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Wow. I'm smiley coffin, and this is the smiley show. Welcome back to the smiley show. Once again, here on site at the tour championship at Eastlake Golf Club. In fact, I've got the Eastlake Pro Shop right behind us. This is a tough save for Charlie. So as someone who's a big merch pro shop guy, I could just see him eyeing some of the rope hats in the Eastlake Pro Shop. Let's sit in our peripherals. There's some good t-shirts I've seen. I'm trying to get-- we came in here the other night when it was a little darker, so I couldn't get a full scope of the merch. But this morning, walked in. I was like, I wonder if there's a way I can use my badge to get in there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. 100%. I mean, there's a door right there. It's kind of fun. Oh, wait, hold on. Hold on. I'm getting breaking news here. We have a report. We have a breaking news report. We're going live on the scene to where I have corresponded. Smiley Kaufman. Smiley, you have breaking news, please. What's the report? Report that I just happened to be walking out of the elevator this morning. And to my surprise. So surprise or delight? Delight. I see-- I'm looking down on my phone, and I look up, and I see Hideki Matsuyama's translator. With carrying a drink tray of big gulps and printed on these big gulps, I hop. Three big cups and then a big plastic bag. I'm just going to assume there were pancakes in just nine sides of little small syrup packets. It was about to be a feast in the hotel today, and luckily-- I mean, it's just great to see it confirmed. And I hope, honestly, that Hideki is just doing this as a ploy, knowing I was about to leave, and just say, hey, go down there with IHOP. It should be standing there for like between the window of eight, nine, 30, and just keep on walking back and forth until we can get the Smiley show seeing this live in action. Just to kind of get us on their trail, thinking that this is a thing. And maybe that's what happened, or maybe these guys wanted to my hop this morning. If it's an elaborate ruse and/or marketing play, more power to Hideki in his camp, I love that. I'm not going to go all in that this was their breakfast this morning. I'm going to believe that potentially this is a bit. What do you think his order is at IHOP? Like, is he like a standard buttermilk pancakes guy? Is he doing chocolate chips, blueberries? Yeah, I think he just mixes up different things in his pancakes. That's my guess. It's a solid guess. I'm dying to do this IHOP video with Hideki now. Just translators, caddies, us, pancakes. These cups for big men. And I just have a hard time believing that Hideki's ordering like three diet cokes in the morning. I'm kind of hoping that they're just big old chocolate milks. Like, that's kind of what I was hoping when we're in this big goal by hop. And the logoing. I mean, these are the biggest blue cups I've ever seen just with IHOP in nice white. We'll take a big Pepsi. It's probably not going to place a Pepsi as a Coke down. But yeah, fair point. That is hilarious though. Like, when we got that text this morning in our production group chat, I was like, he's making this up. There's just no way. But he's Hideki. It was awesome, big, awesome guy. Really, really big news out of the smiley show camp this morning. I'm glad we got that cut in for the breaking news. So IHOP, reach out-- well, reach out to us too. Help us set something up. We're here for it. Hideki's clearly here for it. We have a cool thing about us now is that we can go to IHOP in the morning. We're able to go to Culver's for a nice little early afternoon lunch. And then during the evening, we can go to either walk-ons or canes and just kind of get lost in the sauce a bit. It sounds like a great meal if my metabolism was 10 years younger. We're needing to make some lifestyle changes here. I will say, on the back end of Monday's episode, I had multiple people reach out and tell me that there is a Culver's maybe 20 minutes from me in Durham, North Carolina. There's a Culver's and eight pecs, apparently, which is, I don't know if that's the best news ever or the worst news ever. Well, this is what's going to happen now. You're going to finish your rounds of golf at Hope Valley. And instead of going into the men's grill and hanging and having a drink and eating lunch, you say, guys, I got to get out here and get back to the kids to help out. And you're just going to plug in Culver's and you're going to be back in 45 minutes. I got to be honest with you, one of my favorite post-bad round traditions is just pigging out on bad fast food. That was my Monday qualifier deal. Anytime I was on the West Coast, if I missed the Monday, which most of the time you do, the reward is punishing your body within and out. Yeah. Yes, which we've also covered this on the show. We're a big fast food show, apparently. Big fast food, guys. I will go to the Culver's and carry and get some curds, because I'm obsessed with that place now. So Culver's I-Hop, the whole nine yards. We're doing well in the past years of this year. We finished our show so late. The only thing to open was Wendy's. And we both just happened to go to the same Wendy's, trying to go find food. And I said, hey, good to see you, man. Just two cars behind each other in the drive-through, going for the same spicy chicken sandwich. Well, I love it. I was telling Fran I was going to get it like, should I just get the chicken snack wrap thing or whatever? She's like, yeah, that's probably like the best thing to get there. And then say, what do you want? It's like, I'll have the double baconator. It's hard to pass up on the baconator at Wendy's. That's enough. OK, that's just about enough fast food talk, because we have the tour championship, the finale of a PGA tour season to get into here. And we got a lot of great guests lined up for you today. We've got Andrew Green to talk about the golf course, the restoration project that he's done here, which we've heard some interesting comments from players on already this week of just getting used to a place that feels very, very new to them. I mean, it's a shop, too. Two golf course. That was crazy to me to hear. Xander Schoply say, where he's like the East Lake Whisperer, that nothing feels the same to him, other than maybe just how to walk from a hole to another hole. That was wild to me. So we have Andrew on to talk about that. And we have Keegan Bradley on as well. Really excited about the BMW Championship winner, fourth in the FedEx Cup standings. So we're excited to get to that. So smiley, let's just kind of start big picture on where we stand coming into this tournament, just the FedEx Cup. You were able to get out and kind of walk a few holes. You can still have a few more to get to before you're finally prepped for the tournament on Thursday. But what are your impressions of the golf course of what you've seen this far? So I've never seen the golf course in person, and this is my first time on the grounds. When we did a show on Monday, I've always watched East Lake over the years, whether it be the Tour Championship or when it was before that, you know, grown up as a kid when it wasn't the Tour Championship. I kind of felt like the golf course on TV always just kind of felt blah to me. Like it never really did anything for me. It just, you know, it seemed like a good golf course and one that I would enjoy playing. But just it's not like a picturesque holes like you're going to be at with, you know, going on the West Coast or just these signature type holes. It's just good hole after good hole. And every player that I talked to about the golf course, they all loved it. They loved playing it. They just felt like there was good hole after good hole. So from my perspective, it's like, okay, you know, watching it on TV, I never really felt like anything crazy ever happened besides that part three 15th hole. You know, that seemed like to be the drama of the golf course. Other than that, it seemed, you know, where guys were making birdies, but like their bogeys were kind of boring because they hid in the rough. Now from being on the course and walking it, you know, obviously I'm seeing these greens for the first time. I don't know where they used to be. So I'm just seeing it for what it is. And I think it's going to be very, very challenging. The number I got from Austin Kaiser was, this would, if it's just a regular stroke plate tournament, everybody's starting to even. He said single under par would win. And he said even something closer to even is what he felt. - Really? That's the words out of his mouth. - Now, do you think he's saying that because there's still, I mean, as