ads entirely, 'cause we don't want any of that bullshit. YouTube will not allow us to do that. YouTube won't let us, but fucking this one will. Something like that on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube would be perfect. That would be the best way to handle this, in my opinion. On Twitter, you can do certain things. Like, you can mute words. Yeah, that's true. So if you don't want to hear about Biden or Trump, you can mute words. Yeah, yeah. That's interesting, I didn't know. Yeah, Twitter is the only one even trying to fix the problem right now, but that's how you do it. I think is... I think the only way to do it. I don't know if muting words is the perfect way to do it, necessarily, but it's better than what anybody else is doing, but yeah, having some kind of category-based check list or something like that, like, I don't want to see like fucking TikTok dances of 20-year-olds in a fucking, what do you call it, in sororities. I don't care about that shit, dude. If I want to watch porn, I'm going to go watch hardcore porn. People getting shit put inside them. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't care about this fluff nonsense. So I don't want to see that. Can I turn that off? Can I turn that off? Because if there's one in my feed, this is how the algorithm works on Instagram. If there's one in my feed, for some reason or another, and I'm scrolling through it, and I just put my phone down and don't even look, but I stay on that fucking, even if it's only a third right there, for more than three seconds, I think. I think it's three to five seconds. 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Are you not kissed? - I raised. - Yeah, you're staying oiled up from moisture. - Yeah, you're lubricated for life. - Guys being dudes. - Yeah, you don't kiss your homies a good night. - Bro's being pros too. - No. - You know, what's a pet, bro, with tongue? - I don't want to hear that shit. - Well, a little bit of tongue. But the other part of this is the way that social media also affects the actual media. And we're talking about the mainstream media here. Bob, I sent a video to you maybe six or seven hours ago on Twitter, if you can look in your inbox here. - James Harris. - No, the bottom one for with us, Scarborough. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Play this out loud because this is what we were told after seeing all the shit pushed off of social media by the actual media too. So, I mean, it's not just Facebook. It carried over into everything in life. - Yeah. - Go ahead and play this clip. - And talk about Facebook having problems and Twitter having problems with a story that even the New York Post knew was a lie. They published a series of lies, penned them by Rudy Giuliani who admitted that nobody else would take it, but Rupert Murdoch's New York Post, because they might look into it and tell the truth. Here we are in 2020. This is what it's come down to, America. Giuliani is feeding Russian misinformation to Donald Trump and really feeding Russian disinformation to the New York Post. They know it's a lie. - Yeah, well, the New York Post. - That's where we are in 2020. - This is regarding 100 bucks. - Yeah. - Just to let you know. - We're by the way, 100% on all that. - By the way. - Well, listen to this. - Russian hoax. Come on. - Join us now. - History will expose you all as fools and useful idiots for the Russians. It's for four years now. For four years now, there has been a line from Russian agents into the campaign. It's unbelievable how stupid you think Americans are, how stupid you think Americans are. For you can just say, "Russian hoax, seriously?" The idiocy. The sheer idiocy. You are revealed right now, but you will be revealed throughout history for basically running cover for Russians. - And you've got this computer repair shop owner in Delaware who is a staunch Trump supporter and who petals in conspiracy theories and whose shop is thousands of miles away from where Hunter Biden lives. So you've got a lot of questions here. - This government employee. - This whole thing smells bad, Joe. - He lives right down the road, by the way. - I don't think there's a lot of credence. That's why the FBI is questioning not the Bidens, but Rudy Giuliani. And I think the message here, the lesson here is that if you're going to plan an October surprise, you may want to choose a planner who is not parading around the world with a known Russian secret agent for the last year. Maybe choose a planner that has better peer reviews next time. - So this looks like Russian intelligence. This walks like Russian intelligence. This sounds like Russian intelligence. Every intelligence professional I've been talking to, because says this is a Russian intelligence disinformation campaign. Rudy Giuliani was not fed passively Russian disinformation. - I know. - He ordered off the menu. - So do they look into how two weeks to an ambulance before an election, someone decided to use a tabloid to, in all probability, know that they were smearing a major candidate against a president that this tabloid was supporting and whether or not that would fall under criminal investigation, leaving the same kind of criminal charge. - So in this letter that Zuckerberg sensed, and this is regarding Hunter Biden's laptop, he admits that he censored the Hunter Biden laptop as well. If I'm Giuliani, I sue all these motherfuckers who went on the news and said this shit. In particular, Joe Scarborough, who lead off to top of this, and say, "Hey dude, what the fuck were you doing?" 