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Dale Liesch - Lori Myles and Theresa Clower In to Light Art Exibit on drug addiction - Midday Mobile - Thursday 8-29-24
There will be no personal nor direct attacks on anyone and I would ask that you please try to Keep down the loud cheering and the clapping. There will be no booing and no unruly behavior With that this is painful and it will be for a long time After all these are a couple of high-stepping turkeys and you know what to say about a high stepper No step too high for a high stepper. This is midday mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM talk 106-5 was shot to tough. Yeah, I mean, I think everybody knows that you know Sean He took some licks. He hangs in there. Yeah, what's wrong with the beer? We got I mean the deal We got drink pretty good don't it. Did you hear what I said? This is a bathe council. I had no down about them. That doesn't suck Here we go our number two of midday mobile glad to have you along the phone number the text line 343 0106 3 4 3 0 1 0 6 for a phone call or a text and in addition if you have that FM talk 106 5 app you can use the microphone icon on the front page of the app there You know, just like the what do they call the landing pay? I don't know the front the main page there You'll see a microphone icon there at the bottom of the screen if you'll press that Let's your recorded message emails into the show and we can play it back here on the air All right It is that time of week to check in with my friend Dale leash from land yet land yet mobile calm We got tons of hard-hitting political stories to talk about. So first of all we'll talk about Do you let kids win at a game when it's parents versus kids Dale leash your hot take? Well, absolutely not and by the way, it's called a home page. Um, yeah, but is it on the app? Is it a home page on an app? It can be on the app or website. Okay, I always call them home pages on a website. Okay, so okay the home page on the Thank you. Okay, very good. So we got that cleared up, but yes, so this no no, no Yeah, we can you can beat the crap out of your kids. Absolutely you can so what happened Dale and I were talking beforehand cuz the boy dog getting ready to hit one of the the local Kids entertainment zones here tomorrow with the bumper vehicles and the video games and the ski ball and all that and I think they have a Some kind of laser, you know tag thing there as well, but Dale said okay lay that y'all were at a party With the kids and it ended up being parents versus kids in this laser tag thing Yeah, and there are a lot obviously there are a lot more kids than adults that participated So it was like two two to one. Yeah, they were eight nine years old. I don't see the point. What's your point? My point is so so y'all engage so they decided is all the kids against the parents and then Uh, did you did you uh? Like slow up a little bit or slow your flow let the kids win this or what happened? No, no, we absolutely dominated those kids absolutely dominated them But that michael jordan mean it was fantastic way to go dad. So Yeah, no, we had uh, we had an air force. We had an air force guy on our team. It was very intense It was great. Did y'all talk. Did you talk trash to the kids as you were laser tagging them out? I mean kind of yeah laughing their face stuff like that sure dad of the year dale leash We dominated man. It was great I recommend you don't recommend. Yeah, but you also have to I mean figure out these are the people who are going to make you know Decisions about us when we're old and infirm. So if you let them win a record, I'll be I'll be dead long before that. It's fine. You'll be dead before your lord is holding infirm. I like too much Yeah, yeah, you have too much too much too many big backs. I'll be long dead. It's fine. Okay. That's how you're playing the short game. I'm following it. All right Be here for be here for a good time not a long time. Sure. Okay. Y'all text him Would you do what dale and his uh fellow parents did at this thing? Would you would you dominate the eight and nine-year-olds in the laser tag gamer? Would you let them win? Let me know on the text line while we do that. Okay. This is We talked about this last week and now update here this week over at landnetmobile.com Retreat carol was in councilman William carol and the administration worked together on the affordable housing plan. This is It was contentious, but I remember I talked to you last week. I said it sounds like they're kind of Wanting to do the same thing explain. I guess go back and talk about what they're asking today They were pitching very very similar ideas that it was very contentious and I think part of the contentious nature of it was that I think William carol is a little bit blindsided by the fact that the administration come out with their own plan When he'd been working on his for a number of years So so that that's the baseline it but that's the baseline, but yeah, they're essentially they're very similar plans The difference is how much money is being invested and where that money is coming from or the two main Differences and I think also the and I mentioned it in this latest story. I think one of the bigger Challenges that they're going to have come in eye to eye on this. Uh, and I do think they'll they'll find some sort of consensus by uh Next council meeting. I think you'll see some sort of thought on something Uh, but one of the biggest issues is who's going to be in control of it? Will it be like a separate executive director and a quasi-government board that will oversee the projects or will it be the city which has uh As overseen projects like this in the past and to William carols, uh You know, uh mind as maybe not done as it's quickly Or as efficiently as he would like so so I think that's the big stumbling point I think the city would like to see Obviously the administration likes to see the