much work was done in the off season, there was a 13 week growing period for the new grasses. And by the way, apologies, we're in a high traffic area here. We have lots of players and personnel coming through. We actually had a delightful 10 minute conversation with Sean Foley. - Yeah. (laughing) - Go on that conversation, hope to see him again soon. But that is what's happening in and around us because we're here in the clubhouse at East Lake. But just talking about, you know, get back to Austin Kaiser's point of, you know, this is, it's obviously one year turnaround from the course last year. So do you think his assessment on the score and the difficulty of the course is related to the time it's gonna take for this thing to bed in, the firmness of greens? Or you think it's just the actual restoration and the way bunkers have been moved and things like that? - No, it'll eventually get back to where guys are gonna be able to score and be able to hold shots. But coming out of the rough, I think the example that Austin gave me was on the, a belief fifth hole and maybe it was six. I think it was six. I'm still like learning a hole in my head, but he said he hit it in the right rough and hit a wedge onto the front of the green, like went in one yard onto the green and went into the back bunker on a green that's 35 yards long. - Wow. - He just said that out of the rough, you just have no chance to hold anything because of the firmness. - And that's interesting too, because if you look at the stats on this, Andrew Green is part of this restoration, added five acres of fairway, went from 24 acres to 29 acres, and there's actually 20 acres less of rough, went from 90 acres of rough to 70 acres of rough. And I think Andrew will kind of, we'll cover that in our conversation about the way the fairways were changed and the subtle regressing of those fairways to a different type of zoysia. So if you're a player and you're in the tournament this week and you have that in mind, you've seen the way the balls reacted out of the rough, you've seen how firm the greens are, how do you game plan for that? How do you strategize for that? I mean, obviously don't hit it in the rough, but like is there any major strategy shift you think these guys are gonna employ? Now they've kind of seen the way the course is behaving. - You know, I think you really don't ever know until the gun goes off, right? Like when you get out there and you start to see kind of how the golf course is really reacting with tournament pins, you know, a lot of times these whole locations they count are gonna be pretty benign in the middle of the green, but when you get them on the corners, that's when you really start to feel how difficult a golf course can really play. So I imagine that'll be the strategy for most guys, probably err on the side of caution, not be aiming at as quite as many flag sticks, but I'll say this, that when guys have wedges in their hands in the fairway, it doesn't matter what golf course they're playing, they're gonna aim at flag sticks. But when you get on these par threes that have some length, anything with middle irons and long irons, they're gonna be saying, all right, where's my miss? Where can I get up and down from? 'Cause I think at this point they'll know where like what's reacting on a Tuesday and Wednesday with mid to long irons and they probably know, it's like, hey, even if I'm in the fairway, I can't be aiming at these flags. Like this is the only flag I can be somewhat aggressive with. So that's all what these guys are doing this week, their preparation, you know, it's unusual to see so many guys out on a Monday just listening to guys, conversations, they just said, you know what, we need to be out here seeing both sides two times. A lot of, at St. Jude this year, I see JT on Wednesday and he's like going to play the back nine that morning in a Pro Am. And I was like, did you play the front? He's like, nah, nothing changes. So it just kind of goes to show, like when these guys know a golf course, they typically prioritize rest and recovery, especially coming off of a stretch. But this week, these guys are putting a lot of work in Monday through Wednesday to try and learn this golf course to try to be more prepared than the other guy because, you know, these guys are playing for a lot of money this week and a tour championship. - That was really interesting for Monday's show. We were stationed right there at the first tee to see all those guys were making that same two times on trip from Denver out there getting working early. - Four guys in the top 10 just like rolling right through. - Yeah, getting ready for a big week. So we now are going to get right to some of these conversations we've had. We have Keegan Bradley coming up now who just as we mentioned, just won the BMW Championship at Castle Pines. From there, we'll talk to Andrew Green about this Eastlake restoration. And then we'll come back with, we think we've found a good solve for our one and done pick format. 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That's a lot of McDonald's for not a lot of money. - Price and participation may vary, for a limited time only. - All right, we are back on The Smiley Show with another special guest thrilled to have Keegan Bradley joining the show after Fresh Office win at Castle Pines for the BMW Championship, moving from 50th in the FedEx Cup to 4th. And now in a place where you've had some success here, 2011 PGA Championship at Atlanta Athletic Club, what are the past few days been like, just the whirlwind of winning and traveling here and getting ready for the tour's final event of the season? - Yeah, it's been wild. I don't normally ever sleep very well on Sunday nights anyways, but after a win, I basically don't sleep. I can't shut down. So it's always a struggle to get back on the right schedule. And I flew home, saw my family for a day and came here yesterday. And so, but it's so weird and golf, you don't get any time to enjoy anything. Now I'm back out here on this brutal course with a chance to win the FedEx Cup, the stress is all back in there. So, but it's great. - All right, so Keegan, I just wanna rewind about nine days. Let's take ourselves back to the St. Jude Championship and towards the weekend. So Saturday and Sunday, you're in a position to where you're trying to make it into the BMW Championship, just enough for an opportunity to have a chance to win. And we all know what's at stake when you make the BMW Championship. You're in all the signature events. And for you, you're gonna be the captain of the Ryder Cup team, just like not having the stress of having to worry about sponsors exemptions, having a schedule, all those things that us players think about. For you now, you made it. Your season is set, but I talked to Shane Lowry. And he said he played with you on Saturday. He said he's never, ever seen Keegan by the way, this like stressed out about trying to make it to the BMW. - It was so horrible. (laughing) It felt like, you know that tour school feeling of just like, there's no enjoyment. It's just like, you're clocking in, you're going to work and you're trying to do this. And I went into Memphis 39th. I was closer to making the Tour Championship than to missing. - You think you're safe. And then all of a sudden you're not. - And once he checks that official rejected thing, you're like, oh my God. - And you know, out here on the PGA Tour, there's scoreboards everywhere. So I just try my best not to look at these, but like all of a sudden you're like looking at a bird and then you see 52nd projected on the fettest cup and then I want to die, you know. So like it was brutal because, you know, now with a family with kids, like, you know, like, not having the structure of the schedule would have been horrible. - Yeah. - And I also was, those are my favorite tournaments to play in. And then top that with what I want to do in my career, but then also with what I want to do with the Ryder Cup. Like I wanted to be-- - Being around the guys. - Yeah, I want to be around the guys in the locker room. I want to be around the guys, you know, playing a practice round, seeing them play on Thursday, like all little things that I may have missed out on. And whatever relief it was. - Well, it would have made for a very challenging year, but once you made it through, you know, you had to just be elated just for the opportunity. And sometimes when just the stress falls off, like the game shows up and the freedom is there, and you saw that with yourself, Adam Scott, and a couple other guys that barely made it through that had to go to weeks, like Alex Norin. So when did you know at the BMW Championship at Castle Pines that this