'Cause now you have the evidence. - Zuckerberg himself said that they were censored by the White House. - It's a bigger problem than just that because it used to be that you wouldn't necessarily have to sue them. Now you might, but there would be redress to this issue regardless of a civil lawsuit, because I mean, think of Tom Brokaw. One of the probably five most famous news people of all time in America, not Tom Brokaw, I'm sorry, Dan Rather, one of the most famous of all time, right? - Not just famous, but well liked as well, for the most part. He didn't do his homework on a story about George W. Bush, and it ended his career. I mean, that's like fucking, I don't even know what to compare that to. That would be like fucking Aaron Judge getting kicked out of baseball right now. - Also, according to Zuckerberg's letter, by the way, the government didn't order him to do anything with that New York Post story. - Pressure to, pressure is the word. They sent him, the FBI warned him about Russian disinformation. He doesn't use the word pressure in the letter. He only says FBI warned, which is not to me, I'm not trying to cover it for the Biden administration, but I'm trying to say like, you give Zuckerberg more shit, 'cause I think he's trying to take it off. - He's certainly trying to, obviously. Yeah, I mean, but we've also seen the Twitter files and the DHS, FBI, we're both sending orders, not requests. I mean, it technically was requests, but they were funding the program, the quote unquote disinformation program, they're spending like $2 million a month on it. But the bigger problem is that there is no accountability in this stuff anymore, and that people on the left are perfectly happy, believing it, whether it's true or not. That is an unsolvable problem. It's like, map this on to the war on drugs. This idea that we were gonna go interdict the drug supply chain in South and Central America. It didn't work. All it did was create more poverty down there, and now they're fucking heading north, breaking into our country. That's all it did. If you don't interrupt the demand, the supply will continue, whether it's fucking legal or not. Doesn't matter, right? That'll always happen. And right now, the demand for leftist nonsense is super high, and there's no fucking solution for that. You can't have a conversation with folks like that. People that think that there's still Russian hoax smoke, people that think that the Hunter Biden laptop was fake, people that believe the phrase, cheap fakes, people who don't think that Biden was ushered out when we have all this evidence, like it's people who literally cannot, you can have this conversation. I have it all the time, all the time with fucking smart people too. Tell me what felonies Trump got convicted of, and they'll tell me false fine business records. No, those are misdemeanors. How'd they become felonies? No answer. They have no idea, but they're perfectly happy calling him a convicted felon. 34 counts, convicted felon. Because there's people learn from what they see at the top, and I don't mean just politicians or the presidency. When the media is the apparatus responsible for informing the public, and they can miss and disinform intentionally so, knowing they're wrong, do it anyways and face no consequences for it, not legal consequences, but from their own fucking institution. CNN 20 years ago would have fired all of these people. If Lemon and fucking Cuomo had been going on and on about some fake ass story like that, for two years and then all of a sudden it's like, oh shit, everything you said was wrong, they would immediately get fired. Now they did, not because of that, it was because of ratings. They would have kept them all, Erin Burnett's still in that network, and she lied just as much as they did. It's a ratings thing. There's no accountability for that anymore, and frankly, I don't know how you solve that part of the problem. If people are willfully ignorant, then you have to let the car crash. That's the only way to solve that. But how does MSNBC go on air today, knowing what we know now, looking back at these past videos, and look into camera and ask their audience to believe in what they say on a daily basis? It's the noble lie, right? Like you don't tell somebody they're fat. That's where it begins, because that's rude, it's socially