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Beyond the Blockchain 8-27-24 the squad talks Boeing, Telegram, online child security,
Welcome to Beyond the Blockchain with Scott Tindall, a discussion of blockchain technology, cryptocurrency, and why it matters to you. Hey folks, welcome into Beyond the Blockchain. We're here with you on a Tuesday night, Tuesday, Johnny Gwynn is with us in studio. How are you doing, buddy? I'm here. I'm here. It makes me happy. You have Philip on the board. Philip, how are you, buddy? I'm doing great. We're going to have Sierra Catalina coming in out of the New Jersey studio as well. She's here. You know, it makes for a fun show with the studio. Let her say something. Is she there? We don't even know if she's there. Sierra, are you here? I'm here. Oh, wow. Well, thank God for that. Okay. Because we were, I mean, it's a long way from Mobile to New Jersey, so. That was almost a failure to launch just starting right there. Oh, right. It's like a SpaceX can't get their launch off the ground. They've got their stuff together. It's probably a Boeing problem. Yeah. Did you see that? Yeah, I'm just going to jump into weird news months. Boeing today had a tire explode in Atlanta and killed two Delta workers. Oh, that's what that was. Yeah. A tire exploded and killed two Delta workers. On the ground? Like at the gate or correct? Wow. Yeah. So Boeing's got their own issues, but that's a big way. Dude, it's like they are truly like cursed. It's like, I don't know, I have no idea what, what, again, obviously there's quality control issues going on there, but it doesn't seem like more other airlines seem to be having those issues. I know that, you know, here. Sorry. Not here. Lots air makers. Sorry, because they all use Boeing. Not around here. You're a mobile. We're in Airbus city. Well, we are definitely in Airbus city and we don't have those problems. Yep. They obviously name them. Princees make a good plane. I mean, they're terrible on free speech, but they can make a plane. Oh, we were going to go there in the second segment. Well, you might as well. I'm teasing it up. I don't know much about it here. Well, you're teasing it up. What you're going at is the, the CEO of Telegram, who has both, well, he's got triple citizenship. Russia's one. You got Russian. Yep. French and UAE. Citizen. What did you see? Okay. The French canceled, the front of the French's arrest the guy, right, for, for his telegraph was not. Telegram. Telegram was not monitoring the actions of users on the platform. That's right. So he's in France and he gets picked up by the French's. And so he is there now under whatever charges are doing, and then, and then, and then the Jean-garde. And the way he does what, and retribution. So in, in kind of a tip for tap, the UAE cancels an order of airplanes worth 80 or more billion dollars. Yeah. I mean, it's a, it's an early number, but it's going to be a big number. Yeah. I'm getting that's Airbus. Probably. In France. Gotta be. No, no, no, not Airbus. It's not Airbus. I wouldn't think so. But Airbus is technically, all right. So, yeah. But there's a bunch of Germans here too. They have, to lose France is an operational center, a Hamburg, Germany is an operational center. As long as I'm not hallucinating myself. Then they have an operational center in Southeast Asia. So there's four big operational centers, Mobile being one of the four. Dang. Wow. I knew it was a big deal. Pretty impressive. Yeah. So this, the guy's name is a Pavel. Pavel. Sierra knows all these people. Sierra, do you know this Pavel, this Pavel gentleman? The CEO. Yeah. We all have in coffee last week. But you tend to know a lot of these luminaires and I'll stick and maybe you might spend a little time with them. Ooh, I thought you were about to say these illuminates. No, no, luminaires. Luminaires. Luminaires. I don't know enough about this guy. He's an Illuminati. Or an Illuminati. I don't know enough about this guy, he's an Illuminati or an Illuminati. I'll get arrested. I'll tell you that right now. Hmm. So you may get arrested. He would have known beforehand. But Sierra knows people. I was just wondering. Sierra, do you know this? I have the privilege of meeting Pavel, but I will say it's something that a lot of people maybe don't realize about Telegram is pretty much a social media act. With large chat groups. So you can DM people and have one-on-one message action. You can also open end-to-end encrypted messages, but they're not that way automatically. You have to enable sending, so Telegram was counted for a long time as being a secure communication platform and that's just really not what it is. It's a public forum. Yeah, at this point, can we assume anything is this secure platform? I mean, not Telegram, not Signal, not, I mean, took it a long time to get into that, would-be assassins three accounts on his phone. I mean, my goodness, how sophisticated could that be? Well, apparently, that guy was on his P's and Q's with his two-factor authentication