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Welcome to Beyond the Blockchain, with Scott Tindall, a discussion of blockchain technology, cryptocurrency, and why it matters to you. Hey folks, welcome into the show. You're listening to Beyond the Blockchain, where we talk about blockchain technology, cryptocurrency, why it matters to you, and also, you know, the show was kind of morphed a little bit, Phil, since we first started it. Now we talk about AI, machine learning, emerging technologies, robotics, robotics, man, we always got something interesting going on. As always, just joining us from the New Jersey studio, we have Sierra Catalina, Sierra, how are you? Hi, I'm a wonderful, just had a nice long holiday weekend. And... Do anything fun? No. I just relaxed, and that was fun in and of itself. Yeah. That's pretty good. Has nothing wrong with that, and everybody needs some of that in their life. Yeah, it has been a good holiday weekend down here on the Gulf Coast. We haven't. We don't want to jinx us, but we're into September without any storms so far this season, Phil. So, that's a good start. Well, there's a storm coming from one. Yeah, well, I got a hard hit up here one knock on that. But there is a storm coming. Not here, though, is it? A little bit of one I think, yeah, just some. I saw this great bit this comedian did, said the reason we name hurricanes and don't name like tornadoes and stuff is so that we can like humanize them and discount them and be like, "Oh, Debbie. I ain't even worried about Debbie. Debbie's going over there next door because we're just so used to having storms down here on the coast." Like tornadoes are inside the hurricanes. They don't last long enough. They come by for a couple of minutes and then they're gone. That's true. Sierra, tonight on the show, I want to talk when we come back from the break. I want to talk about X-TV, what it is, what it means, and how you are the best I can tell the human that broke the news. Would that be interesting? Let's talk about it. I know you had a bit of an experience with it, so that'll be something fun to talk about. As we talk about what's going on in the world of crypto, the stock market is down of fortune today. Everything is red. I don't pay attention to that stuff well enough to actually know, but I did see that it is tragically not a good spot. Like we always talk about, the stock market being down 2% is no big deal to people that pay attention to crypto because we're used to going up 10% down 10% in an hour. It's more exaggerated even than the stock exchange. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, let's see. Bitcoin is sitting at 56.6 right now, which last time we were here, it's down 4%, so that's probably more than the market. Let's go check out Coinbase real quick. I do know that we talk about HNT a lot, which is the Helium token. Helium has some news last week. They did. Tell us about that. I'll give people the next up to you. Payments for carrier or offload data are now alive, and what that means is people who have Helium gateways that are servicing the public can actually be paid by the carriers for the data that they're offloading. So it's a pretty big deal for anyone that has a Helium mobile hotspot in a highly trafficked area or an area that sees a lot of network traffic. They should start seeing some nice pay days. So that was the entire big goal of the project, and it's really a very big deal. Yes, it's going to be some good rewards. You know, the rest of the market down, Helium's up 2% since the last time we were on air. In the past month, Helium is up 48.71%, which hard to find that in the traditional market. People which is their mobile carrier that we were just talking about, that is actually a 3.6% just today. So while the rest of the market's doing what it does, you know, some cryptos that live in this world we call deep in, this decentralized physical infrastructure network seem to be either holding steady or performing just fine. So it's exciting to watch for the people that follow the show and follow some of the products we've talked about. All right, we're going to go to break. Sierra, we come back. Let's get into XTV, what it means, how you broke the news, and how everybody is just stealing your content. Sound good. Welcome back to Beyond The Blockchain with Scott Tindall. Hey folks, welcome back into the show. You're listening to Beyond The Blockchain here on 1065 FM talk. As far as we know, we may be your only terrestrial radio show in the country. We're talking about blockchain technology and emerging technologies such as AI and machine learning. I don't know. Maybe there's another one out there, but if there are, we can't find us. If you got one in mind, send it to us, we'd like to be their sister show, I guess, whatever you want to call it. Before the break, we were talking about XTV being launched. It's a new thing, so joining us, he wasn't here for the first segment, but joining us now is Peter Tuller, the crypto arborist. Welcome, Peter. Thank you. Thanks for being here. Sierra is out in the New Jersey studio, and she is one that actually broke the news on XTV. Sierra, tell us a little bit about that process, how you found out about it, and then what's happened since, because it's been a little bit of a whirlwind, actually. Yes, so I found out about it a little by accident. I usually cast content, like long-form video content, to my TVs, from X to watch it that way. I actually have my laptop hardwired and was watching a video that some folks on the platform did. They went down to the southern border to