city remain in in in in control of the prod of this sort of affordable housing Project Uh ideas and then and then William carol would like now. Let's let's uh, let's let like a third party Do it and see what happens with it. So so that's kind of that's kind of the difference here and and it'll be interesting to see what sort of uh consensus they come to could it be a gonna be a hybrid of the both of the two where you have You know where you have maybe an executive director Uh, and you don't have a a quasi-governmental board if executive director or another staff member Uh, uh, who's maybe a little separate of the city. Maybe it's a council position. Maybe it's something like that uh some sort of hybrid where they can do this Uh, and uh, and do it the way William carol wants or are they going to push it more towards? We're going to do it, but the city's in the control. It'd be interesting to see what happens Yeah, it's interesting on both sides like we began with uh, they they want to do This thing for housing and the thing is the way I understand it you can help me But it would be yeah incentive money. Maybe to make it. I think we talked about last week While there's you don't have to incentivize maybe somebody Fixing a house up in oakley, right? But if somebody's on the campground or the bottoms can can they put the money in the property? To fix it up and then get that money back out of it Is this with that money like if you and I went in and we remodeled a house there in the campgrounds or something like that And then but the asking price Was too high, you know What we had to get to make it with the city come in and cut us a check for the difference or would they give us money to start? Do you understand do you know what they're going to try to do with that? Well, the the idea would be to get to get the money to start, right? Okay, it wouldn't it wouldn't start with developers. It wouldn't start with you and me Doing it the idea would be that the city would do it to begin with and they do it block by block They would take a block of say four houses that are all in disrepair And they would fix them up and we'd get them ready to move in and they would move people in and that they They'd sell the houses To to buyers the the money that they got from the buyers would then go into a revolving fund That would be used to do other blocks. And the idea is if you do enough of that then did you and I come in as developers and say Oh, I like what you I like what the city is doing here. Let me help and I'll put into market rate housing Along with some of this uh a tangible affordable workforce housing So that that's sort of the idea and like I said both plans From my perspective both plans both the city's plans and Williams carols plan would have That similar aspect to it where you're insensitive that where you're incentivizing Developers instead of the developer having to come in and say i'm going to spend all this money up front To repair all these homes to make it to where it's a attractive place to live And then business will come in and i'll start making money Instead instead of a you know developers don't typically like to do that where they have to put a lot of money up front and then wait So in this case the city or the group would come in Put up the money fix up the houses and then the developers would come in on the back end and say well We're going to add this this and this because you guys have made it attractive and and affordable people want to live here So that's that's sort of the idea The the city has properties that it owns right Foreclosures whatever that they can do that on but when you say the city does so that makes sense And the city does does do that and they use type they use some hud funds But but Williams Williams carols idea is that they're not they're doing a house here in a house there. He really wants to look at it Block by block neighborhood by neighborhood to get the most effective You know get the most effective change rather than doing it one house at a time It's very similar to the way they kind of brought oakley guy and that was more of a private Situation I'll make the city was involved that much at the in the beginning where you had revolving funds in oakley that would fix up these old old houses Move people in and kind of revitalize the neighborhood. That's the same same idea It's up. That's campground and it's the bottom instead of oakley Yeah, it does make sense to me to grow the grow the snowball that way get it going that it builds But you said this a couple times that the city would would fix up the properties when you say that with the city hire contractors or Is you know Down there and you know Putting up drywall You'd have to have you'd have to have somebody You know either hired by the city or hired by the board that would talk about it depending on which plane you went with To manage the project and hire the contractors to do the work. Yes, it would be it would not be city Would not be city employees when they're working would be private contractors Okay, just joining us starting to daily from land yap land at mobile.com and other stuff story We talked about last week more on this now. That is the plan to roll back pay incentives for public safety employees. This is It had never get this right. It is for merit. No, not non merit the not the Which employees you don't call merit employees the other no no no no they are they are they are merited these are merited Very system employees. Yeah, so very system employees And how that was done before for police with incentive money and I know we talked about that years ago About how the language had to be this versus that and then of course we had the lawsuit from mobile fire and rescue What's happening now on this what's changing and does this solve the the issue the disparity between police and fire? I think I think I think it definitely solves the the The paycare issue for sure because