phone. Well, again, maybe so. Well, then how come people can crack my Coinbase account? Well, your password is... Pass 1-2-3-4? Yeah. It's not a fast 1-2-3-4. That makes a lot of sense. All right, folks, when we come back, we'll all change the way to a lot more nonsense. Welcome back to Beyond the Blockchain with Scott Tindall. If we'll welcome back into the show, you listened to Beyond the Blockchain. What you missed during the break was us talking about how simple all of our passwords are and why yours should be more sophisticated than what we have. The answer here is not as simple as you would think, because your password can be hacked fairly easily, but don't give them the easy way out. Don't make them work for it. Don't make it your kid's birthday. Make them Russian hackers work for it. Don't make it your address. No. Address is a good one. Your bird. And your kid's name. Kids' names. Kids' birthday. Dogs' names. Dogs' names. Your anniversary. Not your birthday. Not your first crush, because the internet knows who that is. Even if she doesn't. First chick you hooked up with, still terrible answer. Or bands. Don't do bands either. Yeah. Because people go, "Oh, the clash, oh, the clash," and then all the other people. Pajani loves the... He loves widespread panic. It's got to be widespread panic when it's free. You could just pick something really obscure. Well, you know, Philip listens to really obscure. Johnny listens to... Taylor Swift. Yeah, you do listen to this one. No, I don't listen to this one. You are swift. I won't let that go out in the air. I can't do it, man. I can't. Hey, hold on. She was totally fine. She was a good wireless. She was a talented lady, and writes her own music, but it's just not my cup tea. That's funny. Yeah. You know? Everybody's got their own thing. Sure. Sure. You have to. I feel like... She makes her run on now. No? No? Sorry. If there are any Swifties listening, I mean you absolutely no offense, but I... Thank God for that, because we'll get our show cancelled. If you get the Swifties angry at us, this show will cease to exist. I don't think we have a lot of... I mean, she's a really talented individual, probably, for people who like that. Right. I don't like caviar. It's special. I don't like it. You know who Sierra loves? Mac Miller. I don't know who that is. The back. I do. I love Mac Miller. I love Mac Davis. I love Mac Davis. Is that the same? Mac Miller's a good dude. He's a hip hop rapper, and I wonder. He's past now. He's moved on. Well, rappers don't have a very... Their expiration date is very early. They're old. Yeah. That's why I know a guy who... Yeah, he was young. He was 26. I know a gentleman who ensures high-risk clients. How was that? He does rappers. I was hoping we would go there. He does rappers, and he is one of five people roughly in the whole nation that will do this, and he says them premiums are high because the actuaries are... Their existence is very, very fragile. It is bad. And the bigger they are, the... The bigger the premium. Targets are on them. Yeah. It's insanity. Yeah. Yeah, that's a really real... Really weird world there. Yeah. He's just... That person is just now starting to understand crypto because he has to because the hip hop world has always kind of been a part of the crypto world. Well, they're kind of punk rock, right? They're kind of punk rock. Well, they got it early. Well, they got it early. And they had money to play with, and they were making money very early. I mean, early days of crypto was... I mean, again, if you just sat and waited. Wait, 2013? Well, 2013, '14, I mean, one of the guys, my earliest, like, mentor, but someone who gave me stock tips, I mean, crypto tips on Facebook, he was a guy who went to South Alabama. He was in Mobile, Alabama, and he went out to LA. And he worked in like production of rap videos, hip hop videos. Well, for him to hang out with his friends, he would go and he would trade on KuCoin and different exchanges. And then he was showing what he learned over three years because he was very good at day trading. Interesting. Yeah. Very good. But he said, "That's the only way I could do it. Either I was going to Vegas that week, but if I didn't make enough money on crypto exchanges, I couldn't do it." So that was how he did it. So I think that's actually a really good kind of intro into emerging technologies, typically find their ways into punk rock, or out. Well, it's always the edges. Michael Malice says innovation comes from the edges. Yeah, people who have nothing to lose, or I don't have anything, so me doing something that's innovative, why wouldn't I do it because I've nothing to lose anyway? Yeah. Yeah. So that totally makes sense to me. I mean, I would be surprised if that's kind of the cornerstone of some of these crypto projects. Because one of the things I like most about hip hop, rap, punk rock, any of these things is it's like the system is irrelevant to me. DIY. Do yourself. I'm going to figure out my own way, and I don't really care by the way everybody else