could be a really special week? - So I was playing the Pro Am on Wednesday, and it was super, super windy that day. I think the hardest it blew. And on the third hole, I hit this six iron into this, it's a really tough green, and like I hit it and I flushed it and it came out. Perfectly where I was looking, hit exactly my number, I went to like 12 feet. And I hit that shot, and I remember walking to the green like, geez, that was, that felt really good. And I swear to you, I did not miss a shot. I hit that weird, that drive on 14 on Sunday or went in the trees. It wasn't even that bad, I got caught up in the wind. Other than that, I did not really miss a shot after that. Like it was that solid. You know what I mean? And I don't know what it was. It happened to me at Hartford last year too, where missed the cut at the US Open and then went to Hartford and played the best golf in my life. - It was unbelievable. - So there's nothing I can point to other than that, that one shot and it just felt great. - Did you find anything? Like, was there anything that you did on the-- - No, okay. - To tell you that you did happen to me. - I didn't play that bad at Memphis. I really struggle on that course. I don't know what it is. I did what it was in playoff event and like, it's scary because that's not a really important event for us, so I can figure out how to play well there. But yeah. - I think one of the more fascinating parts of last week from a fan perspective was all the calculations and math that went into every single shot. Like you're at 6,400 feet of elevation. And then a lot of those holes have massive elevation changes up or down. And then you were talking about the wind earlier in the week that we saw on the weekend as well. - Well, fun for fans to watch. - Yeah. - Never had to wait for the players, caddies, but we're the reporters that are trying to figure out what to do with going live. - I thought it was so cool having an ear into the conversation you had on 17 with Scott Vale where you're going through numbers. He tells you it's 222, backs you off the shot right before you're about to hit it and said, let me just check to see what you hit yesterday. 225 said that's a perfect five iron. Of course, you stiff it, make birdy, determine at that point, effectively over. I am curious if you could, for the amateur's listening or watching who don't have a sense of what goes into determining the number for every single shot you're hitting, how different was it last week at Castle Pines from what you might see this week at East Lake? - Yeah, so I got to Colorado. I went straight to the course on Monday. It's been all day Monday and Tuesday figuring out the yardages. 'Cause for me, that's how I play, I play ball striking and one of the best things that I can do is I practice hitting my numbers. I don't ever go to the range and drop a bucket of balls and hit, like I'm always trying to hit a certain number, hit a certain amount of shots inside a proximity. So like, this is how I play. So when I go to elevation, it's really stressful for me. Like I have to get this dialed in and know exactly the yardage. So we went out and we figured that out, I had the quad, we had some from when we played it last in 2014 and we made up a chart from eight, nine, 10%. So we would get the real yardage, we called it when we got the adjusted yardage that was the real number. The adjusted adjusted was with the percentage. So we would go through that and we would get that down to where so then I would throw out the actual number that would be gone. So then I would be back to the sea level number and then I was just playing the way I normally would play. - It's really cool stuff. - Yeah, I wish I would have had that type of system. - You should have seen all the chicken scratch on my piece of paper I was trying to work off of. And I was like, wait, have I done altitude yet or have I done elevation? There's probably plenty of times where I was like, oh, this guy's got the wrong club in his hands, but really it was just my bad math. (laughing) But, getting on the BMW Championship, one of the scenarios I wanted to walk you through was you kind of already mentioned it. But final round of Q school, and then we already talked about when how difficult it was for you to make it in and it's sitting around refreshing your phone. So you got final round of Q school, you're done at the St. Jude, you're refreshing your phone. And then the final day at the BMW Championship, if you can rank which one you were most nervous for, which one you were the most comfortable for, that would be interesting to see, like final round of Q school, at home, nothing is in your hands. It's in St. Jude, and then the final round of BMW. - So Q school's in a category of its own. - It's okay, it's okay. - Yeah, that's like, that's like, I always think back now, like I'm, I'm such a better player now, and knowing what I know now, I don't know if I could get through a tour school, just knowing how important it is. Like back in the day, when I was doing it, it was, it was so like almost more fun, 'cause I was like, doing what I want, love to do now would be like horrifying. And then St. Jude, that afternoon was just miserable, the BMW on Sunday, I sort of feel my calmest in those rounds. I know it's really strange to say, like I'm more nervous on Friday when I'm on the cut line, than I am coming down the stretch of to win a tournament. It's a different type of nerves, and I've, over the last handful of years, I've definitely felt a lot more comfortable in those positions. And so I would honestly put BMW the easiest. It wasn't easy. - What I told you, I knew I thought he was gonna say. It was the most kind of bike, you know how to win. - It's more of like, what I was meant to do. The other stuff is just like, just work. - I think a lot of people, a lot of, if you ask a lot of players, they'd feel the exact same way. This is what you prepare for. This is the situations that you practice, and spend all those hours for, is for moments like that. But the one thing I gotta ask you here, is on the 18th hole, you know, once Adam missed his putt, that probably was the most nervous you were at the entire week. 'Cause now you're like, all right, buddy, let's not ruin this thing. - You didn't get this thing, right? - And I, 'cause I told somebody that was standing right next to me, I was like, if Adam missed his kick, it's missing this spot. - Yeah. - He's like, he's 1000% not making this. He's going to be playing a high line and soft. - Yeah. - If it breaks, it breaks. - Well, it's real when you're in that moment of like, I'm watching Adam putt, and I'm telling myself, you gotta be ready for him to make this. The shotty hit in there from the bunker. - Oh, unreal. - Unreal. - 'Cause to be honest with you, I was thinking, all right, you make par, you win the tournament. And then I'm looking at Adam, and I'm like, jeez, okay, hold on a second. If he makes this, and then, 'cause I'm thinking, he's on the downslope, like to hit that ball on the green would've been 10 out of 10, to hit it on the right quadrant there. - Nobody was making birdies there on the 18th hole. - It was spectacular, and then it's surreal when you're in that position and they missed that putt and you're like, holy cow, I just won the tournament. - Yeah. - It's like, I got this move on to. - Yeah, settle down, nobody. - I was talking to Dr. Moe, he helped me with my mental side, and he was like, you know you're routine on that. Last putt was like, horrible, wasn't it? I was like, I was getting that over with as fast as I could. So, but yeah, it was great. - Well, your highs and lows of your career are interesting, right? They're so different than, you know, the ebbs and flows that I experienced in the tour. You know, your highs have been super high. You've won major championships. You've been a part of big Ryder Cups and presence cups. And your lows were documented all last year with, you know, really having a good year. You know, like you've played really well, just unfortunately it was documented that you're left off of that Ryder Cup team. And what's fast for now, how things have changed, right? It seems like this year you finally got over the hump with just the break of your career. You get named the Ryder Cup captain. Now you speak into existence to everybody. You know, my playing career, I feel like I'm still in my peak. I still can still play. So, to go out and then win the BMW Championship right before these picks are about to be made, you're already an assistant presence cup captain. You haven't been part of a team in 10 years. So, to me, it feels like nothing but positives ahead for Keegan Bradley. - For sure, I, when I got the call