unacceptable, and you continue the noble lie until it turns inward on yourself. Inward, inward. - Yeah. - Anyways, sorry I got sidetracked. - That's fine, yeah, I got inward too. - I was like, is there somebody here? - Yeah, I got excited when I said inward. It turns inward on yourself, and you think to yourself, like people have, it's cognitive dissonance. People are like, you know what, Trump is so evil, that it doesn't really, like this little white lie I'm telling doesn't, as long as it gets him out of office, it doesn't matter, except for it fucking does matter. It does matter that he never colluded with Russia. It matters that 100 Biden was selling state secrets and access to his father, and that he was a fucking crackhead. The shit matters, right? So, you know, and until people start treating it like it matters effectively, it won't. It won't matter, it doesn't matter. The truth doesn't matter anymore. So we're getting the best version of the truth that they can create, which is not very good. - But speaking of the truth they can create, we have breaking news right now. Trump has once again been indicted again, an election subversion case brought by Jack Smith. Holy shit, dude. We're doing this on August 27th. We got an election here in 68 days. All right, the 36 page indictment secured Tuesday by special counsel is an attempt to recalibrate the case after the Supreme Court's immunity decision of federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reindited. Donald Trump on four felony charges related to his effort to subvert the 2020 presidential election. The 36 page indictment secured Tuesday by a special counsel. Jack Smith is an attempt by prosecutors to recalibrate the case against Trump. In light of the Supreme Court's ruling last month that concluded, presidents enjoy sweeping immunity from prosecution for their official conduct. The new indictment removes some specific allegations against Trump, but contains the same four criminal charges, including conspiracy to defraud the United States. It's a signal that Smith believes the High Court's immunity decision doesn't pose a major impediment to convicting the former president. All of this is an entire crock of shit. If Harris is up by eight to 10 points in every fucking poll that we see, why would you keep doing this over and over and over again? If you're Jack Smith at this point, you look like a fucking moron. And how he's able to keep lobbing indictments in Trump is absolutely fucking insane to me. - It's not just that part too. You're right about if they were actually up or felt like they were up, they wouldn't be doing this shit. Colin Harris is running advertising with Trump's border wall in it, talking about securing the border now. The one that, by the way, Andrew Bailey just had to sue the federal government to continue working on, 'cause they stopped working on it and they won that case, like the federal government has to start working on it again. So, yeah, I mean, I don't have any times I can say this. Polls or junk science, they are to manipulate stupid people. Don't believe any of this shit that you're seeing. Don't take it for granted either that you're winning. You gotta do the work no matter what, just like fucking, imagine you're playing in a fucking really important Super Bowl game, right? And you're up-- - Super Bowl. - And you're up 28-3. - You fucking asshole dude. - Don't take it for granted that you're just gonna win the game. You gotta play the whole game, bud. - I did, I did. I partied at halftime so much, man. I was smoking so much for you to do halftime. Oh, I was having, that was one of those, greatest day of my life. Half of it. - Half of it, so that boy. - Yeah, I know. Half of that day was the best day of my life, the worst of it was. - But yeah, you're right about that. They're definitely not up by any stresses you imagine. - You can't beat. - There's no reason for this. - Polly Market still has Trump at 52% the week after, the weekend after they're fucking, what do you call it, they're a convention. Like that never happened, dude. - Now, the other thing that I read yesterday was he was, he's still trying to revive the Doc's case down in Florida. - I mean, they're trying everything here at this point, but again, you're 65 days away. I'll go back to something I asked you a while ago. If this debate doesn't go well for Kamala, do they try to throw him in jail in that New York case on the 18th, a week later, the 17th, I think it is. - Maybe, I think, I think if that, any smoke around that happens, that what I said should happen. He should go to Florida, and DeSanna should put the National Guard around Mar-a-Lago and dare somebody to come down there and try to do something. - Well, the problem is, he does have to show up in court for that. - No, he doesn't. - Look, I agree, but legally he does, and if he doesn't, what do you say? Come and get me right before the election? - Yeah. - I would love it