expose what is really going on down there. It was about a 30-minute-long video, so I hooked up my laptop with my HDMI and was watching it on the big screen, and I posted that. It made me think to search yet again, I've looked in the past, for the X on the TV. There it was. I snacked a quick pic and posted that XTV was live, so this is a new dedicated video platform. It's not the same as just having the X platform on your TV. It's purely video content. It's connected to your account, so you'll see content from people that you follow. It's got suggested content, and then kind of what's trending, but you can also search by creator. It gives a channel-type view, not dissimilar to that of YouTube. Really exciting. That's really cool, but do you still have to have a paid account to get anything over 90 seconds? I don't believe so. I am a premium plus subscriber, so it's hard for me to speak to what the not premium plus subscriber experience is like, like I did link it to my account to log in, but the XTV account or app was free to download, and I don't think that my experience is any different. Maybe I won't have ads, or maybe you'll get the ads, which will be great, actually, for the platform. They can get more advertisers. I think this is really interesting. You broke the story yesterday, here on XNow, Elon Musk, as most people know, is the owner of X. Two hours ago, he tweeted that TV app beta rolling out, and he quote tweeted, "X engineering." I think you beat Elon's official announcement by a full 30 hours, so that's impressive. I might have, yeah, I feel like I might have discovered it by accident, and they totally were not ready to launch this, although it's running really smoothly, but they are pretty good about their formal announcements, and the fact that my kind of shoddy texture with my reflection in it, because it was sunny in the room, is the one that went viral on that. That's my favorite part of this whole thing, is, yeah, my favorite part of this whole thing is, we can tell who stole your content, because your reflection is actually in the picture, that everybody keeps sharing, so it's like, "Oh, where did you get this image?" This one from Sierra's phone, ZC Sierra in the reflection. Her famous quote is, "Cuz stealing content is not cool." That's right. Stealing content is not cool. Right, Sierra? It's not cool. Yeah, guys. We don't steal content. I just responded to Elan, Sierra, I just responded to Elan, and said, Sierra Catalina once said it first. Oh my God, no. I mean, I did, so, I mean, that just happened. He is the evil grin on his face, too, right now. Always. Yeah, I mean, he's like Tony, he's like Tony Stark, he's, you know, he'll probably never see it. Well, were you trying to say that Elan just paid attention to my post? Like, come on, then. I mean, I can't get him to pay attention to mine. Yeah, but you don't have these luxurious curly locks like I do. Well, now you have a blue check, so your eyes are... That's true. I'm blue-checked up, so there's no telling now. All right, so you post this, and you tell everybody that XTV is live, how many times has this post been viewed, how many times has it been quoted, retweeted, stolen, like, what is the number there, because I know it's a really big number. So it's been viewed like 800,000 times, which is then all that. That seems like a lot to me. It's been reposted 499 times, but it's been stolen. Like, 65 times. Can you see how many times has it been stolen? I've seen major media outlets, and like Spark, like international media outlets too. So Peter asked the question, how can you tell how many times has been stolen? How did you... I saw the video you posted, but how did you run that down? Well, so, well, first I was just saying that I was seeing it all over the platform. I just kept seeing it, and what's said, and like, not really, and it's kind of a fault of the X platform right now, what's said is the bigger accounts that stole it from me quickly exceeded my reach, so they got like a ton more views with my posts than I did pretty quickly, so then the stolen posts were generating more graphic than mine. But the way that I found that I was on LinkedIn today, and I saw it, and then someone else tagged me in it on LinkedIn, and I just thought, "Huh, let me just do a quick Google search of XTV, and sure enough, I saw quite a few press releases that used my original image, and then I was like, "Hmm, let me reverse image search this," and I took my original image, and I threw it into Google, and it found, I didn't realize you could do that. Oh, yeah, that's a pretty good thing now. Oh, yeah, that's great. If you have an Android phone, you can do it from inside your camera, like just from inside Google Photos, I use Google Lens on everything. Oh, wow, I didn't try that yet, I was thinking about that. It's a pretty great technology. If you're like, "Hey, I have like, that person's shoot," you can just like pull out your camera and use Google Lens, and you figure out where they bought their shoot, and it'll pull up sites for you to buy it right now. Wow, that was pretty good. And so we've got 65 thefts, many of them with accounts over a million followers. So basically, these people are stealing hundreds of dollars worth of ad revenue from you, right? Maybe thousands. Yeah, potentially thousands, some in a bigger account, so mine has like 800,000 views on it, but some of the accounts that stole it have over 2 million views each. Wow. And then it made it until those like actual media outlets pressed releases as well. Yeah, that's awesome. What's hilarious to me is that like it's