to be the Ryder Cup captain, it was first off a complete shock. - Yeah. - But part of the call, the first things they said were we want you to be the first playing captain since Arnold Palmer in 1960. - Wow, wow. - So like, it wasn't like we don't think you can play anymore. Or we don't, you know, you're in this ceremonial role. Like they made it very clear to me and other players, top guys that are on the team said we really want you to be on the team. So, you know, it was definitely a part of me 'cause you start to think not like a player as a captain. You start to think, and I have to catch myself 'cause I start, you start to think of not what you would normally think of as a player. You wanna do what's best for the other guys. And then I have to sort of sometimes remind myself about, you know, how I'm still, I think I'm playing the best call from my, of my life. And I think I have, you know, years ahead of me here of Good Golf, and I'm so proud to be, you know, the Ryder Cup captain and the vice captain for Jim Fiorek and have a chance to make the president's cup team because I thought when I played in my first Ryder Cup in 2012, I was gonna play on these teams for the next 15 years. - What win? - And, you know, I can tell people you never know when your last shot is in one of these things. And my last shot as I sit here now was the final deciding point to Jamie Donaldson and Glenn Eagles for the Ryder Cup. - So you had to sit on that, the bag is still not untied? - Still, yeah. So, you know, to be in the conversation and to be, you know, with these guys, this means a lot to me and I really don't take it for granted. It's a lot of pressure and a lot of, it's a lot of weight to it. - Keegan, this is, we're a well-documented dad pod here. We're both relatively new fathers, really loving that whole process. And I thought it was so cool seeing on your Twitter, yeah, after winning the BMW Championship, you shout out to your wife, Jillian, your sons, Logan and Cooper, the way they decorated your 2018 BMW Championship trophy. So, what is, is this is Logan's stuffed animal, Puda? Am I saying that right? - Yeah, Puda, yeah. - Puda, okay. So, give me a little backstory on Puda. - So, Puda is a big player in our house. He's been, he's been Logan's, you know, blanket or teddy bear that he sleeps with forever. And, so they went in, they didn't tell me, Logan started to tell me on Saturday night, and my wife stopped him, but then I had him tell me. My wife didn't want me to know anything about this, but they took my 2018 trophy, and they put Puda in there, and Logan spent the night without sleeping with Puda. - Wow, that's a big. - Which was like, I couldn't believe it, I couldn't believe it, and then they plucked-- - Things are looking up. - Yes, they plucked some hair off of my dog, Penny, and put it on top of it, if you zoom into that photo, you can see it. And, as like a good luck charm. And, so special, like the winning as a not a dad, and then winning as a dad, it's not even close. But, the funny story about, 'cause my son is all jacked up about me winning, but after he says, but I really actually wish you didn't make these tournaments, 'cause then you'd be home. And I'm like, Logan, you work hard, you get there, he goes, yeah, I get it, but that's great, but if you didn't make the tournament, you'd be home. - I'm like, well, that's nice to me. - Pretty sweet, certainly. - Do you have the family with you this week? - You're coming on Friday, yeah. - That's fantastic, yeah. - Well, it's hard to pivot off of Puda. - Yeah. - It's hard to really, to go to the next topic, but actually, you wanna circle back here, like, Troy, this is your first time meeting Kagan, nicest guy in the world, right? It's so fun to talk to. And, this guy, when he gets in match play mode, not the nicest guy in the world. This guy, this guy goes full laser beams, like, I don't know if psychotic's the right word, but he wants to kill you if he's playing you. And, I think that's such a great quality to have, as far as your competitive spirit. I mean, we heard the USA chance last week, you're pumping up the crowd like it's a Ryder Cup last week in Denver, and I love that you're already in this mode because I wanna talk to you a bit about you being the Ryder Cup captain, and potentially even the president's cup vice captain or player, how much, you know, you're gonna have to either cater down a little bit towards, you know, being a little bit more even keeled as a captain, or are we gonna see, like, the Luke Donald handshake right before the first round and just be like, sorry pal, and we know you're gonna look your brother too. - Well, I think it's really important to be authentic as a captain, as a vice captain or a captain. I think any time you try not to be yourself, it doesn't come off right to the team. So certainly, you know, as a captain, you have to have a certain amount of poise and, you know, strategy to how you act. But I also am gonna be myself. And I think one of the reasons why they've chosen me to be captain is they want a little fire. Like this Ryder Cup Bethpage is gonna be insane. - Insane. - And, you know, the boys, they're all, most of the guys on the team that'll be on the team, they're such level calm guys. And I love that about them. And I think I can bring a different side of like, you know, a little bit more fire, a little bit more like getting the guys going, getting the crowd going. - Have you seen old school? - Yes. - You know, when Will Ferrell's in his underwear, in the locker room and he's throwing chairs, everybody's gotta keep their composure. That is what I'm picturing Keegan Bradley's like, Photoshop is head on like right before we go out. - I got to speak to Xander after he won the British Open a second after he walked up the green. And he was talking to me and people like he just finished a practice round. It was bizarre. I, like, after I win a tournament, I forget about the British Open, you know, you're so jacked up and he's talking to people and me as if we just ran into them and off this green right here. It was, so these guys, they're such good dudes and like I look forward to being their captain. - And we definitely look forward to watching it on the way out. You know, you are 4th in the FedEx Cup and also number four is what the season, win total potentially for the Patriots is gonna be-- - I know. - To write maybe four and a half. Let's give him the half so the hook is there. Are we taking the over? - I'm gonna take the over. - We're gonna take the over, believe in it because I'm a big North Carolina football sicko and Drake May. All right, how we feel about Drake this far? - So I got, I just, I would love to see him play. I've seen him in the preseason and like, he seems to be getting better and better and better. And I just, it's exciting, it's exciting for a Patriots fan because like there seems to be like extreme talent there 'cause growing up where I grew up, there's no college football. So I didn't really see much of him play but it's exciting time. - Yeah, it's, he did a lot with hardly any talent in Carolina. So I think whatever he has with the Patriots, he'll be able to make it work. - Well, I love it. - You gotta give your Boston common golf bit. - Oh, do we need to break up Boston common? I think that people are asking questions as both of the FedEx Cup playoff events have been won by, it's frog, the frogs that Matt's got. - Yeah, so double frog winner, like do we need to break up the squad? - I think, are they too stacked? - No, are we too stacked? - Our whole entire team made it to Atlanta, which is pretty, pretty amazing. Yeah, we, it's gonna be such a blast. I mean, Hadeki was a late addition to the team and geez, we got him pretty good team. - He didn't solve anything about his IHOP stuff. - I saw it last week and he's Chick-fil-A every night. - Is that what it is? - No, I saw his translator today with three big old IHOPs in the hotel. So I just didn't know if this is something that you were aware of, that he's a big IHOP guy. - Maybe a frog pre-game meal. - Yes, perfect. - I couldn't imagine eating that before playing a tournament, but yeah, he's gotta figure it out. - This has been great, you know, Keegan, I've known you for a long time. You've been a great mentor to me and somebody I could always go to about anything in the game of golf and it's been a lot of fun watching you succeed and I was pumped to see you get named Captain and I'm hoping to see you playing Vice Captain very soon in Montreal next month. - Thank you, boys, I appreciate it. - No worries, thanks for your time. ♪ He's better over him ♪ - AT&T customers, switching to T-Mobile has never been easier. We'll pay off your adjusting phone