personally, and I think it would be great. Bob, since this story's super new here, I just emailed you a video from Fox who's covering this live right now. Will you play it just so that I know that I'm correct? It's on Twitter, sorry, I said email, I apologize. I just DM'd you on Twitter real quick. I just wanna make sure that I'm reading that correctly here because it seems fucking insane to me. Yeah, pop that up on screen there. (dramatic music) - All right, some news just into us right now where the special counsel, Jack Smith, has returned what they're calling a superseding indictment against Donald Trump in that DC case. It doesn't mean it's more. It just means it's more focused, I guess. Just spent on all of that right now, sir. - Yeah, hi, Neil, it is exactly a little bit more focused. In fact, the indictment itself, about 10 pages shorter than the original indictment from last year. So the same four court charges are included on this indictment. The reason that Donald Trump was re-indicted, if you will, is because the Supreme Court came back somewhat in his favor on July 1st of this year, telling Jack Smith, the special counsel, essentially in layman's terms, you need to go back and rethink about your case before district judge, Tanya Chutkin. This was supposed to go to trial on March 4th, but it was delayed because of the Supreme Court. So while all of these four court charges stay here relating to Donald Trump, the man and the candidate, some of the officials like Jeffrey Clark, the former DOJ official, have been taken out, and this is a much more focused indictment. I also wanna point out, Neil, that this is dealing with a new grand jury. So this grand jury did not hear anything about the other indictment from last August 1st of 2023. They only heard the facts in this case. What does this mean? Likely we're not gonna see any type of trial before the election. Jack Smith, the special counsel, and Donald Trump's lawyers will be in court next week here in Washington, D.C. to talk about the path forward, but really there would be no path forward unless Jack Smith did this today and really tightened up that indictment. And that's why we are where we are, Neil. All right, David, thank you. - Yeah, so it's not, they know they're gonna lose this election, frankly. And this is just, this is just like the throw everything at the wall and see what sticks approach, right? And I don't mean to get him in jail. I mean, like, oh, see, he's been indicted again. Seven times indicted. It's like saying that somebody's the fucking three-time intercontinental heavyweight champion of the WWE. - That fucking existed, dude. There's a belt right here. There's a sign belt behind me from Hogan. - Yeah. (speaking in foreign language) - Yeah, I mean, it's nonsense. It's all marketing. They're just trying to fucking tack on to everything they can talk shit about Trump. There's, Jack Smith knows he can't win this case. - So do you think they did this? So Kamala could say in 14 days, two weeks from today, you just got indicted two weeks ago. Like, was that the big thing here? The big headline? - That is if he does get indicted, right? - Well, I think they filed it, so-- - They filed it, but the grand jury has to choose to indict. - Okay. - And it's been denied yet again by Washington. No, it says he isn't indicted by the grand jury. So it was a new grand jury, and they didn't indict him. So was that what it is? Like two weeks, now she can stand up there and say, I was a prosecutor, and I'm fucking, you got indicted again two weeks ago. That's what this kind of feels like. The other question I wanna ask you is, if he becomes president, like you and I think he will, if it's a honest election here, that's a fucking big if. - Do all these charges go away then, if he's president of the United States? - I mean, certainly any kind of federal charge he could pardon himself of. - Okay. - Yeah. State or city charges, I don't think so. I don't think the president has pardon authority over that. But again, come get me. - I think the Rico Act was the only thing, right? Rico charges were the only thing that he couldn't pardon himself. - In Atlanta? - Yeah. - Yeah, and that's, that case isn't going-- - No, it's not going to, it's not going anywhere. - I don't think it'll resume any times. Yeah, he could end all of it. And then, you know, the smart move after that would be to indict Jack Smith, disbar him, so on, right? That turd that came over from the Department of Justice from the FBI to work in Albert Bragg's office, that dude's gotta go as well. It's not a smart move to just allow people to linger inside of the D.C. bureaucracy who have chosen to use law fair to effectively commit treason, right? To try to steal people's right to vote for the candidate they want away from them. You know what I mean? And support of a, of an adversary, that adversary is whomever it is that's trying to fuck with our, our republic. That is quite literally