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It's not law enforcement now alleges the plot again months earlier with failed attempts using. Anceant? Natural poison. Ancient. Ancient. Ancient. Ancient. Ancient. Ancient. Ancient. Ancient. Ancient. Ancient. Ancient. Ancient. Ancient. You think of like with witches and stuff like that. Wow. It's just strange. Then they go to the most common one, and nothing else works. It's like, well, let's just use something. We already probably have. So they use natural poisons such as cerebrin from pong pong seeds, because who doesn't know that? And water hemlock. Okay. The pair allegedly ground up toxic pong pong seeds and laced brownies with the poison, sending Allen to the emergency room in late November. Court documents stated it should be noted that Marcia Allen sends Jones a photo message of what appears to be Harold Allen on November 26 in the photo. There's a half eaten brownie on a paper plate sitting on Harold's stomach. Harold became sick after eating the brownie and ended up in the emergency room the next day. In a text message to his daughter, Marcia Allen said, "I am irritated and can't sleep peacefully. I need this to be over. I wish it would reach its climax and be done. LOL. Jones. LOL. Jones. So let's leave replied. Agreed. Undeterred by his survival, they then tried to poison him with water hemlock in various foods again failing to end his life. Where Harold Allen did not succumb to hemlock poisoning, according to law enforcement, the woman received a second toxin on December 8th of 2022 and proceeded to administer it over four days. Hemlock was allegedly mixed into a bowl of chili on December 9th, a glass of soda on December 10th and a margarita on December 12th. He had Allen survived each attempt on December 13th of 2022 Jones allegedly turned to ethylene glycol, the primary component in anti freeze, which has a sweet taste, but his lethal insufficient doses. Seven days later, Harold Allen was dead. Prosecutors claim Jones effectively tortured him with every failed poisoning. The month prior, Marcia Allen's hometown in free town, a small community about 40 miles south of Bloomington was targeted in a break in burglary. Two men, Steve Andrew White, 29 and Matthew Nathaniel Kane, net neighbor, 28 were arrested for the crime. However, authorities alleged that the men neither planned nor acted alone. According to Jackson County Sheriff Rick Meyer, the burglary was carried out under the direction and with the assistance of Marcia's daughter, Ashley Jones, Marcia told police she suspected her daughter from the start as the burglars have the combination to her gun safe. A code only Jones was believed to know White had his own story to share with police. He told investigators that not only did Jones orchestrate the burglary, but she also revealed that her mother had poisoned Harold Allen to death. Marcia Allen denied the accusation and voluntarily handed over her cell phone to law enforcement. However, the device contained crucial evidence, text messages between Marcia and Ashley detailing their plans to murder Harold Allen through poisoning December, 2022, according to Sheriff Meyer. Apparently, she didn't realize that that stuff stays on your phone. A few weeks after Ashley Jones was arrested in early October of 23, police executed that search warrant at Marcia Allen's home later that same day authorities believe Marcia took her own life. Jones is now facing multiple charges, including murder and conspiracy to commit murder and his schedule for a trial in January of 2025. So the big question is, after all number one, how does the mom even get her daughter to go along with this? I can't imagine if my mom came to me wanting to kill my dad, I don't call the cops. >> So she goes along with it, she thinks she's gonna get some money as my guess. But then I'm wondering, and this will come out, I'm assuming in trial, but I'm wondering if the whole burglary thing, like she was trying to steal some money then from the mom. >> Yeah. >> So I don't know what the burglary was all about, but that's how much she loves her mom. >> She got some guys to break in her mom's house, still guns, I guess so she could sell them maybe. >> And you look at these guys, they don't, I was expecting something a little more rough. >> No, they look totally normal. >> They really do. >> The guy, Harold, looks like the nicest guy. >> Yeah. >> No, I don't know him, maybe he wasn't, but they weren't killing him because he was a horrible person. They were killing him because they wanted his money. >> Yeah, I mean, there's nothing in the story to really represent that it's about. >> Anything other than money, I mean, was there abuse or I mean, usually you'd think there's something. >> I've had so many articles on this, I kind of went down a rabbit hole. I couldn't because I was like, it doesn't totally make sense. She's married to him, so his retirements, her retirement. >> So you just wanted it now. >> That's all I can figure. >> Okay. >> Wow. >> And to get your daughter to go along with it? >> Yeah. >> What? And to be like, how about we try Hemlock? You know, there's got to be that digital evidence on a computer or their cell phones where they're like, great ways to kill somebody. Oh, Hemlock, that's a good one. I haven't thought about that. And my guess is they did that thinking it would be harder to trace to find Hemlock in one system. >> Except when you go back and look at your Google searches of like, what are difficult drugs to trace or poisons to trace? >> They bought them, I think they bought them online. So there's evidence of that. You bought Hemlock. It's just, I don't even, I don't, that's one I don't get, like, how does that conversation even come up? It's like, hey, Han, Ashley, I thought we could go out and have some lunch today. And at lunch, then she's like, well, I wanted to talk to you about something. I've been thinking about killing your stepfather. And I was wondering if maybe you'd like to help me poison him, you know? Maybe you can figure out what kind of poisons to you. >> My God, it sounds like a great idea, mom. That sounds lovely. >> Thanks. >> And then we'll get that retirement money and then maybe I'll give you some of that. >> Can we get the chips in case so at lunch, though? >> Absolutely. >> Okay, sounds like a question. >> I'm buying. >> That's right. >> All right, true crime addicts, let's cut the crap, your knee deep in the gory details of your favorite podcast, when suddenly a commercial hits like a bad meal. Seriously? You deserve better. 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