not even a great picture, like I just was super stoked to share the news so I snapped a pic real quick. It's definitely off the cuff from my phone, in front of my TV, like I'm excited to see it, which may also be why people are intrigued by it because it's very authentic, it doesn't come off as a staged release from X. Maybe, but it does beg the question, in 2024, like y'all didn't even go make sure it worked on your own TV, and then we wonder how misinformation gets spread, like what if, just what if, that wasn't real. Well, and that's a big, what if considering how easy it is for us to create images that are not real, I think one thing that we should do is we should do a test with Grock and other AI imaging and say, can you make a picture of a TV with a person taking the picture as a reflection in the TV? Let's do that right now. That would be an interesting experiment. You know, let's try it out. We'll see what happens, we'll try it out. Show me a picture of a, what, all right, so. Well, so what I'm going to do is I'm going to take my image, my original image, and I'm going to throw it into mid-journey, and I'm going to use the describe feature, and what that's going to do is spit me back out a text prompt that describes what it's being. It'll actually give me four. This is my biggest cheat for, like, recreating actual images with AI, and then I'm going to take those prompts and dump them back into, I don't know, all my image generators, so. Sierra, what's your go-to image generator on AI? That is a tough question. It really depends on for what. I like Grock a lot, which uses flux for its underlying generation technology. Flux says really hyper-realistic human portraits. Interesting. I like mid-journey a lot for scenic stuff, and also for architecture. Mid-journey is pretty good at architecture. And I like GPT, or well, Dolly, which you can prompt through GPT for. If I need clear text in the image that I'm generating, it's pretty good at making sure you get accurate text output. Interesting. Okay. I think what's interesting to me is all these different protocols or projects all have their own strengths and weaknesses. One thing we can get into after we come back from the next break is the fact that X has just added 100,000 NVIDIA units into their AI to what's going to be Grock 5.0, I think. Is that right, Sierra? That's right. So you're going to have 100,000 units, plus they say they're going to double it up. They're going to have 200,000 NVIDIA units running Grock. And the next closest competitor, I think, is OpenAI that has 15,000 units. So you're going to talk about the speed that AI can train, can develop, like, you're going to be looking at, like, 15x, right? I put Grock through the container, the ranger this week, in the Trinket world. Sorry. Sorry. I'm going to be the largest supercomputer. Sky. I believe in existence right now. No, don't say Skannet, we don't put Skannet. Somebody's going to keep an eye on this thing. I'm sorry, Peter. What were you saying? You put Grock through the ringer. So I put Grock through the ringer this week in the world of trees. Sierra, I'll provide you some of the feedback it didn't do too well this week. Yeah, I see it really depends on what you're asking it. Sometimes, like, one of the things that Sierra actually taught me is Grock does not yet very good at hyper localized content. It's very good at general knowledge content. I asked it to give me recommendations on places to eat if I were a local here in town. And it gave me some, just kind of, it read like an article from Southern Living on somebody that visited for a weekend, but it never lived here. Right. So it gave me, like, a B plus answer of, like, so if somebody from Southern Living came and just wrote an article because they spent a weekend here, but it didn't give me, like, if I actually lived here going to Callahan's or going, you know, to, you know, some of the places I might go individually rather than just what the tourists are going to do. So if I can ever contribute to X, which I think we know somebody that can open that door, what I tried to do this week, I would give it prompts to say I'm in front of this tree, it has fungal fruiting bodies, it's got deadwood, it's got this, it's got this. There was no way to prompt it to go into a database of standards, like on OpenAI, like, I'm sure X or grok will eventually have it to where you can feed it certain information that it can feed off that and then the internet that will put it in real world practical use. So when you're dealing with OpenAI, you get a better practical response on? Yeah, simply because I was able to feed in information first. Oh, you're, you're training it yourself? Correct. Yeah. It's interesting. That's all. A lot of what this is about is training it. So when we come back on Beyond the Blockchain, we'll probably talk more about X and AI and some of the fun stuff's going on and then, oh, Peter's got a project we're going to talk about too. So we'll see you on the backside of the break. Welcome back to Beyond the Blockchain with Scott Tindall. Hey, folks. Welcome back into the show. You're listening to Beyond the Blockchain. Here's Scott Tindall. We got Philip on the board keeping us between the white and the yellow as always. Well, great job. Thank you. Thank you. We've got Peter Tuller, the crypto arborist in studio with us and from a New Jersey studio. We've got Sierra Catalina one, the person that broke the X TV app news. And is currently getting ripped off by all these other media outlets, who won't give her the property. Yes. You know, we just say what we