the definition of treason. So these people need to fucking be dealt with. - So if Trump gets in, day one can he fire Jack Smith? Because even the hiring of Jack Smith has come into question where Congress said, hey, we were supposed to, I was Thomas Massey actually, who said, hey, we were supposed to vote on this to have a special counsel. - At a minimum, the judicial committee would vote on it, but if not the entirety of the Congress. So yeah, I mean, yeah, he could do that. I mean, if I'm Trump, I fire everybody at the DOJ. - Merrick Garland and all of them, you know what I mean? - Like every employee, clerk, secretaries, you're all fired. Everybody at the agency, you're all fired. I don't give a shit if it leave. People will say, oh, leave us defenseless. Like, oh, are we getting defended right now? Because the CIA is spending their time fucking making shit up about us. - Right, right. - Fuck them, get rid of all these people. We don't need any of this stupid bullshit. I don't care how complicated the world is anymore. You put an armed guard on every fucking meter of the border. - That's it. - And if somebody wants to come start some shit, let them. And we'll kill every goddamn body that comes over here. The end, right? It's just like you haven't shown in any meaningful way that you can be trusted with our money or our security. So you got to go forever. - Yeah, it's a wild one here. Just reading this shit. Because what do you do, I mean, I guess if you're Jack Smith and let's say Trump comes in, he fires him. Jack Smith will send him some high-powered job, write a book. - Go write a book. - And people will buy it. The idiots who still think of good people on both sides, they'll buy it. - Can you believe you got elected? Can you believe it? - Same with, who is it, Mueller? - Yeah. - Robert Mueller, remember that fucking guy? - I remember him wearing a fucking Biden for America, sure, posting on Twitter the day before the election. - Yep, yep, yep. And nothing, nothing out of that guy. Like, he seems to just fade away at that point. He didn't have anything in that fucking case. It all just went away. And I think the same thing will happen with Jack Smith. Now, let me pose to you, the inverse to this. Let's say Kamala wins this election. What happens to Trump in these indictments? - I think he goes to jail. - Same, right? And then I think you got a fucking problem. - I think there's a war after that, yeah. 'Cause I don't know that anybody would believe this election. - People would not believe that the results of the election, people would obviously not believe, I mean, there's absolutely no basis for Trump to be on trial for any of this stupid shit. Everybody knows it's fake. - And this will go back to the Zuckerberg thing at the top of the show here. He's already admitted that the White House was involved. - Yeah, but yeah. - He's already admitted that the Biden administration was involved. - But they'll turn tail and run right back to their original position, which is defending leftist, right? Look at what happened in just a couple of days. Biden shows him who he really, really is. They can't hide it anymore at that debate. And everybody's like, oh fuck, oh fuck me, we gotta get out of here. What the hell? We can't support this shit anymore. It reached the point where they couldn't support anymore. And the first thing out of everybody's mouth was, fuck, we gotta do something about combo. We gotta get this bitch out of here, right? 'Cause it had been three or four months prior to that that people are already talking about, man, if Biden goes down, it can't be her, we gotta find somebody else. And CNN was speculating about it as early as October of 2023, right? I wrote an article on fucking CNN about it. But within a week after Harris made all of her moves, right, and boxed everybody out, it's like, oh, she's qualified, what do you mean? She's not qualified, blah, blah, blah. This is exactly what will happen. If Kamala Harris wins this election, then they will start talking about the Russia collusion hoax again, like it's real. And when I say they, I mean every media channel, every social media channel will start blocking people for not doing it. They'll start banning people's accounts. They'll bring, they'll shut down all the hundred Biden stuff, all of it, right? They'll shut down the border stuff. And then it will get to this point that the UK and Canada and Australia have gotten to where people are getting arrested for saying shit on the internet. That'll be the next step after that. - I agree. - Christopher Hedgen for the shit in 2007, right? Resist it while you can. Because the next thing they come after, they fucking let the, open the floodgates and let all these assholes into your country, right? Because they wanna change the demographics of the country and they wanna maintain control over it. All this bad shit's gonna happen and they know it's indefensible. So the only thing they can do is