what it does is it does away with all of the incentives and that was the the crux of the issue was that the latest incentive that the snips administration had had allowed for I think I think most police officers under a certain level were eligible for it as well as fire marshal or city fire marshals who are with the fire department Those those people were were offered an incentive or had the opportunity to go to center where other Like baseline firefighters and fire medics were not allowed and that was the crux of That was the crux of the lawsuit. What gets does does away with all of those most of those incentives, right? It says we're not going to do we're not going to do this incentive base pay anymore. It's you know 50 years old. It's It's not working or it's it's I mean it's they didn't say it's not working. They said it's You know, it's kind of outlived with usefulness and we're going to a Basically a more of a regular salary base That's a all of the firefighters and police officers. I believe if you're below the I think it affects you if you're below fire the level of fire captain and if you're low below the level of police lieutenant all of those folks Mostly folks at the bottom. We'll see a pay bump Where they were going to have incentives, they'll see it like a salary bump And it raises I think it raises overall salaries for the most part and the only incentives that are remaining are the education incentives related to a bachelor's degree master's degree and our associate's degree those all result in 5% pay bumps Or for either side and then you also had a pay bump for Those fire medics who are willing to ride actually ride in an ambulance Not that they're available to ride. They actually have to ride in an ambulance. That's a $4 an hour pay bump for The fire medics to ride in an ambulance those right now those are the only incentives that are still allowed as part of the plan But you're going to see The starting pay for this means that the starting pay for firefighters and police officers will rate rise from I'm going to get this right $43,000 even $51,000 for quite a pretty big increase Yeah, you quoted for first for people just started out You quoted the bear in your story saying this will stop a lot of the turnover in public safety And I do wonder about that dale because I mean it's you know This running deal where officers come to mobile, you know, the kind of mobile go through the training Work for mobile police department and then some of them If I can say a lot a percentage of them then leave and go to different departments Whether they are here in the county or in Baldwin county or even with the sheriff's department Well, I mean I think you're still going to run into the issue that Working in the city will be all is a little bit more grueling than working in Baldwin county So if the ball and county sheriff's gonna offer you certain amount of money mobile could I'm just you know Both of them can offer the same amount of money and they may still go to Baldwin because they're like My patrol is going to be a lot easier But for the most part from a case standpoint, it should make it a lot Should make it a maybe a little bit harder of a decision for folks who are like I could go over to Baldwin county But but they're paying me the same and we'll be off the mobile so it's or pay me a little bit more You and maybe in some cases, so I think I think that definitely will stop the like the mayor said it will stop the the The transition from from one agency to another and they actually said that they're going to be fully staffed in the police department Next year and that there's a recruiting class of 40 in the next in the next Police academy, so they're going to have a number of cadets coming in Uh, that's I guess they plan to be fully staffed in the police department. So that is that's some pretty good news Hey, yeah, Dale before we wrap up. This isn't your story. There's a scott story scott johnson story But uh, maybe this is a little bit of a tease for people to check out some more of uh, what's going on at lane at mobile.com that Earlier in the week when I saw this I said is the acronym pronounce? Uh, the make mobile grade again. This is maybe the return or is it the return of former mobile county commissioner steve noton to a political life? It sure sounds like he's got interest in running for Uh, political office. I know there's been a lot of talk about him running for mayor of the circuit enough, but I think he's mostly talked about running for specific, uh Some specific city council seats Uh, I don't think he told us specifically which ones they were So i'm not gonna I won't uh, I won't devolve any specifics, but I will say there is one that's coming up Where uh, where a certain council member is retiring and we're not running again So that you know keep an eye on that one. It definitely does seem like he is I ain't a return to public lives After, uh, you know after all the stuff that's happened in the past. All right. Well, we will be watching this and now y'all can read more over at lane at mobile.com. Tell people how that yeah, that's on our website. Yeah, tell me how to get signed up Please laying here on bill.com is the website Uh, uh, you can subscribe through through the portal there Uh, on the it's on our home page So check it out. Uh, you know, we're locally owned and operated Uh, we really try to focus on statewide and local news. So so, uh, we really appreciate your support Newsstands and uh purple boxes everywhere for the for the paper edition, but you're really doing yourself a disservice If you don't subscribe to the website because that all you get everything to the paper you get all the breaking news stories as well So check it out. All right, as always dale. I appreciate it. Get back to uh beating uh kids at kids games. All right Thank you buddy gladly coming right back for mid day mobile This is mid day mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM talk 106 five All right, so welcome back mid day mobile on this Thursday the segment of the show brought to you by my friend and recent birthday boy For a long heavy birthday. Oh man. 