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from Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach at all points in between an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porsche show. I don't think Good morning. Welcome to the Jeff Porsche show enough and talk 10065. Thank you very much for listening on this Friday, Friday. It's finally Friday broadcasting in Birmingham today. The guest hosting duties continue as as a as a I don't know, seven hours of radio a day. If I send a little bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, that's why I come up on today's program from Alabama Daily News. Todd Stacey has about 30 minutes in the 10 o'clock hour. We'll hear from Jerry Carl, our congressman here in the first congressional district. I love the clock. You're gonna stay tuned. Tommy Tumbler. We talked a lot about him yesterday. And what what are his plans for the the upcoming election cycle beyond the beyond the 2024 because tomorrow will be up at 26. And we'll find that out. So you'll want to stay tuned for that. And finally, our returning champion state senator Chris Elliot. So please stick around for that as well. Once you get two five one three four three zero one zero six. That's the text line. It's how we communicate on this program. So please, by all means utilize the text line. Let's see the the there's kind of continues a little bit of 100 Biden here. You know, I still think despite the denial that you'll see a pardon from Joe Biden, but that remains to be seen. Also, in addition to that, these are the context remarks, JD Vance, the AP had to walk them back a little bit about school shootings, being a fact of life. They really, really butchered that up to suit their narrative. That's playing the sort of the national scene a silver continues to give like Donald Trump a 60% chance to win the electoral college. You're like, who the hell's Nate silver? But he was kind of, he was like one of the whiz kids back in the day. So such as that is. But he doesn't update every day, but it's really, really kind of fascinating how that is all playing out. And last, but well, not even last, but let's, and I, I wish I understood this a lot better, but my phone's been blowing up today. And the departure or the the drama, let's call it drama, because that's what it, I think probably really is. But the kid Davis the VA director. And we were getting a little bit of this yesterday, during the program, very strongly worded letter from Governor Ivy, dispatching, if you will, the state VA director, and board member. Um, well, asked for the resignation of the kid Davis and then ultimately, I assume that's the writing on the wall. And there's a few between Davis and the mental health commissioner carefully balls well. It was I was listed to Rob Holbert on the morning show yesterday kind of talking about this weird ethics complaint. And what's going on there? Um, I'll tell you this, it's been some time. So my father died at 2017. And he served in the army and in the air force and was entitled to a lot of the benefits that come with serving. And I got to tell you that my my best experience was state government. And I've had a lot. But aside from like roaming the halls of the capital legislature, but but just just as a civilian out, uh, you know, this includes the DMV, this includes, uh, whatever else you do. You're good. You need from the state. It was the it was veterans affairs. By far, I mean, very, very, very helpful and check it and do a courtesy calls. I mean, uh, I found that to be the probably one of the best experiences in all my years dealing with the government to be honest. I don't know if it's still that way. I don't know. This is, um, this seems like so very, very petty and a bad look for everybody all around. But, uh, I'm curious here any takes that you may have two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six on the text line. Let me know. And I'll do my best to, uh, respond to whatever it is, uh, that is on your mind. The school shooting in Georgia, let's talk about that. So the 14 year old Colt Gray, they have him in custody. He's going to be tried. But they also have charged his father, uh, manslaughter, murder and child cruelty, accused of providing an AR 15 style rifle used in the shooting as a Christmas gift. This is like, can you imagine being a father and your, your child doing something like this? I mean, it's, it's kind of be, it's just horrifying. Bad parenting. Uh, how much criminal liability do the parents have here? Are just the father have? Did the father know that his son was capable of this? Is this something, even if you prove it at a court of a law, second degree murder, manslaughter. I mean, maybe there's a civil liability, but a criminal liability. Do we charge relatives of criminals for crime, particularly parents? Is that something we do in this country? Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. That's a tough one. And, um, I don't know, I will stand to test, uh, the criminal justice system in Georgia. Um, some other things going on, uh, back to national politics real quick. There's a budget deadline looming at the beginning of October. That's just like, oh, there's like a budget deadline. It seems like every week, the government might shut down and, uh, our owners may not get there. And, you know, their entitlement benefits or whatever, you know, that's like always the fear. But, but as far as I could tell, that we ever had this one this close to a presidential election. Where is something like this, this close to a presidential election? And what would happen if the government shut down while the presidential candidates are campaigning? I don't think you could tie Donald Trump as close to Congress as you can. Kamal Harris, he's the president of the Senate. Uh, it's probably not a good look for either side. And the media will blame Republicans at the house. But the one thing I would say, and I think this is important, like, what about this, like Democrats control the White House and the, and the Senate two thirds of the government, you got to blame Republicans, but they always blame Republicans. And they always get away with it. Republicans always cave. What are still spy Republicans? And I say that facetiously. Well, what will they do next month? How will they handle this? And this is like the insider beltway discussion now, the Freedom Caucus, the House Freedom Caucus is insisting on we're going to talk about this with, uh, Senator Tupper, real to that language we put it to the save act of the way, including the save act in the budget. Well, and I will say this too. The, uh, we'll talk to some Jerry Carl coming up. Jerry Carl, a unique perspective, kind of a lame dot congressman. Well, he is a lame dot congressman, but I mean, he's a, he's more, um, out liberty, I would say, to say, to give us kind of a, a more honest take and perhaps a less political take. Well, I, I'm not sure what that means. I'm a little worried about that. I know how the media acted that will blame Republicans. However, this is an unusual new cycle nationally is it's all about a presidential race. And if people are actually paying attention, stick with me here is it'll be October will be a month out of a national presidential election where people start paying attention. And people are really paying attention. How, how will they, how will they respond? Well, will they buy into the media narrative that it's just always just dumb Republicans or whatever. It's democracy and Republicans hate democracy. I mean, will the, the, the usual, uh, bumper, sticker slogans work. And I don't know. But, uh, we'll see if Republicans, uh, probably what will happen to a lot of Republicans will. Okay. They, they don't want to deal with it. They got their own elections in the house. Even if they're not in danger of losing their elections. All right, all they, they will have to, they will struggle with it and just take the path at least resistance. So we'll, we'll get into that as the program continues. Um, we'll see here beyond, uh, we got Hunter, we got Nate Silver, very more predicting civil unrest that Trump wins. I said that in a Montgomery Chamber of Commerce breakfast yesterday morning. But we got civil unrest with Donald Trump on the first time. I have any amount sitting there. So, uh, picture it. It's, uh, whatever, January 20, 2017. And I'm on the risers in front of the White House. Uh, they, uh, we were giving out a, you know, press credentials and just happened to be at the 2017 inauguration of Trump. So watch it from way, way, far the actual swearing in, but the parade, we were right there when they came down Pennsylvania Avenue to the White House. And behind me are, you know, they closed off a big section of Washington, DC of Pennsylvania Avenue. You had to go through a perimeter. There were gates up. It was a very, very secure outside this perimeter. You hear police sirens, you hear fire trucks, you hear glass breaking. And they down, they really downplayed inauguration day, 2017. And what was going on outside of the actual inauguration ceremonies. text, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, one, merit, back this is the Jeff for showing up in talk one, oh, six, five. [Music] [Music] Welcome back to the Jeff Moore show of the talk one, oh, six, five. Thanks for staying with us on this Friday morning broadcasting here in Shelby County today. Uh, well, I guess it's the Pelham Bureau and I've, uh, now have, uh, established a presence here. So I can always do a show, uh, when needed, uh, me and the editor, chief of 18, 19 news, 18, 19 news.com, you got to get around the state a whole lot. And, uh, sometimes it helps to have a little places you could do this radio show. Uh, still to come in the next segment, Alabama Daily News is Todd Stacy. So stay right where you are. Uh, once again, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, we get to, uh, if we have any, uh, some of your text messages. Uh, see, when the F, well, when the FBI comes and asks you and your son about a threatened shooting claim, yeah, you don't give him a rifle. Fair enough. Um, but still it's, uh, I, uh, I don't know. A lot of people are suspicious of the FBI. The FBI told us the Hunter, my laptop wasn't real. They also just told us that, uh, Donald Trump's the tip to the assassination wasn't political. Do you think, I mean, Maximus, do you think we have to live and die about what the FBI says? Uh, I'm not, I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I just, it seems a little un-American to charge parents for their son's crime. I think there may be a civil liability. I am just, I, I think it's a little aggressive on the criminal liability. Pete, the FBI investigating his kitty year ago for online threats. The father knew. Let me go back to what I said. Uh, Pat, I would have slightly different thoughts if his son had just stalled a gun and done this. None of this man bought the 14 year old weapon and clearly didn't keep it locked away from him until they were together. You said, yeah, I think there's some negligence here, but murder, a murder charge. You guys think about how serious that is. I, that you want to get him for, uh, uh, the, the, the child to collect charges or whatever, but murder. This seems like a real high bar and a slippery slope because what's next? And, you know, like, when they charged the father, I was, you know, as I, for some reason, whatever reason, I don't know why I was reading his Joyce Vance's Twitter feed, which is just like constant source of frustration for me. I was reading comments and, and you see where this goes. Well, next we're, we'll get the parents. Then we'll get the, the gun shop that stole, that sold the, uh, the gun to the dad. Then we'll get the gun manufacturer. Then we'll go out to the NRA. Oh, you see where this goes? Well, like I said, you want to go out there for civil liability. I think you got to keep a criminal liability. They want to lock the dad up. They didn't, they didn't, you know, uh, how many degrees of separation are there in something like this? Uh, this for doorman, the parents do have a responsibility to secure their weapons from a minor in the house, even if it was a gift. I don't see how they could charge a 14 year old's adult and also say the parent is responsible. That's true. I, I just think you've got kind of a zealous prosecutor there in Gwynette County. Our oil is a Barrow County, whatever it is. Max, it was so held though, it's just hinky. Obviously in this case, they were right. By the texture, the father's like responsibility resulted in the deaths. This is murder. It's not, I mean, it's second degree murder. You got to put this man