[music] Sometimes you might feel trapped between the right hand and the left. That's correct, you are. Because you're living a lie. [music] There's a linear expansion in this direction and the other one. It has infinite length, but it's infinitesimal gear. [music] Time Liners, only one dimension, but you to meet your friends and meet us on the side. [music] Time Liners, infinite extension and felt the redirections. [music] Time Liners! It does. Boy, it creeps up on you and I'm on fire right now. I need a pep-sid. That's what I need. Yeah, I get heartburn pretty bad, man. I know, I know. That's what we suffer from. Conquer the world, but we have a little heartburn. I got an email, a curious email. Let's see if I can find it. Ah, the Cornell Lab of Ornithology emails, man. Okay, was this show related or just? I don't know how they got my email. Okay. So maybe Chris Wood of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology emailed me. Friend, this morning I awoke before dawn, hoping to experience my favorite thing about this time of year. Fall migration. For me, the most magical part is listening to hundreds of birds calling overhead as they fly to their wintering grounds. Most of their calls are made by neotropical warblers, including the Black Bernie and Warbler, returning to their homes in lower altitudes. As I listened, I couldn't stop thinking about the vast number of challenges they face as they travel across the Americas. So true. The reality is that birds need our help during these epic journeys and all year long. So on behalf of the team at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology, I'm asking you to make a gift today. He goes on, he asks for the gift. He explains what the mission is. I think this is because I use their bird call app Merlin. It's just like a Shazam, but for bird calls. So they're asking for money. That sounds amazing. Everybody should download the Merlin app and add to their data set. You just sit there and hit the button when birds are calling or whatever. The bird will call and it will tell you and it will isolate that bird's calls versus multiple birds. If you're in a situation where there are multiple birds, it can isolate each bird call. Just like we have on Zencaster, the audio tracks. It will track each bird. That's phenomenal. Super cool. Yeah, if you like migratory birds and this is in the spirit of what we talked about on the Over the Line, we got to get back to whimsy and we really need to get back to broadcasting about birds and other inane subjects. And that's kind of what this episode is going to be about today. But I wanted to actually promote the Cornell Lab of Ornithology here because I love their product and I think if you can spare a couple of dollars, they do great work. Go download Merlin for yourself and test it out. You'll love it. It's a great program. Very cool. So go help out the Cornell Lab. They're pretty dope. Good. Yeah, I think I actually will download that. You know, we did talk about us both getting into birding more. I think I've probably let the line slack a little bit relative to your activities. But I would like to get into birding a little bit more. Particularly because apparently Texas is part of some sort of like migratory freeway. Oh, no doubt. Well, they can't go over the water. Yeah, right. Maybe some of them do go over the water. I guess so. But I doubt they go over the gulf because it's very windy. Yeah, it's pretty windy place. I'm sure. Yeah, you're in a hot spot and I'm in a hot spot. That's why the whole plan to do this, like migratory bird thing. You know, I wanted to and then, you know what I did, I went to Best Buy and it's $6,000 for a respectable birding camera rig. It's crazy. And I wouldn't even know how to use it. So what separates like, what's in a birding rig? Like, what do you get in here? You need that long lens. You get a decent camera, but you need this like, it looks like a, like an RPG canister. It's like this long camera lens that you got to hold out like you're holding a musket. And these things are like, honestly, it's like two feet long probably. Is there, is there real birding camera rig? And it's meant to get a carb, carbine musket. Yeah, right. Pull that bang out in the hood. Yeah. Go birding in the hood. No, it just seems like a huge hassle and a lot of money. And is it just for optical magnification? Is that what this is for? Is there some special? Yes. Okay. Well, I'm sure that there's more tech going on in it, but apparently these fine crafted lenses and stuff cost a huge amount of money. So it's been a major roadblock, but this is why I thought the Cornell Labs thing was kind of cool to come in because there are other ways that we can support our feathered friends. I think we can support them in many other ways. I just went to the Audubon Society's website. Of course, the national bird organization or bird photography organization. That's right. The homepage of it. Well, I actually, I searched bird photography. So it took me to the photography subsection of the Audubon website. And I am seeing this rig that you're talking about and it is enormous. Yeah, they're enormous. It looks like a mini Hubble telescope. Oh, totally. Yes. Oh, my God. You're right. Okay. Go everybody. Go to Audubon.org/photography. I'm going to get restreamed soon, dude. I think we finally, we need, we show people too many things that we have. We can't do this anywhere. We have to just get a program where we can broadcast a video ourselves. So I'm going to look into that. Yeah. She's holding this cannon. Like you said, like something you imagine a pirate from the 18th century pulls out and telescopes. Yeah. That's totally what it is. That's basically what it is. It's a telescoping, a telescopic lens basically. And because you can't get anywhere near a bird. I don't know if you know this, but you can't get anywhere near a bird to take a photograph. They are not. They are still about it. No. And look, in this woman in this image, she's got this freaking thing that she's sitting in. She has this like, this whole dugout. Yeah, she's stabilizing against a wooden structure. But look at this. I mean the 2023 Audubon Photography Awards, top 100, top 100. We could do this. We could get in that, but we need to- We're probably good, man. This is interesting. There's actually an amateur category. So they do, they have three categories as far as I can see for submitting your images. Amateur, professional, and youth. We could do this, dude. I mean, I feel like youth in birding would be anything under 50. Yeah. Oh, and look at this, all of the cameras are listed. So if you go to the 2023 Audubon Photography Awards, top 100, they list the category, amateur