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So there you go We'll get some of these when we come back This is mid-day mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM talk 106 5 30 5 FM talk 106 5 and mid-day mobile glad to have you along on this Thursday and a reminder too because somebody else saying Hey, it's too late to get in college pick them. It is not I hate saying this because somebody'll say well, I can just wait till then you could as long as you're in the college pick Them competition for the radio station before the first game on the list starts on Saturday. 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She thought of it She didn't want to have to be in this position to think of it, but she's really making a difference And so when I read about it I wanted to join in on it and put my son's story in it as well. So why don't you talk about how you founded it? Thank you and thanks for having us shawn um into light is a national organization I didn't have any anticipation of getting it to that point. However um as lori said, I I lost my own son to a an accidental overdose in 2018 and as a way of working through that grief I began Portrait work and I drew def's portrait and that was the beginning of the interlight project So we what we are doing in every state in the country and and alabama is our 12th state We invite families throughout the state to submit loved ones who have died from drug addiction and to not only provide their images but their story and Or answers to narratives and from that we create original graphite portraits of each individual So lori son harrison is in this exhibition and the narrative or story about his life um is also so we have 41 people at the student center all from alabama And the point of all this is to change that conversation about addiction to really humanize this as a disease which it is and to open up conversations so that It normalizes this and it raises that stigma and shame that so many people who suffer from this disease feel and their families feel You know, both of you have lost a son here to to this As you talk to people You'll obviously speak a language that none of us have not dealt with the tragedy you have speak But as you do talk to other people you're expressing it, you know, we're talking about the narrative also expressing it through art So tresso What about the art seems to bridge bridge the gap here? What about that? Art has an amazing ability to communicate in ways that we don't have words for So as an artist now, I we have a team of people now that draw for us nationally as well as writing I can't do all the portraits, but I can tell you i've done over 300 of them And I look into the eyes of these individuals and first there is something it's hard to describe it, but you can Not only me as the artist, but the individual looking at these Portraits can get into the soul so much quicker through the use of that pencil Uh, and it's it's that's the area that soul area is what we want people to feel So art has a it's also an interesting metaphor. I chose very clearly. I remember saying black and white Black and white is what I want to represent not paint Um, not anything but black and white and the reason for that is It's a metaphor. We're all made up of black and white and no one should be defined by their darkest moment You don't get the full picture. So that's why you chose graphite Versus so that when you talk about that people looking at the eyes of in these in these drawings Are what do you watch from people? Is it connection? Is it empathy? Is it sympathy as you've done this, you know through these other states? If you stand back and watch people, what do you see? Yeah? I obviously um in we want the empathy we want the Understanding we want that compassion Um, we want them to understand like hey, this could have been my own brother. Hey, this could have been my My spouse, my father, whomever Um, these people are ours and that's what we want. So the exhibit is really a tool More than anything. It's it's beautiful in and of itself. We have buttons that go along with every portrait We ask people to pick those up and wear them. It's an ask me about campaign. It's our walking exhibit if you will Um, but what we really want is for those souls those stories To be understood and to Change hearts and minds about addiction That's the ultimate goal. Yeah, it's reason when you say change hearts and minds and laurie and i've had So many conversations about the death of harrison But you change hearts and minds of people that are going through it themselves or community around them You know, who are you? I mean you with somebody who has a problem sees this or ask about campaign and then they go get treatment or is it Community members or family members that that are watching like who who is this for who's the audience is what you're asking and it's really both Because what if if stigma is if someone who is suffering from addiction? Feels that they are respected and listened to they're much more likely To go and talk to loved ones or go to health professionals and ask for that help If I know my own son had a door slammed in his face. I saw that happen Um, that's not from like by society or by no, it's not it's not it was literal It was a health care provider. It was the end of the day And she didn't want a thing to do with them bam. The door was shut We have to change that, you know have compassion So it's not only the individuals that are Are looking at the show. It's also the people that may be uh needing the help that could benefit by Understanding that there are a lot of other people that look just like me and they're also struggling So, you know kind of making more of a community Um of