away. For that, this is the country we want to live in. Michael, I think charging the parent is a bit of a can of worms. Imagine how much a preacher would be locked up with the supplied across the board. Well, this is, I mean, this would be a precedent, guys. And how far do you apply this precedent? Where do you draw the line? I mean, this is direction you want to go in. It's a country. Let's have a talk about it. 2, 5, 1, 3, 4, 3, 0, 1, 0, 6, we'll be right back. This is the Jeff Moore show it up and talk about 0, 6, 5. [Music] back to the Jeff Moore show it. If I'm talking about 0, 6, 5, they should stay with us on this Friday morning. So they come on the program. We're loaded up here in about an hour. We'll hear from Congress from Jerry Carl in that 11 o'clock hour, US Senator Tommy Tuberville. And then we'll close out the week with our returning champion state senator, Chris Elliott. So please stay tuned for that. Joining us now on the line, he is our, what are our Friday rigors? Always appreciative of his time from Alabama Daily News Todd Stacy. Todd, how are you doing? I'm good, Jeff. How are you? Doing well, doing well. Thanks for making time. Well, help me make sense of it. I don't really understand this. Well, I saw the letter, very, very, um, uh, strongly worded from the governor, but asking the commissioner, the veteran affairs, uh, to, uh, uh, Davis to step aside and, and then a board member there. Well, what, why are we to make of all this? Yeah, well, the biggest takeaway is that it, it never needed to come to this. It never needed, it was completely unnecessary. Um, obviously, if you go back to the legislative session, really even in the last year, the Department of Veterans Affairs has been you know, in dispute with the Department of Mental Health over funds. Um, opioid settlement funds, also some federal, uh, ARPA funds, um, and, you know, it, it involved, it involved mobile because one of the board members of the Veterans Affairs, uh, board, uh, John Kilpatrick runs a vet clinic, a mental health clinic there, a mobile vet's recover clinic. Uh, and he wanted some funds for his clinic. Um, the mental health department did not agree with that. They didn't think that the, um, right authorizations were there, the right accountability provisions and all that kind of stuff. And so they disagreed. Can Davis turns around in 1000 ethics complaint, uh, the pretty serious stuff. Um, it, and those are supposed to be a secret. They're supposed to be, you know, non-public, but that got leaked a first link out. Um, we initially got a copy as well. And it was just this. It was called frivolous. It was, it was, it was non, uh, kind of a non-starter, but to have an agency, attack another agency like they did, um, I think was a bridge to far for the governor. And you saw also out loud in her letter, there were some, um, mishandling of, uh, of funds, you know, awful funds, opioid funds, things like that. And so I think it's, you know, partially the governor sending a message saying this can't, this is not going to be tolerated. We need to start over with Veterans Affairs and talking to folks, you know, that with knowledge of some of all this, they say this, this isn't really new. There's been some frustrations with Kent Davis, um, for a long time. And so, um, but I did, I was, I was surprised to see it get raised to this level, to ask for his resignation. She also removed John Kilpatrick from the Veterans Affairs board. She has the authority to do that. So it's only a matter of time before Kent Davis goes, right? I mean, he did not resign as a five o'clock. That was her request, you know, please resign as, as a five o'clock, then you can finish out the month. Um, you know, she has the power to continue to remove board members and reappoint board members to the point where, you know, they can fire him. So it's only a matter of time I expect we'll see something either today or in the near future. And we haven't seen Governor Ivy do this. I don't know what are the time to the early childhood education, secretary. Uh, she dispatched a very kind of a similar public way. This isn't like standard operating procedure, is it? No, it's pretty rare. And that's, I think that's why we're talking about it. You know, seeing some woke ideology kind of stuff. Uh, yeah, Ivy showed her the door. Um, that was a lot cleaner because she had the power to do that immediately. This isn't getting a little messy. This has been going on for two weeks now or a better part of a month. And, and, um, so we'll see what happens. I, again, there's no way this ends well for Kent Davis. I hate it for him. I've known Kent a while and he's a good guy and he really cares about veterans and, um, especially the issue of veteran suicide, but there's a way to do things. There's a way to go about your work. And this ethics complaint never made sense to me. I don't, it sounded almost like he got bullied into it by his board members. Um, one of which, you know, had some money on the line, right? That never made sense to me. How can you run a vet's clinic beyond the board of the veteran affairs? You know, you know, department and then also try to use that department to get state and federal funding to, to your facility that that has ethical concerns to me, not, not the, you know, normal, um, you know, business of a state agency. So it never made sense to me. And, and, and here we're seeing it obviously really angered the governor to the point where she's calling for his head. Now a lot of listeners in our area, you mentioned that the mobile connection. I mean, they are just, they're not happy with the way this is kind of falling out. I mean, oh, I mean, what happens from here? Uh, everything seems kind of in flux. I wonder what the department of veterans affairs looks like going forward here in this state. Yeah, and that's, that's the bigger issue. I've heard for a while now, but there's been some concerns about the veterans affairs. A department, how it interacts with other departments. It is kind of, it's, it's unique in that, like you said, it's not a cabinet agency. It's its own board and that comes with problems. Like I said, you know, you got to be careful who sits on boards and things like that. And I think you may see a reorganization of the department and the board, you know, I guess you're having Senator Elliott on the show later today. They have this, you know, he and Senator Gudger have this effort to really revamp the, a lot of boards and commissions and how that process works and, and, you know, going back, you know, fixing some problems, I wouldn't be surprised to see veterans affairs put into that process to modernize it, to revamp it to where it actually works a lot better and avoid these kind of problems. I mean, why, why isn't the veterans affairs commissioner a member of the cabinet, right? Why, that doesn't make sense to me? Why, why shouldn't that be, you know, a direct accountability to the governor? So, you know, I do think you're going to see some, some reforms of that department. Speaking of boards, Todd, and I don't know, like, I, like, another one of these things that just kind of shows up on the radar, and you're not really sure the pharmacy board. And there's a lot of noise surrounding that. Um, one of them, talk about messy. Yeah, one of the Birmingham TV stations did a just an absolute like, uh, I, uh, city of gold up there, did a job on that and really looked into it. And I, I think this is, uh, this is another one of those, and we bring up Senator Elliott and these boards, like, we keep having these problems, don't we? Yeah. And, um, I'm really, um, I'm really curious to see what he wants to say about this, because it's one of those parts of state government that, you know, you know, by the legislature, you know, about the governor or all the constitutional officers. That's what's, you know, on the radio, on TV and the newspaper, but these boards and commissions, um, most of them appointed, you know, unelected, are run a significant amount of state government, especially when it comes to licensing for professions like pharmacy. Um, and so they've kind of gone under the radar for decades and it all kind of started coming out a couple of years ago, and we did some reporting on this lawsuit that happened because it, you know, became like this cottage industry for lobbyists to, to be, you know, executive directors of these boards and kind of a pretty good cash cow. And all of a sudden it started coming out and Senator Elliott's and Senator Dodger started exposing a lot of this stuff. So I think it's important. I think, you know, our job in the media is to expose some of this stuff to really talk about it. And again, it's not the most, um, forward leaning part of state government. You don't see it in the newspaper all the time, but it's, it affects a lot of people. It affects livelihoods. And so I think we do need to get into it. And I hope, uh, Senator Elliott will bring his bill back this year and, and I work with, you know, the House and Senate to, to, to really bring this issue up and figure out a way forward. Well, and I know you spend a lot of time in those hallways tied and I, you know, I did last year and probably will continue to for the stable future, but that was to talk like, uh, the chatter among a lot of the lobbyists. It was essentially this just play defense and stopping any effort to do anything with these boards and, and, and shutting these things down and, and, and like, I was kind of surprised because like you and I would talk about whatever the news of the day was, be it gambling school choice or whatever, you know, flashy topic was out there. And then you'd be sitting there and just kind of minding your own business. And you over here, the conversation, like it's, it's all about shutting this down in committee or trying to get this bill put to the side here. How much effort and energy by a lot of the lobbyists there are to kind of maintain the status quo. Oh, yeah. That's, that's every year. I mean, that's, and almost every issue. That's, that's what they're paid to do. A lot of that's protecting turf. You know, if you've got some, you know, skin in the game on a certain border commission, yeah, of course you're going to resist any kind of reform. And, and remember, this was kind of a new concept this past year, a very lengthy bill that they got introduced toward the end. So nobody had any expectations that it was going to pass. And it is something this significant, something this big, it takes a couple of years to three years to actually pass. And that's, that's good. That's a good thing. So that's why, you know, in the off season, you work behind the scenes, but the issue, the problem has only gotten worse. It's only been exposed to a higher degree. And so I think there's probably more appetite in the legislature to do a lot of reforms to the boards and commissions. And again, it's, it usually takes a couple of years for lawmakers to be able to digest something like that. And think about everything the legislature did last year, they were this past year, they were not going to bite off another huge issue like this. But I do think there's an opportunity to address it in this next session. I really hope they do. Well, you know, it kind of building on that point about what goes on in the hallways here, I, you know, this is just an observation. I finally like kind of put it together. How much of this is just playing defense, right? And, you know, the countdown, the signing die. It's like everybody's kind of pins and needles while the legislature's in session. Sure, there are people promoting or trying to get their own legislation or whatever through their, their, you know, pet project, et cetera. You see that. But so much of what goes on in Alabama is kind of maintaining the system we have. And that's sort of the job of a lot of these lobbyists, I think, is kind of dissuading lawmakers from getting too, too proactive, if you know what I mean. Well, I mean, one person's proactive was another person's bad deal, right? So I mean, but you're right. And that much of the lobbying that goes on, I would say a large majority of the lobbying that goes on is defense killing legislation. They don't want to pass or delaying it or or amending it or, you know, whatever. That's just, that's just part of it. But it's, it's only out of the beholder. I mean, there are, there are bad bills that get introduced every year, and it's somebody's job to stop them. But somebody believed in that bill, you know, somebody thought it was a good idea. That's just part of the process. Well, it's kind of fun. It's kind of funny to watch because like people just get so worn out and you, you