silence you with force. That's the only thing left. - You know they can't silence his RFK junior, by the way. - Well, he's fucking old voice. Try to do that. - Boy. Well, look, we love it. We played the speech there the other day. And God loved this guy. Did you hear the new story that he took a chainsaw to a whale's head? (laughs) - Man. - Did you hear that? - No, but what I did here was him explain his environmentalism on Tucker Carlson's show. And it is, so people think of conservationism for some reason, I don't know why, is like a left-leaning thing. But it started with fucking Teddy Roosevelt, right? It's not a left-leaning thing at all. And most, if not all, the conservationists I know, except for a couple in the mediator, for example, are Republicans. And he's the only one that I know that's like a full hardcore Democrat for whatever fucking reasons. Mind boggling to me, but... - Mediators? - Yeah, but it's like... Here's the way he describes, and Bob, you could probably find it on Twitter. Maybe even a short version of it. The way that, and again, you and I are not religious. I don't know if you've seen this yet, but you should watch it because it's very poignant, the way he describes how taking care of the environment is important, not just in, not just for the environment itself, but in the way that we connect with the Earth and God or whatever the fuck else you believe in, right? It's really, I think everybody should watch it. Unfortunately, it's like 12 minutes. - The shortest one I'm finding is six. - Okay, well, play the whole thing. - Play it, yeah, fuck it. We get some. - Go on. - Okay, hold on. - Yeah, okay, here it is, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, play it. - Democrats have become subsumed in this carbon or orthodox. In you and I have talked about this, that the only issue is carbon. And what that's done is it's forced them to do something that you should never do if you're an environmentalist, which is to commoditize and quantify everything. So everything is measured by its carbon footprint, how many tons of carbon it produces. And you're putting everything in that kind of blocks of being able to quantify it and explain its value by a numerically. And the reason that we protect the environment is just the opposite of that. The reason that we protect the environment is because there's a spiritual connection. There's a love that we have. We, I got in the environment because I wanted this connection to the fishes and the birds and the wildlife and the whales. And the purple mountains majesty. And that, you know, I understood that the way, you know, God talks to human beings through many vectors, through each other, through organized religion, through the great prophets, through the wise people, the great books of those religion, but nowhere with the kind of detail and texture and grace and joy as through creation. And when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine, to understand who God is and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings. And that, I hope what you just said, by the way, is chopped up and put all over every social media platform in the world. When we destroy nature, we degrade our own ability to experience the divine. - Yeah, and that, you know, it's not about quantifying stuff. That's what the devil does. He quantifies everything, right? And that is, you know, what he wants us doing, put a number on it. And the reason we're preserving these things is not, is because we love our children, you know? And it's because we get, nature enriches us, enriches us economically and spiritually and culturally and historically. It connects us to those 10,000 generations of human beings that were here before there were laptops. And it, you know, and it connects us to the most important spiritual asset every, every, all of the organized religions in, you know, that we know of today. The central revelation of every one of those religions always occurred in the wilderness. You know, Moses had to go into the wilderness to listen, to hear God's voice and see the burning bush. He had to go to the wilderness at Mount Sinai to get the commandments. Muhammad had to, who was a city boy from Mecca, had to go to the wilderness of Mount Hera on a camping trip with his kids and wrestled the angel Gabriel in the middle of the night to have the first stanzas of the seras of the, of the Quran squeezed from him on Buddha, had to go into the wilderness to sit under the, you know, on wander for years and then sit under the Bodhi Gayatri to get his first revelation of Nirvana. And Christ had to spend 40 days in the wilderness to discover his divinity for the first time. And his mentor was John the Baptist who lived in a cave in the Jordan Valley and ate honey of wild bees and locusts. And, you know, and then all of Christ's parables come from nature. I'm the vine, you're the branches, the mustard seed, the little swallows, the scattering that seeds on