has done it. I have a lot of colorful language I would normally use if we weren't on the air to describe that at a homeless winter. But that is something that I think is really fascinating. And I think it's also something that we'll continue to see is the edges of technology, the edges of society will adapt much faster than, oh, I'm just a 60 year old accountant who manages, well, whatever the hell I mean. Look how long it took for computers to get in the home, compare that to the use of the internet, and then everything else since then, everything is faster, faster, faster, faster. I mean, look, my God, Serena has a car that drives itself. Finally, Dick Tracy comic books are coming true. All the things we saw, several, I don't see a jetpack, the jetpacks are still not out there where you can buy them. But other than that, they're-- I don't think jetpacks we've had for a long time, they're actually just not very cross effective to develop. Well, what I'm saying is, it's not an easy part to get your-- I mean, like, you know, the Dick Tracy, you know, watch is, we have it now, you know, the crazy, self-driving cars, all those things, but you're right. I mean, the things that are on the-- I can't believe how fast goes from what I say is way out of my comfort zone, and within one year, it's like, my gosh, my dad's dealing with that thing. So there's this phrase, I was posting about it on my ex earlier and it says, gradually, then suddenly, all at once, and that's a bankruptcy, collapse of an economy, it's gradually then all of a sudden. Also a bankruptcy technique. Well, in this not just for an economy, it's for a business as well, right? Yeah, right. Yes. Gradually, then suddenly, all at once. So it works in both trajectories. It works in a bankruptcy situation, in a technology situation, right, where it's like, all the sudden, you meet this wall where it's like, you're going to overcome the wall or you're going to be done by the wall. Right. And also, the other thing is not innovating. Look at my space. My space was everything, and they went away very quickly. I mean, if you don't innovate-- Or did that guy win by selling it for $500 million? Of course. Did he do that? I know. He's sort of-- What happened to my space? Well, it became a music distribution thing for a while, but I think, oh boy sold it for like $500 million. And he was like-- Who Tom, the guy that did the original Tom? And then he was like, I don't care what happens after that. Of course. So I gave me $500 million. So I gave me $500,000. That'd be the goodbye money to me. Yeah. Let's see. I mean, geez, I've never had anything pay off like that. But it's the same thing like Vine. What happened to Vine? Well, it got acquired by Twitter, and then Twitter didn't know what to do with it. And then they created Periscope, which Periscope had a very big community, and then that goes away. Wow. So-- He was top 50 easily. Sock cop from Mobile, Alabama, he's huge on Twitch now on YouTube. But Periscope. I remember he was-- No, he was the top 50 performer. I mean, yeah. Oh, when Sock cop who runs the puppet guy, I'm not gonna say his name, I'm not gonna ruin his-- Don't ruin his personal life. But you know, he was like, they're flying him all over the country. Periscope was for all these conventions, all these awards shows, he was like, you gotta be kidding me. I literally have a sock puppet that's a cop from the past that went into the future and only deals with Speeders. Yeah. And that's what he does. But he and he's brilliant, but yes, he was very huge. And I want to tell you what, when it went away, he had to start over. He had to start over. Do you remember Axe cop though? I don't remember that. That was an internet comic strip, and it turned into a cartoon, and he got fairly popular and famous. I do not-- look, I make things, but I am not a content creator. I can't get three people to like the things I do. Well, you typically get at least one. Well, you-- Or Sierra. Yeah. Yeah. At least me. But I'm seriously content creator. And I'm trying different things right now, and all of them are falling flat on my face. So-- Sierra, ooh, you know what we need to talk about after the break? We got a little bit before we go after the break. Sierra has a post that's blowing up right now on X about how to protect your children on the internet. Oh, about covering faces? Oh, it's not just covering faces. Okay. It is far more sophisticated than that. Sierra, after the break, would you be willing to-- like, because that's like a whole segment on how to protect your children from the internet, that would be a good one. What I loved was about a week ago, Sierra posted her son at Legoland, right? You at Legoland? Sierra. Yeah, a few weeks ago, first person. And someone had challenged or said something, "Why do you cover your child's face?" And Sierra said, "Well, because it's not my-- it's-- he's too young to decide if he wants his presence on the internet. And I'm not going to make that choice for him. I had never heard that perspective