empathy is is what we're looking to do Teresa has done this around the country now here at home. Uh, my friend bori you bring in Uh, Harrison's story into the mix I saw it this afternoon for the first time and it took my breath away To see his photo up there. It was very beautifully done But as I sat back and I watched and Teresa word was doing some other interviews. I watched students It's in the student center at the university of south, Alabama And I watched them reading the portraits now some of these perhaps could be freshman Who are going to parties for the first time? Experimenting with drugs. So it's an educational tool for them to be where as you read these stories You you hear like in my son's case it began later You know and and and it just built he started with one it went to another and then No one intends for them to end their life But it just happened because it was addiction and there are people that get help We also want to you know show that positive tool. There are people that because of these deaths Have gone and gotten help and now they're in recovery So that's a positive thing, but I I was really amazed at the students reading it And I'm happy of where the exhibit is right now because it's getting a lot of traffic So this yeah, this is at the student such uh center at the university south, Alabama The opening you said is tonight. It is the same Now how again we'll come back and talk about that, but how long is this going to be open people can come see this? Yeah, it's on the campus until june of next year. Oh wow. Yeah, okay And and it'll be in the student center through the early december Then it's going to move to the archaeology museum on campus. So we'll have two locations We're also trying to to reproduce this exhibition and and spread it even further So by reproducing it, we can take it to other parts of the state and many people that submit it love ones come from berminghan and beyond Um that we so we we're actually looking for ways to reproduce it in terms of sponsorship But it's um, it's pretty powerful and I do I think loy brings up a really good point We also want to drive home. There is there is medical help It's a disease not unlike any others and there is medically assisted treatment So it's not a dead end for people they can get treatment and they can get through this You know as a as something on the periphery of this and watching this has and if so, I just asked both of y'all Do you think this treatment access and efficacy is getting better? Depends on who you ask um in my Situation, we know data research medical research has come out For an addictive brain from opioids. It's going to take a full year To help get that what? Rewiring of the brain you not talked about this before and and programs are usually from what? A month and it's driven by Interns companies. So, you know, you you'll listen this because i was talking about before that the stats show that this could A year a full year, but we're sending people to to get better get, you know Get off the addiction and we're giving them two weeks or giving them four weeks and that's it. I mean If we were treating another ailment right that this is and they said here's the treatment for Pancreatic, you know, pancreatitis, whatever it is, you would say, okay. Well, it you have to do x y and z to cure the thing You wouldn't do half that Exactly. So why are we still doing half that insurance won't pay for it? We're trying to figure that out ourselves and um We just got to keep creating this awareness and put pressure on those that make that decision um We don't really know how to do that, but we're we're beginning that process as well I mean the medical field and The people in treatment running these programs already know that and but they're fighting They've got to get paid Their company has to get paid and they know what they're up against because if x y, you know, if you have an insurance with this one, they only cover it for 60 days so I said have that process ends it what about The treatment facility not there, but they're for the long term, but are there more places for somebody To go did not have the door slammed in their face Teresa. Are there more places that will Say I am going to talk to you. I am going to help you then maybe there were five years ago 10 years ago Do is any of that changing is there any movement to the right? I think they're I think certainly um with big pharma and the um the whole Episode well, it's not an episode but for the so much attention was placed on the um The greed if we will of of these pharmaceutical companies are paying for that now So yeah, there's certainly much more awareness. There is more funding available and the government is providing more funding Uh, it's more difficult to set up a treatment center now because of that which is good because it is okay Tell me why because so many of the treatments centers at my own son I can't speak for Harrison and Lori, but they were a joke They were an absolute joke and they cost every time he went into something about 35 grand This is the silent part people families are stretched financially to try and support their loved ones And these organizations that are so called you're grabbing at straws You're trying to help in ways and you're not familiar with the territory So you do what you think is best as a family And you turn around after the end of it and realize that was just 35 000 thrown away because that did nothing Wow, uh, wow and and still not even get in the people responsible for this Um, I don't you know, I don't know why they're not in in prison, but um, but that That money out there they came which is a pittance for what it should have been to go and There is a protocol now. There is there's a way to judge these facilities and say I mean, I'm ignorant Is there a you know point a beat you got to have a bcd much tighter control now definitely much tighter And so i'm so somebody i love one or that