and give you a new one free, all on America's largest 5G network. Visit tmobile.com/carrierfreedom to switch today. Pay off up to $650 via virtual prepaid master card in 15 days, free phone up to $830 via 24 monthly bill credits plus tax, qualifying court and trade and service on Go 5G next to credit required. Contact us before canceling entire account to continue bill credits to credit stop and balance and required finance agreements do. - Make us your game day headquarters this football season. Stomp by your nearest pen play destination for all the grid iron action. Watch the best games on our giant screen TVs. Throw back a few of your favorite ice cold pints with friends, tackle the area's best game day food. Get in the game with deals, drawings, rewards and more. To find a pen play destination near you, visit penplay.com. Score big this football season at your pen play game day headquarters sponsored by ESPN bet. Must be 21 or older gambling problem. Call 1-800-Gambler. - What a fun conversation with Keegan Bradley. - Really, really good dude. It's good to see him in good spirits. - I mean, I'm glad you got to see just how great of a guy Keegan Bradley is, why he's so well-wiked, why he was named the Ryder Cup captain. You could see it through his personality, what type of guy he is, but when he gets on that golf course, it's a totally different human being, and I love that about him. I try to embrace that competitive spirit as well, so it's gonna be fun to watch him as a captain and maybe as a playing captain here pretty soon. - It's that Boston common frog mentality. - Yes, it is. - It means just second to none. So that was really fun chat with the BMW Championship winner, the man who was sitting fourth on the FedEx Cup points list headed into the Tour Championship. And now we're gonna get to a conversation with Andrew Green, the architect who did a restoration project in this last year on East Lake. A lot of interesting changes, players have seen it for the first time, have a lot of wide-ranging set of reactions to it. So it'll be in the eventful week for the golf course itself, and we'll get to that conversation right now. All right, we were thrilled to be back here on The Smiley Show at East Lake Golf Club with Andrew Green, the man who's done some extensive work here. Andrew's done work in a ton of historic, amazing courses. Most recently, you're probably familiar with his work at Oak Hill for the 2023 PJ Championship there. We'll really love and enjoy another Donald Ross course up there. We also have some personal ties here. Doing some work at Scholl Creek. - Yes. - Your home's on. - Not yet, but we're getting there. - We're getting there. - Hopefully next year is, I think maybe October is thing. - You got it, yeah. - And I gotta say, in my research for this, I was thrilled to learn that I gotta give a shout out to my wife here, that you're a hokey, as well. - I know. - Two degrees from Virginia Tech. - Yeah, absolutely. There's a lot of ties in here. - So Andrew, just to get started with this week, we've heard some comments from some players now, who've seen the course for a couple of times, what's your reaction to what we've heard thus far to the work you've done here at East Lake? - Yeah, I think it's been interesting. The Oak Hill reaction was probably way too positive to ever think I could relive that. But it's, I'm really trying to unpack it the last, I don't know, 36 hours or so, and I keep thinking about this idea that, of course they were familiar with the Old East, but now it's a real test. And we did things to really allow you to explore your entire game, and you have to hit shots that are testing those edges. And so, I probably got them a little uncomfortable, not only just the idea that it's new, the Greens are really firm, but that they're having to hit shots they never hit before, and when we're doing renovation and restoration work, you've got a group of members that grow up at places, and so there's a lot of familiarity. It's not too far different from this, where the players were very familiar, and so understanding the golf course, and trying to play shots that maybe they thought, they played before, and you can't play that shot now, is interesting, I thought Zander I think said something like there isn't even a tree to aim at, that I'm aiming at, it's not that we cut 'em down, it's just we changed the sight lines. - That's so interesting, and I see this all the time now, when it comes to restoration projects, and stuff like you've done at Eastlake and other places, is that you use just pictures, aerial photos from, I think it was 1949 is what I saw, so my question is, was this all weighing around, did you have to dig to find this aerial photo, was it readily available, or let's say you didn't find it, now what's the plan, I guess that's my question, it's like if you didn't have what it looked like back then. - Yeah, so I found the photo in a government archive doing a search, that's kind of a part of my typical process, when I come to a club, I really wanna understand how, even if it's a newer course, how it's evolved, what decisions have been made, so understanding that timeline's important. This picture in particular from 1949 was crystal clear, like that resolution was really good. - That helps. - Which in '49 is kind of nuts. And then, we also had some pictures from right before George Cobb redid the course for the Ryder Cup, and that's when the course really changed from what Bobby Jones and Alexa Sterling played. And so we compared those two pieces together, and it started to really help understand how the golf course presented itself. If we hadn't found some stuff, I don't know. I kept looking for things that reinforced the ideas that I saw, and would help tell the story. And even George Cobb's plan to renovate the golf course had the old course drawn underneath it. So, we knew the green shapes and things from that. - And what we're seeing this week for the tour championship were a lot of folks have not seen this golf course. These green complexes, this is matches similar to what it used to be like at one to 18? - Yeah, there's some wheel room. The first green, so every green actually had two kind of surfaces, a winter and a summer green in Atlanta. It all kind of edges of the turf spectrum. So, sometimes they were like a black and white cookie. There was one surface that was made and just one grass and one half and one on the other. - Wow. - Sometimes it was two different putting surfaces. So, four, there was a green on the left and a green on the right, old 13. - Oh, 13, I'm looking at mine. - And the green on the, there was an oak tree in between. And so we picked the green on the right, mainly because it allowed the golf hole to start to turn. And a lot of the holes on what's played as the front side now are really just back and forth. You know, there were soldiers kind of going back and forth. And then there's things like one green originally was against the boundary. Well, I really couldn't put it right on the road in the modern game. So, there were a few of those things that we adjusted. Number eight is, you know, is- - This number eight or seven? - This number eight. - This number eight, yeah. - That one is, is an original. - Yeah. - With the intent of shifting nine T's left and creating a drivable par four. - Yeah. - I had a good chance to look at that whole Charlie. We could see it from our set that we had on Monday. The opportunities mainly with like left hole locations was where you're gonna see guys try to hit driver that have the length, I think. What's the carry on that, that bunker on the left? - It depends on which T right? - Yeah. - The DMT I think is 390 and then the up T is 330 and then they could play it all up to 300. - You'll see guys hit driver probably to the left pins. There's one like right hole location that's, that if you hit driver to that hole location, it's a, you're taking on a huge risk 'cause if you miss that fairway and you hit out of the rough, you're playing for, you'd be lucky to make par. - I'm curious on, could be this project or any other project when you're doing a restoration of sorts. How much of it is, like you're saying, looking at an aerial photo and trying to kind of remain true to the original design and how much of it is you trying to get inside, whether it's George Cobb or Donald Ross's head and just think, what would his intent have been if he was designing this course for the modern game, modern equipment, modern players? - Yeah, that's an interesting question and I think it tends to fall in a little bit of both of, not, I don't think I'm ever really seeing the restoration fitting the modern game, whether it be green speeds and slopes