before. I thought that was-- Well, it's fantastic. So, very interesting. Thank you. Yeah, I have strong opinions on that. This is the first generation of kids to grow-- my son is sick-- to grow up 100% on the internet from birth on. And I see people sharing these really, like, private moments, mostly on Instagram, but, like, people share all sorts of content of their kids. And I can't help but wonder, like, when they are adults, are they going to be unhappy? That is out there. Right. And I just don't-- I don't feel it's my place to make that decision. Well, that's a thing of also, you are a citizen of the internet. And you know the cultures and the courtesies. And a lot of people don't know all of that. I mean, I'm not saying you're a Pollyanna. You know how that world works. And I look at you at things you're doing to say, "Oh, I need to be more like Sierra," or the way she kind of handles that. So, look, I think that's something I don't think about. I don't have children. I mean, my dogs are not going to care if I put my dog on the internet. But all I'm saying is, it made me think about the idea of posting things and the idea of, you know, permission to be able to share something. Well, I think about that a lot, too. Actually, I've got-- we've touched about this on the radio show before, but I've got daughters that are 14 and 11 and 8. Right. Do they have TikTok, do they have Instagram? That's the great question. Yeah. And so, one of the things that's kind of prominent around private school learning, at least, is wait until 8. Wait until 8 years old? 8th grade. Wait until 8th grade. Wait until 8th grade. Okay. Wait until 8th grade. Okay. So, my daughter now has an Instagram page, which is monitored by my wife. But it's like, how do we take this world? We know that the technology is here. We know they're going to be immersed in it. How do we bridge this gap in a controlled way? Yeah. And so, this kind of wait until 8 is like, pick a platform. Let's start trying it out, but it's moderating. It's like driving a car. Yeah. It's like driving a car, right? Yeah. But then you go to a car, but you have to have understanding of like-- Yeah. Because the other option is, when they move out of your house, they've had no experience with this. Now they have free reign. It's kind of like the people we knew who were daughters of Baptist preachers. And went to college. And went to college and lost their minds and lost it. The people around before Christmas, the people around who lost their minds were always the daughters of Baptist school preachers. Yeah. I don't know. And I was lucky to see them that first semester. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're on the prowl. You're on the prowl. I was looking for them. You're down to your Baptist preacher. Oh, fantastic. You're on the prowl every freshman year. Right. Well, I'd still be coming in the high school if I could there. It's got a kid. I kid. That's a kid eating. That's a kid eating. Yeah. That's a Matthew McConaughey. No, that was a burger from the prevention there. Yeah. Well, I thought you were going with the Matthew McConaughey a little bit older, but they always stay the same age. Right. I think it means a little later in my life, revenge on the nerves is very important when I was a teenager. Okay. Yeah. Well, let's move on. Alright, we'll come back from the break. We're, who knows where we're going to talk about. I don't know. See you in a minute. Welcome back to Beyond the Blockchain with Scott Tyndall. Hey folks, welcome back into the Beyond the Blockchain. It's Scott Tyndall here in studio. We got the Johnny Gwynn, we got Philip on the board, we got the Sierra Catalina one in the New Jersey studios. We've been talking about interesting internet stuff and Sierra has a really great kind of thesis and theory on how to protect your children on the internet. She shared this on X. You can go find her there at Sierra Catalina one S.I.E.R.R.A. Catalina one R. One R. One R. No, that's correct it's S-I-E-R-R-A-G-A-A-L-I-N-A, the number one at her, yeah. One. Sorry. I just almost gave you my email address. We are Catalina one. We ain't even trying to give everybody all those details just yet. And it's just, Sierra, tell us a little bit about, we've talked on the show before, I've got some children, you've got a son, you're very interested in protecting your son from the future of the internet. Tell us a little bit about how we can protect our children in this new emerging world we live in. Absolutely. So Mike's on phone with me and he is not independently online yet and I will keep him offline as long as possible but I recently shared a post that was inspired by an ex-space conversation that I was in with a gentleman who catches baits and catches child predators online through social media platforms and he works with various law enforcement agencies and hands them off. But it just really drew my attention back to some things that I already know and am conscious of. So if you are a parent and you have especially teenage children