know, you probably if I start talking about it, you'll start to feel it, that fatigue. Once you get to the last couple of weeks, man, just make it in, I am so tired of this place. And, you know, people think, I mean, the public probably thinks they go up there and they pass a bunch of laws and bills and spending and all that. And they do. But so much of what goes on in that town, particularly in that building, it's just about stopping things. Right. It's just, and you hear this discussion all the time, just just trying to get this shut down. I mean, if you could kill it in a committee, that's going to make the rest of your month a lot easier. Right. That's always like, it's, it's fascinating to watch that. Yeah, but I just wouldn't characterize it all as, as negative. A lot of what gets killed is should get killed. All right. Yeah, it's negative at all. But I just, yeah, it's, it's like the, the matter of what your business has conducted, you go in and they are really like, you probably don't think of it that way, or at least I never did, that so much of what they do is just, it's like you said, there's a lot more defense going on than people realize. Yeah, it looks like it's interesting. It works a lot better than Congress. They, you know, people come with their local bills. A lot of it is the budget that they pass over you. That's a significant part of it. There's always going to be a gambling discussion or what not. But if you, I encourage folks to come and spend a little time on the government, come up and meet your, your representatives and watch the debate a little bit. So much goes on behind the scenes. It's actually pretty bipartisan most of the time because they're talking about budgets and a big ticket issues. But you're right. A lot of energy gets, it goes into protecting turf, killing bad bills. And that's just, that's why we just get paid the big bucks. Yeah, hardly any of it is Republican versus Democratic. That's such an antiquated notion when you think about state government, that it is real. A lot of people would, a lot of people would like people to think that, but it's really not. It's 90% that part of that. No, don't get me wrong. It's not completely devoid of that. But so much of it is just turf and it's not even geographic in some regards. It's just kind of where you are on certain things. Todd, before I let you go, a folks want to find you online, sign up for your newsletter, and they want to know what you got on Capitol Journal, please let them know. Yeah, you want to sign up for the newsletter? It's a l daily news.com. You can enter your name and your email. And right there on the website, you'll be on the list. And yes, Capitol Journal is tonight. We've got Attorney General Steve Marshall. We talk about the crime issue and a lot of what's going on with that, cracking down on crime. I'm talking with Jack Hawkins, Dr. Jack Hawkins, Chancellor of Troy University, and now says retirement earlier this week. So really looking forward to that conversation. And Kirk Fulford, he's the chief budget officer in the legislature. A lot of budget talk going on right now. The revenue isn't what it has been the last couple of years. So a really good episode, Capitol Journal tonight, Alabama Public Television at 730. Y'all check that out. Todd as always, we appreciate it. All right, Jeff. All right, we got you to break here. We'll be right back. This is the Jet Force show on F.M. Talk one oh six five before you take this. Yeah. I'm a son. I'm not the new thing. I'm walking away from trouble. You can. It won't be in your week if you turn the other cheek. I hope you're old enough to understand. Son, you don't have to fight to be your man. Welcome back to the jet board. Show it up and talk. One oh six five. They just stay with us on this Friday morning. Two five one three four three zero one zero six. That's how you get in touch of me, your show host. So please keep the text coming. Jerry Carl code up in the next hour and 11 o'clock hour Tommy Tuberville and Senator Elliot. So please stay right where you are. Sean Alabama versus Auburn hockey tonight at the Pelham Civic Center, the Iron Cup, just FYI. I didn't even know Auburn had a hockey team. My next destination is the planes for the Auburn cow game. So I don't know if it's a it'll be a long day, Sean, because after this more radio and I don't know it's it's hard to it's hard. I want to do anything but want to go home and sleep to be honest, grab a bite and then hit home. Mr. plot, a friend of mine bought his son of BB gift Christmas. He discussed all the safety rules and to make shift ranges and backyard is not allowed to touch to get a list of father was with him two days later, he shot his mother in the butt with it. Gene, you will learn that you are responsible as a parent for your children's behavior. Good and bad 14 year old is a minor. Well, I tell you what though, in our environment, Gene, and you you probably agree with this, but like the political environment and the left in this country being so so hell bit, so anti gun anti firearm. I think that this I think that this is tainted this view that we need to charge to parents. This aggressive pursuit of parental responsibility here is tainted in the eyes of the left because they they are just anti gun. Now, if it was something like your son, you give your son a car and he goes out and severe cure homicide or something. Do you charge the parent? I mean, I guess it depends on circumstances. Let's get a break here. I'll be right back. This is if you talk what I was to try from Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach at all points in between an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porsche show. I don't think this way. Welcome back to the Jeff Porsche show on F and Tuck 10065. They should be with us on this Friday morning, two five one three four three zero one zero six. That's how you get touched with the show. If you so choose coming up on the program about 30 minutes from now, Jerry Carl. Currently the congressman from the first congressional district. Also an 11 o'clock hour kicking off with Tommy Tumbrel. Currently our senior US Senator and then finally, say Senator Chris Elliott represents the lower portion or the southern portion of Baldwin County. He is my state senator and he is also this program's returning champions. So he'll be with us in the 11 o'clock hour. Text slide two five one three four three zero one zero six. That's where you get touched with the program. You text me and we got a few to get to here. Uh, we already did that one Pete. Holy buckets. That's every state agency. Who do you think run state middle health care? Uh, Ricky sends me that didn't go through whatever it was, Ricky. Terry, what I heard the shooter left school got the gun and came back. How was he not missed? How did he get the gun into the school? What kind of security did they have to just let someone enter the school of the God? If we were charging the father, maybe some school officials need to be looked at or at negligence charges for the lack of security. Are like what prompted him? Was he bullied? Do we, do we charge the bully to? You see, like how did, where does this, where's the ultimate destination here? Now, I mean, I'm fine with some kind of civil liability and that could be proven in a quarrel, but criminal is a far different thing. And then this is, I mean, this is what you guys want. I just, I'd be a little troubled by that. I don't think it's a good idea. Maybe I'm way off base here and you could just, uh, maybe that's just the civil libertarian in me or something. But criminal liability. Hey, in the FBI, we're going around asking questions about this kid. Did he, is it a failure? The FBI? Could the FBI have prevented this? Maybe we need to charge the criminal, I mean, some criminality to the FBI too. The agent for not, uh, I, I don't know. Like, and, but, but what this gets away from, and I know he's 14. And if they charge him in early texture, said they charge him with an adult, then it becomes a little more problematic to charge his father. Now this is father was like, okay, son, here's the gun. Go kill the big, big, bad bully or whatever. Then maybe there's some criminality there. We don't know that. I guess that's a possibility. But I'm telling you guys, you need to be real careful here, especially in this environment when the government seems to be very anti-second amendment, very anti-firearm. And they're looking for a bunch of different ways to go after guns in this country. They're looking for all these different means and avenues and blue poles or, or whatever it takes. Uh, they've touched last year. They questioned the father and son dismissed for lack of evidence that the father lost a kid. Have a gun. Father's truly responsible. His signal needs to go out to all the parents. Well, they said maybe there should be some civil responsibility. Maybe he needs to have punitive damages, but a murder charge? Like how serious? Incarceration, a criminal record? Was it criminal? Maybe he's an accomplice, but, but, but this is a murder charge. Todd, could you imagine the government would be if citizens did not have firearms? There's a lot of people in this country. I mean, a lot of, especially a lot, I mean, they would, they would like to criminalize gun ownership. And this is a step in that direction. But if we're going to apply the standard, before going to break, like the vehicular homicide, uh, let's say you have a kid, he's got a bunch of speedy tickets, reckless driving charges, whatever. And then you go out, buy him a new car that he goes and goes out and kills somebody. And then I didn't, then maybe there's a discussion to be had there. How much the pet, if daddy buys him a new car, how much is the dad responsible? Like, think about this, though, the precedent here. Uh, and a textured dad, Baldy gave him the son in AR for a present. Both are being held without Bell. I mean, this is clearly a controversial move by the Georgia prosecutors, or we wouldn't be talking about it. Sean, they're going to charge all the drug companies for all the SSRIs he was certainly most certainly on. Substitute the murder weapon for anything other than a gun and the charges against the father seem ridiculous. There is a, like a do something crowd whenever something like this happens. We got to do something. We have to do something to stop. And I'm not, I'm not trying to be as callous to not acknowledge there were four people killed and a bunch of people shot. But we're going to charge the father. And now he's facing 180 years of prison. Is a, uh, you know, that's, that's pretty daunting. I mean, this, this, this could be a game changing kind of move. But remember this, a lot of us motivating, a lot of this cheerleading is going on here that yeah, you get that dad, because we don't think the dad should be able to get their kids guns anyway. It's all coming from the left. If we're going to start charging parents, I mean, let's take a step further. Let's, uh, let's look at all the child neglected, all the, I mean, look around the state of Alabama and all the criminal activity by minors. If, uh, if little Johnny goes, it holds up a liquor store because he's hungry and wants money and this, because mommy isn't feeding him to a charge to mom with robbery. We played a slippery slope here. This is just a society you want to kind of criminal justice, you want in America. Let's go, let's go. And it actually appears to be held accountable. Lock the weapons up or go to prison. Well, but I think we have a civil, we have a civil justice system that that's where you settle these matters, not, not the criminal. But this, I mean, it's the same way they did with Alex Jones. They, they ruined him for what he said about Sandy Hook or ruined the dad. Get as much money as you can. I mean, that, that's where you get your culpability. I think in this situation. Damn Yankee. It's about time they started charging parents for crash committed by children and parents need to be responsible to some degree. All right. I mean, the parents do need to be responsible, but we're so reluctant to go after parents in this society. We used to shame parents didn't take care of their kids properly, right? We used to say, Hey, single mom, I mean, that's not the right way to raise a kid. You know, single parent family, well, plenty of mom trees here, kids, and they turned out perfectly fine. Oh, no. But we, we like jumped the shark here and we go after the dad criminally. Well, let's let's apply the standard universally. Let's get back to the way things used to be and maybe you have less of these situations or the, the, the teenager after playing some halo