or the distances covering bunkers and things, that would never work. But if we can take the green shapes, the green contour kind of ideas and then kind of just manipulate them enough to work today, I think that's where I'm trying to blend and the hope is that if the original guy was here, he'd be proud or at least in somebody agreement with what we've done. - So I was listening to Victor Haben talk about this the other day and I spoke with him on the golf course and I think initially guys immediately figure out that the golf course is different. I think a lot of people, when they showed up, they see the aerial photos, they don't really know what they're getting into as far as just how different it is from what they've played over the last decade to what they're seeing this week. And there was a shot that Victor was describing that I think kind of, it describes a little bit more what these guys are facing this week and that's on the second hole, the part three, a green that used to be, it was a two-tiered green if I recall, very narrow, it was a two-tiered ish, it was whatever, it's the green now is huge. It's a big green but there's a right hole occasion tucked over a bunker and Victor was describing the shot as if you go at it, you're bringing in five but if you play like three steps left of it, you're gonna have like a 40 footer because everything kind of slopes that way. So for a shot like he's describing, do you feel like it kind of characterizes the type of golf course that Eastlake is now meaning you have to be a little bit more precise and first, I know this is a part three but playing from the fairway and having scoring clubs in your hands to be able to attack some of these whole locations and now have a little bit more treachery around them. Yeah, I think every time I was trying to make a decision I wanted the player thinking and the idea of taking dead aim out here, there's some whole locations that you shouldn't take dead aim. And whether it's a little short, a little left, whatever. The second green is massive. It's awesome. You could practice a 12 hole occasion. They could use so many and they'll all be good. And I think some of them are gonna play better as the greens mature and hold a bit better. But I would ask the players to be more thoughtful of how they attack some of this, where the shots they typically hit weekend and week out, some of those aren't gonna work here. They just aren't. Whether it be the green firmness, the shapes and contours of the greens. And I think the player that embraces the idea that there's some challenge and a bit more of, you know, let's find her, right? There are holes if you took on and you missed an inch. - Yeah, too, a bit of an extreme. - Bit of an extreme. - But, you know, sometimes you need to play away a little bit, 100%. And this golf course, I think most professional golfers and caddies and people that have been around the game understand that this golf course was renovated quickly. Like this is not, this golf course has not matured yet. It's not where it's gonna be three or four years from now. This golf course this week is gonna have firmness. It's gonna be playing harder than it ever will. So, from your perspective, as someone who knows what the long-term vision is of this golf course, is it gonna be difficult or easy for you to sit back this week with shots that you know aren't gonna react like they will a year or two from now? - Oh, I'm here for it. - I mean, just, yeah, no, I mean, greens for it. - We're fine with it, we're fine with it. - I mean, some players are gonna be, you know, sure. - Green firmness is the number one Kryptonite for the modern player. You know, they just spin the ball so much, they hit the ball so high, you know, it's... So, when you get the green firmness, then you gotta be a little more thoughtful. And I, yeah. I mean, I think about the average player. If you're, you know, sitting at home thinking about your game, how many times, other than maybe a wedge or nine ironer, you flying it at a flag expecting it to... One hop and stomp. You know, you're bouncing it in, you're using contours. And I'd say even the tour players, when they go play in the Open Championship, the Scottish Open, whatever, they're using more of those kinds of skills. - And I think... - Which is fun. They love playing in that, right. - But once you come across the pond back, it's like, no, I can't do that. So this week with the firmness, I'd love to see some players thinking more of those kinds of shots. - That's awesome. Andrew, I sort of fancy myself as an amateur grass nerd. You know, we tried to do our best around here to, you know, understand what these grasses are doing. But of course, there's a level of expertise that's far above ours that haven't been said. You and I were talking before we started this record. And I thought this was super interesting. You can look at this course and say, all right, okay, they had zoysia fairways. They still have zoysia fairways. They had Bermuda greens. They still have Bermuda greens. I think it's really interesting talking about the difference between Meyer's zoysia, which the fairways were going to Zorro's zoysia, and then going from the many verde Bermuda to the tip eagle Bermuda. And we'll love it if you could just kind of explain what those differences are, the way they're gonna behave. - Well, I think that's actually playing a lot into what the players are seeing. Because when you put a little more slope contour and, you know, character into the golf course, when the grasses play firmer and faster, it just changes your mindset. The old Meyer in the fairways, you'd hit it and it land and that was about it. Maybe it rolled out a couple of paces. Now the Zorro is a bit thinner bladed grass. It sits a bit more upright. The ball wants to chase a little bit more, but it still will hold different than a Bermuda grass fairway or a bent grass fairway. Great examples, 14 and 18. We put more slope in those landing zones, trying to get the ball to hang a little bit so that those shots, you gotta judge that lie. The ball's chasing, but it's not just running on the rough automatically. So there's a nice balance there. With the greens, the Tif Eagle tends to be a more stable turf for warm season green than a lot of our other options at the moment. It's, you know, green this year, there's no green. They're so young. - Yeah. - And a number of players have talked about that and caddies 'cause they're like, well, how do we play the green? - Right, right. There's no green. - It's in Pennsylvania. - Yeah, so. But both of those grasses are really providing a great surface today and also great sustainability for the club. - You know what's back? Like, you know how part of my take is-- - What's back in the week? - What's back in the week? - Zoysia's back. - Zoysia's so back. - Zoysia is back. You know how many clubs now that are just dying to put Zoysia in? And it's not the Zoysia that we grew up on where you're in the golf cart and you're driving down the fairway and it's just going back and forth. - There's different strands of the Zoysia now that are fantastic. I know that Shoal Creek, we're looking at the stadium Zoysia, which is a darker green, which I think you can get down pretty tight, kind of similar to what Eastlake has out here with the Zorro. - Yeah, we have a different Zoysia grass around the greens, actually. - The prison, right? - It's super tight. - And that's actually what Brad is in. - It's so cool. - A putting surface Zoysia. - No water. - So you could actually take it way down. - That's why it's going to play fast, like, that's why it can play fast. 