or if your children are online or on social media, which you can, I guess, prevent up until a certain age, the safest way to keep your children safe online is to keep them off social media. However, at some point, you probably won't be able to do that. So there are some things you can do to decrease their vulnerability online. And those things are, number one, make sure their profiles are private, not public. If they have public profiles anywhere and see their stuff and find them and potentially send them messages or engage with them. So make sure their profiles are private and they can only engage with people that follow them and they should also have to approve their followers. You should teach them how to remove metadata from their photos before posting them, but also before sharing them, even with friends, it's just a good habit to have. So metadata is hidden data in the photos that we take. And this might be helpful for some of our adult listeners as well because I recently learned that this is not common knowledge. But when you take pictures on your device, something called metadata is stored, which is usually the time, date and location that the photo was captured in. Now, this is able to be reverse engineered. If you don't remove your metadata and you send me a photo in a text message, I can pull your location or at least the location that the photo was sent from. Some of the social media platforms automatically remove metadata, but not all of them. So it's just a good practice. You can do this with a free metadata remover app. In this one click, you run the pictures through the app before you post it. That's a good habit for everyone to have. We don't need to be given our locations out to free. Next, to go a step beyond that, meet your children how to use eraser tools or blurring tools to remove any personal identifying information or indications of their location from their photos. So like, I don't know, a really loose example would be like standing outside your house. Like, don't let your street signs be visible. Don't let your house member be visible. I shared a picture last week that I thought was funny because I learned that if you meet your door dash people at the door, they still have to take a picture. So I close the screen shot of the photo of me holding a pizza from inside my door dash app. As the driver was like, oh, can I take a picture of my shirt and I post. And before I shared it, and this is just a good practice, I looked at the entire photo. The glass behind me was reflective and I'm like, can you see cars? Can you see license plates? Can you see my street signs? Is my address visible in this screen shot? It seems like a no brainer. But I also really quickly used the magic eraser tool on my phone to remove the numbers of my front door. Just in case, you know? And somebody actually said in the comment section, just so you know, you docked your front door. It's like, no, I didn't. All right. So people know I have a blue door. They can drive around. You can find me based on that for half to deserve it. But so, yeah, that's a good practice, just teach them to like be observant of what is in the pictures that they take. And I would also, if you have school aged children or even a good practice for college kids or just anyone, but being cautious of posting photos that disclose which school they go to. So in sports, jerseys, things like that, the actual school itself is visible, backpacks, shirt, lanyards, any school flag. If you're going to post photos from well-known public places like Starbucks or a recognizable park, the mall, landmarks, encourage your children to share the photo after they've left the place, not in real time. So that they're not giving away their real-time location ever. And there's some other things you can do. Teach your children the dangers of public Wi-Fi, like, sorry, mom and dad, that unlimited data plan. You're going to have to sprint for it because you don't want your kids sending to everybody's Wi-Fi. Not just public Wi-Fi, but you don't need them sending on to Wi-Fi at their friends' offices. You give away a lot of information when you join a Wi-Fi network. And once you join one time, your device and the Wi-Fi network don't ever forget. So every time they're in general proximity to that network, they can connect to it and some personal data can be visible. A couple more things you can do. Encourage your kids to set photo tagging permissions so that they have to approve what they can be tagged in, because their friends might not have the best same practices as we've just learned. So 2020 is a really good way to keep our kids offline, but you can't do some stuff to make sure they're able to protect themselves. I see one of the things we can also do is if someone's child shares something inappropriate online, we should have full freedom to go whip their dad and beat them. That sounds very personal. Maybe so. I'm just saying, if your kid is sharing inappropriate stuff online to minor females, you should be responsible for getting