think on the show. We don't really hold back reimbursement. Yeah, there needs to be some kind of reimbursement for that enumeration, remuneration, reparations, even reparations. Oh my. It's like the the tree out of, you know, let's move on. Anyway, so we were talking before Peter, all right, off the air, we were talking a little bit about how you trained open AI to work on some of your arborist projects, and we kind of had a little discussion with was here off the air. Let's bring that discussion back on the air, tell me exactly what you're trying to do, how you're training it and what results you've seen by training the open AI, you know. So in AI, in real world use, in any professional trade, there's a set of standards that you go by and there's just any documentation that you would normally use that was sit on a bookshelf you would go out and find your problem to go back and research and study well in AI as Sierra who was the expert in this would say you have to properly train it. So in on the open AI website, I was actually able to upload all those documents into the AI to train it to give it an accurate understanding of the state of the history and you're giving it context. Correct. Yes, to be clear for our listeners, the only people that can actually train the AI models themselves to change their behavior are those who are working on them, but you can give it background context, which you should do as often as possible. So if you're looking for a specific answer on a really narrow topic or a niche industry, you should feed it as much background context as you can before asking your question and in the instance of like open AI's chat, KPT, or I think most of them now, honestly have local memory. You will effectively be kind of training your personal AI in that it will retain memory of that information and it can actually help it scrape the web more effectively in the future for topics. And that is desktop only correct where you can train it, right? Well, so again, nobody can actually train it other than the people building. Oh, no, you can do that anywhere. You can do that on mobile. I think I found it easier from a desktop with if we're talking about chat, KPT, actually you can attach files and web links on mobile for chat, KPT too, or you can just copy and paste like dump in long-form content. You can even just drop links in there and tell it to go read them and say like familiarize yourself with the context of these links and let me know when you're finished and it won't respond to immediately, obviously, because it's much, much faster than we do. But if you do it that way, there's still a little finicky a lot of the models with web links. So if you are feeding it links rather than long-form text, like I usually will just go to the link and copy all of the text and then paste that in there and send it and ask questions about it. If you are giving it just links, follow up and ensure that it actually read them, like ask it for a summary of the links that you've provided and then you can go on and continue to ask your information or your questions from there. That's good to know. Yeah, and like everything else in this industry, it's going to adapt and change and only get better probably weekly. I saw this post on XC of the day and it was talking about how fast AI is changing and I made the comment that I think AI is changing weekly what most industries wish they could do in a year. Like the level of adaptation, the level of growth, the level of sophistication is just moving at a rate that I don't think many people can comprehend. And when you start to add that in with the robotics that we're seeing, I mean, there's was X1s here that released the video of their robot where everyone on the internet was like, this is a human in a suit and they were like, "Nope, this is a robot." Yeah, so a company called One X released about a week ago now, a humanoid robot designed specifically to be helpful in the home. And yes, there was a lot of feedback from the initial damn video. Yes, I saw that by the suit case and so human in its interaction that people got. So the founder of that company posted about it and he said, one of the things he said was, we've made certain to ensure that this robot is safe for human interaction. And my response to him was, can you describe to me what you mean by unsafe or safe for human? Like, what do you mean? It's safe for human interaction because that leads me to believe that there are some activities that are not safe. Like, will this thing choke me to death in my sleep? Breaking. Well, so it is, I believe I don't have it in front of me, but I'm nearly in positive. Let me confirm that it's hydraulic power. And then it has a softer exoskeleton than your full on metal robot. So perhaps that's what I mean. Oh, I feel so much better now. Well, there is a robot company, I'm going to plug them. I love them so much. There's a robot company called Clone Robotics that if you want to see some freaky human-like robotics. Are they on X? They are. And I love Clone so much, but I also have two lists that I put robots on when I, internally when I think about them and those lists are runnable or outrunnable and like totally not outrunnable. And I'm going to be real with you, the Clone Robotics products are definitely leaning towards the totally not outrunnable, however, I once said something like that in a post that they shared. And one of the founders commented that it's making air quotes right now skin could be pierced with a, you might have said a spoon, but I'm going to say a fork just to cover my bases. And that was a