'Cause most times when you think about Zoysia, you think about that first bounce like you were talking about that just doesn't go anywhere. But when you have something that's that tight, this prison Zoysia, it first off, it looks amazing to look good on TV, but it plays like really tight, the grain's not going to be a super big issue, but you're going to have to be able to clip it to be able to get spin on it. - Well, and that's, maybe this is getting a little off topic, but now the grass nerd in me is kind of working here. - Is Zoysia four clubs in warmer climates? Is that, are we going to see more Zoysia greens and things like that? Or is it, like, is that becoming a competitor 'cause we're moving here, I'd say? - Like, you know, I think there's one in Atlanta that I'd-- - Yeah, I think we're seeing where it's going. - Yeah. - The technology and the breeding and what the growers are bringing to the table is outstanding. I mean, we've even got some of those Zoysia grasses are putting on bunker faces and not mowing an entire year because they just don't grow, which is phenomenal for maintenance and cost. So there's a number of things we're trying. The problem is there's no magic grass, there's no magic turf, it all takes labor, it all takes work, it all takes, you know, some sort of inputs, you know, from either fertilizer, pesticides, whatever, to be good. - Yeah, it's funny, you know, I just, we're, we're so many things on this spot, but what we are, we're grass guys. - We're big grass guys. - I've heard the t-shirt Zoysia is back. Zoysia, definitely Zoysia is back. So where are you going to watch this tournament from? Are you going to be here all week? Are you going to watch on your TV and giggling? Are you, where are you going to be? - Yeah, the plans to be here all week unless I get run out of town. We were lucky enough to be able to run a house here nearby that we can walk to the corner. So I have my team here, here in the beginning of the week. - How big is the team coming? - I've got, I guess, got four guys on staff, my wife, who helps a ton. And then we just hired another guy that'll start in January. So we got some really good team members. - And your son, to watch the great class. - Yeah, he's in town at the moment. - Well, we just assumed your son was coming in just to see the fine work that you've done on this golf course. Then we find out, no, he's just here for the creators class. - Absolutely, he cannot wait. - Well, you'll be watching CharliePoint next year and you'll probably not here. - Let's start the movie right now. - Let's go campaign going. - He said you have to be lower than a four handicap. So your handicap management, I know you're a one now, but the world's worst one. - Yes, we have someone from the USGA on next to talk about how that score penalty system works. So we'll get to that soon. - All right, man, on the way out, I know you got some other projects coming up. So we might as well talk about the project that's near and dear to my heart, which is Shilkree. Just overall impressions of what you, when you get on the property at Shilkree, and then to where we are now and kind of what you expect that place to eventually be like. - Yeah, so an amazing place. Hall Thompson, his vision there. - Yes. - Incredible. - I met Hall as a kid, did you? - Yeah, he's quite a character. Yeah, so trying to make sure that we stay true to the nature of his founding vision. A great place to go, spend some time playing the game with golf with some buddies, right? Having a good time. - Yes. - Hitting all the shots that you can think of, that's something that's really top of mind, trying to add more variety to the experience. A little bit of what you see here, a little more movement in some of the fairways, bringing the creek back. - Yes, Shilkree. - To Shilkree. - Yes. - Shilkree. - Feels appropriate, yeah. So we're gonna open the creek back up on seven. - 'Cause we had that tornado go through, 'cause that had to be very odd as an architect when you get in, and one of our guess 15 holes all matched the rest of the golf course, 'cause a tornado ripped through and took out thousands of trees insane. - Insane. - Insane. - So all the greens will get reworked. We actually found, in this case, Bob Cup, who was working with Nicholas, had drawn sketches of all the greens, and I'd actually drawn like a perspective of them. So we're not just gonna sit there and like build exactly what he had on there because things have even changed in that period of time, but we've used that as a bit of inspiration, which is kind of cool. And yeah, so I think just more variety, more fun for the average player. A little tougher for you. - Yeah, buddy. - Yeah. - Great. (laughing) And yeah, I think it looked, it's got a major championship pedigree, and we wanna embrace that, as well as just the great place that it is. - Gets me excited, Charlie. Gets me excited. - He should. This guy's playing the member guess coming up, so he's excited, too, to get his first eyes on it. Gotta give a shout out to the superintendent out at Shilkree James Carroll. That guy's a good man. He's epic. He's also a guy I talk grass with. James and I. - I was there Monday with him. - Talking grass. - Talking grass. - Talking grass. - Talking grass. - Talking grass. - He's singing, talking grass. - All right, Andrew, thank you for your time. I know you gotta start doing some scouting for this creator classic to make sure your son's all dialed in with you. - That's just like mine, too. (laughing) - Well, I appreciate your time, man. It's been a lot of fun to kind of get to know you and then just this golf course what we're expecting this week. So I appreciate you. - Awesome, thank you. - Thank you. - Thanks, Andrew. Well, here we are wrapping up our final FedEx Cup playoff episode, The Smiley Show. Big thanks to Keegan Bradley and Andrew Green for taking the time to join us here in this little room here outside of the pro shop at East Lake. I think they're making some smoothies in the kitchen behind us. - Yeah, it's cozy. - It is cozy. - It is cozy. Definitely cozy. (laughing) Nice cozy setup, but we've covered the golf course. You've heard us talk to several players this week. Xander Shovely, Sam Burns included. You're pretty well previewed at this point. So here's where we're gonna get right to our one and done picks and really this is, we're in an interesting spot, Smiley, because most one and done leagues at this point are done because they're doing it off of money or FedEx Cup points and obviously this week is very different because the purse is scaled along with starting strokes. So it's kind of tough to parse that out. So here's where we've arrived for our one and done format. We kicked around some ideas on the show and I think this one works is we're taking the FedEx Cup points we accrued over the course of the season, slotting ourselves into the standings list. So I would be third, you would be fifth. So that means I'm gonna take the same amount of starting strokes as seven or the third place finager, sure, okay, we'll do a little pick up there. (laughing) We'll get all caught up there. - You're taking the third, that's for you. - Yeah, so yeah. - So what that means is I'm taking the amount of starting strokes the third place finisher has. That's currently Hadeki Matsuyama. So I am starting at seven under. You are taking the fifth place finisher strokes. That's Lou Big-O-Bear, five under. - There's only two shots, baby, let's go. - Only two shots and then the player that we are each selecting, we're gonna take their non-adjusted score and then adjust with our starting strokes and that will determine the season long, Smiley Show, one and done champion. This feels like a Scotty chef or situation from your standpoint, with you with a bit of a comfortable lead over me at this point. And it's as Scotty says, is it really a season long race? You know, if I want X amount of times that I think you could march on that boat with Scotty, but I tell you what, I would love to drink out of the trophy on Sunday night. - Yeah, I would like to either run back Scotty's quotes or give a few of my own here because I am realizing and looking at my list of guys I've used and I am almost entirely hosed at this point. - Because you still have a few-- - I have so many am I. - I have way too many bullets in the chamber and we're gonna learn for that for next year because I think I overthought the one and done all season long, just trying to save up, save up, save up. So if I could use, I mean, I wish I could just hand you one of my guys because I think I still have like half of the top 10 in the world still available. - Yeah, this would be great. Like if what the PGA Tour did is they did not reveal the FedEx Cup format until the last event and the left guys figured that out, it'd be very interesting. That is what's happened to me. So you, I believe have the first pick this week and so you are at five under and who are you taking? - Well, I thought about this pick like from day one and this was a no-brainer decision and hard it was this year to not take this player because he was playing as good as golf of anyone. I already used, and this isn't Scotty Schofler, we're talking about Xander Schofle and I saved him up for Eastlake in the Tour Championship but I did kind of forget that they did do a restoration project, so it's not the same Eastlake that Xander's played on. So were you at all? Talking about this complete new golf course. - I know you have a tree to aim at. - I have Xander Schofle and I don't care. I, it's better situation than any of your picks can be because I have the player that probably, you know, he's coming in with a little bit more form. I would say than Scotty coming into this week. So I feel really strongly about my chances to win the one and title in year one. - I think Xander could be playing Mars Golf and Country Club. Probably would do pretty well. - He'll be just fine. - Yeah, so that's, I listen, I wish I still had Xander. My list, I've used Scotty, Xander, Ludwig, Rory, Colin, Wyndham, Sam Burns, Patrick Cantlay, Sungjay M, Tony Finow, Victor Hovland, Akshay Batilla. I'm pretty, I've gone through most of the list here. So here's what I'm looking at is I've got, yeah, where we got, who are we between? I'm just, just generally curious. - If we're looking at the top of the board, I still have Hideki and Keegan at my disposal. So do I go with good show mojo, the smiley show bump rock with Keegan? Do I go with Hideki Matsuyama who is playing for stacks of cash and stacks of pancakes? - It just came, just came off an injury. - Just came off an injury. - Didn't even play BMW. - But pancake therapy, it's a real thing. - Let's fix that back right up. Or do I go further down the list? 