professional youth location, the camera that it was used, and some information behind the shot. That would probably be a good place to get started is just take a look at the cameras that are being used. I just Googled one of them in the telescopic lens. I'm in the photography advice section, and it's just, I really like the article names. How to master, so they have articles on, I guess, photography advice. How to master migrant warbler photography. Seven spring hotspots for warbler photography. They go crazy about these warblers, dude. Five hotspots for photographing puffins, mirrors, ochlets, and more. Yeah, they love the warblers, don't they? Would you be, what kind of, so we have the top 100 list here, and as many as birds in your brain as you know, what would be your, because it seems like some of these guys are warbler photographers, what would be your bird of focus? I think a doc, but I'm not sure how this sounds very, really? Yeah, me too. Dude, I was thinking of Waterbird. They're very cool. They're extremely cool. Another thing, an owl would be great. Yeah, sure. Yeah, but you would have to adjust your, I think that an owl would, yeah, yeah, you're, but you're already on that nocturnal schedule, so maybe that's a less an issue for you. Pop the owl around at 3 a.m. Yeah, but then you've probably got to get more equipment because you're photographing at night, right? You're right. Like, so that's difficult. So, yeah. I think I would start with Docs. I think I would start with Docs. Yeah. I think so. That's a Waterbird, too, right? They are semi-aquatic. Yeah. Okay. They are semi-aquatic. The Roseate Spoonbill, its Latin name is Plata Lea Ayaya. That's good. Very nice. Yeah, the Roseate Spoonbill is one of my favorite birds. They come around here in Florida every now and again, and they have this horrific noise that they make when they take off their flight. It's like, they're really just barely getting out every time, just really struggling. But they're cute. They're cute birds, though. I have to say. And they look delicious. So I think it's, yeah, anyway, thank you, Cornell. T.A.L.E. fully supports the Cornell Lab of Ornithology, I believe. We're not really fans of the academic, but in this case, I think we can safely say that we are. We are fans of the academic. Before we get into the news, two other pieces of not news. First of all, I want to give a big shout out and condolence to Milo Yiannopoulos, who, on Friday in Los Angeles, California, performed an act of sodomy. That is three and a half years ex-gay, the streak finally broken by Milo Yiannopoulos, a self-report. This comes from sodomy-clock at sodomy-clock, which tracks sodomy acts of various people who, I guess, sign up for it, or maybe don't. I'm not sure. How did we not think of that? This is a great, everybody who follows me should instead follow at sodomy-clock. Oh, it's on Twitter? Yeah. Apparently, it was created by Milo in order to track his gay conversion journey, one sodomy-free day at a time, and it seems as though he gave into his lesser urges on the 31st of August. I just pulled it up, and you know how he'd just see followed by, and there's only one person, and it's you. Yeah, it's, he had, he made it 1,300 days exactly before he finally gave into the urge. So if you're out there, it can happen at any time. Incident report, it can happen at any, at any time, you might fuck a guy in the ass. So let's all stay humble and let's all remember. Well, that most recent tweet is just insane. Streak zero days, streak zero days, incident report, patient reported a relapse on Friday in Los Angeles, California. That's tough. Yeah, since January 20th, 2021, oh, you think he was banging on, he was probably banging on whatever that day is where they all stormed the Capitol. Oh, you think he was banging in the Capitol? Now, I don't want to give anybody any libel here, but it's very possible. It's a listen, it's a lifelong journey away from fucking guys in the ass, and Milo, we, listen, we all have faults, and we all stumble at times. And I'm looking forward to you promptly getting back on your journey, I'm not fucking guys in the ass. It's going to be a long road ahead, friend of, so we'll be tracking this. Maybe, yeah, we should be tracking this, but, you know, anytime you're thinking of a six, two, you know, attractive Cuban mail, maybe you, maybe set down the phone and pick up a camera and take a picture of a warbler. Bird instead. No birding. Good birding. Have a good time out there, birding. Yeah. That's a good gay conversion therapy is one of our guy in the ass. Take a picture of a bird instead. That's like the greatest vice. Yeah, and post it on, and post it on your Twitter, your new Twitter account. And everybody knows you thought about fucking a guy in the ass every time a bird picture comes up. Yeah. Yeah. Last piece of not news, Donald Trump, wait, did we go through this? Donald Trump says there are signs of Fidel Castro's father, Justin Trudeau's father being Fidel Castro. Did we go? Feel familiar? Feel familiar? It might have been over the line. Feel like we did. Yeah. It's worth bringing up. Sure. All right. Good. We're here, we're looking to tackle lots of important subjects today. Last week, I believe at the end of the show, we covered how NASA was becoming gay air. Well, this week, there are several astronauts stranded in space. And let's just break down a quick timeline here. In 2014, NASA awarded Boeing an almost $5 billion fixed price contract to develop the star liner, a reusable spacecraft that could carry astronauts and cargo to the ISS. 2017, a couple of years later, the first crewed test flight was scheduled. And I guess it occurred. In 2019, the first unmanned orbital flight test took place, but was considered a partial failure. And Boeing took about $1.6 billion in charges on the program after the flight. In 2020, an investigation took place into those events. And in 2022, the second orbital test flight that was unmanned finally was viewed successful. And therefore, astronauts were selected for the crewed flight on June 16th of 2022. But in 2023, the program was delayed indefinitely. Boeing took a $290 million loss that year and a similar amount of money in losses next year and the following year. And so in 2024, we finally arrived at 2024. The first crewed flight test launched on June 5th of 2024, but experienced thruster malfunctions on its approach to the ISS. And NASA concluded that it was too risky to return the astronauts to Earth aboard the star liner. Now, this is obviously an embarrassment. And Elon Musk appeared in the comments. So this is your Wilder West taste. I included more details in our Wilder West episode that we will record here soon. Elon Musk commented underneath a post from Ashley Vance detailing what I just named out. And he said, "Hardly anyone knows that there was a massive effort to block SpaceX from providing astronaut transport for NASA." How's that for your Wilder West? So now... No, it's... Yeah, this whole story is crazy. Now the legacy system is actively going, "You know what? We don't need your help." And that will be the death knell of the system, don't you agree? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This whole thing is nuts. I mean, this whole saga is really, really crazy. And it gets a little bit crazier, and I'm sure this crept out to you in terms of news. But let's just play this brief audio clip here. So a crew on the ISS are trying to identify the source of a strange noise reported by Boeing's Starliner crew who are currently stranded in space. The beginning of a horror story, and it really only gets worse from here. Thanks. Station Houston on 2 were configured for audio via hardline and CST, if you want to give us a call. Okay. I mean, uh... 5x5, how many? I said, "Okay, I'm gonna put my key to my gut next to speaker." Copy. Hear that? At negative butch, we did not hear anything. All right, butch, that one came through. It was kind of like a pulsing noise almost like a... So that is the sound of probably aliens. Yeah. Absolutely. So the news. Dude, how horrifying is that noise? Dude. I mean, like, just to back up, like, these astronauts were supposed to be up there for nine days, or eight days, or something like that. Yeah, and they've been up there for weeks, right? They've been... Oh, months. They've been up there for three months. They were supposed to be up there for eight or nine days, and they were stuck in this weird... So, okay. And I don't... I can't remember if you covered this, but right now, so now they're caught... A... Well, let's first address the sonar thing. I have no idea what that is. I confess... I have absolutely... I mean, it sounds like sonar, I assume, and not to... That is what they say. And they did release a statement. I'll find the statement, but keep going. And in a twist of irony, our ex-sonar tech is not on this particular show. Well... So, once again, we... He probably wanted to think about how Kamala Harris is going to win again, or something. Yeah, yeah, probably. Anyway. Anyway. But... Yeah, so... I mean, that's what it sounds like, but then again, like... So I don't know, like, what lines could be crossed, but you wouldn't use sonar in space, right? Like, it wouldn't work, I don't think. If you were looking for something that was on the approach. Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, maybe. But I don't even... I still don't think that that would... I don't think sonar would work in space, right? Uh, I mean, even if it would, again, why would you use it? You're not going through an asteroid belt, or anything like what would be the point of... Well, anyway, that aside, I mean, definitely not an expert on it. But yeah, that's the... Are you saying that because it's sound-related? Yes. Also, I believe that would be why, yes. Yeah. Right. So then what the hell is that? I have no... Yeah, I don't know, dude. I'm really... I'm really... Uh, they did release a statement somewhere. Well, I can't exactly find it, but the more important piece of news here is that if you go over to the Patreon, I have included, I mean this for you car, but of course, listeners, you can go into our shop section, or you can go into our collections. If you go into the collections, you go to miscellaneous, and in there, you will find the Apocalypse Bingo card available for your review. And in the Apocalypse Bingo card, I have included several different potentials for alien first contact and invasion as part of our Apocalypse Bingo card. Let me see if I can find the one in question, but there's a bunch. That's the thing is, it's three tiers, I believe that we went through this. Three tiers, and the most extreme tier, are things that maybe probably won't happen. But I'm looking for this. Oh, you're looking for that. Oh, dude. Yeah, go ahead. No, please go ahead. No, no, no, no, because I got a whole thing. I got a whole thing I want to do. So plus seven, fourth dimensional beings influence election outcome. Okay, so we're already setting up, so we're setting up, and here's another plus, another plus seven, politicians abducted by interdimensional beings. God, yes. And then another one, this is a plus three, which is like medium difficulty. Major politician reveals classified ultra terrestrial contacts. And finally, number four, the plus seven for B one, alien planetary invasion. So I have four different alien related bingo card possibilities, and they involve anything from alien subversion to direct alien invasion, and I'm extremely excited, car. I know you want to think that you're doing a thing before you do a thing. Are you excited about the potential that this finally could be aliens? You have to say yes for the purposes of this show. Yeah, well, yes. Say yes. Not only, not only is the answer yes, I'm hoping that we get a bingo exclusively using alien like none of the other stuff happens, it's just aliens that would be really a really great nothing ever happens position to take is someone goes, dude, we literally discovered aliens and you're like, yeah, but that's all that happened. Literally nothing else on my bingo card hit. It was only. Except for aliens. I would be kind of disappointed in that anyway, what was the thing you were going to go off on? Well, I just want to just to to bring attention back to these two poor astronauts, like you imagine being up there you've been up there for three months longer than you wanted to, and I haven't I was I was reading through it a little bit last week, and I've kind of been vaguely keeping track of it off and on over the last few months now. But you're really caught in a very insane place because a well, you're in space, which is insane, you're alone in a capsule, which is insane. And that I know that there is some like dance going on between them and the international space station. So you've got like different geopolitical factions on earth that are kind of vying for things. And then you've got a non state or semi state or whatever you want to call space X involved, like it is just a really, really weird place for too, like probably pretty unassuming astronauts to be at the at the hands of all of these powerful geopolitical and non state organizations on earth. And all you just want to do is come back to earth. And right now, the earliest they are scheduled to come back to earth is February. Is that right? I just saw something that's that is a fact. Oh, no, I just read out September of no, 10th or whatever was the whole other Starliner. Yes. And there's also a debate on on that because NASA, I got to remember exactly how this laid out. But so Boeing wants them to return wanted them to return in the Starliner, NASA is looking at the Starliner and saying this thing is not fit to return. It's going to kill our astronauts and Boeing doesn't want to admit that. So well, Boeing kills everybody else. So I wish. Well, right. Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah. And who knows, but there was a, this was a big contentious thing of getting them onto the International Space Station, then bringing the Starliner back empty because if it comes back and we either way, if it's, if it comes back intact, then people are going to be like, well, why the hell didn't you bring the astronauts back? And if it explodes on the way back, but Boeing is going to look horrible again for the, you know, umpteenth time in the last two years. It's crazy, dude. And if you're Musk, and maybe he is, and I haven't followed it much, but this seems like a golden opportunity to undermine NASA for sure. Yep. For sure. And that's, I mean, that has to be the reason why, if what he's saying is correct. And I tend to believe the guy on this because sounds like regular NASA behavior. The preventing of a different company from helping. I mean, this is like in, you know, as I was saying earlier, is this not like one of the core battles in the Wilder West is the refusal of the legacy system to take the help. Yep. Yep. Yep. A hundred percent. So this is like, while this is not directly related to your life or my life in the sense that we're not astronauts and don't care, um, right, it is one of those like, uh, you know, canaries in the coal matter, you know, an indicator of where things are, how things are playing or what, what, what that, that chess match is looking like between, because right now, it would be a catastrophe for the United States. If they lost two astronauts at this point, I think, I mean, dramatically awful, it would be awful. Yeah. Even I would be upset by that because I like astronauts. I think they're cool. Of course. Yeah, they're cool. Shit. I mean, hell yeah. So yeah, this is a really weird, weird spot to be in where there's a private company being like, yeah, I could, I could help. Yeah. But at the same time, is Boeing just the state? Yeah. I mean, more or less at this point, I mean, they, it is trended that way over time for decades and decades. It's running with a level of inefficiency than only a liberal government could really like. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I, you know, I mean, at this point, I don't know how much of their, like, I don't know how many of their products are really even marketed towards the general public anymore. That's right. Certainly not the starliner. No, no. And I mean, of course, all of their, all of their, their aircraft are either directly from the military or for commercial aviation, which might as well be state run at this point. I mean, you know, that, that's, that whole thing is borked. So you know, what products is Boeing actually sell to you as a consumer personally? It's like, I don't know. I really don't know the extent of their company, but I don't think it's much. I think it's pretty much run on government contracts. Yeah. It has to be at this stage. I only ever hear news about Boeing fucking up either from commercial airliners or space. So it seems to be like, yeah, split between the two there. Yeah. A final thoughts on it on our alien friends up there. I mean, keep an eye on it, man, because it's getting weird and, and yeah, turning it to the Prometheus. Cat guys. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, man, I, I would be, I, you know, I'm praying for a man because that's going to be it. Yeah. Me too. And, and that's what I always had heard. You know, these guys like Michio Kaku and, you know, all these guys who would go on the science channel and they'd be like, if you'll go into space, you'll turn into a noodle, you know, like your arms, you never seen this? The limbs, they lose power. The muscles. They have no strength left. Oh, yeah. Sure. The limbs. Before our eyes. I just, it's a grave injustice car. Yep. Yeah. I find it to be a grave injustice. Couldn't agree more. All right. Wow. We actually have a number of important things to track today here. I want to give a big shout out to the Miami Zoo. So in addition to us being a bird respecting podcast car, you can agree with me here. I believe we're a lizard respecting podcast as well. Is that correct? Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. So the Miami Zoo has announced that it has successfully hatched 71 Texas horned lizards as a part of a pioneering satellite project. The zoo collaborated with the center for conservation and research at the San Antonio Zoo to produce these hatchlings under human care. The horny toad, dude, as it used to be known, now they call it the horned frog or the horned lizard. I always thought the horny toad was the best name for it. This is the official state lizard of Texas where they are currently threatened and protected under the law. It is illegal to even touch them. So Texans stay away from touch. They're very cute, but leave them be. The first of these eggs were laid at the Miami Zoo at the end of June and they have finally begun to hatch at the start of August. And I believe with this news, they have finally finished hatching and they are currently carefully being monitored and fed fruit flies until they're stable to be transported and returned to the wild. When they are fully grown, they are usually three to five inches in length. They normally live in dry grasslands, deserts, and they have scaly skin that absorbs water from the dew and the sand. The Texas horned lizard population has decreased by over 30% in 40 years due to damage of their natural habitats, invasive species, and the proliferation of pesticides. But looks like they're on the come up car. This is something big to celebrate. I think we need more lizard, more indigenous lizards. We need more cool little guys out there, I think. So just another thing to celebrate in an effort of our recapturing of the whimsy of the show. So I'm pretty pumped about it. Me too. Me too. I think this is also something that we can tie into the resurgence of our brand of environmentalism on the right. So this is very exciting. Yeah. I've been trying to sneak in the reframing of the word eco terrorists. I don't know if you've caught this, but it was compiling with Braxton and gnome. And I was like, what is the, we need a word. You know, the left uses like the