hydraulic, is a hydraulic fluid based. I just always go back to that line in Westworld, which was written by Michael Kriton in the early 1970s, turned into a TV show on HBO maybe 10 years ago. But this person asked this humanoid, whatever it is, are you real? And she says, if you can't tell, it doesn't matter. What? Yeah, like that starter that ruled that is the world we're going to be in where literally the humanoid tells you, like, if you can't tell if I'm real, does it, does it matter? Whoa. I put that in my article on Sam Pearl Promorphism, and I thought of you when I did it. Where's your article, Sierra? Read that. On X. I'm pretty much exclusively on X and FM Radio once a week on two things. It's very true. You're on terrestrial radio, going out over the airways the same way we've been doing for 100 years. We're so antiquated and so old school. Oh, here it is, the double-edged sword of AI. Yeah. So, Peter, one of the things you'll notice from that article is Sierra refuses to use uppercase letters. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's just her thing. Really? We never talked about this? No, we never talked about this. But as I read it, I was like, "Sierra hates an uppercase. I don't know what it is." Wow. I use them for acronym and the letter "I." The "I" is because I don't like the way the lowercase "I" looks, and that's merely it, or it would be 100 percent lowercase for me. I started doing it years ago. I guess I can share this now because so many people do it, but I started doing it so that I would always recognize my own writing in digital form. You know how we have our own handwriting, and you can look at a note and be like, "Yeah, I wrote that." Right? Yeah. Well, I can look at things that I wrote digitally on the internet and easily go, "Yeah, I wrote that," or, "No, I didn't write that," because I have certain stylistic things that I use in my writing. Could I just take that and put your text in an AI and say, "Can you please capitalize all these letters that should be appropriately capitalized?" So, there's no reason for it, though. Really, the capital letters are pointless, except for acronyms. Wow. It's the "patriarchy." It's the "patriarchy." It's the "patriarchy." It's the "patriarchy." It's trying to hold without us down. That's what capital letters are. Yeah, you didn't need them. Like any time anyone tries to argue a case for capital letters, I'm sorry, you've been indoctrinated. Is that true? You don't need them. It's very curious. If you use punctuation, you're good. And KYC encrypted. Yeah. In KYC, I feel the same way about that. We got a giggle out of that. Yeah. And fingerprints. Right. Like, you know, overrated. Iris gaining. Now, that's the future. You know, I'm being honest with you. If I never had to remember a password again, and it could just scan my iris and give me access to my account, I would take the risk. If somebody would cut my eyeball out to get my passwords. Just get in there. We've talked about it. My passwords and my information is not worth cutting my eyeball out for. Right. I'm not that important that you want to come cut my eyeball out. That's right. I just want the convenience access of my account. Having all 10 fingertips being required that would still be better than two eyeballs. Wow. That's a fair debate to be had when we come back from the broke capital letters. I got to go home and spread the word about this. Yeah. Right. The house is going to wake out. It's a real thing. Here we go, guys. Welcome back to Beyond the Blockchain with Scott Tindall. Hey folks. Welcome back into Beyond the Blockchain. I'm your host, Scott Tindall. Talking about Blockchain technology, talking about AI, talking about X, formerly known as Twitter. Peter Tuller is here with us in studio. The crypto arborist. We're talking about some arboristic ideas earlier. Sierra Catalina, the New Jersey studio as always. Giving us the latest updates on X and she's our resident technology expert when we are like, "I don't really know what this means." He's always there to be like, "Oh, I think what you're asking is." So Peter, as we go into our last segment, tell me what's going on with you, what you got going on, and what are you in tune right now? So, right now on X, if you follow me, you'll see that I'm posting about a DeFi project called Mintstake Share. And on the crypto arborist YouTube channel, I've had the last, probably five or six videos have been about it, but it's a DeFi protocol or a DAP, as people call it, and it pays two percent interest compounded daily. And now what they're doing, they have absolutely taken off something that's been interesting since I last talked to you. There was an exploit on the protocol and the founder actually sealed the exploit and made the protocol even stronger and the liquidity is actually holding on very nicely. Let me pull some stats up here to be real quick. Right now on Mintstake and Share, the total supply right now is still 33 million. It actually has gone down because we've been burning tokens. And the whole thing to, let's see, that's the wrong page. We are at 27 million Mintstake Share that have been locked away, but here's what's interesting. So last time when I told you about it, there was a buy tax and a sell tax on the protocol. Sure. The founder, they're about to expand to the base network blockchain and they're introducing a thing called crypto lending. It's where you can take your profits out of Mintstake Share and you can deposit it into this what's called a sustainability pool and then once you pull it out, you can convert it basically into what's