or whatever decides he could go do that at his school and get them the kids he doesn't like. Uh, but he had guns when I was younger than 14 and plenty like me and do and did. The vast majority of probably you file is just not the weapon. It's a social and cultural issue. Social media sensationalizes everyone's life and it affects some younger people and they snap mentally for a lack of a better term. This is, I don't, I don't know about the second part of that, but I, I think social and cultural issues and the way society used to kind of operate. I mean, there was a built in self correcting mechanism for bad parents, but we were told, well, that that's not nice. That's insensitive. And instead we are trying to replace it with the, the government, which is the criminal justice system. Um, Grant says exactly 100% on any textures so we can blame cell phones are up taking suicides, parents by the cell phones. Truly it starts in the home teaching kids the facts of life. But you used to be some shame in being a terrible bad parent, right? There used to be a lot of shame. And we have taken the shame away. We have taken the shame away. Uh, you know, we, we give government handouts and the more kids you have, the more handouts you get. It's a, it's an upside down system. Okay, which is fine, but now you want to turn that system back the other way and go after a parent criminally, but, but I think it's more has to do with the gun issue. The second amendment and it's just idea that guns should be a privilege, not a right. It's a philosophical belief about firearms and gun control, which is motivating a lot of what we're seeing. But the father in Georgia being charged, this applies elsewhere. Imagine how many parents know their kids are in Creighton, our dealing drugs or parents in Montgomery know that the kids are gangbagging. You literally lock up 25% of the black community. I agree with you. Play it all universally. That's from Jim. To all of the parents of the shooters in Chicago. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, that's the tech slide. But like, like, it's, it's like there's a knee jerk here and I get it. Like, you know, this, this dad was probably not a, the best father of the year, a biting stretch of the imagination. It should never have given his kid an AR rifle. But charging him criminally and holding him responsible for what his child did, unless, unless you could show in a quarter wall that you could prove that the dad said, okay, they're being mean to you go kill them with this gun. We're, we're opening up a lot of possibilities here when this becomes the norm. And it's not like this hasn't been done before. We'll be right back. This is F.M. Talk when those six arrived. It all, when there was no, like a rhinestone cowboy, riding down on a horse set of stars playing the rodeo, like a rhinestone cowboy. We're back to the Jeff Moore show and up and talk with us. Six, five, thank you for staying with us on this Friday morning. 2513430106. Shoot us a text to listen to what's on your mind. Good day, Jeff. Looks like the majority of your 23 listeners disagree with you on the father. How about it? The father filled out a fake absentee ballot for his son. Maybe the gas chamber question. Well, it's 23 more listeners than you have. Well, you fantasize over the Sears catalog at your mama's house. But, obviously, the, the, the crimes and the circumstances are a little different here. Oh, let's see here. Grant, why did the kid stole a gasoline truck and used that as his weapon of choice? Would you charge a father to teach him how to drive a stick shift transmission vehicle? This can get sideways quickly. Well, well, I think Grant, the difference would be, let's let's stick with your premise. He stole a, let's say he stole the gasoline truck. Let's say the father taught him how to steal a gasoline truck or supplied him with the tools to hot wire gasoline truck, whatever. Then that's where I guess the liability comes in. But, but is it criminal? Maybe because that's criminal behavior, but just buying your son a firearm. Is that criminal? Well, let's stick to the crime here. Well, he should have known the FBI came to their house, but the FBI didn't charge him with any crime. They just said, hey, keep an eye on your kid. Is that, is that to do standard when the FBI tells you to do something? And if you don't do it, then we'll charge you with the crime. Are, are we all equal under the eyes of the law buying your kid a, a firearm is a now a criminal activity if he uses it improperly? Ricky, your texts aren't coming through and you're definitely not going to be topical. Tuscers, should we charge the government for the murders by illegal aliens allowed in the country? Let me see where this goes though, right? If, if, if, if a leads to action B, then is a, is a illegal? And, uh, that's a sort of idea. Look, I get it. I mean, it's emotional. This should have never happened. The father is in part responsible, but is, is it criminal? Do you want to use a criminal justice system in this way? Because all these examples everybody's offering on the text line that they become, they get into play. Now, I guess it's been done before. I mean, they, they have gone after the parents. But let's, let's remember this here that a lot of what's driving this, then just take yourself, whether you're for charging daddy or not, take yourself out of it for a moment and look at when you watch the news coverage of it and the cheerleading that's going on by some of the left leaning media, but especially some of these likes, you know, uh, that a legal analyst that are on MSNBC or wherever. Now that they're ultimately goal here is, it's very anti second amendment, anti firearm. They want, they don't want you to have a gun. See where that, that's what they want. They want to criminalize gun ownership. That is the, that is the destination, the ideal destination. That is where they want to take this. You know, they're, they're heading on the pathway here and they're being cheered on by a lot of you under the eye. I mean, the personal responsibility, parental responsibility premise is fine. But they're, their motivations are way, way different than yours. And this is, this is where this goes. Grant sideways fast, like Nazi Germany. By the way, I had a brother at 15th sentence for murder in Alabama. And he did 20 years. I know a little about the subject. My dad was at charge and my brother had used two firearms that belonged to my father. And there was a safe in the house. He stole the key and got access at 15. He killed his own mother, used a rifle and a handgun. As Paul, he'll tell you, it's also sad yesterday or today the pain goes away. Sorry to hear that, Grant. Let's get a break here. I'll be right back. This is F.F. Talk one of six, five. ♪ And in one day, a wealthy customer of the Indian Lake ♪ ♪ Eat the girl so far away ♪ ♪ Then he cried just saw the Nashville and he turned that car around ♪ He said, this is where you get off, boy, because I'm going back to Alabama. As I stepped out of that Cadillac, I said, Mr. Minifang's, he said, you don't have to call me, Mr. Mr. The whole world called behind. He said, look about to the Jeff Moore shoulder. If I talk, well, no, six, five, thank you for staying with us on this Friday morning broadcasting in Birmingham today, four more hours of radio after this wraps up. So prayers are appreciated coming up on the program still about 30 minutes from now. U.S. Senator Tommy Tuberville making a surprise appearance on the program. And then we'll wrap it up with our returning champion state senator Chris Elli. It's a police stick around for that. But joining us now is the guest of honor here. Always appreciative of his time. Our congressman here in the first congressional district, Jerry Carl. Congressman, good morning, aren't you? Good morning, Jeff. I'm fantastic. I hope you're well and hope it's raining in Birmingham to talk. It's raining here. That's a little overcast. But yeah, it is maybe not the most ideal circumstances, but I hope it clears out of here before tomorrow. I don't you know, we needed in my house. So you just send it all to my house for a while. I'm good with it. Well, I'll start here. We're going to get into this with Senator Tuberville too. But this this budget deadline looming and it is such a strange timing. You know, a month out from an election. What do you hear in? I hear some of your colleagues want to kind of add the save act as a rider and some aren't really crazy about that idea. Where are we as of today? I was forced to say that we passed it. It's a good bill. I'm for it. We passed it and it's at the Senate and it died at the Senate. So what they're wanting to do is add it on with the CR. So they have to the Senate either has to deliberately strip it out. The Democrats will have to deliberately strip it out of the CR and are a continuous resolution and are voted through, which we know they're going to vote through. So the real question is, is once they strip it out and it comes back to us to vote on again before it moves back to the to the president. So it's going to be a lot of politics and moving back and forth. Some of the stuff I found interesting, you know, the beginning of the 119th Congress, we negotiated with Freedom Caucus Group and they weren't individual bills voted on. They didn't want any of these packages put together. But here we are going into the final days and they're trying to put things together as a package. So we're going just the opposite of what we had negotiated on. But I don't look for it to to be exactly the way we're talking about it right now. The appropriations side, we've had it ready. We hit our deadline. We've got all 12 packages put together. We can't get some of those across the floor. Some of our on colleagues don't want to vote for it. So it limits us because we're not going to get any help from the Democrats. So what will happen is we're going to offer a bill up. If it doesn't pass, we'll go into a shutdown, which I don't see that happening a shutdown. I think they'll come up. There's nobody wants to shut down right before election. It was planned to be right before the election. I know you say it may be an interesting time to have it come up. This is the way it was planned back in January and February, which got advanced on, I think, until May. I know I got my months mixed up there. But it was planned to be a month out to put pressure on everybody to vote for it. So it's well thought out. Now, does it work or not? I really don't know. I'm for it. It will move it. It basically will move it to March of 2025, which should Trump win. Trump will have a voice in the rewriting of it and some changing in it, which I think would be a great thing for any administration coming in, which I truly believe is going to be Donald Trump. But it'll get can to get kicked down the road and basically we'll deal with the same budget that we had last year minus 1%. So you don't I mean, you don't think the shutdown will happen. They're just not that because my fear is this, Congressman, that I mean, Democrats are pretty brazen with everything and they will have I mean, they all it seems like they always win. There were a couple of exceptions early on with Trump, but they seem like they always win the shutdown, the shutdown war and whoever gets to blame for it, even if the Republicans are in charge, our Democrats are in charge. Well, if we have a shutdown, the way it's structured, it will be on the Republicans. I'm sorry, on the Democrats hands, they will be the ones to shut it down. Because we're going to offer them a package that should pass through. Even though we've got, you know, the the amendment to it, when he gets to the Senate, they can strip it out. They strip it out. It's going to be the Democrats stripping it out. But I think it's very important in this country that we have ID that citizens of the US are the only ones that vote. We have ID to back up who they are. I think that simple enough. I mean, that's what that bill is about. And for the Democrats to strip that out and say, no, we don't want that in it. I think that speaks volumes for what they're trying to do, you know, hear here at the race in the race. So when that stripped out, I mean, is it expected that you'll have enough Republicans and maybe even a few Democrats to go along to keep the shutdown from happening? Well, if it comes back with that stripped out, imagine all the Democrats would vote for it. I can't speak for the Republicans as far as myself. I mean, I'd have to see it when it got back. I wouldn't commit to voting for it or against it at this point. I truly wouldn't. But we'll be headed back in Sunday. Monday, we'll