word pro choice to describe something, which is to some people that, but to other people, pretty reprehensible. I was thinking we need to reframe environmentalism, which is to say the renewable energies crowd, these kinds of folks into terrorists and gnome and I'll give him the credit. He was like, why don't we reuse the word eco terrorists? And I think that's what this is. And I think these eco terrorists, these, uh, solar panel people, how responsible for the destruction of these species are they at, for instance, we know the, the many number of grouse and other landlocked birds as we like to call them, which have been deeply threatened by the expansion of solar panels throughout the country. Just a terrible, terrible awful thing. In our America, we will have more lizards and nuclear power and, um, that will be the true future, I believe that will be our true future, cosine, cosine, powerful, powerful. What kind of news have you been looking at lately? I've got plenty here, but I'm wondering if there's anything that has caught cars, I think. Well, that, that, you know, the big news item that I wanted to bring was the space situation. Um, yeah, I've got a couple things, um, maybe less news and maybe more post, uh, post news. Uh, so if you've got news news, then why don't you continue with that and I'll comment with it pretty. Let's see if I can find one more piece of news news. Uh, this would, this is why, and I'm going to really be getting on this next week when I'm finally back in my own home. We need to get restream. I don't know if you saw the plane crash that occurred in Portland, Oregon. Did you see this? Well, I saw that that it really followed up with it. We got here. I'll send you the, um, a Twitter link in the Zencaster chat to a video posted by Matt Wallace. This is crazy. So I guess this thing basically just fell out of the sky. We're not really sure, but it demolished, uh, a house, one house. It seems like nobody in the homes was killed, but there's like very little information about this, um, currently circulating. Yeah, that's what it seems like. Um, there, there appears to be some controversy about this plane's crash, uh, the, the air traffic control. It seems like made a call to another plane, um, that had, so the air traffic control from what we understand had likely called another plane to follow the plane that crashed, assuming it made a distress call, but there was no distress call from the plane that crashed. And it also looks like the, where the altitude of the plane is it had to either be taking off or landing within two miles of an airport. There is an airport near where this crash happened. So it's likely that this was a failure on part of the traffic pattern, but nothing is being said about this. Some people suspect it was a student pilot. Other people suspect it was a rich dude with very few hours, um, who lost control or that it was a person who was vaxxed in that heart attack. That's the three, that's always got a, yeah, it has to be, um, yeah, it's at the end of the world. It's not fear porn or anything, but we are a plane crash tracking podcast. I thought it was very important that we cover that as a piece of true news, genuine news, but, um, that's the extent of news items that I have. I've got some not news topics also that we don't, we don't need to get to here. We could say for an over the line, but let me hear what you have, some not news that you have. Are you suggesting we end the news segment here? Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but we, so before we do that, can we get the election odds? Sure. Because we are obligated. We're trying to avoid talking about this. We're trying to avoid talking about this. We're going to have some guests on, I believe here soon who will want to talk about it. So we may have to break our rule, but I'm trying to do everything that I can not to talk about this election. It exhausts me. Donald Trump looking good, latest, uh, actually you give me the betting odds. And then Nate Silver just posted some pretty interesting stuff here from 538. Um, let's hear those odds. I got Trump at a debt, even 50 50. So plus 100 or minus 100. However you want to look at, uh, Kamala Harris at plus 108. So Trump and the lead by a little bit, by a little bit now, um, five 38 is one of a number of respectable polling outlets. Now any poll, all polls are ultimately a form of mind control or at the very least advertising. It's how they're used. They're tools, obviously to, to push people to vote in one way or another. Nate Silver is a Democrat has always been a Democrat and his polls are often used by Democrats. Uh, they were used to quite heavy effectiveness during the 2016 campaign and the 2020 campaign to convince people that the Democrats were going to win. So that five 38 had both Hillary and Biden in the lead in one case. They were right. In one case they were wrong. Well, the latest poll, not, uh, I should say it's, it's not really a poll. Um, it pollsters were used to conduct it, but a poll usually will refer to how individual people are going to vote. This was more of a study based on a number of polls. The study that was released has is an electoral college win chance study based on a number of people polled in different states and cities. All of the pollsters are listed out and Nate Silver having released this has been on his Twitter going through, um, a couple of people who he will be using in the future. He, he did in his own post report state that he is suspect of one of the pollsters for the way that they capture data. So he's still actively putting this stuff together. But the electoral college win chance model that he just released hours ago at the day of recording here has Donald Trump at 56.7% to win. And Kamala Harris at 43% to win again, that is based on electoral college pollings. And if you actually do the break down here on how the polls, uh, fit together, again, this is a guy who had Hillary Clinton at 71.4% win chance, which a lot of people will go, that makes him unreliable. I just want to point out if you recall, there were polls that had Hillary at a 92% win chance. So we shouldn't necessarily because he had Hillary in favor say that he's not reliable. In fact, he was willing to kind of risk it more. But if we actually break down the model here, the state in question is Pennsylvania. It seems like this is going to be an election based on these electoral college polls. And you just have to kind of look through, um, how this is going to work. But Pennsylvania is the most competitive state by this study. So car camp, but I'm going to need you to call up some ancestors and some, some pen Dutch here because it seems like they are going to make or