called a Mintstake Share stablecoin and then you can swap that out for regular stablecoin and put it out into real world use. So just swap it out for USDC or something like that. Right. And that way there's no sell pressure on the asset and then they, and this is similar to drip token. I don't know if people out there listening or familiar with that. Tell us about it. They, that once you converted into MUSD, there's, they have a, another portion of it to where you can actually lock the token up and you earn rewards in what's called MQTY. And then once you stake that, it pays you back into the stablecoin. So it's basically a never ending loop to where you can earn money and the loan that is taken out is a 0% loan that essentially what they're doing is they make it to where there's no sell pressure on the token. So as the token inflates because it produces new tokens every day, it's not dollars that produce, they have to figure out, they've figured out a mechanism to not create sell pressure on the token. Very fascinating project. Yeah, that's really interesting to me. I need to dive into it more to, to learn more, but I'm always interested in these new projects that are trying to create new avenues, you know, the Walt Disney Company has this great expression that says creativity is thinking new things, but innovation is actually doing new things. And so I'm always interested when people are doing new things to try and learn more about that and seems like type of thing that I should learn more about because I think and for our listeners also, they should learn more about it. It seems like it's something that is too hard for us to really comprehend in a two minute conversation. Yes. So go on my YouTube channel, I've got several videos about it. People will learn more about it. Where do they need to go? Go to search up the crypto arborist on YouTube and look at the three last videos that are on there. It talks a whole lot more about it. I've got a link tree that gives the protocols official links. They're going to have an AMA Thursday at 1 p.m. central standard time. And every week, I'm telling you, this is probably one of the most transparent protocols that I've been a part of. What's really neat about it is they have a referral system like say, if you get Sierra to get into this protocol, you get a percentage off when she converts her B&B into men's stake share. And then every day you have a choice, you can either compound at 2 percent or claim at 1 percent. And if she compounds every day at 1 percent, you get paid 1 percent of the value of what she's actually compounding. So this guy basically designed this to where every interaction in the protocol, the referral system, you're getting paid a certain amount. And what's even neater is, there's a down line on it to where when you get two or three layers deep in certain parts of it, you're still making money off of it. Interesting. Yeah, like I said, I'd like to learn more about it. I don't know enough to know other than I like innovation. I like when people are doing new things and so it seems like something that's pretty interesting that I should spend more time learning. I'm trying to diversify myself more in the defile world because just with a short amount of time spent in it, there is so much potential for residual income, it is ridiculous. And I think that's what a lot of people want, right? They want to find a way to use their money, to put processes in place, to help them provide. It's no different than people who buy, you know, real estate or rental homes or, you know, they're looking for ways to utilize that capital. For the listeners right now, follow me on X, go to PTRBrist, A-R-B-O-R-I-S-T. Yeah, you got to spell R-Brist 'cause, yeah, yeah, the handle is P-T-A-R-B-O-R-I-S-T. If you go on my profile right now, I just did a very basic post of my link tree. Go to the link tree and go and look at the top five or six links on there. That's my social media. You'll see a link that takes you in the men's stake share and the other protocols are there as well. There's even, there's one more that next time I come, I'll talk about it. It's got. There's a nut, there's two more than I'm looking into now. Cool. Well, you know, we appreciate you being on the show and enjoy it when we get a chance to visit with you. See, are any parting thoughts before we head on in to next week? Oh, before we do that, I should let everyone know. Next week's show will probably be recorded in advance because next Tuesday night at eight o'clock is the presidential debate between former President Trump and current candidate vice president Kamala Harris. So we don't expect the people will actually listen live. So we'll probably record that one in advance. Make sure you subscribe to Sierra's X account. That's a great suggestion. I'm going to do the same because she puts out some great content on AI. Sierra, I'm going to start leveraging your teaching. You put a lot of good content, provide a lot of value out there. So make sure guys go hit her subscribe button. It's only two bucks a month. I mean, my gosh, that's cheap. Get giver. Hey, everybody go hit it right now. Thank you so much. Oh, you're welcome. You put a lot of work into it. You can tell. Okay. Yeah, I'd like to educate or try. All right, folks, as Peter said, go check out Sierra Catalina one on X and join us next week on Beyond the Blockchain. Like I said, probably not live, but you know, we'll see. I'll leave you with this. One day my X account will be as cool as Sierra's. Mm. That's a tough. That's a tough. That's a tough challenge, maybe. (upbeat music)