hit the ground. They'll start whipping us and I'm part of the whip team. So we'll start seeing who's for it and who's against it. And we'll have a good idea by Tuesday morning and we'll see if we have enough votes to bring it up on the floor this week. We'll be in session for the next three weeks in a row. So we've got time to get it done. And it's it's going to, I mean, I like I tell you, Jeff, and you know, better than I do, DC loves drama. So don't expect them to do get anything done to the last minute. Yeah, well, I want to do like, well, they try and are, well, either side for that matter. Is there a political advantage with the election coming up to do it this way? I mean, it's the chessboards a little different with the what's on the line. Yeah, it was originally was not that the the the bill was not going to be attached to it. And that's gotten added on. I know Chip Roy and a handful of folks are wanting to attach to it. Again, I don't have a problem with that. I think us to have a positive idea of who's voting and being American always seems like something very normal and reasonable to me. But for some reason, the Democrat party didn't think so. And they're pushing back. There may be some crossovers. I doubt it very seriously because they're they're very good at following the line, following the party and what they're encouraged to do. Well, I mean, sorry for being repetitive here. But if the Senate strips it out, it comes back to the house. Are you worried about? I mean, number one, where would you be without the Save Act on this as an amendment? And number two, I mean, without it there, how many Republican votes do you lose with the very narrow narrow margins you guys got? I think if it comes back and it's been stripped out, I think you're going to see the Republican leadership push to pass it just to keep things open. Been an election time. I think that's my good feeling. Again, I'm not going to speak for anybody else on that. And I'm certainly not going to commit myself one way or the other until I see what's in it because the Senate can send it back just as they, you know, with with something in it that we don't want. So we have to be careful. I want to be careful on that. They want to send us a different creature. And I know you got Tommy coming on. I mean, they, they, you know, there's, there's Democrats, Republicans, and then there's the Senate. I mean, you got it. It's just it's tough to deal with them sometime. And this might be one of those that that the Senate wants to add something goofy on there coming back. We're joined by Jerry Carl here on the program, Congressman for the First Congressional District. Congressman, I election season, I guess we need to talk about that. What are you here in? I know you're on your way out. So maybe you're not as a plugged in or maybe you are. I don't know, but how do you feel about top of the ticket and then control of the house? I think I think Trump's going to win. I think Trump's going to win by a two or three percent margin, which is huge in the presidential race. It doesn't sound like much, but a wins a win and two or three percent, it's huge. I think the Senate, I think we're going to take a couple, if not three seats in the Senate. The House has got me a little worried. We have been in such a turmoil among ourselves, the Republican Party. I think people have lost a little bit of confidence in us. We should win. We should, I mean, that that should go without saying. We've certainly got the strongest message and we've got, we're leaning into that. We'll just have to see how the voters are. Voters are fickle. We're all playing for those independent votes, and that's where it's going to rest with House members too. But we've got some strong races. You see California shifting a little bit. I know it's going to seem a little crazy, but we may even pick up an extra seat in California. You've got some seats that we'll probably, one more in Arizona, that we lost two years ago. We shouldn't have lost it, but we lost it. She's running again. She's a strong candidate, a great person. I think we may pick up, I think we'll pick up some. The question is how many we're going to put actually lose. I know for District 2, if folks don't get out and vote and conservative folks don't get out and vote, we're going to lose District 2. I've been watching some of the polling. I mean, my race, for example, it's, if they had me eight points ahead, we can't afford my race. And if people don't get out and vote, those polls mean absolutely nothing. So right now, I think the polling I've seen has got figures in the lead. The last one that I saw, it's going to be neck and neck on that one. So please, folks, get out and vote. Get your family and your friends and get out and vote. Please, if you're especially in District 2, very fine. Obviously, everybody else in the state's going to be fine on real life. But I think the House is, and I'm probably a little more worried, and we're all working towards helping the House. I'm staying very active. As active as people will let me raise the money and do what I can do to help the other House members. Well, and here's the thing. I mean, we'll talk to you all too for a moment. I've seen very little polling. I don't, the Southern Poverty Law Center poll is not a legitimate poll. But beyond that, I agree with that. You look at the district and you know, and I mean, you know, at least part of it because it's your district. But Congressman, I don't think the pollsters really, I don't think there's a good methodology there. I don't think any of the polling when people try, there's not really a good model, a good science survey there. So there's a lot of unknowns about AL2. Yeah, there he is. And honestly, we're pulling for Dobson as hard as we can. I don't see figures out. I don't see him as active as her. She's everywhere I go. She's there. She's running a Katie Britt type, like campaign. She's everywhere. And that, you know, usually the one that works hardest wins. So if that's the case and it holds true with her, she'll win. You just don't see him out much. You know, figures are going to be relying obviously on his family's name and, you know, his history and family's history in this district district too. But is that enough to get people to get out and vote? We're going to find out here pretty soon about 60 days. Yeah, I folks don't get out and vote. Folks don't get out and vote. Hey, we're going to lose it. You're not going to have a representative from mobile because I'm telling you, figures live in Washington DC and has for a while. Because the Maryland is the word on the street there. But, yeah, yeah. I mean, he's from Obama era and he worked for Obama and he's worked for Biden also. So I mean, he's, he'd be deeply entrenched with the Democrat party now. He then he's a great guy. Super got to talk to. But for as far as politics and what we need in, in South Alabama, I just don't I'm not comfortable with it at all. It's remarkable how that turned out and you look at the slate of candidates. I mean, especially on the Democrat side, all everybody ran was like from somewhere besides within the boundaries of the second congressional district. Yeah, well, maybe not. It's a tougher job than people can't get credit for. Well, I mean, you had all these people. The Democrats specifically running from, you know, how many candidates from Birmingham running in that right? And there was one from Huntsville that ran Anthony Daniels would go from on Monday. If he had won representing North Huntsville, the Tuesday after he's sworn in representing Tillman's corner. Like, how crazy is that? Well, but you don't have to live in the district to run. That's the way it was set up many, many years ago. But it doesn't hurt to live in the district that you're running for. And, you know, I don't, I don't know why they couldn't find a better person. And while, you know, we had some strong Democrats that ran in that original primary from Mobile, but I thought should have ran. I should have won that I thought might win other than figures. You know, figures has obviously got so much momentum because of his mother and his father too for that matter. I mean, his dad was quite connected politically. So we'll see. It's all going to be based on turnout. And I'm really keep my fingers crossed. People listen to me and please get out and vote. I don't care what you've got to do. Get out and vote. Vote early. You know, if you know you're going to be gone, call into the permit court's office. They'll send you an application. You fill out application out. You send it in. They'll send you a ballot to vote. Follow the directions on the envelopes, please, because if any of those steps are not followed, they throw them away. They're very particular and I appreciate them being that way. So I encourage people to vote early if they can. Are need to. Cars, we've got to leave it there, but I always appreciate you coming in and give us kind of an update about what's here and out there. All right, Jeff, we'll see how the CR turns out. Yeah, looking forward to that conversation after that. All right, buddy. All right, I'll see you later. That was Jerry Carl there. We'll be right back. This is FM Talk 1.065. [Music] Welcome back to the Jeff Force show with FM Talk 1.065. Tommy Tamaroul coming up next and then later stay Senator Chris Elliott. I'll see here on a textured. I sure I understand why the Michigan Governor is here for the ship launch and not the Alabama governor. I'm not aware of that. Tim, Jeff, if we start charging people that actually don't commit crime, we're going to all be in trouble. It's hard to people that actually don't commit crime. Well, it's what's the criminal liability? There's a lot of the books that says, hey, if you buy your kid a firearm and he goes up and shoots up a bunch of people, then that would be criminal. But it's not that at all. It's a murder charge. We're redefining the definition of murder. See, we call with the sheriff and former school system to keep an eye on the behavior. The father moved him to a new district to avoid the warning. That's pretty sketchy to me. I mean, it's irrational, right? Is there like a mental problem here? Are we charging someone? I don't know. But stick with me here, murder charge. Jeff, how do we stop mass shootings? I mean, we just, you've got to be more vigilant. I'm not going to like go John Lott on you here and tell you that more guns prevent less gun crimes. I think that only works if people act rationally and responsibly. And we have a lot of irrational actors in humanity. So that's not necessarily true. But first of all, with mass shootings at schools, I mean, it's kind of on the schools and on us as a society, as government, through our elected officials to to lock down our schools, to make sure that like these things will happen. You know, I know in a school resource officer, there could have been much worse. Mani, there are a multitude of possibilities that lead up to the incident. We really don't know the facts, but unequivocally, there are social, cultural, mental issues of play. The last slide of defense was no one protecting and watching out over the kids in the school, which allowed him access to the first place. We have plenty of retired veterans and Elio's that would love to have a supplemental income that would guard our kids. Ricky, it was probably a false flag, Jeff, people getting paid to act out so our government will take our weapons. I knew that was coming. KCC morning, Jeff, I've asked you before, and I think I'll ask you again, if you would listen to Willie Nelson's, it's a bloody merry morning. It goes with Mondays. Grant becomes my say Democrats, either mean by people who are too stupid to get ID to vote. And that's for pressure. Are they quietly want 10 million illegal votes in the federal elections that the Democrats remain in power. So my question is, what's the agenda? Are they pushing? We got to get a break here where I packed. This is the Jeff Porte show. What if I'm talking one of six five? From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porte show. I don't think they've done it this way. And welcome back to the Jeff Porte show. And if I'm talking one, oh six, five, they just staying with us on this Friday morning. Texts like it would be a touch of the program two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, join us on the line now. I'll kick it off right now with our senior United States Senator. All right. I'd like to call him coach Tommy Tupperville is with us coach. Good morning. How you doing? You're not doing pretty good. Jeff, staying on the road. You know, we've been on the we've had a sabbatical