beat by their dad with them in trouble. Do you, though, in the South, do you? I wouldn't be on the airwaves promoting violence. I'm just speculating. Okay. Theoretically. Theoretically. I'll say one thing. I needed to get on TikTok because I need to understand it, and I've got some clients on it. I love TikTok. But I have a burner phone with nothing but TikTok on it, because I do nothing on that phone. That phone is a studio phone. That's where you answer all my messages that send you on TikTok. No. It's the only way that I would ever access TikTok, and with a burner email. It is a very insecure platform. Oh, yeah. Now, I'm... I 100% know that Chinese have all my data. There's not a second of me that doesn't understand all my data. You should overwhelm them with data now, is that? Yeah. I overwhelm them with memes of like robots and... Wait, you don't look at the future... Wait, so you've got TikTok on the same phone that you have your Coinbase account. Your Coinbase app. What are you going to take? I'm on my... Dude, are you gonna take a while for that? Who are you? Nuts. Yeah, probably. Okay. I hope you get that 2FA on. They're way beyond 2FA. They can take my money whenever they want it, basically. Right. So just keep... How are they? They're way beyond 2FA. I'm so low on their prospect class. Well, right. No, I think we've both said this, if the hackers came from me and saw my account, they'd pass it over. It's not worth their time. Yeah. It's not their time. I'm low enough on their priority list. Wait, I don't want to fool me. After the 6% dropped in the last 3 hours, I'm really, you know, and I, you know... 6%. I guess it's a 6%. I got 10 or 12 on some money. Wow. Bitcoin is crashing, people. What I'm saying is that the Chinese want to get after that? Come on. Let's go. Yeah, look, I look, I will trade my meager earnings in crypto for the joy that comes from TikTok. Wow. I love TikTok. Wow. I get so much... No, but because you are a person of the world that you love marketing and you love entertainment, it's the marriage of the two and technology. So I tell everyone this. Obviously, oh, TikTok is just about X, Y, Z. No, TikTok is about your algorithm. Of course. Whatever you watch and you like, you get more of, you know? So if it's things that... It's the reason that I'm open with sharing my data with Netflix or anyone else. You want to give me more shows that I want to watch? Great. I got it. I would love for you to advise me on shows that I like and that I want to watch. Okay. Why am I mad about that? TikTok does the same thing. So it's like, TikTok says, "Oh, you know what? You want more videos on stoicism?" No, I'm like, "Yeah, I'm so excited about stoicism. I can't wait." It's being excited about stoicism is the opposite of stoicism. He said, "Well, again, but that's the whole point." But it's like, "Oh, you want more videos on how to save on your Roth IRA? Like, it will give you more of those." Sierra would have nothing but robot videos on her. Oh, true. TikTok. But this is where I always go when people are like, "Man, TikTok's nothing but a bunch of girls and mikinis." I was like, "That's your algorithm. You're saying something more about you." That is your algorithm, baby, because that is not what I get in my feed. Yeah. I had a moment where my wife was being funny and jumped on me when I was really into X. I was reading, you know, the stuff I read. And I threw it down on the bed funny and she goes, "What were you watching? Something you don't want me to see?" And I shouted to her, and it was like, "It was like altcoin picks." Because I thought you were something like nasty, I'm like, "These are nasty trades." She's like, "Oh, man, you are like, I was like…" Turns out, altcoin picks are more detrimental to your marriage. Oh, altcoin picks really get me excited. Well, it's more detrimental to your marriage than mainstream. Well, my wife, when she married me, I had a lot more money. So it's been a hard eight years and that's not been funny either. You know what? I don't believe she would say that. She would say it's been challenging. The Dr. Lady World War. That's why she's a breadwinner now. She's the Dr. Lady. Yeah. She's Dr. Lady. Yeah. And, you know, I think she'd say, "You know what? He's a Chinese wooden fella, he keeps you on my toes." Well, whatever. Well, it's meant. We're way off. Tonight, it's been. And we even talked about AI, blockchain, and we talked about anything that you know- I'm not doing- Do our listeners care? Do our listeners care? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. You don't want to think. We've got at least seven or eight listeners. My mom listens. I get it. Well, my three children are listening. There you go. I forced them for that. I get seven or eight texts a week. They're like, "Hey, listen to the show. Had no idea what you were talking about." Cool. Yeah. Okay, cool. Today's show is very consumable. How about that? It is very consumable. You know what? Sierra delivered us with a ton of valuable content. Well, all I'm thinking about is the 15 years of social media I've been on and all the metadata I've put on the internet. Ooh. Oh, my gosh. There's no recovering from my metadata. Ooh. It's not a chance. Ooh. All right. Well, we come back on Beyond the Blockchain. We're just going to talk about one day, we're going to talk about it. Yeah. Welcome back to Beyond the Blockchain with Scott Tindall. If folks welcome back into the Beyond the Blockchain, you know, I always find it funny that it says, "Beyond the Blockchain with Scott Tindall." And then I'm like, "And here's Johnny, and here's Philip, and here's Sierra." It's like, I kind of feel like, you know, the squad, we do have a squad, and we have a good time. All right. Don't put me on the thing. I'm flaky. I'll leave the minute you put me on there. That's fair. The new intro. But it's better when you say, "And here's Johnny." Yes. And here's Johnny. Johnny Carson is one of my heroes. Yes, yes. Same here. You know, it's been a good show. We've talked a little bit about a lot about everything. Was it Eric Karnek? Was it Eric Karnek? Oh, the great Karnek. The great Karnek. Was that the guy that was... He's the mysticism that would... Oh, it was... You read... So he puts the envelope to his head, and he reads the answer. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. He says the answer, and then you read the question. Sierra, you're going to have to find this on YouTube. She's like, "I don't even want Johnny Carson to say this." I think this was before even... Your head was down. Oh, of course. No. He was tied in '94. '95. Yeah. Okay. I was but a child. Sierra, this is... I'm sorry, I was sorry. You're going to have to go online to find the great Karnek. And you need to watch his Dolly Parton episode. When Dolly Parton's on Johnny Carson is comedy gold. Sierra, I'm going to give you some mobile knowledge. There is a bridge that runs through north of Mobile County. And it has a technical name. But you know one knows... There's a name after a military guy. General E. Wilson. But nobody knows that. But the technical name is the Dolly Parton Bridge. And... Did it have a two-page bump? Exactly. It's a switching bridge. Yeah. You can imagine why it's called... And even the news calls it that. Even the news. Oh, yeah. Well, they'll be like, "There's a record of Dolly Parton Bridge." What? It's so unprofessional. It's so unprofessional. It's lovely. It's wonderful. But tonight at 9 o'clock, wreck on the Dolly Parton Bridge. So wonderful. So great. They even apologize. They say... No, but they apologize. They apologize. But it's a real thing. They're not going to know if we gave you the common name. Yeah. I mean, they're not going to be the actual name. Can you say the general... E.O. Wilson Bridge? E.O. Wilson is the famous scientist guy. I don't think that's the guy. It's not his bridge? No. I don't know. He is the famous scientist. He's the... He's the anthropologist. He was the anthropologist. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. There's a general... It's a general something bridge. He's a military dude. Yeah. He probably did amazing things. We are belittling his memory to his family. No, we're not. Because Dolly Parton... I'm sorry. We didn't... No, we did not besmirch it. The world is... Dolly Parton is... A world icon. Yes. And she deserves... She knows it exists, by the way. She's made a joke about it. She deserves her recognition of this bridge. Yes. So, Sierra, this bridge is a very large bridge that goes over a lot of wetlands and it goes very high. Two bumps. And then comes very down. Yeah. Two very large bumps. And... I'm not quite sure about that. I'm not quite sure about that. I like Barnard Bridge. Yeah. It's probably because of her wig. Her wig. Yeah. Probably because of the wig. Or her bumps, like a camel on her back. Yeah. Is that what it is? I'm just saying. Oh. Hey, uh... Oh, I'm not gonna go there. It was a Star Trek thing. I'm not gonna go there. Go there? No, no, no, no. It's Star Trek. Well, I saw... I was watching an episode of Deep Space Nine, which is my favorite of all the Star Trek. And there was a part where one of the Ferengi, the Ferengi are the greedy, greedy capitalists. So they're a whole planet of greedy capitalists. Yes. And... Sorry if the Dolly Parton... Never mind. Well, the guy who's the main Ferengi is supposed to die. And what they do is in their planet, if you're famous, you create where your body is frozen and they make blocks of you and they sell the blocks of your body like fractional ownership. Oh, wow. Like collectibles. Yeah. And I was thinking, why does it somebody do that with like humans now? Because Dolly Parton died, I'd buy me some Dolly Parton. I would buy some Dolly Parton squares. Right. Except certain parts would be more expensive than other parts. Just don't ever let it thaw out. There are some... Right. They would freeze dry that. There are certain parts that would have more value than others. Exactly. Okay. Oh my God. Don't you think that might incentivize... Oh, people