the fellow ground. Because that is where we sense the divine. God talks to us through the fishes, the birds, the leaves, they're all, you know, words from our Creator. And that is why we preserve nature. Yes, it's not because of the, you know, it's not because the, you know, the quantity of carbon. And by the way, I feel what you said so deeply, I can hardly even express it. And thank you for saying that. And by the way, we, the best thing that you can do for climate is to restore the soils. The soils are the solution, everything. The soil will absorb all that carbon. If, you know, if, and it'll absorb the water, it'll stop the flooding. It'll give us healthy food. And that's when our national policy has to be. It has to be restoring the soil. And that is, you know, everybody, listen, if you talk, if you want to unite America and talk about these things, talk about the fishes, the birds, the wildlife, and just talk about an ending, mountain top removal of mining. Talk about ending that mountain cutting, talk about getting rid of, you know, the Democrats are putting these, these offshore wind farms that are exterminating the whales. I know. Most of us got into this because of the whales. And they're about to extinguish the right whales, the last ones on earth, because with these monstrosities that are, you know, that are costing us three times the amount, we don't need them, it costs 33 cents a kilowatt hour when you can get onshore wind for 10 cents a kilowatt hour. And who's making the money? Goldman Sachs, BlackRock, foreign governments. And the other thing that they're funding, hundreds billions of dollars, this is what climate is turned into. Is these climate capture pipelines and are wreaking at it with the agricultural lands across the Midwest, stealing people's property rights with, you know, eminent domain? And who's making the money? BlackRock. And it's a useless technology that does not work. It's just all a blue and double. And that's what's become the environmental movement in this country. And if you depart from that orthodoxy, you're expelled from it. If you want to make Americans fight each other, talk about carbon. If you want to bring Americans together, talk about habitat protection. Yeah, and look at that. Interesting. I mean, I, look, we knew he was left, but I didn't really know his stance on the environment and everything else. It's super interesting to hear it. And again, to piggyback up with what you said, yeah, we're not religious people. However, nature is sacred where you're like, all right, great. Yeah, that's something we can all get behind, obviously. I mean, I've never heard it put that way. Before any God had a name, it was nature. That's how we connected to the spiritual world, the sun, the land, whatever it is. Ancient natives on pretty much every continent felt the same way about that. So you can tell it's not a shallow belief for him. Like, it's rooted in something that actually matters to him. Now, the adjudication of it, I think he's evolved quite a bit on this as time has gone on, frankly. It isn't something that the state can handle, frankly. And he's now seen the evidence of it. And unfortunately, sometimes it's better to show somebody than to tell them, right? It's just the way it works. But having seen what the Democrats have done in the name of environmental science over the last 40 years is fucking retarded. And it's not stopping now in Mule Shoe, Texas, west Texas, right now. There is a push that started with Obama, started again under Biden, called 30 by 30. It's called the 30 by 30, 30 X 30 agenda. And this is an agenda nobody's talking about, by the way. They're talking about 2025 all the time, project 25. None of this. 3530 is going to wipe out a bunch of fucking cattle and wildlife land in West Texas to put solar panels in. It literally kills the earth. So an oil derrick takes up maybe square 15 meters. These oil derks you see in West Texas all over the place. If you put in solar out there, it takes acres and acres of property and nothing ever grows again. It kills the animals. Nothing ever grows again. Animals love being near oil derks because now there's a road for them to walk on a set of fucking muddy fucking dirt in the rainy season that doesn't affect their habitat at all. But that's the fucking thing. That's what people like him have had to realize over the years is that when you leave it in the hands of the state, they're going to sell that right to the highest bidder. And that better black rock state tree, they don't get too fucks about the market. China, whoever it is, right? So when you actually listen to the man speak about it, you can see how far he's come from just this. And let's be frank, that saved the whales bullshit back of the day, noble, certainly but shallow, certainly shallow. Now has a much deeper understanding that of what conservation really is, that would weigh more closely aligned with what the average hunter feels