for the last month. We don't work in August in terms of being in DC. We're on the road either in your state, you know, doing your due diligence or yesterday I'd breakfast in Birmingham, lunch in Orange County, California, and dinner in in Phoenix. So I've been on the road helping other senators or President Trump. And it's been an interesting month that we go back to work Monday in DC. And hopefully we come up with a budget. Let's get into the Senate map here just a moment. But first, first week of football season, what are your thoughts? Well, of course, Alabama and Auburn got off to a good start, but they should have them. And you don't find out a lot about your team when you're going against teams that you out match both Auburn and Alabama look look very good. I watched more of the Alabama game. I was interested in the quarterback get Alabama. I thought he he's gonna be a pretty good pretty good player was last year at the end of the year. But you can tell he's even got better. Auburn's quarterback has gotten better. He's got better receivers around him. But time will only tell. I was invited to go to the Ant Armor Michigan this weekend and go to the Texas Michigan game, which I think would be something to watch. But I'm ready to go home for a couple of days and kind of relax before we go back to DC. But I call this football kicked off. I'll watch a little bit of the Kansas City game last night. What a game that was open in NFL. So we got something else to talk about in politics, which is good. Well, yeah. And I'd rather sit here talking about football for the next 20 minutes or whatever. But such is the world is well, you've been on the road. I'm presumably going out and helping out with some of these, these Senate races. And what's it look like out there? I mean, a lot of these are in these battleground states. Do you have any sense of the mood among the electorate? Yeah, Jeff, I think people are finally waking up, not just in our statement around the country, that our economy in the United States, America is in trouble. You can't be 36 trillion dollars in debt and expect to have a good economy. And I watch some of these talking heads talk about how the federal government's going to get us out of this problem. And there's no way federal governments ever going to get anybody out of any problem, especially our economy. You know, we're just absolutely overspending 80th, we're printing $80,000 a second right now in in the Federal Reserve. And that's only where economy is going. We're just fleshing cash out to Democrats. Just they don't want to stop any problems. They want to just overcome the idea that it's been their fault, which has absolutely been their fault since I've been there for four years. But we've got to have an adjustment, my God, if we we got to take the Senate, we got to slow this nonsense down from the Democrats, we got to get President Trump in there, this lady that's the Democrats who pushed in as their candidate for president. She has no answers, doesn't want to go out and talk to anybody about it. You know, she's not even well liked by the Democrats in the Senate. I was shocked that they did this, but it's what it is. And I think the American people got a decision to make and whether, you know, we're going to keep this madness going of open borders and crime and spending twice as much as we bring in, or we're going to get somebody in her to fix it like President Trump who will fix it. He's going to make some tough decisions, but we can't keep on down this road. We're going to end up in a depression. Well, and the thing about our vice president Harris, like we don't really know what she's running on right now. I mean, it's kind of been lay low one one 18 minute interview with CNN in two and a half months or whatever. And I mean, this is it's a very strange, strange sort of election cycle. Yeah, well, it's a deep state. You know, I'm a football coach, you know, that I've been up there four years though. And I can figure it out pretty quick with the problems we got. And I've seen there's we got a number of people running our country right now that people don't know their names. And you can't continue the direction we're going towards socialism and expect to have the same country that we've had in the last 248 years. And they want to change the landscape of how we do things. And and they want, they want total power over what we're doing. They won't change the Supreme Court. They want to do all these things, get away from the Constitution. And folks, we can't do that. We better wake up and smell the roses. And I will say this, she had a big run in August in all way through their convention. But in the last week and I at President Trump, he's probably got a three or four point lead. You've got a lot of people who don't vote Democrat, no matter who they run, they could run Mickey Mouse because they're uneducated and they just they just believe in a vote in that way. But I think you're going to have a lot of Democrats and hey, we can't do this. We cannot continue to put our kids in harm's way in this this deficit, you know, open borders. We we got wars getting ready to start. We couldn't fight a war. Our military right now is not prepared to fight in one war, much less three that are on the horizon. And then of course, I always get back to one thing about our country's education. I feel bad for our inner city kids are they're just getting hammered by these teachers unions that do not want to teach kids reading and writing a math. They want to indoctrinate them in their social justice. And I'm telling you, we we we had better what's what we're doing and people better wake up and understand this is not about Democrat Republican. This is about patriots and socialists. And you know, I've been in Central America a couple of times in the last few weeks and been down to Columbia and Panama and some of these places that they're all going, what are y'all doing? And in America, you do not want what we have here. And I just hope we wake up in time to understand that. It feels just like a the end justify the means. It's a gross power grab and do whatever we need to do to win, which is kind of kind of a scary premise for a lot of Americans. Yeah, well, you know, we we've had an economy that was built on manufacturing and and people working getting up every day. We got so many people on entitlements right now, Jeff. It's just absolutely amazing. You know, we can't get a farm bill done. I feel bad for our farmers. Our farmers, this is going to be a year of a crunch year for them. I talked to two yesterday, they call me and says, because we we're going to have to have some kind of farm bill to get us out of this problem. Because we have pretty good crops, but they're not any good if the prices aren't there. And you're going to have you're going to have probably 30 40% of the farmers that are still in farming that are going to get out of farming after this year. You know, we've lost 150,000 farms in our country since Joe Biden and Kamala Harris took office 150,000. And you asked the Democrats about that and they said, well, we just bought our food from other countries. That makes a lot of sense because we saw what happened in COVID. We don't make anything in terms of health care. It's all made overseas in China or whatever. And we're going the wrong direction. We've got to get back to making things in this country. And that's what President Trump's running on is bringing manufacturing, getting our farmers going again, you know, having good food. And but I tell you, our farmers are in dire straits right now and that some crops will make some money. But if you get into the row crops like cotton and soybeans and corn, they're going to be devastated this year and you're going to have them selling out right and left. Well, tell me this now. We talk about, you know, the Democrats thinking, well, we could just buy our food from other places or eat bugs or whatever they think we ought to do. But I mean, it's at some level, this is a national security crisis. If we're not before not, you know, making our own food in this country. Well, that's number one. If we don't have food, we got huge problems. And again, when you bring in from other countries, you don't know what you're getting. You know, you put that organic sign on there all you want. But these people in other countries don't have the regulations that our farmers have that they have to do the things right and do it the right way. And you're going to end up bringing in food and meat and chicken and all those things that we should be making and growing here in our country. But we're going to buy from other people because they can do it cheaper because the less regulations, it's just, it's sad to see all the things that the Democrats are trying to do. And again, it all goes back to just total control and how they want to control anything, whether it's farming or manufacturing or or big business. They're really after the small businesses. You know, this this is the taxes are going to be enormous. If they will, we elect another Democrat in the White House is going because that they got a tax because they even know that 36 trillion dollars, we can't continue to pay three billion a day is what we pay the American government right now federal government pays three billion a day on the note of all that that we're borrowing from other countries three billion a day. We can't sustain that. We we're just dead broke. Joy by U.S. Senator Tommy Tuberville here on the program. All right, we got a government funding deadline looming. Let's talk about the save act here being somehow put into this. Give us kind of lay the land and the possibility there of getting something like that through at this moment. Well, if you had some common sense in DC, it'd be a no brainer because there's I don't think there's anybody should have any problem with us having safe and fair elections. So with all these illegals coming in, what we did, Mike Lee and myself, we come up with a with a bill saying listen, say back basically says that you got to have an upbeat vote and you got to be a citizen. You got a proof of citizenship. And but a lot of these people make their own bodies, illegal drivers, losses and stuff. We can't allow that. We can't afford the people that not don't have skin in the game or country to devote an election. So but the Democrats are totally against this. I heard Mark Kelly from the senator from Arizona say yesterday, you know, we don't need to create more problems. It's already illegal for nonsense and to vote. Well, really, it's also illegal for somebody to to rob a bank. But you got to have laws to keep that from happening. You got to have laws to keep people from shooting somebody else. The Democrats, they don't want fair elections. They want everybody to vote. And that's the reason they got the border open. But I'm hoping that Mike Johnson and the House will attach the say back to the to the to the budget when we get back next week. And hopefully they'll pass it and send it to the Senate. Now, of course, we're going to put it in the face of the Democrats in the Senate. Okay, we need a budget. We got to get one done. But you also, we have to have fair elections, but they will vote against it because that do that they do not want fair elections. So that's a direction that we're headed in. And again, it's just it's common sense. But you can get a dictionary out in Washington, DC, a Webster dictionary. And it does not have a common sense in it. I promise you. Well, are you concerned at all about way that might go, even with or without the say back with, you know, the November 5 election right around the corner? Yeah. Well, of course, the Democrats always hold Republicans hostage on this budget. And of course, they do it with omnibus normally in in December, where they can just go everything in there on it and pay all their buddies back all these crooked mayors and governors all over the country and spend that's how we've gotten the $36 trillion in debt. We'll get a budget. And I hope we get it done in the next, we're going back and we got three weeks back in DC as the house in the Senate. And then a few weeks right before the election, everybody's back out on the road campaigning and and trying to get reelected. Hopefully we get it done in these three weeks, but it's going to be a fight down there. But you're going to find out a lot about the Democrats. And I think they understand that the American people are watching them. Okay, well, let's get a budget done. We want to get it done as Republicans, but we also want to have a fair election coming up. There's nowhere I go all over the country. People look me in the