'Cause obviously it's, this is just like their score without starting strokes. So do I go for JT who has a lot of ground to make up and needs a big lead? - Do I need to play for it? - I think I'm gonna go with, yeah, that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go with the longest running friend of the show on the smiley show. - I'm gonna be here for a current guest. I'm gonna use Justin Thomas this week at Eastlake. Lot to play for. Got us play his way into the President's Cup picture. I think he's currently 19th on the points list. Big week could do wonders for him. I'm gonna go with Justin Thomas this week. - All right. - And seven shots. - Okay. - I just got to have Xander Shoff play with my three. - That's all you got to do. So JT, play well out there, buddy. That's a conclusion that I wanted done. I don't think we're gonna do a fall season of one and done. I don't feel like that's-- - No, we'll see you back in the century. - We'll see you play. - We'll see you in a while. But why don't we just give just a couple suggestions on players that we do like? And I'll say this. And I thought Keegan would have been a great pick just with how high he hits the golf ball. I think this course sets up again. Like you have to hit fairways. And I know we say this every week is like, well, we're always trying to find the guy who's accurate. You need somebody who's long and accurate this week. So that's where my brain kicks in with Rory, Ludwig. Like these are two guys that hit it up in the air, high into greens. So I really do think like Keegan, Ludwig, and Rory are three guys that just kind of just stand out to me a little bit. - That was the one piece of sound from Scotty's presser in discussing the course, in discussing him potentially playing down the 10th fairway when he's playing the 18th hole, which we've just now learned. They've made the 10th internal out of bounds this week. So he will not have that option. So, but he said that one of the only guys he saw hold the 18th green playing from the proper fairway was Rory McElroy. So that theory absolutely holds water. And just hearing some-- - Had a lot of success here too, right? - Yeah, this is a good place for him. - Good. So I like all those. I mean, I think, yeah, it's the best 30 players on tour this season. So I feel like at this point, all those you mentioned are good shouts. - Maybe a Wyndham Clark? - This guy's got the most, I feel like Sam Burns. Sam Burns to me is the guy that just has had, I feel like the best run, I would say. - Absolutely. He played his way on each one. - I feel like Sam Burns would be the guy that, if you're looking for somebody who's a little down the board, I thought he was, he's not starting at 200, isn't he? - It's 400, yeah. - He's starting at 400. I mean, I still feel like six shots back. I feel like Sam Burns is a guy who's gonna finish inside the top four at the end of the week. - Do you think, do you like going a little further down? Do you like, like, an Adam Scott continuing to maintain some momentum in this build? - I just worry a little bit about height in the greens with most guys down the board, I really do. I think the guys at the top are the guys that hit it harder, hit it higher, and I'm kind of leaning that way this week. So like guys, like, you know, we always say, for most of my hit the fairways, and like, so you would think like Russell Henley, you know, guys like that, but like Tony Feynau, 'cause he's a player that I liked this week just 'cause he hits it hard. His iron game, he can control trajectories and hit it up in the air if he needs to. But I'm not picking anybody that doesn't have like really strong landing angles in the greens. - Well, there you have it. Pretty solid rundown there for anyone trying to sprinkle some cash around in addition to our season ending one and done FedEx Cup on The Smiley Show. So we're wrapping here, Smiley. This is the last one on the road. We gotta go back home. Here's your final opportunity to provide some final thoughts from Eastlake. - Oh man, what a run it's been. Thank you for all who've listened to all of our shows. Thank you for all the hard work for our team behind the scenes with Brian Santuil, Jackson Brown. Two guys that have made things happen. Charlie obviously getting help in getting these videos turned around. So it's been a really good run for the playoffs. We're excited to kind of do more of this next year as well. But really, I think just this tour championship, I'm excited to see who's gonna win. I think it's gonna set itself up for potentially who's gonna win player of the year. I know I've already kind of put in stone that it's Scotty's year. I still feel like that recency bias of Xander, if he was to win, could definitely skew the scales a little bit as far as what that race might look like at the end of the year. But I think it'd be a fitting ending to the season if we had a showdown between Scotty, Xander and then throwing another player on a Sunday. So I'm hoping that for all golf fans that we get that and we get a really fun tour championship. And then we're into football season and we're gonna be doing some picks and stuff for that as well. - That's right, stay tuned on that front. We got a couple of little pools cooking, maybe a little pick 'em game for football and a little survivor pool for the NFL. So stay tuned to our socials to get some information on how you can join us and play in those contests. But that's about it. I'm gonna go find Andrew Greed's son and then go walk around and watch some creators play some ball here and he's like, I feel like, is the play. So we really appreciate all of you joining us. These past few weeks, watching and listening and we'll have a recap of this event plus some previews, some thoughts about what the presence cup, the final six picks for each team should be on Monday. - And by the way, to you, happy game day, early. - Yeah, happy early game day. - Happy game day. - When is LSU player? - We play Sunday night, so I'm gonna probably tape the show or excuse me, tape the game, drive home, turn my phone off and then just watch it like it's live. - We have Minnesota Thursday night, 8 p.m. - Cool. - Yeah, nice. (laughing) - So many people are like, oh my God. - Oh yeah, great. - Max Johnson, please. - Yo, you said you play him at home. - Road. - Oh, so you're gonna have the gopher on the video board for like the kicks. Have you seen the gopher just like, dude? - Yes. - Have you seen it? - We're a one and a half point favorite, which is ultimate track. - Oh my God. - Ultimate track. - We're taking the gophers, baby. - Hey, we're the gophers. I just hope, I just hope we get out of there with the win. - Yeah, I'm gonna be rowing the boat so hard. - Geez. (laughing) - That is, I'm very, very cautiously waiting into this college football season. - There's a really good chance for both O and one to start the year. - Who y'all play? - We play USC in Vegas. - Oh, yeah. That's not great either. - I mean, we're a favorite, but we've lost every home opener since 19, so. - Yeah. - Football season. - I'm so glad to be back. - Back with Titus. (laughing) - Well, a lot of fun this week. And yeah, well, we'll talk to you very shortly here with some tour championship recap, some Presidents Cup preview, excited to do it all and get ready for the final marquee competition of the golf year in and about a month here. So thanks for watching and listening. We'll talk to you back here soon. - The NFL on CBS streams live on Paramount+ all season long. Why Paramount+? 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Smylie Kaufman and Charlie Hulme cap off the Smylie Show FedEx Cup road trip with one final show from East Lake Golf Club previewing the final event of the PGA TOUR season, the Tour Championship.