or that person with the disease Should feel better that this place is ready for them now than they would have been 10 years ago Yeah, I think so yeah, but it also depends on the market like where you are there's probably more opportunity Here we don't even have a detox place so You know, we have that's what we're looking That's one of my main goals at looking in this area to get detox Because we have to go as far as warrior, Alabama. Yeah, I mean so pretty much a Birmingham Uh, and the detox is a portion of it, but then I know that just after detox there's still that doesn't mean You're not in in danger anymore, right? This is he so I mean there you can be Detoxed, but it's still in your mind, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah, and with opioids You know, we've talked before with Virginia being in here. There's certain triggers in their brain And like for Harrison, you know, he was in for 40 days doing well Um, he's not that great of an actor to fool everyone. I believe he was on his way to sobriety Then he goes back to his house that afternoon sees something he left behind and Uses and then the path's journey starts all over again Yeah, and what do we do now going forward that even as uh, uh, laws closed down this free flow of of opioids to people for About anything out there then filling in when that goes away. Here's you know and fentanyl is stepping in and and now it's on the streets Well, and you know, also too I think we have to face the facts that people that have Addiction will use so are we really interested in? Saving their lives and if we are then we need to set up safe places for them to use and this is very controversial but you know, if you have a supervised area and you know That you are going to be using whatever illicit drug there is You can go there. You will be everything's tested. That's where they're testing idea. And you know, there are countries around the world that Are are quite different than our country and we do have a one of the highest rates of Of drug addiction in our country. I don't pretend to be a certainly someone who is extremely knowledgeable about this But I can tell you that when There is a tribe a Lummi island, uh, Washington state tribe that has Witness around the world the best way to deal with this and they're putting together a community based Organization that has had fabulous results and they have a very high rate Of addiction and they are going about it first and foremost by asking those impact at the most What do they need? What do you want? And they that was the very first survey and it has gone on and on and it is amazing They're more they're being they're successful. Yes more than the mean Absolutely. So it's a because i'm a best practices kind of person if there's somebody doing something if there's people out there doing something better Than shouldn't we be taking notice? Yeah, exactly. Absolutely. Yeah, and what Teresa said is providing safe places I think before I probably would have thought oh, absolutely not i've changed but it's about keeping them alive We want them alive. That's exactly right. Of course. Harrison would be alive. Devon would be alive. Yeah Thousands and thousands we have a I mean, there's just uh the unbelievable stories that this project's on earth We have a 14-year-old in our exhibit in california still had braces on his teeth and he just was experimenting and Gone 14 And that's not an isolated situation Um, so we need to do things better. Yeah, we're gonna go obviously Now if you're if we're not being successful with the way we're doing it now and somebody else has more success Why wouldn't we pair that and as we get this money in that we know states are getting money from this You know from all the lawsuits with the opioids we need to make sure it's used for prevention Education and treatment We have to make sure Absolutely, uh tonight, uh opening night six o'clock tonight six to eight tonight and uh, that's going to be at the usa student center Uh to reset more information on your projects I know you're here, but you're other places in the country if people want to read up more on How do they get website or social media into light project no the into light project.org um if people listeners are interested in Um helping us in any way other states bringing reproduction of this, you know Simply bringing it to other parts of alabama. We would welcome There's a contact form you can fill out on our website any information anyone interested could certainly get in touch with us Pretty quickly and I do want to say lori has been fantastic in alabama in helping us break into Um the media and just getting the word out and so I really want to give you some some A shout out for that you've been fantastic. She is fantastic. She's both by many of us Teresa vori. Thank you. Thank you for your Uh continued willingness to try to help others even through y'all's grief All right coming right back out we'll put more information up on our facebook page about the event tonight But this is going on uh going forward to there's uh time plenty of time for you to get by and see this be right back This is mid-day mobile with Sean Sullivan on fm talk 106.5 I took 157 fm talk 106.5 and mid-day mobile on this thursday wrapping it up for this thursday Good all again tomorrow a tomorrow on the show to secretary of state west alan is going to join me Uh, we'll talk about of course, uh the the findings that have driven a lot of conversation on the show It was secretary state west alan came on like a week or two before he finally got the information Uh that he rolled out that uh over 3000 Uh people that were legally in the united states, but not legal to be on federal voter rolls We're on federal vote voter rolls in alabama. He's going to talk more about that story now Since there's been some movement on it. He'll join us around 1230 tomorrow on mid-day mobile paul fine bomb show on the way next [Music]