eye as a coach. I'm worried about a fair election. And the Democrats don't care about that. I mean, they just absolutely don't care about the significance of making sure the American people understand it. We all want fair elections. But we've gotten to a point in time where where it's just it's just so volatile between Republican and Democrat. And as I said earlier, it's really not Republican and Democrat anymore. This is about American capitalism versus basically American socialism. And there's nobody that I know won't socialism for the federal government just basically takes over everything that we do, which is we're almost to the point now. And we we got to get people back to work in this country and quit giving out checks. Oh, last question, reach out of here on this coach. There's a lot of speculation out there. Have you ever given any thought about 2026 and your plans? Well, you know, my plans are to be in the United States Senate. I keep keep hearing everything that's going on. Now, of course, you got to see the lay of the land of what's going to happen with with this election who's going to be in the White House. I will say this, I'm getting tired of getting kicked in the teeth being in a minority. And I've told you this being in the Senate when you're in the minority in the Senate, you basically are back in call of the people that are in the majority. Chuck Schumer is running this country straight in the ground. And there's not anything we can do about it because we don't have the votes. So I'm hoping to continue to represent people from Alabama. I really, I'm starting to enjoy a little bit more because it is very competitive. And I know we're doing the right thing as Republicans, you know, Katie Brett, myself, and all of our Congress, Congressmen and women from from the state of that, we're doing the right thing in trying to get our country back on track. But I'll tell you, it's like playing with a short stick right now and hopefully everything will clear up by the time we get through this election and we'll get President Trump. And everybody said, well, you're going to be in this cabinet. I don't want to live in Washington these seven days a week. I'll tell you that right now to President Trump that, you know, when you're a senator, you go up there four days a week and come home and work your state and be around your family and all that, you know, I just I'm just looking forward to helping the people from Alabama and representing them. But hopefully we have a little bit more power to be able to do that, you know, after this election. Well, something like governor, does that appeal to you at all in Alabama? You know, I haven't, you know, people bring that up. You know, it's, I don't think that far down the road. You know, heck, that's two years away from, from, you know, doing something like that. You know, I'll, I'll turn 70 years old next week. And again, I think, you know, I'm glad I'm doing what I'm doing. And I told you this before, I just barely miss Vietnam. My whole family was in the military. My dad actually died on active duty. And I love this country. And so when I got out and after I just said, I'm not doing the ESP in after I got a coach. And I want to help, I want to help our country. I didn't realize how bad a shape we were in. And I don't think anybody does unless you're in the middle of politics like I am. But I'm glad I'm there. And I think I can make a difference for our state and doing what I'm doing. But, you know, that's so far away down the road. If I know Alabama, we've got we've got problems, but we also got a lot of good people in in government. And we just got to keep it going in the right direction. And we all need to work together because, you know, federal government, state government have to work Cohen as side to get things done. It doesn't take long to figure that out either, because it takes money to run both the federal government and state government. Coach, safe travel. Thanks for making time for us this morning. All right. Yep. God bless. See you later. All right. That was a U.S. Senator Tommy Tuberville there. We got to work in a break here. We'll be right back. This is a Jeff Porte show and a flip talk. We're six five. I can't get to sleep at night. The parking lot's so loud. And right DC hasn't worked in 20 years. Probably never made a single person cold. But I can't say the same for me. I've done it many times. Somebody look about to the Jeff Porte show that the talk will go six five. Thank you for staying with us on this Friday morning or what's left of long in that last segment. So this will be quick. Terry, I would think the Michigan governor is here for the ship launch because his name Lansing, the city of Lansing is in Capitol, Michigan. I was born and raised in Michigan. Grant. I'm not going to read the poop Kamala Harris as much as I would like to. I almost see here a name texture. Wow, Jeff. Have a real eyes better than Trump. Y'all need to run him as president. We have a lot of like people that hate listen to this program. It's it's remarkable who listens to this show. It's just just because they need to be outraged about something. This is the handful of people that would actually listen to liberal talker radio in America. Tim Jeff, coach is a street shooter. No BS got to love it. They made a little news there. Not really interested in the cabinet spot in the Trump administration and doesn't seem to be too warm to the idea of running for governor. Seems like he's wants to do something and the Senate it sounds like is where he will stay, but he said, you know, it doesn't want to doesn't want to run if they're in the minority. Well, I think the Republicans will get the majority in the Senate. The map is just not a very good Democrat map. So based on that answer, I got to think he's running for Senate again, despite what Josh Moon and some others have written. We'll be right back. This is a Jet pore show enough to talk one oh six five. Welcome back to the Jet pore show enough to talk one oh six five. I just stay with us. I forgot to do this in the last segment was so short, but programming no Monday be back at the home base. We got a state representative Jennifer Fiddler and some guy named Dale Jackson and one guest to be named later joining us now. We do it about this time every Friday we're bringing on our returning champion state senator Chris Elliott senator. Good morning. Are you? I'm doing great. It's always good to talk to you on Fridays. I know I know the end is near when I get to talk to you. So it's a good feeling. It is. I won't deny that. So I guess we'll start off with this and talk about it a little bit with Todd Stacey. The it's almost like a soap opera saga or something between this veterans affairs situation. I know about the department of mental health. They've been fighting over the opioid settlement. I know I'm like kind of aware of what's going on there, but Governor coming out really hard yesterday. I mean, I had seen her swinging that hard since she got rid of her early childhood education secretary with this with her announcement about the her call for resignations and removing a member of the board there. What do you make of it? Yeah, that was that was top rope stuff. I got it called yesterday from the governor's Senate liaison just kind of giving us a heads up that that was that was coming. I think called right what as I was getting into Montgomery yesterday and and you know, look, I know there's been some some friction there between mental health commissioner, obviously, and and the Department of Veterans Affairs. And and I think this is one of those instances where both of them are trying to occupy the same space, right? They're trying to compete for the limited resources that are there. And in this case, opioid settlement money and they certainly compete for, you know, have competed for other funding. Heck, every state agency does that, right? Yeah, you know, when it comes out of the general fund or the education trust fund. And so I don't think that's unusual. It just got pretty heated and and the governor's, you know, certainly chosen size there. That's her prerogative and and she's she's hit it pretty hard and heavy. I'm not, you know, I'm not up to speed on all of the different, you know, the different allegations she's made. Neither have I necessarily researched them, but she's she's uh, when she decides she wants to kick you off a committee or fire somebody, she does it and I know that from experience. As I say, you speak in there from your own personal experience, there aren't you? Well, you know, when we we kind of broke up over the the ITN bridge project and that's $6 total and she didn't she didn't like that. And so she, you know, had appointed me to the HRP two committee and then, um, took me out of the HRP two committee, which again, sir, prerogative, she's a governor. And, uh, and so I'm, you know, I'm comfortable with my position and where I came down on a $6 toll and don't don't, you know, would do the exact same thing again. Um, but but she's certainly, you know, the, the Department of Veterans Affairs, uh, director, executive director commissioner has certainly gained her honor. And, you know, here it comes, it was very interesting that he decided not to take her, uh, suggestion to resign. And so, uh, it'll be, it'll be very curious to see how that plays out because if I'm, if I've got it correct, I think there's a board that actually, uh, governs that in a point, uh, uh, you know, the, the director there. And so you'll have to see how that plays out. Well, and I'll tell you what though, and I mean, this is just another one of those, wow, another board, uh, another commission, another unelected bureaucracy. Um, you know, I guess it's answerable to the governor indirectly because she appoints the board, but it just, uh, these is kind of extra governmental entities. Uh, they did not, it's not a good run for them right now. There's a lot of those around and whether it's executive directors, executive secretaries or commissioners that, that run a lot of the executive branch, you know, day to day. Um, and, and then are accountable, at least by some measure, back to some elected official. And I think that's kind of what we're seeing right now is that there's a path at least back to an elected official who's answerable to the people. And so, uh, yeah, you, you get to Montgomery and all those big white buildings, there's a bunch of, there's a bunch of bureaucrats just pedaling away to, um, do the bureaucrat thing up there and, and, uh, and all the boards and commissions and, and, uh, things that, you know, make the, the, uh, the wheels of government go. Hey, it's, it's just a strange set of circumstances. I mean, what we were just, we were just dealing with like a, like an ethics, you know, complaint and it was dismissed. And, uh, I, this is serious. This is, uh, just, just from my, uh, and I know I got kind of a different eye on those things, but it's a, it's a real big mess here. Why, why, why is it this, like, this is like, and then it wouldn't be, it's sad because like it's a veteran sort of thing that we're supposed to, you know, kind of put on a pedestal that would hold it in high regard. And look at this. Look at what's going on here. Well, I think the commissioner is, is well respected. He's certainly well respected in South Alabama. And I think the governor certainly feels that something very untoward went on in order to, you know, to, to do what she's done and take the actions she's, uh, she's done. But I know the commissioners, again, very well respected and certainly within the veterans community here in, in South Alabama. So, um, we'll have to, you know, have to dig into what the governor's, um, you know, issues are there. Um, but, but look, our, our ethics, I mean, if this, if ethics is truly the, the, uh, the thing that, that, that, um, really was the straw that broke the camel's back of these ethics complaints. Our ethics law is, is screwed up. I mean, I, yeah, make it, make it stricter if you want to just get it straight now because you found Mr. Davis in this position where, you know, there was some alleged ethics complaint commissioner Davis felt like he had to, he had to, because of the ethics statute, report this to the ethics commission who then like almost threw it out immediately and like, what are you doing? And, and, and so it's, it's just odd when you have somebody at that level read that statute and feel like, Oh, hey, I got to go report this. I'm required by a statute to report this. And, um, and end up in this, you know, in this situation, this being the outcome. So, you know, we, we need to look at, at the mess that is the