like. There's a saying in Texas, if you take care of the land, it'll take care of you, right? And that's in West Texas anyway, I don't hear anybody right here saying it, but that's how good ideas get developed over time. It's like there's a good chance that you have more in common with the guy than you think, I guess. Yeah, to real quick, we did an episode on this on Softcore history. Save the whales, not bullshit. Maybe the movement was kind of fluffy. It was a catch-all for any fucking leftist nonsense. But to save the whales thing was definitely a good movement. The whales were legitimately slaughtered in insane scores by the Soviets. We did a whole episode on it, it's hilarious in a very dark way. And the Japanese, to an extent, but the Soviets did it for no reason. They accidentally just, they didn't understand why they were wailing or not wailing and it was on basically just a spreadsheet and they were like, how many whales should we get? They're like, I don't know, make it the same weight for like tonnage as fish. And so they just put that on an item line, right? And in a communist country, you don't wanna not hit your quota. Yeah. So very important. They didn't ask questions. They just made sure they hit quota again and again and again and just went out and killed whales. They didn't even have enough ships to process the whales but you had to just kill a certain number of whales every year. Like they literally almost made whales extinct just because of a bad accounting error. It happens by the time time, you know, at least the Asians are good at math. And what we did was we put them in SeaWorld. So I'm glad at our contribution because that's where they belong. Entertaining us so I can have a fucking 24 ounce and have my kids splashed and stink like shit in the back of the game. Whales have killed four people in the last like five years I think and three of them are all at the same place. Yeah, yeah. So it's only that one place, it's a real problem. It really is. Capturing a whale and riding at home or back and forth to school would even be fine. Shit, I let my kids do it. I get a six year old, you know. I'm taking Tijiujitsu here in a moment. So yeah, if he wants to ride a whale to school, he can ride a whale to school. Now's the point of the show we get to the drinking bro of the week. You serve been here all day, brave soldier. Look at you brave little soldier all day long. Look at that, damn it, he's got the old school meat pony sure, that's one of my faves, dude. I've been seen in years. People think we have boxes of our merch that's lying around from old school days, we don't. We don't have it. So I've been seen this in years, man. That's fucking awesome. Tell everybody your name. A Rob Terrio. Hell yeah, dude. Welcome to the show. Thank you. How long you been listening? Day one, homie. No shit. What's up fam? All right, you've been getting fucked up of a hard A.F. Seltzer all day? Oh yeah. It kicks in, doesn't it? Yes, it does. Homeboy drank 14 yesterday. Not me. Conerxism, his name is Conerxism. His name is Conerxism, he broke the record. At least we not forget. Yeah, exactly. Who do you want to give drink about the week to? Juan, you guys, I had a lot of dark times and had a divorce and between listening to the show and having support from the community. That and a good buddy named Kent, last name unnamed. Okay. He's got a real job. Yeah, I understand it. I understand. Between the show and that guy really saved my life. That's awesome, man. Well, we appreciate it. Look, we don't look at it as like saving anybody's life or anything like that. We're glad you're entertained and we're happy to have you here. Hell yeah. When you showed up, were you shocked? The doors were open on the shit. Yeah. Just like you said. You walked in, you were stunned and you were like, oh fuck, this is real. And I was like, yeah, yeah, help yourself to some Seltzer. Walked in on a PR. We got three shows today I think we had. And I was like, yeah dude, just get fucked up and hang and love the shirt, dude. Thank you. God damn, I wish I still had it. I had to dig it out. I don't. Dude, I don't have it. I barely have any of the old shit. I found an old article 15 shirt the other day and it made me happy, but that's about it. Because you know, washing machine moves and all that other shit. And you're just like, all right, cool man. But that rocks, I appreciate it. And anybody else at home, if you want to submit to Drinking Bro the Week, we'd love to have you here in person like our friend here today, or you can submit through drinkingbros.com while you're over there. Merch store, fully stocked up. Hold it up once again. I'm gonna ask you to do it 'cause Dan's on here. There it is, boom, there's the Illinois hats. Got Illinois, Oregon, got the Michigan gear in there, all of it. Go to drinkingbros.com and then you'll see a submission form for Drinking Bro of the Week. 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