die and kill them? Yeah. It's like grave robin. Yeah. Well, you think that's great. You've been grave robin since forever. I mean, that's how we found out the Ferengi... Don't look at it now. The Ferengi... That's how we found out the Ferengi... That's how we found out the Ferengi was actually existed was they were grave robin. It was killing. Like really expensive. Oh, okay. If you think you could sell it off for more than it would cost you to... Yeah. You create the market. Yeah. You create the market. This is why Sierra's here on the show because I wasn't thinking that. But now that she says... I didn't know where you were going with it. It is interesting because Star Trek got a lot of things right and a lot of things draws about the future about us saying I have seen some weird collectibles but that would be some collectibles. Yeah. It would be some major... I mean, again... Get to figure out the market place and all of this down to the point if you die of natural causes. Yeah. Maybe you're eligible. Well, the whole thing is the way the Ferengis did it you had to initialize it yourself. So I'm saying you had to start the transaction. I don't think we can say murdered on the air. We have to say unlived. We can say murdered. What? I don't know. I don't know. How do they deliver the news? Oh, yeah. Social media I see now says you have to say unlived or murdered. Oh, you're making things up. I'm tired. People say unlived. I do notice this though, when people say sexually assaulted, they don't have the whole word sexually. Why are they doing that? I think there is... They believe that social media is suppressing those words. Bad words? Like what words? The trigger words. Yeah. They're suppressing triggering words. They're using the at symbol for the at symbol for the at symbol. They figure that out. I wouldn't X figure that out. I mean, of course they can whenever they want, but I don't know. All right. Well, sorry. All I was saying is... Who am I? Am I here to be the administrator of all the tolerance? I don't. I work on the internet and I know nothing of it. I'm not kidding. It's amazing what I don't know. I know... It's all of us. It is. It's like anything else. If I was in the woods and I was a woodsman, you're still in the woods. You're still learning in the woods 40 years after you've been in the woods. And the other thing is it's only going to continue to get a shame. Oh, obligation. Yeah. Like you're never going to be like an expert on it. You're going to just be like an expert for the minute or an expert for... No. I learned to do this one thing. I think I got an idea of what's going on right now. I mean, Sierra brought this thing about this thing with her car called DIMO or DIMO and I was like, "What the heck is this?" And then I look at it. I'm like, "Oh, how can I get you? How can I be a part of it?" You know what I mean? Yeah. It's fascinating. I mean, it's just... I guess the thing I'm saying is I used to get overwhelmed with this show because I do so much research. Mm-hmm. And it would be... I didn't even know what I even read. You know what I'm saying? I read so much. Well, you can... Yeah. And we only have an hour. And it's really... And then also... And we have commercials. I'm also trying to understand like larger things like, what am I talking about, but like I'm still dealing with the idea of the Bitcoin white paper. Yeah. I still read that every once in a while. And I still don't know. I haven't read it. Yeah. But I don't know. So I mean, like that's the one thing everybody knows is Bitcoin. You know what I mean? I mean, I can talk to my grandparents about something on the internet. They know Bitcoin. Well, the good thing and the bad thing about our show is we get one hour and we get to cover a million topics. And we could probably have a 10-hour show every week and still not cover all of the topics. Oh my God. That'd be a terrestrial radio nightmare if we had 10 hours. No, of course. Of course it would. I'm just saying like, we can't possibly do justice to the way that information is moving. To the way that the technology is moving, like technology is moving far faster than whatever our little hour of show can go. Of course. I'm not there. You're right. We just show a little glimpse. You know what we do? Into the overton window of the internet. Yes. And we have a whole lot of fun when we do it. We hope we do. I mean, we all have fun while we're doing it. I just hope somebody's listening and have a good time. I love it. We told it at least four or five. At least at least seven. At least six, seven people listening. So here's probably got a little -- she probably has 70 people listening on X, so that's probably fine. Well, not on X. Oh, but she -- After the fact that she don't get us on X. She ain't going to get us on X. She ain't going to get us on X. She ain't going to talk this whole segment. Wow. But you know what? Say good night, Sierra. Good night, folks. Good night. Good night. See you later. I'll be on the blockchain. [ Laughter ] [MUSIC PLAYING]