ethics law that was rushed through back in, in 2010 and see if we can fix that. Enjoyed by state Senator Chris Hilly, the year old, a program senator, um, the other, uh, crazy, sort of, uh, off-season controversy, uh, our pharmacy board, uh, another one of your pet peeves, uh, uh, there was a Birmingham TV news segment about it and, and, uh, you know, Cynthia Gould, a reporter up this way, went and she, uh, you know, went to their offices and showed that how much money they were collecting and that, that there's something that's, that's really, I mean, at least based on the reporting that's really off there, isn't there? There, there is. And, and you would be surprised. Most, most of your listeners would be surprised to see just how many of these types of boards exist and how much money they take in and how they spend that money. And just to be clear, it's your money, right? You're the small business person. You're the cosmetologist, the massage, therapist, the electrician, the contractor, right? You know, whatever. But there's a huge sum of money that is just aggregated in Montgomery, um, to operate these boards. And oftentimes that, that large S, it doesn't get, you know, doesn't get distributed back or used for the benefit of, of the, um, the operation, but rather, uh, or for the licensees, but rather for the operation of the, the board itself. And so you see these offices that are pretty darn fancy. You see executive director salaries that are, I don't know, up there with cabinet level officials or more and in the pharmacy board case, you see, you know, really salary and per diem for board members that vastly exceeds any other board in the exist in the state. And so, uh, it's, it's, it's, it's one of those things that the legislature has finally started to dig into and look at. And that's why you see all this pressure around there because you see a little sunshine on, on these, these types of boards. They don't like it. They don't like it where the darn, but you start putting this out there for other people to look at and they go, you know, oh, it's just a very hard to defend. Very hard to say. Well, I thought to touch Stacy about this. And I mean, you and I have probably, if I'm not mistaken, spoke about this, it is the chatter in the hallways in the state house. It wasn't school choice. It wasn't like the ESG ban. It wasn't some kind of voter ID law or whatever was Alan was pushing through our, it wasn't even gambling a lot of times. You know, it was, it was about maintaining the status quo here with this, uh, this system we have in place and kind of the keeping you and Gudger on the sidelines and trying to beat that bill. I mean, so many people, only more people than I would have imagined were just, oh, we were just, we're just playing to signing die here. We're just trying to keep this from happening because they're on the tip, right? I mean, it's not complicated. They're, they're, they're, they're making money off of the system as it exists. If we make it more efficient, if we streamline boards, if we streamline the administration that administrative functions of the board, if we pull back the curtain and show the large S, if we, if we explain to the people of the state of Alabama, that the lobbyists are really actually running these boards under contract and, and, and are acting as state agencies, the lobbyists have taken over, uh, the, the administration of the state, um, then, then it's, it's kind of crumble. And, and so, yeah, it's a, you know, scratch my back, scratch your back type system and everybody come get what you can get while you can get it at the trough. But you pull back the curtain and you take a look and it's just indefensible. I mean, who, who would have ever thought it was okay for registered lobbyists to run state agencies? Like at the same time, they're lobbying. Who would ever thought it was okay for a board to go spend licensee money on the lobbyists to then lobby the legislature to not make changes to the underlying statute for the board? Uh, just craziness. And, and so, you know, a lot of us in the sunset committee is doing great work on that. Contract reviews doing great work on that to try to see if there's a way to get this under control. Let's get a require like one big fix, right? Or, uh, are you going to try to do it incrementally? What do you think? You know, I think I, I introduced a 500 plus page bill last session and everybody choked on it understandably. And Jeff, that was the incremental fix, right? That was, that was probably a third of the boards that were out there. But, but, and so it'll have to be an incremental fix. And, and I think that what you and others have done in the media to try to keep this pretty boring topic in the, in the forefront is, is helpful. People are starting to pay attention. Other members that, that this isn't their focus. They got other things they're focused on are starting to look at this and see this for the problem that it is. And this is just good government, right? It's, it's one of those things we need to make this government more efficient. It is taking money out of small business people's pockets. It is, you know, waste fraud and abuse oftentimes. And we need to fix it. It's embarrassing is what it is. When you hear this and people see these reports are just like, well, it's just, that's just Alabama being Alabama. And, you know, yeah, you guys in the legislature, the way it's viewed is like, you just, you're just part of it. You're part of the system that allows for something like this to go on. Well, to some extent, that's fair. That's a fair criticism. And there are those of us in the legislature and I would put myself back to you that are frustrating that we can't get something like this fixed, right? I certainly have been pushing hard for years to try to work on a solution for this. But it does take me, you know, convincing other legislators that this is something we need to focus on. And so I'll continue to try to do that. And hopefully one of these days, you know, myself and other like-minded people, you know, they've got Senator Gavan, Senator Barfoot, Senator Kelly, Senator Gudger, you mentioned, of course, you know, looking at this hard center waiver, of course, and seeing the, you know, the abuse that's happening, and so they're pushing on that. You've got Representative Boba Underwood, Representative Wilcox, Representative Pringle, who pushed on this as well, hard. We just got to convince all our other colleagues to come along. And really upset the, you know, the class of people that, you know, occupy the halls in Montgomery. Senator, just a few more minutes here. And I want to, I guess, I know a lot of lawmakers. It's not necessarily happening down our way. What do you, are you hearing about this, like these Haitian refugees being busting around the state? Is that showing up on your radar? Yeah, I've certainly heard about it, and I've read it, and I can certainly understand, I mean, we've got immigration problems involving county as well. Ours are not, you know, arriving by bus for one particular entity, you know, one particular employee or industry, but we certainly, we certainly have a lot more illegal immigrants involved in county than we used to have. And it's really causing serious problems in our school system. You know, you have the kids of these immigrants, some of whom are, frankly, are unaccompanied, they're really changing the dynamics in our school system. You, you've had, you know, 10 times as many English learners, English language learners and school systems that are, you know, sitting oftentimes after a couple of years for the same tests our kids are sitting for. And, you know, how can you expect them to perform on those tests when they can't speak English or they're, you know, they're just new to English. And so it's changing scores and things like that. That's all a direct result of the Biden Harris Board and Porter policies and the disaster that Kamala Harris has made of our Southern border. And we're feeling it at home. Well, and here's where I guess it becomes a problem. I mean, like, we may be flush with cash right now in the education budget. And I think that's going to change real quick, but you got to hire these teachers that are bilingual that, especially, it's not just Spanish. It's Creole French, right? So what do you do? It's not just that. And this is, you know, kind of these endodialics coming out of the mountains of Central America and stuff like that. I mean, it's not, it's not just like, hey, we need Spanish teacher, you know, it's not getting in that anymore. And it's, and you see the movement within the education budget committees to look at providing additional funding, additional tax funding to school systems to deal with English language learners. And so the short answer is, you know, the impacts of the the Biden Harris, you know, border policies are absolutely costing more Alabamaans tax dollars to try to educate children that aren't from here and aren't here illegally. And so that obviously gets under my skin and others, but they're here. And we're required by federal law to, you know, have them in school. And we can either teach them or they can drag our scores down into the toilet. And again, I don't blame the kid. I want to, frankly, I want to help the kid. But it is just gotten to the point where so many that it's hard, really hard to handle it all. Center will leave it there. We always appreciate your time. We'll do this again next week. Sounds great. Just have a great weekend. Stay Senator Chris Elliott there. We'll be right back. This is FM Talk. What are those six five? We'll go back to the Jet Force Show. What if we talk about those six five critical Mondays program stay up to Jennifer Fiddler and from WV and N and Yala Hammer news. Dale Jackson will be with us. Sir Del Tony, you're getting quite a liberal fan club on the text line. Brad doing a great job. Jeff, I think Tuberville is doing a great job. Opie stays where he is and can build rank a senator. They all say Republicans lie because they have been believing the lives of Democrats for so long. They don't know the truth when they hear it. Community notes want to be asked, Elliot, how much Elon Musk is paying him to promote that crappy expensive starly. Seems like an ethics violation, honestly. Are you serious? Man, you are hurting your own credibility there. If you think he's getting paid by Elon Musk, in Grant, regardless of blame, game, finger, and pointing, who else has held funds from our veterans, regardless of the argument, and hold those funds up, they either ask kick to full stop period. All right. Come up here shortly, but they mobile Sean, take it away. Hey, you know, I'm waiting for I pay Elon. So I use Starlink myself, but I'm I pay him every month. I don't I don't get a check. I mean, like, are you satisfied with it? I do like it. Yeah. So, I mean, well, I like having internet because that's what we run our television. You know, I live out in Westmobile County. So I don't have the cable out there. So yeah, went stirling because we use a lot of internet and we use it for Roku TV. Yeah. So I'm happy with it. I got the, you know, got the panel, the satellite dish up there on the roof. And works good for me. I like it. And I'm not paid. And I'm paying and not getting paid. Well, this whole point is this like, you know, why are we spending so much on laying fiber where you may serve three houses at the end of a dirt road? How about we do both? You know, that's a crazy thing government doesn't like to do that. How about we lay fiber where it makes the most sense? And then when there's a big gap where that fiber is going to cost more than, you know, the return on it, then you you give a check to people to be able to buy Starlink. But they're not even interested in that discussion. Uh, these guys and state agencies and it's it's very, I will say it. I think it's kind of corrupt. I'd like, you know, how about this? You use whatever the best practice is. What works best in that situation? Take a little bit of column A, a little bit from column B, it serves the people of Alabama. Those are make the telecoms. Happy down, doesn't know it doesn't, but we're all paid off. If anybody has an opinion, so I got a bunch of opinions coming up that will all be paid off. I also have a sweet tenant media Russia cash. Where is that? Me too. I can give them the address 900 Western America circles and the money right here. Yeah, money order preferably. I got to get out of here. It's been a pleasure. I will try to do better on Monday. Sorry, Phyllis. I forgot to say goodbye. This has been the Jeff for show on F. M. Talk. One oh six five. The cowboy rides away.