break this election. All of the other places, um, have a pretty healthy margin for Trump to win. The Pennsylvania, I believe is a 53% it's the closest, um, Trump victory state. So that is the full outlook that Nate Silver has given us so far. Things are looking good. But of course, Nate Silver is a Democrat. So if he has Trump up at a high number, that could be used as a way to encourage more Democrats to go out to vote. So we don't really want to view the poll as predictive. We want to view it as a snapshot of this exact moment is the most reasonable way to use these polls. So now is he saying or is this indicating that Trump needs to win Pennsylvania? What, yes, what it is indicating is that Trump, the state that Trump should be most heavily focusing on right now is Pennsylvania, Michigan was number two, which I've been saying for a while that that's going to fall towards Trump because of the Muslim vote, which I think by the way, is going to stay home. I don't think they're going to vote for either guy. Um, so yeah, that, and that is the extent of the election news that I have the energy to talk about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's pretty interesting. If there are any other interesting polls, um, that'll be cool. Oh yeah. Sorry. Before we do officially on last piece of news on an episode with Lex Fridman, Donald Trump, he's been doing the podcasting rounds do the, the, the putting yourself out to the exact right crowd is amazing to me. The stark difference between Kamala and Donald Trump, dude. It's crazy. Where is she? I mean, she's she's out there desperately trying to get these votes in certain states. She's doing these conferences and these rallies. He's not getting on the most watched podcasts in America. I just don't understand the strategy from the Harris side. Well, you know, that's actually something that I was thinking about recently. And I just opened my notes app, my TLA notes app, um, and it was something that I wanted to bring up. You know how they say that was it 2008 or 2012 was like the Facebook election or something like that? Yes. That would be the first election where Facebook was a prominent player in the dissemination of information you mean? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Do you, do you think that this is the first, like, I'm going to, I'm going to lump podcast in with Twitter because a lot of them promulgate through, or propagate rather through, uh, through Twitter or through Twitter adjacent means. Do you think this is the first Twitter election? No, um, I think that was 2016, but you think that Twitter was that big for that election? I do, but I think it's still, I think what you're saying is not incorrect. This election feels to me like the first election where Twitter is being fully utilized to its capabilities as a, as a public relations out, maybe that's better because Donald Trump in 2016 was the Twitter dominator. If you recall, this was, he was experimenting very early with Twitter as a means to shit talk people. And now with Elon Musk, you saw his intention, we, we talked about his intentions to create a YouTube slash rumble alternative, a slash Twitch alternative. Oh, you kind of, yeah, you just published it. Oh, it's out that the app is now out on certain devices. Yeah. The beta. Really? Yeah. As of today. That's awesome. The announcement. Well, yes. This is, this is the first election where new multimedia is being properly utilized by at least one side. Actually, I think two sides. I think our, okay, was using it properly too, even though it was a weird usage. I think he gets the idea here. Yeah. Whatever we want to phrase it, that this is starkly, this is different than 2016. I don't know how exactly we want to like mold the language around it, but it's different than 2016. 2020 was the COVID election. I mean, that was the driving thing in that election period. Like everything else took a backseat. And so it's weird to think that for this election in 2024, if you, if you, if you, if you for a moment say that 2016, I guess, I guess 2016 was kind of a Twitter election. But I was going to say just because Obama was the incumbent in 12, you got to go really back to '08 to see a sea change in the way that people, the candidates reach people. Oh, 100%. 100%. You know, I think the Tea Party movement was hugely responsible for changing this because that was the first like online movement. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't remember when the Zuccotti Park protests were, but it feels like that era of time was when people started to realize that social media could be used not just to broadcast, you know, thoughts, but to organize. And it feels like that's, we've, we've reached the apogee of that. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that happened. Yeah, I think that happened essentially after, I could be wrong about this, but I think in response to TARP, the toxic asset relief program, I believe when, when a lot of people got, I think it was '09. Yeah. It was actually not long after that economic collapse. It was already in, I can say it was already in full swing when I was out of, like when I was out of college in 2010. So the most memorable thing about that whole thing was when what's his name, that, that, what is that guy's name, whose dad was jailed for not paying taxes? Oh, Chef. What? Oh, Chef. When Chef goes down there and he is like a two hour video of him just talking to people. Yeah. What a legendary video. Yeah. Oh, man. It is good. But the reason why I bring up the Lex Friedman podcast is because on it, and this won't happen, but it's, I like all of the, I do like all of the dangling of treats in front of our eyes, just a slight hope that it creeps people out is that Donald Trump has announced his plans to release the full Jeffrey Epstein client list. I saw that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He'll take a look at it. He'll take a look at it. Yeah. I think he'll take a look at it and he'll release verbally the names that he needs to release. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. And that is, that is key there. And I really, again, I like the dangling of treats, not because I believe that we'll actually ever be able to get the treat, but because it's because the dangling of the treat freaks out a lot of people in power. And I like that. It's just fun. It's just fun. It's a lot of fun. A lot of good fun. I agree. It's a lot of good fun. Yeah. Maybe I'll release them. And maybe I won't. Maybe I'll put RFK in charge of the investigation into his uncle's obvious killing by the Bush family. Maybe. Maybe I will. It's amazing stuff, dude. Yeah. But that's the news for the day. Let's go into the post news segment. You ready for that? Not sure. I am. All right. I wonder if people are ever going to catch on about the fact that those secondary bumpers do not do not like fancy things meaningful from anything else. Not at all. It's more time-based than anything or field-based, really. It buys us one minute. Yeah. Yeah. It buys us one minute at a time. We slowly fill up the show with more and more bumpers to the point where it's just... It's just 55 straight bumpers and we don't ever even appear on the show. There are a number of people who would say that that was when TLA was at its peak when we actually did have 10 different bumpers per episode. And I kind of wanted to get back to that. I was thinking about a bumper to do for, oh, I can't remember what the segment was. This is terrible airtime. And I was thinking about creating a whole set of new bumpers, but just for one episode. I may not include this part in because I may not want to spoil it, but I imagined gluing you in and doing an episode and possibly getting a guest who was totally unfamiliar with the way the show works. I've been working behind the scenes to try to get a couple of people on and bringing them in and having all like five different bumper segments of things that we have never had before. Oh, man. That would be so good. I just bring them into it. And they're just obnoxious bumpers. And we just treat it very, very seriously. We just dive into the interview peppering it with questions like right after some insane, you know, like two minute bird call bumper. Yeah. And God bless Annie. We've had some interest in some fairly large players wanting to come on TLA. And I just, I pray for them the day that they come on. And I hit the button and it goes, bro, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. RFK animal kills, like different sounds and dying bears. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Chainsaw. Chainsaw and like a whale sonar. You know, see sassy segment and it's just something she said, just these weird segments that don't go anywhere or mean anything just to kind of like confuse somebody because one of the people who wants to come on is Kevin Castley. I think it would be the greatest thing ever to have Kevin Castley on and just moves him with 10 different like segments that we go through that don't have anything to do with anything he wants to talk about. God, that'd be really good. All right, Kevin. This is a cheese segment. We do a second and you me go, what kind of cheese have you had this week? It's cooking, it's in the works. Good. Good, good, good. Are you, have you checked the calendar lately? Yeah. Yeah. You know what, you know what, September means, right? Yeah. I do. You'll be really pleased to know. I am fully prepared this year for the Halloween segment. Okay. I've already planned out all segments. We're looking at a five hour recording and I'm going to do a five hour bonus this year for the people. Is that a Patreon? Patreon, okay. Yeah. Is that going to be like your version? Get the regular five hours which everybody can come to expect and then I'm planning the five hour extra for the Patreon people. That's what I'm planning on. And I got all the segments ready to go, dude. I'm excited. I'm actually prepared this year. That is something to look forward to. I think so. I think so. Yeah. So what's your non-news? What kind of non-news you got? Beloved Russian spy whale. Yes. A vladimir is found dead under mysterious circumstances. I had a local news outfit tweet this and I, you know, took hold of it. A vladimir. Well, a beloved whale believed to have escaped the past life as a Russian spy was found dead over the weekend and what animal rights organizations say were unnatural circumstances. The beluga whose name combines the Norwegian word for whale, hval, and Russian President Vladimir Putin's first name rose to international prominence after he was discovered by fishermen off the coast of Norway in 2019 wearing a camera harness that read equipment St. Petersburg. Theories about his mysterious past sparked headlines in intrigue, but it was his friendly demeanor that won him scores of admirers in the years that followed. Hvaladimir worked his way along the Norwegian coast, frequenting fish farms and actively seeking out human interaction in the process. He was quote very interested in people and responded to hand signals according to nonprofit marine mind. The gentle giant who measured some 13 feet long and weighed about 2,000 pounds even went viral several times for retrieving a kayaker's drop gopro camera playing fetch with a roby ball and playing with an underwater drone. This is, this is a, this is pretty wild. Now I did not read all the way down to the bottom of where I was swimming on the coast of the Atlantic Ocean. I want to get to this, but I want to get to this before the news gets to this story. I was swimming on the Atlantic Ocean when I saw beautiful white whale and I thought this is my Moby dick. I'm going to go out there and Moby dick the hell out of his thing. Yeah, it's a really long article. So, you know, unfortunately I don't really know how he died, but, you know, you can go look it up. He died, well, he was found dead, unfortunately, by whale watchers, who, who, who, who died, from the organization, one whale. So they were in Stavinger, Norway, I guess, on the coast of Stavinger, Norway. And the organization is the one who discovered Valdemir's body. They suspect foul play, possibly from a fisherman. We're not sure though. But yeah, they discovered him dead. And they have his harness now, sad, it's very sad, it's very sad. So rip, rip, rip, Valdemir. So the whole like Russian thing, this is the thing is, I don't know if you knew this, but the whole like, is he a Russian spy thing is not totally unfounded? If you'll recall Russia has a history, in fact, of training sea animals to perform underwater tasks. So does the US does the US? I know. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is a thing back in the Cold War. Yeah. Okay. That's what I remember. There was a program in the 70s. I don't remember. I was just watching a video on YouTube about this. Where they had trained seals, dolphins, whales, which I think the beluga whale counts as a dolphin, but I know I really don't know the difference. And they were training them to guard underwater entrances to naval bases, and to obviously to retrieve like over people overboard and all that, but so, okay, here, I just pulled it up. The Russian Defense Ministry in 2016 paid $25,000 for five bottle-nosed dolphins. Just last year, one of the scientists from the Defense Ministry was presented with an award by the Russian Academy of Sciences. For their work on the use of marine mammals for official purposes, that's what it was said. And in note, congratulated these scientists for their use of combat seals in the past, which might become relevant again, given the increased quote, "terrorist threat." So they are actually, it seems like this was not just a Cold War thing. They are currently using seals and beluga whales as part of security services. And they, if you'll recall, I don't know if you remember this, but the Sochi Olympics, they had deployed the official quote is a number of beluga whales into the Black Sea during the Sochi Olympics. Now, they said that this happened to be a coincidence and that St. Petersburg, in cooperation with the military, was studying the animals for, again, quote, applied purposes. They're very vague about what they're actually using these things for. But there you go. As recently as the Sochi Olympics, they were using whales and seals. There is suspicion that Valdimir is one of the beluga whales that ran away. So it's kind of annoying that they're saying this guy's a Russian spy when it's more likely he's a patriotic defector. Right. Our double agent. Double agent. The whole other chess game going on amongst sea creatures, the, like, between, you know, statecraft, extended. They're playing us as proxies. Yeah. Yes. Oh, man. Imagine that there's like some because if you'll recall that before the Norse arrived in their current, you know, indigenous land, they reported, they were ancient reports of the cave-dwelling peoples. This is going to go off. So just follow this train of thought with me. In Herodotus's histories, he writes, and I was reading it recently. He writes about how the land of hyperborea was inhabited by cave-dwelling men with multiple heads. And he doesn't say this, but it is inferred by his description, psychic abilities. Now, the land of hyperborea could mean a few things. It could mean Iceland, and it could also mean, you know, Finland, Norway, the Scandinavian countries. Hyperborea just means above the Borealis. So it is far beyond to the north. And if there's a possibility that there are psychic cave-dwelling men in this land, is there not a possibility that these psychic cave-dwelling men, if they do still exist, could be directly communicating with these dolphins? Whew. It's a heavy one to drop on me right at the end of an episode. Right at the end, dude. Yeah. I could hear it. I could hear it sloths in my very mind, my worm. My worm was directly connected to the beluga whale, and as I stood over at my nine millimeter pressed against his hole, it said, "Don't, I'm a defector, I'm a refugee, you can't do this." As a Catholic, you have to take me in. And I said, "No," and I shot that fucking thing to death, and I took its skull. Now, that is a story right there. That's a story right there, yeah. That's good. Norwegian fisherman. Give me a break. This was a-- Right. --like a defector who was killed. I think it was killed by a patriotic RFK defending his homeland. Yeah, I said, "You a Russian bastard, you're going back to the hell that you came from." I filled it full of 5, 5, 6, because I'm an American. That's good stuff. Yeah. There you have it. And that's the new-- or not the new. That's not the new. That's not the new. That's not the new's. That's not the new's this week. Good. Good, good, good. We got anything coming up to look forward to? We already covered what happens next month. We don't need to talk about that again. Yeah, the 10th of September, which we're going to have to time the recording of the next episode similarly, because the 10th of September is the debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, which I think, in my mind, in my-- right now, I'm waving my hands by my head, my eyes are closed. I'm much like RFK trying to commune with the marine mammals. In my mind, I see this going very funnily for Donald Trump, very funnily. Yes. I agree. We should take a brief moment, whatever that may mean, to cover this. Especially being that this could be the only time that we're covering this season. I believe if I don't think there's another debate, yeah, I don't think there's another debate. Right. It's pretty late in the game for debates, I think. Being that we are the news, I think we do, despite our general fatigue with the whole thing, I think that this is a unique enough event. I think so. It demands our watchful eye. I don't want to tempt the listeners too much. Listeners, please remember a car, and I do not talk outside of this live recording. Sometimes I just have to tell the car things. I'm going to try to see if Restream will be capable of us watching it. If the news doesn't come out on Wednesday, listeners, and it will come out on Thursday instead, it's because I have convinced Car successfully to watch it with me on Wednesday, because these things only happen at night for some reason. They never happen. Well, I think it's... You know at a reasonable time of the day. Right. But the thing is happening on Tuesday, though, I think. It's happening on Tuesday. It's probably happening on Tuesday at night, so at 9 o'clock, which we're not going to record that. We'll see, if it's capable, and I like how it goes, then maybe we'll do a livestream of it. If not, we'll just cover my thoughts on it. So we'll see how that goes. So future plans. But I'm really committed here to getting us up and capable of sharing video, because I just think we've missed so many opportunities not being able to look at something together live. So I'm experimenting. There will be some hopefully good changes coming to TLE's production format here in the near-fits my plan before the end of the year, at least, to kind of take this to the next level. So we'll see what happens. But yeah. That's the news. I'm excited for that. That's the thing people should be keeping their eye on for next week, is the preparations coming up to the debate. Any leaks about the debate? I am absolutely sure that they're going to be trying to share debate questions with Kamala Harris, if they haven't already. Remember, this is CNN who's hosting the debate. So not even an organization like MSNBC that pretends to be neutral. CNN is a pure Kamala Harris outlet. So it'll be interesting to see what happens there. Yeah. But that's the only news upcoming, I believe. Although I heard there was some puppet news, you know, we like to cover various kinds of puppets on the show, but I'll be keeping my eye out on any puppet news. I think something's going to be happening with that soon. So that's all I have, Kaur. That's the news. Cool. Okay. Well, we'll coordinate that, and we'll get you something next week, and until then, two hands on the wheel. Squaw. Okay.
